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live from washington, this is bbc news. welcome to viewers on pbs in america, and around the globe. is a deal on the us debt limit close? president biden believes it might be. things are looking good, very optimistic. i hope we will have some clearer evidence tonight. an attack on ukraine describes a medicalfacility, killing at least two people. we will have the latest from our correspondence at the scene. the shooting of an 11—year—old boy in mississippi raises new questions over police practices. aderrien murry had actually called officers for help, only to be shot himself.
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we begin right here in washington d.c. where democrats and republicans are scrambling to close a deal on raising the federal debt limit. there is still no deal in place but as many lawmakers leave for a holiday weekend. president biden has hinted a deal might be not be too far away. with regards to the debt limit, things are looking good, i'm very optimistic. i hope we will have some clearer evidence tonight, before the clock strikes 12, that we have a deal. but it is very close and i am optimistic. so according to the president, we might get the news of a deal in under three hours�* time. a top republican negotiator, patrick mchenry, says he's hopeful a deal will come together before midnight — but significant challenges remain. earlier, the us treasury secretary janet yellen sending this letter to congressional leaders.
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she now says the us has until june 5th to avoid a default. she had previously said june 1st. if republicans and the white house fail to reach a comprimise, the world's largest economy could possibly default on its debt, triggering financial chaos. earlier, i spoke with representative mike waltz, republican congressman from florida, about the possibility of a deal and whether he'd support it. well, i'll have to actually see the legislative text, and i think it'sjust worth reminding everybody that house republicans have passed a bill that does raise the debt ceiling, and does limit spending, save the taxpayer money and put measures in place to actually grow our economy, so we've had a deal on the table for three months. it's a shame president biden, just now, just a week ago, even named negotiators and we're at the edge
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of a crisis. so we will see what the actual deal says, then we will make a decision on how we are going to vote, but i did already vote to raise the debt ceiling with those other measures in place. yes, you voted alongside your republican colleagues. one more question, are you confident speaker of the house kevin mccarthy can get your republican colleagues on board with any agreement that includes some compromises? you already said not all republicans and democrats will be happy with the end agreement. well, you already see folks on both sides of the aisle, whether its work requirements, or demands that we go to just where we were, just one year ago, fiscal year 2022 levels of spending, not �*23, so we will see. i mean, this is really being tightly held right now as they try to finalise a deal. i want to see the actual legislative text, and again, we have seen this before, where we have rhetoric, we have discussion, but the devil is in the details on what we actually put into text and put into law.
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that's what many of us will want to see before we make a decision on how we're going to vote. let's speak about the latest on the debt ceiling negotiations. joining me now is olivia beavers, politico congress reporter. president biden had said we could know in the next few hours whether there is a deal, what have you been hearing about the latest on these negotiations? inaudible. all right. _ negotiations? inaudible. all right. it _ negotiations? inaudible. all right, it looks - negotiations? inaudible. all right, it looks like - negotiations? inaudible. all right, it looks like we i all right, it looks like we don't have sound there on olivia, olivia beavers, olivia, i think your sound is muted... can you hear me now? so sorry about that. i was at the capital earlier today, we were staking out and watching the negotiators walk in and out, they had a very mystic tone. they still sat —— optimistic tone. they still say that there
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are areas they are working on, work requirements is one area they have not been able to have an agreement on, and there is a whole other aspects of this deal. you had my quads in the audio earlier saying he wants to see the text. i have house conservatives, the freedom caucus, saying that they want to deal to review this, but right now what we are here —— hearing trickling out, we aren't happy about. there was one instance of the house for yesterday were conservative congressman, tim budget, had supposedly received a list from leadership about what parts of the agreement were, and house conservatives, freedom caucus members were walking down the stairs and saying they didn't like what they heard. —— tim burchett stop so there is an entire separate whip operation to make sure they can get enough house republicans and democrats to support it, once they come to an agreement with they come to an agreement with the white house.— the white house. interesting. so some of— the white house. interesting. so some of those _ the white house. interesting. so some of those positive - the white house. interesting. i so some of those positive tones we are hearing tonight might be too optimistic. but we have seen some media reports saying that this agreement, or at least the shape of it, would raise the debt limit for two years and federal spending at the same level as 2023. tell us
