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this is very much lawmakers. this is very much expected to pass, but there has been last—minute wrangling. there has, we were outside the house speaker's office, he was supposed to finish his recess at 7:15pm but it went on for more than half an hour. we saw lots of people coming back and forth including his chief negotiators. a staffer said to us that one more vote, the phrase was that they had just one more person to convince. eventually the speaker came out and when i asked if it was a done deal and who was the one vote, he wouldn't answer, but we have been saying in the chamber the republicans taking very much a big victory lap. you have kevin mccarthy saying this is the largest savings everin this is the largest savings ever in american history. that's not true. but this is pr, as well. he needs to sell
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this to the republican party. especially the ultra conservative members, who have been making a lot of noise about it. his political reputation is potentially on the line, he needs to show he can make a deal but also satisfy the members of his party who are unsure about the deal. inaudible question. lots of lawmakers on the hill have — lots of lawmakers on the hill have used this as an opportunity to give their opinions about which way they think— opinions about which way they think the — opinions about which way they think the deal should go. you have peeple _ think the deal should go. you have people like _ think the deal should go. wm. have people like emanuel cleaver who is a democrat, he said enough people on both sides don't want the default, so he is optimistic it will go through. he was asked by my colleague, what would you say to people watching around the world who are curious to know why is the debt ceiling becoming such a big issue in america? we know a country like
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denmark, for example, has a debt ceiling but we never talk about it because usually it's a formality, they raise it, they suspend it. he said, and i quote, this whole drama was stinky season and it wasn't a very good look for america. but he was confident that enough people on both sides would eventually agree that they don't want a default. the clock is ticking, monday is the big deadline for this to go through. deadline for this to go through-— deadline for this to go throu~h. . �*, ., through. that's right, and we are seeing — through. that's right, and we are seeing that _ through. that's right, and we are seeing that the _ through. that's right, and we are seeing that the vote - through. that's right, and we are seeing that the vote has. are seeing that the vote has just started on the house floor. we will watch closely to see where the numbers end up. tell us what we have been hearing from the white house and president biden. he has been fairly reserved in what he's been saying about this vote today. he he's been saying about this vote today-— vote today. he has. and throughout, _ vote today. he has. and throughout, he - vote today. he has. and throughout, he has- vote today. he has. and| throughout, he has been vote today. he has. and - throughout, he has been kind of cautiously optimistic. remember, originally he didn't want to negotiate spending cuts and tie it to the debt ceiling.
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he was happy to talk about it but not link it to the debt ceiling. he has been criticised massively by members of his party, particularly the progressives for doing that. but he said, this is how governing works. before he left for colorado, he said he believed it would go to plan and, god willing, to quote him, this will get through. so he is being optimistic about it. the speaker of the house kevin mccarthy, as we have been seeing, has been optimistic about it. so the general feeling is, having spent time here today on the capitol is that it's a done deal, but we have to wait and see how it goes. have to wait and see how it noes. ., . have to wait and see how it uoes, ., ., , , goes. you have been listening to the debate, _ goes. you have been listening to the debate, tell _ goes. you have been listening to the debate, tell us - goes. you have been listening to the debate, tell us what. goes. you have been listening| to the debate, tell us what you heard from members on the floor. it heard from members on the floor. . , . heard from members on the floor. ., . ., , ., floor. it was a victory lap for republicans. _ floor. it was a victory lap for republicans. it _ floor. it was a victory lap for republicans. it was - floor. it was a victory lap for. republicans. it was interesting that the house majority leader steve scalise took to the floor and he did this thing i've seen and he did this thing i've seen a lot of republicans do, which is deflecting blame on to
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president biden, saying it took him far too long to sit at the table and negotiate with kevin mccarthy. he gave credit to garret graves and patrick mchenry, the two negotiators. before we got that bit, there was this procedural point in all of this, which basically helped to advance it to the stage we are at now. i think what was interesting about that was that, usually, the minority party doesn't get involved in that bit. but the democrats did get involved and help the republicans to basically advanceit republicans to basically advance it to the stage where we are at now, where the debate is happening and the vote will happen. so that is quite unusual. and it probably suggests that this will happen again. because it's very likely the republicans, may be the democrats again in the house, we might say it again in the senate... if we see that and finally the bill gets to biden�*s desk and he signs it, we can say it truly is a bipartisan deal. interesting,
