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of the french open. the 8th seed jannik sinner is out — beaten in a five set thriller by germany's daniel altmaier — a player ranked 70 places below him. the match lasted nearly five and a half hours — before altmier eventually won the deciding set 7—5 — and will play grigor dimitrov in round three. qualifier thiago seyboth wild is also into round thre, having knocked out world number two daniil medvedev in the opening round, the brazilian beat argentina's guido pella in four sets. casper ruud is also through — after seeing off plucky giulio zeppieri in 4 sets. on the women's side, no problems for the world number one, iga swiatek, who eased into the third round with a straight sets win over america's claire liu. the two—time champion will now face china's xinyu wang in the next round. to football where the future of one of the sport's biggest names looks unclear. lionel messi is on the lookout for a new club — after paris saint—germain manager christoph galtier confirmed the forward would be leaving psg
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at the end of the season. there has been speculation that messi could move to saudi arabia or the mls. it's a big night in germany — as either stuttgart or hamburg will move a step closer to confirming their place in the bundesliga next season. it's the first leg of their relegation play off. currently, stuttgart are leading 1-0. a currently, stuttgart are leading 1—0. a goal in the first minute from konstantinos. stuttgart trying to maintain their status in germany's top division for a fourth successive season while hamburg are looking to return for the first time in five years. england's cricketers are in complete control of their one—off test against ireland after the opening day's play at lord's in london, after winning the toss and choosing to field — england struck early thanks to stuart broad. he finished with figures of 5—51 as ireland were bowled out for 172. and in response, england closed just 20 runs behind — on 152—1, with ben duckett
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unbeaten on 60. ultimately, the day couldn't have gone much betterfor us. we won the toss and bold. helpful conditions for that first hour and half, then the sun came out and the pitch played a lot nicer. it was crucial to couples for wickets in the first session. the way the guys played with the vat tonight was pretty awesome. we put ourselves in a really good position. like always, in test cricket, you've got to back that up the next day. the denver nuggets have already made history — reaching the nba finals for the first time in the franchise's a7—year existence, following a 4—0 clean sweep against the la lakers in their western conference championship play—off. the nuggest will be relying on serbia's nikola jokic who has become the face of the franchise and according to his team—mate zeke nnaji, there's a reason why he's their main man. he is literally a wizard on the court — he is literally a wizard on the court he _ he is literally a wizard on the court. he sees everything. he's got ice in _ court. he sees everything. he's got ice in the _ court. he sees everything. he's got ice in the back of his head. his iq is off—
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ice in the back of his head. his iq is off the — ice in the back of his head. his iq is off the charts. it's crazy, because _ is off the charts. it's crazy, because he goes up against guys who are stronger, guys who are more athletic— are stronger, guys who are more athletic and the guys were quicker, and he _ athletic and the guys were quicker, and he absolutely torches them. he hasiust_ and he absolutely torches them. he hasjust incredible patience that no one can _ hasjust incredible patience that no one can rush him. no one can speed him up _ one can rush him. no one can speed him up and — one can rush him. no one can speed him up and if— one can rush him. no one can speed him up. and if you try to double—team him or bring extra guys on him. _ double—team him or bring extra guys on him. he _ double—team him or bring extra guys on him, he has the ability to see the court — on him, he has the ability to see the court and know where everyone is and make _ the court and know where everyone is and make the right path. he doesn't even have _ and make the right path. he doesn't even have to look at you, he can pass _ even have to look at you, he can pass it _ even have to look at you, he can pass it right— even have to look at you, he can pass it right where you needed. he is truly— pass it right where you needed. he is truly incredible to watch. they are actually a great team. they may be the _ are actually a great team. they may be the eighth seed, but they've beaten — be the eighth seed, but they've beaten 6 — be the eighth seed, but they've beaten a lot of great competition, the box, _ beaten a lot of great competition, the box, the number one seed, they beat the _ the box, the number one seed, they beat the knicks. they beat the celtics, — beat the knicks. they beat the celtics, the number two seed. a lot of teams _ celtics, the number two seed. a lot of teams take it for granted, they are the _ of teams take it for granted, they are the eighth, and think they are going _ are the eighth, and think they are going to _ are the eighth, and think they are going to also put them, but that's not the _ going to also put them, but that's not the case. we got to come out, play our— not the case. we got to come out, play our a _ not the case. we got to come out, play oura game, not the case. we got to come out, play our a game, we can't play down to any— play our a game, we can't play down to any tevet — play our a game, we can't play down to any level. if we focus and play great _ to any level. if we focus and play great defence, move the ball on offence. — great defence, move the ball on offence, run up and down to make it defence _ offence, run up and down to make it defence break points, we are going
