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charges. and the almost impossible rescue from everest, circle debt sold. we have the story of how how a climber was essayed by a nepalese sherpa. more injust a moment, but let's head back to moldova, that conference there of european leaders, the situation in ukraine absolutely dominating. the british prime minister has just been talking to journalists. prime minister has just been talking tojournalists. let's hear more prime minister has just been talking to journalists. let's hear more from him. . , ., , to journalists. let's hear more from him. . , ., ., him. rates to be here in moldova, meetin: him. rates to be here in moldova, meeting fellow _ him. rates to be here in moldova, meeting fellow european - him. rates to be here in moldova, meeting fellow european leaders i him. rates to be here in moldova, | meeting fellow european leaders at this european community summit. many of the challenges we face, whether standing up to russian aggression, here in moldova or in ukraine, but also tackling illegal migration, our challenge is that we can only really sold when we work together with other countries, i've been having a series of very productive discussions here to strengthen everyone's support for ukraine. also to work cooperatively to tackle illegal migration which is one of my five big priorities. fine
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illegal migration which is one of my five big priorities.— five big priorities. one of the meetings _ five big priorities. one of the meetings you _ five big priorities. one of the meetings you had _ five big priorities. one of the meetings you had was - five big priorities. one of the meetings you had was with l five big priorities. one of the - meetings you had was with president zelensky— meetings you had was with president zelensky and of course yesterday we also her _ zelensky and of course yesterday we also her from the french president who said _ also her from the french president who said he was a clear plan on ukraine — who said he was a clear plan on ukraine joining nato, who said he was a clear plan on ukrainejoining nato, presented next month_ ukrainejoining nato, presented next month already. do you agree with this timeline and did you give some reassurance to president zelensky in terms _ reassurance to president zelensky in terms of— reassurance to president zelensky in terms of when ukraine might be able tojoin— terms of when ukraine might be able tojoine— terms of when ukraine might be able tojoin a nato?| terms of when ukraine might be able to join a nate?— to join a nato? i agree with the nato secretary _ to join a nato? i agree with the nato secretary general, - to join a nato? i agree with the| nato secretary general, ukraine to join a nato? i agree with the - nato secretary general, ukraine was a rightful place is in nato. what we are also talking to ukraine about right now is making sure they have all the support they need for a successful counteroffensive, one of the things we have recently done in the things we have recently done in the uk is provide longer range weapons to ukraine, also the first country to provide a main battle tanks. i am country to provide a main battle tanks. iam proud country to provide a main battle tanks. i am proud of that record. and we want to make sure that we put in place security arrangements for ukraine for the long term so that we send a very strong signal to vladimir putin that we are not going anywhere, we are here to stay and we will continue backing ukraine, not
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just now but four years into the future and he needs to know that and we will send the signal of support. in the past, you have said your government would have integrity, professionalism and accountability at every— professionalism and accountability at every level. does that mean that you are _ at every level. does that mean that you are going to follow the deadline of 4pm _ you are going to follow the deadline of 4pm at— you are going to follow the deadline of 4pm at london time today to comply— of 4pm at london time today to comply and send unredacted messages to the _ comply and send unredacted messages to the covid inquiry taking place? | to the covid inquiry taking place? i think to the covid inquiry taking place? think it's to the covid inquiry taking place? i think it's really important that we learn the lessons of covid so we can be better prepared in the future and we are doing that in the spirit of a rego, but also transparency and candour. we have cooperated thoroughly with the inquiry, handing over tens of thousands of documents and we will continue to comply, of course, with the law and cooperate with the inquiry, we are confident in our position that a carefully considering next steps. to double check, considering next steps. to double check. would _ considering next steps. to double check, would you _ considering next steps. to double check, would you be _ considering next steps. to double check, would you be willing - considering next steps. to double check, would you be willing to - considering next steps. to double l check, would you be willing to take this subject to court? asl check, would you be willing to take this subject to court?— this sub'ect to court? as i said, we have this subject to court? as i said, we have been — this subject to court? as i said, we have been long _ this subject to court? as i said, we