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thank yon _ bipartisan deal. interesting, thank you. we _ bipartisan deal. interesting, thank you. we are _ bipartisan deal. interesting, thank you. we are watching | bipartisan deal. interesting, - thank you. we are watching how the vote comes down and we will come back to you later on capitol hill. as we said, we are seeing the vote taking place right now. interesting to see where the numbers end up, but as we've been saying all evening, we expect to see this debt ceiling agreement passed through the house of representatives. it appears enough republicans and democrats are giving their backing to this agreement to pass it through the house of representatives. it would then go to the senate and to the president. sophia, again, what are you looking for in these numbers as we see them come in? we are looking for the magic number, _ we are looking for the magic number, 218. we are about halfway _ number, 218. we are about halfway there. that is the magic— halfway there. that is the magic number that leader mccarthy and biden will need for this— mccarthy and biden will need for this bill to pass. we know that— for this bill to pass. we know that there are a number of key democrats who are going to vote no. democrats who are going to vote n0~ they — democrats who are going to vote no. they are to progressive members _ no. they are to progressive members including the head of
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the congressional progressive caucus — the congressional progressive caucus. we have several congressmen, and also someone running _ congressmen, and also someone running for— congressmen, and also someone running for the senate in california, barbara, who is also — california, barbara, who is also going to vote no. around 40 democrats are expected to vote _ 40 democrats are expected to vote no. — 40 democrats are expected to vote no. i'm sorry, there are around — vote no. i'm sorry, there are around 12— vote no. i'm sorry, there are around 12 democrats who are expected to vote no. about 40 republicans who are expected to vote no — republicans who are expected to vote no. and those republicans include — vote no. and those republicans include a — vote no. and those republicans include a lot of the conservative members we are talking — conservative members we are talking about. we conservative members we are talking about.— talking about. we 'ust heard that if you h talking about. we 'ust heard that if you listen _ talking about. we just heard that if you listen to - talking about. we just heard that if you listen to that - talking about. we just heard that if you listen to that rate on the floor, republicans are taking a victory lap, saying this is the best deal we could possibly have got, and it's the best deal for raising the debt ceiling in a long time. what did you take out of what members were saying on the floor ahead of this vote? members say that first of all, it cuts— members say that first of all, it cuts spending year over year. _ it cuts spending year over year, which is true. members were — year, which is true. members were saying that it makes all of these _ were saying that it makes all of these trends to social
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programmes... —— trims to sociat— programmes... —— trims to social programmes. including covid — social programmes. including covid funding... this is something republicans have been talking _ something republicans have been talking about for more than a vear~ — talking about for more than a year. they said, look, all of this— year. they said, look, all of this spending on covid that is unused, _ this spending on covid that is unused, it'sjust hanging out and — unused, it'sjust hanging out and wasting tax—payer dollars. these — and wasting tax—payer dollars. these are _ and wasting tax—payer dollars. these are some of the items republicans are saying are a win — republicans are saying are a win. mccarthy of course, who brokered _ win. mccarthy of course, who brokered the deal, is taking a victory— brokered the deal, is taking a victory lap for it. but president _ victory lap for it. but president biden - victory lap for it. but president biden is i victory lap for it. but i president biden is not, victory lap for it. but - president biden is not, is victory lap for it. elf president biden is not, is he? it's not his time to shine quite _ it's not his time to shine quite yet, he doesn't get to sign — quite yet, he doesn't get to sign the _ quite yet, he doesn't get to sign the bill. but when he does. _ sign the bill. but when he does, we will hear from him, he will probably do a bill signing ceremony. he will talk about how— ceremony. he will talk about how this _ ceremony. he will talk about how this adds to the list of accomplishments he has been able _ accomplishments he has been able to— accomplishments he has been able to do. this is important for biden— able to do. this is important for biden as well, because he is running _ for biden as well, because he is running for the election, and — is running for the election, and we _ is running for the election, and we are about a year and a
