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this is bbc news. ukrainian authorities say nearly 30 towns and villages have been flooded following the destruction of a major dam. the british prime minister says the instance fits with the pattern of russian aggression. i the instance fits with the pattern of russian aggression.— of russian aggression. i think it would fit with _ of russian aggression. i think it would fit with a pattern - would fit with a pattern of behaviour throughout this war which is where russia has as an active strategy deliberately targeted civilian infrastructure. prince harry hasiust _ civilian infrastructure. prince harry hasjust left the - civilian infrastructure. prince - harry hasjust left the high court harry has just left the high court in london. he accused british newspapers of carrying out phone hacking on an industrial scale during his second day of giving evidence. and the personal data of more than 100,000 people are said to be in the hands of a cyber gang suspected to be russian. we will
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have the latest on that will come back to verify live. let's return straightaway to our story because both cad and moscow blame each other for the breach of that damn. meanwhile, people downstream of the dam are having to flee advancing floodwaters while those others have lost access to safe drinking water. let me just show you some of the latest pictures that we are getting from the region, because right throughout the day we have been seeing the rising waters. we have also seen in terms of the rescue efforts, multiple rescue efforts of people being plucked from rooftops. we heard that people are actually staying in trees overnight to try and escape all of that that you are seeing on the screen. let's speak to a climate and environmental policy expert from eco—action ukraine, the civil society organisation that has been studying environmental impacts of the war in the country. thank you so much for
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being here on the programme. in terms of your assessment of the impact of what we have seen, and the last 2a hours�*s impact of what we have seen, and the last 24 hem"— last 24 hours's good evening, and thank you for— last 24 hours's good evening, and thank you for the invitation - last 24 hours's good evening, and j thank you for the invitation to talk about this problem. so onjune six russian military forces detonated a power plant which was under their occupation and their scale of theirs active terrorism is huge and it's probably one of the what most significant impact on the ecosystems. apart from the ecological effects there are equally important applications for economy, energy, population, and of course ultimately for nuclear safety and ukraine. we also need to say that there it halted 18 km3 of water, and
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currently there is a huge problem with water supply in the region. so, if we are talking about the environmental consequences you will feel them also downstream in the flooded areas below the dam. what do you anticipate — flooded areas below the dam. what do you anticipate for agriculture? - you anticipate for agriculture? this is such an important region for agriculture, long—term, how do you see it because mac agriculture, long-term, how do you see it because ma— see it because mac so this region is definitely dependent _ see it because mac so this region is definitely dependent on the - definitely dependent on the irrigation system. it means that the problem with water supply, which also will be quite huge with agriculture sector. it means that there will be more problems in the region and probably with higher lake supply chains. about environmental consequences in the flooded areas, it's worth mentioning that in this area we have an enormously rich biodiversity and many protected
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areas, and our colleagues calculated that more than 48 protected areas are located in this area, and some of them have already been flooded. it means that the impact on bird nesting qualities and rare habitats and rare species in the areas could disappear because of the destruction of kakhovka power plant.— of kakhovka power plant. in terms of what the focus _ of kakhovka power plant. in terms of what the focus should now _ what the focus should now beyond, what the focus should now beyond, what do you think in terms of president zelenskyy? he's been talking about the villages, he's been talking about helping people. he's talking about those they haven't got to so far. where should the focus because mark ella mack of course, currently, like yesterday and today, the main focus is humanitarian problems in flooded areas, because many people are kicked out of their homes and they just have no place to live. so kicked out of their homes and they just have no place to live.- just have no place to live. so the humanitarian _ just have no place to live. so the humanitarian problems, - just have no place to live. so the humanitarian problems, but- just have no place to live. so the humanitarian problems, but of. just have no place to live. so the -
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humanitarian problems, but of course we start to talk about environmental consequences already. to see the full—scale impact, will be able only after a few days and few weeks where we will see their scale of the flooded areas, but already now we can see that the pollution in the area is very high and both from, because of the explosion of the hydroelectric power station itself, and also because of the secretary problems from the flooded areas, because every city has its sewage system, agricultural lands, and other areas which could create additional pollution of the water in this area. , ., ., this area. sophia, we will leave it there, this area. sophia, we will leave it there. but _ this area. sophia, we will leave it there, but thanks _ this area. sophia, we will leave it there, but thanks so _ this area. sophia, we will leave it there, but thanks so much - this area. sophia, we will leave it there, but thanks so much for - there, but thanks so much for joining us live here on the programme from cave. let's stay in kyiv and had to our diplomatic correspondent, paul adams, who is there for us. paul, we are just listening tojust the
