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aggression against our unprovoked aggression against our country _ unprovoked aggression against our country. he 6: unprovoked aggression against our count . he s, s, ~ , unprovoked aggression against our country- he— country. he a wake-up call, a sign that this war _ country. he a wake-up call, a sign that this war that _ country. he a wake-up call, a sign that this war that many _ country. he a wake-up call, a sign that this war that many here - country. he a wake-up call, a sign that this war that many here still l that this war that many here still perceived — that this war that many here still perceived as _ that this war that many here still perceived as being _ that this war that many here still perceived as being far— that this war that many here still perceived as being far away - that this war that many here still perceived as being far away is i perceived as being far away is coming — perceived as being far away is coming much _ perceived as being far away is coming much closer— perceived as being far away is coming much closer to - perceived as being far away is coming much closer to home. kyiv denies it was behind a drone attack on moscow. it's the first time the city has been targeted by multiple drones since russia invaded of ukraine. president putin says its an attempt to intimidate russians. we'll assess what — and who — is behind the attacks. also in the programme... ai could lead to the extinction of humanity. that's the stark warning from experts, demanding it be treated as a global priority. others say the warning is overblown hype. so who's right? we'll debate the pros and cons of artificial intelligence. did covid really escape from a lab?
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a former top chinese scientist says it can't be ruled out. but with the question mired in politics and diplomacy will we ever find out what happened? and what do you value more at work? the pay or the perks? amazon offers to let staff work in term time only to help with childcare. critics say it's trying to fend off the threat from unions. more on those stories for you a little later. he moscow has been targeted by multiple drones in the biggest such attack the biggest such attack since the invasion of ukraine. officials said eight drones had reached the russian capital causing some damage, but most had been shot down. ukraine has denied any involvement. russia's president vladimir putin said the drones were aimed at "civilian targets" and that russia "reserves the right to take the harshest possible measures" against kyiv. our russia editor steve rosenberg heard the explosions and sent this report.
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russian television says this is the moment that moscow came under attack. the bbc has not independently verified the images russian tv showed. but from early morning, people in and around the russian capital did report hearing explosions. i heard them, too. at home my windows shook from the force of the blasts. russia's defence ministry accused ukraine of carrying out the attack but said that russia's military had downed all the drones. ukraine has denied having anything to do with this. president putin clearly doesn't believe that. translation: the kyiv regime has l chosen the path of scaring russia | and russian citizens by launching strikes on residential buildings. this is a clear sign of its terrorist activity. as they flew towards moscow, the drones sparked disbelief. "look at that," a man says.
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"it's right above our house!" one of the drones crashed into a high—rise apartment block. another flew into this residential building. here is part of it on the ground. the explosives failed to detonate. the area was cordoned off and emergency services removed it. among local residents, the sense of shock is palpable. "we are all on edge," marat says. "i don't know what we should do about it." "i fear for my life and the lives of my loved ones," says yelena. "things are not as calm and stable as we have been told." the moscow authorities say there was minor damage, no serious injuries, and the situation is under control. but for muscovites, this drone attack is a wake—up call, a sign that this war, that many here still perceive as being far away, is coming
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much closer to home. that feeling has been growing since these explosions over the kremlin earlier this month — an apparent drone attack. and just days ago, a large—scale cross—border incursion from ukraine into russian territory was another embarrassment for the russian authorities and a sign of growing insecurity. but no sign of any political u—turn. after this morning's drone attack, the message from the kremlin is clear — what it calls the special military operation in ukraine will continue. meanwhile, russian forces have carried out their third aerial more from stephenjust more from stephen just a moment, more from stephenjust a moment, but sunak russian forces have carried out their third aerial ——russian forces have carried out their third aerial bombardment of the ukrainian capital, kyiv, in 2a hours. these are the latest pictures coming in to us from kyiv. one person was killed