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hatt— and we are about a year and a half away— and we are about a year and a half away from election day 2024 — half away from election day 2024. he is running for re election _ 2024. he is running for re election. it will be a fun day for att— election. it will be a fun day for all of— election. it will be a fun day for all of us. he election. it will be a fun day forall of us. he has election. it will be a fun day for all of us. he has said he witt— for all of us. he has said he will do _ for all of us. he has said he will do things on a bipartisan basis — will do things on a bipartisan basis. there are some pieces of legislation— basis. there are some pieces of legislation he was able to do without— legislation he was able to do without republicans. there were others _ without republicans. there were others that he could do bipartisan, including support from — bipartisan, including support from republicans. he is hoping to add — from republicans. he is hoping to add this debt limit bill to that— to add this debt limit bill to that list— to add this debt limit bill to that list of accomplishments. and i— that list of accomplishments. and i think that's what is important for biden, as we move through— important for biden, as we move through this process with lawmakers on capitol hill. looking _ lawmakers on capitol hill. looking ahead to the 2024 election, how does this play out for republicans? is it something they can sell to their constituents? i something they can sell to their constituents?- their constituents? i think there are _ their constituents? i think there are very _ their constituents? i think there are very intentional| there are very intentional decisions for republicans running _ decisions for republicans running for office, who have
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either— running for office, who have either criticised the debt limit _ either criticised the debt limit agreement if they don't have — limit agreement if they don't have a — limit agreement if they don't have a vote, and if they do have — have a vote, and if they do have a _ have a vote, and if they do have a vote, and if they do have a vote, in the case of somebody like tim scott, we could — somebody like tim scott, we could have talked about the fact he _ could have talked about the fact he is a republican from south — fact he is a republican from south carolina running for president, he is voting no. we started — president, he is voting no. we started an _ president, he is voting no. we started an event where he talked _ started an event where he talked about why he is not voting _ talked about why he is not voting for the debt ceiling, and — voting for the debt ceiling, and i— voting for the debt ceiling, and i think that's a very intentional move, perhaps a political— intentional move, perhaps a political one. we intentional move, perhaps a political one.— intentional move, perhaps a political one. we will have to watch what _ political one. we will have to watch what all _ political one. we will have to watch what all the _ political one. we will have to | watch what all the candidates say about that. we will keep our eye on it and keep the viewers updated. this is bbc news. ready to respond, volunteers with the home valley mountain rescue team about to embark on a search for a missing person.
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the person we are looking for, his phone was at home. there were photographs from within this park. were photographs from within this ark. ., ., this park. from lost and injured _ this park. from lost and injured hikers _ this park. from lost and injured hikers on - this park. from lost and injured hikers on the - this park. from lost and . injured hikers on the moors this park. from lost and - injured hikers on the moors to vulnerable people missing in town and city parks, this exercise is a typical scenario faced by the team. volunteers undergo rigorous training all year round and need to be prepared for any situation, from severe winter weather to extreme summer heat. mountain rescue teams have partnered with ordnance survey to emphasise the importance of map reading skills alongside having the right equipment. by encouraging more of us to prepare when enjoying the great outdoors, it is hoped fewer calls will be made on their time. you are watching bbc news, and you are watching right now a vote taking place in the house of representatives, on the floor there. this is a final
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vote in the house for this debt ceiling agreement that we have been watching all evening. this is a deal negotiated by house republican leadership and the white house. remember, the clock is ticking, lawmakers are trying to approve this deal before the june trying to approve this deal before thejune the 5th deadline. that is whenjanet yellen, the treasury secretary, has said the us would say a massive default, failing to pay its bills, and it could kick off a global recession. that is something the treasury secretary, the white house and congressional republican leaders want to avoid. that is what this vote is hoping to kick off. they need to get 218, right now we are at 205, getting very close. sophie, you have been watching, and it looks like as expected, this will be passing.— looks like as expected, this will be passing. yeah, we are at 'ust will be passing. yeah, we are atiust under— will be passing. yeah, we are at just under 200 _ will be passing. yeah, we are at just under 200 right - will be passing. yeah, we are atjust under 200 right now, | atjust under 200 right now, and — atjust under 200 right now, and we _ atjust under 200 right now, and we already see some of the key democratic votes that voted no.
