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control of the media. ozcan aker, a retired lawyer of 90, came out to vote for change. translation: in turkey currently there's a dictatorial regime. - i'm voting to return to democracy. first of all, there is nojustice. the president holds executive and legislative powers. this is the biggest mistake. whoever wins will take on a divided country and a broken economy. you are watching bbc news, with all the latest development from turkey after the presidential election
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punter president erdogan claiming victory, as yet not officially announced, but to all intents and purposes, that seems to be the case. we have seen the opposition candidate kemal kilicdaroglu also giving a speech and he was strongly worded but he did not explicitly admit defeat. let's speak to arda tunca. he's a columnist and economist at politikyol. we have talked a lot in recent days and weeks about the turkish economy and weeks about the turkish economy and it has been that hot button issue for the politicians and the daily issue for turks. what is the state of the economy? what is it like on a daily basis, living in turkey? it like on a daily basis, living in turke ? , ., ., ., ., ., turkey? it is hard for a lot of --eole turkey? it is hard for a lot of peeple in _ turkey? it is hard for a lot of people in turkey _ turkey? it is hard for a lot of people in turkey but - turkey? it is hard for a lot of people in turkey but the - turkey? it is hard for a lot of l people in turkey but the result turkey? it is hard for a lot of - people in turkey but the result is interesting. it seems quite interesting. it seems quite interesting. there was a lot of difficulties in the turkish economy and the result is it shows that the
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winner is the incumbent government and incumbent president. but there is a point which should be addressed under firstly is a point which should be addressed underfirstly in rural is a point which should be addressed under firstly in rural areas is a point which should be addressed underfirstly in rural areas people are not aware of what is going on. and the incumbent government and the party, the akp, as a strong organisation based. that organisation based. that organisation based. that organisation based in turkey uses all the tools, all the financial resources of the government and also some associations, private associations linked to the government and people get financial help from the party. this is one point, a crucial point and it was quite a determinant point of the result today. so the crisis, the economic crisis in turkey today, is felt in big cities, in istanbul, ankara and is mere, so the rest of
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the country, rural areas, they are not aware of what's going on because 90% of the media is controlled by the government, by the president. this is one thing. and although the government, the central bank has decreased the interest rate since september 2021, economic activity has not picked up steam in turkey. and also come although the rate of interest is 8.5% today, market rates are quite different. they don't have any correlation with the policy rate thatis any correlation with the policy rate that is used by the central bank, and when you go to the applicant you see 60, 60 5% deposit rates and credit rates in the market. so the correlation between the policy rate and market rates is totally gone. its totally broken. and it's going
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to be very difficult to manage this new economic structure for the government, for the incumbent government. and if the opposition were the winner today, it would be extremely difficult for the opposition leader as well. and i think turkey is going to be in a predicament in the months ahead but the government is going to strive to reach the next election step, which is in march 202a. fix, reach the next election step, which is in march 2024.— is in march 2024. a lot of our viewers around _ is in march 2024. a lot of our viewers around the _ is in march 2024. a lot of our viewers around the world, . is in march 2024. a lot of our- viewers around the world, perhaps if they had visited turkey, lecompte big cities, ankara or istanbul or bodrum where you are, but what is the difference between the state of play in these major cities, these major economic and business hubs, and the turkish heartlands, shall we
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say? ruralareas and the turkish heartlands, shall we say? rural areas that perhaps people don't get to experience and visit. is it a turkey of two halfs? yes. polarisation _ is it a turkey of two halfs? yes. polarisation explains _ is it a turkey of two halfs? yes. polarisation explains two - is it a turkey of two halfs? yes polarisation explains two different parts of turkey, two different faces of turkey. in major cities you have businesses, you have banks, your people connected to modern economy, so they understand what's going on. they look at figures and have access to social media, to alternative media. but in rural areas, to social media, to alternative media. but in ruralareas, in to social media, to alternative media. but in rural areas, in the rest of the country, people don't have access and realities are disguised, they are darkened by the government and the president. they don't see the reality, they don't see the full picture of the economy. so this is their difficulty. and also, if you run an identity politics, you the other party as
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traitors, as the people who support terrorism. and if the opposition is in power, the country is going to just fall apart. and turkey is going to lose even its flag, its sovereignty could if you blame the other party with your media organisation, with your base organisation, with your base organisation, and financially support them, you make people believe that the opposition is a devil. that is what is going on. westerners come to ankara and istanbul, big cities, what they see there is quite a different picture but if you go to anatolia to different parts there, the picture is absolutely different. and this picture absolutely indicates how deep polarisation in turkey is to
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date to arda tunca, for the moment, thank you so much.— thank you so much. viewers can see at the moment _ thank you so much. viewers can see at the moment these _ thank you so much. viewers can see at the moment these pictures - thank you so much. viewers can see at the moment these pictures of - at the moment these pictures of waving to supporters of president erdogan in istanbul until that was where he began supporters from outside the ak party headquarters in the city in istanbul. president recep tayyip erdogan addressing a crowd earlier, about two hours ago, and he spoke to supporters and thank them for their votes, stood on top of that bus and claim the win and began the address by singing to them. we can see the huge numbers of turkish flags, the smoke, the world press gathering with the trucks to the left of your screen. you can see people from a wide range of ages, and we had from our cause fondant in istanbul, and a foster ——
