financial markets have been trading over the last two days there is - still a little bit of _ scepticism among investors. welcome back to the programme. it's make or break for the us debt deal. the compromise hammered out by presidentjoe biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy faces its biggest test — a vote in the house of representatives. that's due in the next few hours. joining me to discuss that and the other main stories — is our panel for the next hour — ron christie, former adviser to george w bush and the former labour mp and cabinet minister caroline flint. also tonight, an exclusive report from ukraine. kyiv claims around 19,000 children have been taken by russia. 0ur correspondent sarah rainsford has the story of the mothers going behind enemy lines to rescue them. and could the humble

pea be the answer to deforestation in the rainforest? scientists say they've found a way to eliminate the taste of peas — so they can be used instead of soya beans in plant based products. but will consumers be convinced? but first — let's focus on that looming vote in the us. it is a �*make or break�* vote on the deal hammered out in last ditch talks. without agreement, the us would hit its borrowing limit on monday. that would mean defaulting on its $31.4 trillion dollars worth of debt. in turn, that would mean federal and military workers would stop being paid, and the economy could fall into chaos. well, the deal took a step closer last night — clearing it's first procedural hurdle despite a revolt from hard—line conservatives but faces its biggest test in the next few hours.

three and half hours now when they are expected to vote but they think are expected to vote but they think a deal is done the mood music is good right now. yes a deal is done the mood music is good right "ow-— a deal is done the mood music is good right nova— a deal is done the mood music is good right now. yes the levels of confidence _ good right now. yes the levels of confidence are _ good right now. yes the levels of confidence are very _ good right now. yes the levels of confidence are very high. - good right now. yes the levels of. confidence are very high. president biden heading to colorado so that he is feeling good about it. speaker of the house kevin mccarthy has said pretty much the same as well. and also there is a other key figure in all of this. another man the majority whip for the republican party, basically the guy who will count all of the votes. 218 votes as the number that they need. he is confident that all of the republicans will get on board in the end and he was asked, what about these ultraconservatives who were saying, we are not going to vote for this. there are about 30 plus of them. which could really hinder it in the house, never mind before we get to the senate. but he believes, that many of those that are making a big noise about this and have not

properly read the bill, basing it on what they have heard or seen on social media and which kevin mccarthy also believes that republicans will get on board and pass it through the house before it then heads to the senate. 1loathiiie pass it through the house before it then heads to the senate. while you are with us we _ then heads to the senate. while you are with us we will _ then heads to the senate. while you are with us we will talk _ then heads to the senate. while you are with us we will talk to _ then heads to the senate. while you are with us we will talk to the - are with us we will talk to the panel about this in just a second to talk to me about mike pence former pike —— vice president throwing his hat into the ring to be the in the running but it is already quite a crowded race for that republican nomination. it crowded race for that republican nomination-— nomination. it is a very crowded rinu so nomination. it is a very crowded ring so far- _ nomination. it is a very crowded ring so far. yes, _ nomination. it is a very crowded ring so far. yes, he's _ nomination. it is a very crowded ring so far. yes, he's expected l nomination. it is a very crowded l ring so far. yes, he's expected to announce next wednesday. he is actually the same day he is holding actually the same day he is holding a town hall with cnn. he is expected to launch a video in iowa, and early voting state, very important because he was to shore up those voters, those evangelical voters, very crucial for him. those evangelical voters, very crucialfor him. yes, he has announcement comes shortly after ron desantis and tim scott as well we do

expect other republican candidates to further hot in the ring as well. stay with us let's bring the panel. ron, what you make of the news that mike pence is set to launch his bid for 2024, mike pence is set to launch his bid for2024, barely mike pence is set to launch his bid for 2024, barely a countries already and we still have a year and half to go. and we still have a year and half to .o_ , ., ., and we still have a year and half to io, , ., ., and we still have a year and half to go. good evening and good to see you as alwa s. go. good evening and good to see you as always. guess _ go. good evening and good to see you as always. guess very _ go. good evening and good to see you as always. guess very crowded - go. good evening and good to see you as always. guess very crowded field i as always. guess very crowded field and i_ as always. guess very crowded field and i think— as always. guess very crowded field and i think the field is going to expand. you even heard that the governor — expand. you even heard that the governor of north dakota wants to -et governor of north dakota wants to get in _ governor of north dakota wants to get in the — governor of north dakota wants to get in the race, let alone for many jersey— get in the race, let alone for many jersey during governor chris christie _ jersey during governor chris christie so we could find ourselves in a situation where we have ten, 12, in a situation where we have ten, 12. 14 _ in a situation where we have ten, 12, 14 republicans throwing their hat iri— 12, 14 republicans throwing their hat in the — 12, 14 republicans throwing their hat in the ring to seek republican nomination. i would sit this could be nomination. i would sit this could he a _ nomination. i would sit this could he a repeat— nomination. i would sit this could be a repeat of 2016 with the more republicans that get in the better it looks _ republicans that get in the better it looks for mr trump for his bid to become the — it looks for mr trump for his bid to become the next president of the united _ become the next president of the united states because he will keep his supporters with him and a lot of those _ his supporters with him and a lot of those will— his supporters with him and a lot of those willjust sort of divide the