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key democratic votes that voted no but — key democratic votes that voted no. but most of the democrats and most — no. but most of the democrats and most of the republicans have — and most of the republicans have voted yes. we have seen more — have voted yes. we have seen more republican votes than democratic votes, that is expected. mccarthy is expecting to produce more than 150 votes. right _ to produce more than 150 votes. right now. — to produce more than 150 votes. right now, the republicans at 114, right now, the republicans at 114. the — right now, the republicans at 114, the democrats at 62. we are nearing the 200 mark. they have _ are nearing the 200 mark. they have to — are nearing the 200 mark. they have to get to 218 for the entire _ have to get to 218 for the entire bill to pass. indeed, 218. entire bill to pass. indeed, 218- kevin _ entire bill to pass. indeed, 218. kevin mccarthy, - entire bill to pass. indeed, 218. kevin mccarthy, the | 218. kevin mccarthy, the speaker of the house, did appear pretty confident today. yeah, he was very sure. he was already— yeah, he was very sure. he was already doing the victory lap before — already doing the victory lap before the full house has even finished — before the full house has even finished voting. he did that just— finished voting. he did that just a — finished voting. he did that just a few minutes ago. and on the other— just a few minutes ago. and on the other hand, democratic leader— the other hand, democratic leader hakeem jeffries said, i'm supporting this bill, not because _ i'm supporting this bill, not because it's perfect. so he is
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acknowledging that there were a few concessions. but still supporting it and encouraging his members to vote yes. gn supporting it and encouraging his members to vote yes. on the other side _ his members to vote yes. on the other side of— his members to vote yes. on the other side of the _ his members to vote yes. on the other side of the aisle, _ his members to vote yes. on the other side of the aisle, the - other side of the aisle, the republicans, as you said, we have seen a larger number of republicans, the freedom caucus as they are called, saying this is not a good deal and it does not serve the american people, we are not going to vote for it. of course that doesn't threaten to derail the bill from passing through the house of representatives, but it does pose a significant challenge to kevin mccarthy. it pose a significant challenge to kevin mccarthy.— kevin mccarthy. it does. they have been _ kevin mccarthy. it does. they have been on _ kevin mccarthy. it does. they have been on the _ kevin mccarthy. it does. they have been on the capitol - have been on the capitol tatking _ have been on the capitol talking about this all day. they _ talking about this all day. they are a small but vocal coatition _ they are a small but vocal coalition in the republican conference. you also saw something a little unusual. senator _ something a little unusual. senator blake lee was also on capitol— senator blake lee was also on capitol hilljust now, he was huddling with the freedom caucus— huddling with the freedom caucus members in the house. trving — caucus members in the house. trying to— caucus members in the house. trying to figure out what they would — trying to figure out what they would do. i think they understand what this means for them _ understand what this means for them to— understand what this means for
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them to be putting their foot down — them to be putting their foot down and to vote no, despite the bitt— down and to vote no, despite the bill which is expected to pass— the bill which is expected to pass very, very soon in the full— pass very, very soon in the full house.— pass very, very soon in the full house. ~ . ., ., full house. we are a few dozen votes awav- — full house. we are a few dozen votes away. congressmen - full house. we are a few dozen - votes away. congressmen mchenry was one of the chief negotiators.- was one of the chief negotiators. was one of the chief neuotiators. . , , negotiators. he was. he is definitely _ negotiators. he was. he is definitely going _ negotiators. he was. he is definitely going to - negotiators. he was. he is definitely going to vote - negotiators. he was. he is. definitely going to vote yes, and we _ definitely going to vote yes, and we are currently at 195, we need _ and we are currently at 195, we need to— and we are currently at 195, we need to get to 218. this was months, and i mean months. _ this was months, and i mean months. in _ this was months, and i mean months, in the making. house republicans — months, in the making. house republicans accuse _ months, in the making. house republicans accuse the - republicans accuse the president essentially of waiting all this time to negotiate when he could have negotiated with them earlier. what did because the negotiations to start when they did between the white house and the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy? the speaker of the house, kevin mccarth ? a ., , the speaker of the house, kevin mccarth 7 ~. . _.,,, the speaker of the house, kevin mccarth? ~. . _.,,, ., mccarthy? mccarthy passed a bill with his — mccarthy? mccarthy passed a bill with his conference - mccarthy? mccarthy passed a bill with his conference to - bill with his conference to say, — bill with his conference to say, this— bill with his conference to say, this is what we are working _ say, this is what we are working with. that really
