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be done in a bipartisan fashion to be done in a bipartisan fashion and they were able to avert this default. i think after this you will see him shift that tone, i can be a leader that does by person deals because of course he's always looking to come after this it will start to wrap up in terms of his 2024 campaign. start to wrap up in terms of his 2024 campaign-— start to wrap up in terms of his 2024 campaign. start to wrap up in terms of his 2024 camaiun. ., ., i. ,�* 2024 campaign. how about you, you're sittin: here 2024 campaign. how about you, you're sitting here on — 2024 campaign. how about you, you're sitting here on the _ 2024 campaign. how about you, you're sitting here on the republican - 2024 campaign. how about you, you're sitting here on the republican side, - sitting here on the republican side, what if you make of this events leading up to the steel and the way president biden has handled these negotiations —— deal. l president biden has handled these negotiations -- deal.— negotiations -- deal. i think the resident negotiations -- deal. i think the president is _ negotiations -- deal. i think the president is trying _ negotiations -- deal. i think the president is trying to _ negotiations -- deal. i think the president is trying to to - negotiations -- deal. i think the president is trying to to find - president is trying to to find victory in _ president is trying to to find victory in the moment but he is trying _ victory in the moment but he is trying to— victory in the moment but he is trying to remind everyone or have everyone — trying to remind everyone or have everyone forget that he negotiated on this_ everyone forget that he negotiated on this debt ceiling.— on this debt ceiling. something he said he would _ on this debt ceiling. something he said he would not _ on this debt ceiling. something he said he would not do. _ on this debt ceiling. something he said he would not do. something i on this debt ceiling. something he i said he would not do. something he would not do _ said he would not do. something he would not do in _ said he would not do. something he would not do in the _ said he would not do. something he would not do in the democratic - said he would not do. something he| would not do in the democratic party and adamant that she should not do so from _ and adamant that she should not do so from that standpoint he's set up the next _ so from that standpoint he's set up the next negotiation that he's going to blink_ the next negotiation that he's going to blink so — the next negotiation that he's going to blink so for the first time in a long time — to blink so for the first time in a long time kevin mccarthy has some strength— long time kevin mccarthy has some strength her —— behind him in terms of negotiations with the admonition because _ of negotiations with the admonition because if— of negotiations with the admonition because if you find in —— follow the
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patterns _ because if you find in —— follow the patterns of biden it is always a pattern — patterns of biden it is always a pattern of weakness.— patterns of biden it is always a pattern of weakness. what have you seen in terms _ pattern of weakness. what have you seen in terms of _ pattern of weakness. what have you seen in terms of your _ pattern of weakness. what have you seen in terms of your experience - pattern of weakness. what have you seen in terms of your experience in | seen in terms of your experience in your types of negotiations and when it gets to a person battle it looks like, if you're taking the broader view —— partisan. that this did get a lot of democratic and republican votes. ., , , ,, a lot of democratic and republican votes. ., , , , ., votes. honestly this is a win for both kevin _ votes. honestly this is a win for both kevin mccarthy _ votes. honestly this is a win for both kevin mccarthy in - votes. honestly this is a win for both kevin mccarthy in showingl votes. honestly this is a win for - both kevin mccarthy in showing where he is in _ both kevin mccarthy in showing where he is in his— both kevin mccarthy in showing where he is in his progress— both kevin mccarthy in showing where he is in his progress and _ both kevin mccarthy in showing where he is in his progress and not— both kevin mccarthy in showing where he is in his progress and not being - he is in his progress and not being misled _ he is in his progress and not being misled by— he is in his progress and not being misled by the _ he is in his progress and not being misled by the freedom _ he is in his progress and not being misled by the freedom caucus - he is in his progress and not being - misled by the freedom caucus in some of the _ misled by the freedom caucus in some of the more _ misled by the freedom caucus in some of the more extremist _ misled by the freedom caucus in some of the more extremist and _ misled by the freedom caucus in some of the more extremist and his - misled by the freedom caucus in some of the more extremist and his party. of the more extremist and his party but also _ of the more extremist and his party but also president _ of the more extremist and his party but also president biden _ of the more extremist and his party but also president biden who - of the more extremist and his party but also president biden who has i but also president biden who has stood _ but also president biden who has stood for— but also president biden who has stood for on _ but also president biden who has stood for on being _ but also president biden who has stood for on being a _ but also president biden who has stood for on being a bipartisan. stood for on being a bipartisan negotiator— stood for on being a bipartisan negotiator throughout- stood for on being a bipartisan negotiator throughout his - stood for on being a bipartisan. negotiator throughout his tenure. not only— negotiator throughout his tenure. not only as — negotiator throughout his tenure. not only as president _ negotiator throughout his tenure. not only as president but - negotiator throughout his tenure. not only as president but also - negotiator throughout his tenure. not only as president but also as| not only as president but also as vice president _ not only as president but also as vice president under— not only as president but also as vice president under barack- not only as president but also as . vice president under barack obama and during — vice president under barack obama and during his— vice president under barack obama and during his time _ vice president under barack obama and during his time in _ vice president under barack obama and during his time in the - vice president under barack obama and during his time in the senate. i and during his time in the senate. this was— and during his time in the senate. this was a — and during his time in the senate. this was a time _ and during his time in the senate. this was a time in _ and during his time in the senate. this was a time in which _ and during his time in the senate. this was a time in which we - and during his time in the senate. this was a time in which we knowl this was a time in which we know that we _ this was a time in which we know that we have _ this was a time in which we know that we have a _ this was a time in which we know that we have a highly— this was a time in which we know that we have a highly partisan - that we have a highly partisan environment, _ that we have a highly partisan environment, highly- that we have a highly partisan environment, highly divisive i environment, highly divisive government— environment, highly divisive government but— environment, highly divisive government but also - environment, highly divisive government but also people environment, highly divisive - government but also people who understand — government but also people who understand the _ government but also people who understand the threat _ government but also people who understand the threat of- government but also people who i understand the threat of defaulting on our— understand the threat of defaulting on our responsibilities _ understand the threat of defaulting on our responsibilities actually- on our responsibilities actually needs— on our responsibilities actually needs the _ on our responsibilities actually needs the american _ on our responsibilities actually needs the american economy. l on our responsibilities actually- needs the american economy. global economy _ needs the american economy. global