remainder of the field. interesting bit, mike pence,'s _ remainder of the field. interesting bit, mike pence,'s putting - remainder of the field. interesting bit, mike pence,'s putting him - remainder of the field. interesting bit, mike pence,'s putting him in. bit, mike pence,'s putting him in direct competition with his former boss. ., .. �* direct competition with his former boss. ., �* .~ , , boss. you can't make this up i worked for — boss. you can't make this up i worked for vice _ boss. you can't make this up i worked for vice president - boss. you can't make this up i j worked for vice president dick cheney— worked for vice president dick cheney originally back in 2001 in the reason that george w. bush before _ the reason that george w. bush before i— the reason that george w. bush before i worked for him, selected dick cheney was that he knew that he would _ dick cheney was that he knew that he would never run against him. now you you have _ would never run against him. now you you have a _ would never run against him. now you you have a president of the united states— you have a president of the united states going up against his old boss, — states going up against his old boss, the president of the united states. _ boss, the president of the united states. i— boss, the president of the united states, i certainly think when we -et states, i certainly think when we get to— states, i certainly think when we get to that first debate here in the early— get to that first debate here in the early summer, we will see some fireworks — early summer, we will see some fireworks sparking.— early summer, we will see some fireworks sparking. we'll talk about that some more _ fireworks sparking. we'll talk about that some more i'm _ fireworks sparking. we'll talk about that some more i'm sure _ fireworks sparking. we'll talk about that some more i'm sure as - fireworks sparking. we'll talk about that some more i'm sure as we - fireworks sparking. we'll talk about that some more i'm sure as we get| that some more i'm sure as we get more, runners and writers know race but let's focus on the story tonight thatis but let's focus on the story tonight that is that debt ceiling vote. this is a us story but it one that has a huge repercussions around the world, if perhaps we got to the brink of default on some huge debts, it

throws the world economy into crisis. it throws the world economy into crisis. , , ,., throws the world economy into crisis. , , . ., ., crisis. it seems so alien to how we do thin i s crisis. it seems so alien to how we do things here _ crisis. it seems so alien to how we do things here in _ crisis. it seems so alien to how we do things here in the _ crisis. it seems so alien to how we do things here in the uk. - crisis. it seems so alien to how we do things here in the uk. we - crisis. it seems so alien to how we do things here in the uk. we have | crisis. it seems so alien to how we i do things here in the uk. we have an annuai— do things here in the uk. we have an annual budget — do things here in the uk. we have an annual budget debate, _ do things here in the uk. we have an annual budget debate, there is- do things here in the uk. we have an annual budget debate, there is a - annual budget debate, there is a vote in— annual budget debate, there is a vote in parliament. _ annual budget debate, there is a vote in parliament. but - annual budget debate, there is a vote in parliament. but it- annual budget debate, there is a vote in parliament. but it is- annual budget debate, there is a vote in parliament. but it is not. vote in parliament. but it is not like in — vote in parliament. but it is not like in the — vote in parliament. but it is not like in the us. _ vote in parliament. but it is not like in the us. if— vote in parliament. but it is not like in the us. if we _ vote in parliament. but it is not like in the us. if we do- vote in parliament. but it is not like in the us. if we do not- vote in parliament. but it is not like in the us. if we do not get| vote in parliament. but it is not. like in the us. if we do not get the budget— like in the us. if we do not get the budget approved _ like in the us. if we do not get the budget approved here _ like in the us. if we do not get the budget approved here in _ like in the us. if we do not get the budget approved here in the - like in the us. if we do not get the budget approved here in the uk, l like in the us. if we do not get the i budget approved here in the uk, then it could lead _ budget approved here in the uk, then it could lead to — budget approved here in the uk, then it could lead to a _ budget approved here in the uk, then it could lead to a general— budget approved here in the uk, then it could lead to a general election. - it could lead to a general election. it is it could lead to a general election. it must— it could lead to a general election. it isjust so— it could lead to a general election. it isjust so different _ it could lead to a general election. it isjust so different for— it could lead to a general election. it is just so different for us - it isjust so different for us here. but certainly. _ it isjust so different for us here. but certainly, it _ it isjust so different for us here. but certainly, it seems _ it isjust so different for us here. but certainly, it seems a - it isjust so different for us here. but certainly, it seems a long. it isjust so different for us here. i but certainly, it seems a long way away, _ but certainly, it seems a long way away, but — but certainly, it seems a long way away, but if a _ but certainly, it seems a long way away, but if a decision— but certainly, it seems a long way away, but if a decision is- but certainly, it seems a long way away, but if a decision is not- but certainly, it seems a long wayl away, but if a decision is not made in the _ away, but if a decision is not made in the us, — away, but if a decision is not made in the us, that— away, but if a decision is not made in the us, that brings— away, but if a decision is not made in the us, that brings people - in the us, that brings people together— in the us, that brings people together and it _ in the us, that brings people together and it does - in the us, that brings people together and it does have - in the us, that brings people together and it does have a i in the us, that brings people - together and it does have a knock on effect it _ together and it does have a knock on effect it has— together and it does have a knock on effect it has a — together and it does have a knock on effect. it has a knock— together and it does have a knock on effect. it has a knock on _ together and it does have a knock on effect. it has a knock on effect - together and it does have a knock on effect. it has a knock on effect for. effect. it has a knock on effect for example in — effect. it has a knock on effect for example in terms _ effect. it has a knock on effect for example in terms of— effect. it has a knock on effect for example in terms of investors - effect. it has a knock on effect for- example in terms of investors around the world _ example in terms of investors around the world being — example in terms of investors around the world being worried, _ example in terms of investors around the world being worried, being - example in terms of investors around the world being worried, being more| the world being worried, being more conservative — the world being worried, being more conservative about— the world being worried, being more conservative about how _ the world being worried, being more conservative about how they - the world being worried, being more conservative about how they invest i conservative about how they invest in the _ conservative about how they invest in the interest— conservative about how they invest in the interest rates, _ conservative about how they invest in the interest rates, also- conservative about how they invest in the interest rates, also has- conservative about how they invest in the interest rates, also has a - in the interest rates, also has a knock— in the interest rates, also has a knock on — in the interest rates, also has a knock on effect _ in the interest rates, also has a knock on effect on _ in the interest rates, also has a knock on effect on prices - in the interest rates, also has a knock on effect on prices as - in the interest rates, also has al knock on effect on prices as well in the interest rates, also has a - knock on effect on prices as well as employment — knock on effect on prices as well as employment and _ knock on effect on prices as well as employment and there is _ knock on effect on prices as well as employment and there is a - knock on effect on prices as well as employment and there is a big - employment and there is a big training — employment and there is a big training part— employment and there is a big training part of— employment and there is a big training part of the _ employment and there is a big training part of the uk - employment and there is a big training part of the uk and - employment and there is a big i training part of the uk and other countries — training part of the uk and other countries here _ training part of the uk and other countries here in— training part of the uk and other countries here in europe, - training part of the uk and other countries here in europe, it- training part of the uk and other. countries here in europe, it matters what _ countries here in europe, it matters what happens — countries here in europe, it matters what happens in _ countries here in europe, it matters what happens in the _ countries here in europe, it matters what happens in the united - countries here in europe, it matters what happens in the united states. | countries here in europe, it matters. what happens in the united states. iii what happens in the united states. final word for you before we let you 90, final word for you before we let you go, watch wedding happens there, this is about politics as much is it about economics, it is not