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ushered president biden to finally— ushered president biden to finally get to the table, when he has — finally get to the table, when he has been holding off for a while — he has been holding off for a while. his communications team had previously been very firm that— had previously been very firm that he — had previously been very firm that he would not go to the negotiating table until, in their— negotiating table until, in their words, negotiating table until, in theirwords, mccarthy negotiating table until, in their words, mccarthy showed his hand _ their words, mccarthy showed his hand. do their words, mccarthy showed his hand. ~ their words, mccarthy showed his hand. ,, ~ . their words, mccarthy showed his hand. ,., ~ ., .,, his hand. do you think that was a mistake _ his hand. do you think that was a mistake from _ his hand. do you think that was a mistake from the _ his hand. do you think that was a mistake from the white - his hand. do you think that was i a mistake from the white house? i don't know if it was a mistake... they were certainly verv— mistake... they were certainly very firm — mistake... they were certainly verv firm in— mistake... they were certainly very firm in their decision. democratic leaders of the house there, hakeem jeffries as we said, and what he's been saying on this deal. we are still waiting to get to 218, and this vote is not officially over until the clerk calls it. we will see that in a little bit. what do you think we are going to see from president biden tomorrow? he has commented already today, but what about tomorrow when this vote is over? i tomorrow when this vote is over? ~' . .,
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over? i think he will commend minority leader— over? i think he will commend minority leaderjefferies, - over? i think he will commend minority leaderjefferies, and | minority leader jefferies, and ithink— minority leader jefferies, and i think as _ minority leaderjefferies, and i think as well leader mccarthy for a _ i think as well leader mccarthy for a job— i think as well leader mccarthy for a job well done. if he doesn't _ for a job well done. if he doesn't say that much, he definitely will when the bill gets— definitely will when the bill gets to his desk after passing the senate, and we do expect it to pass — the senate, and we do expect it to pass the senate with more than — to pass the senate with more than 60 — to pass the senate with more than 60 votes. after it's a done _ than 60 votes. after it's a done deal, i think you will come _ done deal, i think you will come out _ done deal, i think you will come out and take another victory— come out and take another victory lap. come out and take another victory lap-— come out and take another victory lap. let's remind the viewers what _ victory lap. let's remind the viewers what exactly - victory lap. let's remind the viewers what exactly is - victory lap. let's remind the viewers what exactly is in i victory lap. let's remind the l viewers what exactly is in this deal we keep talking about. at what exactly has been agreed between white house leadership and the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy. they have agreed to suspend the debt ceiling until 2025, meaning the government can borrow more money to pay its bills for two years. and the ten year freeze on spending except for defence, the budget would increase to $886 billion. unspent covid funds would be returned. the estimate is that will amount to the government were covering
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around $30 billion. welfare benefits will be tinkered with, there will be no major overhaul. funding to help the internal revenue service enforce the tax code on america's richest, new rules will make it easier for both fossil fuels and renewable energy projects to get licenses. and it really was that question, sophia, of work requirements that seems to be one of the biggest sticking points in the negotiations, and remains so if you see what some democrats who have said they are not voting for this, they pointed to that specific part of the deal to say, this is what makes us not be able to vote for this.— vote for this. yeah, i think it's very — vote for this. yeah, i think it's very intrinsic _ vote for this. yeah, i think it's very intrinsic to - vote for this. yeah, i think it's very intrinsic to who i vote for this. yeah, i think | it's very intrinsic to who the democrats are, the ones who are saving. _ democrats are, the ones who are saying. we — democrats are, the ones who are saying, we are not going to go for this — saying, we are not going to go forthis. one saying, we are not going to go for this. one of them we are expecting _ for this. one of them we are expecting to see, senator sanders, he said absolutely not — sanders, he said absolutely not and _ sanders, he said absolutely not. and more than a dozen other— not. and more than a dozen other democrats who have also voted _ other democrats who have also voted no — other democrats who have also voted no. it looks like they have — voted no. it looks like they