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more about what that would actually mean?— actually mean? well, at the moment. — actually mean? well, at the moment, there _ actually mean? well, at the moment, there has - actually mean? well, at the moment, there has been i actually mean? well, at the moment, there has been a l moment, there has been a different sort of topline tossed around. i had fiscal year 2022, with the addition of inflation, but basically, both parties are trying to find an area where they can land, democrats are trying to say they are not making as many cuts as republicans are pushing, we don't know what that will apply because you can play with the numbers a little bit, taking here and there. the school year 2022, same thing. house republicans, when they passed their plan, they had a top number of family trillions of dollars of cuts they wanted to see. that is why you are also seeing some conservatives walking out, saying that we're not seeing that same amount of cuts, we're not going to be voting to support it. so what would it take _ voting to support it. so what would it take at _ voting to support it. so what would it take at this - voting to support it. so what would it take at this point, l would it take at this point, reaching a deal that both sides would be sure to vote for? it
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is actually pretty tough to save. i mean, this is a negotiation where you see so much posturing and behind the scenes frustration, i have heard it from republicans and democrats, they are upset that they do not know what is being negotiated, as michael rodd said, the details are really unclear at the moment. people are trying to find out, which leads to a lot of rumours and smoke and mirrors. but democrats, even behind the scenes, my colleague reported this, they are voicing concerns that the white house might be making, in their minds, too strong of a deal, in terms of work environments and spending, but they can't get in to their constituents, so it is all about working with two different parties and their interests colliding, and people not really liking what they might hear out of the plan. but nick henry, one of the negotiators, told us to wait until we see what the text is, because there is a lot of talk
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and it isn't an agreement until we have one. and it isn't an agreement until we have one-— we have one. last question, olivia. we have one. last question, olivia- but _ we have one. last question, olivia. but the _ we have one. last question, olivia. but the president - we have one. last question, | olivia. but the president and the speaker of the house will be keen to sell any agreement, if there is one, as a victory. so who will have the upper hand here? ,, ., ., ., , so who will have the upper hand here? ,, ., , ., here? shoot, that is so tough to sa . here? shoot, that is so tough to say- if _ here? shoot, that is so tough to say- if they _ here? shoot, that is so tough to say. if they are _ here? shoot, that is so tough to say. if they are able - here? shoot, that is so tough to say. if they are able to - to say. if they are able to avoid getting closer to a default, as you said, june five, house republicans traditionally have lost this battle, they have decided to push in the past, you saw it in 2011 and he is past, they have said we want fiscal reforms in addition to the debt ceiling. but they have also faced massive blowback from the voters, because they decided and they were not able to push the reforms they said they would. house republicans that i talk to now say it is different, they are unified, and both battleground republicans but i talk to and the very right—wing people in the very right—wing people in the party say, we are all backing mccarthy on this. we will see if that stays as the pressure starts to grow with
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time. but at the moment, republicans thanks, because they have that plan they have they have that plan they have the upper hand, and the white house thinks they do as well. so it is not my decision to decide, it is how the pole sorted of end up showing it, but republicans seem pretty confident at the moment. olivia beavers, politico _ confident at the moment. olivia beavers, politico plasma - confident at the moment. oliviaj beavers, politico plasma caucus reporter, thank you for showing that sharing your insights with us tonight. that sharing your insights with us tonight-— us tonight. thank you very much. russia' bombardment of ukraine has become an all—too—regular occurrence, with increasingly deadly results. this is a medical clinic in the central city of dnipro, on fire after it was hit by a missile. at least two people died. president zelensky described the attack as "another crime against humanity" and said russia had "chosen the path of evil of its own will." other cities, including kharkiv and the capital kyiv, were also targeted. our ukraine correspondent james waterhouse has travelled to dnipro and sent this report. sirens wail another difficult day
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for ukrainian cities. this time, it's dnipro with the most acute of impacts. a psychiatric clinic on the receiving end of a ballistic missile. after a brief reprieve, russia has resumed its tactic of targeting civilian areas. this is the residual threat that people have to live with — the idea that something like this could happen at any point, in any city. the authorities are sadly well practised in dealing with the consequences of russia's tactics. it's almost a dignified efficiency. these are the signature signs of a ballistic missile. people say the explosion happened before the sirens could react. they're harder to detect and shoot down. the blast area is always vast. we meet yulia, in a queue for aid.
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she shows me the moment her window shattered from the force. translation: this is war. it's not our fault. calm and peaceful civilians suffer every day, mentally. children suffer. well, it's hard. it's just difficult. we're not even in bakhmut. we're far away. nevertheless, we get hit regularly. ukraine has spent another night under russian drones and missiles. almost 50 were shot down, we're told. translation: the thing is, russia's now irritated — especially in recent days, when our air defence is becoming more powerful — and when they become irritated, they send their missiles everywhere. there is a methodical ferociousness to this clean—up. dnipro is, after all, trying to avoid russia's grasp, but moscow has a long reach.
