tv Nicky Campbell BBC News June 7, 2023 9:00am-11:00am BST
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reports of people missing in severe floodwaters in ukraine after a huge dam in the country's south was levelled. moscow and kyiv blame each other for the attack. prince harry is set for another day giving evidence in his privacy case against a newspaper publisher. i'm nancy kacungira live at the high court in london. we're standing by here for prince harry's arrival for day two of his testimony. british prime minister rishi sunak is in washington for a two—day visit where he will hold talks with president biden.
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president zelensky has warned the destruction of the dam risks leaving hundreds of thousands of people without healthy water. extensive damage has been caused to buildings and farmland. the united nations has said the breach of the dam is one of the most significant incidents of damage to civilian infrastructure since the start of the russian invasion, and will have grave and far—reaching consequences. moscow has denied destroying the dam, which it controls, instead blaming ukrainian shelling. the pictures you can see there are from one of the towns, these are coming to us live as a sum of the residents look on
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and i think one of the rescue boats, dinghies, hasjustarrived, and i think one of the rescue boats, dinghies, hasjust arrived, and and i think one of the rescue boats, dinghies, hasjustarrived, and i presume this is part of the evacuations that have been taking place for hours. our first report comes from jon donnison. breached, the nova kakhovka dam, now almost unrecognisable. water, seemingly the latest weapon in the war in ukraine. and it's downstream on the dnipro river where the damage has been done. in ukrainian—controlled territory to the west, officials say 17,000 people need to flee their homes. another 25,000 in the russian—occupied east. in kherson, under ukrainian control, there are fears the flooding could become catastrophic. and it's not the only worry. it's dangerous, says catalina. she's not wrong. bomb blast. russia pulled out of
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this city last year, but its forces are not far away. fast, fast, fast, fast! the dam was under russian control. but each side is blaming the other for the apparent attack. translation: tonight, i the kyiv regime committed another terrorist crime. the kakhovka hydroelectric dam was blown up, which led to the flooding of significant territories. translation: the whole world will | know about this russian war crime, | the crime of genocide. such deliberate acts by the russian occupiers of the dam, and other structures of the kakhovka hydropower plant, is an environmental bomb of mass destruction. so what is the significance of the nova kakhovka dam? first, it supplies water to vast swathes of agricultural land including in crimea. but the reservoir behind it also provides water to cool the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. both areas are under
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russian control. it looks like a natural disaster. but this was man—made. whoever did this knew that the consequences would be massive. but they were prepared to do it anyway. jon donnison, bbc news. iamjust i am just going to show you some live pictures before i talk to our correspondent in kyiv. this is in kherson and that is one of the dinghies that isjust kherson and that is one of the dinghies that is just leaving, departing from a ramped area. there is a gentleman on the right with a walkie—talkie, you can see some officials, i think coordinating some officials, i think coordinating some of the evacuations. some of the rivers haven't had the full level of the waters, the highest peak, reached yet, and rescue workers are scrambling to get people away from their homes, their submerged homes, and to higher ground, or areas that haven't been inundated. it has been
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said that it won't be until later on wednesday, that is today, that we will see the peak water levels. let me just bring will see the peak water levels. let mejust bring in our diplomatic correspondent paul adams who is in kyiv for us. paul, just to touch on some of the scenes that we have seen their of rescue workers trying to help residents, i wonder if you can fill us in with reports that some of those workers have been targeted by shelling? those workers have been targeted by shellin: ? ~ ~' ., shelling? well, i think the thing to remember is _ shelling? well, i think the thing to remember is that _ shelling? well, i think the thing to remember is that kherson - shelling? well, i think the thing to remember is that kherson since i shelling? well, i think the thing to remember is that kherson since it| remember is that kherson since it was liberated by ukrainian forces last november has been routinely sheued last november has been routinely shelled from across the river, from the russian side, so, none of that has stopped in the wake of yesterday's disaster, and it continues even as that rescue work goes on, i don't think that is any great surprise, i don't think it is a deliberate attempt to target the rescue, it is simply that kherson
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has been shelled all these months. the situation clearly in the city is critical, there are some parts of it which are a lot worse than the pictures that you are looking at now. i have seen scenes from an area where the dnipro and kakhovka rivers join, which are basically underwater, the water has reached rooftop levels, so there are neighbourhoods of kherson that are completely submerged. and that very much echoes the scene elsewhere along the dnipro, where, in these little communities on either side of the river, you are seeing similar scenes, with the river suddenly massively expanded as a result of this huge volume of water that is flooding down from what was a vast reservoir above the dam. that reservoir above the dam. that reservoir is emptying and sending great quantities of water down the
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dnipro river and into the black sea and causing devastation as it goes, notjust in those communities where people are living but also agricultural, we are getting briefings now from the ukrainian government saying that they anticipate a really catastrophic impact on agriculture in what is the breadbasket of ukraine, with irrigation systems completely reflect as a result of what has happened. so much depended on the dam, on the reservoir, the drinking supplies, the agricultural water supplies, the agricultural water supplies, that all of that system was in control of, and all of that has been destroyed, and it is likely that we will be seeing the consequences of all of that for a long while to come. find consequences of all of that for a long while to come.— consequences of all of that for a long while to come. and there has been devastation _ long while to come. and there has been devastation and _ long while to come. and there has been devastation and you - long while to come. and there has been devastation and you have - been devastation and you have described some of it for us there, we haven't seen the full consequences, iwonder we haven't seen the full consequences, i wonder if we could just very quickly touch on potential loss of life, the us national security council spokesman john kirby said the flooding had probably
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caused many deaths, any confirmation of that? caused many deaths, any confirmation ofthat? ~ , ., ., , of that? absolutely none, no. it is uuite of that? absolutely none, no. it is quite striking _ of that? absolutely none, no. it is quite striking that _ of that? absolutely none, no. it is quite striking that so _ of that? absolutely none, no. it is quite striking that so far— of that? absolutely none, no. it is quite striking that so far we - of that? absolutely none, no. it is quite striking that so far we have l quite striking that so far we have had no reports eitherfrom quite striking that so far we have had no reports either from the russian or ukrainian side of any mass fatalities. there was some reporting from the russian side that a number of people were missing, it would not surprise me at all if those reports do start to emerge over time because if you look at some of those communities and you imagine the speed with which some of these places were flooded, probably without much if any warning, then it is highly likely that people will have lost their lives, we have not heard that detail get. find have lost their lives, we have not heard that detail get.— have lost their lives, we have not heard that detail get. and as far as the nuclear — heard that detail get. and as far as the nuclear plant _ heard that detail get. and as far as the nuclear plant is _ the nuclear plant is concerned, obviously it is europe's largest, is that still stable?— that still stable? well, most of it is off-line. _ that still stable? well, most of it is off-line, but _ that still stable? well, most of it is off-line, but it _ that still stable? well, most of it is off-line, but it is _ that still stable? well, most of it is off-line, but it is vitally -
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is off—line, but it is vitally important that the water from the reservoir which is used in the cooling ponds to cool the reactors and the spent rods and basically to cool the entire system, it is vital that that water is maintained. at the moment get the un says that there is no problem with that and that there are other supplies of water that can be used if the level in the reservoir, as is inevitable, drops dramatically over the coming hours and days. i think what we are going to see is that the nuclear plant which was right on the eight this vast reservoir will now be marooned probably miles from the river because the reservoir is going to empty and what we will be left with is a river, the extent of that river will be controlled by the next dam up the river dnipro which is in zaporizhzhia, but it will no longer be controlled by the reservoir. the
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un did say that in the coming weeks the situation there could become serious but at the moment it seems to be a sustainable situation. in terms of territorial control, how important is the dnipro river in this conflict?— this conflict? well, it is the frontline — this conflict? well, it is the frontline and _ this conflict? well, it is the frontline and it _ this conflict? well, it is the frontline and it is _ this conflict? well, it is the frontline and it is a - this conflict? well, it is the frontline and it is a big - this conflict? well, it is the i frontline and it is a big chunk this conflict? well, it is the - frontline and it is a big chunk of the frontline and obviously a river, a wide river, particularly when it is in some places 10—15 kilometres wide because of the reservoir, forms very effective barrier to military operations. the kakhovka down was the only viable crossing point over that river between zaporizhzhia and the sea, and so, from a strategic, military point of view, it had some value. and i would imagine that russian commanders looking at the river, thinking about the broad extent of the frontline, 600 miles also, in which there could be ukrainian attacks, would have thought about that dam and the road
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bridge that went over it and thought that that was a problem for them. and that may be why the dam and the road over it were destroyed. paul adams, road over it were destroyed. paul adams. we _ road over it were destroyed. paul adams, we will— road over it were destroyed. paul adams, we will leave _ road over it were destroyed. paul adams, we will leave it _ road over it were destroyed. paul adams, we will leave it there for now. forviewers adams, we will leave it there for now. for viewers who are joining us there, the live scene of rescue workers are in kherson and that is part of the operations to evacuate residents. we have been told that around 42,000 people are now at risk of flooding on both sides of the dnipro river following the destruction of the dam, and just to put this into context for you and to remind you why the un security council have been commenting on this, the geneva convention explicitly, or part of the geneva conventions explicitly ban targeting dams in war due to the danger it poses to civilians. more on this when we get it. in the meantime you can see plenty more details on our
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website, you will find the very latest about what is known in terms of the damage that has been caused on the dam and on the surrounding areas, and you can also see the warning from the un about the impact it is having on thousands of people in the surrounding area, and you've got maps there and the latest videos as well. so, the website address for that is... 0r as well. so, the website address for that is... or you can follow all of the on the app as well. moving on... in the uk, prince harry is back, is due back, in the high court in central london later this morning. prince harry has become the first senior member of the royal family to give evidence in court for 130 years, after taking to the witness stand in his civil case against mirror group newspapers. he faced almost five hours of questioning on tuesday over his
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accusations that the publisher broke the law in order to obtain information about his private life. mgn denies the allegations. this is the scene live in central london, we can just the scene live in central london, we canjust bring the scene live in central london, we can just bring you that in a short moment and that is the high court, similar scenes to what we saw yesterday with banks of memos of the press photographers, journalists, initially waiting for the arrival of prince harry. my colleague nancy kacungira has been there since day one, that was yesterday, and she is there for us again today. good morning to you, nancy. so, a repeat of yesterday? morning to you, nancy. so, a repeat ofyesterday?— of yesterday? good morning, look wetter, it certainly _ of yesterday? good morning, look wetter, it certainly looks - of yesterday? good morning, look wetter, it certainly looks like - wetter, it certainly looks like that. there is certainly no waning interest, prince harry is due to resume giving evidence in his high court claim against the mirror group newspapers over alleged unlawful information gathering going as far back as 1996, all the way to 2011.