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economy so — needs the american economy. global economy so i — needs the american economy. global economy. 50 i think— needs the american economy. global economy. 50 i think that _ needs the american economy. global economy. 50 i think that coming - needs the american economy. global economy. 50 i think that coming into| economy. 50 i think that coming into this and _ economy. 50 i think that coming into this and coming _ economy. 50 i think that coming into this and coming into _ economy. 50 i think that coming into this and coming into these _ this and coming into these negotiations— this and coming into these negotiations president - this and coming into these . negotiations president biden this and coming into these - negotiations president biden knew that they— negotiations president biden knew that they were _ negotiations president biden knew that they were going _ negotiations president biden knew that they were going to _ negotiations president biden knew that they were going to be - negotiations president biden knew that they were going to be some l negotiations president biden knew. that they were going to be some wins and there _ that they were going to be some wins and there will— that they were going to be some wins and there will be _ that they were going to be some wins and there will be some _ that they were going to be some wins and there will be some losses - that they were going to be some wins and there will be some losses and - and there will be some losses and everyone — and there will be some losses and everyone was _ and there will be some losses and everyone was not— and there will be some losses and everyone was not going _ and there will be some losses and everyone was not going to - and there will be some losses and everyone was not going to be - and there will be some losses and i everyone was not going to be happy. he has— everyone was not going to be happy. he has been— everyone was not going to be happy. he has been at— everyone was not going to be happy. he has been at the _ everyone was not going to be happy. he has been at the table _ everyone was not going to be happy. he has been at the table before. - everyone was not going to be happy. he has been at the table before. hel he has been at the table before. he has been _ he has been at the table before. he has been the — he has been at the table before. he has been the negotiator— he has been at the table before. he has been the negotiator more - he has been at the table before. he has been the negotiator more thanl has been the negotiator more than a few times _ has been the negotiator more than a few times and — has been the negotiator more than a few times and i_ has been the negotiator more than a few times. and i think— has been the negotiator more than a few times. and i think that - has been the negotiator more than a few times. and i think that this - has been the negotiator more than a few times. and i think that this is . few times. and i think that this is his victory lap _ few times. and i think that this is his victory lap. he _ few times. and i think that this is his victory lap. he did _ few times. and i think that this is his victory lap. he did not- few times. and i think that this is his victory lap. he did not to - his victory lap. he did not to chastise _ his victory lap. he did not to chastise republicans- his victory lap. he did not to chastise republicans in- his victory lap. he did not to i chastise republicans in media his victory lap. he did not to - chastise republicans in media and i think that _ chastise republicans in media and i think that was — chastise republicans in media and i think that was more _ chastise republicans in media and i think that was more on _ chastise republicans in media and i think that was more on his - chastise republicans in media and i think that was more on his part - think that was more on his part because — think that was more on his part because he's— think that was more on his part because he's going _ think that was more on his part because he's going to- think that was more on his part because he's going to have - think that was more on his part because he's going to have to. think that was more on his part - because he's going to have to come and work— because he's going to have to come and work with — because he's going to have to come and work with them _ because he's going to have to come and work with them again. - because he's going to have to come and work with them again. this - because he's going to have to come and work with them again. this is l because he's going to have to come and work with them again. this is a | and work with them again. this is a president— and work with them again. this is a president who _ and work with them again. this is a president who has _ and work with them again. this is a president who has got _ and work with them again. this is a president who has got a _ and work with them again. this is a president who has got a bipartisanl president who has got a bipartisan infrastructure _ president who has got a bipartisan infrastructure package _ president who has got a bipartisan infrastructure package passed, - president who has got a bipartisan infrastructure package passed, i. infrastructure package passed, i present— infrastructure package passed, i present his _ infrastructure package passed, i present his work _ infrastructure package passed, i present his work strategically. present his work strategically within— present his work strategically within the _ present his work strategically within the house _ present his work strategically within the house or— present his work strategically within the house or getting . present his work strategically- within the house or getting house members — within the house or getting house members to— within the house or getting house members to buy— within the house or getting house members to buy in _ within the house or getting house members to buy in for— within the house or getting house members to buy in for a - within the house or getting house members to buy in for a lot- within the house or getting house members to buy in for a lot of. members to buy in for a lot of things— members to buy in for a lot of things that _ members to buy in for a lot of things that many _ members to buy in for a lot of things that many republicans| members to buy in for a lot of- things that many republicans across country _ things that many republicans across country specifically _ things that many republicans across country specifically the _ things that many republicans across country specifically the culture - things that many republicans across country specifically the culture war. country specifically the culture war it leading — country specifically the culture war it leading ones _ country specifically the culture war it leading ones did _ country specifically the culture war it leading ones did not— country specifically the culture war it leading ones did not accept. - country specifically the culture war it leading ones did not accept. it . it leading ones did not accept. it shows— it leading ones did not accept. it shows us— it leading ones did not accept. it shows us something _ it leading ones did not accept. it shows us something about - it leading ones did not accept. it - shows us something about president biden— shows us something about president biden temperament— shows us something about president biden temperament also _ shows us something about president biden temperament also showing. shows us something about president. biden temperament also showing that he learned _ biden temperament also showing that he learned a _ biden temperament also showing that he learned a lot— biden temperament also showing that he learned a lot not _ biden temperament also showing that he learned a lot not only _ biden temperament also showing that he learned a lot not only as _ biden temperament also showing that he learned a lot not only as a - he learned a lot not only as a senator — he learned a lot not only as a senator for— he learned a lot not only as a senator for multiple - he learned a lot not only as a senator for multiple decades| he learned a lot not only as a - senator for multiple decades else during _ senator for multiple decades else during his — senator for multiple decades else during his time _ senator for multiple decades else