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president zelensky says hundreds of thousands of people have been left without clean drinking water after the attack on a durham in southern ukraine. vladimir putin has blamed kyiv for the destruction, calling it barbaric. prince harry tells the high court there has been industrial scale destruction of evidence of phone hacking by the newspapers that he is suing. i'm nancy kacungira live outside the high court in london where prince harry was cross examined in his privacy case, he focussed on past tabloid coverage he's labelled �*incredibly suspicious�*. the personal data of more than 100,000 people is said to bein in the hands of a cyber gang suspected to be russian.
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welcome to verified live,three hours of breaking stories, and checking out the truth behind them. of breaking stories, and checking the authorities in ukraine say more than 40,000 people are at risk from flooding, after a major dam in the south of the country, was attacked and collapsed yesterday. presdent putin has blamed ukraine for the attack calling it "a barbaric act". while kyiv and moscow blame each other, once again it's civilians paying a heavy price for russia's war. this is the scene in the city of kherson — entire houses and streets submerged underwater. some people waiting to be rescued in affected areas have been forced to spend the night on their roofs or in trees as the waters rose. the dam supplies water to large tracts of agricultural land, including in crimea. and the reservoir behind it provides water to cool the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant further upriver. both areas are currently
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under russian control. united nations says the collapse of the dam will have grave and far—reaching consequences. let's get more now on the situation in ukraine, here'sjames waterhouse in kherson. in all the devastating dimensions of russia's invasion, kherson has experienced the most, a city submerged with fears the worst are still to come. the dnipro river hasjust got a whole lot wider. 0n kherson�*s underwater streets, people do they can. people do what they can. translation: there was panic- yesterday, we had to grab everything quickly and take the five dogs with us. my brother is half paralysed and can barely walk. so that's what happened. we all hope the flood wouldn't be this severe. there is someone living alone on the third floor with their pets. a man and wife on the fifth floor are effectively hostages. if there is any help coming. we are not sure if the emergency services can enter the building, but they need to know
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there are more people there. please help. 40,000 people need evacuating, according to the authorities. police have only been able to get 1300 out so far. that's only ukrainians on the river bank kyiv controls. as you try and get closer to the river, you are met with this, it has come to you, effectively. you can see individual rooftops, we have seen rescue boats go past, trying to pick up people who are trapped. but you can tell by the atmosphere that people have had enough. this is a city that has been both occupied, then liberated. it comes underfrequent shelling, and now this. russia may have retreated from here, but they're a constant presence. the kakhovka dam upstream has been leveraged by ukraine and russia for nine years. when moscow first annexed crimea, the ukrainian authorities shut it
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down to cut the peninsular off from water. last year kyiv accused invading forces of planting it with explosives, which the kremlin denied. one side has played its full hand, with endless consequences. that was james waterhouse. let's look in a bit more detail now at what we know about the dam breach. rajini vaidyanathan has been working with the bbc verify team and has more. as you have been reporting, there are a lot of theories as to why the dam was breached. the team at bbc verify has been looking at what has been happening. we know ukraine accuses russia of blowing up the dam and there have been reports in the media that us intelligence also points the blame at russia, although no information has been made public by the us government on that. we have been looking at satellite imaging to try to get a better picture as to what happened. this is from the 28th may,
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several days before the catastrophic breach of the dam. we can go in a little bit here, and you can see the dam in full working order. it is all intact, a hydroelectric dam, so you can see some water coming away from the turbines. that is on the 28th. what's crucial, is when we go to this image here, from the 4th ofjune, a couple of days before that massive breach. what's significant is what's in the red circle there. you can see that actually the dam was already damaged in some way. you can see bits of it there. that's two days before that catastrophic breach. if we go over to the final satellite image, this is from the 6th ofjune and you can see how badly damaged it ended up being. completely destroyed in the middle, and the water gushing through. and as we saw from our colleague james waterhouse, we saw the impact of that on the ground. what these two images tell
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us is that something happened on the 4th ofjune. either something happened on the 4th ofjune that led to then what happened on the sixth, or perhaps there were two separate incidents. we don't have underwater images, and nor does anyone, to say what happened beneath the water here, but we know therefore that two things may have happened, or one thing may have led to another. 0n the other hand, you have the russians saying that ukraine had a direct missile attack on the dam. we know that in the last few months there have been some strikes on the dam. it was hit in august and november last year but significantly none of that caused any huge damage like we have seen here. we know the dam was controlled by russia. we know it was on the front lines. other experts we have been speaking to also say that wear and tear will have played a factor.