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have been long cooperating - this subject to court? as i said, we have been long cooperating with i this subject to court? as i said, we l have been long cooperating with the inquiry, important learn the lessons of covid so we are well read in the future. is considering very carefully next steps but it's confident in its position. that is the uk prime — confident in its position. that is the uk prime minister - confident in its position. that is the uk prime minister ending i confident in its position. that is i the uk prime minister ending with questions about that for pm deadline. only about 25 minutes away from that. repeating that line, considering our next steps, confident in our position. you heard him say it twice. so we wait to see what actually happens at 4pm and the deadline, whether we are actually going to get some sort of legal case, if those documents haven't been handed over. those are the live pictures from moldova and the bollywood president speaking there. we keep an air across that and see if there any significant announcements, principally in terms of war on ukraine. that is the latest from the summit in moldova. now waiting patiently is
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the sports news. let's cross to the sports centre. let's start with some tennis were defending champion iga swiatek is taking control over her second round match. the 22—year—old faces the american in her bid for a fourth grand slam title and swiatek it came out in blistering form racing to a 3—0 lead. she finally held her nerve to take the first set 6—4. another of the pre—tournament favourites — elena rybakina is through to the third round after a straight forward victory over teenager linda noskova 6—3, 6—3. the wimbledon champion got the job done in under an hour and a half. meanwhile on the men's side last year's runner up casper ruud
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was made to work for a 4 sest victory over 21—year—old giulio zeppieri. the danish 4th seed took the first two sets 6—3, 6—2 but the italian world nbumber i22 raised his game to snatch the third set 6—4 before ruud ultimately prevailed in the fourth 7—5 emma raducanu is recovering from surgery and also in need of a new coach after biting way with her previous one. the british player's fifth coach in two years. the 20—year—old only teamed up with the german in december last year. on twitter she posted, i really enjoyed his coaching and working with him, it unfortunate that circumstances made it unfeasible for both of us to continue right now. psg coach has confirmed lionel messi
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will leave the club at the end of this season. messi's final match will be at the parc de princes as psg face clermont foot having already secured ligue un. the argentine has yet to announce where he will play next. the nba finals get under way in denver onjune ist as the nuggets host the miami heat in game one. this is the first time that the nuggets have contested the finals in their 56—year history. denver start the series as favourites thanks largely to the form of mvp nikola jokic who has almost averaged a triple—double throughout 13 playoff games to date but the nuggets aren't underestimating miami. they beat a lot of great competition, they beat a number one seed, they beat the caltex, the number two seed, a lot of teams taken for granted, they will come in there and water them, that's not the case, we will come out and we have be our a game and we cannot play down to any level, we have to be focused. if we play aggressive and play great defence, good fence, run
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up play great defence, good fence, run up and down again fast break points, and we are going to win.— and we are going to win. england's ashes are some _ and we are going to win. england's ashes are some is _ and we are going to win. england's ashes are some is getting - and we are going to win. england's ashes are some is getting off - and we are going to win. england's ashes are some is getting off to i and we are going to win. england's ashes are some is getting off to al ashes are some is getting off to a strong start in a one of test at lord's against ireland. england chose to bowl and stuart broad put ireland under pressure from the start. vintage display from the 36—year—old taking four wickets to restrict ireland to 162 — seven. there are the wickets. also jack leach picked up a couple as well as another as well. another getting 32 not out for ireland so far. that is all the sport for now. let me show you the pictures from jordan, we have been watching the wedding scenes of a huge day in jordan, with the crown prince's marriage and their uc some of the dignitaries, the prince and princess
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of wales, just having a quick word with the bride and groom after their marriage and also that the us first lady, the king and queen of the netherlands and some beautiful pictures coming from a man in the last few a0 having a5 minutes. let's put the microphones up. they believe those pictures in that line of dignitaries, passing on their congratulations. let's turn away and turn to an important story here. in a put investigation on verified live, because the bbc has found evidence of potential war crimes being lost by social media companies using ai crimes being lost by social media companies using al to automatically delete videos with graphic content.