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there for us. paul, we are just listening to just the assessment of the ecological impacts, the humanitarian consequences, and that of course, central focus for president zelenskyy two. yeah, very much so. forgive _ president zelenskyy two. yeah, very much so. forgive me _ president zelenskyy two. yeah, very much so. forgive me mathew, - president zelenskyy two. yeah, very much so. forgive me mathew, i- president zelenskyy two. yeah, very much so. forgive me mathew, ijust| much so. forgive me mathew, ijust caught— much so. forgive me mathew, ijust caught the _ much so. forgive me mathew, ijust caught the tail end of that conversation. it sounded very interesting. and i think what your customers— interesting. and i think what your customers highlighting, certain consequences which are going to go way beyond what we are seeing on the today _ way beyond what we are seeing on the today. clearly, there is still a very urgent set of humanitarian issues — very urgent set of humanitarian issues at — very urgent set of humanitarian issues at hand, particularly in where — issues at hand, particularly in where the _ issues at hand, particularly in where the waters were rising throughout the day and the water operation — throughout the day and the water operation was going on. but speaking to officials _ operation was going on. but speaking to officials at the ministry of agriculture and they are just beginning to get a sense of what this is— beginning to get a sense of what this is going to mean for their work. — this is going to mean for their work, because that vast reservoir, behind _ work, because that vast reservoir, behind the — work, because that vast reservoir, behind the kakhovka dam, that will behind the kakhovka dam, that will be 100 _ behind the kakhovka dam, that will be 100 mile or a km long reservoir, that is— be 100 mile or a km long reservoir, that is basically emptying, and it is going — that is basically emptying, and it is going to continue to empty for weeks _ is going to continue to empty for weeks to— is going to continue to empty for weeks to come, we are told. all that water— weeks to come, we are told. all that
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water heading down into the black sea had _ water heading down into the black sea had all sorts of ecological implications where the river meets the sea _ implications where the river meets the sea. also, leaving a hole irrigation _ the sea. also, leaving a hole irrigation system for a large part of southern ukraine high and dry. and so, _ of southern ukraine high and dry. and so, officials at the ministry of agriculture — and so, officials at the ministry of agriculture say that the damage wrought— agriculture say that the damage wrought by that could take years to repair _ wrought by that could take years to repair. fields that are going to be without— repair. fields that are going to be without irrigation for substantial amount— without irrigation for substantial amount of time until some kind of provision — amount of time until some kind of provision can be made. these fields are simply— provision can be made. these fields are simply going to dry out. there are simply going to dry out. there are fields in — are simply going to dry out. there are fields in that area of southern ukraine which did not get much in the way— ukraine which did not get much in the way of— ukraine which did not get much in the way of natural rainfall. they need _ the way of natural rainfall. they need irrigation. they will, in the words _ need irrigation. they will, in the words of— need irrigation. they will, in the words of an— need irrigation. they will, in the words of an official this morning, become — words of an official this morning, become deserts if a solution is not found _ become deserts if a solution is not found so — become deserts if a solution is not found. so that's the kind of stuff that the — found. so that's the kind of stuff that the officials they are grappling with. it gives you a real sense _ grappling with. it gives you a real sense of— grappling with. it gives you a real sense of how we are very much in the here and now— sense of how we are very much in the here and now today, but this is some of the implications that are going to he _ of the implications that are going to he felt— of the implications that are going to be felt for years to come. paul, a certain amount _ to be felt for years to come. paul, a certain amount of _
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to be felt for years to come. paul, a certain amount of frustration - to be felt for years to come. paul, a certain amount of frustration as| a certain amount of frustration as well from president zelenskyy. you perhaps haven't seen that but as we have been talking in the last several while, have been talking in the last severalwhile, president have been talking in the last several while, president zelenskyy was telling a german magazine that he was shocked of the failure of the un and the red cross to provide help after the description of the damps. so clearly, he thinks there should be more help from the outside world. yes. and he and his prime minister yesterday— yes. and he and his prime minister yesterday were also blaming what they regarded as a kind of european weakness _ they regarded as a kind of european weakness for allowing their sort of circumstances to arise in which russia — circumstances to arise in which russia felt, in his view, that it had _ russia felt, in his view, that it had a — russia felt, in his view, that it had a kind _ russia felt, in his view, that it had a kind of carte blanche to commit — had a kind of carte blanche to commit an act of eco—side, as the government— commit an act of eco—side, as the government here called it. the red cross, _ government here called it. the red cross, that's an interesting one. the government here had it in for the red _ the government here had it in for the red cross for many months now. there _ the red cross for many months now. there have _ the red cross for many months now. there have been several episodes where _ there have been several episodes where the — there have been several episodes where the red cross and ukrainian
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government have been at loggerheads. it's government have been at loggerheads. it's kind _ government have been at loggerheads. it's kind of— government have been at loggerheads. it's kind of a _ government have been at loggerheads. it's kind of a popular argument. there _ it's kind of a popular argument. there is— it's kind of a popular argument. there is a — it's kind of a popular argument. there is a bit of an antipathy to the red — there is a bit of an antipathy to the red cross generally among the population in the ukraine. i think it somewhat reflects a misunderstanding of the way the red cross operates and the constraints that it _ cross operates and the constraints that it operates under. but i think clearly, _ that it operates under. but i think clearly, there is a feeling, and it is a part— clearly, there is a feeling, and it is a part of— clearly, there is a feeling, and it is a part of a _ clearly, there is a feeling, and it is a part of a wider fielding at this war— is a part of a wider fielding at this war and all of the terrible things that have happened in the course _ things that have happened in the course of— things that