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correspondent. you could hear children laughing and playing in the background. that is the scene from istanbul. i want to bring in another guess whojoined us istanbul. i want to bring in another guess who joined us on istanbul. i want to bring in another guess whojoined us on bbc news. i am nowjoined by gurkan ozturan, media freedom rapid response coordinator from european centre for press and media freedom. when you spoke to us early on the programme, he mentioned about attacks on journalists. what is going on? tell us more. thank you so much. unfortunately _ going on? tell us more. thank you so much. unfortunately today _ going on? tell us more. thank you so much. unfortunately today we - going on? tell us more. thank you so much. unfortunately today we have . much. unfortunately today we have received at least five reports regarding journalists being attacked physically, two quite serious, and the others less intense. nonetheless, there are these violent reports of this is an assault on media freedom and journalists. earlier in may, we have organised a press conference releasing our report based on our discussions with some politicians including the
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governing party in ankara last year, in october, and based on our impressions from this mission visit we concluded caught demands from the new government after may 2023, that we requested releasable imprisoned journalists to stop the systematic harassment of independent media, especially kurdish media, publishing the disinformation law, and a call to the new government to reform the judicial authority's approach to journalists is possibly safety in order to end legal harassment of media. unfortunately this request has not seemed to resonate that much in turkish society at the moment because today we have seen attacks against the opposition and against media and againstjournalists. media and against journalists. sadly, media and againstjournalists. sadly, we anticipate that this is going to be the trend in the coming days. when we look at the rule of law, it is not the position in 170
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first place in the press freedom index, it has fallen down dramatically to 165 out of 180 countries. 0n the freedom on the net, we can also see a significant drop in terms of turkish people's access to information. these are all horrible significant eyes —— signifies and sadly when the 95% immediately send a direct or indirect control of the government, the remaining independent media, however strong it might stand creates a very fragile country in terms of access to information because informed decisions must rely on free information. you because informed decisions must rely on free information.— on free information. you mentioned about the impact _ on free information. you mentioned about the impact on _ on free information. you mentioned about the impact on state _ on free information. you mentioned about the impact on state media. i on free information. you mentioned| about the impact on state media. to give viewers an idea of the difference during the course of this election, in april state media gave president to get around 32.5 hours of coverage, and to mark a much rouleaux around 32 minutes so it is
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very different setup for the opposition —— gave kilicdaroglu 32 minutes. mentioned the new law put in in october which effectively criminalised the spreading of this information, as the government would say, but what are the impacts that going forward post this election, for the opposition wanting to challenge these results or question or challenge the government? will these new laws beat you to try to potentially clamp down? fin these new iaws beat you to try to potentially clamp down?- these new laws beat you to try to potentially clamp down? on the day when the disinformation _ potentially clamp down? on the day when the disinformation law- potentially clamp down? on the day when the disinformation law was - when the disinformation law was voted in the parliament, we were actually in the parliament having a meeting government representative. and ironically, kemal kilicdaroglu became one of the first people to be targeted by the law, even though the governing parties they showed it was only there as a warning and would never be used to threaten
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journalists or citizens with detention or arrest or imprisonment orany detention or arrest or imprisonment or any other kind of hard judicial harassment. despite this reassurance, what we have seen in the last few months is that one journalist has already been taken to court and is currently trying to overturn a decision for a treat he published and then deleted and apologised for. and still the court case is going on. in the meantime, we have seen the governing allowances rallies showing fabricated videos of terrorist leaders showing support for kemal kilicdaroglu via the corrections against these videos have not been at in the same screens or not even in the media. and any kind of statement made by the opposition, if
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it has appeared in the pro—government media, when people are sharing this of social media, the pro—government media presses for corporate clients and get the video removed, thus significantly impacting the circulation of content thatis impacting the circulation of content that is delivering information to voters that might be undecided. this is a huge discrepancy in terms of access to information and access to media and in terms of fairness. we have seen in the past month that it has been a very, very unfair atmosphere, even though the elections might be taking place in a free setting, the unfairness in the whole process has resulted in significant impact on the results. what does this mean, this law, and the wider situation, for press
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freedom in turkey? for the social media companies? people like facebook and twitter, how do they operate and how are they being governed? the operate and how are they being governed?— operate and how are they being coverned? ., ., _, , governed? the social media companies now have representatives _ governed? the social media companies now have representatives in _ governed? the social media companies now have representatives in turkey. i now have representatives in turkey. they had to agree with this law in order to continue operating in the country, in order not to lose their revenues and as a result of the law, they also have to comply with the government's orders and decisions. if it is based on a court order or not, it would not matter, they would have to remove content that the government to seize and fit ought to close as disinformation and they would have to release all kinds of information for all kind of user information for all kind of user information if the government requests this for the reasons of safety, security and order to combat