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—— lukwesa. yesterday he faced nearly five hours of questions from a barristerfor mirror nearly five hours of questions from a barrister for mirror group newspapers, becoming the first senior royal in more than two decades to appear personally and court proceedings. today, the press are out in their numbers, there was are out in their numbers, there was a queue stretching all the way around a building to get into the public gallery, there is still a lot of interest in this. what can we expect today? let's begin by looking back at what happened yesterday, here is tom simmons. —— tom symonds. it may be his second day in court, but for prince harry, it will start with another moment in front of the world's media, not an experience, he told the court yesterday, he would wish on anyone. he'll know what to expect now. several hours in the witness box while mirror barrister andrew green kc works through more of the 33 stories the duke says were based on phone hacking or information from private investigators. an example — the people in 2003, which reported that princes harry and william had disagreed about whether to confront this man,
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paul burrell, a former butler to their mother, princess diana, who'd been telling stories about her. harry was reported to have used an expletive while calling burrell two—faced. his claim — that those words were only used in a voice mail message to william hacked by the newspaper for a story which "sowed discord" between the princes, he said. the newspaper denies that, suggesting that harry's views were widely known in palace circles. so far, his evidence has emphasised the damage done to him from a young age by the press. the newspaper's barrister said yesterday that everyone was sympathetic, but it did not follow that this was all unlawful activity. "of course," said prince harry. "but it's the unlawful means which make it even worse." tom symonds, bbc news,
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at the high court. we expect prince harry to arrive within the hour to continue giving evidence in court. with me to talk about some of what we saw and heard yesterday is the journalist and radio commentator afua hagan. thank you for talking to us. you were watching everything unfold yesterday, getting details from the courtroom, we had that witness statement from prince harry, deep and personal, we saw him answering questions on the stand, i wonder, what were the moments that stuck in your mind as being hugely important? well, definitely seeing prince harry in court in the first place i think was hugely important, it really emphasises how much he has made this his life's work to try and hold institutions and journalists accountable for the stories, and if they have gathered them by illegal means. i think him being on the stand and the barrister really
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drilling into the detail with him, and trying to figure out, could that story have originated from somebody who worked with him or from another newspaper? prince harry really had to go over and recollect and digging into the detail of all of these stories that he says were very damaging. ithink stories that he says were very damaging. i think his statement at the beginning was very, very powerful as well, mentioning princess diana and saying how he feels physically sick when he thinks about her phone being hacked when she was at a vulnerable time in her life, the story about paul burell, we know that there has been no love lost tween paul burell and prince harry and prince william, and the expletive that he used to describe him, and also him talking and naming journalists such as robertjobson, piers morgan, things that he says were done, whether that his hacking phones, whether that is making up sources, he wasn't afraid to name and shame, as it were. and i think that was very, very pertinent, that he felt the need to be able to do
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that, that these people should not be faceless. find that, that these people should not be faceless-— that, that these people should not be faceless. �* , ., ., ., be faceless. and you have hinted at that sort of — be faceless. and you have hinted at that sort of unbridled _ be faceless. and you have hinted at that sort of unbridled nature - be faceless. and you have hinted at that sort of unbridled nature of- be faceless. and you have hinted at that sort of unbridled nature of his l that sort of unbridled nature of his statement, but looking at the way the royals seniors typically carry themselves, it is quite unusual for there to be this sort of open policy when it comes to speaking about their affairs, when it comes to speaking about theiraffairs, he is when it comes to speaking about their affairs, he is really bucking their affairs, he is really bucking the trend here, how do you think thatis the trend here, how do you think that is being viewed in terms of his popularity, in terms of how people receive him, and does he care at all? ., , , . ., , receive him, and does he care at all? , . ., , , all? oh, absolutely, prince harry is bein: a all? oh, absolutely, prince harry is being a disrupter_ all? oh, absolutely, prince harry is being a disrupter at _ all? oh, absolutely, prince harry is being a disrupter at this _ all? oh, absolutely, prince harry is being a disrupter at this moment i all? oh, absolutely, prince harry is i being a disrupter at this moment and he doesn't care that that is how he looks, that is how he wants to look, he has come to disrupt the institution, saying that this keep calm and carry on nature and attitude is actually not going to work for absolutely everything, and this is a situation where he feels that keep calm and carry on doesn't work, that he has to take on the
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british media, and actually himself and senior royals shouldn'tjust be able to have to put up with what he sees as bad behaviour when it comes on behalf of the great british press. don't think he has particularly bothered about how he comes across, it is all about his life's work, it's all about his mission, and his mission is to hold people accountable. it does not matter to him how he gets that done. like i said, he is a disrupter in this situation.— like i said, he is a disrupter in this situation. this is very much about his life's _ this situation. this is very much about his life's work, _ this situation. this is very much about his life's work, about - this situation. this is very much about his life's work, about his| about his life's work, about his mission, but this particular trial is really about the facts, isn't it? prince harry's thoughts and feelings, what the judge will be looking at? and indeed what the defence for the mirror group is saying is that suspicion is not proof and prince harry has to prove in this case that the way information was gathered on him was unlawful. do you think he is managing to do that? find unlawful. do you think he is managing to do that? and that is where the difficulty _ managing to do that? and that is where the difficulty is. _ managing to do that? and that is where the difficulty is. but - managing to do that? and that is where the difficulty is. but let's l where the difficulty is. but let's remember that he only has to prove
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that one story was gathered by illegal means, the other side have to prove that all of their stories weren't gathered by illegal means. so, he does have that on his side. and the proof is what he is perhaps going to face a challenge with, being able to come up with that proof that his phone was hacked, that a private investigator was used, whether he has got records of payments, phone hacking can be very difficult if someone knows deep into your voicemail it can be very difficult to prove that, and that is where the challenge is going to come. and remember we are going to see his barrister, david sherborne, up see his barrister, david sherborne, up on the stand today, he is definitely a bit of a show pony when it comes to these kind of trials, he was princess diana's lawyer, he was harry styles' lawyer, he loves being the centre of attention and he was made for this kind of trial, so we are going to hear him today and see his side of it as well. so that is where perhaps it might be less of a
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challenge for prince harry and that is where perhaps they will be able to provide more of the proof that he needs that just one to provide more of the proof that he needs thatjust one story to provide more of the proof that he needs that just one story was gathered illegally. and then potentially he wins the case. well, we will be looking _ potentially he wins the case. well, we will be looking out _ potentially he wins the case. well, we will be looking out for- potentially he wins the case. well, we will be looking out for that, - we will be looking out for that, thank you very much forjoining us, journalist and royal commentator afua hagan. here, we are expecting prince harry to arrive within the hour to continue giving evidence in court, we will bring you that when it happens but for now i will hand you back to lukwesa in the studio. nancy, thank you very much indeed. just to bring you some breaking news that has come to us here at bbc news and it is regarding the pope. you will remember that yesterday we brought you the news that he had gone to hospital in rome for a checkup, he then returned back to his residence, well, we now understand that the pope has been hospitalised for an intestine
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operation, this is coming to us from the reuters news agency who are quoting another news agency, and something else that is coming to us here, the pope is set to remain in hospital we understand some time. the visit yesterday was to carry out what was described as some clinical tests which took place in the morning and the pope then returned to the vatican before midday, so he has now been hospitalised this morning for an intestinal operation, we don't know when that is going to take place. he has had some ill—health over the last few months, certainly in march you will remember he was in hospital in rome for a few daysin he was in hospital in rome for a few days in relation to a respiratory infection, he was seen earlier this year, in fact he has been seen on a number of occasions in his wheelchair, in february he took a trip to sudan to the african continent there also seen again in
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his wheelchair. so what we are learning this morning is that the pope is to undergo abdominal surgery under general anaesthetic following a visit yesterday to hospital in rome and we understand that he will remain in hospitalfor some days, and that is coming from the vatican, via the reuters news agency, and you can see scenes of him in his wheelchair there, can see scenes of him in his wheelchairthere, he can see scenes of him in his wheelchair there, he has had ill—health over the last few months, and certainly last year as well, seen increasingly in his wheelchair in order to get about. so, abdominal surgery to take place for pope francis in rome's gemelli hospital. we don't know when exactly he will have that surgery, but it will be under general anaesthetic, and according to the vatican, you will remain in hospitalfor some days.
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more details and when we get it. a cyber crime gang thought to be based in russia has claimed it's responsible for the hacking of payroll data affecting companies including the bbc, boots and british airways. the group, called clop, has posted on their darknet site threatening to publish the stolen information if the companies don't e—mail them by 14th june. let's get more on this and speak to our cyber correspondentjoe tidy, who is in the newsroom. good morning to you, joe, what can you tell us about clop? irate good morning to you, joe, what can you tell us about (lop?— good morning to you, joe, what can you tell us about clop? we know that the are a you tell us about clop? we know that they are a notorious _ you tell us about clop? we know that they are a notorious cybercrime - you tell us about clop? we know that they are a notorious cybercrime and, | they are a notorious cybercrime and, they are a notorious cybercrime and, they specialise in ransomware, which is what we are seeing right now, where they gain entry to the it system of an organisation, they
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steal data and then ransom it back to the companies, threatening to publish it online, sometimes they also install malicious software which is crumble is all of the data so that the organisations cannot have access to their systems. in this case they have not done that which is some relief to some of the organisations affected. —— which scrambles all of the data. clop has been around since about 2019, they have hit many of organisations around the world, most of the targets being in the us, we think they could be based in russia, of course with cybercrime you never really know whether hackers are, but there are certain tell—tale signs that have been pick up over the years, so for example they operate mostly in russian forums, russian speaking forums, and they have breaks during russian holidays, that kind of thing. interestingly, this post that they put out late last night on their dark net site initially said that the companies have until the 12th ofjune, and then for some reason we don't know why it was changed until the 14th of june, i'vejust looked why it was changed until the 14th of june, i've just looked this why it was changed until the 14th of june, i'vejust looked this morning and there is a russian public
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holiday on the 12th ofjune, could be a coincidence, of course. payroll data, what — be a coincidence, of course. payroll data, what spread _ be a coincidence, of course. payroll data, what spread of— be a coincidence, of course. payroll data, what spread of data - be a coincidence, of course. payroll data, what spread of data would . be a coincidence, of course. payroll. data, what spread of data would take group like this be holding companies to ransom with?— to ransom with? well, they managed to ransom with? well, they managed to break into — to ransom with? well, they managed to break into a _ to ransom with? well, they managed to break into a very _ to ransom with? well, they managed to break into a very popular- to ransom with? well, they managed to break into a very popular piece - to break into a very popular piece of software called move it which is run by an american company called progress software, and what they did was they got into that system, into that software and through that, they got into lots of other companies that use the software, it is called a supply chain attack. and one of the biggest firms that were accessed was a firm called zellis which is a bigger organisation used by the british airways, bbc, nova scotia government, canada, boots chemists, lots of other companies, and there will be more as well. what they are now saying is that they have payroll data of all of these organisations, so for example, if you imagine what
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kind of details are kept by payroll, it is your stat employment date and end date, your national insurance number, in some cases it is bank details, and it is names, e—mails, telephone numbers, all the things that payroll have, but it varies on which organisation you speak to on what sort of data has been stolen but it is very serious. the advice is not to panic, the organisations are the ones who have to deal with this now. individuals are not at this now. individuals are not at this stage massively in danger of hackers coming after them and emptying their bank accounts, basically cannot do that with the information they have, there are many steps between that and someone's bank account being attacked, but there are things you can do which is to look out for suspicious e—mails or phone calls. in terms of accountability, you said that individuals don't need to be worried, at the moment, organisations, will they essentially pick up the tab? organisations, will they essentially pick ua the tab?— pick up the tab? well, so, individuals, _ pick up the tab? well, so, individuals, the _ pick up the tab? well, so, individuals, the reason - pick up the tab? well, so, l individuals, the reason why pick up the tab? well, so, i individuals, the reason why i pick up the tab? well, so, - individuals, the reason why i say
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individuals, the reason why i say individuals don't need to worry is that if you think about how these criminal gangs work, someone like clop, they have gone into possibly hundreds, maybe even over 1000 companies, through the moveit software, they have got many organisations that they are trying to extort, they have not got the time or resources to go through that data and pick out individuals who they are going to attack and try to extort for money, at this stage they will go after the companies, that is what we saw last night with this post online saying all of the organisations have to get in touch with us or we will start posting the data online. individuals at this stage, they are not going to go after individuals, it might happen later on if organisations don't pay clop and then clop publish the data on the dark web and other hackers might use that but it is mainly the fishing attacks and secondary attacks which we are cause for concern, it is now up to the organisations about how they deal with things.
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organisations about how they deal with thins. ., ., ., ., ,., organisations about how they deal with thins. ., ., ., ., , with things. how often our ransom is aid? with things. how often our ransom is paid? more — with things. how often our ransom is paid? more than _ with things. how often our ransom is paid? more than you _ with things. how often our ransom is paid? more than you think, - with things. how often our ransom is paid? more than you think, more - with things. how often our ransom is l paid? more than you think, more than we would like- — paid? more than you think, more than we would like. the _ paid? more than you think, more than we would like. the advice _ paid? more than you think, more than we would like. the advice from - we would like. the advice from law—enforcement agencies around the world is never pay, because you would be helping to fuel this criminal enterprise, and if you look at this attack from clop, they used something called a zero day attack which means they have managed to either pay someone a lot of money to sit there and work out a very technically, way to get into the moveit software, or they have paid for that exploit to be given to them, so they are now well resourced, because of the money that people are paying to these gangs, in ransomware is the global problem in cyber security, according to the national cyber security centre here in the uk it is the number one cause for concern for organisations. we don't have very good statistics on how many organisations pay but there was some research about a year ago which said that more than half do, and the uk, unfortunately, organisations are more prone to pain, for some reason.