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in what was the seventeeth attack on the capital since the start of may. ukraine claims it shot down 29 of 31 drones, mainly over kyiv. so, how surprising was it — for moscow and kyiv — our russia editor steve rosenberg and diplomatic correspondent james landale have been following the development of the story from opposite sides well, keep in mind that in russia, the kremlin controls the media and the kremlin controls the media and the messaging, most importantly commit controls television, which is so powerful in shaping public opinion here. now, the message the kremlin has put out today is that this attack proves that the kremlin was right to start the so—called special military operation in ukraine. i expect that the state media here will push that message and many russians will accept it. butjust look and many russians will accept it. but just look at what has been happening here in the last month alone, explosions over the kremlin, bombs on the railways, drone attacks on russian regions bordering ukraine and intensive shelling, and now the attack on moscow. none of this was
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happening before vladimir putin launched a full—scale invasion of ukraine. and i wonder whether if this continues whether more russians will connect the dots and conclude that it was the decision to invade ukraine which is the reason why the lives are now more insecure. a, senior official in the government here _ senior official in the government here said — senior official in the government here said we have nothing directly to do— here said we have nothing directly to do with — here said we have nothing directly to do with it, which leaves open a wealth_ to do with it, which leaves open a wealth of— to do with it, which leaves open a wealth of possibilities. what has been _ wealth of possibilities. what has been striking here has been how willing _ been striking here has been how willing people have been publicly expressing grim satisfaction at the events— expressing grim satisfaction at the events in— expressing grim satisfaction at the events in moscow, when advisers said that he _ events in moscow, when advisers said that he was— events in moscow, when advisers said that he was watching events with pleasure — that he was watching events with pleasure. a spokesman for the air force _ pleasure. a spokesman for the air force put — pleasure. a spokesman for the air force put on social media very simply. — force put on social media very simply, rejoiced. there are no complaints here that people in moscow — complaints here that people in moscow are just getting a taste of what nightly life is like air in the capital — what nightly life is like air in the capital. now, there are clearly risks— capital. now, there are clearly risks for— capital. now, there are clearly risks for kyiv in this. particularly
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if western— risks for kyiv in this. particularly if western allies start fearing incidents like this might escalate this conflict, but the foreign secretary was asked about this when he was _ secretary was asked about this when he was on _ secretary was asked about this when he was on a — secretary was asked about this when he was on a visit to estonia and he didn't— he was on a visit to estonia and he didn't seem — he was on a visit to estonia and he didn't seem unduly concerned, saying that ukraine had every right to project — that ukraine had every right to project for us outside of its borders _ project for us outside of its borders. i think people here will agree _ borders. i think people here will agree with that because what they would _ agree with that because what they would view as a small attack on moscow. — would view as a small attack on moscow, they would say is not comparable to the blood he onslaught that the _ comparable to the blood he onslaught that the city has endured now for week— that the city has endured now for week after— that the city has endured now for week after week. our correspondentjames our correspondent james landau there for our correspondentjames landau there for kyiv. now with us is andrew d'anieri, assistant director with the atlantic council's eurasia center thank you for being with us. what do you make of that response from russia and from moscow tonight? thank you for having me. i think it really is stunning watching the commons from vladimir putin himself. i mean him if we have learned anything over the last 15 months of this where it is that when put an and the kremlin feel threatened, put
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inissues and the kremlin feel threatened, put in issues two threats. one, nuclear threats, and number two, he makes comments about terrorism, whatever they may be. it is really start having that package with your correspondence in moscow and in kyiv and really the terrorism that is going on his russian strakes over the past year plus daily, weekly in kyiv and in dozens of cities across ukraine. i think it is absolutely right to say that russians are getting even more and more insecure, really, in their homes. and that wasn't the case before putin began his full—scale invasion of ukraine. russians now are poor. they are more in danger and they are more likely, especially men, to be draughted to be cannon fodder in places in eastern and southern ukraine. i want to come onto — eastern and southern ukraine. i want to come onto some _ eastern and southern ukraine. i want to come onto some of— eastern and southern ukraine. i want to come onto some of those - eastern and southern ukraine. i want to come onto some of those targetsl to come onto some of those targets injust a to come onto some of those targets in just a second and what that tells us about these strikes. first of all coming to talk there about what the response would ordinarily be from the kremlin. in this case, no