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to win _ and that's all the sport for now. thank you very much. to moldova now, where the country has taken on an increasingly important strategic role after its neighbour, ukraine was invaded by russia. moldova is a former soviet republic and still heavily dependent on moscow economically. it's also struggled for years with pro—russian rebels in its trans—niss—triah region. on thursday, it hosted a major summit — bringing together dozens of european leaders to discuss a joint response to the war in ukraine. president zelensky — who was at the gathering — reiterated that ukraine should urgently be allowed to join both nato and the eu. he warned delegates that aside from peace, for countries not in the eu and nato — there were just two options: war or russian occupation. today i've heard of the full support from many countries, and what is more important, i've heard about a significant number of aircraft fighters, and surely,
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under the leadership of the united states will combine the countries and to create this coalition. the third aspect that you have mention about nato, it wasn't about nato that we had the meeting, but ukraine has raised this matter because we believe this is a part of the defence for the continent and the whole world. we have to do as much as possible for ukraine to receive some step forward or towards the alliance. and we have to receive this signal from the nato member nations. we are working on that. thank you. joining me now from moldova's capital kish—inow is suzanne lynch politico europe's chief brussels correspondent. thank you for being on the
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programme. of course, that summit in moldova, events in ukraine really did dominate the agenda, didn't they? this is interesting because this wasn't just about the west saying we will provide weapons, this is showing that they were not unified politically on the response to the war in ukraine. —— that they were unified politically. this to the war in ukraine. -- that they were unified politically.— were unified politically. this is a hu:el were unified politically. this is a hugely symbolic _ were unified politically. this is a hugely symbolic moment - were unified politically. this is a hugely symbolic moment here l were unified politically. this is a - hugely symbolic moment here today, this gathering of more than a0 leaders is taking place in moldova, literally and metaphorically in russia's back yard. this is what russia's back yard. this is what russia sees as its sphere of influence. and where i am sitting now, leaders havejust influence. and where i am sitting now, leaders have just left influence. and where i am sitting now, leaders havejust left in influence. and where i am sitting now, leaders have just left in the last couple of hours, we are just a half an hour drive from the ukrainian border. so there's been a huge amount of security here, the airspace was closed for the duration of the summit. leaders were in and out here quite quickly. and lots of road closure is, journalists travelled there by train this morning in a special train. so a
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huge level of risk in this, but also of symbolism. it's very much showing a united message, that the broader european community is behind ukraine andindeed european community is behind ukraine and indeed mulled over a. so european community is behind ukraine and indeed mulled over a.— and indeed mulled over a. so ukraine and indeed mulled over a. so ukraine and moldova — and indeed mulled over a. so ukraine and moldova both _ and indeed mulled over a. so ukraine and moldova both wanting _ and indeed mulled over a. so ukraine and moldova both wanting to - and indeed mulled over a. so ukraine and moldova both wanting to begin i and moldova both wanting to begin those talks very quickly to join mouth nato and eu. eu. there is nervousness that among some nato members that doing it too hastily could mean that nato is in direct conflict and confrontation with russia. , , , . ., russia. yes, this is the challenge. nato and nato _ russia. yes, this is the challenge. nato and nato members - russia. yes, this is the challenge. nato and nato members have - russia. yes, this is the challenge. l nato and nato members have been treading a fine line since the start of the full—scale invasion by russia of the full—scale invasion by russia of ukraine. trying to give ukraine sufficient support to win this war at the same time not to provoke russia. it's interesting to mejust an hour or so russia. it's interesting to mejust an hour orso ago, russia. it's interesting to mejust an hour or so ago, the german chancellor made the point that it was individual members of nato that were giving arms and defence weapons to ukraine, not to nato itself. and you can see in his language, he was conscious of his words and where he
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was. similarly, with eu membership, last year, the eu agreed to give candidate status to both ukraine and moldova. a huge step for both countries. however, they both still have huge steps to make before they actually become members of the eu. it's not going to happen anytime soon. the way it works in the eu is that all 27 members of the european union effectively have a veto over enlarging the european union to include other countries. so even though they are giving more signals to ukraine and moldova that their path is in the eu, ultimately, we are still some many years really away from that ever becoming a reality. away from that ever becoming a reali . �* , away from that ever becoming a reali .�* , _ , reality. but it is the symbolism, isn't it? that _ reality. but it is the symbolism, isn't it? that those _ reality. but it is the symbolism, isn't it? that those talks - reality. but it is the symbolism, isn't it? that those talks could i isn't it? that those talks could begin and begin and begin quickly that will probably anger and wary some in moscow right now. absolutely. i think the message here today was quite moving at the beginning of the summit. president zelensky was the first leader to arrive, and the reformist pro—western president of moldova was