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james waterhouse, bbc news, dnipro. joining me now is rose gottemoeller, the former deputy secretary general of nato. good evening to you. thanks for joining us on the programme tonight. i want to begin with some of the intense fighting we have seen in ukraine in particular around the embattled city of blackwood. —— bakhmut. the wagon a mercenary group is that it has taken control of the city of bakhmut and is pulling out and handing over to russian troops. ukraine says it is still in control and parts of the city. do you think we are seeing a significant shift in the front lines here? actually, the shift to my mind has been in the ukrainian favour, because ukraine has been able to really gain control of some of the key arteries coming into the city of bakhmut, one of the problems they had during this operation over many, many months was that the russians controlled the high ground above the only roads getting into the city.
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ukrainian supply lines were under a critical situation. now russia has been pushed back from those areas, it no longer exercises that kind of control. so in wartime, when you have the lines of communication open, you control the supply lines, you are in a much better, both tactical and i would also argue strategic situation. so i think although the russians have claimed some kind of victory in seizing that shattered city of bakhmut, which they ground down to the ground, they have nevertheless lost, in some sense, this capability to control the high ground around the city. something we also saw this week was raids into southern russia, into belgorod. russia said these are our entire but have been acting and attacking in russia. are you worried that these kind of militias could escalate this conflict even further? �* , escalate this conflict even further?— escalate this conflict even further? �* , , ., further? as i understand it, russia has _ further? as i understand it, russia has actually - further? as i understand it, russia has actually been . russia has actually been accusing the ukrainians of
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direct lee controlling these militias, whoever they are, and in fact they themselves claim can be ukrainians say, they are russian participants who are fighting against the putin regime, and so they are therefore inspired to attack territory inside russia. to be honest with you, i don't know the truth of the situation, it is very murky, but i think what is very murky, but i think what is clear is that the border areas in russia are coming under increased attack. i was reading again today about drone attacks in these areas, close to the russian border, not only that immediate area around belgorod, but in other areas as well. so the border regions of russia are now increasingly under pressure. but russia are now increasingly under pressure.— russia are now increasingly under pressure. but again, what do ou under pressure. but again, what do you see _ under pressure. but again, what do you see here _ under pressure. but again, what do you see here is _ under pressure. but again, what do you see here is the _ do you see here is the potential for an escalation, if russia is seeing increasing pressure directly on its territory?— pressure directly on its territo ? ~ , territory? i think this has been a red _ territory? i think this has been a red line _ territory? i think this has been a red line that - territory? i think this has i been a red line that russia territory? i think this has - been a red line that russia has laid down in the past but i will say that as far as the
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attacks in these border areas are concerned, russia has not overreacted, in my view. what worries me is actions that would affect some of the key strategic sites we saw when the ukrainians attacked, well, they never admitted it but there were attacks, put it this way, on the angles and air base where russian strategic bombers were earlier, late last year and it led to a firm and strong response from the russian federation who sees the implementation of the new treaty —— engels. they took a diplomatic action in that case so i think we have to watch and see what happens when the russians decree or believe that it is a major strategic base of some kind or strategic target of some kind, then they seem to react more strongly. i'm not sure these border skirmishes at “p sure these border skirmishes at up to that. i sure these border skirmishes at up to that-— up to that. i want to take a look now— up to that. i want to take a look now at _ up to that. i want to take a look now at how _ up to that. i want to take a look now at how europe i up to that. i want to take a l look now at how europe and ukraine's allies, also the us,
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of course, are looking at this conflict and we spoke to republican brisbane michael hawkes of florida and i want to play you a clip of what he said earlier. ., , ., , play you a clip of what he said earlier. . , . , ., earlier. has a minimum is going to step up _ earlier. has a minimum is going to step up as — earlier. has a minimum is going to step up as a _ earlier. has a minimum is going to step up as a true _ earlier. has a minimum is going to step up as a true partner, - earlier. has a minimum is going to step up as a true partner, a l to step up as a true partner, a dollar— to step up as a true partner, a dollar for— to step up as a true partner, a dollar for euro type brooch and i think— dollar for euro type brooch and i think you _ dollar for euro type brooch and i think you are going to see other— i think you are going to see other demands that when it comes_ other demands that when it comes to reconstruction and bearing _ comes to reconstruction and bearing the brunt of that cost, if our— bearing the brunt of that cost, if our european partners— and look. — if our european partners— and look, friends and allies could also — look, friends and allies could also have _ look, friends and allies could also have tough conversations and hold — also have tough conversations and hold each other accountable to our— and hold each other accountable to our promises.— to our promises. what do you make of that _ to our promises. what do you make of that statement? - to our promises. what do you make of that statement? i i to our promises. what do you i make of that statement? i think it's much in _ make of that statement? i think it's much in mind, _ make of that statement? i think it's much in mind, to _ make of that statement? i think it's much in mind, to be - it's much in mind, to be honest, with the kind of bipartisan view in the united states that the nato allies have to carry their weight of the defence burden in europe, and as far as i understand it, the european union is already expecting that they will have to carry a significant amount of the burden of ukrainian reconstruction when we get to that point, so i know the congressman was trying to make
