such december, everyday activities such as changing his nappy, taking him out of his pram, caused him considerable pain and he was living in filthy conditions. you inflicted significant mental and physical suffering on finley for an extensive period, which was at least 13 days in length and throughout that period, he was suffering mentally and physically. said, you failed to seek any medical assistance or any help from yourfamily, seek any medical assistance or any help from your family, the social worker or the health visitor at any point when it was obvious to you that finley was very seriously injured and unwell. rather, you deliberately lied to all those who could have helped you by saying finley had covid so that no one would come into the house or ask to go near him. and when he died, he delayed calling the ambulance and then lied to the paramedics and doctors about the last hours and days of finley�*s life.

fourth, the monster was committed by the two of you acting together —— the two of you acting together —— the murder was committed... studio: we havejust lost our coverage from derby crown court, mrs justice tipples in her sentencing remarks. we heard more there are about finley boden�*s parents. the judge saying that stephen boden had prior convictions and that shannon marsden was 20 at the time and no prior convictions. let's hear more. in mitigation, it said that neither of you had no intention to kill finley. i cannot be sure that the brutal assaults on finley were premeditated, or that when they happen there was an intention to kill. however in the present context

i do not regard this point as providing any mitigation. this is because it is repeatedly undermined by your abuse of finley and the dreadful cruelty and suffering you deliberately subjected him to over an extensive period of 13 days and which culminated in his death. you are, shannon marsden, also refer to your age in mitigation. i accept at 20 you are less mature than stephen boden, and together with your lack of previous convictions those are mitigating factors which count in your favour. mitigating factors which count in yourfavour. i have also read and taken into account these psychiatric report dated... i am sure you are quite capable of making decisions about finley right up until december 25 which would have saved his life. i am quite sure there is nothing but

your circumstances at that time, or the domestic abuse and violence you are subjected to, that prevented you from doing so. rather you chose to do nothing, which meant that finley suffered and died. neither of you have shown any remorse at all for what you have done. weighing up these factors, the minimum term in your case, stephen boden, will be 29 years. from that you must have deducted the number of days you have a day spent in custody, which i am told is 519 days. please can stephen boden be taken down? weighing up these factors, the minimum term in your case, shannon marsden, will be 27 years. from

that, you must have deducted a number of days you have already spent in custody, which i am told is 519 days. please can shannon marsden be taken down? studio: that is at the end potentially of the comments made by thejudge in the potentially of the comments made by the judge in the case of the sentencing of the parents of finley boden, sentence for his murder. we just heard that his father, stephen boden, who was 28 years old at the time of finley�*s murder in december 2020, has been sentenced to 29 years minus the 519 days he has already been detained for a while is this case has been ongoing. finley boden�*s mother, who was 20 at the time of his murder, has been sentenced to 27 years minus the same 519 days. i am joined by our

correspondent, sanchia berg, who has been following this case and watching the proceedings in the court room. thejudge watching the proceedings in the court room. the judge said the only sentence for murder is life, starting at 15 years, but then taking into account the aggravating factors and the fact that finley boden�*s parents had shown no remorse, we got these final figures of 29 for his father and 27 for his mother. . , , _ mother. that is right, she did say that she considered _ mother. that is right, she did say that she considered mitigating i that she considered mitigating factors, for example, the fact that shannon marsden was very young when this happened, she wasjust shannon marsden was very young when this happened, she was just 20. shannon marsden was very young when this happened, she wasjust 20. she considered that, but she did not appear to think that it made a very significant difference, because the tariff for shannon marsden was only two years than it was for stephen boden. �* .,, two years than it was for stephen boden. �* , ., boden. and during those remarks we heard more about _ boden. and during those remarks we heard more about finley's _ boden. and during those remarks we heard more about finley's parents, l heard more about finley's parents, that stephen boden had 22 prior convictions, he had served prison

terms, both finley's parents is about cannabis from nine, ten years old, that stephen boden abused his partner. that all contributed to the fact that social services were involved in�*s life from a very early age. involved in's life from a very early ace. ~ . ., h, involved in's life from a very early ae.~ ., involved in's life from a very early ace.~ . , age. we heard about both parents early years. _ age. we heard about both parents early years. how _ age. we heard about both parents early years, how they _ age. we heard about both parents early years, how they were - age. we heard about both parents early years, how they were both i early years, how they were both unhappy at home, particularly shannon marsden and how she had some mental health issues. and that they both started using cannabis from a very young age. it all painted a picture, that they wouldn't use the circumstances as mitigating in some way. but these sentences, the tariffs are long and the judge did not greatly consider the mitigation. she has been speaking for the last 45 minutes or so and going into some of the injuries that finley boden suffered, how they must have been caused, and at the level of pain that baby must have lived with as a