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there to meet him, and they were standing together side by side in the sun. they were making it clear in their statements that they see their future towards the west, towards europe. you know, an alliance of like—minded countries. that symbolism will not have gone unnoticed. moldova itself has been very much under control of russia for some time and that soviet union about 30 years are cut so ago. in terms of energy, it was very dependent, 100% dependent on russian gas up until recently, and yet it has been scrabbling to diversify its gas sources. they very much feel that they are at a crossroads, and they are very much later the on the border of this war in ukraine, and it was interesting that the president could have thanked zielinski for what he'd done, and it was a sincere go that moldova could be next, that it could be the next country that russia had looked too. so far, not the case, and moldovan
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officials here are very pleased that these leaders all came here to the country for that display of solidarity. if country for that display of solidarity-— country for that display of solidari . . solidarity. if we ever needed a reminder— solidarity. if we ever needed a reminder of _ solidarity. if we ever needed a reminder ofjust _ solidarity. if we ever needed a reminder ofjust how - solidarity. if we ever needed a reminder ofjust how fragile i solidarity. if we ever needed a l reminder ofjust how fragile that peace can be, of course, also on the agenda was those growing tensions in kosovo. . �* , , kosovo. that's right. sometimes these bi kosovo. that's right. sometimes these his set _ kosovo. that's right. sometimes these big set piece _ kosovo. that's right. sometimes these big set piece gatherings i kosovo. that's right. sometimes. these big set piece gatherings can actually commit the news angle is what happens on the sidelines of that, and one of the opportunities here are two meats bilaterally. there have been tensions in north kosovo and the leaders we just learned that the french president and german chancellor mesh with the leaders and they have called for a de—escalation in the area. to different extents are also on this path tojoin different extents are also on this path to join the eu someday. it's very much in their interest to be part of the community. that's now a major concern about that of violence, that tension that has
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flared up in that corner of kosovo and it was very much to the forefront of everyone's my care today. forefront of everyone's my care toda . �* , . , forefront of everyone's my care toda. �*, ., , ., forefront of everyone's my care toda. �*, ., ., today. it's really good to have you on the programme. _ today. it's really good to have you on the programme. thank- today. it's really good to have you on the programme. thank you. i now to israel, where tensions are high at the start of the country's lgbtq pride week, which begins with the jerusalem pride march. the event, which takes place every year, is the first event of its kind to take place since the most hard—line and religiously conservative government in israel's history took power five months ago. israel's far—right police minister itamar ben—gvir was jeered by marchers who accused him of trying to push them "back in the closet". our middle east correspondent, tom bateman, has been amongst the crowd at today's march. the theme of this year's a pride in jerusalem is tolerance. it is a very specific reason for that, and that is because this is the first gay
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pride celebration since they elected their ultranationalist government, a government that includes openly homophobic ministers, senior ministers, some of whom lead to far right parties. now, one of those people as the police minister in israel, and he is actually responsible for the safety of all these people. overseeing the police operation. now, he is somebody with a homophobic track history. in the past, he attended counter protests to gay pride. he arrived here a few minutes ago and walked down the street here with his security detail. there were cries of shame from the crowd. we caught up with him. i asked from the crowd. we caught up with him. iasked if from the crowd. we caught up with him. i asked if what he did was a provocation, he denied that, but it gives you a real insight into why there is such a sense of tension this year, and the other reason is because there's been a lot of activity on telegram, social media, in the run—up to this from far right are transnational groups, one of
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which tries to prevent relationships between dues and arabs. it doesn't openly homophobic organisation as well. some of those demonstrators had a counter protest, if you come this way, the police have completely separated these two events. it is a couple of dozens of people over there, we were just filming them, asked one of them why they were there and they were talking in very biblical terms about why they disagree with all of this. jerusalem always has extremely high tensions when it comes to this event. this is a holy city with the world's three monotheistic religions here. we've seen christian fundamentalists campaigning or protesting as well about this. since 2015, when in ultra—orthodox extremists stabbed to death a 16—year—old marcher, he was in prison, but there has always been very high security, why this entire event is sealed by the police.