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just going live to ukraine and this is kherson, part of the region flooded by the dam on monday night into tuesday. it has wide implications, it supplied cooling water for the nuclear plant and i had a hydropower station there and we have had power loss, oil leak through the flood waters and affecting up to 42,000 people. we are still trying to get a hold of the communities and towns affected. we also know that a huge impact that will have, follow—on consequences for europe and possibly the rest of the world is the impact on agriculture and the crops. of
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course, we are coming into the summer season so it would have been very close to harvesting so irrigation systems have been completely wiped out, let alone the destruction taking place in the field. there is sewage in the flood waters as well and 150 tonnes of diesel oil that has leaked from the hydropower station. as far as the nuclear power plant is concerned, i think it is 150 kilometres north of the dam, the reservoir. stable at the dam, the reservoir. stable at the moment in terms of the cooling waters, they have some reserved in the pond and that is used to cool the pond and that is used to cool the reactors. we haven't yet had confirmation as to who was responsible, but ukraine and russia blaming each other. but warnings coming from the un, the un aid chief, martyn griffith saying the sheer magnitude of this catastrophe will only become fully realised in the coming days and various
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assessments that could take decades to recover from this disaster. the un going on to warn that thousands of people in southern ukraine were facing the loss of homes, food, safe water and livelihoods. a lot of speculation as to the probable cause of the destruction and that there are some reports, unconfirmed at the moment and not verify, it could have been part of an internal blast. but some have described it as a war crime. you are watching bbc news. let's return to events unfolding in the united kingdom. they began yesterday, dave won a prince harry's appearance in the high court. he is due back there shortly, expected to continue to give evidence in his privity case against the mirror
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group newspapers. yesterday he faced almost five hours of questioning, that was on tuesday, over his accusations that the publisher broke the law in order to obtain information about his private life. mgn have denied these allegations. so we are going to cross to my colleague who is outside the court, at the high court. nancy, we are expecting prince harry anytime now? we certainly are. i am standing among the gaggle of press you can see. there is a large amount of activity going on now prince harry will continue to give evidence in
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court. there were insights from his lawyers from his time in the court and his witness statement. let reflect, with me isjoe inwood. it is no secret that prince harry has had a difficult relationship with the british tabloid press. but yesterday, he really laid it out, what an impact this has had on his life? i what an impact this has had on his life? ~' what an impact this has had on his life? ~ ., , , , ., life? i think that is possibly an understatement _ life? i think that is possibly an understatement to _ life? i think that is possibly an understatement to say - life? i think that is possibly an understatement to say a - life? i think that is possibly an i understatement to say a difficult relationship. he putting it bluntly, loads_ relationship. he putting it bluntly, loads the — relationship. he putting it bluntly, loads the british press. he said he blames_ loads the british press. he said he blames them for the death of his mother, — blames them for the death of his mother, princess diana. this is his witness _ mother, princess diana. this is his witness statement, all 55 pages of it. witness statement, all 55 pages of it he _ witness statement, all 55 pages of it. he goes into real detail about the way— it. he goes into real detail about the way in — it. he goes into real detail about the way in which he feels the media has treated him and how it has impacted — has treated him and how it has impacted his life. what we heard from _ impacted his life. what we heard from harry and what we heard in this statement, _ from harry and what we heard in this statement, it is the way that he is bob mackie feels they have intruded
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on his— bob mackie feels they have intruded on his life _ bob mackie feels they have intruded on his life in every sort of way. they— on his life in every sort of way. they have _ on his life in every sort of way. they have been undermining his confidence, his friends and his relationships and how that has left him feeling depressed and feeling paranoid — him feeling depressed and feeling paranoid. i think what he said in his statement is that for most of his statement is that for most of his life. — his statement is that for most of his life. he — his statement is that for most of his life, he felt his friends were betraying — his life, he felt his friends were betraying him, how his circle narrowed _ betraying him, how his circle narrowed. but as he got older, he says he _ narrowed. but as he got older, he says he realised it was phone hacking — says he realised it was phone hacking and it was other unlawful means— hacking and it was other unlawful means that have led to the stories. and that _ means that have led to the stories. and that really is the crux of this case: _ and that really is the crux of this case, he — and that really is the crux of this case, he has 33 different stories he has pointed — case, he has 33 different stories he has pointed out, all of which he says— has pointed out, all of which he says were — has pointed out, all of which he says were down to unlawful methods. and that _ says were down to unlawful methods. and that is _ says were down to unlawful methods. and that is the heart of this matter, isn't it? they are going through these 33 articles one by one, they have got about ten more to get through. in each instance we are seeing a pattern emerge where andrew
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green casey, who is representing the mirror group, sn, this information could have come from a source, could have come from a tip. it didn't necessarily come from unlawful means? ~ , , ., ., necessarily come from unlawful means? ~ , ., ., , means? absolutely, what we have seen from harry in — means? absolutely, what we have seen from harry in his _ means? absolutely, what we have seen from harry in his document _ means? absolutely, what we have seen from harry in his document is _ means? absolutely, what we have seen from harry in his document is very - from harry in his document is very broad _ from harry in his document is very broad brush — from harry in his document is very broad brush. he sets out the principles— broad brush. he sets out the principles he feels. we have seen from _ principles he feels. we have seen from the — principles he feels. we have seen from the mirror group casey is a rebuttat — from the mirror group casey is a rebuttal. he acknowledges that harry feels badly treated and feels let down _ feels badly treated and feels let down like he has had a really rough ride but— down like he has had a really rough ride but says it's not the point. this— ride but says it's not the point. this is— ride but says it's not the point. this is a — ride but says it's not the point. this is a court of law and what matters — this is a court of law and what matters is _ this is a court of law and what matters is the evidence. he said if you took— matters is the evidence. he said if you took at— matters is the evidence. he said if you look at each of these cases you've — you look at each of these cases you've in — you look at each of these cases you've in everyone, the mirror group argue, _ you've in everyone, the mirror group argue, you _ you've in everyone, the mirror group argue, you can find other reasons, lawful— argue, you can find other reasons, lawful reasons as to how they got this evidence. and that is what they are trying _ this evidence. and that is what they are trying to prove to prove to the judge _ are trying to prove to prove to the we , ., , , are trying to prove to prove to the we , ., _ , , are trying to prove to prove to the 'udte, , ., i , , ., judge. obviously the best outcome for harry in — judge. obviously the best outcome for harry in this _ judge. obviously the best outcome for harry in this instance _ judge. obviously the best outcome for harry in this instance would - judge. obviously the best outcome for harry in this instance would be | for harry in this instance would be for harry in this instance would be for him to win this case and there
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are other claimants, many of them. this is a test case and the result of this case will determine, what if any, damages will accrue to the others. but what he is trying to do is hold the media to account. to that matter, does it really matter what the outcome is, because he has already said it is not about the money, is itjust about having the public see what has been happening? i think the outcome matters hugely. because _ i think the outcome matters hugely. because harry has always said he wanted _ because harry has always said he wanted his day in court and titeratty— wanted his day in court and literally yesterday and today, he is getting _ literally yesterday and today, he is getting it — literally yesterday and today, he is getting it. but i think for him, he will be _ getting it. but i think for him, he will be judged and this will be judged — will be judged and this will be judged on what the verdict is. it is true, _ judged on what the verdict is. it is true, it— judged on what the verdict is. it is true, it is— judged on what the verdict is. it is true, it is being heard in an open court. _ true, it is being heard in an open court. but— true, it is being heard in an open court, but for harry, if the judge finds— court, but for harry, if the judge finds in— court, but for harry, if the judge finds in his — court, but for harry, if the judge finds in his favour, if the judge finds— finds in his favour, if the judge finds on— finds in his favour, if the judge finds on the balance of probabilities, this is a civil case, not a _ probabilities, this is a civil case, not a criminal case so it isn't about— not a criminal case so it isn't about proving it beyond reasonable doubt, _
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about proving it beyond reasonable doubt, as— about proving it beyond reasonable doubt, as in a normal trial, it is about— doubt, as in a normal trial, it is about the — doubt, as in a normal trial, it is about the balance of probabilities. ithink— about the balance of probabilities. i think if— about the balance of probabilities. i think if the judge finds on the balance — i think if the judge finds on the balance of probabilities that unlawful, illegal means would have been used — unlawful, illegal means would have been used to acquire these stories, this will— been used to acquire these stories, this will be — been used to acquire these stories, this will be seen as a vindication for prince — this will be seen as a vindication for prince harry. as you say, it is notjust— for prince harry. as you say, it is notjust implications for prince harry. as you say, it is not just implications for him and the settlement he would get, but implications for the three other claimants— implications for the three other claimants in this case, two former actors _ claimants in this case, two former actors in _ claimants in this case, two former actors in the — claimants in this case, two former actors in the british soap, coronation street. also, the former wife of— coronation street. also, the former wife of a _ coronation street. also, the former wife of a comedian called paul whitehouse. notjust them, there are others _ whitehouse. notjust them, there are others this _ whitehouse. notjust them, there are others. this has reputational consequences for prince harry. this is very expensive — consequences for prince harry. try 3 is very expensive for mirror group newspapers. they have already paid out at about £100 million in cases they have settled. they have admitted to hacking before in other cases in 2014. how does this reflect
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on the mirror group?— on the mirror group? newspaper urou -s on the mirror group? newspaper groups are _ on the mirror group? newspaper groups are in _ on the mirror group? newspaper groups are in general, _ on the mirror group? newspaper groups are in general, it - on the mirror group? newspaper groups are in general, it is - on the mirror group? newspaper groups are in general, it is a - groups are in general, it is a difficult _ groups are in general, it is a difficult financial situation because of the activities they have been _ because of the activities they have been found to be guilty of in the past _ been found to be guilty of in the past. they— been found to be guilty of in the past. they have already settled some out of _ past. they have already settled some out of court — past. they have already settled some out of court. they also have admitted _ out of court. they also have admitted one case against harry, not the one _ admitted one case against harry, not the one in_ admitted one case against harry, not the one in question here, it is to do with— the one in question here, it is to do with a — the one in question here, it is to do with a private investigator, but they could — do with a private investigator, but they could be huge financial implications and it does come down to the _ implications and it does come down to the judge and what he decides to settle _ to the judge and what he decides to settle. these organisations do have deep pockets, but it is important as well for— deep pockets, but it is important as well for their reputation. because obviously— well for their reputation. because obviously newspapers live and die by their reputations, by the trust the audience — their reputations, by the trust the audience and readers have in them. if it audience and readers have in them. if it is _ audience and readers have in them. if it is found — audience and readers have in them. if it is found they have been using illegat— if it is found they have been using illegal methods and have then, according to the judge, not been truthful— according to the judge, not been truthful about that subsequently, that would have reputational damage for the _ that would have reputational damage for the mirror, as well as a financial— for the mirror, as well as a financial one.— for the mirror, as well as a financial one. . ., , , .~' financial one. prince harry struck out a path _ financial one. prince harry struck out a path that _ financial one. prince harry struck out a path that was _ financial one. prince harry struck out a path that was quite - financial one. prince harry struck. out a path that was quite different from the rest of the royal family.
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he may not be a working royal but he was addressed as your highness in court yesterday. after which he said, prince harry is fine following on from here. but this does reveal certain things about the royal family, this case and the details they are getting into. i family, this case and the details they are getting into.— they are getting into. i think specifically _ they are getting into. i think specifically about _ they are getting into. i think specifically about the - they are getting into. i think specifically about the lives i they are getting into. i think| specifically about the lives of prince — specifically about the lives of prince harry and the princess. they are rcatty— prince harry and the princess. they are really quite unusual. 0ne came out that— are really quite unusual. 0ne came out that he — are really quite unusual. 0ne came out that he has never walked down the street — out that he has never walked down the street. just the normal things of life _ the street. just the normal things of life we — the street. just the normal things of life we all take for granted, ordinary— of life we all take for granted, ordinary things.— of life we all take for granted, ordinary things. of life we all take for granted, ordina thins. ,, , ordinary things. discussing a pub he had one ordinary things. discussing a pub he had gone to — ordinary things. discussing a pub he had gone to with _ ordinary things. discussing a pub he had gone to with friends, _ ordinary things. discussing a pub he had gone to with friends, saying - ordinary things. discussing a pub he had gone to with friends, saying he| had gone to with friends, saying he couldn't... the information he was going to be there couldn't have come from people seeing him walk down the street because he doesn't do that? yes, it is hard to get your head around — yes, it is hard to get your head around what that is light, to have a life with _ around what that is light, to have a life with private security and you
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are always — life with private security and you are always being followed. it is bad enough _ are always being followed. it is bad enough if— are always being followed. it is bad enough if you are followed by security, _ enough if you are followed by security, but the point he was getting — security, but the point he was getting at is how he felt he was being _ getting at is how he felt he was being followed by the paparazzi, at every— being followed by the paparazzi, at every single turn. whether it was a holiday. _ every single turn. whether it was a holiday. on— every single turn. whether it was a holiday, on the other side of the world _ holiday, on the other side of the world or— holiday, on the other side of the world or going to the pub with friends, — world or going to the pub with friends, someone was there, they knew_ friends, someone was there, they knew where he was. i think if you add the _ knew where he was. i think if you add the very, very odd state that is normal— add the very, very odd state that is normal existence would be in, add to that this _ normal existence would be in, add to that this other intrusion, as he saw it, that this other intrusion, as he saw it. by— that this other intrusion, as he saw it. by the _ that this other intrusion, as he saw it, by the press and the feeling that created, that your friends and maybe _ that created, that your friends and maybe your family or the royal household where betraying you, that was the _ household where betraying you, that was the point he was getting at, all of these _ was the point he was getting at, all of these things come together and compound to make an already really quite strange situation almost intolerable, to the point he lost a lot of— intolerable, to the point he lost a lot of friends and he felt paranoid and depressed. that is the heart of the case _ and depressed. that is the heart of the case harry is making about the effect _ the case harry is making about the effect this— the case harry is making about the effect this had on his life. he is
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really not _ effect this had on his life. he is really not pulling _ effect this had on his life. he is really not pulling any _ effect this had on his life. he is really not pulling any punches, | really not pulling any punches, because he is notjust taking aim at the tabloid press, he has brought the tabloid press, he has brought the government into this. he said both the press and the press are at rock bottom? that both the press and the press are at rock bottom?— both the press and the press are at rock bottom? ., ., , ., ., ., , rock bottom? that was extraordinary, to hear that — rock bottom? that was extraordinary, to hear that language _ rock bottom? that was extraordinary, to hear that language from _ rock bottom? that was extraordinary, to hear that language from a - rock bottom? that was extraordinary, to hear that language from a member of the _ to hear that language from a member of the royal family, to hear him say that the _ of the royal family, to hear him say that the government is at rock bottom, — that the government is at rock bottom, that is direct criticism of the government. i think it is probably— the government. i think it is probably unprecedented, certainly to be said _ probably unprecedented, certainly to be said in_ probably unprecedented, certainly to be said in public. words have slipped — be said in public. words have slipped out, comments by the then prince, _ slipped out, comments by the then prince, now— slipped out, comments by the then prince, now king charles about certain— prince, now king charles about certain government policies, but that was— certain government policies, but that was said in private and got revealed — that was said in private and got revealed. but this, he has openly and said — revealed. but this, he has openly and said in— revealed. but this, he has openly and said in this document, which is public— and said in this document, which is public for— and said in this document, which is public for everyone to see, he said the british— public for everyone to see, he said the british government is at rock bottom — the british government is at rock bottom. that is extraordinary. it is fair to— bottom. that is extraordinary. it is fair to say— bottom. that is extraordinary. it is fair to say that over the last few years. _ fair to say that over the last few years, prince harry has taken a number— years, prince harry has taken a number of— years, prince harry has taken a number of actions which have deviated _ number of actions which have deviated from standard royal protocol and done things which have never— protocol and done things which have never been — protocol and done things which have never been done before. but a direct
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attack— never been done before. but a direct attack on _ never been done before. but a direct attack on the government was quite extraordinary to hear. so attack on the government was quite extraordinary to hear.— extraordinary to hear. so coming back to this _ extraordinary to hear. so coming back to this case _ extraordinary to hear. so coming back to this case and _ extraordinary to hear. so coming back to this case and he - extraordinary to hear. so coming back to this case and he is - extraordinary to hear. so coming back to this case and he is going | extraordinary to hear. so coming i back to this case and he is going to resume giving evidence today, we will hear from resume giving evidence today, we will hearfrom his resume giving evidence today, we will hear from his lawyer, david sherborne. butjust in terms of what this might do with how the press conduct themselves, this is what he is after, after initiating a real change of how the press conducts itself. do you think he is making an impact? no matter what happened here, he has brought a real spotlight to this issue? it is fair to say this _ spotlight to this issue? it is fair to say this is — spotlight to this issue? it is fair to say this is a _ spotlight to this issue? it is fair to say this is a spotlight - spotlight to this issue? it is fair to say this is a spotlight which l spotlight to this issue? it is fair i to say this is a spotlight which has been _ to say this is a spotlight which has been shone on the press before. we have had _ been shone on the press before. we have had various inquiries into the conduct _ have had various inquiries into the conduct of— have had various inquiries into the conduct of the press over the years. we have _ conduct of the press over the years. we have seen the news of the world newspaper shutdown a consequence. who knows _ newspaper shutdown a consequence. who knows what goes on, i am not privy _ who knows what goes on, i am not privy to _ who knows what goes on, i am not privy to what newspapers get up to, but one _ privy to what newspapers get up to, but one would imagine the incredible level of— but one would imagine the incredible level of fines that have been put upon _ level of fines that have been put upon them would have changed the
