referee anthony taylor after the europa league final — the president of the uk's referee�*s association, paul field joins me shortly hello, i'm matthew amrtoliwala — welcome to verified live — three hours of breaking stories, and checking out the truth behind them. we begin in the uk where one of the nation's best known presenters phillip schofield has told the bbc he's lost everything, and does not see a future for his career, after his affair with a junior male colleague. the anchor — who hosted the popular daytime show this morning, has been in the headlines after admitting to an "unwise but not illegal" relationship. in his first interview since the scandal, he said the affair only began several years

after he first met the young man, who was 15 at the time. mr schofield strongly denies grooming him, but says he regrets the relationship and lying about it when itv tried to investigate. he's been talking to the bbc�*s amol rajan. last week, if my... ..daughters hadn't been there... ..then...i wouldn't be here. and they've. .. ..guarded me. um... and won't let me out of their sight. it's like a weird...numbness. i know that's a selfish point of view. but you come to a point where you just think, "how much are you supposed to take?"

if all of those people that write all of that stuff... do they ever think that there's actually... ..a person at the other end? and so... ..hereiam, um... are you feeling 0k to do this? are you feeling strong enough to do this interview? yeah, i have to. why? why do you want to do this interview? because there is an innocent person here who didn't do anything wrong. who is...vulnerable... ..and probably feels like i do. and... ..i just have to say... ..stop with him. ok, with me. but stop with him. leave him alone now.

let me say, you know, a lot of my questions are going to be uncomfortable and, let's face it, intrusive. but you've chosen this opportunity to tell your side of the story. and there are questions that your viewers, all the people who supported you over the years — including your family — will want answers to. there's also, of course, lots of questions for itv in all this. you mentioned this young man, and at the centre of recent events is a young man who, together with many others in the media, we're not going to name. under article 8 of the human rights act, he has a right to privacy, and he's not here today to give his own account of events. when did you last speak to him? um... as i engaged the lawyerfor him. um... so...he needed independent support. and so that was the last time. how concerned are you about his welfare right now? massively. massively concerned. where did you first meet this young man in question?

what were the circumstances? i was invited by a friend of mine to go to open a drama school. and that's where the picture was taken. um... whether it was immediately or sometime after he said, "will you follow him on twitter? because he's a fan." so i said, "yeah, sure, no problem." which i did. and he was, what, 15 at the time? yeah. and this is over a... but i follow... i follow 11,300 people. and in all the time i've been on twitter, there has never been any whiff of impropriety. and how often were you in touch with him? hardly — hardly at all. he then said that he was interested in television. "ok," you know? "good luck, good luck. anything i can do to help?" probably — that's what i normally say. um... and that was it for a while. and then... ..he... ..asked if he could...

..visit the studios, work—experience type of thing. i said, well, come down and have a look — for sure. which he did. how old was he when he first said to you "i'm interested in television"? was he 18 by that point? 19, then, i would think. 19 by then. when you look back now, if you were to look back at those messages now, is there any sense in which you were flirting with him? no. i've been 41 years in television. you know, nothing like this before — you know, no accusations. i mean, this is... this is all, you know, accusations. and then when you met him in person, was there a little moment of sexual attraction then even? absolutely not. 0k. so to be absolutely clear, how old was this young man when you first had any kind of sexual contact with him? 20. is that when... i mean, this is obviously the nub of it — and for the record,

and to put speculation to rest — let me ask you directly, did you have any kind of sexual relationship or sex with him when he was underage? no — god, no. that... i think that is, you know... in my statement, it says, you know, consensual relationship, fully legal. i mean, that was approved by both sides. you know, that's. .. no, no. he'd been working at the show for...a few months. and... and we'd become mates. we were mates. um, you know, around the studios, you hang out together, you know, you chat to each other, that sort of stuff. and then... ..in my dressing room one day... ..something happened. um... which... ..you know, obviously, iwill... ..regret forever — for him and for me. mostly him.