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everyone is screamed before they are able to get in. but it's in the context of an unprecedented class this year between secular israelis and national religious israelis who support the government. in that comment, the organisers have said they wanted a huge show out today. they wanted record numbers of people here. that was our correspondent tom bateman and the scene injerusalem. to shed some light on the situation in israel i am joined from tel aviv by political analyst dahlia scheinlin. thank you for being on the programme. it's interesting, isn't it, we have seen these tensions ratchet up ahead of what should be a big celebration for the pride week that gets under way there. tel aviv has a reputation as being one of the most gay friendly cities in the world. what has changed? well, tel aviv remains — world. what has changed? well, tel aviv remains a _ world. what has changed? well, tel aviv remains a gay _ world. what has changed? well, tel aviv remains a gay friendly - world. what has changed? well, tel aviv remains a gay friendly city - aviv remains a gay friendly city this has completely merged itself with the protests that have been going on since late december and
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early january, going on since late december and earlyjanuary, the going on since late december and early january, the 21st week now. i think it's really interesting to me you know, the protests, the pride march always generates tensions in jerusalem. it's a very conservative city. they certainly oppose it and it's always been a source of tension. but what we see now are the politicians and the leaders in the kinds of people who showed up to the protests today, i think is what was most interesting was they were israel's most mainstream leaders. a firm is a paid corm justice committee head of the opposition saying i think your reporter quoted it they want to put us back in the closet commits a class up and hate and we want to go back there. there was a former chief of staff who is also a senior politician right now. this is practically unthinkable about 20 years ago, and it shows that not only has it become much money it become much more mainstream and israeli life to be openly lgbt, but that the democracy protests feel like they needed to be part of that eventin
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like they needed to be part of that event injerusalem in order to amplify their case. i also want to point out one thing in response to something your reporter said about this being a conflict of secular and religiousjew, certainly this being a conflict of secular and religious jew, certainly the extremists and ultranationalist extremists and ultra nationalist ultranationalist extremists and ultranationalist ultranationalist and government are homophobic, but there plenty of people who are open to this and the evidence is that one of the speakers at the parade today was the mother from a national religious, will become modern orthodoxjewish mother of an eight—year—old trans boy who had to fight in court a few months earlier to stay in his school, and she was very prominent in the event today. so i think that's also about this, there are plenty who are willing to look at the well different from the ultranationalist sin government do. is different from the ultranationalist sin government do.— different from the ultranationalist sin government do. is there a sense erha -s sin government do. is there a sense perhaps that — sin government do. is there a sense perhaps that that _ sin government do. is there a sense perhaps that that lgbt _ sin government do. is there a sense perhaps that that lgbt community | perhaps that that lgbt community just one of the minorities that is being targeted, but perhaps most visible given that it is the start of pride week, and this isjust visible given that it is the start of pride week, and this is just a
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wider backlash against those judicial overhaul plans that are coming down the line. absolutely. alain, coming down the line. absolutely. again. these _ coming down the line. absolutely. again, these protests _ coming down the line. absolutely. again, these protests these - coming down the line. absolutely. l again, these protests these margins have been getting bigger and bigger in a sort of festive signs every year, but there has always been tension interest on. it's always a problem. yes, you're absolutely right. i think the main interesting point here is to be supportive of the lgbt community is being seen as a proxy for the support for all the minorities who are threatened, and it is becoming one of them are consensus issues that allow people on different sides of the political divide, and remember, israel's political divide is primarily over the israeli palestinian issue. it's interesting that the pride parade today was mostly nonviolent despite a lot of concern. but there were scuffles, and some of the scuffles wear it when the police, especially the border police units tried to confiscate palestinian flags that some of the young people raise, and if they raise it not necessarily
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because palestinian nationalists, but as a protest against this government and its policies, may be in solidarity with palestinians, but thatis in solidarity with palestinians, but that is where you see the most tense divide with the greatest likelihood of violence committed to be supportive of lgbt and a way as a crosscutting issue at this point. than crosscutting issue at this point. an important point. really good to have your thoughts. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. bbc news — bringing you different stories from across the uk. there is nothing unusual about this scene for people living here in preston. rats, some big rats, constantly seen scurrying about. the same is true here just off manchester's famous curry mile. and it's this kind of disgusting site that's being blamed. my boys were standing outside, i was just going to bring them in with the shopping, the door was left open, and a rat came running inside into came into the kitchen. everyone we spoke to here had a rat story. the council sends tony