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mention of nuclear retaliation. how much can be read into that? it is very notable. — much can be read into that? it is very notable, really. _ much can be read into that? it 3 very notable, really. and i think it kind of shows us or maybe suggests that the pressure is rising in moscow that really, you know, over the past week or so, the kremlin has launched its largest drone strikes and in response, we see these drone attacks on moscow, so putin is losing a little bit of headroom with which to escalate. i don't think he wants to use news, but there's not a whole lot of other conventional weapons that he can use. so he omitted the typical nuclear threat there because the pressure is rising and if he keeps talking about it, some folks in the military establishment in moscow will begin asking questions. the establishment in moscow will begin asking questions.— asking questions. the springs that were very close — asking questions. the springs that were very close to _ asking questions. the springs that were very close to home _ asking questions. the springs that were very close to home for- asking questions. the springs that were very close to home for whatl asking questions. the springs that i were very close to home for what we believe were the targets of these drones. they were the homes of
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russian business, political and cultural leaders. if anyone is going to affect change in russia, it is those people, not ordinary russians. it remains to be seen, i think, exactly what the targets were. if you look at the map of these drones as they flew into moscow, the ones that were shot down where albert the more northern northwestern part of the city and the ones that hit residential buildings where in the southwest. so it's possible that these drones weren't necessarily to hit the residential buildings that you mentioned there of the political and business elite. if they were, it is absolutely a stark wake—up call, and i think there is a psychological here as well that the message may be to some of these elites that we know where you live, we know where you are, and you are not safe either. ukraine denies any involvement, strenuously denies any involvement. so clearly there are questions about who or what is behind this. of
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course, there is speculation that this could be a false flag designed to win support for that were in russia at home. what do you read into this? who is responsible? it is still hard to — into this? who is responsible? it is still hard to tell. _ into this? who is responsible? it 3 still hard to tell. it is only today that we learned about these attacks. so i think it is too early to tell. but there certainly does fit into ukraine maintaining some strategic ambiguity when these attacks do happen. they haven't claimed responsibility for similar incursions are strikes on russian military equipment or in places like belgrade and southern russia. for moscow, the idea of a false flag is a really drastic strap for the coming to take on the one that we haven't seen in many, many years and i think would suggest a much higher level of desperation, which i don't think we are there quite yet. andrew, has always get too happy
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with us. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. now to have a look at other strays making headlines today. around 200 people have gathered around the oxford union to... professor has said she is very determined for the talk to go ahead despite some students responding angrily to her invitation to the event. the talk was interrupted by two trends are who were removed by security. the british retail consortium says the rate of price rises at uk supermarkets hit a new high in the air to me. that is due in part to coffee and chocolate. it says the overall rate of inflation across restraints reached 9%, the price is very fresh food have fallen slightly. workers at the uk homeless charity will begin a month—long strike today in a dispute over pay. the innate union said workers are
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taking a stand following the offer of two into quarter percent pay rise while they say they cannot afford to meet the union's demands and called the strike unprecedented and disproportionate. more on those stories on the website. you're live with bbc news. now we are looking artificial intelligence, specifically the warning that it could lead to the extinction of humans. many top experts have signed a statement warning of the risks of ai. so let's have a look at what they are whining about. they want to mitigate the risk of extinction from al, it should be a global priority. alongside other societal scale risks such as pandemics nuclear war. the group of leading economies to the eu and us have all been holding meetings trying to work out how to tackle the challenges. let's speak now to stephanie, technology ethics researcher. it is good to see you. there is a warning and it is a pretty significant warning. is this
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scaremongering or should we be worried? i scaremongering or should we be worried? ~' ., , , worried? i think it would be helpful if the peeple _ worried? i think it would be helpful if the people who _ worried? i think it would be helpful if the people who signed _ worried? i think it would be helpful if the people who signed these - if the people who signed these letters did a betterjob of... exactly how they think and i risks are equal to the risks of nuclear war or a pandemic. these are pretty significant statements. we're not really seeing the connecting of the dots between statement and statement b. the first of all we need to see that. second, they aren't talking about what they are doing to stop these risks from manifesting. so they are all still building this technology. they are not saying they are going to stop building it. they are going to stop building it. they are building it, and they are still seeking investment to, and this investment is in to the tune of multiple billions of dollars. so that's not really a mitigation strategy, is it?— that's not really a mitigation strategy, is it? that's not really a mitigation strate: , is it? , . ., , ., strategy, is it? the signatories on this list are _ strategy, is it? the signatories on this list are the _ strategy, is it? the signatories on this list are the who's _ strategy, is it? the signatories on this list are the who's who - strategy, is it? the signatories on this list are the who's who of - strategy, is it? the signatories on this list are the who's who of al. | this list are the who's who of ai. they are significant players. the people who are building a lot of