result of those injuries. what that baby must have lived with as a result of those injuries.— result of those in'uries. what was strikin: in result of those in'uries. what was striking in the — result of those injuries. what was striking in the judge's _ result of those injuries. what was striking in the judge's comments | result of those injuries. what was - striking in the judge's comments was that it was evident that finley's parents were aware of the impact of the injuries, that shannon marsden had one point her research online for the impact and the causes of sepsis and what could have been done, that a family member of hers had been affected by that. and the judge said that certain in mid december their young son was gravely ill but they did not do anything to get and seek help. they often like to keep paramedics and social workers away from the home. just talk us through what social workers had been trying to do with the family. finley had been taken away from his parents but had been returned to them shortly before his death? , ., ., ., ~ , death? yes, and social workers will t to death? yes, and social workers will try to keep — death? yes, and social workers will try to keep an _ death? yes, and social workers will try to keep an eye _ death? yes, and social workers will try to keep an eye on _ death? yes, and social workers will try to keep an eye on the _ death? yes, and social workers will try to keep an eye on the family - death? yes, and social workers will try to keep an eye on the family by| try to keep an eye on the family by unannounced visits, and so on, but that proved very difficult when the parents would not let them into the

house. as far as i remember, the last attempted visit was on december 23, but the social worker was not allowed in. even members of the parents�* own family, we heard, were not being allowed to see finley, even though some of them had been asking too. even though some of them had been askin: too. . ., �* ., , asking too. sanchia berg “oining us live in the bbc* asking too. sanchia berg “oining us live in the bbc there _ asking too. sanchia berg “oining us live in the bbc there is _ asking too. sanchia berg joining us live in the bbc there is room. - asking too. sanchia berg joining us live in the bbc there is room. this| live in the bbc there is room. this court case has been taking place in derby crown court. our correspondent phil mackie was inside the courtroom for the sentencing remarks, hejoins us now. just walk us through what the last hour or so in particular was like in court room. i the last hour or so in particular was like in court room.- the last hour or so in particular was like in court room. i think it has been _ was like in court room. i think it has been tough _ was like in court room. i think it has been tough for _ was like in court room. i think it has been tough for everybody, l was like in court room. i think it. has been tough for everybody, not 'ust has been tough for everybody, not just today — has been tough for everybody, not just today for sentencing, but critically — just today for sentencing, but critically for anyone involved in this case — critically for anyone involved in this case over the last couple of months — this case over the last couple of months and years. finley died on christmas — months and years. finley died on christmas day 2020, that was two and

a heif— christmas day 2020, that was two and a half years— christmas day 2020, that was two and a half years ago. critically for his family. _ a half years ago. critically for his family. this _ a half years ago. critically for his family, this has been a dramatic period. — family, this has been a dramatic period. but— family, this has been a dramatic period, but let's think about the geordie, — period, but let's think about the geordie, who has been sitting for a dish this— geordie, who has been sitting for a dish this into some absolutely awful evidence _ dish this into some absolutely awful evidence. the criminal trial ended last evidence. the criminal trial ended test month, — evidence. the criminal trial ended last month, eight of those jurors chose _ last month, eight of those jurors chose to— last month, eight of those jurors chose to come back to see stephen bmien— chose to come back to see stephen boden and — chose to come back to see stephen boden and shannon marsden get sentenced today. i think that is quite _ sentenced today. i think that is quite usual these days, particularly where _ quite usual these days, particularly where these emotive cases happen. relatives _ where these emotive cases happen. relatives have been here today as well to _ relatives have been here today as well to see at they too sentenced to prison, _ well to see at they too sentenced to prison, that's what they wanted the side and _ prison, that's what they wanted the side and their impact statements eartier— side and their impact statements earlier on — side and their impact statements earlier on. but i don't think in any situation — earlier on. but i don't think in any situation they were pleased as a result— situation they were pleased as a result of— situation they were pleased as a result of what has happened today. it is result of what has happened today. it is quite _ result of what has happened today. it is quite a — result of what has happened today. it is quite a muted reaction, obviously, from the sentencing. let's _ obviously, from the sentencing. let's chop— obviously, from the sentencing. let's chop my we heard those statements from