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calculation. also the awareness that people _ calculation. also the awareness that people before are not as vulnerable to this _ people before are not as vulnerable to this as— people before are not as vulnerable to this as they were because people have better security around their voice _ have better security around their voice mail~ — have better security around their voice mail. ithink have better security around their voice mail. i think there have better security around their voice mail. ithink there have been changes— voice mail. ithink there have been changes and it is worth reflecting that _ changes and it is worth reflecting that but — changes and it is worth reflecting that but i — changes and it is worth reflecting that. but i think he will be hoping this is— that. but i think he will be hoping this is going to make a difference. he said _ this is going to make a difference. he said this is basically his life's work— he said this is basically his life's work now — he said this is basically his life's work now. the thing he wants to achieve — work now. the thing he wants to achieve is— work now. the thing he wants to achieve is to change the relationship between the press and society, _ relationship between the press and society, because it is one he clearly— society, because it is one he clearly feels it is very broken. that— clearly feels it is very broken. that is— clearly feels it is very broken. that is something the newspapers would _ that is something the newspapers would dispute very strongly. they feel they — would dispute very strongly. they feel they are representing their readers — feel they are representing their readers. but prince harry feels and he says _ readers. but prince harry feels and he says in— readers. but prince harry feels and he says in his statement, they not representing their readers, they are representing their readers, they are representing their readers, they are representing their owners. that representing their readers, they are representing their owners.— representing their owners. that was the stickin: representing their owners. that was the sticking point _ representing their owners. that was the sticking point yesterday - representing their owners. that was the sticking point yesterday in - representing their owners. that was the sticking point yesterday in the i the sticking point yesterday in the trial, talking about one of the articles, harry insisted this, i think it was andrew green, the mirror group lawyer who said something was in the public interest
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and harry pointed out, what is in the public interest is different from what interest the public. that is the attention, the pressure to get a scoop, get news that people want to see and how intrusive it can be in people's lives? i want to see and how intrusive it can be in people's lives?— be in people's lives? i think that is true and _ be in people's lives? i think that is true and the _ be in people's lives? i think that is true and the whole _ be in people's lives? i think that is true and the whole debate - be in people's lives? i think that i is true and the whole debate about the interest, the public interest and of— the interest, the public interest and of interest to the public is an age-oid — and of interest to the public is an age—old journalistic debate. i think the newspapers would argue, they are owned _ the newspapers would argue, they are owned by— the newspapers would argue, they are owned by wealthy people quite often, but is it _ owned by wealthy people quite often, but is it for— owned by wealthy people quite often, but is it for someone like prince harry— but is it for someone like prince harry to — but is it for someone like prince harry to tell them what is in the public— harry to tell them what is in the public interest? it is not an objective, that definitely is and that definitely isn't, it is a balancing act, a discussion. they would _ balancing act, a discussion. they would say— balancing act, a discussion. they would say they are in a better position— would say they are in a better position to determine what is in the public— position to determine what is in the public interest. they would often say it _ public interest. they would often say it holds into account, the royal family. _ say it holds into account, the royal family. the — say it holds into account, the royal family, the constitutional monarchy of this— family, the constitutional monarchy of this family. what they do with
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their— of this family. what they do with their lives, — of this family. what they do with their lives, who they are and what they like _ their lives, who they are and what they like is— their lives, who they are and what they like is in the public interest. that is— they like is in the public interest. that is something i'm sure many readers — that is something i'm sure many readers would agree with, but it is something — readers would agree with, but it is something harry doesn't agree with. it is something that has caught the interest, notjust of people in the uk, but there are members of the press from all over the world. yesterday we were hearing languages we couldn't recognise because there is so much interest in this and perhaps some of that is because these themes resonate all over the world. this idea of what intrusion is, of how the press behaves? yes. world. this idea of what intrusion is, of how the press behaves? yes, i think that is — is, of how the press behaves? yes, i think that is very _ is, of how the press behaves? yes, i think that is very true, _ is, of how the press behaves? yes, i think that is very true, it _ is, of how the press behaves? yes, i think that is very true, it is - think that is very true, it is universal— think that is very true, it is universal in every society with a free press _ universal in every society with a free press. that free press can go to a way— free press. that free press can go to a way that can be seen as intrusive _ to a way that can be seen as intrusive. it is something that has resonance — intrusive. it is something that has resonance around the world. but in terms _ resonance around the world. but in terms of— resonance around the world. but in terms of this case, if he wasjust harry— terms of this case, if he wasjust harry smith, nobody ever heard of, i don't _ harry smith, nobody ever heard of, i don't think— harry smith, nobody ever heard of, i don't think we would be seeing our colleagues — don't think we would be seeing our colleagues from all around the world
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gathered _ colleagues from all around the world gathered here. let's be honest, this is one _ gathered here. let's be honest, this is one of— gathered here. let's be honest, this is one of the — gathered here. let's be honest, this is one of the most famous men on earth, _ is one of the most famous men on earth, from — is one of the most famous men on earth, from probably one of the most famous _ earth, from probably one of the most famous family on earth, who has been part of— famous family on earth, who has been part of one _ famous family on earth, who has been part of one of— famous family on earth, who has been part of one of the most extraordinary political drama, familial— extraordinary political drama, familial drama over the last few years— familial drama over the last few years and — familial drama over the last few years and there is a huge amount of interest, _ years and there is a huge amount of interest, partly on the principles being _ interest, partly on the principles being decided in that court, but also in — being decided in that court, but also in the _ being decided in that court, but also in the man engaged in the argument. also in the man engaged in the argument-— also in the man engaged in the aruument. ., , ., , , argument. that is absolutely right and that is one _ argument. that is absolutely right and that is one of _ argument. that is absolutely right and that is one of the _ argument. that is absolutely right and that is one of the reasons i argument. that is absolutely right and that is one of the reasons hel and that is one of the reasons he gives for why he is doing this. he says he has the platform and he can afford to do it. not everyone can afford to do it. not everyone can afford the legal fees, because he is taking a risk and this could be expensive for him personally, but also depending on how the case goes, there is still a risk in terms of what comes out in court as well. that is the questioning he is going through and it is not the sort of thing you go through in an 0prah thing you go through in an oprah winfrey interview? h0 thing you go through in an oprah winfrey interview?—
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thing you go through in an oprah winfrey interview? no it is not, and robabl winfrey interview? no it is not, and probably not _ winfrey interview? no it is not, and probably not the — winfrey interview? no it is not, and probably not the sort _ winfrey interview? no it is not, and probably not the sort of— winfrey interview? no it is not, and probably not the sort of thing i winfrey interview? no it is not, and probably not the sort of thing a i probably not the sort of thing a member— probably not the sort of thing a member of the royal family has ever been subjected to. the last time a senior— been subjected to. the last time a senior royal appeared in a british court _ senior royal appeared in a british court was — senior royal appeared in a british court was the late 19th century. i am assuming it was slightly more deferential because he was a witness rather— deferential because he was a witness rather than _ deferential because he was a witness rather than a participant. but prince — rather than a participant. but prince harry, it was, to be fair although— prince harry, it was, to be fair although he seemed nervous, it was comparatively gentle questioning from andrew green casey. he could be subjected _ from andrew green casey. he could be subjected to _ from andrew green casey. he could be subjected to the kind of hostile questioning that no one ever really subjects _ questioning that no one ever really subjects the royals to. they do sometimes speak to the media but it is not _ sometimes speak to the media but it is not done _ sometimes speak to the media but it is not done in a kind of really deeply— is not done in a kind of really deeply interrogate every way. but today— deeply interrogate every way. but today could be very uncomfortable for prince — today could be very uncomfortable for prince harry. this today could be very uncomfortable for prince harry.— for prince harry. this could also become something _ for prince harry. this could also become something of— for prince harry. this could also become something of a - for prince harry. this could also become something of a feature| become something of a feature because between him and his wife, megan, prince harry has no fewer than seven cases against the british tabloids going on. so we could see a lot more of this? brute
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tabloids going on. so we could see a lot more of this?— tabloids going on. so we could see a lot more of this? we could, and how this case pans _ lot more of this? we could, and how this case pans out _ lot more of this? we could, and how this case pans out might _ lot more of this? we could, and how this case pans out might factor- lot more of this? we could, and how this case pans out might factor into l this case pans out might factor into what else _ this case pans out might factor into what else we see happening in the future _ what else we see happening in the future. whether they are settled outside — future. whether they are settled outside whether they go to trial, probably— outside whether they go to trial, probably this will factor in. this could _ probably this will factor in. this could be — probably this will factor in. this could be a _ probably this will factor in. this could be a bruising experience for harry, _ could be a bruising experience for harry, or— could be a bruising experience for harry, or it— could be a bruising experience for harry, or it could be a great success. how the events over the next _ success. how the events over the next few — success. how the events over the next few days goes is going to be cruciat _ next few days goes is going to be cruciat we — next few days goes is going to be crucial. ~ . , next few days goes is going to be crucial. ~ ., , ., ., ., crucial. we are seeing a lot more security on _ crucial. we are seeing a lot more security on the — crucial. we are seeing a lot more security on the road _ crucial. we are seeing a lot more security on the road now. - crucial. we are seeing a lot more security on the road now. i- crucial. we are seeing a lot more security on the road now. i can i crucial. we are seeing a lot more i security on the road now. i can see members of harry's security team which suggests he might be on the way very shortly. but just the fact there are so many cameras here, so many, they are stretching down the street. we are literally centimetres away from each other. it is hard to overstate how big a moment there says, prince harry has chosen to do this, chosen to subject himself to this, chosen to subject himself to this kind of interrogation? it is
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worth pointing _ this kind of interrogation? it is worth pointing out, that this is something that the other royals, we understand, didn't want to happen. what _ understand, didn't want to happen. what we _ understand, didn't want to happen. what we are going to see, some lively— what we are going to see, some lively protesters turning up, i reckon — lively protesters turning up, i reckon. we're going to see some questions — reckon. we're going to see some questions for prince harry and it is goingm _ questions for prince harry and it is going... whether it sets to precedent, i don't know. a lot of the precedent, idon't know. a lot of the other— precedent, i don't know. a lot of the other royal family felt he shouldn't have done it. whether this will set _ shouldn't have done it. whether this will set a _ shouldn't have done it. whether this will set a new precedent, i very much _ will set a new precedent, i very much doubt. i will set a new precedent, i very much doubt-— will set a new precedent, i very much doubt. i do to our viewers, this isjust _ much doubt. i do to our viewers, this isjust the _ much doubt. i do to our viewers, this is just the nature _ much doubt. i do to our viewers, this is just the nature of - much doubt. i do to our viewers, this isjust the nature of live i this is just the nature of live television, there is a lot of press here and there are people trying to take advantage of that opportunity to be heard. there is some protesting going on near us, but hopefully you can still hear us well
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enough. 0ne hopefully you can still hear us well enough. one of the things that were striking from harry's witness statement and his testimony yesterday, isjust how statement and his testimony yesterday, is just how much of his life he said had been directly impacted by actions of the press. he was talking about instancing from when he was 12 years old, he said the press has been hostile to him since birth. the the press has been hostile to him since birth-— the press has been hostile to him since birth. , ,, ., i. since birth. the impression you get from reading _ since birth. the impression you get from reading this _ since birth. the impression you get from reading this statement i since birth. the impression you get from reading this statement it i since birth. the impression you get from reading this statement it has| from reading this statement it has been _ from reading this statement it has been one — from reading this statement it has been one of the, if not the defining feature _ been one of the, if not the defining feature of— been one of the, if not the defining feature of his life, his relationship with the press. since he was _ relationship with the press. since he was a — relationship with the press. since he was a young boy, the earlier storari — he was a young boy, the earlier storari had _ he was a young boy, the earlier storari had in the 90s regarding his mother— storari had in the 90s regarding his mother and — storari had in the 90s regarding his mother and her sadness, alleged when she could _ mother and her sadness, alleged when she could make his birthday party. since _ she could make his birthday party. since then— she could make his birthday party. since then he has been subject of huge _ since then he has been subject of huge interest and huge coverage. he blames— huge interest and huge coverage. he blames the _ huge interest and huge coverage. he blames the press for the death of his mother, he said that. he thinks it was— his mother, he said that. he thinks it was the _ his mother, he said that. he thinks it was the paparazzi who chased
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princess — it was the paparazzi who chased princess diana to her death and it is the _ princess diana to her death and it is the defining feature of his life. it is the defining feature of his life. it has _ is the defining feature of his life. it has culminated in this now. it didn't— it has culminated in this now. it didn't only— it has culminated in this now. it didn't onlyjust destroyed his friendships and relationships as a younger— friendships and relationships as a younger man, but put him in a terrible— younger man, but put him in a terrible mental state, he says. and he thinks _ terrible mental state, he says. and he thinks now it is trying to destroy— he thinks now it is trying to destroy his marriage. it is difficult _ destroy his marriage. it is difficult to overstate, i think, how significant — difficult to overstate, i think, how significant he thinks the press intrusion— significant he thinks the press intrusion has been and how much he loads— intrusion has been and how much he loads the _ intrusion has been and how much he loads the british tabloid media. we. cannot loads the british tabloid media. - cannot overstate that point. it feels like for him this is a moment to expose in detail, a lot of how it has affected him. if we think about it, years before he stepped down from his official duties as a member of the royalfamily, he reveals he was worried his place in the royal family was being undermined by the press. his witness statement, he cited articles based on a room that his biologicalfather cited articles based on a room that his biological father was someone
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else. we should just say that harry's car has just arrived. we are just watching him go into the building. just as before, very brief entrance. prince harry arriving in his car, going into the building at the high court in london. so that is a moment that several of the press have been waiting for, several of the cameras have been waiting. specificallyjust the cameras have been waiting. specifically just to catch that moment. it is very brief, just a few seconds of him pulling up to the door and going in quite quickly. so thatis door and going in quite quickly. so that is pretty much the only view some people here, members of the press, it will get of harry today
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because inside the courtroom, there are no cameras allowed, there are members of the press inside and we have some of our reporters in there it will be able to write about what is going on. there will be a sketch artist as well, but no cameras allowed inside. joe, we have seen harry go in, briefly, what are we expecting today? harry go in, briefly, what are we expecting today?— harry go in, briefly, what are we expecting today? harry go in, briefly, what are we exectin: toda ? ., expecting today? more of the same. i think it is fair — expecting today? more of the same. i think it is fair to _ expecting today? more of the same. i think it is fair to say _ expecting today? more of the same. i think it is fair to say it _ expecting today? more of the same. i think it is fair to say it was _ expecting today? more of the same. i think it is fair to say it was the - think it is fair to say it was the initial— think it is fair to say it was the initial witness statement that has created _ initial witness statement that has created most of the headline so far. the really _ created most of the headline so far. the really explosive accusations and testimony _ the really explosive accusations and testimony he made in this document. after that _ testimony he made in this document. after that we saw a slow, methodical attempt _ after that we saw a slow, methodical attempt to _ after that we saw a slow, methodical attempt to deconstruct his arguments by the _ attempt to deconstruct his arguments by the mirror group newspapers barrister~ — by the mirror group newspapers barrister. i think we are going to see more — barrister. i think we are going to see more of that today. it was five hours _ see more of that today. it was five hours of _ see more of that today. it was five hours of gruelling testimony, cross examination for prince harry and he seemed _ examination for prince harry and he seemed nervous at times, at times,
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relax _ seemed nervous at times, at times, relax he _ seemed nervous at times, at times, relax. he made a joke about the weight— relax. he made a joke about the weight of— relax. he made a joke about the weight of the files he was having to pick up _ weight of the files he was having to pick up. but by the end he seemed tired and _ pick up. but by the end he seemed tired and i— pick up. but by the end he seemed tired and i think we will see another— tired and i think we will see another few hours, i don't know how lon- another few hours, i don't know how long it _ another few hours, i don't know how long it will— another few hours, i don't know how long it will go on, but a continuation, an attempt by the barrister— continuation, an attempt by the barrister to prove, that whilst harry— barrister to prove, that whilst harry might have had a difficult time _ harry might have had a difficult time no — harry might have had a difficult time, no one disputes that, it is entirely— time, no one disputes that, it is entirely possible the mirror group achieved — entirely possible the mirror group achieved these stories through legal and lawful means. that is what they are going _ and lawful means. that is what they are going to— and lawful means. that is what they are going to try to prove.— are going to try to prove. there you have it, are going to try to prove. there you have it. prince _ are going to try to prove. there you have it, prince harry _ are going to try to prove. there you have it, prince harry has _ are going to try to prove. there you have it, prince harry has arrived i have it, prince harry has arrived for his second day of giving evidence at the high court in london. we will be hearing from his lawyer today as well, david sherborne, as this case continues. 0f sherborne, as this case continues. of course, prince harry has alleged the mirror group newspapers are illegally gathered information on him over a long period stretching from as far back as 1996. that case continues and we are here to cover it. i'm at the high court in london,
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state with bbc news. hello there. you've probably noticed the weather not really changing very much over recent times, and that is because high pressure has been firmly dominating, and with high pressure around it has not rained very much anywhere, but in one place in warwickshire, you have to go back to 11th of may, which was the last time it rained, nearly four weeks of dry weather. some of the warmest weather has been across in northern ireland, county tyrone. five of the last nine days have seen temperatures reach 24 degrees, six above average. it was the west that had the highest temperatures again on tuesday, but england, stuck under this area of cloud, had much lower temperatures in many areas. for example, in leek in staffordshire, 18 degrees on monday, 12 degrees on tuesday. we also had some cloud dropping the temperatures in parts of western scotland as well. over the next few hours, we are seeing that cloud again thicken up across parts of england, wales, northern and eastern scotland. you might find a few spots of drizzle although predominantly it will be a dry start to the day on wednesday. the best of the early morning
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sunshine will be across these western areas of the country. there could be a few mist patches clearing and lifting and then the sunshine comes out. i think there is a better chance of seeing the cloud break up across the midlands, east wales, so you probably will see some sunshine but there could be some areas of eastern england again that keep the cloud all day. when that happens, temperatures into the teens but otherwise i think more of us will see temperatures into the low 20s, and with those of sunny conditions out west, we will see some very high levels of pollen building in across parts of england and wales so it could be quite a sneezy day for hayfever sufferers allergic to grass pollen. on thursday there could be a bit of cloud around across eastern areas, probably east scotland, north—east england, the favoured spots for holding onto that, but otherwise, plenty of sunshine around and those temperatures again reaching the mid—20s in the warmest areas. we then start to see a change courtesy of this storm system, storm 0scar which has been bringing some torrential rain to madeira. that is moving to the south—west of the uk and it pushes a load of humid air across the country, and so we will see a change
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lu kwesa live from london, this is bbc news. prince harry is set for another day giving evidence in his privacy case against a newspaper publisher. i'm nancy kacungira live at the high court in london. president zelensky warns hundreds of thousands of people are without normal access to clean drinking water after a major dam was destroyed. pope francis is hospitalised in rome to have abdominal surgery under general anaesthetic.