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this information. this is not only a problem for the turkish society, because as part of this lot there is a clause that is... any person travelling through turkey is to share with the turkish authorities and be stored in ankara for processing. this is a breach of private data of course. and in the meantime, when we remember the cambridge analytica scandal for example, this is growing for yet another huge scandal in the future. even though this might not have been used already, it is just setting the scene for a future catastrophe in terms of democratic processes and in combination with freedom of information.— combination with freedom of information. . ., ., ~ information. gurkan ozturan, thank ou so information. gurkan ozturan, thank you so much _ information. gurkan ozturan, thank you so much for— information. gurkan ozturan, thank you so much for the _ information. gurkan ozturan, thank you so much for the membrane - information. gurkan ozturan, thank you so much for the membrane but| you so much for the membrane but stay with us what to bring you a couple of lines we are seeing into
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the newsroom but brazilian president lula do so but saying that president erdogan can count on brazil to cooperate for peace and in the fight against poverty as well put that we have also seen congratulations coming in from president zelensky of ukraine, saying that turkey can count on ukraine to strengthen ties. and also now, we have waited for this for a while, about two hours ago president ed again declared victory for himself in the election. we have just seen on both the afp and reuters news agencies that the country's election chief has declared president alec and the winner of this run—off vote. —— president erdogan. we have been waiting for the announcement like i said, the election chief in turkey has declared president erdogan the winner. earlierwe
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has declared president erdogan the winner. earlier we saw opposition candidate kemal kilicdaroglu addressing supporters saying that the fight would continue and that it had been the most unfair election. seen that he did not explicitly concede defeat because at that point there had been no official announcement but like i said, the turkish election chief has declared that president erdogan is the winner of this poll. he has beenjoining us throughout our coverage, shayan sardarizadeh from bbc verify. your monitoring what is happening online and on social media but what are you saying, what are people saying? 1truiith saying, what are people saying? with that seech saying, what are people saying? ti that speech coming from mr kilicdaroglu, i'm checking what people are saying online. what supporters of president ed again, it is basically done, the election is over. —— president erdogan. he will
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be president for the next five years which is honestly what has been confirmed but for opposition forces direction at the moment is kind of mixed in the sense that i'm seeing some opposition accounts and activists and influences basically saying that this is over, there's no way to challenge this. there is too much of a gap. and basically we gave it a good shot and we ran president erdogan close but it's now over and we have to accept this bitterly and we have to accept this bitterly and we are disappointed but this is how it's going to be. we will have to deal with another five years of president erdogan. 0n the other hand, there are others who are thinking it has been an unfair election. and they are not citing any specific major events that they say have happened today or whether
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during the first round, they are not saying there has been some massive fraud going on but they are saying the way the election has been fought and battled has been unfair in the sense that they think the president, mr erdogan, has had pretty much all the advantage throughout the campaign and the entire establishment machine has been behind him and supporting him basically at his behest. whereas the opposition has basically not got a fair shot throughout the campaign, both from the media but also from the authorities, from the people in charge of running the election. i am detecting a massive or major call for people to take to the streets or to start challenging the results on a wide scale, on a massive scale
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similar to some of the elections we have seen in the last couple of years where hundreds of thousands of supporters of a losing candidate have basically created a movement online and off—line. i am not detecting much of that at the moment but obviously it is a developing story and narrative so we will see in the next coming hours and days how it develops. find in the next coming hours and days how it develops.— how it develops. and we can 'ust brina how it develops. and we can 'ust bring viewers �* how it develops. and we can 'ust bring viewers the i how it develops. and we can 'ust bring viewers the figure �* how it develops. and we can 'ust bring viewers the figure that h how it develops. and we can just bring viewers the figure that has | bring viewers the figure that has been announced by the election authority. the chairman of the supreme election council in turkey says that president erdogan was elected is the new president with 52.14% of the vote, against the challenger kemal kilicdaroglu. we are seeing a lot of world leaders congratulating president erdogan but
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to what degree do you think the government and president erdogan will use these congratulations, these very public messages from very high profile figures, to reinforce the win and the fact that he has secured another five years in term? it's interesting because the first congratulatory message that came was actually really early and came from the ma of qatar. —— the me. it was really early and at that stage none of us knew what was going on and the poles are just closed we had not got to this stage, the vote had just begun being counted so it was really surprising, the reaction online was fascinating in that sense that at about 5:30pm, the emir of qatar posted this message but then after
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that, by minister viktor 0rban of hungary, and he himself has been widely accused by opposition inside hungary and also by the european union and western governments, of running and authoritarian system in hungary, not too dissimilar to the accusations lodged against president erdogan, minutes later, an hour later, about half past six, he also came in with a congratulatory message on twitter, his official account, to president at the camp so they led the way but as you said with the likes of president and president putin, it will be interesting to see when the messages were similar messages from western leaders start to come in —— the likes of president zelensky. they have obviously had not always straightforward relationship with president erdogan so it will be interesting when they decide to...