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have just _ voted no. it looks like they have just received enough votes for the — have just received enough votes for the bill to pass, so this is a — for the bill to pass, so this is a done _ for the bill to pass, so this is a done deal in the house. it will move _ is a done deal in the house. it will move on to the senate. of course, — will move on to the senate. of course, the clerk will give members enough time to cast their— members enough time to cast their votes. and so you will see — their votes. and so you will see attali continue to tick up. -- see — see attali continue to tick up. —— see attali. we are going to hear— —— see attali. we are going to hear from _ —— see attali. we are going to hear from the house speaker who will hold — hear from the house speaker who will hold a — hear from the house speaker who will hold a press conference. what — will hold a press conference. what do _ will hold a press conference. what do you expect we can hear him say? — what do you expect we can hear him say? probably celebrating this deal? yeah, he will say it's a — this deal? yeah, he will say it's a great deal for republicans. he will try to help— republicans. he will try to help out his members who have voted _ help out his members who have voted for— help out his members who have voted for it. some of them may have _ voted for it. some of them may have voted _ voted for it. some of them may have voted for it reluctantly. he will— have voted for it reluctantly. he will try to help out his members who have voted for it. some _ members who have voted for it. some of— members who have voted for it. some of them may have voted for it reluctantly. he's going to again— it reluctantly. he's going to again take off all of the things— again take off all of the things he believes republicans have _ things he believes republicans have gained from the deal. ——
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tick— have gained from the deal. —— tick off — have gained from the deal. -- tick off. ~ . ., ., tick off. we are then going to see this bill _ tick off. we are then going to see this bill passing - tick off. we are then going to see this bill passing to - tick off. we are then going to see this bill passing to the i see this bill passing to the senate. it looks like there are enough votes in the senate. what do you think we can expect to see there? you mention some senators were saying they would vote for it with amendments. so how complicated could it get? it could get pretty complicated. senator mike lee, republican, very conservative, has previously threatened to hold — has previously threatened to hold up _ has previously threatened to hold up the entire process. but he said. — hold up the entire process. but he said. as _ hold up the entire process. but he said, as long as my amendments get votes, then i will not — amendments get votes, then i will not hold up the debt bill passed — will not hold up the debt bill passed jim the fifth, which of course — passed jim the fifth, which of course is _ passed jim the fifth, which of course is the deadline for the us government. —— passedjune the 5th. _ us government. —— passedjune the 5th. 00— us government. -- passed june the 5th. ~ the 5th. do you think chuck schumer — the 5th. do you think chuck schumer can _ the 5th. do you think chuck schumer can get _ the 5th. do you think chuck schumer can get a - the 5th. do you think chuck schumer can get a clean i the 5th. do you think chuck. schumer can get a clean bill, as it's called? without amendments?-
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as it's called? without amendments? ., ~ ~ amendments? no. and i think chuck schumer _ amendments? no. and i think chuck schumer has _ amendments? no. and i think chuck schumer has also - chuck schumer has also acknowledged that. leadership in the — acknowledged that. leadership in the senate of both parties are prepared to go through the amendments process. we know that if— amendments process. we know that if there is no objection from — that if there is no objection from any— that if there is no objection from any senator, they are able to do— from any senator, they are able to do that — from any senator, they are able to do that clean vote and it will — to do that clean vote and it will be _ to do that clean vote and it will be a _ to do that clean vote and it will be a very easy and fast process _ will be a very easy and fast process. but there are a number of senators, probably around a dozen — of senators, probably around a dozen... we saw senator thun... there _ dozen... we saw senator thun... there will— dozen... we saw senator thun... there will be _ dozen... we saw senator thun... there will be some amendments. they— there will be some amendments. they will— there will be some amendments. they will expect consideration and votes on these amendments. that will— and votes on these amendments. that will be the next hurdle for this bill, as you said. let's go back to our correspondent on capitol hill who has been watching all of this. we are just taking a look, it looks like they are well over the 218 needed for
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this to pass. but as you said earlier, this was very much expected. so how does this line up expected. so how does this line up with what you have been hearing today all day at the capitol? fist hearing today all day at the ca - itol? �* ., capitol? at the moment, the total so far — capitol? at the moment, the total so far is _ capitol? at the moment, the total so far is 292, _ capitol? at the moment, the total so far is 292, well - capitol? at the moment, the total so far is 292, well over| total so far is 292, well over the 218 needed. members of the freedom caucus, not a surprise, matt gates, chip roy, he had been very vocal about this bill... he had said, quote, there would be a reckoning. he voted no. one of the members of the freedom caucus, jimjordan, the freedom caucus, jim jordan, voted the freedom caucus, jimjordan, voted yes. he had indicated he thought it was a pretty good deal, so that wasn't a surprise. deal, so that wasn't a surprise-— deal, so that wasn't a surrise. ., , ., , deal, so that wasn't a surrise. ., , ., surprise. for the democrats, a few names. — surprise. for the democrats, a few names, courtney - surprise. for the democrats, a few names, courtney busch i surprise. for the democrats, a i few names, courtney busch voted no. alexandria ocasio—cortez also voted no. members of the progressive wing of the democratic party.- progressive wing of the democratic party. just seeing