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it wasn't a well maintained dam by the russians. it had a lot of pressure on it. the water was higher than it should have been, it was at the highest levels for a number of years, so there are a lot of factors at play, but for now we continue to investigate. let's turn to the unfolding humanitarian crisis on the ground. damian rance is a spokesperson for unicef and gave us an update from the people he has working on the ground. unfortunately this is yet another attack on infrastructure that's vital to the well—being of children in ukraine. the damage caused by the flooding, the damage to the dam, it only causes further displacement to children who have already been through so much, but it also impacts their access to safe water and electricity. some 16,000 people in ukrainian
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government controlled areas have been relocated by the authorities due to partial orfull flood risks. we have seen houses fully destroyed by flooding. some houses, their rooftops have been washed away. safe water has been impacted in many areas. electricity supplies have been cut off. it's having an impact on all people living along the river, it's about 50 kilometres down to kherson, as your correspondent said earlier we are seeing the river level there rise significantly over the last day or so and many people are still trapped in houses that need to be rescued. are you helping with those evacuations? we are providing assistance at places where people are being evacuated to. we have teams set up,
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multi—disciplinarian mobile teams set up, at transit locations where people are being evacuated and taking them to other locations like 0desa and kyiv. 25,000 bottles of water have been distributed so far. sanitation supplies, water purification tablets for those remaining in place. medical professionals and psychologists will speak to people as they move through transit sites, bus and train stations. we have also provided more than 3500 parents and children with ready—to—use cash. as people are on the move, as your correspondent said, some people have fled with nothing, they could grab their documents and that's all they have taken with them, so they require assistance as they go to their next destination. u nfortu nately unfortunately this is not the first time we have seen displacement in ukraine. as always, with any major crisis like this, it is the old, vulnerable and children that are impacted the most. that's absolutely the case.
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we are seeing significant numbers of children being taken by their mothers through these train stations and bus stations. a lot of people being left behind, in fact, people who require rescue and evacuation from these emergency teams, are elderly, unable to otherwise move, so we are trying to make sure that where assistance is required we are getting assistance to people as fast as possible and we have teams on the ground providing that care. a final thought, as we look at pictures from kherson, just a huge rise in water level, is it expected at all for that water to disperse, or given the sheer volume of what has been released, is that it now for many of these communities, that they will remain submerged? that's an excellent question. i think for the time being we are working on the assumption that people will not be returning anytime soon to those locations. we are making sure that assistance is in place to enable them,
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when they are displaced, they can go to the next destination, until they feel safe to return. time will tell. of course, there are many displaced people across ukraine and people are not going to return home eventually until the war comes to a conclusion. and whether that's the case in kherson or not, and as you know there is already significant fighting and shelling taking place in kherson so it's up to the people who are displaced when they decide they can return. damian rance from unicef. security officers at heathrow airport will take part in a fresh wave of strikes this summer that could affect travellers at the uk's busiest airport. around 2,000 officers, who are members of the unite union, will walk out on 31 days betweenjune 24th and august 27th in their long
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running dispute over pay. a man accused of murdering a metropolitan police officer by shooting him at a custody centre "pulled the trigger on purpose", his trial has heard. louis de zoysa denies killing sgt matt ratana, by shooting him at the custody centre in croydon, south london, on 25th september, 2020. people in england could be offered weight loss jabs by gps to reduce obesity—related illnesses, as part of a two—year pilot scheme being launched by the government. it aims to reduce the pressure on nhs waiting lists. but experts warn "skinny jabs"are not a quick fix or a substitute for a healthy diet and exercise. you are live with bbc news. we can head to central london. prince harry has told the high court in london that phone hacking