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this technology. we should heed the warnings, should we? melt. this technology. we should heed the warnings, should we?— warnings, should we? well, without that make serious _ warnings, should we? well, without that make serious people, - warnings, should we? well, without that make serious people, and - warnings, should we? well, without that make serious people, and i - that make serious people, and i listen to them, there are a lot of people who are not on that list were also very serious thinkers who are running a very different risks, not the sort of science fiction risks, but the risks that are happening with al right now, and as i risks of discrimination, risks of misinformation and disinformation, risks to interference in our elections, and it is interesting because if we don't talk about the risks that are happening right now than they can carry on making money and they can carry on having us all think about things that may or may not happen in the future. i would like to have us thinking about both. let's think about the existential long—term risks that are possible and let's think about what is happening right now regarding people right now. happening right now regarding people riaht now. . happening right now regarding people riaht now. , . , , ., right now. there is a suggestion, isn't there. _ right now. there is a suggestion, isn't there, that _ right now. there is a suggestion, isn't there, that we _ right now. there is a suggestion, isn't there, that we are _ right now. there is a suggestion, isn't there, that we are perhaps l isn't there, that we are perhaps distracted by warnings such as these
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and we take ri off ball when we talk about immediate risks posed by this technology. that's right. and that's very interesting that we are seeing the european union getting ready to vote next month injune and the vote next month in june and the evenin: vote next month in june and the evening that _ vote next month injune and true: evening that make the first landmark piece of legislation regulating artificial intelligence. anyone who wants to see, educate yourself, very, very interesting, and it is governing the way we think about al risks for the next several years, including companies that are outside the eu. ~ . ., , including companies that are outside the eu. ~ _, , ., ., ., the eu. when it comes to regulation, there is always _ the eu. when it comes to regulation, there is always the _ the eu. when it comes to regulation, there is always the familiar _ there is always the familiar arguments, that if we regulate too tightly too quickly, it stifles innovation and we don't harness the good things that this technology can do. i wonder, good things that this technology can do. iwonder, what good things that this technology can do. i wonder, what should good things that this technology can do. iwonder, what should be good things that this technology can do. i wonder, what should be the focus of this regulation? where should we target specifically to make sure that those perceived harms
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do not come to fruition? and yet we can still all benefit from some of the good things that al can deliver. it makes me think a lot of... which is first do no harm. so we need to think about civil liberties, privacy and human rights, regardless of whether or not we are talking about al or any other technology. in some ways, ai is very new, but in other ways, ai is very new, but in other ways, it is and, and the threats it poses are the same sorts of threats we see everywhere. that's why you see in the united states the chief regulator there of the ftc, she is not calling for new regulation. she thinks that we can use existing laws and regulations right now to regulate ai. and regulations right now to regulate al. the eu is taking a different approach. it's already using its existing toolset and it thinks we need new laws, new regulations, so, really, the most innovative... the regulations, so, really, the most innovative... th—
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innovative... the stephanie, it is very good _ innovative... the stephanie, it is very good to _ innovative... the stephanie, it is very good to get _ innovative. .. the stephanie, it is very good to get your— innovative... the stephanie, it is very good to get your facts - innovative... the stephanie, it is very good to get your facts and l innovative... the stephanie, it is very good to get your facts and a j very good to get your facts and a fascinating area, one that we will talk about so much more. for now, thank you. the possibility that the covid—i9 virus leaked from a laboratory should not be ruled out, a former top chinese government scientist has told bbc news. george gao, who was director of the chinese centre for disease control for much of the pandemic, has told a new bbc podcast that the question of the virus's origin remains open. many scientists still believe that the virus is most likely to have passed naturally from animals to humans. but others argue that an accidental leak can't be ruled out. john sudworth — was our correspondent in china until he was forced to leave in 2021 — he's sent this report from new york. ever since the world got its first glimpse of the deadly disease circulating in wuhan, china has dismissed the theory that covid might have leaked from a lab