finley's _ we heard those statements from finley's family members, that their lives had _ finley's family members, that their lives had been ripped apart, that they shed — lives had been ripped apart, that they shed so many tears, their world has been _ they shed so many tears, their world has been tipped upside down. i would like to— has been tipped upside down. i would like to read _ has been tipped upside down. i would like to read this particular passage, because i think this really -ets passage, because i think this really gets to _ passage, because i think this really gets to the — passage, because i think this really gets to the heart of the story. this was read _ gets to the heart of the story. this was read out on we have of a family member— was read out on we have of a family member by— was read out on we have of a family member by the prosecutor. in it, she said, _ member by the prosecutor. in it, she said. they— member by the prosecutor. in it, she said, they subjected him to the most horrific— said, they subjected him to the most horrific abuse. sentence quotes i was happy— horrific abuse. sentence quotes i was happy when they got him back from care — was happy when they got him back from care, but they had what was happening — from care, but they had what was happening behind closed doors. neither— happening behind closed doors. neither has shown any remorse or sadness, — neither has shown any remorse or sadness, finley should have been in the safest _ sadness, finley should have been in the safest place in life. i remember what a _ the safest place in life. i remember what a lovely little boy he was and will reflect on his infectious smile _ will reflect on his infectious smile i_ will reflect on his infectious smile. i can only describe you both as monsters — smile. i can only describe you both as monsters for what you have done. remember, — as monsters for what you have done. remember, this is a family member of the defendants as well, not just

finley — the defendants as well, not just finley i— the defendants as well, not just finley. i have covered a lot of these — finley. i have covered a lot of these cases over the years, and i think— these cases over the years, and i think this — these cases over the years, and i think this ranks as one of the most horrific _ think this ranks as one of the most horrific this— think this ranks as one of the most horrific. this has got similarities to others— horrific. this has got similarities to others that i have covered, that this was— to others that i have covered, that this was happening during the lockdown and that may be part of the reason _ lockdown and that may be part of the reason ultimately when they carry out the _ reason ultimately when they carry out the safeguarding review that finley _ out the safeguarding review that finley kind of got missed a little bit, finley kind of got missed a little bit. that— finley kind of got missed a little bit, that his killers were able to avoid _ bit, that his killers were able to avoid the — bit, that his killers were able to avoid the proper scrutiny that they should _ avoid the proper scrutiny that they should have been subjected to, and that could _ should have been subjected to, and that could have possibly saved his life. that could have possibly saved his life and — that could have possibly saved his life. and that safeguarding review is already— life. and that safeguarding review is already being carried out, it could — is already being carried out, it could not— is already being carried out, it could not completely take case until the end _ could not completely take case until the end of— could not completely take case until the end of the criminal case. we would _ the end of the criminal case. we would expect that to be published possibly— would expect that to be published possibly later this year. due would expect that to be published possibly later this year.— would expect that to be published possibly later this year. due to the re -aortin possibly later this year. due to the reporting restrictions _ possibly later this year. due to the reporting restrictions in _ possibly later this year. due to the reporting restrictions in court, - reporting restrictions in court, viewers can only see the judge giving her sentencing remarks. we heard during boats of her comments that there was a lack of remorse on the part of the parents, that they often like to keep social workers

and experts away from a young finley, that they lied to paramedics and doctors as well. you would in court when his parents receive a 29 and 27 year term. while they were listening to thejudge's comments, what were their reactions to those comments? hearing back the account of their actions and what they did to their young son. and what was their reaction to the sentencing, if any? their reaction to the sentencing, if an ? . . their reaction to the sentencing, if an ? . , ., their reaction to the sentencing, if an ? ., , ., . their reaction to the sentencing, if an? ., . ., any? there was not much reaction, reall . any? there was not much reaction, really often _ any? there was not much reaction, really. often in _ any? there was not much reaction, really. often in these _ any? there was not much reaction, really. often in these cases, - any? there was not much reaction, really. often in these cases, you i really. often in these cases, you don't _ really. often in these cases, you don't see — really. often in these cases, you don't see much and they probably accept _ don't see much and they probably accept their fate. one of the things thatjustice tipples accept their fate. one of the things that justice tipples said, accept their fate. one of the things thatjustice tipples said, but i think— thatjustice tipples said, but i think this _ thatjustice tipples said, but i think this is something that affected most of us who covered the case. _ affected most of us who covered the case. she _ affected most of us who covered the case, she talked about the facts of his last _ case, she talked about the facts of his last day— case, she talked about the facts of his last day as being terrible to describe — his last day as being terrible to describe and very distressing, the fact that _ describe and very distressing, the fact that he had been badly beaten at least _ fact that he had been badly beaten at least twice. and because they did not seek— at least twice. and because they did not seek any help at all, finley