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a point about, you know, nato and european union countries being freeloaders, free riders on the united states, but in actual fact i on the united states, but in actualfact i think on the united states, but in actual fact i think there is a very clear recognition in both international institutions, data and the european union, that they have to help bear the burden of this fight and they will have to help bear the burden of reconstruction. but if this war _ burden of reconstruction. but if this war continues on, as we are expecting, and a counteroffensive from ukraine, as we've been discussing for some time and expecting to begin. if this counteroffensive drags on, are you worried about support from the us, in particular, faltering? we've seen some voices on the right wing of the republican party questioning whether this type of aid and support to ukraine is necessary. i of aid and support to ukraine is necessary.— is necessary. i think it will be important _ is necessary. i think it will be important for - is necessary. i think it will be important for the i is necessary. i think it will| be important for the biden administration to continue to press hard on the point that the security of ukraine is about security of europe overall and the health and stability and security of
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europe, both in security but also in economic and political terms. that means a lot for the stability and the health of the us economy. so, of course, there are tough arguments that there are tough arguments that the biden administration has to make and they have been consistent throughout, and i think conveying the importance of this fight for the continuity of prosperity and stability for the united states fell. but those messages will definitely have to keep this come out clear and strong —— the united states itself. we saw president _ the united states itself. we saw president zelensky making a flurry of visits to european capitals, also to the g7 summit, looking to maintain support for ukraine going forward. do you think he achieved that goal? it forward. do you think he achieved that goal? it was very interesting _ achieved that goal? it was very interesting to _ achieved that goal? it was very interesting to me _ achieved that goal? it was very interesting to me how- achieved that goal? it was very interesting to me how cleverly| interesting to me how cleverly done it was. it was not only the g7 but he stopped on the way to talk to the arab league and to meet with the arab league who have been, actually, not all that supportive of ukraine's war effort and have tended to lean in the direction of frusher instead and so, he very cleverly, i think, covered
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a lot of bases on that and i think it did work for ukraine —— russia instead. the middle eastern countries are saying they want to be involved in the peace process and of course if that involves pressure on ukraine, to capitulate in areas they don't want to give ground on the map would be a problem but it is good that i think those arab countries has been involved, as well as the broader g7.— involved, as well as the broader g7. , , broader g7. very interesting. rose gottemoeller, - broader g7. very interesting. rose gottemoeller, thank i broader g7. very interesting. | rose gottemoeller, thank you forjoining us. ml; rose gottemoeller, thank you forjoining us— staying in the us and the state of mississippi, where an officer has been suspended after shooting an 11—year—old boy while responding to a domestic disturbance. the boy's mother says police arrived to the home in response to a domestic disturbance call placed by the child. he was then shot in the chest. the child has since been released from a local hospital. the bbc�*sjess parker has been following that story. according to the family on saturday, the boy was told
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by his mother to call 911 after an ex—partner of hers had shown up at the house and was acting in an irate fashion. police came to the property and the family say an officer called on everyone to leave the house as the boy moved through the property, that's when he was shot in the chest. now, what the family say is that while the 11—year—old boy is back at home, he suffered from a lacerated liver, fractured ribs and a collapsed lung, the officer in question has been put on leave but the family are really saying they want answers, particularly for the release of body cam footage. now, the police department aren't commenting but the mississippi bureau of investigations is looking into the matter and are saying they will handle their findings over to the state's attorney general. jess parker reporting for us. in other news — pope francis cancelled his scheduled meetings on friday due to health issues. the vatican said he's running a fever. the 86—year—old pontiff has been facing health—related challenges in the past few months. he had a serious fever in march and was then diagnosed
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with acute bronchitis. connecticut lawmakers have voted to exonerate 12 people more than 370 years after they were convicted of witchcraft in colonial america. ii of the 12 were hanged after trials that the state senate now acknowledges were a "miscarriage ofjustice". it follows a long—running campaign by descendants to clear the names of those wrongfully accused of being witches. and british cycling is to ban transgender women from taking part in female elite events following a 9—month review. transgender women will now compete with men in what will be known as an open category. voters in turkey will go back to the polls on sunday in a presidential election run—off between the country's long—time authoritarian leader recep tayyip erdogan and his main rival, the secular opposition leader kemal kilicdaroglu. the president held a slim lead in the first round of voting but did not receive more
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than the required 50% majority. both candidates are chasing support from nationalist voters. from istanbul, our senior international correspondent orla guerin reports. all chant. "one nation, one flag, one motherland," they chant. take a look at the fervent support for turkey's strongman leader. recep tayyip erdogan is facing into sunday's second round in a commanding position. cheering and applause. at this cab drivers�* convention in istanbul, they couldn't get enough of him. we meet kasim, a fan of the president's nationalist message and track record in office. "what our president did in 21 years would take others 100 "years," he says.