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0ur our top story at the moment is the latest developments at the high court in london where just a few moments ago prince harry arrived for day to of his evidence against the mirror group. we will be across all the detail of that evidence as it happens. first, let's turn to our other big story this morning, and... president zelensky has warned the destruction of the dam at nova kakhovka in southern ukraine risks leaving hundreds of thousands of people without normal access to drinking water. water from the dam's reservoir has now reached 80 towns on both sides of the dnipro river, causing extensive flooding to buildings and farmland.
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ukrainian authorities say tens of thousands of people are fleeing affected areas. the un's head of humanitarian affairs, martin griffiths, said the breach is one of the most significant incidents of damage to civilian infrastructure since the start of the russian invasion, and will have "grave and far—reaching consequences". john donnison reports. breached, the nova kakhovka dam, now almost unrecognisable. water, seemingly the latest weapon in the war in ukraine. and it's downstream on the dnipro river where the damage has been done. in ukrainian—controlled territory to the west, officials say 17,000 people need to flee their homes. another 25,000 in the russian—occupied east. in kherson, under ukrainian control, there are fears the flooding could become catastrophic. and it's not the only worry. it's dangerous, says catalina. she's not wrong. bomb blast.
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russia pulled out of this city last year, but its forces are not far away. fast, fast, fast, fast! the dam was under russian control. but each side is blaming the other for the apparent attack. translation: tonight, i the kyiv regime committed another terrorist crime. the kakhovka hydroelectric dam was blown up, which led to the flooding of significant territories. translation: the whole world will | know about this russian war crime, | the crime of genocide. such deliberate acts by the russian occupiers of the dam, and other structures of the kakhovka hydropower plant, is an environmental bomb of mass destruction. so what is the significance of the nova kakhovka dam? first, it supplies water to vast swathes of agricultural land including in crimea. but the reservoir behind it also provides water to cool the zaporizhzhia
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nuclear power plant. both areas are under russian control. it looks like a natural disaster. but this was man—made. whoever did this knew that the consequences would be massive. but they were prepared to do it anyway. jon donnison, bbc news. 0ur diplomatic correspondent paul adams has been following events from kyiv. i think the thing to remember is that kherson since it was liberated by ukrainian forces last november has been routinely shelled from across the river, from the russian side, so, none of that has stopped in the wake of yesterday's disaster, and it continues even as that rescue work goes on, i don't think that is any great surprise, i don't think it is a deliberate attempt to target the rescue,
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it is simply that kherson has been shelled all these months. the situation clearly in the city is critical, there are some parts of it which are a lot worse than the pictures that you are looking at now. i have seen scenes from an area where the dnipro and kakhovka rivers join, which are basically underwater, the water has reached rooftop levels, so there are neighbourhoods of kherson that are completely submerged. and that very much echoes the scene elsewhere along the dnipro, where, in these little communities on either side of the river, you are seeing similar scenes, with the river suddenly massively expanded as a result of this huge volume of water that is flooding down from what was a vast reservoir above the dam. that reservoir is emptying and sending great quantities of water down the dnipro river and into the black sea and causing devastation as it goes,
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notjust in those communities where people are living but also agricultural, we are getting briefings now from the ukrainian government saying that they anticipate a really catastrophic impact on agriculture in what is the breadbasket of ukraine, with irrigation systems completely reflect as a result of what has happened. so much depended on the dam, on the reservoir, the drinking supplies, the agricultural water supplies, that all of that system was in control of, and all of that has been destroyed, and it is likely that we will be seeing the consequences of all of that for a long while to come. and there has been devastation and you have described some of it for us there, we haven't seen the full and as far as the nuclear plant is concerned, obviously it is europe's largest, is that still stable? well, most of it is off—line, but it is vitally important that the water from the reservoir
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which is used in the cooling ponds to cool the reactors and the spent rods and basically to cool the entire system, it is vital that that water is maintained. at the moment get the un says that there is no problem with that and that there are other supplies of water that can be used if the level in the reservoir, as is inevitable, drops dramatically over the coming hours and days. i think what we are going to see is that the nuclear plant which was right on the eight this vast reservoir will now be marooned probably miles from the river because the reservoir is going to empty and what we will be left with is a river, the extent of that river will be controlled by the next dam up the river dnipro which is in zaporizhzhia, but it will no longer be controlled by the reservoir. the un did say that in the coming weeks the situation there could become serious
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but at the moment it seems to be a stable situation. in terms of territorial control, how important is the dnipro river in this conflict? well, it is the frontline and it is a big chunk of the front line and obviously a river, a wide river, particularly when it is in some places 10—15 kilometres wide because of the reservoir, forms a very effective barrier to military operations. the kakhovka dam was the only viable crossing point over that river between zaporizhzhia and the sea, and so, from a strategic, military point of view, it had some value. and i would imagine that russian commanders looking at the river, thinking about the broad extent of the front line, 600 miles or so, in which there could be ukrainian attacks, would have thought about that dam and the road bridge that went over it and thought that
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that was a problem for them. and that may be why the dam and the road over it were destroyed. that was our diplomatic correspondent in kyiv, paul adams. 0n the bbc news website you'll find the very latest about what's known about the damage, you can see there too the warning from the un about the impact it's having on thousands of people in the surrounding area, and there are maps and videos. that�*s all at bbc.com/news. ijust want i just want to take you back to kherson to show you those flooded scenes, flooded streets, highly residential area. you can see one of the dinghies on the left—hand side
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of your screen that are currently being used to help evacuate the residents. 0fficials being used to help evacuate the residents. officials have reported that up to 2700 people, certainly we understand today, have been evacuated, it has been described as mass evacuations from the area. 42,000 people are at risk. 0ne mass evacuations from the area. 42,000 people are at risk. one more line that has come to us here, over 30,000 cubic metres of water, released from the reservoir, every second. that is our top story here on bbc news. the other story making the headlines, particularly in the united kingdom, is regarding prince harry. a short time ago he arrived at the high court where he is due to give evidence for a second day in his privacy case against mirror group newspapers. he faced five hours of questioning yesterday over his accusations that the publisher broke the law in order to obtain
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information about his private life. mgn denies the allegations made by prince harry and up to 100 other claimants as well. we can go live to my colleague nancy kacungira, and nancy, just after prince harry entered those doors going into the high court, it got very, very noisy and a little bit rowdy, could you explain to us what was happening? welcome other short story is, so, actually it was a single protester, i know it sounded like many but it was a single protester who was trying to make his voice heard on an issue that he had, and that is why it got rowdy, but otherwise it's been very quiet, really, it was just that one person that was causing a bit of commotion trying to bring awareness to some other issue. but things have quietened down now and
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memos of the press are still here, some of them who reallyjust wanted to snap that photograph of prince harry entering the building have already left so it is a bit quieter now, and all the action has moved inside, prince harry is here to give evidence, this is the second day he is doing that in this case. of course he has alleged that they mirror group newspapers used unlawful means to gather information on him which was then published in their newspapers, he says that this activity was known to senior executives and editors. today he will be giving more evidence, we will be giving more evidence, we will also be hearing from his own lawyer david sherborne and that case continues inside. with me is helander wilkinson, continues inside. with me is helanderwilkinson, our helander wilkinson, our correspondent, we've helanderwilkinson, our correspondent, we've been covering this together. so, what can we expect today? we have seen prince harry go in for a second day of questioning?— harry go in for a second day of truestionin ? , , ., questioning? yes, when his range rover arrived _ questioning? yes, when his range rover arrived here _ questioning? yes, when his range rover arrived here we _ questioning? yes, when his range rover arrived here we saw - questioning? yes, when his range rover arrived here we saw on i questioning? yes, when his range. rover arrived here we saw on either side of— rover arrived here we saw on either side of the —
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rover arrived here we saw on either side of the door, just to give you a flavour— side of the door, just to give you a flavour of— side of the door, just to give you a flavour of the press interest in this case _ flavour of the press interest in this case, and it is global as well, notjust— this case, and it is global as well, notjust in— this case, and it is global as well, notjust in the uk, camera crews set ”p notjust in the uk, camera crews set up either— notjust in the uk, camera crews set up either side of the entrance trying — up either side of the entrance trying to— up either side of the entrance trying to that very best shot, prince — trying to that very best shot, prince harry did go into the building _ prince harry did go into the building very quickly, so they would only have _ building very quickly, so they would only have had a matter of seconds to -et only have had a matter of seconds to get that _ only have had a matter of seconds to get that picture. yesterday, as we have _ get that picture. yesterday, as we have been— get that picture. yesterday, as we have been talking about, prince harry— have been talking about, prince harry spent about five hours in the witness _ harry spent about five hours in the witness box giving evidence and that would _ witness box giving evidence and that would have been a gruelling experience for him because he was under— experience for him because he was under cross— experience for him because he was under cross examination from the barrister— under cross examination from the barrister from the mirror newspaper group _ barrister from the mirror newspaper group side _ barrister from the mirror newspaper group side and it is the job of that barrister— group side and it is the job of that barrister to — group side and it is the job of that barrister to try to undermine prince harry's— barrister to try to undermine prince harry's case — barrister to try to undermine prince harry's case. yesterday there weren't — harry's case. yesterday there weren't any fireworks, no huge battles — weren't any fireworks, no huge battles between the two, but the barrister — battles between the two, but the barrister was picking away at prince harry's _ barrister was picking away at prince harry's evidence and trying to say about _ harry's evidence and trying to say about the — harry's evidence and trying to say about the 33 newspaper articles that prince _ about the 33 newspaper articles that prince harry is relying on, the barrister— prince harry is relying on, the barrister was saying, look, that information could have come from somewhere else, it didn't come from phone _ somewhere else, it didn't come from
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phone hacking, as prince harry alleges, — phone hacking, as prince harry alleges, it— phone hacking, as prince harry alleges, it didn't come from other unlawful— alleges, it didn't come from other unlawful methods. and so what we are lloii'i unlawful methods. and so what we are going to _ unlawful methods. and so what we are going to hearjudaism or cross—examination. i wasjust cross—examination. i was just thinking — cross—examination. i wasjust thinking yesterday after i went home that prince _ thinking yesterday after i went home that prince harry was probably quite jetlagged because he flew in from america _ jetlagged because he flew in from america overnight on monday and yesterday— america overnight on monday and yesterday afternoon you could see he was looking a little bit wary and a little _ was looking a little bit wary and a little bit — was looking a little bit wary and a little bit tired after about five hours — little bit tired after about five hours of _ little bit tired after about five hours of cross—examination. but he will be _ hours of cross—examination. but he will be back— hours of cross—examination. but he will be back in the witness box, we expect— will be back in the witness box, we expect the — will be back in the witness box, we expect the hearing to get under way at around _ expect the hearing to get under way at around 10.30 this morning and he will face _ at around 10.30 this morning and he will face further tough questions. he wilt _ will face further tough questions. he will. he was quite softly spoken yesterday, they had to put his mic up yesterday, they had to put his mic up a few times but it speaks to that sort of calm composure that we saw when he was entering the building, he's carrying that along, he has clearly been prepared well for this? yes, and mentally he would have prepared — yes, and mentally he would have prepared himself well for this, yes, and mentally he would have prepared himself well forthis, he has had _ prepared himself well forthis, he has had a — prepared himself well forthis, he has had a long time to do so, it is a big _ has had a long time to do so, it is a big moment for him, this is as we have _ a big moment for him, this is as we have discussed a very personal
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battle — have discussed a very personal battle for — have discussed a very personal battle for prince harry, one that he can take _ battle for prince harry, one that he can take on. — battle for prince harry, one that he can take on, financially he has the resources, — can take on, financially he has the resources, the money to do it, not everyone _ resources, the money to do it, not everyone does. that's not to forget, and it— everyone does. that's not to forget, and it is— everyone does. that's not to forget, and it is easy— everyone does. that's not to forget, and it is easy to forget, he is not the only— and it is easy to forget, he is not the only claimant in this case, there — the only claimant in this case, there are _ the only claimant in this case, there are three others, four in total. — there are three others, four in total. who _ there are three others, four in total, who are bringing this case against — total, who are bringing this case against the publisher of the mirror newspaper and depending on what the 'ud-e newspaper and depending on what the judge finds and the judgment at the end of— judge finds and the judgment at the end of this, if the newspaper group loses _ end of this, if the newspaper group loses the _ end of this, if the newspaper group loses the case, then they could be making _ loses the case, then they could be making payouts to other people as well who _ making payouts to other people as well who are accusing them of similar— well who are accusing them of similar things.— well who are accusing them of similar thins. �*, ., ,, ., ., similar things. let's take a moment to see what — similar things. let's take a moment to see what is _ similar things. let's take a moment to see what is happening _ similar things. let's take a moment to see what is happening because i to see what is happening because courts around the world are quite different, and this one there are no cameras allowed inside?— cameras allowed inside? exactly. let's also point _ cameras allowed inside? exactly. let's also point out _ cameras allowed inside? exactly. let's also point out that - cameras allowed inside? exactly. let's also point out that this i cameras allowed inside? exactly. let's also point out that this is i let's also point out that this is not a — let's also point out that this is not a criminal trial, this is private _ not a criminal trial, this is private action being brought by prince — private action being brought by prince harry. inside the building there _ prince harry. inside the building there is— prince harry. inside the building there is the main court room, that is where _ there is the main court room, that is where prince harry is, we were talking _ is where prince harry is, we were talking yesterday about the furniture inside the room, it is not