concessions, you give me this and i will give you that and that is pure politics? if will give you that and that is pure olitics? , . ~ politics? if we were in denmark which also _ politics? if we were in denmark which also has _ politics? if we were in denmark which also has a _ politics? if we were in denmark which also has a debt _ politics? if we were in denmark which also has a debt ceiling i politics? if we were in denmark| which also has a debt ceiling we would not be talking about it. when did we ever do rolling news on debt ceiling or talk on length on it because it is a formality there. they raised or suspended because the agreement is that they have already proved all of these programmes need funding but it has become such a tool now for republicans particularly, accused of using it as a leverage to try and get concessions out of a president, democratic president, it happened to president 0bama in 2011 and that is what has upset so many of the progressives in the democratic party who believe that the steel should never have been negotiated in the first place. never have been negotiated in the first lace. ., . ., ., first place. ron, a word from you about what _ first place. ron, a word from you about what happened _ first place. ron, a word from you about what happened tonight, i first place. ron, a word from you| about what happened tonight, we first place. ron, a word from you - about what happened tonight, we will be keeping a close eye on it but is it a done deal, is it through? late it a done deal, is it through? i've been in politics _ it a done deal, is it through? i've been in politics for 30 years and i spent _ been in politics for 30 years and i spent eight of those working for the house _ spent eight of those working for the house budget committee chairmanjohn kay sick, _ house budget committee chairmanjohn kay sick, there is no such thing as a done _ kay sick, there is no such thing as a done deal— kay sick, there is no such thing as

a done deal until the final vote. you need — a done deal until the final vote. you need 218 votes. i would sit this year fumes — you need 218 votes. i would sit this year fumes from the world. but the body that— year fumes from the world. but the body that brings this piece of legislation to the floor is the rules— legislation to the floor is the rules committee and his nine members of the _ rules committee and his nine members of the majority, for members of the my nordic— of the majority, for members of the my nordic it's called the speakers committee. it was a 7—6 vote. the public— committee. it was a 7—6 vote. the public and — committee. it was a 7—6 vote. the public and seated the democrats to vote for— public and seated the democrats to vote for this. so when you look at how this — vote for this. so when you look at how this might come. i think it will be a lot— how this might come. i think it will be a lot more republicans looking to the democratic colleagues in light of the _ the democratic colleagues in light of the fact that the house freedom classic— of the fact that the house freedom classic us— of the fact that the house freedom classic us as we progress discussed 30 or— classic us as we progress discussed 30 or 40 _ classic us as we progress discussed 30 or 40 of— classic us as we progress discussed 30 or 40 of the members are likely to put— 30 or 40 of the members are likely to put against it. for 30 or 40 of the members are likely to put against it.— 30 or 40 of the members are likely to put against it. for now thank you we will let you _ to put against it. for now thank you we will let you go _ to put against it. for now thank you we will let you go and _ to put against it. for now thank you we will let you go and get _ to put against it. for now thank you we will let you go and get to have l we will let you go and get to have you with us on the programme today. labour has defended accepting donations from a backer ofjust stop 0il, saying it does not affect the party's views on the campaign group. protests by the environmental group, which wants the government to halt new licences for the exploration of oil and other fossil fuels in the uk, include blocking roads and disrupting sporting events.