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here every day, but there's only so much he can do. the council says its teams have been implementing measures and treatments around the area for the last few months. christopher knows where the rats live. he runs the local community centre in this part of the region. there's probably about three times more people living around here, and three times less council and police presence to help out and help maintain the beautiful area that used to be nice. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you're live with bbc news. just want to bring in some pictures showing presidentjoe biden who tripped and fell whilst handing out diplomas at a graduation ceremony. this took place at the us air force academy a little earlier today. now, of course, the president is 80 years old, butjust take a look at what happened here. the president
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tripping and falling from a help to thereby a few officials on the stage. after getting back up, he was able to walk back to his seat without assistance. you will notice that he planted back behind him indicating perhaps what he tripped over. the white house, they have responded and said that president joe biden is fine, they said there was a sandbag on the stage, and he tripped over it while shaking hands. president biden running for reelection in 202a. doctors have now declared him fit and healthy for duty after being physically examined earlier in the year. of course, lots of questions about his age and his suitability to run for what will be a grueling campaign ahead of those elections. republicans lining up their candidates to take on presidentjoe biden. at the age of 80, one of the oldest presidents, but the white house very keen to point out he was absolutely fine and able to get up and return to his seat. those are the pictures they're
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coming to us from the united states. we will be back with that story and talk about it some more but the panel. lots of political developments in the united states, but let's focus on stories closer to home. house prices have fallen at their fastest annual rate in nearly 1a years, according to britain's biggest building society. nationwide said prices in the year to may fell by 3.a%, the biggest drop sincejuly 2009. it also warned that further increases in interest rates could hit the housing market. our business correspondent ben king reports. to explain more about this, i am joined now by the chief executive of research at zoopla, richard donnell. richard, good to see you. so, prices starting to fall. some say inevitable, given these consecutive rises in interest rates that we have seen, which makes it much more expensive to take out a home loan. that's right. we have seen prices down 3% year on year, i think to put
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this in context, the pandemic, when there was a huge surge and buying interest in property. house prices went up nearly 20%. this is some loss in value. i think there's very little risk of anyone going into negative equity. you're absolutely right. higher mortgage rates eats buying power, that means people can't afford to spend as much, and thatis can't afford to spend as much, and that is when prices need to adjust closer to what buyers are prepared to pay. closer to what buyers are prepared to -a . . , , ., to pay. that will be the question about how _ to pay. that will be the question about how long _ to pay. that will be the question about how long all— to pay. that will be the question about how long all of— to pay. that will be the question about how long all of this - about how long all of this takes. because i guess if you are already a homeowner and you are looking to move, no real problem, because maybe what you sow for is down a bit, but what you sow for is down a bit, but what you sow for is down a bit, but what you are buying is down a bit. the problem is forfirst—time buyers, isn't that? the problem is for first-time buyers, isn't that? absolutely. i think first time _ buyers, isn't that? absolutely. i think first time buyers _ buyers, isn't that? absolutely. i think first time buyers have - buyers, isn't that? absolutely. i l think first time buyers have faced two things, rents are rising quickly, that puts pressure on first—time buyers, and they have to
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rely heavily on funding from friends and family to support them with a deposit. then banks are also testing your ability to afford a mortgage, notjust at their higher rates we see now of four and half or 5%, but even higher, and so that is a real challenge for first—time buyers. last year, they were almost one in three home—buyers. people are getting their hold of deposit, but there are many who don't have access to a deposit and it's a real challenge stop at the government has been frequently resized for lodging schemes designed to help first—time buyers get on the housing ladder, and actually all they do is serve to inflate prices, things like help to buy. what should the government be doing right now to help people who, as he said, are facing rising rents and still struggle to get enough cash together to put up deposit down to buy somewhere. i'm sure the government would love to change the direction of interest rates, but it can't, it's all about keeping the economy strong, and the labour