court _ not seek any help at all, finley court endocarditis, septicaemia and pneumonia — court endocarditis, septicaemia and pneumonia. and if they had let someone — pneumonia. and if they had let someone in, just a simple course of antibiotics— someone in, just a simple course of antibiotics could have saved him, he might— antibiotics could have saved him, he might have — antibiotics could have saved him, he might have made a full recovery and be here _ might have made a full recovery and be here now. his family said he would _ be here now. his family said he would be — be here now. his family said he would be free and a half now, he would _ would be free and a half now, he would only— would be free and a half now, he would only be talking, he would probably— would only be talking, he would probably out of nappies and all of that. _ probably out of nappies and all of that. and — probably out of nappies and all of that, and all of that is gone because _ that, and all of that is gone because his parents did not care enough — because his parents did not care enough and look after him. she said at the _ enough and look after him. she said at the pen— enough and look after him. she said at the pen would have been excruciating at the end, that eating would _ excruciating at the end, that eating would have caused him pain. she said by december23, would have caused him pain. she said by december 23, the less chance they probably— by december 23, the less chance they probably could have done something about— probably could have done something about saving his life, although it was possibly too late by then, it was possibly too late by then, it was obvious that he was dying. she said that _ was obvious that he was dying. she said that the sentence she decided on was _ said that the sentence she decided on was based on notjust their cruelty. — on was based on notjust their cruelty, the repeated offending, the lyinq. _ cruelty, the repeated offending, the tying. but _ cruelty, the repeated offending, the

lying, but also the fact that they failed _ lying, but also the fact that they failed to— lying, but also the fact that they failed to engage. and itjust the unsanitary conditions they were living _ unsanitary conditions they were livinq in— unsanitary conditions they were living in and their excessive cannabis— living in and their excessive cannabis use, which is often a factor— cannabis use, which is often a factor in — cannabis use, which is often a factor in these cases. we cannabis use, which is often a factor in these cases. we heard at the lengths _ factor in these cases. we heard at the lengths the _ factor in these cases. we heard at the lengths the couples _ factor in these cases. we heard at the lengths the couples went - factor in these cases. we heard at the lengths the couples went to l factor in these cases. we heard at| the lengths the couples went to to try to how this abuse from neighbours. we heard from thejudge that one neighbourhood finley cry out on christmas eve. when the abuse happened, one would have inflicted the abuse and at the other would have covered his mouth with their hand. deeply troubling comments. the couple tried their best to hide their abuse, couple tried their best to hide theirabuse, but couple tried their best to hide their abuse, but surely this case would have an impact on the community that they were living in? what impact has this had beyond this family's home? i what impact has this had beyond this family's home?— family's home? i think anybody who knew them in _ family's home? i think anybody who knew them in that _ family's home? i think anybody who knew them in that the _ family's home? i think anybody who knew them in that the wider - knew them in that the wider community would have been affected by it. community would have been affected by it there _ community would have been affected by it. there is clearly a very loving — by it. there is clearly a very loving family with a strong support network _ loving family with a strong support network out there. that is not

always — network out there. that is not always the case when you come to report _ always the case when you come to report on— always the case when you come to report on these types of child abuse cases _ report on these types of child abuse cases in_ report on these types of child abuse cases. in this case, that was there perhaps— cases. in this case, that was there perhaps because of the lockdown restrictions, they were able to get them _ restrictions, they were able to get them one — restrictions, they were able to get them one at arms length than they normally— them one at arms length than they normally would. the safeguarding review _ normally would. the safeguarding review that we know will happen already — review that we know will happen already in — review that we know will happen already in this case, sometimes there _ already in this case, sometimes there is— already in this case, sometimes there is a — already in this case, sometimes there is a lack of criticism, lack of professional curiosity, no authorities are sometimes far too willing _ authorities are sometimes far too willing to — authorities are sometimes far too willing to believe the parents and consider— willing to believe the parents and consider their well being and whatever their faults are that the child itself. i'm sure that will become _ child itself. i'm sure that will become a _ child itself. i'm sure that will become a factor when we get that publication at some stage in the future — publication at some stage in the future. because they were able to hoodwink— future. because they were able to hoodwink a lot of people, they were able to _ hoodwink a lot of people, they were able to persuade people that everything would be fined fine. the family— everything would be fined fine. the family said — everything would be fined fine. the family said in their victim statement that they were really glad when they got finley back with them, because _ when they got finley back with them, because they thought that would be

the right— because they thought that would be the right thing after nine months in