shadow minister nick thomas—symonds said dale vince, a green energy entrepreneur, was a "legitimate person" to take money from. mr vince's company has donated more than £1.4 million to labour since 2014. tory ministers have called for the donations to be returned, arguing it legitimises just stop 0il�*s tactics. caroline, what you make of this because yes, he's a highly successful businessman, donates to a lot of things, but this is the one to the conservatives do not like. yes, they don't like injustice as well dale vince pays his taxes here in the uk something which she's very proud of as well and he has been a long—standing supporter of the three labour leaders in terms of supporting the labour party. look, i think it is clear that the labour party does not support the taxes —— tactics ofjust stop 0il, party does not support the taxes —— tactics ofjust stop oil, i would say that it is counterproductive in terms of the cause of trying to have a cleaner planet and is not doing

them any good so it is money might be wasted going intojust stop 0il be wasted going intojust stop oil but i don't see any real issue here. we have a very clear and open system in terms of donations in this country. the truth is, that is a tent going on here. there have been a number of prominent individuals who have donated to the conservative party, there has been questions over them being givenjobs in different ways in public life by the conservative party as well as questions about where they pay their tax. so i think this is a bit of a tit—for—tat. what is more difficult for labour is the link to the announcement i think in a few days that keir starmer is going to go forward with which is to stop any new licenses being issued in the north see to find oil. and i think thatis north see to find oil. and i think that is the link there that is the tories are really trying to make and the problems around that. because if he does make that announcement he will then have to explain just how he is going to make sure that we

have enough energy in this country, home current mg to see us through because we all know that when countries like germany decided not to use nuclear they took coal from elsewhere, when our coal supplies were run die, we took cold from elsewhere so i think that is the bigger policy issue here. it is connected to the announcement in a few days. connected to the announcement in a few da s. . ,., . , connected to the announcement in a fewda s. . . , connected to the announcement in a few da s. . . , . few days. the labour party said that it is nothing — few days. the labour party said that it is nothing new. _ few days. the labour party said that it is nothing new. that _ few days. the labour party said that it is nothing new. that policy - it is nothing new. that policy announcement was made earlier but has not influenced policy regardless of those donations. interesting isn't it, that you cannot separate money from politics and this just serves to highlight that once again. it certainly seems to be the case. it certainly seems to be the case. it is it certainly seems to be the case. it is so _ it certainly seems to be the case. it is so interesting i would say i distinguish coley for her comments, we have _ distinguish coley for her comments, we have many of the same issues here on our— we have many of the same issues here on our side _ we have many of the same issues here on our side of— we have many of the same issues here on our side of the pond, the united states that — on our side of the pond, the united states that you do in the uk. ye have _ states that you do in the uk. ye have not had a refinery that has been _ have not had a refinery that has been built— have not had a refinery that has been built here in the united states for several— been built here in the united states for several decades. we inflicted ways— for several decades. we inflicted ways of— for several decades. we inflicted ways of utilising nuclear power, something that is very unpopular with many—

something that is very unpopular with many americans. as we look and try to _ with many americans. as we look and try to find _ with many americans. as we look and try to find a _ with many americans. as we look and try to find a way to have a cleaner ability _ try to find a way to have a cleaner ability to — try to find a way to have a cleaner ability to utilise coal and technology we also look to our friends — technology we also look to our friends in _ technology we also look to our friends in china and india and elsewhere are emitters who are not being _ elsewhere are emitters who are not being as _ elsewhere are emitters who are not being as responsible as we would like them — being as responsible as we would like them to be with the environment. i think the united states. — environment. i think the united states, the united kingdom are looking — states, the united kingdom are looking to try to really thread the needle _ looking to try to really thread the needle on— looking to try to really thread the needle on energy solutions that are clean, _ needle on energy solutions that are clean, effective and cheaper to the consumer~ — clean, effective and cheaper to the consumer. a clean, effective and cheaper to the consumer. �* . ., clean, effective and cheaper to the consumer. . . . ., . , consumer. a challenge for so many countries at — consumer. a challenge for so many countries at the _ consumer. a challenge for so many countries at the moment. - consumer. a challenge for so many countries at the moment. the - consumer. a challenge for so many countries at the moment. the key | consumer. a challenge for so many l countries at the moment. the key to you both. around the world and across the kate you are around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today. itv has launched an externally led review into its handling of a relationship between phillip schofield and his colleague. the review was confirmed by chief executive dame carolyn mccall in a letter seen by the pa news agency. the former this morning presenter left the network last week after he admitted lying about the affair.