during his time again— senator for multiple decades else during his time again when - senator for multiple decades else i during his time again when former president — during his time again when former president obama. _ during his time again when former president obama. he's _ during his time again when former president obama. he's utilising i during his time again when former| president obama. he's utilising all of that— president obama. he's utilising all of that to — president obama. he's utilising all of that to ensure _ president obama. he's utilising all of that to ensure that _ president obama. he's utilising all of that to ensure that america - president obama. he's utilising all of that to ensure that america is l of that to ensure that america is the best— of that to ensure that america is the best path— of that to ensure that america is the best path forward. _ of that to ensure that america is the best path forward. and - of that to ensure that america is the best path forward. and thati of that to ensure that america is i the best path forward. and that our economy— the best path forward. and that our economy does _ the best path forward. and that our economy does not _ the best path forward. and that our economy does not fall _ the best path forward. and that our economy does not fall into - the best path forward. and that our. economy does not fall into shambles. ithink— economy does not fall into shambles. i think that _ economy does not fall into shambles. i think that is — economy does not fall into shambles. i think that is important _ economy does not fall into shambles. i think that is important thing. - economy does not fall into shambles. i think that is important thing. i- i think that is important thing. i
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want i think that is important thing. want tojump in here because i think that is important thing.“ want tojump in here because as i think that is important thing]. want tojump in here because as a want to jump in here because as a form of communication analysts what you make of him delivering this address from the oval office, his first address, a friday night, what can we read into the messaging in the circumstances here? we can we read into the messaging in the circumstances here?— the circumstances here? we all know that 2024 is — the circumstances here? we all know that 2024 is just — the circumstances here? we all know that 2024 isjust around _ the circumstances here? we all know that 2024 isjust around the - the circumstances here? we all know that 2024 isjust around the corner. | that 2024 is just around the corner. we are _ that 2024 is just around the corner. we are seeing— that 2024 is just around the corner. we are seeing that _ that 2024 is just around the corner. we are seeing that the _ that 2024 is just around the corner. we are seeing that the republicans| we are seeing that the republicans are having — we are seeing that the republicans are having more _ we are seeing that the republicans are having more and _ we are seeing that the republicans are having more and more - we are seeing that the republicans| are having more and more entrance we are seeing that the republicans . are having more and more entrance it seems _ are having more and more entrance it seems at _ are having more and more entrance it seems at this— are having more and more entrance it seems at this point— are having more and more entrance it seems at this point every— are having more and more entrance it seems at this point every other - are having more and more entrance it seems at this point every other day. i seems at this point every other day. but for— seems at this point every other day. but forjoe _ seems at this point every other day. but forjoe biden— seems at this point every other day. but forjoe biden he _ seems at this point every other day. but forjoe biden he is— seems at this point every other day. but forjoe biden he is the front - but forjoe biden he is the front runnen — but forjoe biden he is the front runnen he _ but forjoe biden he is the front runnen he is— but forjoe biden he is the front runner. he is going _ but forjoe biden he is the front runner. he is going to - but forjoe biden he is the front runner. he is going to coast - but forjoe biden he is the front - runner. he is going to coast through the primaries — runner. he is going to coast through the primaries. he— runner. he is going to coast through the primaries. he is— runner. he is going to coast through the primaries. he is someone - runner. he is going to coast through the primaries. he is someone who l the primaries. he is someone who acknowledges _ the primaries. he is someone who acknowledges that— the primaries. he is someone who acknowledges that this _ the primaries. he is someone who acknowledges that this was - the primaries. he is someone who acknowledges that this was a - acknowledges that this was a hard-fought _ acknowledges that this was a hard—fought victory. - acknowledges that this was a hard—fought victory. but - acknowledges that this was a hard—fought victory. but he l acknowledges that this was a | hard—fought victory. but he is acknowledges that this was a - hard—fought victory. but he is also someone — hard—fought victory. but he is also someone who— hard—fought victory. but he is also someone who does _ hard—fought victory. but he is also someone who does not _ hard—fought victory. but he is also someone who does not ignore - hard—fought victory. but he is also someone who does not ignore the | someone who does not ignore the polling _ someone who does not ignore the polling stuff— someone who does not ignore the polling stuff he _ someone who does not ignore the polling stuff he knows _ someone who does not ignore the polling stuff he knows what - someone who does not ignore the polling stuff he knows what is - polling stuff he knows what is happening _ polling stuff he knows what is happening on _ polling stuff he knows what is happening on here _ polling stuff he knows what is happening on here and - polling stuff he knows what is happening on here and he - polling stuff he knows what is i happening on here and he knows polling stuff he knows what is - happening on here and he knows that he is tell— happening on here and he knows that he is tell the — happening on here and he knows that he is tell the story _ happening on here and he knows that he is tell the story himself. _ he is tell the story himself. frankly. _ he is tell the story himself. frankly. i— he is tell the story himself. frankly, i think— he is tell the story himself. frankly, i think the - he is tell the story himself. frankly, i think the media i he is tell the story himself. i frankly, i think the media was he is tell the story himself. - frankly, i think the media was so enthralled — frankly, i think the media was so enthralled by— frankly, i think the media was so enthralled by the _ frankly, i think the media was so enthralled by the chaos - frankly, i think the media was so enthralled by the chaos of - frankly, i think the media was so enthralled by the chaos of the . enthralled by the chaos of the previous— enthralled by the chaos of the previous ministration - enthralled by the chaos of the previous ministration and - enthralled by the chaos of the . previous ministration and having enthralled by the chaos of the - previous ministration and having a normal— previous ministration and having a normal ministration— previous ministration and having a normal ministration is _ previous ministration and having a normal ministration is actually- previous ministration and having ai normal ministration is actually hard to cover~ _ normal ministration is actually hard to cover. someone _ normal ministration is actually hard to cover. someone who _ normal ministration is actually hard to cover. someone who how- normal ministration is actually hard to cover. someone who how to - normal ministration is actually hard i to cover. someone who how to govern is hard _ to cover. someone who how to govern is hard to— to cover. someone who how to govern is hard to cover~ — to cover. someone who how to govern is hard to cover~ so— to cover. someone who how to govern is hard to cover. 50 he _ to cover. someone who how to govern is hard to cover. 50 he has— to cover. someone who how to govern is hard to cover. 50 he has to - is hard to cover. 50 he has to tell his own _ is hard to cover. 50 he has to tell his own sword _ is hard to cover. 