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platforms claim such images can stay online if it's in the public interest, but the bbc disinformation team's investigation suggests the opposite. we should warn you, our report contains distressing images and descriptions of violence. since the russian invasion of ukraine, igor, a former traveljournalist, has been documenting attacks on civilians. like this one on a road outside kiev. men, women and children were shot and burned by russian soldiers whilst trying to flee occupation. igor posted the videos on facebook and instagram, but they were immediately taken down. translation: russians - were saying those were fakes. they didn't touch civilians. they fought only with the ukrainian army. it was really important not to only film this evidence, but to spread it. but my post was banned immediately. major social media companies have long been criticised for allowing easy access to distressing content.
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now, with the help of artificial ,intelligence they are increasingly cracking down swiftly to delete it. but by deleting it, evidence of war crimes can be lost. we are living in an extraordinary period where millions of people are capturing important evidence. whether or not the social media companies publish it or take it down, you can't afford to lose this material. while platforms say that graphic content from warzones can stay online if it is in the public interest, we saw the opposite. we uploaded some of igor�*s footage to see if the platforms removed it. instagram took down three orfour videos from ukraine within a minute. youtube restricted the same three, but 10 minutes later removed them all. and then our appeal to restore the videos was rejected. and this is happening all over the world. international archiving organisations say hundreds of thousands of videos from conflicts in ukraine, syria, yemen and sudan have also been removed from platforms.
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losing even one video is concerning for open source investigators. proving that war crimes have been committed is incredibly hard, so they need to view as many angles as possible. it's almost like piecing. together a jigsaw puzzle. some angles like this one can help us understand i the direction of travel - of the missile for example. in some of the other videos,| we have blurred the footage, but for my colleagues it's - important to understand how a person was wounded - and what caused their death. human rights experts believe the answer is to warn people that a video is graphic and keep it online. or to remove it but create an independent archive for deleted footage from warzones. this would protect users while allowing the videos to be preserved for possible future use. tech companies have a role to play in recognising that while the wheels ofjustice do turn slowly, they do turn, and eventually this information could be critically important. we have already had situations in which the information that was on social media
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platforms such as facebook has been used as evidence in a court of law. so we need to be able to preserve this. we asked youtube, twitter and meta what they thought about the idea. they didn't want to be interviewed, but said... meanwhile, people affected by wars are doing what they can to ensure evidence and history are not lost. i'm joined now by bbc journalist jack goodman, who is talking to us from the newsroom. just start by telling me a bit more about what actually prompted you to do this in the first place? we about what actually prompted you to do this in the first place?— do this in the first place? we had heard from _ do this in the first place? we had heard from colleagues _ do this in the first place? we had heard from colleagues in - do this in the first place? we had heard from colleagues in ukraine j heard from colleagues in ukraine that they had been struggling to post pictures and videos from what
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they were seeing in the war. so we thought, how widespread is this? we so there is no am so of conflicts and this includes vital bits of evidence. we also know social media companies have strict rules on violent and graphic imagery, in order to protect their users, stop people from using images to incite violence, that type of thing. and the main concern that came out of this is that by sweeping up some of this is that by sweeping up some of this material through the enforcement of rules, you are actually losing valuable human rights evidence. tell actually losing valuable human rights evidence.— actually losing valuable human riahts evidence. ., , ., rights evidence. tell me a bit more about that central _ rights evidence. tell me a bit more about that central conclusion. - rights evidence. tell me a bit more | about that central conclusion. what did you learn about how those media platforms are actually using ai did you learn about how those media platforms are actually using al to moderate all of this? this platforms are actually using al to moderate all of this?— platforms are actually using al to moderate all of this? this is really interesting. _ moderate all of this? this is really interesting, we _ moderate all of this? this is really interesting, we wanted _ moderate all of this? this is really interesting, we wanted to - moderate all of this? this is really i interesting, we wanted to understand a little bit about the technology thatis a little bit about the technology that is being slowly, increasingly, being introduced over time. it can being introduced over time. it can be a really effective tool that sweeping away illegal, harmful