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that so far. — democratic party. just seeing that so far, it _ democratic party. just seeing that so far, it hasn't - democratic party. just seeing that so far, it hasn't been i democratic party. just seeing j that so far, it hasn't been too surprising, i think, that so far, it hasn't been too surprising, ithink, but that so far, it hasn't been too surprising, i think, but it turns out as we can see now, even though they got these narrow majorities, they still managed to get this bill over the line in the house, and of course the battle is not over. the next step is the senate. brute the next step is the senate. we have been _ the next step is the senate. we have been talking about that, but i want to go back to something you mentioned. chip roy, a very conservative member of congress, saying there is going to be a reckoning. what does he mean? he going to be a reckoning. what does he mean?— going to be a reckoning. what does he mean? he was asked, does he mean? he was asked, does he mean? he was asked, does he mean _ does he mean? he was asked, does he mean he _ does he mean? he was asked, does he mean he is _ does he mean? he was asked, does he mean he is going i does he mean? he was asked, does he mean he is going to i does he mean he is going to challenge his leader, the speaker, kevin mccarthy? remember, kevin mccarthy went through 15 rounds of voting to get the speakership, and he cut a deal with members of the freedom caucus that they would be able to challenge his leadership and it would only take one person to call for a removal. but when mr roy and those others who have been very vocalin those others who have been very vocal in their anger towards kevin mccarthy were asked, does
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this mean you are going to challenge mr mccarthy? they didn't quite go there. we will probably get more from chip roy at some point, we fully expect these people to come out and have more to say. yeah, lots of threats but no one has specifically said they will seek to remove mr mccarthy from his role. brute seek to remove mr mccarthy from his role. ~ ~. ., , his role. we saw kevin mccarthy seak on his role. we saw kevin mccarthy speak on the — his role. we saw kevin mccarthy speak on the house _ his role. we saw kevin mccarthy speak on the house floor - his role. we saw kevin mccarthy speak on the house floor a i speak on the house floor a little earlier during the debate. tell us what he said. he took a big victory lap. he is always very optimistic, isn't he? the number of times i have asked him questions throughout the whole debt ceiling saga, he has been full of confidence and swagger. it is a bit of a pr job for him. he wants to show that he is able to make this deal, the republicans have got what they wanted out of it. he is never going to turn around, is he, and say, yes, this deal works very well for the democratic party, because he would never have been able to sell it to
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those members of the house who were very sceptical about it. so he has described it as the largest savings ever in american history. that'sjust american history. that's just not american history. that'sjust not true. that is the way, of course, it's all pr, the way he is selling it. this is his reputation, and his speakership in some ways on the line. thus an idea from _ in some ways on the line. thus an idea from your— in some ways on the line. thus an idea from your sense - an idea from your sense covering campaigns how this plays into 2024? it’s covering campaigns how this plays into 2024?— plays into 2024? it's really interesting... _ plays into 2024? it's really interesting... what - plays into 2024? it's really interesting... what we i plays into 2024? it's really interesting... what we can j plays into 2024? it's really i interesting... what we can say for sure, this will not be an issue until after the presidential... issue until after the presidential. . .- issue until after the presidential... issue until after the residential... �* , ., presidential... i'm 'ust going to “um presidential... i'm 'ust going tojump-n..._ the unfinished business is the vote _ the unfinished business is the vote on— the unfinished business is the vote on the motion of the gentleman from missouri, ms wagnerm _ the clerk will report the
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total _ the clerk will report the total. , ., . total. the bill to amend the securities _ total. the bill to amend the securities act _ total. the bill to amend the securities act of _ total. the bill to amend the securities act of 1933 - total. the bill to amend the securities act of 1933 and i total. the bill to amend the | securities act of 1933 and for securities act of1933 and for other— securities act of 1933 and for other purposes... _ securities act of 1933 and for other purposes. . ._ other purposes... thank you very much — other purposes... thank you very much are _ other purposes... thank you very much are watching i other purposes... thank you very much are watching this| very much are watching this debate and vote on the house floor. passing the bill to raise the debt ceiling. we are watching this vote that has now passed. we had the clerk, and sophia has been with us, no mere cabal as well on capitol hill. —— nomia iqbal on capitol hill. —— nomia iqbal on capitol hill. —— nomia iqbal on capitol hill. as expected, this bill has passed and we talked about how this might play into the bigger picture of where democrats and republicans stand