itv previously said it had investigated in 2020, but that both parties denied the relationship. borisjohnson claims he has given his whatsapp messages and notebooks in full to the government to give to the covid inquiry. the inquiry has demanded that the cabinet office hand over the unredacted material by 4pm on thursday. a spokesman for the former pm said he urged the cabinet office to "urgently disclose it to the inquiry". the president of the cbi is to step down earlier than planned as part of an overhaul of the leadership of the embattled business lobby group. brian mcbride is to start the search for his successor, with the handover due to take place in the new year. you're live with bbc news. the un war crimes tribunal in the hague has increased prison sentences on two top former serbian state security officials — jovica stanisic and franko simatovic. they were convicted of training death squads accused

of ethnic cleansing — during the break—up of yugoslavia in the 19905. they'll now serve 15 years, rather than their original sentence of 12, after a legal process lasting two decades. that period was marked by many war crimes including genocide and crimes against humanity. 0ur international editor, jeremy bowen, testified before the yugoslavia tribunal on four occasions — hejoins me now. does this, in any way try to draw a line under some of those atrocities and the families that we are trying to getjustice? this and the families that we are trying to getjustice?— to getjustice? this has been unfinished _ to getjustice? this has been unfinished business, - to getjustice? this has been unfinished business, these l to getjustice? this has been - unfinished business, these trials because the tribunal itself, its mandate from the un security council expired in 2017. but this process has been going on for so long that a follow—on body has dealt with it. but this is the last of the trials of the tribunal has decided, did decide to do. i was covering the

war, it was exactly 30 years ago to the day in 1993, the end of may 1993 when the un announced it had passed this resolution. for the un security council setting up a war crimes tribunal. to be absolutely honest, at that time, i think a lot of us thought it'sjust a at that time, i think a lot of us thought it's just a load of nonsense, it's not going to happen. it didn't almost give it a second thought. you cannot find anyone in bosnia certainly that city took it city because of the time they were still committee —— committing war crimes with a sense of impunity but thanks to a great deal of hard work from investigators, lawyers, judges, they got most of their people who they got most of their people who they wanted. they got the top leaderships of the bosnian serbs, they got the serbian president, only he died in his cell. before his trial could reach, which has come

slowly, could come to an end. that seed slowly, could come to an end. that speed that — slowly, could come to an end. that speed that you _ slowly, could come to an end. that speed that you touch _ slowly, could come to an end. that speed that you touch on there, this takes a long time and it underlies just how difficult this process is. to bring anyone to account for work on. , ., to bring anyone to account for work on, , ., ., to bring anyone to account for work on. , . ., ., , . to bring anyone to account for work on. , . ., ., . ., on. his need a lot of proof, a lot of detail, a _ on. his need a lot of proof, a lot of detail, a lot _ on. his need a lot of proof, a lot of detail, a lot of _ on. his need a lot of proof, a lot of detail, a lot of witness - of detail, a lot of witness statements. you need people who can actually prove that so—and—so, so—and—so was there on a given day. yet to prove what happened so one of the results of all of this is that there is not an archive of millions and millions of pages of documents from witnesses, perpetrators and others including almost every deal report i ever did from the place. among others. which is really the cornerstone of the record, the historical record, which in future years people will look at, it is all online you take a look for yourself. it's hard not to draw parallels between what has been happening in

ukraine and i guess the difficultly of holding anyone to account for what is going on there. will any lessons have been learned from the trials he gets his fight at and what we have seen today that might help in some way and firm prosecutions later down the line —— informed. first while there have been people saying, let's have a ukrainian tribunal in the same way they had a yugoslavia one. it will not happen because the yugoslavia one was authorised by the united nations security council, russia is a permanent member of the secured counsel with a veto. it is not going to vote for an investigation into what it has been up to in ukraine, which plenty of us, myself included, have seen and reported on. but, there has to be some kind of a process to bring justice later on. i think it is a very important thing to happen notjust for victims but for the countries involved so they have not some chance of moving on in the future. ~ ,., ., , ._

the future. while some of this may be draw some _ the future. while some of this may be draw some sort _ the future. while some of this may be draw some sort of— the future. while some of this may be draw some sort of lien - the future. while some of this may be draw some sort of lien on - be draw some sort of lien on what went on all those years ago, there are more flare—ups this week, more tensions this week will stop another part. fir tensions this week will stop another art. ., .,, . . . tensions this week will stop another art. ., . . . , part. of former yugoslavia which is kosovo and — part. of former yugoslavia which is kosovo and a _ part. of former yugoslavia which is kosovo and a part _ part. of former yugoslavia which is kosovo and a part of _ part. of former yugoslavia which is kosovo and a part of it _ part. of former yugoslavia which is kosovo and a part of it is _ part. of former yugoslavia which is kosovo and a part of it is majority i kosovo and a part of it is majority served and it is the place which serbs venerate work cultural and religious and historical reasons there is unfinished business there there is unfinished business there there are other tribunals and other processes going on, the former president of kosovo is now on trial in a different form for war crimes which he denies. in that. in the late 905 when kosovo wa5 which he denies. in that. in the late 905 when kosovo was fighting for its independence from serbia and nato intervened a5 for its independence from serbia and nato intervened as well. so one of the many sad things about the former

yugoslavia war 30 years on, is that life in that area, so clear in some place but in others it is pretty miserable steer and a lot of tensions remain and a new generation, sadly, in some places seems repaired to take them on. take on those old tensions. not with guns, at this point, but there is a law of unhappiness and difficulty. a5 law of unhappiness and difficulty. as always, good to have you with us. our international editor. worth 0ur international editor. worth saying... well if you want to hear more ofjeremy reflecting on some of the most difficult stories he's reported on, including his reporting of the balkans war, he has a new podcast. it's called "front lines ofjournalism", available now on bbc sounds. the sackler family has won immunity from opioid law5uit5. the billionaire owners of purdue pharma will be protected from lawsuits linked to the us opioid crisis in exchange