50 he has to tell his own sword. yes _ is hard to cover. 50 he has to tell his own sword. yes until- is hard to cover. 50 he has to tell his own sword. yes until the - his own sword. yes until the american _ his own sword. yes until the american people _ his own sword. yes until the american people why - his own sword. yes until the american people why this i his own sword. yes until the . american people why this debt his own sword. yes until the - american people why this debt deal was important. _ american people why this debt deal was important, why— american people why this debt deal was important, why did _ american people why this debt deal was important, why did the - american people why this debt deal was important, why did the budgetl was important, why did the budget deal was _ was important, why did the budget deal was important _ was important, why did the budget deal was important and _ was important, why did the budget deal was important and what - was important, why did the budget deal was important and what it - was important, why did the budget. deal was important and what it means for the _ deal was important and what it means for the future — deal was important and what it means for the future. and _ deal was important and what it means for the future. and i— deal was important and what it means for the future. and i think— deal was important and what it means for the future. and i think he - deal was important and what it means for the future. and i think he is- for the future. and i think he is going _ for the future. and i think he is going to — for the future. and i think he is going to take _ for the future. and i think he is going to take that _ for the future. and i think he is going to take that narrative - for the future. and i think he is| going to take that narrative and going to — going to take that narrative and going to bring _ going to take that narrative and going to bring it— going to take that narrative and
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going to bring it forward - going to take that narrative and going to bring it forward to - going to take that narrative and going to bring it forward to thatj going to bring it forward to that people who _ going to bring it forward to that people who matter, _ going to bring it forward to that people who matter, the - going to bring it forward to that . people who matter, the american voters _ people who matter, the american voters. ., ., ., ., voters. you were a part of that last administration _ voters. you were a part of that last administration in _ voters. you were a part of that last administration in terms _ voters. you were a part of that last administration in terms of - voters. you were a part of that last administration in terms of the - administration in terms of the transition team. what you make of that in terms of taking something that in terms of taking something thatis that in terms of taking something that is really on the face of it, a very pretty boring, political that is really on the face of it, a very pretty boring, political deal. this is debt very pretty boring, political deal. this is debt ceiling. very pretty boring, political deal. this is debt ceiling. is this something that you can think of bringing to the american people and competing with friday night programming or begin plans to stop how do you think the public sees this? ~ , how do you think the public sees this? ~' , , , ., , this? i think they see this as a fraud. this? i think they see this as a fraud- you _ this? i think they see this as a fraud. you did _ this? i think they see this as a fraud. you did the _ this? i think they see this as a fraud. you did the bare - this? i think they see this as a i fraud. you did the bare minimum this? i think they see this as a - fraud. you did the bare minimum of youriob _ fraud. you did the bare minimum of youriob you — fraud. you did the bare minimum of yourjob. you have spent all of the money— yourjob. you have spent all of the money for— yourjob. you have spent all of the money for the past year, he spent so much _ money for the past year, he spent so much that— money for the past year, he spent so much that we now need to increase limit and _ much that we now need to increase limit and we — much that we now need to increase limit and we have to fight about this _ limit and we have to fight about this this— limit and we have to fight about this. this has been the cycle before trump _ this. this has been the cycle before trump this — this. this has been the cycle before trump. this is been the way injoe biden— trump. this is been the way injoe biden got— trump. this is been the way injoe biden got it — trump. this is been the way injoe biden got it settled just like every other— biden got it settled just like every other president had done before him but it— other president had done before him but it also— other president had done before him but it also showed that when you negotiate — but it also showed that when you negotiate him you can get him to play _ negotiate him you can get him to play you — negotiate him you can get him to play. you can get him to capitulate you can _ play. you can get him to capitulate you can get — play. you can get him to capitulate you can get them to where he says i'm not— you can get them to where he says i'm not going to negotiate, with terrorist — i'm not going to negotiate, with terrorist that became the radical and that—
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terrorist that became the radical and that he negotiated. he terrorist that became the radical and that he negotiated.- terrorist that became the radical and that he negotiated. he did not have a whole _ and that he negotiated. he did not have a whole lot _ and that he negotiated. he did not have a whole lot right _ and that he negotiated. he did not have a whole lot right to _ and that he negotiated. he did not have a whole lot right to negotiate office that he did not hold all of the cards. he office that he did not hold all of the cards. ., , , office that he did not hold all of the cards-— office that he did not hold all of the cards. ., , , the cards. he absolutely held the cards. republicans _ the cards. he absolutely held the cards. republicans always - the cards. he absolutely held the cards. republicans always get. the cards. he absolutely held the - cards. republicans always get blamed in a debt— cards. republicans always get blamed in a debt ceiling fight. they never win these — in a debt ceiling fight. they never win these fights. so biden at the structural— win these fights. so biden at the structural advantage and he still blinked — structural advantage and he still blinked. it is a characteristic of him _ blinked. it is a characteristic of him that— blinked. it is a characteristic of him that is— blinked. it is a characteristic of him that is going to up your time in and out— him that is going to up your time in and out not— him that is going to up your time in and out not in only domestic policy but for— and out not in only domestic policy but for them. and out not in only domestic policy but for them-— but for them. your take on bite and eseciall but for them. your take on bite and especially his _ but for them. your take on bite and especially his negotiations - but for them. your take on bite and especially his negotiations as - but for them. your take on bite and especially his negotiations as well. especially his negotiations as well because we were talking on this earlier, he left a big trip early from asia and made a lot of phone calls with mccarthy what world you think he played in the negotiations himself? i think he played in the negotiations himself? ~' ., think he played in the negotiations himself? ~ ., , ., himself? i think to your point, caettin himself? i think to your point, getting biden _ himself? i think to your point, getting biden to _ himself? i think to your point, getting biden to the _ himself? i think to your point, getting biden to the table - himself? i think to your point, getting biden to the table wasj himself? i think to your point, - getting biden to the table was the victory that kevin mccarthy is able to really count. the pivotal moment for the speaker was when he was able to pass that bill in the house that know when dreams would ever become the bill that would raise the debt ceiling but gave him the leverage to say to biden, look i have my conference in order, they are behind me, i need you to come to the table.