but it... that happened maybe four or five times over the next few months. and... i know it's. .. ..unforgivable. um... but we weren't boyfriends. we weren't in a relationship. i was really in a mess with my own sexuality at the time. and... ..itjust happened. how old was he at this stage? 20, 21. 0ur arts and media correspondent david sillito is with me now. he has watched the entire interview. let's start where that interview

started with the fragile mental state of phillip schofield. it’s state of phillip schofield. it's hard to watch. _ state of phillip schofield. it�*s hard to watch. fragile, broken, very vulnerable. i can see on the blackness, sadness and remorse ahead of me. this is a man who has clearly struggling. it's hard to watch. there was a moment this morning on british television, is or programme, which is largely avoided the topic of phillip schofield over the last few weeks but presenter was in tears over what she had seen but also since she was struggling about what to think about all of this because it's also an interview that raises a lot of questions. in it's also an interview that raises a lot of questions.— it's also an interview that raises a lot of questions. in terms of those questions. — lot of questions. in terms of those questions, where _ lot of questions. in terms of those questions, where does _ lot of questions. in terms of those questions, where does this - lot of questions. in terms of those questions, where does this lead i lot of questions. in terms of those i questions, where does this lead itv? clearly a long exchange there about his circumstances and all the detail

around that, but what are the fundamental questions for the company itself was to mark what do they have to address? if company itself was to mark what do they have to address?— they have to address? if you take phillip schofield's _ they have to address? if you take phillip schofield's account - they have to address? if you take phillip schofield's account of - they have to address? if you take| phillip schofield's account of what happened, this is a story that begins with a school visit and ends with a sexual encounter with a young man in a dressing room in the studios of this morning. and there has been some form of contact during those years and he has helped phillip schofield, has helped him with his career and give him work experience. the head of the media select committee will be questioning the bosses of itv in just over a week's time, said there are questions here about safeguarding. about abuse of power. this is a man who is the very pinnacle of british television. also, the question of if anyone complained or raised

questions about this workplace complex. itv said they were first aware of rumours in late 2019. they investigated and said both men denied that anything had happened and phillip schofield said, yes, i denied everything and i lied. this is not itv�*s responsibility. i did not tell the truth. there will still be questions about how it could happen. he was also questioned about the rumours out there about where their nondisclosure agreements and payoffs involved. how was the story secret for such a long time? this happened a few years ago. he said there were no nda is and no payoffs. i know of are up and simply the fact that he did not tell the truth about what had actually happened. but itv has an externally led review and investigation going on, and people will know want to know questions about it. you can see in the wider

context of the media industry, is not the first time there have been questions about a very powerful tv figures. people at the top of the broadcasting empire, and they have enormous power. how do they wield it? and do people actually challenging them?- it? and do people actually challenging them? it? and do people actually challenauin them? . ~' ,, challenging them? thank you david sillito. and if you've been affected by any of the issues raised in that interview with phillip schofield, there is a list of organisations which can provide help. it's at the bbc actionline website in toto, that interview will last for 45 minutes or so and is available on the website and will play a longer version of that on the programme in about 30 minutes' time. more coming up unverified life. coming to you with breaking

news from india. 30 people reported to have been killed in a train crash. for coaches of a train have derailed and the ballots or district. that is an eastern state on the bay of bengal, a really serious incident. the reuters news agency reports and its and it is where. also, reports of potentially up where. also, reports of potentially up to around 100 people injured. 0nly up to around 100 people injured. only the briefest of information coming in to us so we will keep an eye on that and return when we get updates. news of a serious train crash there, coming to us from india.

security guards at heathrow airport are two posed 33 new strikes which has been announced by the union, unite, so a long series of strikes have just been announced. 0f unite, so a long series of strikes have just been announced. of course, in the uk, a whole series of industrial relations and strengths going on. we were reported earlier about the train strikes but this coming from heathrow airport as we approach the summer, approach the holiday season and the uptick in the number of people trying to get away. that is a serious concern, or four security guards, that elements of the workforce they are at heathrow airport, a series of 33 fresh strikes in a dispute over pay. i don't know if the exact dates have been announced yet but that is the initial announcement from the union, united. we will keep an eye on that story too and if there is more detail we will return to it. staying in the uk —