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like a _ furniture inside the room, it is not like a traditional 0ld furniture inside the room, it is not like a traditional old bailey style court _ like a traditional old bailey style court room, it's very modern, like ikea, _ court room, it's very modern, like ikea, is _ court room, it's very modern, like ikea, is what— court room, it's very modern, like ikea, is what one of our correspondents described it as. and so there _ correspondents described it as. and so there is— correspondents described it as. and so there is a — correspondents described it as. and so there is a main court room, there isan— so there is a main court room, there is an annexe — so there is a main court room, there is an annexe where otherjournalists are watching from, and they will be telling _ are watching from, and they will be telling us _ are watching from, and they will be telling us what's going on and we can bring — telling us what's going on and we can bring you all of it as it happens _ can bring you all of it as it happens-— can bring you all of it as it hauens. ~ . ., , can bring you all of it as it ha ens. ~ . ., , ., happens. we certainly welcome helena wilkinson, thank— happens. we certainly welcome helena wilkinson, thank you _ happens. we certainly welcome helena wilkinson, thank you very _ happens. we certainly welcome helena wilkinson, thank you very much. i happens. we certainly welcome helena wilkinson, thank you very much. so i wilkinson, thank you very much. so thatis wilkinson, thank you very much. so that is a flavour of what is happening here, and let's reflect a bit more on what we have seen so far and what we can expect to happen today. i am joined and what we can expect to happen today. iam joined now and what we can expect to happen today. i am joined now by afua hagan who is a journalist and radio commentator. thank you very much for talking to us. we have just seen prince harry arrive for yet another day of questioning, what do you think is going on in his mind? i mean, yesterday, we got a very clear idea of what he was trying to do from his written statement, will he be thinking that this is going well?
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definitely he will be remaining positive, he has to, and he will be thinking, look, he put across his side of the story, he said what he can, he has explained where he can and he will be shored up to make sure that he can continue doing that today. yesterday he seemed quite relaxed walking into court, today he seemed the same, definitely more rested, i agree with your correspondent there that there was probably an element ofjetlag playing its part especially towards the afternoon. he has to be able to remain calm, sometimes he has a bit of a temper, but he did remain very calm all day yesterday and he has to maintain that today, sit in what he believes is his truth and get his point across. i think he will feel that he handled it well yesterday and that he can do the same again today. and that he can do the same again toda . �* �* ., ., . today. and we've heard from prince har in today. and we've heard from prince harry in different _ today. and we've heard from prince harry in different settings _ today. and we've heard from prince harry in different settings before, i harry in different settings before, there has been a netflix series, there has been a netflix series, there has been an 0prah there has been a netflix series, there has been an oprah winfrey interview, there have been different ways in which we have heard from
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him, but this is unique, do you think we're witnessing the start of what is really going to become for him a crusade, because this isjust one of many cases that he has brought against the press? i mean, es, his brought against the press? i mean, yes. his time _ brought against the press? i mean, yes. his time in _ brought against the press? i mean, yes, his time in court _ brought against the press? i mean, yes, his time in court is _ brought against the press? i mean, yes, his time in court is very, i brought against the press? i mean, yes, his time in court is very, very l yes, his time in court is very, very different from the press run for the buck, from appearing on american talk shows, appearing on itv with a friend, or doing an 0prah talk shows, appearing on itv with a friend, or doing an oprah winfrey interview. the lawyer yesterday was very biting, really drilling into the details, started off very polite, but he knows what he has to do, he is on the side of mirror group newspapers so definitely a very different reality in the way he is being spoken to, but absolutely this is the start of his life to work, this is us seeing his lifework in motion. when he was on the press run for spare he spoke movingly about how he wanted to do this, that it is about holding people
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accountable and making sure that individuals can't hide behind organisations or institutions to be able to get the stories that they want, he believes, by illegal means. so, absolutely, this is us seeing him stepping up to the plate and fulfilling what he sees is his commitment to his life to work, this is it in action. he didn't necessarily have to be in court over this week but he has come and done that, he is sitting there and court, ready to be grilled and he's standing there in his belief that he's doing the right thing. brute standing there in his belief that he's doing the right thing. we know that it has been _ he's doing the right thing. we know that it has been a _ he's doing the right thing. we know that it has been a risky _ he's doing the right thing. we know that it has been a risky move, i he's doing the right thing. we know that it has been a risky move, for i that it has been a risky move, for various reasons, it is risky financially, if he loses he will have to pay a lot of money to lawyers, there is always a risk that some of the things coming out import are not necessarily things he would want to talk about but also when we look at his family he has spoken about how the press has caused divisions and rifts within his family, but is his appearance here,
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how is that going to go down with the royal family, is that going to cause more problems?— the royal family, is that going to cause more problems? look, at the end of the day _ cause more problems? look, at the end of the day his _ cause more problems? look, at the end of the day his relationship i end of the day his relationship partially with king charles and with prince william is probably at an all—time low. so i don't think this case will necessarily have an effect on those relationships, it definitely won't speed up a reconciliation but they knew that this day was coming, they knew that he was going to go down this road and they have probably steeled themselves for that. yesterday we saw catherine the princess of on an engagement in windsor, they are keeping calm and they are carrying on, as we can expect them to do. also perhaps we should not expect a response from any members of the royal family anytime soon, either. alright, thank you very much, it is really to get your thoughts, nancy kacungira, thank you forjoining us, journalist and royal commentator. it's now focus on some of the legal aspects of this case because while
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prince harry has made his thoughts and feelings about the tabloid press very clear, what is going to matter in this courtroom is the facts, and we can speak to legal unlessjoshua rozenberg who is in the newsroom for us. joshua, we are onto day two, i would like to hear your thoughts on how you felt harry did as a witness yesterday first of all? i how you felt harry did as a witness yesterday first of all?— yesterday first of all? i think he will feel that _ yesterday first of all? i think he will feel that he _ yesterday first of all? i think he will feel that he dealt _ yesterday first of all? i think he will feel that he dealt with i yesterday first of all? i think he will feel that he dealt with the i will feel that he dealt with the questions that he was asked by andrew greene casey as well as he reasonably could. where he didn't have information, he responded by saying that, you know, you would have to ask the journalist concerned, and he is anxious about the fact that these journalists have not come to give evidence in court, but of course that is not really for the mirror to do, it is for prince harry to prove his case. and if he doesn't have the links between the articles that he's complaining about
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and the illegal activity that he's alleging, the phone hacking or whatever it may be, then he's not going to succeed in proving his case. as you've been explaining, one of the things that he has done is put over his arguments about the tabloid press in the written witness statement that was released yesterday morning, but that in itself is not going to win his case. he has got more questioning today, the barristerfor he has got more questioning today, the barrister for the mirror group newspapers is going through 33 articles and we can see what is likely, he is going to be told, well, how do you link that particular article to this allegation of phone hacking? and unless harry has got more evidence than he was able to produce yesterday, he may be in difficulty. now, that is not fatal because if there is written evidence that the judge can consider, that may be the answer. this is not relying entirely
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on prince harry's recollection, this is relying on evidence submitted to court. but on the other hand, if there isn't the evidence, well, he is not going to be able to prove his case. i is not going to be able to prove his case. ., ~ ., is not going to be able to prove his case, ., " ., , . " is not going to be able to prove his case, ., " ., , j’ , is not going to be able to prove his case. ., ~ ., , a , ., case. i would like to pick up on that because _ case. i would like to pick up on that because that _ case. i would like to pick up on that because that is _ case. i would like to pick up on that because that is something case. i would like to pick up on i that because that is something that stood out to me yesterday, when he would respond in some cases that it is the journalist involved who needed to answer this, but as you say in this case it is up to harry's side to prove these allegations that information was gathered unlawfully, so, just explain to us in a case like this where does the burden of proof lie and what will harry's lawyer be relying on to provide that proof? lawyer be relying on to provide that roof? , ., , , ., proof? the burden of proof lies on the claimant. _ proof? the burden of proof lies on the claimant, and _ proof? the burden of proof lies on the claimant, and harry— proof? the burden of proof lies on the claimant, and harry as - proof? the burden of proof lies on the claimant, and harry as the i the claimant, and harry as the claimant. he has to prove on the balance of rob miller to that his version of what happened is correct. —— on the balance of probably. and
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it was put to him by andrew green yesterday that quite a lot of what he is saying is speculation. yes, there was a story in the paper and yes, he thinks that came from phone hacking, but it could have come from a briefing by his communications secretary, it could have been lifted from another newspaper, something that harry seemed to find rather surprising but for those of us in the business, we would not be surprised at at all. can he prove this? it is notjust his recollection, which is obviously, he is not going to remember things that happen to ten, 15 years ago, particularly if he didn't even read the news story at the time which is something that andrew green established. so, he is relying on expenses claims, as we would call them, invoices, documents which are there to establish that individuals were paid for particular stories and documents carry the name of a particular story and a date, and if these individuals were paid, what were they paid for? and he is arguing that they were paid for unlawful activities rather than just
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being good journalists and finding things out by sniffing around. the judge is going to look at all this evidence, as well as his oral testimony and how he stood up in cross—examination, to see whether he has proved his case, and notjust generally but in each individual claim, and that is why these 33 claims have been selected and it is possible that some stories may be established to be the result of phone hacking and others will not. and joshua, when it comes to the defence, what are they putting forward as their defence, and also, there was a suggestion that one of there was a suggestion that one of the things they mike leigh and on is the things they mike leigh and on is the fact that this has been a very long time since these things happened and this case might be coming too late?—
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happened and this case might be coming too late? there is an issue about what — coming too late? there is an issue about what is _ coming too late? there is an issue about what is called _ coming too late? there is an issue about what is called the _ coming too late? there is an issue about what is called the limitation | about what is called the limitation period. basically in a civil claim like this, you've got six years to bring a claim. now, if you didn't know you had a claim, then you have longer, you have six years from the time that you knew you had a claim. but some of these allegations go back to the time when he was at prep school, 20 years also, longer. so, in those circumstances it can be argued by the defendants, mirror group newspapers, that he simply waited too long. now, he says he didn't know these stories were the result of phone hacking. now that is fine but the question is, should he have known? if he should have known, and obviously there was a lot of publicity, then he may be out of time. ., ., ., time. oh, right. i am afraid i will have to leave _ time. oh, right. i am afraid i will have to leave it _ time. oh, right. i am afraid i will have to leave it there _ time. oh, right. i am afraid i will have to leave it there for - time. oh, right. i am afraid i will have to leave it there for now, i have to leave it there for now, joshua, but thank you very much, joshua, but thank you very much,
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joshua rozenberg. you're watching bbc news, i'm nancy kacungira live from the high court in london. hello again. 0verthe from the high court in london. hello again. over the last we while high pressure has been firmly in charge of our weather and we have had similar conditions on a daily basis and not much rain to talk of. in church law for the last day it rained was the 11th of may but that is about to change. this storm is moving up from the bay of biscay and as it crosses our shores with this weather front it is going to introduce some heavy, thundery showers, not all of us will catch on, but some of them could be torrential. 0ne weather being picked up torrential. 0ne weather being picked up from the neo continent and it is going to be pushed across our shores so it will be turning warmer for us but also more humid by day and by night. what we have today is all those cloud along the east coast
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pushing towards the east coast, sunny day in the midlands than yesterday but a lot of dry weather, outside chance of a shower in the highlands and still this keen breeze coming in. highs up to about 25 in central and southern england but pollen levels today across much of england and a lot of whales are high or very high. this evening and overnight, more cloud comes in from the north sea, pushing west, still this keen breeze in the south east and english channel, where we have clear skies in western areas, temperatures could fall away to 3—4, but generally we are looking at 7-10. but generally we are looking at 7—10. tomorrow after a cloudy start this cloud will break up more readily than tutor and more of us will see some sunshine. still areas of cloud in parts of the north sea coastline, here, temperatures between 11 and 17 degrees but again, somewhere in central, southern england could well reach 25 degrees. moving into friday, again we are
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looking at some cloud across parts of the east coast and brighter across east anglia and the south—east, and you can see also the showers are starting to come in towards the south—west where we have got highs of up to 23—24, maybe even a bit higher. into the weekend by the thundery downpours pushing steadily north—east woods, not all of us will catch on, temperatures are on the up towards the high 20s and it is going to feel humid.