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when you look at the actual agreement... i would state it is conservative in terms of physical spending but the white house definitely had some wins is that i never republicans do what to talk they were able to get work requirements will stop looking at something like snap, food stamps, the work requirements were raised but democratic negotiators, they got was something expanded for the most vulnerable in society whether it's veterans or homeless and actually will cost more. so there are nuances to the deal that i think everyone is able to go back and touted these wins. i able to go back and touted these wins. ,., able to go back and touted these wins. , ., able to go back and touted these wins. i. ., wins. i saw you laughing there when she mentioned _ wins. i saw you laughing there when she mentioned this _ wins. i saw you laughing there when she mentioned this deal. _ wins. i saw you laughing there when she mentioned this deal. are - wins. i saw you laughing there when she mentioned this deal. are you i she mentioned this deal. are you happy as a republican with what the republicans were able to get out of this? , , ., , , , , this? this is horse full debris gets this? this is horse full debris gets this process _ this? this is horse full debris gets this process they _ this? this is horse full debris gets this process they have _ this? this is horse full debris gets this process they have a _ this? this is horse full debris gets this process they have a lot - this? this is horse full debris gets this process they have a lot of- this process they have a lot of horse — this process they have a lot of horse trading. the democrats have their prioritiesjoe biden is having a press _ their prioritiesjoe biden is having a press conference in the oval office — a press conference in the oval office were here you will not take any questions come his priority was matt and _ any questions come his priority was matt and kevin mccarthy can say i put caucus — matt and kevin mccarthy can say i put caucus under order. everyone walks _ put caucus under order. everyone walks away— put caucus under order. everyone walks away with a win and with the
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exception — walks away with a win and with the exception of the american people. who are _ exception of the american people. who are nazi that increases, spending increases, the burden of hi-h spending increases, the burden of high inflation where we talk about spending — high inflation where we talk about spending hurting future generations we are _ spending hurting future generations we are nothing spending her and current— we are nothing spending her and current inflations, high interest rates, — current inflations, high interest rates, high mortgages, hike or car payment _ rates, high mortgages, hike or car payment so — rates, high mortgages, hike or car payment so we have now hit the spending — payment so we have now hit the spending curve, the and in it will hit us every— spending curve, the and in it will hit us every time now and that is not of— hit us every time now and that is not of the — hit us every time now and that is not of the american people but washington gets to claim victory on a friday— washington gets to claim victory on a friday night. in washington gets to claim victory on a friday night-— a friday night. in “ust a few moments h a friday night. in just a few moments president - a friday night. in just a few moments president biden i a friday night. in just a few. moments president biden will a friday night. in just a few— moments president biden will address the american people, the first from the american people, the first from the oval office and we will expect some prepared remarks from him to will be listing the debt ceiling for the next couple of years. i want to come back to you because you mentioned looking forward to that 2024 election. how much do you think president biden is looking ahead now and how much do you think that this particular loan addresses and may be meant to change the narrative. just yesterday we were watching footage
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of an unfortunate fall on stage, biden has not had the greatest number of numbers in approval rating. is this being seen in the ministration is something that they can go out and tell him bring straight to the american public and say look, we got this done. i trip down the stairs _ say look, we got this done. i trip down the stairs today. _ say look, we got this done. i trip down the stairs today. joe - say look, we got this done. i trip down the stairs today. joe biden tripped — down the stairs today. joe biden tripped over— down the stairs today. joe biden tripped over a _ down the stairs today. joe biden tripped over a standby. - down the stairs today. joe biden tripped over a standby. the - down the stairs today. joe biden i tripped over a standby. the media down the stairs today. joe biden - tripped over a standby. the media is making _ tripped over a standby. the media is making up— tripped over a standby. the media is making up more— tripped over a standby. the media is making up more hubbub_ tripped over a standby. the media is making up more hubbub on- tripped over a standby. the media is making up more hubbub on this - tripped over a standby. the media is| making up more hubbub on this thing needs— making up more hubbub on this thing needs to be _ making up more hubbub on this thing needs to be had. _ making up more hubbub on this thing needs to be had. this _ making up more hubbub on this thing needs to be had. this is _ making up more hubbub on this thing needs to be had. this is a _ needs to be had. this is a president who has— needs to be had. this is a president who has a _ needs to be had. this is a president who has a record _ needs to be had. this is a president who has a record to _ needs to be had. this is a president who has a record to run— needs to be had. this is a president who has a record to run off. - needs to be had. this is a president who has a record to run off. he - needs to be had. this is a president who has a record to run off. he has| who has a record to run off. he has a record _ who has a record to run off. he has a record of— who has a record to run off. he has a record of infrastructure _ who has a record to run off. he has a record of infrastructure plan - who has a record to run off. he has a record of infrastructure plan andi a record of infrastructure plan and that multitrillion_ a record of infrastructure plan and that multitrillion dollar— a record of infrastructure plan andl that multitrillion dollar investment deal that— that multitrillion dollar investment deal that puts _ that multitrillion dollar investment deal that puts americans - that multitrillion dollar investment deal that puts americans to - that multitrillion dollar investment deal that puts americans to work i that multitrillion dollar investment . deal that puts americans to work but also secure _ deal that puts americans to work but also secure our— deal that puts americans to work but also secure our roads, _ deal that puts americans to work but also secure our roads, rails- deal that puts americans to work but also secure our roads, rails and - also secure our roads, rails and bridges — also secure our roads, rails and bridges for— also secure our roads, rails and bridges for generations - also secure our roads, rails and bridges for generations couples appear— bridges for generations couples appear and _ bridges for generations couples appear and economic— bridges for generations couples - appear and economic development, structure _ appear and economic development, structure that — appear and economic development, structure that is _ appear and economic development, structure that is quite _ appear and economic development, structure that is quite frankly - structure that is quite frankly blowing — structure that is quite frankly blowing away _ structure that is quite frankly blowing away a _ structure that is quite frankly blowing away a lot _ structure that is quite frankly blowing away a lot of- structure that is quite frankly blowing away a lot of the - blowing away a lot of the prognosticators - blowing away a lot of the prognosticators who - blowing away a lot of the - prognosticators who thought america's_ prognosticators who thought america'sjobs_ prognosticators who thought america'sjobs would - prognosticators who thought america's jobs would not. prognosticators who thought america'sjobs would not be| prognosticators who thought - america'sjobs would not be increase was up _ america'sjobs would not be increase was up we _ america'sjobs would not be increase was up we are — america'sjobs would not be increase was up we are seeing— america'sjobs would not be increase was up we are seeing those - america'sjobs would not be increase was up we are seeing those job - was up we are seeing those job numbers— was up we are seeing those job numbers every— was up we are seeing those job numbers every day. _ was up we are seeing those job