for a 6 billion settlement. purdue, which filed for bankruptcy in 2019 amid thousands of lawsuits, made drugs like 0xycontin and is blamed forfuelling the opioid crisis. in 2021, there were more than 100,000 overdose deaths in the us, with opioids involved in 75% of those according to the us centers for disease control and prevention. live now to virginia where we can join axious health care reporter sabrina moreno. just remind people about the extent of this crisis because in some respects sackler family are saying this is the end of the affair but actually this is just the beginning of it. i actually this is 'ust the beginning of it. ~ ., actually this is 'ust the beginning of it. ~ . , . ., actually this is 'ust the beginning ofit. ~ . . of it. i think that is a great way of putting _ of it. i think that is a great way of putting and _ of it. i think that is a great way of putting and l— of it. i think that is a great way of putting and i think _ of it. i think that is a great way of putting and i think a lot - of it. i think that is a great way of putting and i think a lot of. of putting and i think a lot of people have spoken to whether it be folks who are involved in these lawsuits, lawyers representing them, or even the corporations themselves. this is the beginning of a really long, uphill battle because there are even more than just lawsuits

against purdue pharma, there are ongoing a5 ones with drugstore chains and other drug manufacturers and a lawyer who represents individual creditors who are part of this purdue pharma case, even told me that they are hoping that this is the end to a really long battle that has been for years. but they are worried that it will not be the case. right now on average, 100,000 americans are dying from overdoses every single year. especially as that noel is on the rise we are seeing prescription drugs laced with blissful fenta nyl seeing prescription drugs laced with blissful fentanyl —— illicit. seeing prescription drugs laced with blissfulfentanyl —— illicit. this is blissfulfentanyl —— illicit. this i5ju5t blissfulfentanyl —— illicit. this is just the latest in the epidemic of united states. isjust the latest in the epidemic of united states.— isjust the latest in the epidemic of united states. some people will say here we _ of united states. some people will say here we go _ of united states. some people will say here we go again _ of united states. some people will say here we go again a _ of united states. some people will say here we go again a rich - of united states. some people will say here we go again a rich familyl say here we go again a rich family able to pay money to avoid prosecution but this is able to pay money to avoid prosecution but this i5ju5t immunity against civil cases. criminal charges can still be brought. criminal charges can still be brouht. ., . criminal charges can still be brouiht. ., . . criminal charges can still be brouiht. ., ., criminal charges can still be brouiht. ., . . . ., , criminal charges can still be brotht. ., . ., ., ., , ., brought. correct and a lawyer who i s-oke to brought. correct and a lawyer who i spoke to yesterday _ brought. correct and a lawyer who i

spoke to yesterday also _ brought. correct and a lawyer who i spoke to yesterday also reminded l brought. correct and a lawyer who i l spoke to yesterday also reminded me that this also means potentially, billions of dollars headed towards states, indigenous tribes, local governments to address the opioid academic and 750 million would be going toward individuals and families who have been impacted by the addiction crisis. star; families who have been impacted by the addiction crisis.— the addiction crisis. stay with us let's brini the addiction crisis. stay with us let's bring in _ the addiction crisis. stay with us let's bring in our— panel and ron, this has in a huge problem, this academic that has what the us. it is hard to understate just how damaging, this crisis was for america and many others around the world. says for america and many others around the world. �* , , for america and many others around the world. . , , . , the world. as it still remains, sabfina the world. as it still remains, sabrina hit — the world. as it still remains, sabrina hit it _ the world. as it still remains, sabrina hit it on _ the world. as it still remains, sabrina hit it on the - the world. as it still remains, sabrina hit it on the head, . the world. as it still remains, j sabrina hit it on the head, we are losing _ sabrina hit it on the head, we are losing on— sabrina hit it on the head, we are losing on average 100,000 americans to this _ losing on average 100,000 americans to this fentanyl crisis, this opioid crisis _ to this fentanyl crisis, this opioid crisis every — to this fentanyl crisis, this opioid crisis every single year and we look back to _ crisis every single year and we look back to the — crisis every single year and we look back to the vietnam war in the united — back to the vietnam war in the united states, we lost 58,000 soul jewels— united states, we lost 58,000 soul jewels over a number of years we are losing _ jewels over a number of years we are losing about — jewels over a number of years we are losing about 100,000 a year, a year. and many—