let's turn to the latest development regarding material demanded by an inquiry, into the government's handling of covid—19. former prime minister borisjohnson has said he will give his unredacted whatsapp messages dating back to may 2021 directly to the covid inquiry, bypassing the government which has refused to hand them over. yesterday — the cabinet office said it was seeking a judicial review of the demand for messages from the former pm and other officials to be handed over to the inquiry chair. 0ur political correspondent ione wells has the latest from westminster. ., , .., .,. westminster. complicated in the fact that he said he _ westminster. complicated in the fact that he said he is _ westminster. complicated in the fact that he said he is engaging _ westminster. complicated in the fact that he said he is engaging with - westminster. complicated in the fact that he said he is engaging with the i that he said he is engaging with the inquiry and i don't think he has handed over some of the messages get but he intends to and is in discussions about this. he said he is willing to give the inquiry all of the unredacted versions of his what's messages which he has already given to the cabinet office. these

are messages from april 2021 until more recently. they don't include whatsapp messages which the inquiry was after, for the period before that. cobit 19 and the response before that started in 2020, so it's a significant period of time where the messages are not able to be accessed at a moment. the reason borisjohnson has given for that is that the mobile phone he was using before april 20 21 was the one you no longer has access to because his mobile number it was found to have been available online for 15 years, so he was given advice not to turn in that mobile back on for security reasons. he says he has spoken to the cabinet office to try and see if there is a way around that, to access that mobile phone, and give the inquiry the messages from that early. . but as you say, there has been a point of tension with the government and the inquiry over this

matter. the government, only yesterday, launched legal accident against the third or inquiry. they argued they should not be forced to hand over what they describe as unambiguously irrelevant material, which could include private or personal messages exchanged between colleagues. the inquiry feels it is “p colleagues. the inquiry feels it is up to them to decide what material is relevant. borisjohnson's intervention today said he would be happy to and this material over even if the government didn't want to. but the reality is he doesn't actually currently have access to all of it. . . , actually currently have access to all of it. ., .,, ., actually currently have access to allofit. ., ., . , live now to the former conservative mp and attorney general, dominic grieve. your headline thoughts because it has developed over the last few ours. it has developed over the last few ours. . , , has developed over the last few ours. ., , , ., , ours. it has but it remains the basic story — ours. it has but it remains the basic story that _ ours. it has but it remains the basic story that the _ ours. it has but it remains the l basic story that the government ours. it has but it remains the - basic story that the government has decided to judicially review the inquiry in his chair. the government is entitled to do that if it

considers that the chair of the inquiry is acting unreasonably. it's hard to see how the government is going to be successful in this, i must say. although, i can see where the government might think there is aissue the government might think there is a issue of principle that would apply further down the track with other inquiries of this type. i think times of change and the judiciary inquiry don't carry note inquiries would not take on trust what the government says it was supply by way of information and thatis supply by way of information and that is white is asked to see this information to make up their mind. that's the mean because of the story. the issues around boris johnson and his inability to provide some of his telephone messages is a different matter. i'm not in a position to comment on that. he doesn't have access to materials, he can supply. it doesn't have access to materials, he can su -l . , . doesn't have access to materials, he cansu--l. ,., , doesn't have access to materials, he can suwly-— can supply. it is a problem that she's only _ can supply. it is a problem that she's only offering _ can supply. it is a problem that she's only offering up, - can supply. it is a problem that she's only offering up, it - can supply. it is a problem that. she's only offering up, it seems, data and messages after april 2021 given when the bulk of the pandemic actually happened stop clearly, that

must be the case because the material which is likely to be of the greatest interest is that which dates back to the start of the pandemic of and the governments response to it. pandemic of and the governments resnonse to it— response to it. but, as i say, if he doesnt response to it. but, as i say, if he doesn't have _ response to it. but, as i say, if he doesn't have that _ response to it. but, as i say, if he doesn't have that material - response to it. but, as i say, if he. doesn't have that material and that number any more than you can access it then it may be a perfectly valid explanation. alternatively, it may be that the material is achievable. i don't know. as a look though, generally, in terms of the tussle we are seeing. what do you make of it? how would you cut could characterise it? on the one side, the government is saying there are issues of privacy and it is correct to go down the route and clout clarify that, other people are saying it's a lengthy attent to cover up. i think describin: lengthy attent to cover up. i think describing it _ lengthy attent to cover up. i think describing it as _ lengthy attent to cover up. i think describing it as a _ lengthy attent to cover up. i think describing it as a clumsy - lengthy attent to cover up. i think describing it as a clumsy attempt| lengthy attent to cover up. i think. describing it as a clumsy attempt to cover up is being unfair to the government in fairness to it. on the other hand, it's a unique inquiry, covid is an issue has been one of