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market is strong. i think it's about building more homes. that's the number one thing. we need to keep increasing the supply of homes, particularly for those on middle incomes and delivering more affordable housing. by increasing supply, we can increase the supply of rented homes as well. it really is a supply—side response to increased choice and help people access their first home.— access their first home. richard, and in you _ access their first home. richard, and in you sentence, _ access their first home. richard, and in you sentence, and - access their first home. richard, and in you sentence, and i - access their first home. richard, and in you sentence, and i know| access their first home. richard, i and in you sentence, and i know it's the million—dollar question, but much further do they fall? i the million-dollar question, but much further do they fall? i think rices are much further do they fall? i think prices are going _ much further do they fall? i think prices are going to _ much further do they fall? i think prices are going to drift - much further do they fall? i think| prices are going to drift sideways, frankly. they are going to go up and down a bit for the next year or two. a lot depends on how much higher mortgage rates go. he think the housing markets can manage four or 5% mortgage rates, but the greater chance that prices could fall further. the risk of negative equity is low, but the outlook is certainly weaker for some time to come. it is weaker for some time to come. it is auoin to weaker for some time to come. it is going to be — weaker for some time to come. it is going to be fascinating to see how all of this plays out. really good
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to talk to you. executive director of research at... much more is still to come on the programme. more on all of those stories on the bbc news website as well. we will have the panel with us in a few moments. you are watching the context here on bbc news. see you soon. hello there. there's no rain in the forecast for the next few days, and the first day of meteorological summer got off to a sparkling start here in eastbourne, in east sussex. many parts of the country saw the sunshine coming through, but not everywhere. some eastern areas of scotland and eastern england stayed cloudy and as a result quite a bit cooler as well. but we should see more sunshine developing across more of the country tomorrow because drier air is going to be coming in from off the north sea. at the moment, though, what's happening overnight is the cloud that we've had
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in eastern areas is going to push back inland across england and wales, but it's quite thin cloud. for scotland and northern ireland, this is where it's going to be clearer, but it's going to be eastern scotland that will be quite chilly. 2—3 degrees here, otherwise about eight degrees first thing on friday morning. and it could be quite a cloudy start for england and wales, but this time the cloud is thinner. so it's going to break up more readily, and we'll get more sunshine developing more widely across the uk. just a bit of patchy cloud hugging some of these north sea coasts. now, for many, the winds will be light, but it's still going to be pretty breezy across the south—east through the english channel. noticeably breezy in these areas, so a little bit cooler, perhaps. and with the wind off the north sea, right on the coast, it will be cooler. but with sunny skies developing in most places, then those temperatures more widely will be reaching a pleasant 20—21 degrees. but uv level�*s going to be high right the way across the country, all the way from the shetland isles down into the channel islands. now if you're wondering where all the rain's gone, it's really across southern parts of europe. it stays wet and thundery in places
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cos high pressure that's been keeping it dry still sitting over the uk. still got some stronger winds across the south and south—east. otherwise the winds are light. on saturday, we could see more cloud coming into the far north of scotland, so a little bit cooler here. but otherwise, lots of sunshine around again on saturday. those temperatures creeping up a little bit, up to around 22—23 degrees. and the glorious weekend continues for many areas with sunny skies. but there's more cloud notjust in northern scotland, rolling down the north sea, perhaps hugging some of these north sea coasts, particularly in the north—east of england. so, again, a little bit cooler here, but otherwise, those temperatures gradually getting up to 23 or even 2a celsius.
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hello, i'm ben thompson. you're watching the context on bbc news. it is prepared to go to court. they say it's about principle, there has to be some element of privacy making in government, but it leaves them open to the charge already levelled by labour that they've got something to cover up. the government's cooperated thoroughly with the inquiry today, handing over tens of thousands of documents, and we will continue to comply, of course, with the law and cooperate with the inquiry. we're confident in our position but are carefully considering next steps. if they say the government| can decide what's relevant, then what's going to stop everyone deciding what they send _
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