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this is bbc news, the headlines: hundreds of thousands of people in ukraine are without drinking water after a major dam in the country's south was destroyed. some neighbourhoods are completely submerged by floodwaters. also, prince harry arrives at the high court in london for day two of his evidence in his privacy case against a newspaper publisher. we will be live outside the high court. also, pope francis is hospitalised in rome to have abdominal surgery under general anaesthetic this afternoon.
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0ne one of ourtop one of our top stories is the unfolding events in ukraine where president zelensky has warned the description of the dam in nova kakhovka in southern ukraine risks leaving hundreds of thousands of people without normal access to drinking water. water from the dam's reservoir has reached 80 towns on both sides of the dnipro river, causing extensive flooding to buildings and farmland. ukrainian authorities say tens of thousands of people are fleeing affected areas. martin griffiths said the breach will have grave and far—reaching consequences. meanwhile, moscow and kyiv both blame each other for the destruction of the dam. james waterhouse has been to qassam to see some of the damage for himself. we thought this was the banks of the
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river dnipro, but it is not, you can see the top of a truck and a roof, we have just seen a rescue boat go past. this is the level of the water has reached so far but authorities are nervous they will go higher because of a surge further up the dnipro river. 0ne because of a surge further up the dnipro river. one woman we have spoken to said her neighbours are trapped and is incredibly worried about them. when you are in this part of kherson, the level of risk goes up because of the frequent shelling from russian positions not far away. you think about everything people have gone through, with the occupation by russian forces, the subsequent liberation, the heavy fighting. and now this. it is a lot for people to take. this is a city forever remoulded by the events of the past year. that was james waterhouse on his recent visit to kherson following the destruction of the dam. paul adams has also been
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following developments from kyiv. i think the thing to remember is that kherson since it was liberated by ukrainian forces last november has shelled from across the river, from the russian side, so, none of that has stopped in the wake of yesterday's disaster, and it continues even as that rescue work goes on, i don't think that is any great surprise, i don't think it is a deliberate attempt to target the rescue, it is simply that kherson has been shelled all these months. the situation clearly in the city is critical, there are some parts of it which are a lot worse than the pictures that you are looking at now. i have seen scenes from an area where the dnipro and kakhovka rivers join, which are basically underwater, the water has reached rooftop levels, so there are neighbourhoods of kherson that are completely submerged. and that very much echoes the scene
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elsewhere along the dnipro, where, in these little communities on either side of the river, you are seeing similar scenes, with the river suddenly massively expanded as a result of this huge volume of water that is flooding down from what was a vast reservoir above the dam. that reservoir is emptying and sending colossal quantities of water down the dnipro river and into the black sea and causing devastation as it goes, notjust in those communities where people are living but also agricultural, we are getting briefings now from the ukrainian government saying that they anticipate a really catastrophic impact on agriculture in what is the breadbasket of ukraine, with irrigation systems completely reflect as a result of what has happened. so much depended on the dam, on the reservoir, the drinking
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supplies, the agricultural water supplies, that all of that system was in control of, and all of that has been destroyed, and it is likely that we will be seeing the consequences of all of that for a long while to come. as as far as the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, obviously it is europe's largest, is that still stable? well, most of it is off—line, but it is vitally important that the water from the reservoir which is used in the cooling ponds to cool the reactors and the spent rods and basically to cool the entire system, it is vital that that water is maintained. at the moment get the un says that there is no problem with that and that there are other supplies of water that can be used if the level in the reservoir, as is inevitable, drops dramatically over the coming hours and days. i think what we are going to see is that the nuclear plant which was right on the eight this vast reservoir will now be marooned probably miles from the river because the reservoir
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is going to empty and what we will be left with is a river, the extent of that river will be controlled by the next dam up the river dnipro which is in zaporizhzhia, but it will no longer be sitting next to the reservoir. the un did say yesterday that in the coming weeks the situation there could become serious but at the moment it seems to be a stable situation. in terms of territorial control, how important is the dnipro river in this conflict? well, it is the front line and it is a big chunk of the front line and obviously a river, a wide river, particularly when it is in some places 10—15 kilometres wide because of the reservoir, forms a very effective barrier to military operations.
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the kakhovka dam was the only viable crossing point over that river between zaporizhzhia and the sea, and so, from a strategic, military point of view, it had some value. and i would imagine that russian commanders looking at the river, thinking about the broad extent of the front line, 600 miles or so, in which there could be ukrainian attacks, would have thought about that dam and the road bridge that went over it and thought that that was a problem for them. and that may be why the dam and the road over it were destroyed. that was our diplomatic correspondent in kyiv, paul adams. these are live pictures coming to us from kherson. what you can see is, i think the families that have been
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evacuated. looks like it is a pet evacuation, i am seeing a lot of pet boxes and residents. but there are also scenes, there it is, of the water. that water should not be there, should not be in the streets of kherson. that is part of the floodwaters that have come from the nova kakhovka. we haven't had confirmation yet of how that was damaged. but in terms of the impact it is having, the knock—on effect on crusts will be significant. in terms of evacuations, officials are saying that it of evacuations, officials are saying thatitis of evacuations, officials are saying that it is between 2700 residents that it is between 2700 residents that have been evacuated. a little bit more coming to us. the dam is
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facing risk of contamination after the dam burst, one of the cemeteries has been flooded. this is coming from a russian installed official in kherson, who also goes on to say that this has caused a huge catastrophe and over 30,000 cubic metres of water are being released from the reservoir every second. that coming from the russian installed official. 0ne that coming from the russian installed official. one of the rescue dinghies going across the screen. the un also expressing concern over what has taken place. important to realise the geneva conventions explicitly ban targeting dams in water due to the danger to civilians. and president zelensky has also been saying that he hopes the level of flooding, the water
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levels. flooding by the end of wednesday. so wednesday is today. a lot more details on the bbc news website. he will find the very latest detail, the very latest developments as we get them here as well, you can learn more about the damage and the warning as i hinted from the un about the impact it is having on thousands of people in the surrounding area. there are lots of maps and videos. that is our top story. so the latest events in ukraine and the destruction of the nova kakhovka dam. another story developing today is that the pope is set to have surgery on his abdomen later on wednesday. pope francis has been admitted to rome's jamali hospital where he said to undergo
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the operation under general anaesthetic. also, prince harry is in the witness box set to give evidence against the mirror newsgroup, over his accusations that the publisher broke the law to obtain information about his private life. mgn denies all the allegations. let's cross live to the high court where prince harry has started giving his evidence. is that right, nancy? started giving his evidence. is that right. nancy?— right, nancy? yes, that is correct. he is in the _ right, nancy? yes, that is correct. he is in the witness _ right, nancy? yes, that is correct. he is in the witness box _ right, nancy? yes, that is correct. he is in the witness box and i right, nancy? yes, that is correct. he is in the witness box and is - right, nancy? yes, that is correct. | he is in the witness box and is now being cross—examined by the mirror's loya andrew green. i understand they are currently talking about an
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article called harry carry, about any injury. but it is really about delving into each of these 33 articles that harry's side has picked out to go through. and for each of those, it is back and forth with the mirror�*s barrister saying there is a lot of information in here that could have come from lots of different sources, whether the palace or his friends, not from unlawful means such as phone tapping. that is what is going on, prince harry arrived a few minutes ago and the case is under way. let's beat to hell wilkinson, a correspondence with me. we are expecting more of the same today? yes, day two, four prince harry. photographers trying to get the best shot they— photographers trying to get the best shot they could to get into the
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courtroom. the court room is pretty clinical. _ courtroom. the court room is pretty clinical. it's— courtroom. the court room is pretty clinical, it's not like the victorian— clinical, it's not like the victorian old bailey traditional courtroom that one might expect. this is— courtroom that one might expect. this is part — courtroom that one might expect. this is part of the high court and in the _ this is part of the high court and in the courtroom where prince harry is at the _ in the courtroom where prince harry is at the moment. as you said, he is in the _ is at the moment. as you said, he is in the witness — is at the moment. as you said, he is in the witness box. he went into the witness _ in the witness box. he went into the witness box — in the witness box. he went into the witness box about 12 minutes ago but the court _ witness box about 12 minutes ago but the court room is modern, strip lighting~ — the court room is modern, strip lighting. he sat at a desk and has a computer— lighting. he sat at a desk and has a computer screen front of him. he is at the _ computer screen front of him. he is at the moment currently facing cross—examination. so at the moment currently facing cross—examination. 50 questions from the barrister, — cross—examination. 50 questions from the barrister, once again, andrew green _ the barrister, once again, andrew green kc — the barrister, once again, andrew green kg a — the barrister, once again, andrew green kc. a barrister who has been described _ green kc. a barrister who has been described as a beast in court. known for his— described as a beast in court. known for his cross—examination and prince harry— for his cross—examination and prince harry spent— for his cross—examination and prince harry spent about five hours yesterday in court under cross examination. it would have been intense — examination. it would have been intense for— examination. it would have been intense for him. there weren't any fireworks — intense for him. there weren't any fireworks yesterday, a lot of back and forth — fireworks yesterday, a lot of back and forth with the barrister, trying
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to pick— and forth with the barrister, trying to pick holes in prince harry's evidence _ to pick holes in prince harry's evidence. what prince harry has to do, evidence. what prince harry has to do. he _ evidence. what prince harry has to do. he has — evidence. what prince harry has to do, he has to prove his case, the burden— do, he has to prove his case, the burden of— do, he has to prove his case, the burden of proof is on prince harry and he _ burden of proof is on prince harry and he has — burden of proof is on prince harry and he has selected 33 articles which — and he has selected 33 articles which he — and he has selected 33 articles which he says information in them has been — which he says information in them has been gathered byjournalists using _ has been gathered byjournalists using unlawful methods. he claims bhone _ using unlawful methods. he claims phone hacking was also used as well. this is— phone hacking was also used as well. this is something the mirror group newspapers deny. he is in the witness — newspapers deny. he is in the witness box at the moment facing those _ witness box at the moment facing those questions from the barrister. as you _ those questions from the barrister. as you have — those questions from the barrister. as you have mentioned, during proceedings yesterday we didn't see what you could call a smoking gun, no dramatic reveal of a journalist who came up to speak and said, i did this unlawfully for the paper. so it is not that type of case, this is more about methodically going through these articles. and it is really going to come down to the judge in ferring where this information could have come from? yes, exactly. what thejudge
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information could have come from? yes, exactly. what the judge can consider— yes, exactly. what the judge can consider is — yes, exactly. what the judge can consider is the witness statement we -ot consider is the witness statement we got sight _ consider is the witness statement we got sight of yesterday morning. that is the _ got sight of yesterday morning. that is the witness statement in prince harry's— is the witness statement in prince harry's words where we heard, didn't we and _ harry's words where we heard, didn't we and we — harry's words where we heard, didn't we and we read a lot about the distress — we and we read a lot about the distress these articles date back to when _ distress these articles date back to when he _ distress these articles date back to when he was a teenager, prince harry claims _ when he was a teenager, prince harry claims his— when he was a teenager, prince harry claims his phone was hacked when he was as— claims his phone was hacked when he was as young as a teenager at eton college. — was as young as a teenager at eton college. and how the newspaper articles— college. and how the newspaper articles caused him paranoia, he said _ articles caused him paranoia, he said he — articles caused him paranoia, he said. he ended up not trusting anybody— said. he ended up not trusting anybody and how awful he said that was for _ anybody and how awful he said that was for such a young boy. yes, the judge _ was for such a young boy. yes, the judge will— was for such a young boy. yes, the judge will be — was for such a young boy. yes, the judge will be considering a number of things — judge will be considering a number of things. the witness statements that was— of things. the witness statements that was produced and also prince harry's— that was produced and also prince harry's evidence in the witness box under— harry's evidence in the witness box under cross — harry's evidence in the witness box under cross examination. he will be looking _ under cross examination. he will be looking at— under cross examination. he will be looking at all the articles that prince — looking at all the articles that prince harry is putting at the very heart _ prince harry is putting at the very heart of _ prince harry is putting at the very heart of this case. and as we have discussed. — heart of this case. and as we have discussed, yet the burden of proof is on _ discussed, yet the burden of proof is on prince — discussed, yet the burden of proof is on prince harry, he has to prove this case _ is on prince harry, he has to prove this case and — is on prince harry, he has to prove this case and it is not like a criminal— this case and it is not like a criminal trial where there is a prosecution and it has to be beyond
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reasonable — prosecution and it has to be beyond reasonable doubt. in this case, this is a private — reasonable doubt. in this case, this is a private case being brought by prince _ is a private case being brought by prince harry and it will be on the balance — prince harry and it will be on the balance of— prince harry and it will be on the balance of probability. so a slightly— balance of probability. so a slightly lower threshold. so prince harry _ slightly lower threshold. so prince harry at _ slightly lower threshold. so prince harry at the moment facing those questions — harry at the moment facing those questions and as you mention, the barrister— questions and as you mention, the barrister is — questions and as you mention, the barrister is on to one of the other articles— barrister is on to one of the other articles going through this article is one _ articles going through this article is one by— articles going through this article is one by one and trying to undermine, that is hisjob, trying to undermine prince harry's case. there _ to undermine prince harry's case. there is— to undermine prince harry's case. there is an — to undermine prince harry's case. there is an interesting line coming out of the room from tom simon's. he said prince harry has already been asked a key question in this case, what does he think makes a story in the public interest. yesterday he said there is a difference between what is in the public interest in what is in the public interest in what is in the public interest in what is interest to the public. prince harry said he doesn't want to speculate that an injury suffered by