numbers every day. we - was up we are seeing those job numbers every day. we are - was up we are seeing those job i numbers every day. we are seeing was up we are seeing those job - numbers every day. we are seeing an economy— numbers every day. we are seeing an economy that — numbers every day. we are seeing an economy that is — numbers every day. we are seeing an economy that is bolstered. _ numbers every day. we are seeing an economy that is bolstered. one - numbers every day. we are seeing an economy that is bolstered. one that. economy that is bolstered. one that was driven— economy that is bolstered. one that was driven in— economy that is bolstered. one that was driven in large _ economy that is bolstered. one that was driven in large part _ economy that is bolstered. one that was driven in large part due - economy that is bolstered. one that was driven in large part due to - economy that is bolstered. one that was driven in large part due to his. was driven in large part due to his pandemic— was driven in large part due to his pandemic relief— was driven in large part due to his pandemic relief but _ was driven in large part due to his pandemic relief but also - was driven in large part due to his pandemic relief but also things i pandemic relief but also things like the chips _ pandemic relief but also things like the chips act — pandemic relief but also things like the chips act where _ pandemic relief but also things like the chips act where he _ pandemic relief but also things like the chips act where he is _ pandemic relief but also things like the chips act where he is bringing l
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the chips act where he is bringing development _ the chips act where he is bringing development and _ the chips act where he is bringing development and factory- the chips act where he is bringing development and factory work. the chips act where he is bringing l development and factory work back the chips act where he is bringing - development and factory work back to the united _ development and factory work back to the united states, _ development and factory work back to the united states, where _ development and factory work back to the united states, where made - development and factory work back to the united states, where made in - the united states, where made in america — the united states, where made in america is— the united states, where made in america is actually— the united states, where made in america is actually going - the united states, where made in america is actually going to - the united states, where made in america is actually going to be i america is actually going to be something _ america is actually going to be something that _ america is actually going to be something that is _ america is actually going to be something that is not - america is actually going to be something that is not which i america is actually going to be something that is not which is| america is actually going to be - something that is not which is what my grandfather _ something that is not which is what my grandfather would _ something that is not which is what my grandfather would say- something that is not which is what my grandfather would say and - something that is not which is what my grandfather would say and be . something that is not which is what i my grandfather would say and be true but something — my grandfather would say and be true but something i— my grandfather would say and be true but something i can _ my grandfather would say and be true but something i can say, _ but something i can say, something my future _ but something i can say, something my future kids — but something i can say, something my future kids can _ but something i can say, something my future kids can say— but something i can say, something my future kids can say because - but something i can say, something my future kids can say because we i my future kids can say because we can buy— my future kids can say because we can buy products— my future kids can say because we can buy products that _ my future kids can say because we can buy products that are - my future kids can say because we | can buy products that are reflected and made — can buy products that are reflected and made in — can buy products that are reflected and made in this— can buy products that are reflected and made in this country. - can buy products that are reflected and made in this country. i- can buy products that are reflected and made in this country. i think. and made in this country. i think with— and made in this country. i think with this — and made in this country. i think with this initiation there - and made in this country. i think with this initiation there is - and made in this country. i think with this initiation there is a - and made in this country. i think with this initiation there is a loti with this initiation there is a lot the president _ with this initiation there is a lot the president contact _ with this initiation there is a lot the president contact in - with this initiation there is a lot the president contact in one . with this initiation there is a lot the president contact in one of| the president contact in one of those victories _ the president contact in one of those victories is _ the president contact in one of those victories is this - the president contact in one of those victories is this budget l the president contact in one of- those victories is this budget deal. a budget _ those victories is this budget deal. a budget the — those victories is this budget deal. a budget the as— those victories is this budget deal. a budget the as was _ those victories is this budget deal. a budget the as was stated, - those victories is this budget deal. a budget the as was stated, was l those victories is this budget deal. . a budget the as was stated, was one definitely— a budget the as was stated, was one definitely did — a budget the as was stated, was one definitely did have _ a budget the as was stated, was one definitely did have to _ a budget the as was stated, was one definitely did have to come - a budget the as was stated, was one definitely did have to come requiredl definitely did have to come required a lot of— definitely did have to come required a lot of negotiation. _ definitely did have to come required a lot of negotiation. some - definitely did have to come required a lot of negotiation. some wichmanj a lot of negotiation. some wichman people _ a lot of negotiation. some wichman people in_ a lot of negotiation. some wichman people in the — a lot of negotiation. some wichman people in the far— a lot of negotiation. some wichman people in the far left _ a lot of negotiation. some wichman people in the far left are _ a lot of negotiation. some wichman people in the far left are upset - people in the far left are upset about — people in the far left are upset about there _ people in the far left are upset about. there are _ people in the far left are upset about. there are some - people in the far left are upset . about. there are some members people in the far left are upset - about. there are some members who have been— about. there are some members who have been very— about. there are some members who have been very vocal _ about. there are some members who have been very vocal in _ about. there are some members who have been very vocal in these - have been very vocal in these negotiations, _ have been very vocal in these negotiations, there _ have been very vocal in these negotiations, there will- have been very vocal in these negotiations, there will be i negotiations, there will be compromised. _ negotiations, there will be compromised. that- negotiations, there will be compromised. that is- negotiations, there will be compromised. that is howj negotiations, there will be i compromised. that is how it negotiations, there will be - compromised. that is how it works, that is— compromised. that is how it works, that is how— compromised. that is how it works, that is how government _ compromised. that is how it works, that is how government works - compromised. that is how it works, i that is how government works blame our founding — that is how government works blame our founding fathers _ that is how government works blame our founding fathers who _ that is how government works blame our founding fathers who created - that is how government works blame our founding fathers who created the system _ our founding fathers who created the system we _ our founding fathers who created the system we live — our founding fathers who created the system we live under, _ our founding fathers who created the system we live under, this _ our founding fathers who created the system we live under, this is - our founding fathers who created the system we live under, this is a - system we live under, this is a president— system we live under, this is a president who _ system we live under, this is a president who has _ system we live under, this is a president who has created - system we live under, this is a president who has created a i system we live under, this is a - president who has created a victory. it is a _ president who has created a victory. it is a term — president who has created a victory. it is a term that _ president who has created a victory. it is a term that the _ president who has created a victory. it is a term that the white _ president who has created a victory. it is a term that the white house . it is a term that the white house uses, _ it is a term that the white house uses, the — it is a term that the white house uses, the un—house, _ it is a term that the white house uses, the un—house, they- it is a term that the white house i uses, the un—house, they expanded the definition— uses, the un—house, they expanded the definition of— uses, the un—house, they expanded the definition of un—housed - uses, the un—house, they expanded the definition of un—housed to - uses, the un—house, they expanded the definition of un—housed to be i the definition of un—housed to be able to— the definition of un—housed to be able to include _ the definition of un—housed to be able to include individuals- the definition of un—housed to be able to include individuals who i the definition of un—housed to be| able to include individuals who are slipping _ able to include individuals who are slipping to — able to include individuals who are slipping to couch _ able to include individuals who are slipping to couch to _ able to include individuals who are slipping to couch to couch - able to include individuals who are slipping to couch to couch or - able to include individuals who are slipping to couch to couch or who. slipping to couch to couch or who cannot— slipping to couch to couch or who cannot find — slipping to couch to couch or who cannot find housing _ slipping to couch to couch or who cannot find housing not - slipping to couch to couch or who l cannot find housing not necessarily
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'ust cannot find housing not necessarily just those — cannot find housing not necessarily just those who _ cannot find housing not necessarily just those who we _ cannot find housing not necessarily just those who we historically - cannot find housing not necessarily just those who we historically think of un-house. — just those who we historically think of un—house, people _ just those who we historically think of un—house, people living - just those who we historically think of un—house, people living in - just those who we historically think of un—house, people living in tentsj of un—house, people living in tents or close _ of un—house, people living in tents or close to— of un—house, people living in tents or close to bridges. _ of un—house, people living in tents or close to bridges. i— of un—house, people living in tents or close to bridges. i think- of un—house, people living in tents or close to bridges. i think that - or close to bridges. i think that matters — or close to bridges. i think that matters because _ or close to bridges. i think that matters because where - or close to bridges. i think that matters because where i- or close to bridges. i think that matters because where i am i or close to bridges. i think that - matters because where i am from, the city of _ matters because where i am from, the city of chicago, — matters because where i am from, the city of chicago, 70% _ matters because where i am from, the city of chicago, 70% of _ matters because where i am from, the city of chicago, 70% of chicago - city of chicago, 70% of chicago public— city of chicago, 70% of chicago public school _ city of chicago, 70% of chicago public school students - city of chicago, 70% of chicago public school students are - city of chicago, 70% of chicago public school students are alsoj public school students are also un-house _ public school students are also un-house we _ public school students are also un—house. we know— public school students are also un—house. we know that - public school students are also un—house. we know that the l un—house. we know that the requirements _ un—house. we know that the requirements for— un—house. we know that the requirements for and - un—house. we know that the requirements for and the - un—house. we know that the i requirements for and the things un—house. we know that the - requirements for and the things that they need _ requirements for and the things that they need to — requirements for and the things that they need to ensure _ requirements for and the things that they need to ensure that _ requirements for and the things that they need to ensure that they- requirements for and the things that they need to ensure that they are i they need to ensure that they are going to — they need to ensure that they are going to be — they need to ensure that they are going to be living _ they need to ensure that they are going to be living to _ they need to ensure that they are going to be living to the - they need to ensure that they are going to be living to the best- going to be living to the best of their— going to be living to the best of their ability— going to be living to the best of their ability but— going to be living to the best of their ability but also _ going to be living to the best of their ability but also the - going to be living to the best ofi their ability but also the support of services — their ability but also the support of services are _ their ability but also the support of services are necessary, - their ability but also the support of services are necessary, thosej their ability but also the support - of services are necessary, those who think— of services are necessary, those who think that _ of services are necessary, those who think that this— of services are necessary, those who think that this ministration _ of services are necessary, those who think that this ministration is - think that this ministration is thinking _ think that this ministration is thinking about— think that this ministration is thinking about and _ think that this ministration is thinking about and are - think that this ministration is i thinking about and are working towards — thinking about and are working towards a _ thinking about and are working towards a stocks _ thinking about and are working towards a stocks he _ thinking about and are working towards a stocks he has - thinking about and are working towards a stocks he has a - thinking about and are working towards a stocks he has a lot l thinking about and are workingl towards a stocks he has a lot to type _ towards a stocks he has a lot to type 24 — towards a stocks he has a lot to type 24 is _ towards a stocks he has a lot to type 24 is an— towards a stocks he has a lot to type. 24 is an election - towards a stocks he has a lot to type. 24 is an election year- towards a stocks he has a lot to type. 24 is an election year he i type. 24 is an election year he recognised that. _ type. 24 is an election year he recognised that. anything - type. 24 is an election year he recognised that. anything he i type. 24 is an election year he - recognised that. anything he speaks in front— recognised that. anything he speaks in front of— recognised that. anything he speaks in front of the — recognised that. anything he speaks in front of the public— recognised that. anything he speaks in front of the public whether - recognised that. anything he speaks in front of the public whether it - recognised that. anything he speaks in front of the public whether it is i in front of the public whether it is this or— in front of the public whether it is this or the — in front of the public whether it is this or the state _ in front of the public whether it is this or the state of— in front of the public whether it is this or the state of the _ in front of the public whether it is this or the state of the union, - this or the state of the union, etection— this or the state of the union, election is always _ this or the state of the union, election is always in _ this or the state of the union, election is always in the - this or the state of the union, election is always in the backl this or the state of the union, i election is always in the back of your— election is always in the back of your mind — election is always in the back of your mind when _ election is always in the back of your mind when you _ election is always in the back of your mind when you are - election is always in the back of your mind when you are a - election is always in the back ofl your mind when you are a sitting president— your mind when you are a sitting president for— your mind when you are a sitting president for some _ your mind when you are a sitting president for some to _ your mind when you are a sitting president for some to think - your mind when you are a sitting president for some to think he's| president for some to think he's going _ president for some to think he's going to — president for some to think he's going to bring _ president for some to think he's going to bring his— president for some to think he's going to bring his a—game. - president for some to think he's going to bring his a—game. he i president for some to think he's i going to bring his a—game. he also has a _ going to bring his a—game. he also has a lot— going to bring his a—game. he also has a lot victory— going to bring his a—game. he also has a lot victory to _ going to bring his a—game. he also has a lot victory to child _ going to bring his a—game. he also has a lot victory to child to - going to bring his a—game. he also has a lot victory to child to the - has a lot victory to child to the american people. _ has a lot victory to child to the american people.— has a lot victory to child to the american people. what you think, emil ? do american people. what you think, emily? do you _ american people. what you think, emily? do you think— american people. what you think, emily? do you think president - american people. what you think, l emily? do you think president biden given his poll numbers not being great even looking at samples in a head to head with president donald trump he is behind. 50 are a lot of those achievements that we heard are those being touted enough and this is the kind of address that he may