losing about 100,000 a year, a year. and many politicians on both sides of the _ and many politicians on both sides of the local spectrum are looking and saying, is our southern border secure? _ and saying, is our southern border secure? are — and saying, is our southern border secure? are we doing enough to stem the tide _ secure? are we doing enough to stem the tide of— secure? are we doing enough to stem the tide of these opioids, of this fentanyl— the tide of these opioids, of this fentanyl crisis, a lot of which have come _ fentanyl crisis, a lot of which have come back— fentanyl crisis, a lot of which have come back from china and entered through— come back from china and entered through mexico are we doing enough and i through mexico are we doing enough and i will— through mexico are we doing enough and i will be a very vexing political— and i will be a very vexing political crisis for our leaders to confront— political crisis for our leaders to confront in— political crisis for our leaders to confront in the days, weeks, months to come _ confront in the days, weeks, months to come lt— confront in the days, weeks, months to come. , ., , , to come. it will give up ownership ofthe to come. it will give up ownership of the business, _ to come. it will give up ownership of the business, keep _ to come. it will give up ownership of the business, keep up - to come. it will give up ownership of the business, keep up the - to come. it will give up ownership| of the business, keep up the name but it will donate the profits of that to addiction treatment facilities, the family, is that enough to have the right regulation to hold big business to account when we need to? i to hold big business to account when we need to?— to hold big business to account when we need to? i don't think we do. and the irofits we need to? i don't think we do. and the profits from _ we need to? i don't think we do. and the profits from this _ we need to? i don't think we do. and the profits from this business - we need to? i don't think we do. and the profits from this business have i the profits from this business have enabled _ the profits from this business have enabled this — the profits from this business have enabled this family— the profits from this business have enabled this family to _ the profits from this business have enabled this family to ingratiate i enabled this family to ingratiate itself— enabled this family to ingratiate itself with— enabled this family to ingratiate itself with institutions, - enabled this family to ingratiate itself with institutions, both - enabled this family to ingratiate itself with institutions, both in. itself with institutions, both in america — itself with institutions, both in america but— itself with institutions, both in america but also _ itself with institutions, both in america but also here - itself with institutions, both in america but also here in - itself with institutions, both in america but also here in the i itself with institutions, both in. america but also here in the uk. itself with institutions, both in- america but also here in the uk. a number—

america but also here in the uk. a number of— america but also here in the uk. a number of our— america but also here in the uk. a number of our institutions - america but also here in the uk. a number of our institutions receive i number of our institutions receive money— number of our institutions receive money from — number of our institutions receive money from this _ number of our institutions receive money from this family. - number of our institutions receive money from this family. the - number of our institutions receive money from this family. the rich. money from this family. the rich museum — money from this family. the rich museum have _ money from this family. the rich museum have now— money from this family. the rich museum have now said - money from this family. the rich museum have now said no, - money from this family. the rich museum have now said no, so i money from this family. the rich i museum have now said no, so has the victoria _ museum have now said no, so has the victoria and _ museum have now said no, so has the victoria and albert _ museum have now said no, so has the victoria and albert museum _ museum have now said no, so has the victoria and albert museum and - museum have now said no, so has the victoria and albert museum and i - victoria and albert museum and i think— victoria and albert museum and i think even— victoria and albert museum and i think even 0xford _ victoria and albert museum and i think even oxford university - think even 0xford university recently— think even oxford university recently has _ think even oxford university recently has announced - think even oxford university recently has announced thatj think even oxford university i recently has announced that all think even oxford university - recently has announced that all the buildings _ recently has announced that all the buildings and — recently has announced that all the buildings and projects _ recently has announced that all the buildings and projects that - recently has announced that all the buildings and projects that are - buildings and projects that are associated _ buildings and projects that are associated with— buildings and projects that are associated with the _ buildings and projects that are associated with the sacklers, i buildings and projects that are i associated with the sacklers, the names _ associated with the sacklers, the names will— associated with the sacklers, the names will be _ associated with the sacklers, the names will be removed. - associated with the sacklers, the names will be removed. but - associated with the sacklers, the names will be removed. but i- associated with the sacklers, the i names will be removed. but i think it is worth — names will be removed. but i think it is worth adding _ names will be removed. but i think it is worth adding to _ names will be removed. but i think it is worth adding to all _ names will be removed. but i think it is worth adding to all of - names will be removed. but i think it is worth adding to all of this - names will be removed. but i think it is worth adding to all of this is i it is worth adding to all of this is some _ it is worth adding to all of this is some of— it is worth adding to all of this is some of the _ it is worth adding to all of this is some of the reasons _ it is worth adding to all of this is some of the reasons for - it is worth adding to all of this is some of the reasons for the - it is worth adding to all of this is some of the reasons for the thisj some of the reasons for the this crisis _ some of the reasons for the this crisis is — some of the reasons for the this crisis is both— some of the reasons for the this crisis is both in— some of the reasons for the this crisis is both in america, - some of the reasons for the this crisis is both in america, and i some of the reasons for the this i crisis is both in america, and here in the uk, — crisis is both in america, and here in the uk, is — crisis is both in america, and here in the uk, is the _ crisis is both in america, and here in the uk, is the overprescribing l in the uk, is the overprescribing of opioids— in the uk, is the overprescribing of opioids as — in the uk, is the overprescribing of opioids as painkillers _ in the uk, is the overprescribing of opioids as painkillers to _ in the uk, is the overprescribing of opioids as painkillers to people - in the uk, is the overprescribing ofi opioids as painkillers to people who need other— opioids as painkillers to people who need other treatment. _ opioids as painkillers to people who need other treatment. we - opioids as painkillers to people who need other treatment. we have - opioids as painkillers to people whoj need other treatment. we have had our own— need other treatment. we have had our own problems _ need other treatment. we have had our own problems here. _ need other treatment. we have had our own problems here. there - need other treatment. we have had our own problems here. there has. our own problems here. there has been _ our own problems here. there has been a _ our own problems here. there has been a massive _ our own problems here. there has been a massive putsch _ our own problems here. there has been a massive putsch since - our own problems here. there has been a massive putsch since 2019| our own problems here. there has. been a massive putsch since 2019 to reduce _ been a massive putsch since 2019 to reduce the _ been a massive putsch since 2019 to reduce the number— been a massive putsch since 2019 to reduce the number of— been a massive putsch since 2019 to reduce the number of prescriptions. reduce the number of prescriptions for opioid _ reduce the number of prescriptions for opioid painkillers. _ reduce the number of prescriptions for opioid painkillers. that - reduce the number of prescriptions for opioid painkillers. that conduct| for opioid painkillers. that conduct four and _ for opioid painkillers. that conduct fourand 50,000, _ for opioid painkillers. that conduct four and 50,000, but _ for opioid painkillers. that conduct fourand 50,000, but it— for opioid painkillers. that conduct four and 50,000, but it is- for opioid painkillers. that conducti four and 50,000, but it is cheaper, sadly. _ four and 50,000, but it is cheaper, sadly, sometimes— four and 50,000, but it is cheaper, sadly, sometimes to _ four and 50,000, but it is cheaper, sadly, sometimes to give _ four and 50,000, but it is cheaper, sadly, sometimes to give people i four and 50,000, but it is cheaper, sadly, sometimes to give people ai sadly, sometimes to give people a pill than _ sadly, sometimes to give people a pill than find — sadly, sometimes to give people a pill than find other— sadly, sometimes to give people a pill than find other ways _ sadly, sometimes to give people a pill than find other ways to - pill than find other ways to manage their pain — pill than find other ways to manage their pain i— pill than find other ways to manage their pain. i think— pill than find other ways to manage their pain. i think in _ pill than find other ways to manage their pain. i think in america, - their pain. i think in america, may be because — their pain. i think in america, may be because something _ their pain. i think in america, may be because something to- their pain. i think in america, may be because something to do- their pain. i think in america, may be because something to do it - their pain. i think in america, mayl be because something to do it with the health— be because something to do it with the health insurance _ be because something to do it with the health insurance system - be because something to do it with the health insurance system therei the health insurance system there that means — the health insurance system there that means for _ the health insurance system there| that means for poor people cannot afford _ that means for poor people cannot afford the — that means for poor people cannot afford the sort _ that means for poor people cannot afford the sort of _ that means for poor people cannot afford the sort of health _ that means for poor people cannot afford the sort of health insurance| afford the sort of health insurance that gives — afford the sort of health insurance that gives mother— afford the sort of health insurance that gives mother alternatives, i that gives mother alternatives, popping — that gives mother alternatives, popping a — that gives mother alternatives, popping a pill— that gives mother alternatives, popping a pill is— that gives mother alternatives, popping a pill is the _ that gives mother alternatives, popping a pill is the answer. i popping a pill is the answer. sabrina. _