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known to have been experimenting with coronaviruses, as a lie. but now, one of china's most senior scientists seems far less forthright when i ask him about that possibility. you know, i haven't seen anything. you know, a lot of people have some suspicions, but i haven't seen anything. but nor can you rule it out? for science you have to be open—minded. that means everything is possible. don't rule out anything. don't rule out anything, he says. but the lab leak theory was ruled out. perhaps its association with this man helped cast it as a conspiracy theory. have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the wuhan institute of virology was the origin of this virus? yes, i have. as did the claims from some western scientists of overwhelming evidence that the virus, which started in bats, passed naturally to humans,
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perhaps via other animals in a market, a route by which deadly pandemics are known to have emerged in the past. it was that past precedent that influenced the world health organization mission to wuhan when it too effectively ruled out a lab leak. everyone is biased. i'm biased for natural origin because of everything we have seen in the past. the sheer amount of consumption of wild animal meat is such a known high risk situation. ml meat is such a known high risk situation. . . ., ., situation. all along, other scientists, _ situation. all along, other scientists, while - situation. all along, other scientists, while agreeing| situation. all along, other - scientists, while agreeing that covid may well have come from animals in a market say that is not yet enough evidence to definitively rule out the other possibility that it leaked from a lab. with the change of presidency here in the us,
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that we are now somewhat freed from its political associations has gained traction. following a review ordered by president biden, two out of eight us intelligence agencies are now said to favour a lab leak with low to moderate confidence. and there is a renewed focus on the wider issue of the risks of lab work with dangerous pathogens, although the political partisanship still looms large. robert was a trump appointee to win at the top scientificjobs. i robert was a trump appointee to win at the top scientific jobs.— at the top scientific 'obs. i have 12 livin: at the top scientific jobs. i have 12 living grandchildren, - at the top scientific jobs. i have 12 living grandchildren, and - at the top scientific jobs. i have 12 living grandchildren, and i i at the top scientific jobs. i have i 12 living grandchildren, and i think they are at high risk for a great pandemic in the next decade or two. i think that pandemic is going to be caused by man, not nature, either intentional bio—terrorism or possiblyjust a lab accident. the you have no right not to ask me wait you've no right to tell me not to ask questions. i have all the rights.
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under what grounds? the signs of china's heavy handed political control have been there from the start. and the mystery of what happened in wuhan has become one of the most controversial questions of our time. but it's also one of the most important. where did covid come from? john sudworth, bbc news, new york. we will talk more now about that story a little later in the programme. let's turn our attention to the cost of living crisis that is affecting many around the world right now, but here in the uk, the rate of price rises and shops has hit a new record high. all of that according to new figures released today by the british retail consortium. they say it is largely due to coffee, chocolate and nonfood goods. well, far more on what all of that means, here is our newsroom reporter, naomi. that that means, here is our newsroom reporter. naomi-— reporter, naomi. that figure is at an all-time _ reporter, naomi. that figure is at an all-time high. _ reporter, naomi. that figure is at an all-time high. so _ reporter, naomi. that figure is at an all-time high. so what - reporter, naomi. that figure is at an all-time high. so what is - reporter, naomi. that figure is at i an all-time high. so what is pushing an all—time high. so what is pushing prices up? well, it as nonfood items
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like furniture, home supplies as well as health and beauty products. it is also a nonperishable scheme of things like pet food and, of course, your coffee and your chocolate. just look at this figure. the cost of wholesale coffee has soared by 25% since the beginning of this year. the wholesale cost of cocoa, which of course is used to make chocolate has risen by 18% since the start of this year. there are a couple of factors that are pushing the prices at these commodities up. it is mostly extreme and poor weather and parts of africa and south america where these commodities are cultivated. it is also supply chain bottlenecks and increase of production cost resulting in leftovers from the pandemic and the ongoing war in ukraine. now, what does this all mean? for your food shop, well, year on year we still see prices go up. last year, he would've spent about £20 on an average weekly food shop in the uk.