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content that shouldn't be on the platform. and we wanted to see how it would deal with graphic war footage. and so we spoke to a company called hive ai and logged into their platform and got access to the dashboard and uploaded some footage from ukraine is one example, to see how it spotted what it was seeing. for example, a body or corpse or blood, that type of thing, and then it it would generate a confidence score and a very high confident school we were told would probably lead to automatic deletion. that is up to the social media companies, they set the parameters for what should be taken down organ damage automatically based on the confidence of the ai tool or perhaps a cynical human review stop what you mentioned reference reference to ukraine, but where else do mentioned reference reference to ukraine, but where else— mentioned reference reference to ukraine, but where else do you think this is actually _ ukraine, but where else do you think this is actually happening? _ ukraine, but where else do you think this is actually happening? that - this is actually happening? that this is actually happening? that this is actually happening? that this is happening _ this is actually happening? that this is happening all— this is actually happening? trust this is happening all over the world. we mentioned before an
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archiving organisation, they are focusing on syria, sudan, yemen, as well as ukraine and they have hundreds of thousands of images that have been taken down by social media companies. one thing we also don't actually know where else it is happening, because it's actually difficult to know what is being deleted and ordinary people will be facing this a lot if they are trying to document the war. but certainly syria was where this issue came to the fore a few years ago, when a lot of material was lost from platforms. we spoke to a man who lived in aleppo who relocated to france and he witnessed a barrel bomb attack and a really valuable, extended cut of a video that was capturing the immediate aftermath of this attack was taken down from the platforms and then actually subsequently the original recordings that were owned by the media company in aleppo were destroyed in a bombing as well. and
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that shows how important some of this footage can be.— that shows how important some of this footage can be. thank you very much for taking _ this footage can be. thank you very much for taking us _ this footage can be. thank you very much for taking us through - this footage can be. thank you very much for taking us through all - this footage can be. thank you very much for taking us through all of i much for taking us through all of that. around the world and across the uk, you are watching bbc news. nothing unusual about this scene are for people living in deepdale here in preston. rats, some big rats, a constantly seeing scurrying about. the same is true here in russia, just off manchester's famous curry mile. it's this kind of disgusting side that is being blamed. mr; side that is being blamed. my brother side that is being blamed. m brother was standing side that is being blamed. mg brother was standing outside, i was going to bring the men, the door was left open and erratic and running inside and came into the kitchen. everyone we spoke to had a right story. the council sensed only here each day. it is only so much he can do. the council says its teams have been incrementing measures and treatments around the area for the last few months. christopher knows
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where rats live. he runs the local community centre in this part of town. ., , , community centre in this part of town. , ., , community centre in this part of town. probably about three times as many people — town. probably about three times as many people living _ town. probably about three times as many people living around _ town. probably about three times as many people living around and - town. probably about three times as many people living around and three tintes— many people living around and three times less _ many people living around and three times less council and police presence _ times less council and police presence to help out and help maintain _ presence to help out and help maintain dot i it used to be nice. for more — maintain dot i it used to be nice. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you are live with bbc news. that's turn to a very important story. among the many thousands of political prisoners currently held in iran's jails are seven prominent environmentalists imprisoned since 2018, and serving lengthy sentences for spying — although no evidence has ever been produced. it was concluded they weren't spies, but a court convicted them on various national security charges. i'm joined now by kaveh madani , director of the united nations university institute for water, environment and health and former
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deputy head of iran's department of environment, who was previously arrested in iran. i will come to your own experience in a moment or two, but in terms of those people i mentioned therein the introduction, being held, tell viewers around the world who perhaps might not be familiar with this story. the circumstances around them, thejudges story. the circumstances around them, the judges that have been thrown at them. this them, the judges that have been thrown at them.— thrown at them. this is not a fiction, this _ thrown at them. this is not a fiction, this is _ thrown at them. this is not a fiction, this is a _ thrown at them. this is not a fiction, this is a story - thrown at them. this is not a fiction, this is a story of- thrown at them. this is not a fiction, this is a story of the l fiction, this is a story of the 21st—century, some people have been jailed and called spies for caring about national resources, for caring about national resources, for caring about the environment, for their efforts to preserve and rescue cheaters and iran's biodiversity, for caring about their homeland and returning home. from there good and peaceful life in europe and the us. and instead of building their monuments around the world and giving them awards, they have been