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"that is why we support him. "may god keep him from harm." "erdogan is everything to me," says aisha. "we couldn't get to hospitals before. "now, we can get around easily. "we have transportation. "we have everything." and what of the president's rival, kemal kilicdaroglu? from him now, less talk of hope and a much harder tone. "i declare," he says, "as soon as i come to power, "i will send all refugees home". that includes more than 3 million syrians. it's a campaign pledge that goes down well here. whoever is turkey's next president, nationalism is already a winner in this election. in kasimpasa, few doubt the outcome.
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president erdogan grew up on the streets of this working class neighbourhood. at the corner shop opposite his old home, this woman tells us he brought freedom for religious conservatives like her. translation: there are police, teachers and civil servants i in headscarves now. god bless brother tayyip. we have hot running water and gas in our homes. there has been a great improvement. praying mantis is coming. but for others, there has been just the opposite. merch and zeinab are students from the lgbtq+ community. they are already banned from holding pride marches and fear worse to come. when you think about maybe five more years of president erdogan in charge in turkey, what is your gut feeling? scared. i'm scared.
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we will still do something and we will still fight, but i don't know how hard they will attack this time. because over these two or three years, our hopes were like, "yes, he will go after these elections. "we can still — we still have a chance." but if he still wins, they will attack us more, they will take our rights more. they will ban many more things. so, what's ahead here if president erdogan wins on sunday, as looks likely? supporters say more development and a stronger turkey. critics say more repression and a darker future. orla guerin, bbc news, istanbul. we will have extensive coverage
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of the presidential run—off in turkey this weekend. do stay tuned to bbc. thanks for watching. hello there. friday was another fine and dry day with high pressure firmly dominating our weather picture and for most of us, there was lots of sunshine around. just a little bit of this fair weather cloud popping up for a time, like here in chorley in lancashire. now, the day's highest temperatures just across the other side of the hills, 23 degrees in north yorkshire — and that's around seven above average in this part of the world for may. bainbridge in north yorkshire, popping up to 23 degrees celsius friday afternoon. and you can see on the satellite picture just how sunny it was just a little bit of cloud across northern england, a bit for northern ireland, a bit for northern scotland. but looking out in the atlantic, we've got a weather front that's set to bring some much thicker cloud in over the next few hours. so, cloudy over across north—western areas of the uk. an odd spit of rain by dawn.
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otherwise, it's dry with clear skies and temperatures about six to eight degrees celsius. if you're heading outside first thing in the morning, saturday morning, yes, you might need a layer or two — it will be a little on the cool side. saturday's forecast then. high pressure staying put for most of us. but this week, weather fronts working into that area of high pressure and so, for scotland, we see the cloud thicken with a little bit of light, patchy rain, followed by sunshine and showers in the afternoon. it will turn cooler — temperatures about 11 to 13 across the far north of scotland. for northern ireland, england and wales, plenty of dry weather and sunshine and it's going to feel warm — high teens to low 20s widely but peaking at around 23 across the spine of the country, through parts of northern england, the midlands and central southern england. southern and eastern scotland should be pleasant enough as well. still holding on to a bit of sunshine here on sunday. —— still holding on to a bit of sunshine here. on sunday, high pressure is still with us but it's probably going to be a little bit more in the way of cloud developing for a time. i think sunny spells, though, coming through that. temperatures just easing
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down for scotland, northern ireland, northern england so, mid—to—high teens here. the warmest weather towards the south—west, where we could see around 23 degrees again. but wherever the may sunshine comes out, i think it's going to feel ok. and it's a similar picture really for bank holiday monday itself. a bit more of a wind blowing for east anglia and south—east england. that could make it feel a little on the cool side first thing in the morning. but once we've got that sunshine coming through again, it should feel ok. and temperatures are going to start to rise in scotland. 21 in glasgow could be one of the warmest places in the country but turning a bit cooler down the eastern side of england. beyond that, deeper into next week, it's sunny and it's set to get warmerfor some temperatures could reach the mid 20s. bye for now.
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