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that number is up £3 to about £23. that's a price rise of about 15% since last year for your average shopper. but there are signs of food inflation reaching its peak. you can see here the growth in food prices slowing slightly from 15.7% in april to about 15.1i% in may. now, this is still an incredibly high figure, but experts believe that lower costs of energy and certain goods are starting to filter through to some lower prices for fresh items like fruit, milk and fish. so, overall, while food inflation is slowing down, it is the price rises in certain goods that are keeping the average supermarket bill high. and the uk government is in talks to potentially ask supermarkets to cap the prices on staples to help ease the prices on staples to help ease the cost—of—living crisis. just the prices on staples to help ease the cost-of-living crisis.— the cost-of-living crisis. just one line of baking _ the cost-of-living crisis. just one line of baking is _ the cost-of-living crisis. just one line of baking is to _ the cost-of-living crisis. just one line of baking is to bring - the cost-of-living crisis. just one line of baking is to bring it i the cost-of-living crisis. just one line of baking is to bring it at i line of baking is to bring it at
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this hour, news that one person has been killed and another injured in the shelling attack in a region bordering ukraine. this is in the belgrade region, the governor saying that shelling struck a temporary shelter for evacuees. that area that shelling struck a temporary shelterfor evacuees. that area on shelterfor evacuees. that area on the ukrainian border is reporting frequent cross—border attacks since the invasion of ukraine. mark on that's coming up for you. you are watching the context on bbc news. hello. for some of us, it has been a while since we last saw any rain, the particularly across parts of england and wales. in fact, close to swansea there's been no measurable rain for more than three weeks. plymouth, nottingham, sheffield, not far behind. it has rained a little more recently than that in parts of northern ireland and scotland. over the next five days, unlike southern europe where there is going to be quite a lot of wet weather, across our shores many places are going to stay bone dry. there is a persistent
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area of high pressure, keeping it largely dry. for the rest of today, some eastern coast of england will cling onto some areas of cloud, parts of eastern scotland from northern scotland to sting quite cloudy, and when that happens, it will feel cool when that happens, it will feel cool, at 12 degrees for norwich, further west, cool, at 12 degrees for norwich, furtherwest, highs cool, at 12 degrees for norwich, further west, highs of 2a in glasgow. this evening into night, we do it all over tonight, bringing the scoutin do it all over tonight, bringing the scout in from the north sea, rolls westwards, to the skies across parts of western scotland, northern ireland, northwest england, that is where it will turn a little bit chilly. temperature is between 6—11 sunak celsius. tomorrow, parts of east wales to make it part of england, eastern scotland starting cloudy. a lot of that cloud will roll its way back towards the east coast. but if you are along the east coast, where you are exposed to the praise, temperatures are likely only going to get to 14—16 celsius. parts
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of northeast scotland on the getting to 12 or 13 celsius. however, further west, to 12 or 13 celsius. however, furtherwest, in to 12 or 13 celsius. however, further west, in the sunshine, temperatures around glasgow likely to get to 25—26 and excesses. 22 prevention parts of northern ireland, many western parts of england and wales not too far behind. into thursday, really, it is more of the same. the cloudy and coolest weather to be found across eastern parts of scotland, the eastern side of england. further west, more sunshine, more warmth, temperatures up to around 23 or 2a degrees. as we head towards the weekend, high pressure remains the dominant weather feature. we will continue to see the winds flowing around that area of high pressure. where you're exposed to that breeze centre. on around eastern coasts it will feel quite cool and it will be cloudy at times. the highest temperatures and the best of the sunshine further west.
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hello, i'm ben thompson. you're watching the context on bbc news. the trial of the man accused of carrying out the deadliest attack the us history ofjewish history gets under way in pittsburgh. more on that story for you and just a moment. but let's get the latest
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