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called spies, because the islamic revolutionary guard thought, or claimed that these people were helping the enemy governments. that they were spies of m16 and a and they were spies of m16 and a and they were spies of m16 and a and they were trying to track iran's missile activities and nuclear activities. it's a joke, missile activities and nuclear activities. it's ajoke, it missile activities and nuclear activities. it's a joke, it sounds funny, but people have been injail since 2018. one of them suspiciously died in prison, the interrogators claimed that he committed suicide, so far no evidence has been provided, no evidence has been provided, no evidence has been provided to date to convince people that they have done anything, one single thing, wrong in anything against national security. but they are there and that is what we know. the world should know about the story. the world should know about the sto . �* ., , ., story. and i mentioned you were de - u story. and i mentioned you were deputy head _ story. and i mentioned you were deputy head at _ story. and i mentioned you were deputy head at the _ story. and i mentioned you were deputy head at the iran's - story. and i mentioned you were - deputy head at the iran's department of environment. you were also
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arrested. what was at the iranian authorities seem to fear around environmentalists? lrah authorities seem to fear around environmentalists?— environmentalists? iran is not uniuue environmentalists? iran is not unique in _ environmentalists? iran is not unique in being _ environmentalists? iran is not unique in being afraid - environmentalists? iran is not unique in being afraid of - environmentalists? iran is not| unique in being afraid of those environmentalists? iran is not - unique in being afraid of those who care about the environment, big corporations and those with interests in making money in the short term, gaining, they are afraid of the environmental activists, or see them as some sort of barrier against their movement. iran, something is unique, first of all, iran doesn't like any activity that is independent or non—governmental and relies only on ordinary people and relies only on ordinary people and regular citizens. but on top of that, there is a unique, unique power, the power to unite people
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regardless of their ideology, whether they are muslim or not, whether they are muslim or not, whether they are muslim or not, whether they support the islamic republic or not, it's not true for other sectors. that is why the islamic republic is paranoid about the environmental sector. abs, islamic republic is paranoid about the environmental sector.- the environmental sector. a final . uestion, the environmental sector. a final question. you — the environmental sector. a final question, you mentioned - the environmental sector. a final question, you mentioned the - the environmental sector. a final - question, you mentioned the prison, those who served alongside those people still detained talked about torture, talked about solitary confinement, how alarmed are you in terms of how these people are still being held and their mental condition, physical condition? ll condition, physical condition? lf use stay for a few hours in solitary confinement, you won't be a normal human after that. so these people, some of them, they have been in solitary confinement for two years. but what i am proud of, as a person who has interacted with them, is that these people, despite all they have gone through, they are fighting their environmental life in prison, they are organising workshops, they are talking to the other prisoners
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about climate change, they are talking about iran's biodiversity, educating the rest of the prisoners and that shows that, yes, their mental health might have been affected, but their love for the environment has not. we affected, but their love for the environment has not. we have to live there, but thank _ environment has not. we have to live there, but thank you _ environment has not. we have to live there, but thank you so _ environment has not. we have to live there, but thank you so much. - just enough time to squeeze one more story in, it's an incredible story, because a climberfrom malaysia has narrowly survived mount everest�*s circle the own up to being carried down by a nepalese sheva. gelje sherpa found the man shivering and clutching a rope below the summit, where temperatures can plunge to minus 30 degrees celsius. he carried the climber over the course of six hours. a government official described the rescue as "almost impossible." let's talk now to kenton cool, one of the world's leading high—altitude climbers and avid adventurers. he's climbed mount everest 17 times himself. welcome here to the programme. that is just extraordinary, what i've just read out and show pictures of
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supplement i think that would extraordinary sums it up. if you try to live like and he innate human body leaven like that is one thing. —— if you try to lift. now transport that over a thousand metres and to come down and to navigate the terrain, where they came across the malaysian climax, to get back down to the south, it's not particularly easy terrain. it's rocky, there is no, there is ice, there are some steep steps in there. i mean, i am gasping for head just trying to get my head around what this rescue must have been like. you said it was mind—boggling and you are exactly right, we are seeing him there carrying that climber down on his back, of course he picked him up in the death zone, just explain to our viewers, because it's extraordinarily dangerous, isn't it? experienced climbers are so often