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because my assumption is usually thatis because my assumption is usually that is the way it works with these types of messages, when one major western leader somebody like president biden or president macron or chancellor 0laf scholz of germany or chancellor 0laf scholz of germany or prime minister sunak when one of them congratulates president erdogan you would expect the rest to follow. we were talking earlier about the impact of press freedom and attacks and arrests ofjournalists. what impact will that have on the narrative being distributed? it really depends on what happens tonight and tomorrow obviously in the immediate aftermath and i'm seeing videos outside opposition headquarters, angry crowds shouting slogans against mr callister rollo, obviously disappointed and angry. they assumed based on opinion polls
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leading up to the election and also the state of the economy and civil liberties, the perceived disappointment at president erdogan in the last couple of years and the way he has handled the economy, they assumed this was their best shot at defeating him. 0bviously now it seems like they have lost the election so i am seeing just coming in right now videos angry supporters of the opposition outside the headquarters. but in terms of what is going to happen to journalists and particularly in terms of online platforms in the way the turkish government handles criticism online, i'm not expecting much to change. since 2016, when the coup obviously happened in turkey, president at again has been pretty consistent in the way he has tried to be, from his
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perspective, on the front foot against any type of criticism, be it online or off—line but particularly online. the turkish government leads in terms of governments around the world lodge request on online platforms were taken down vertical content. we platforms were taken down vertical content. ~ ., ., ., ., ., content. we are going to have to take a break _ content. we are going to have to take a break for _ content. we are going to have to take a break for a _ content. we are going to have to take a break for a few _ content. we are going to have to take a break for a few moments | content. we are going to have to i take a break for a few moments but shayan sardarizadeh, thank you so much. you are watching bbc news, i am gareth barlow looking at pictures from anchor as president ed is announced the winner of the election. —— president erdogan. hello, the south—west of the uk has seen some of the highest temperatures today. further north, many spots have been a bit cooler and for some there has been a bit of cloud around, this was earlier in whitby. through the week ahead, it
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will be largely dry but while there will be largely dry but while there will be largely dry but while there will be some spells of warm sunshine, there will also be quite a brisk and chilly wind in places. it's going to be quite breezy across southern and eastern parts through the night, also in the far north of scotland but in between the winds will be lighter, is clear spells, the odd mr patch likely and more low cloud rolling in from the north sea into parts of eastern england. it's possible that some sheltered spot in scotland might get all the way down to freezing, certainly a chilly night across the northern part of the country. on monday, high pressure firmly in charge but the isobars are squeezing together in the north and the south so that shows we will have some quite brisk winds, blowing in off the chilly waters of the sea, making it feel a little bit cooler. certainly quite a lot of cloud in the east of england first thing, much of it retreating back to the coast. the far north of scotland staying cloudy. but elsewhere, a lot of sunshine and
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where we have the lightest winds, parts of north—west england, northern ireland, south of scotland, that's when we will have the highest temperatures come up to 21 degrees, compared tojust14 in temperatures come up to 21 degrees, compared tojust 14 in norwich, 17 in london, and certainly a cooler feel in the far north of scotland. wherever you are, regardless of the feel of the weather, if you have sent an overhead, that sun is strong at this time of year so uv levels are likely to be high. looking ahead to tuesday, we see another area of cloud rolling in from the north sea which could plague eastern england for a time, the far north of scotland likely to stay cloudy in the northern isles particular but elsewhere a lot of sunshine, higher temperature is in the west, and glasgow could be the warmest spot at around 24 degrees. heading deeper into the week, i pretty still with us, the centre of it might slip a bit further north—west of us, still allowing this quite chilly breeze into some eastern and southern parts. highest temperatures likely to be across the west of the uk, up
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to be across the west of the uk, up to around 25 or 26 degrees the best of any sunshine. that is all from me. goodbye for now.
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this is bbc ne this ws. i'm anna foster live in istanbul. supporters of recep erdogan celebrate in the streets as he declares victory in a turkish presidential run off against kemal kilicdaroglu. i would like to thank each and every member of our nation who has once again given us the responsibility of
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governing the country for the next five years.

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