grave importance and i have absolutely no doubt that the chair of the inquiry can be responsibly with this material and the material thatis with this material and the material that is relevant will not be leach and in the public domain. it's an issue of whether the government is making mountains out of molehills. it's interesting listening to lord seville yesterday saying if it was him and he threw was prevented from doing a full and proper investigation he would consider tendering his resignation to chair and inquiry. i know i'm getting a few stage of the head, does this have the potential to seriously damage what the covid can actually do. because at the heart of it one has to remember it is trying to find out and learn lessons from a pandemic that is the most serious that has event that any of us can remember?— that has event that any of us can remember? , ., ., �* , remember? yes, indeed, and that's wh the remember? yes, indeed, and that's why the inquiry— remember? yes, indeed, and that's why the inquiry was _ remember? yes, indeed, and that's why the inquiry was set _ remember? yes, indeed, and that's why the inquiry was set up - remember? yes, indeed, and that's why the inquiry was set up and - why the inquiry was set up and that's why the chair should be given every facility to carry out

properly. it is why i think the governments approach this is mistaken. the government is entitled to argue that the material that is being asked for is irrelevant but in all. . ~ being asked for is irrelevant but in all. ., ~ , ., being asked for is irrelevant but in all. ., ~' i., ., being asked for is irrelevant but in all. ., ~ ., ., , being asked for is irrelevant but in all. ., ~' ., ., , ., all. thank you for “oining us on the programme. — around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. some to some other stories making news in the uk... a teenagerfrom essex, has been sentenced to a minimum of six years in prison, after pleading guilty to planning terror attacks. 19—year—old matthew king admitted carrying out surveillance at police stations, railway stations, and an british army barracks in london.

after an independent report found he reached the rules. name ellen has been on the public broadcasters governing body since 2010, and has described her new role as a huge honour. a local safety groups as a cheese rolling event puts strain on emergency services. hundreds of people she said she's down a hill on gloucester on monday and people suffered serious injuries during the annual event. the group says emergency services will no longer staff the event until organisers come up with a safety plan. you're live with bbc news the european football authorities, uefa, have charged jose mourinho, with using abusive language against the referee of the europa league final. the manager of the italian club roma, after the match, mourinho was seen approaching the referee, anthony taylor in the car park — over certain decisions made during the match. the abuse didn't stop at the stadium, either. when taylor made his way

through the airport, he and his family, were accosted by fans. the pgmol, that's the group which officiates all premier league matches — a league taylor usually works in, said they're �*appalled at the unjustified and abhorrent abuse'and have offered anthony and his family their full support. the premier league has also supported the official saying it's are shocked and appalled by the abuse. it went on to describe taylor as one of their most experienced and accomplished match officials. let's talk to the current president of the referee's association, paul field. hejudges on the programme. thank you for being here, paul. in terms of that ua for division is it right move? �* , . of that ua for division is it right move? �*, ., , ., of that ua for division is it right move? , ., �*, of that ua for division is it right move? ., , of that ua for division is it right move? ., move? it's a start. it's certainly a start. probably _ move? it's a start. it's certainly a start. probably a _ move? it's a start. it's certainly a start. probably a few— move? it's a start. it's certainly a start. probably a few more - move? it's a start. it's certainly a i start. probably a few more charges that will follow once they have looked at all the all the evidence. the referees match reports, and the

delegates report. let's hope there are a few more.— delegates report. let's hope there are a few more. what did you make of those scenes? — are a few more. what did you make of those scenes? the _ are a few more. what did you make of those scenes? the pictures _ are a few more. what did you make of those scenes? the pictures we - are a few more. what did you make of those scenes? the pictures we were i those scenes? the pictures we were just showing. those scenes? the pictures we were just showing-— just showing. absolutely disgraceful. _ just showing. absolutely disgraceful. it _ just showing. absolutely disgraceful. it too - just showing. absolutely disgraceful. it too what l just showing. absolutely - disgraceful. it too what matchup just showing. absolutely _ disgraceful. it too what matchup he shows in europe have to put up with we can and week out. particularly, and i'm talking really about english football, match officials do have abuse which is unacceptable. we site at manchester united a few weeks ago with for them. so, at manchester united a few weeks ago with forthem. so, hopefully at manchester united a few weeks ago with for them. so, hopefully the general public are starting to see the horrendous abuse match officials suffer weekend week out and i am hoping the football association take some positive steps to eradicate it. i will come to those steps if in a moment and i was talking to keith hackett earlier in the programme and he could see a line between what managers do and what fans do and he was referencing what was happening there at the airport. do you see it