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was carried out on an industrial scale across the british press, who then set about destroying the evidence. harry was giving evidence for a second day in the phone hacking case against the publisher of the daily mirror. the duke said he would feel a sense of injustice and disappointment if the court decided he hadn't been a victim. mirror group newspapers denies the allegations, saying the stories about him came from legitimate sources. prince harry has now finished giving evidence. i can take you to live pictures, this is the scene above central london as the helicopter moves around above the high court and so much focus on that building for the last two days because the duke of sussex giving evidence in that legal case, dominating yesterday, sprawling into today and the early parts of the morning and afternoon. he has concluded but he has stayed in court to listen to some of the witness cross—examination that is
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continuing. we expect the prince to leave in the next little while so we can go back to nancy kacungira who is outside the high court in london. take us through the key planks of what we have heard today's. todd? what we have heard today's. today has been a — what we have heard today's. today has been a continuation _ what we have heard today's. today has been a continuation of - what we have heard today's. today has been a continuation of the - has been a continuation of the questioning that began yesterday by andrew green, the lawyer representing the publishers. they were going through each of these 33 cases, identified by prince harry, these articles. in each case, the lawyer for the publisher was trying to put across that the sources for the stories were or could have been legitimate sources, palace sources, they could have been friends of prince harry. but prince harry on the other side trying to show that some of the details were so specific that they could only have come from
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unlawful means of gathering information such as phone tapping. that's where it has been. right now prince harry is no longer in the witness box will stop as you mentioned. he is listening to the rest of the testimony happening inside. we can talk a little bit about what is happening now with our correspondent helena wilkinson. now we have jane kerr on the witness stand, a former employee at the daily mirror, a royal correspondent, deputy editor. david sherborne, prince harry's lawyer, is drawing a line, continuing where he left off. he was talking with prince harry about phone hacking and now he is asking very pointed questions about jane kerr and her involvement and how much she knew about that. absolutely, she is in the witness box at _ absolutely, she is in the witness box at the — absolutely, she is in the witness box at the moment. she is a former royal— box at the moment. she is a former royal editor — box at the moment. she is a former royal editor at the daily mirror, which _ royal editor at the daily mirror, which is — royal editor at the daily mirror, which is part of the mirror newspaper group and this is the
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publisher— newspaper group and this is the publisher which prince harry is suing — publisher which prince harry is suing and _ publisher which prince harry is suing and seeking damages from. jane kerr is— suing and seeking damages from. jane kerr is in— suing and seeking damages from. jane kerr is in the _ suing and seeking damages from. jane kerr is in the witness box and is being _ kerr is in the witness box and is being questioned by prince harry's barristeh — being questioned by prince harry's barrister. to give you some headlines, we are hearing from colleagues in court, she cannot remember, she says, some of the sources— remember, she says, some of the sources that — remember, she says, some of the sources that provided the information for some of the stories that were _ information for some of the stories that were written about prince harry~ — that were written about prince harry. some of the article she wrote are at— harry. some of the article she wrote are at the _ harry. some of the article she wrote are at the centre of prince harry's case _ are at the centre of prince harry's case he — are at the centre of prince harry's case. he says the details and articles. _ case. he says the details and articles, as we have been reporting, were _ articles, as we have been reporting, were going — articles, as we have been reporting, were going from unlawful methods of newsgathering. jane kerr has said that for— newsgathering. jane kerr has said that for some of the stories she can't _ that for some of the stories she can't remember the sources, who got her that— can't remember the sources, who got her that information. she has also in the _ her that information. she has also in the tast— her that information. she has also in the last 20 minutes denied obtaining phone bills. to read you a little bit _ obtaining phone bills. to read you a little bit of— obtaining phone bills. to read you a little bit of the exchange between her round — little bit of the exchange between her round prince harry's barrister. she has— her round prince harry's barrister. she has been asked about whether it is lawful— she has been asked about whether it is lawful to _ she has been asked about whether it is lawful to get hold of someone's