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come across people who are struggling and have to make terrible choices about whether to intervene, whether or not to. you must have experience that yourself? l whether or not to. you must have experience that yourself?- whether or not to. you must have experience that yourself? i have and the lovely thing _ experience that yourself? i have and the lovely thing with _ experience that yourself? i have and the lovely thing with this _ experience that yourself? i have and the lovely thing with this story - experience that yourself? i have and the lovely thing with this story is - the lovely thing with this story is that when he got there, he was looking after a chinese client of his, they were climbing to the summit themselves and he immediately made a decision of, from what i gather, he made the decision whereby his clients, fully physically fine he persuaded him to turn around, to give up his old summit bid before they then performed the rescue. so it is so nice to hear a positive story like this coming out from mount everest, after a season weather has been so much frostbite and so much death. this year ranks quite possibly as the worst season everest has ever seen. so a story like this, where somebody is literally plucked from near death and rescued... its remarkable. and
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it's lovely to read. we and rescued... its remarkable. and it's lovely to read.— it's lovely to read. we have to live there, because _ it's lovely to read. we have to live there, because we _ it's lovely to read. we have to live there, because we are _ it's lovely to read. we have to live there, because we are at - it's lovely to read. we have to live there, because we are at a - it's lovely to read. we have to live there, because we are at a time, | it's lovely to read. we have to live i there, because we are at a time, but glad we squeezed it in, got your thoughts, because it is incredible, you are seeing those pictures hearing a description. great we to talk about that incredible rescue. i'm back here and our top stories here injust a moment i'm back here and our top stories here in just a moment or two. hello. today is the first day of meteorological summer and for some parts of the country it looks and feels like summer. this is west wales earlier on today and it is again the western side of the uk that is seeing the best of the sunshine, the highest temperatures, typically into the low 20s. further east, always more of a struggle without cloud feeding in from the north sea will. where the cloud remains, a0 degrees is going to be a typical temperature. --1a. late afternoon, if you badges of cloud in scotland, through the midlands, but mainly eastern england that keeps the cloud through the rest of the day. but it will push its way back inland
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across england and wales over quite thin cloud, it's going to be dry, should be dry and clear the northern ireland and scotland, quite chilly in eastern scotland, temperatures down to 2—3 . it's across england and wales that we start cloudy but the area is going to be drier tomorrow, cloud is thinner, so it's more likely to break up or down might more readily and by the time we get to the afternoon my pretty sunny. just a few patches of cloud running onto some of those north sea coasts. in the south—east, particularly kent and essex, still breezy, wind still coming in off the north sea. right on the coast, temperatures will be a bit lower, but elsewhere temperatures are widely19—21 c and it looks like it's going to be sunny for most places as well. the sun is going to be strong, high uv levels, all the way from the channel islands after the northern isles of scotland. dry day. in europe the rain is still
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here across the south and the weather pattern isn't really changing as we head into the weekend. more thunderstorms through the mediterranean, more dry weather across much of northern europe, high pressure continues to dominate. still quite breezy through the english channel and the south—east of england perhaps, but a lot of sunshine around on saturday, until you get up towards northern parts of scotland, including the northern isles, this time where we will see more cloud. temperatures will be a bit lower here. otherwise, in the sunshine creeping up to 21—22 quite widely. with that high pressure still in charge, as we head into sunday, again, sunshine for most places, but there is cloud just toppling in across northern scotland, through the north sea, perhaps hanging on to some of those north sea coasts, keeping it cooler, but away from here, sunny skies will continue, tempted up to 22—23 celsius.
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live from london, this is bbc news. the deadline passes for the uk government to release former prime minister borisjohnson's whatsapp messages to the inquiry. the government _ messages to the inquiry. the government has _ messages to the inquiry. tue: government has cooperated messages to the inquiry. tta: government has cooperated fully, handing over tens of thousands of documents and we will continue to comply with the law, cooperated with the inquiry. we are confident in our position, but considering next steps. position, but considering next ste s. position, but considering next stes. ., , steps. three died in the latest russian shelling _ steps. three died in the latest russian shelling of _ steps. three died in the latest russian shelling of kyiv, - steps. three died in the latest russian shelling of kyiv, as i russian shelling of kyiv, as president zelensky tells european
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leaders there is an urgent need for ukraine to

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