popping a pill is the answer. sabrina, good _ popping a pill is the answer. sabrina, good to— popping a pill is the answer. sabrina, good to have - popping a pill is the answer. sabrina, good to have you i popping a pill is the answer. . sabrina, good to have you with popping a pill is the answer. - sabrina, good to have you with us and also to the panel of coarse and big questions as well is whether this would simply other inspire other businesses with similar circumstances to limit their exposure from liability from bankruptcy courts. the questions will talk more on all of that you are watching the context on bbc news. hello there. we've had two types of weather across the uk today. blue, sunny skies like these and it was warm to where temperatures reached the mid 205, parts of west scotland and western counties of northern ireland. or the second type of weather — cloud. we've had a lot of that across england, even into parts of east wales. indeed, parts of the midlands and eastern england only had temperatures about 11 degrees underneath the heart of this cloud through the afternoon. so extensive clouds been working in with these winds. and because the cloud has been about three times thicker than it was, for example, on tuesday, that's why it's been much more reluctant to break up today.

now, overnight tonight, the cloud willjust re—thicken and move back inland. indeed, as temperatures drop below ten degrees celsius as they will do underneath this cloud sheet, we're going to start to get quite extensive drizzle. so you might find some patches of drizzle across parts of east scotland, central and eastern areas of england, maybe even getting all the way across to east wales. so, for some, it is likely to be a damp start to the morning, thursday morning. the drizzle lasting for the first couple of hours, then it becomes drier later in the morning. much greater chance of seeing the cloud break up across western areas of the uk where if you do start cloudy, keep the faith, you'll get some sunshine. whereas across east scotland, eastern areas of england,

even into the afternoon. temperatures reached the mid 205, parts of west scotland and western counties of northern ireland. or the second type of weather — cloud. ——wherea5 across eastern areas of the uk you are likely to come into some slightly thicker cloud at times and temperatures rather than being in the 205, more likely to be in the teens. but still not bad where the sunshine pops out.

hello, i'm ben thompson. you're watching the context on bbc news. behind enemy lines— we speak to a ukrainian woman who crossed into russian—occupied territory to save her son. one of 19,000 children in ukraine reported to have been taken by russia. welcome back to the programme. as the war rages in ukraine, russian forces are accused

of illegally taking thousands of ukrainian children from their parents.