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private _ is lawful to get hold of someone's private telephone bill. to that jane kerr reply, — private telephone bill. to that jane kerr reply, i'm sorry, i don't know if it is— kerr reply, i'm sorry, i don't know if it is unlawful or not. she denies obtaining — if it is unlawful or not. she denies obtaining phone bills. absolutely not, obtaining phone bills. absolutely not. she — obtaining phone bills. absolutely not, she says. i have never obtained a phone _ not, she says. i have never obtained a phone biti— not, she says. i have never obtained a phone bill nor seen one. prince harry— a phone bill nor seen one. prince harry irr— a phone bill nor seen one. prince harry in court listening to her evidence _ harry in court listening to her evidence-— harry in court listening to her evidence. ~ ., ,, evidence. helena wilkinson, thank ou. this evidence. helena wilkinson, thank yom this is — evidence. helena wilkinson, thank you. this is always _ evidence. helena wilkinson, thank you. this is always what _ evidence. helena wilkinson, thank you. this is always what it - evidence. helena wilkinson, thank you. this is always what it would i you. this is always what it would come to, prince harry eyeball to eyeball with the people he is making allegations against. 0ne eyeball with the people he is making allegations against. one of the things that has been striking is that while his to witness testimony yesterday was deeply personal in the witness box, he has been very reserved and calm, holding questions at arms length. that's how we can really wrap up he can testimony. that's his time in the witness box done but of course the trial continues and he is still in the courtroom listening in. we continues and he is still in the courtroom listening in. we will turn back to you — courtroom listening in. we willturn back to you if— courtroom listening in. we will turn back to you if we _ courtroom listening in. we will turn back to you if we see _ courtroom listening in. we will turn back to you if we see a _ courtroom listening in. we will turn back to you if we see a glimpse - courtroom listening in. we will turn back to you if we see a glimpse of. back to you if we see a glimpse of the prince in the list that it might
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next little while. many photographers waiting to see the prince if he returns. we can speak to gerald shamash, a legal commentator, who has represented people in similar phone hacking claims. you have been listening closely yesterday and today. what are your headline thoughts from what you have heard of the prince and his cross examination? i you have heard of the prince and his cross examination?— cross examination? i think it is very brave _ cross examination? i think it is very brave of _ cross examination? i think it is very brave of him _ cross examination? i think it is very brave of him to _ cross examination? i think it is very brave of him to take - cross examination? i think it is very brave of him to take to i cross examination? i think it is| very brave of him to take to the witness box and give his side of the story. one was never going to be sure how it would work out. he has been very honest and open. he has admitted when he didn't know things, which has been very clear. i think he can cut a very positive impression with the judge and the court. the difference in this case is you only have to prove it on the balance of probabilities, it's not
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like the criminal test. he has to get over the horizon of 51% to prove his case, and from what i have seen and heard so far i would be pretty optimistic on his behalf. i ratiiiii optimistic on his behalf. i will come back — optimistic on his behalf. i will come back to _ optimistic on his behalf. i will come back to the _ optimistic on his behalf. i will come back to the burden - optimistic on his behalf. i will come back to the burden of. optimistic on his behalf. i will come back to the burden of proof shortly, but it was hisjob come back to the burden of proof shortly, but it was his job to prove, not that there was scrutiny or articles, prove, not that there was scrutiny orarticles, but prove, not that there was scrutiny or articles, but that there was phone hacking involved to get that information. in terms of what you make specifically of that, what do you make of it? mirror group newspaper and that's where they have relentlessly focused, demanding proof from him on exactly that point. have you heard anything that comes close to that? i point. have you heard anything that comes close to that?— comes close to that? i think from their perspective _ comes close to that? i think from their perspective no. _ comes close to that? i think from their perspective no. one - comes close to that? i think from their perspective no. one has- comes close to that? i think from their perspective no. one has to l their perspective no. one has to just look back a few years ago, in 2015 there was the leading case of gulati defended by the mirror group. a couple of my well—known clients