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be able to use to at least start to get back onto the positive footing. i think after this it will be full on campaign mode. i do think so. especially with a divided government. i think people in america are still feeling inflation and what you do, you blame the individual in power. that has certainly hurt the president. i think you mentioned the fall, it was unfortunate. i think that what does do is hones americans in on one of the biggest concerns for this president. very apparent earlier this month with the abc washington post poll. 60% of americans just think he is too old to do another four years. think he is too old to do another fouryears. i've think he is too old to do another four years. i've travelled this president, i have seen him work on thejob. i had asked him questions. he is doing thejob, he is fit to do it. he is doing the 'ob, he is fit to do it. ~ ., he is doing the 'ob, he is fit to do it. . ., _, , he is doing the 'ob, he is fit to do it. ~ ., , , . it. with age comes experience, he has one it. with age comes experience, he has gone to _ it. with age comes experience, he has gone to these _ it. with age comes experience, he has gone to these kinds _ it. with age comes experience, he has gone to these kinds of- has gone to these kinds of negotiations and potentially that is a weapon in his arsenal. and these feelings he did with kevin mccarthy. he definitely has the experience in the senate, it definitely has a
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experience dealing with senator mitch mcconnell —— mitch mcconnell who kicked out everyone in the room but this is of course looking at 2024 and his agent and i think those are the moments that is why, one of the reasons why he has some of these depressing poll numbers. aha, the reasons why he has some of these depressing poll numbers. git??? depressing poll numbers. a few minutes ago — depressing poll numbers. a few minutes ago and _ depressing poll numbers. a few minutes ago and will— depressing poll numbers. a few minutes ago and will bring - depressing poll numbers. a few minutes ago and will bring in i depressing poll numbers. a few minutes ago and will bring in that speech lie from president biden but one more question because we heard some interesting news from fish, one of those credit rating agencies, you working a bloomberg, i want your opinion. they saying now that they could still do to his credit rating despite the lifting of the debt ceiling. what does that mean, why is it still warning that it still could give a downgrade to the us? thea:t it still warning that it still could give a downgrade to the us? they are basicallyjust — give a downgrade to the us? they are basicallyjust going to _ give a downgrade to the us? they are basicallyjust going to be _ give a downgrade to the us? they are basicallyjust going to be watching - basicallyjust going to be watching the market, watch how this plays out. it does not mean we will get a downgrade, but basically basically they are saying just because you negotiated a deal does not mean we are keeping you at aaa. if your member in 2011, the last time we had this really huge debt ceiling fight to the brink, a deal was struck, but
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still two days later snp downgraded the us. ., ., , ., the us. you were mentioning before some of these _ the us. you were mentioning before some of these numbers _ the us. you were mentioning before some of these numbers about - the us. you were mentioning before some of these numbers about the i some of these numbers about the amount of debt and spending that the us is seeing. i see herface. it will be fair to say that both democrats and republicans have had their share of spending. afleeing democrats and republicans have had their share of spending.— their share of spending. going back to ronald reagan, _ their share of spending. going back to ronald reagan, yes. _ their share of spending. going back to ronald reagan, yes. that - their share of spending. going back to ronald reagan, yes. that therel to ronald reagan, yes. that there were some — to ronald reagan, yes. that there were some moments _ to ronald reagan, yes. that there were some moments of _ to ronald reagan, yes. that there were some moments of the - to ronald reagan, yes. that there| were some moments of the trump administration that the did cut some taxes for wealthy earners that would add to the deficit. it really depends on how you crunch the numbers, my question is is there a world in which you can see both democrats and republican parties agreeing on some way to actually to tackle what is a growing deficit in the us? because this deal does reduce spending a little bit but it is not a huge deficit. it’s reduce spending a little bit but it is not a huge deficit.— is not a huge deficit. it's slow spending. — is not a huge deficit. it's slow spending. it _ is not a huge deficit. it's slow spending, it freezes - is not a huge deficit. it's slow spending, it freezes it - is not a huge deficit. it's slow spending, it freezes it for - is not a huge deficit. it's slow spending, it freezes it for a l is not a huge deficit. it's slow. spending, it freezes it for a brief period _ spending, it freezes it for a brief period of— spending, it freezes it for a brief period of time because they find ways— period of time because they find ways to — period of time because they find ways to unfreeze things in washington all of the time. i think the challenge you have is as long as
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you are dependent on washington for spending. _ you are dependent on washington for spending, you're always good to have a spending _ spending, you're always good to have a spending problem. this goes back to ronald _ a spending problem. this goes back to ronald reagan, clinton oddly was the trest— to ronald reagan, clinton oddly was the best president to deal though deficit— the best president to deal though deficit prior to him nixon. trump spent _ deficit prior to him nixon. trump spent a _ deficit prior to him nixon. trump spent a tot— deficit prior to him nixon. trump spent a lot of money bush spent a tot of— spent a lot of money bush spent a lot of money there is really none motivation — lot of money there is really none motivation for them to stop spending oddly enough war in —— warren buffett— oddly enough war in —— warren buffett who is old in age but makes himself— buffett who is old in age but makes himself available to the media since less concern about his age as opposed _ less concern about his age as opposed tojoe biden less concern about his age as opposed to joe biden who less concern about his age as opposed tojoe biden who heights from the — opposed tojoe biden who heights from the media but he came up with a -ood from the media but he came up with a good idea _ from the media but he came up with a good idea once, his tight gdp to. tight— good idea once, his tight gdp to. tight gdp— good idea once, his tight gdp to. tight gdp to the deficit for these -uys tight gdp to the deficit for these guys to— tight gdp to the deficit for these guys to be able to run for office again— guys to be able to run for office again for if— guys to be able to run for office again for if it is more than three or 10%— again for if it is more than three or 10% of— again for if it is more than three or 10% of the gdp deficit than they are immediately disqualified from running _ are immediately disqualified from running for office again. that is the only— running for office again. that is the only abrupt what you are going to change — the only abrupt what you are going to change the culture in dc which is 'ust to change the culture in dc which is just spend. — to change the culture in dc which is just spend, spend, spend. and spend more. i just spend, spend, spend. and spend more- i want — just spend, spend, spend. and spend more. i want to _ just spend, spend, spend. and spend more. i want to come _
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