in the same way? is the situation getting worse? we have seen within stadiums altercations between managers and referees for many years now, but is the situation, and your view, getting worse? it now, but is the situation, and your view, getting worse?— view, getting worse? it is. i susect view, getting worse? it is. i suspect there _ view, getting worse? it is. i suspect there is _ view, getting worse? it is. i suspect there is also - view, getting worse? it is. i| suspect there is also greater preponderance of media and media activity. you have 30 cameras cameras around his stadium and social media etc which would bring a bit more to life than it was may be in the 70s and 80s when it was only one camera at the ground. but, i think it's a reflection of society as well. society is less tolerant thanit as well. society is less tolerant than it was probably ten years ago. so, it is getting worse without a doubt. , , ., , . so, it is getting worse without a doubt. , ., , . ,., doubt. just one sentence if you would. keith _ doubt. just one sentence if you would. keith hackett— doubt. just one sentence if you would. keith hackett thought l doubt. just one sentence if you i would. keith hackett thought jose would. keith hackett thoughtjose mourinho should get a ten (, do you think there was in on a clear message? absolutely. second or your

brief, i ask you to brief, so thank you very much, we will watch that story as it develops. jose mourinho i question a referee after the europa league final. we'll be back, don't go away. hello there. the wind flow hasn't changed, but we're seeing more sunshine across the uk today and that's because whilst the winds are still coming in off the north sea, it's drier air that's heading our way from norway and the cloud has been much thinner and has been breaking up more widely. so plenty of sunshine around, feels warm in the sunshine as well. it's still a little cooler right on those north sea coasts because we've got that north—easterly breeze. it's still quite breezy in the south east of england as well. 0vernight, some of that cloud will come back in across some eastern areas of england, and we'll see some patchy cloud in the north of scotland. 0therwise, skies will be clear. it's going to be pretty chilly out there as well. colder than it was last night in england and wales, 11—5 celsius,

perhaps even lower than that in north—east england and south—east scotland. there'll be some cloud around from overnight first thing, it'll burn off again and we'll see lengthy spells of sunshine, bit of fairweather cloud bubbling up over the high ground in scotland and across some southern parts of england as well. but a fine day, temperatures may be a little bit higher widely, up to 20 to 22 degrees. again, cooler around some of those north sea coasts, but a pleasant day nonetheless. and sunshine far and wide, and it's high uv levels as well. we've still got high pressure in charge right the way through the weekend. there it is — centred to the north—west of the uk. there's a lot of cloud in that, and that cloud is going to run across northern scotland and then push back down across the north sea into some eastern areas of england overnight into sunday morning. so a bit more cloud around. it will retreat back to those north sea coasts, but it could stay cloudy in a few more places. otherwise, a lot of sunshine around. dry day as well. warmest out towards the west. temperatures reaching 23 or 2a degrees, but a lovely weekend for many parts of the country,

and high pressure isn't going anywhere really at all next week. still got some blustery winds through the english channel and the south—east of england. otherwise, the winds will be light. this cloud that we start with across the midlands and eastern england, burning back to some of those north sea coasts. sunshine developing across more of the country, and those temperatures climbing up to 23 or 2a degrees or so. so this weather pattern is still with us and it's not changing at all through next week. high pressure will be dominant, staying dry. there will be some areas of cloud around. west is going to be best in terms of sunshine and also the highest temperatures.

this is bbc news, the headlines. former british tv star, phillip schofield tells the bbc — homophobia has fuelled the coverage of his workplace relationship— after he admitted to lying about an affair. what was unwise was the fact that it happened, and that was a very, very grave error. now it was consensual, but it was my fault. to india, at least 30 people have died as four coaches of the coromandel express train derailed in the 0disha's balasore district.

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