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were beneficiaries of thatjudgment. we are in a situation now where the mirror is defending their position. it's clear when you look at the private investigator invoices, these people were paid money hundreds of thousands of pounds have been spent on this. ., ., ., ., , , on this. there are no “ournalists bein: on this. there are no “ournalists being questioned, _ on this. there are no journalists being questioned, but - on this. there are no journalists being questioned, but very - on this. there are no journalistsj being questioned, but very few, on this. there are no journalists - being questioned, but very few, and that was one of the questions prince harry post yesterday. in terms of those payments and expenses, how significant is that, because in a sense in the written section of the evidence, that's where the judge will determine. you evidence, that's where the 'udge will determinefi evidence, that's where the 'udge willdetermine. ., ., ., ., will determine. you have a situation where ou will determine. you have a situation where you pay _ will determine. you have a situation where you pay a _ will determine. you have a situation where you pay a private _ where you pay a private investigator, he goes off to do his bit, and the next thing you find, you see a link and then you see an article that appears and you can draw the link if you are careful
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because not only that you will have call data in certain circumstances where you can track telephone numbers from the hub, which is the mirror group hub, their landlines and mobile numbers ofjournalists, that will track into prince harry's phone, and that will be there and is available. we phone, and that will be there and is available. ~ ., , ., ., available. we said at the start of the interview, _ available. we said at the start of the interview, this _ available. we said at the start of the interview, this is _ available. we said at the start of the interview, this is in - available. we said at the start of the interview, this is in front - available. we said at the start of the interview, this is in front of. available. we said at the start of| the interview, this is in front of a judge, it's the balance of probabilities now. the prince is only one of four people in this. does thejudge view only one of four people in this. does the judge view things in the round or do they work on separate petitioners, prince harry, look at those cases, yes or no, and then the next and then the next. 0r those cases, yes or no, and then the next and then the next. or does he take it as a group? he next and then the next. or does he take it as a group?— take it as a group? he takes it in a row to start _ take it as a group? he takes it in a row to start with. _ take it as a group? he takes it in a row to start with. looking - take it as a group? he takes it in a row to start with. looking at - take it as a group? he takes it in a row to start with. looking at the l row to start with. looking at the general approach the mirror have adopted on their tactics and then applies it individually to see what happened. it's perfectly possible
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that prince harry was sacked but one of the others wasn't, but in reality probably your four were, but we will have to wait and see and that's the decision of the job in a couple of months�* time. decision of the 'ob in a couple of months' time._ decision of the 'ob in a couple of months' time. stay with us as we continue to _ months' time. stay with us as we continue to watch _ months' time. stay with us as we continue to watch the _ months' time. stay with us as we continue to watch the scene - months' time. stay with us as we continue to watch the scene from months' time. stay with us as we - continue to watch the scene from the high court and we will have much more on this. the pictures coming to us live from the high court, from the helicopter above it. you can see on the left—hand side all the journalists. this has had so much publicity in the last 48 hours and all those camera crews and reporters, there are about 20 spots inside the court for reporters, 20 spots for members of the public, and of course those have been jam—packed for the last two days. we continue to watch those pictures and we will have more analysis as soon as the prince emerges from the high court at the conclusion of day two. turning to another important story that has been developing in the last couple of hours.