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looking at the 2024 election. the campaigning is already beginning. the conservatives are painting this as a big win for the republicans. kevin mccarthy. some of the headlines saying that he brought biden to his knees, he got him to negotiate. remember, president biden didn't want to negotiate the debt ceiling and tie it to the debt ceiling and tie it to the spending cuts, but he did. the democratic party are also doing a prjob, saying that this is a great deal for them, they got what they wanted, they didn't reduce... there were spending cuts but they didn't affect too many of the welfare programmes, for example, that were part of the bill. so both sides, of course, will use it to their advantage. the good news may be that this won't be talked about, the debt ceiling, until after the next presidential election in 2024, because this is a two—year deal. because this is a two-year deal. . , , ., deal. that is perhaps a good thin. i deal. that is perhaps a good thing. i want— deal. that is perhaps a good thing. i want to _ deal. that is perhaps a good thing. i want to ask- deal. that is perhaps a good thing. i want to ask sofia i thing. i want to ask sofia about that. you havejust
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noticed there has been a reaction from the former president, donald trump. what have you seen?— have you seen? yeah, it looks like former— have you seen? yeah, it looks like former president - have you seen? yeah, it looks like former president trump i have you seen? yeah, it looks i like former president trump has been _ like former president trump has been talking to an iowa radio station, _ been talking to an iowa radio station, reacting to the passage of the bill by the house _ passage of the bill by the house. he has said, it is what it is — house. he has said, it is what it is he — house. he has said, it is what it is. he says, we will get it fixed — it is. he says, we will get it fixed in _ it is. he says, we will get it fixed in two years. he doesn't think— fixed in two years. he doesn't think this _ fixed in two years. he doesn't think this was ideal. he said mccarthy did a good job. that is former— mccarthy did a good job. that is former president trump's reaction~ _ is former president trump's reaction. of course he is the front— reaction. of course he is the front runner in the republican primary— front runner in the republican primary for the president of the united states.— primary for the president of the united states. what does that mean? _ the united states. what does that mean? that _ the united states. what does that mean? that reaction? i the united states. what does| that mean? that reaction? he actually stayed fairly quiet through this process. especially after this weekend. and other republican candidates have come out criticising this agreement, this bill, for not going — agreement, this bill, for not going far— agreement, this bill, for not going far enough. so this is
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the first— going far enough. so this is the first reaction we are hearing _ the first reaction we are hearing from trump after he told — hearing from trump after he told cnn town hall that he would _ told cnn town hall that he would allow the us to default. tonight— would allow the us to default. tonight he just told the radio station — tonight he just told the radio station in iowa that he would do that— station in iowa that he would do that if— station in iowa that he would do that if he were president, so he's — do that if he were president, so he's taking a pretty hard stance _ so he's taking a pretty hard stance but still acknowledging mccarthy. stance but still acknowledging mccarth . ., , , mccarthy. that is very interesting. _ mccarthy. that is very interesting. we i mccarthy. that is very interesting. we will i mccarthy. that is very | interesting. we will try mccarthy. that is very i interesting. we will try to mccarthy. that is very - interesting. we will try to get the sound of that at some point, of the former president speaking on the radio station. nomia, bring us up to what you have seen from the votes and what you been tracking? it’s what you been tracking? it's interesting. _ what you been tracking? it's interesting, it _ what you been tracking? it�*s interesting, it has kind of fallen into the narrative that we expected, with the no votes from the republican party, 71 republicans voted no. amongst them were members of the freedom caucus, the ultraconservatives, people like matt gates, nancy mayes, chip roy, who kept saying there would be a reckoning, he was
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livid about this bill. he was part of the caucus who held a press conference yesterday, lambasting the whole thing. interestingly, jim jordan, who is very close to kevin mccarthy and also a member of the caucus, voted yes. he said right out of the gate that he was supportive of mr mccarthy and this deal. for the democratic party, remember there were always going to be holed out, particularly in the progressive wing of the party. people like cory busch and alexandra kgo cortez voting no to the bill. —— alexandra kgo cortez. their argument was that president biden shouldn't have negotiated in the first. they said he shouldn't have done that. he had said he wouldn't negotiate the debt ceiling, he would be happy to talk about spending cuts and budgetary reform but he wouldn't tie it to the debt ceiling. the fact he did, for them, it's a betrayal and they have reflected that in their voting tonight.

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