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him is in the public interest. he said my girlfriends, when i am at the pub, that is not in the public interest. so gathering information, especially by unlawful means, that is what he is trying to put a focus on. ~ . is what he is trying to put a focus on, ~ ., ., is what he is trying to put a focus on. . ., ., ., , ., is what he is trying to put a focus on. we are hearing he was worried to co on. we are hearing he was worried to no to the on. we are hearing he was worried to go to the doctor _ on. we are hearing he was worried to go to the doctor while _ on. we are hearing he was worried to go to the doctor while he _ on. we are hearing he was worried to go to the doctor while he was - on. we are hearing he was worried to go to the doctor while he was at - go to the doctor while he was at eton— go to the doctor while he was at eton as — go to the doctor while he was at eton as a — go to the doctor while he was at eton as a teenager, because he was so concerned that the medical details — so concerned that the medical details and why he went to the doctor. — details and why he went to the doctor, he was concerned that that information— doctor, he was concerned that that information would end up in the paper — information would end up in the paper. we — information would end up in the paper. we also heard that he played up paper. we also heard that he played up to _ paper. we also heard that he played up to the _ paper. we also heard that he played up to the role he said the papers created — up to the role he said the papers created this role is prince harry being _ created this role is prince harry being thick, as he said in his words — being thick, as he said in his words. that is something he then played _ words. that is something he then played up — words. that is something he then played up to as a result of that. and that — played up to as a result of that. and that is _ played up to as a result of that. and that is the public interest line coming _ and that is the public interest line coming out of court at the moment. as you _ coming out of court at the moment. as you say, — coming out of court at the moment. as you say, that is a key question that is— as you say, that is a key question that is being asked in this case, what _ that is being asked in this case, what does — that is being asked in this case, what does prince harry think makes a story in— what does prince harry think makes a story in the _ what does prince harry think makes a story in the public interest. so he
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is being _ story in the public interest. so he is being pushed by the barrister on that _ is being pushed by the barrister on that. . , , , is being pushed by the barrister on that. ., , , , ., ., is being pushed by the barrister on that. ., , , ,., ., , that. that brings us to some of why this case is — that. that brings us to some of why this case is not _ that. that brings us to some of why this case is notjust _ that. that brings us to some of why this case is notjust about _ that. that brings us to some of why this case is notjust about prince i this case is notjust about prince harry. there are three other claimants in this particular test case. at over 100 other people with lawsuits against this particular newsgroup. so this is a problem that is much wider than prince harry it would seem. it is much wider than prince harry it would seem-— is much wider than prince harry it would seem. it is much wider. it is eas to would seem. it is much wider. it is easy to forget _ would seem. it is much wider. it is easy to forget there _ would seem. it is much wider. it is easy to forget there are _ would seem. it is much wider. it is easy to forget there are other - easy to forget there are other claimants in this case. if you look around, _ claimants in this case. if you look around, the — claimants in this case. if you look around, the number of camera crews, photographers from across the world we have _ photographers from across the world we have met over the last couple of days _ we have met over the last couple of days there — we have met over the last couple of days. there is huge interest, not 'ust days. there is huge interest, not just the — days. there is huge interest, not just the legal side of what is going on in _ just the legal side of what is going on in court — just the legal side of what is going on in court and the evidence we are hearing. _ on in court and the evidence we are hearing. but— on in court and the evidence we are hearing, but also the spectacle of a senior— hearing, but also the spectacle of a senior member of the royal family giving _ senior member of the royal family giving evidence in the witness box and being — giving evidence in the witness box and being cross—examined. that hasn't _ and being cross—examined. that hasn't happened as we have been discussing — hasn't happened as we have been discussing for over 100 years. it is a huge _ discussing for over 100 years. it is a huge moment for prince harry, he is a nran— a huge moment for prince harry, he is a man on— a huge moment for prince harry, he is a man on a — a huge moment for prince harry, he is a man on a mission, he wants to come _
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is a man on a mission, he wants to come and — is a man on a mission, he wants to come and have his day in court, as we have _ come and have his day in court, as we have been saying all along and he, in _ we have been saying all along and he, in his— we have been saying all along and he, in his words, he wants to change the landscape in terms of the media landscape — the landscape in terms of the media landscape. we have heard about the distress _ landscape. we have heard about the distress he — landscape. we have heard about the distress he says all of these articles— distress he says all of these articles caused him. yesterday in court _ articles caused him. yesterday in court in _ articles caused him. yesterday in court in the — articles caused him. yesterday in court in the witness statement, he also said _ court in the witness statement, he also said that the press were hostile — also said that the press were hostile towards him since birth. so this goes— hostile towards him since birth. so this goes back years and years for prince _ this goes back years and years for prince harry and he will be fighting in that— prince harry and he will be fighting in that courtroom, in that witness box but _ in that courtroom, in that witness box but we — in that courtroom, in that witness box but we have seen, he has kept very calm — box but we have seen, he has kept very calm under pressure. he box but we have seen, he has kept very calm under pressure.- very calm under pressure. he has, but it cannot _ very calm under pressure. he has, but it cannot be _ very calm under pressure. he has, but it cannot be easy _ very calm under pressure. he has, but it cannot be easy for— very calm under pressure. he has, but it cannot be easy for him. - very calm under pressure. he has, but it cannot be easy for him. he l but it cannot be easy for him. he said how difficult it is to dredge all the stuff up again for the purposes of this court case. but this is, as he says, his life's work. he has several cases like this pending, between him and meghan they have seven others against the british tabloids and they have cases in america as well. it seems this is a defining moment for what he might
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spend a lot of his life doing from this point on?— spend a lot of his life doing from this point on? absolutely. this is what he wants _ this point on? absolutely. this is what he wants to _ this point on? absolutely. this is what he wants to do. _ this point on? absolutely. this is what he wants to do. moving - this point on? absolutely. this is - what he wants to do. moving forward, as you _ what he wants to do. moving forward, as you mentioned, there are a number of other— as you mentioned, there are a number of other cases, this is the first one _ of other cases, this is the first one that — of other cases, this is the first one that has reached trial, so reached — one that has reached trial, so reached this stage. but he has cases against _ reached this stage. but he has cases against a _ reached this stage. but he has cases against a number of other publishers. we saw him turn up to court _ publishers. we saw him turn up to court recently for one of the other cases _ court recently for one of the other cases we — court recently for one of the other cases. we will see a lot of him and it does— cases. we will see a lot of him and it does absolutely feel like this is going _ it does absolutely feel like this is going to — it does absolutely feel like this is going to be something we will see prince _ going to be something we will see prince harry do over the next couple of years _ prince harry do over the next couple of years as — prince harry do over the next couple of years. as we know, court cases take _ of years. as we know, court cases take a _ of years. as we know, court cases take a long — of years. as we know, court cases take a long time to get to trial, if they get— take a long time to get to trial, if they get to — take a long time to get to trial, if they get to trial. prince harry didn't— they get to trial. prince harry didn't to _ they get to trial. prince harry didn't to settle out of court on this one — didn't to settle out of court on this one and it is likely he will not want _ this one and it is likely he will not want to on any of the other ones. — not want to on any of the other ones, because he wants to be in court _ ones, because he wants to be in court to— ones, because he wants to be in court to tell the public and the world — court to tell the public and the world what he thinks the newspapers have done _ world what he thinks the newspapers have done. . .. world what he thinks the newspapers have done. ., ,, , ., , world what he thinks the newspapers have done. . ~' ,, , . have done. thank you very much, helena wilkinson, _ have done. thank you very much, helena wilkinson, our _ have done. thank you very much, - helena wilkinson, our correspondent. this is very much a crusade for
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prince harry, but we have heard a lot about what he thinks of the tabloid press. in this courtroom it is going to boil down what the facts say about how information was gathered in these particular cases. let's speak to legal analyst, joshua rosenberg about some of the ins and outs of exactly how the court case will work. joshua, i think one of the things i was speaking with helena which is quite interesting, is the question of what is in the public interest? which is something harry and the publisher's lawyer andrew green were going back and forth about. when it comes to what the judge will forth about. when it comes to what thejudge will consider forth about. when it comes to what the judge will consider and the legal considerations, is that a big issue,is legal considerations, is that a big issue, is it something thejudge will be looking at, the public interest when it comes to what these papers were reporting about harry? to be honest, i think thejudge is to be honest, i think the judge is more _ to be honest, i think the judge is more concerned about whether prince
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harry can _ more concerned about whether prince harry can prove that the papers behaved — harry can prove that the papers behaved unlawfully. prince harry was asked _ behaved unlawfully. prince harry was asked what— behaved unlawfully. prince harry was asked what he thought would be in the public— asked what he thought would be in the public interest and he suggested a life—threatening injury might be. what _ a life—threatening injury might be. what he _ a life—threatening injury might be. what he is — a life—threatening injury might be. what he is saying, if he was in serious — what he is saying, if he was in serious condition, then it be appropriate for the papers to publish — appropriate for the papers to publish information about him. i suppose — publish information about him. i suppose he is implying that might be something that if they were able to find this— something that if they were able to find this out by using what journalists call the black outs, then _ journalists call the black outs, then that _ journalists call the black outs, then that might be appropriate. but let's compare that with what he is being _ let's compare that with what he is being asked about now, this particular article from 2005 with the headline, harry carrie! this was in the _ the headline, harry carrie! this was in the people, and it has a large photograph of him in fatigues. he said the _ photograph of him in fatigues. he said the person who wrote it is well— known as having said the person who wrote it is
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well—known as having used unlawful information gathering techniques himself— information gathering techniques himself and there is a habitual commission of private investigator. that is— commission of private investigator. that is how— commission of private investigator. that is how he is trying to lick the story— that is how he is trying to lick the story to _ that is how he is trying to lick the story to what he regards as unlawful behaviour~ _ story to what he regards as unlawful behaviour. the article reported he was being — behaviour. the article reported he was being let off daily marches at sandhurst because of a long—standing in'ury sandhurst because of a long—standing injury to _ sandhurst because of a long—standing injury to his— sandhurst because of a long—standing injury to his knee and included guotes— injury to his knee and included quotes from insiders at the military academy— quotes from insiders at the military academy about the injury and the treatment and so on. it also says he used _ treatment and so on. it also says he used the _ treatment and so on. it also says he used the computers at sandhurst for 50 minutes — used the computers at sandhurst for 50 minutes a day to exchange e—mails with his _ 50 minutes a day to exchange e—mails with his then— 50 minutes a day to exchange e—mails with his then girlfriend, chelsy davy— with his then girlfriend, chelsy davy and — with his then girlfriend, chelsy davy and he always came back with a smile _ davy and he always came back with a smile on— davy and he always came back with a smile on his — davy and he always came back with a smile on his face. and he says he has seen — smile on his face. and he says he has seen what he refers to as a contributions request payment, a bill, invoice dated may 2005, which wasjust— bill, invoice dated may 2005, which wasjust the day bill, invoice dated may 2005, which was just the day of the publication by the _ was just the day of the publication by the people of that particular story. — by the people of that particular story. a — by the people of that particular story, a charge of £150 and he has
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been _ story, a charge of £150 and he has been shown— story, a charge of £150 and he has been shown call data relating to calls with — been shown call data relating to calls with his own communications secretary. — calls with his own communications secretary, sharing what he regards as a suspicious call made to him the day before _ as a suspicious call made to him the day before the article appeared. as such he _ day before the article appeared. as such he infers and he believes that the information in this article came from _ the information in this article came from unlawful information gathering. although _ from unlawful information gathering. although i _ from unlawful information gathering. although i don't know what is being said to _ although i don't know what is being said to him — although i don't know what is being said to him by andrew green at the moment. _ said to him by andrew green at the moment. i— said to him by andrew green at the moment, i suspect that andrea green is suggesting to him that this information could have come from perfectly— information could have come from perfectly legitimate sources. -- andrew perfectly legitimate sources. » andrew green. that is quite interesting, what you are saying in terms of there being this link to behaviour that this mirror newsgroup is accused of engaging and in the past. of course, the group has paid millions of pounds before and claims that were settled out of court, so that were settled out of court, so thatis that were settled out of court, so that is a consideration they are likely trying to draw distinctions between harry and his team, that is.
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but we are here at the high court in london where proceedings continue. prince harry is giving evidence in his second day of testimony. he is in the witness box now and asjoshua mentioned there, they are now going through some of those specific articles. there are 33 in total, they got through most of them yesterday and there is about ten more to go through today. andrew green, representing the publishers is methodically going through each of these articles and he is trying to prove that the sources for these stories could have come from other means other than what harry alleges, which is that the information for these stories came from unlawful means, such as phone hacking. the case continues in this court behind me. we will bring you all the latest as it happens. stay with us on bbc
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news. we have had similar conditions on a daily basis and that much in the way of rain to talk up. in church longford, the last date range was the 11th of may. but that is about to change. storm oscar, named by the spanish met service is moving up from the bay of biscay. as it crosses our shows with this weather front it will introduce thundery, heavy showers. the showers, not all will catch one, but some could beat torrential. high pressure is pushed toward scandinavia and it is picking up toward scandinavia and it is picking up this warm weather from the near continent and it is going to be pushed across our shows. it will turn warmer for us but more pushed across our shows. it will turn warmerfor us but more humid by day and by night. what we have today is this cloud along the east coast pushing towards the east coast. sunny day in the midlands and yesterday, but a lot of dry weather
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and an outside chance of a shower in the high lands and this keen breeze coming across the south—east and english channel. cooler on the east coast, highs up to 25 in central southern england. the pollen levels across much of england and all of wales are high or very high. as we go through the evening and overnight, more cloud comes in from the north sea pushing west, still this team breeze in the south—eastern english channel. we have clear skies and western areas, temperatures can fall away to three or [i temperatures can fall away to three or 4 degrees but generally are looking at seven, 10 degrees. after a cloudy start tomorrow, clive will break up more readily and more of us will see some sunshine. still areas of cloud in parts of the north sea coastline, temperatures between 11 and 17 degrees. but again, somewhere in central, southern england could reach 25 degrees. as we move into friday, we are looking at some cloud across parts of the east coast, brighter across east anglia and also the south—east. you can see also the
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shower starting to come in towards the south—west. we have highs of up to 23, possibly 2a, maybe even that little bit higher. but as we head into the weekend, those thundery downpours push steadily north eastwards, not all of us will catch one. temperatures on the up towards the high 20s and it is going to feel humid.
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