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a cyber crime gang thought to be based in russia has claimed it�*s behind the hacking of payroll data affecting companies including the bbc, boots and british airways. the group called clop has posted a statement on their darknet site, threatening to publish the stolen information if the companies don�*t email them by the 14th ofjune. well, joining me now is cyber security expert lisa forte. welcome. these are called supply chain attacks. can you start by describing and telling our viewers who may not be familiar with that what that actually means and how common they are. it�*s what that actually means and how common they are.— what that actually means and how common they are. it's an increasing tactic we are _ common they are. it's an increasing tactic we are seeing _ common they are. it's an increasing tactic we are seeing from _ common they are. it's an increasing tactic we are seeing from attackers. the strategy essentially applied by them is to attack a single point of a supplier who may have lots of big corporate clients. that will facilitate the attacker is trying to get into those clients and companies as well, instead of doing lots of separate attacks. it gives them a great return on investment to use
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business language. find great return on investment to use business language.— business language. and a huge, colossal amount _ business language. and a huge, colossal amount of _ business language. and a huge, colossal amount of data - business language. and a huge, colossal amount of data we - business language. and a huge, colossal amount of data we are | colossal amount of data we are talking about. in terms of the companies themselves, some pretty tough choices. companies themselves, some pretty tough choices-— tough choices. yeah, very tough choices, especially _ tough choices. yeah, very tough choices, especially around - tough choices. yeah, very tough i choices, especially around whether or not they pay a ransom to the attackers or not. i have seen the bbc offer credit monitoring services and stuff like that. it�*s how it goes about supporting the people who have been affected by this. in goes about supporting the people who have been affected by this.— have been affected by this. in terms of companies. _ have been affected by this. in terms of companies, how _ have been affected by this. in terms of companies, how should _ have been affected by this. in terms of companies, how should they - have been affected by this. in terms of companies, how should they and | of companies, how should they and how could they absolutely protect themselves from stuff like this? i think they need to look at their supply chain more closely and look at the security the companies are employing. i think all the companies across the board need a robust plan developed for how they will handle an attack if it happens again or for the first time. in an attack if it happens again or for the first time.— the first time. in terms of large companies. _ the first time. in terms of large companies, one _ the first time. in terms of large companies, one would - the first time. in terms of large companies, one would assume| the first time. in terms of large - companies, one would assume they
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have those plans in place. what has to be enhanced?— to be enhanced? they 'ust need to develop those h to be enhanced? they 'ust need to develop those plans _ to be enhanced? they 'ust need to develop those plans a _ to be enhanced? theyjust need to develop those plans a little - to be enhanced? theyjust need to develop those plans a little further and think through some of the communication statements, how they will handle certain things and what they can offer to staff. this means if it happens to you as a company for the first time, or if you have already been a victim, it means the response is really quick and efficient, which would be better. thank you very much, an important story that we will continue to watch the developments of, those three companies affected and the ramifications. but certainly those hackers giving the deadline of the 14th ofjune. we watch for further developments on that story. we will take a short break and when we are back we will have the latest from ukraine, the latest from the high court and that case with prince harry. we will have all of the day�*s business news coming up on the programme in the next few minutes. don�*t go away.
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hello. the sunshine has been a little hit and miss over the last few days but it has been very dry indeed. that is about to change. temperatures are expected to rise, as is the humidity and also we are expecting one or two storms towards the end of the week. on that dry weather it really has been incredibly dry. in fact, the last time it rained across parts of england was the 11th of may. the reason for it is this persistent area of high pressure, sinking air blocking the atmosphere, stopping weather fronts from coming in. look at the wind arrows coming off the north sea. that has allowed that low grain north sea cloud to spread across parts of the country. it doesn�*t always burn off. that�*s why we have most of the sunshine across western parts of wales. in northern ireland and wales we have really enjoyed some glorious sunshine but we do need the rainfall. 0ur gardens are desperate for it. here is the forecast for wednesday, lots of sunshine around.
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the high temperatures will be where the sunnier skies are, out towards the west. 0n the north sea coast, hull, only around 15 celsius. the further east you are the cloudier it will be. something many of us are noticing, the pollen levels are very high across parts of england and wales. tonight that north sea wind once again pushes in the cloud inland, quite far west, meaning it will be a cloudy morning for many of us. not particularly cold, around 7 or 8 degrees and then that strong june sunshine will work its magic, burning the cloud away towards the east. notice how the cloud melts away by the time we get to midday and it is probablyjust the coast itself that will be shrouded with cloud. lower temperatures here, 15 degrees, whereas pushing the mid 20s in cardiff. that�*s thursday�*s weather forecast. let�*s look at friday. we are starting to see the first signs of both showers building and the humidity increasing
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across the south—west. again, really warm in the south—west with temperatures typically in the low to mid 20s. still on the fresh side closer to the north sea coast all the way from hull to aberdeen. temperatures will continue to creep up and by the weekend we could be talking about high 20s in some spots and also the risk of showers and thunderstorms, which we do need. goodbye.
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