have happened in the course of this war wouldn't have happened — course of this war wouldn't have happened if the international community, and in particular, europe, — community, and in particular, europe, had put their foot down about— europe, had put their foot down about russia's behaviour much, much earlier _ about russia's behaviour much, much earlier. . ~ . , , earlier. pauladams, live with us there and _ earlier. pauladams, live with us there and keep. _ earlier. pauladams, live with us there and keep. thanks - earlier. pauladams, live with us there and keep. thanks for - earlier. pauladams, live with us| there and keep. thanks for taking earlier. pauladams, live with us - there and keep. thanks for taking us through that. we will have more on ukraine and the situation they're in a moment or two. ukraine and the situation they're in a moment ortwo. i ukraine and the situation they're in a moment or two. i want to break away from notjust a moment or two. i want to break away from not just for a a moment or two. i want to break away from notjust for a moment of two to bring you an update on pope francis. we know he was having an operation in hospital at the vatican is just putting out a statement in the last few moments saying pope francis has undergone a three hour
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operation. it has passed off without complications. the surgery was completed, it took place without complications, and lasted three hours. so the briefest of statements from the vatican, that hernia operation, we know the pope will be hospitalised for the next couple of days for recovery but the critical line and that was that it took three hours but there were no complications and surgery has been completed. so that news just coming to us from the vatican. now, let's return to the situation in ukraine, because of course we will be looking at the environmental damage. but of course there is so much scrutiny on the dam itself, how it was breached. we just heard a few moments ago from rishi sunak that it fit the pattern in terms of aggression from russia. but let's look at more detail. what we know about that breach of the dam, we have our colleague there in the verified hub with more than
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this. ~ . . . . this. well, the team at bbc verified have been looking _ this. well, the team at bbc verified have been looking into _ this. well, the team at bbc verified have been looking into more - this. well, the team at bbc verified have been looking into more detail| have been looking into more detail of the circumstances around the breach of the dam. the first thing to show you is a surveillance camera footage that the team have got a hold of. i'lljust play spray on it here. now, this is after the dam was breached, as you can see quite clearly there. timestamp here, six ofjune, 246 in the morning. you can see it there, even after the breach there are some explosions and the difference. now what is quite key is that the team were looking at some telegram messages are around 215, 218, and people back then were reporting that they were hearing weird noises. then at around 240, more chart on the telegram channels, people are saying that they heard more explosions, the really loud sound of water. some people even speculating that the dam had been breached. so that was only around five minutes before this footage, 246 and 42 seconds. and you can see
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the plume of smoke there, and there is a boat in the foreground as well. so this gives us a bit more insight into what it looked like. now the question, of course, remains. what was the cause of this? and ukrainian officials blame russia. they say that russia blew up the dam on the other side, you've got ukraine saying that it was a missile attack. now we have been taking a look at some satellite imaging to get more of a picture of what might have happened. this is from the 28th of may, so it's quite a few days before the 6th ofjune, when that catastrophic breach happened. but you can see here, this is the dam in good, working order. it's a hydroelectric dam, and that is completely intact. if we move along, to the 4th ofjune, now this is crucial because the 4th ofjune is two days before that catastrophic breach. but if you look in that red circle there, there was already some sort of damage to the dam two days
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before that massive breach. fast—forwa rd to before that massive breach. fast—forward to the 6th ofjune, and you can see that huge damage there, of course on the ground. we are seeing the impact of that. the question is, was what happened on the 4th ofjune the trigger for what happened on the six, over their two separate incidents? no of course, satellite imagery doesn't go underwater so we are unable to see underwater so we are unable to see underwater what may have been the cause of this. but it does shed more light on what may have happened. lastly, the team here have been spending the day looking at infrared imaging. the top one here is from the fifth, so the day before. now the fifth, so the day before. now the black is where water is, in the rutgers land. you can see rivers here. just take a look at what it looks like today, if we move down here. huge wide swathes of black where the water now is engulfing
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some of the landmass. so, we are getting more of a picture, of course, but there are still many things we are unclear on, and we will keep looking.— things we are unclear on, and we will keep looking. thanks. as you would expect. — will keep looking. thanks. as you would expect, so _ will keep looking. thanks. as you would expect, so much _ will keep looking. thanks. as you would expect, so much more - will keep looking. thanks. as you would expect, so much more on i will keep looking. thanks. as you i would expect, so much more on the bbc website. there is a live page with the very latest detail, constant updates in terms of more analysis on the dam, but also the humanitarian impact with warnings from the un and the latest warnings from the un and the latest warnings from president zelenskyy. now to other news. more than 100,000 staff at the bbc, british airways and boot have been told their payroll data may have been taken. employers are being urged not to pay up if the hackers
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demand a ransom. 0ur cyber correspondent has more on what we know about hackers. we know they gain entry into an organisation system, and it system, and they steal data and then ransom it back to the companies, threatening to publish online. sometimes, they also install malicious software that encrypts and scrambles all the data so that the organisations can have access to the systems. in this case, they haven't done that, which is some relief to some of the organisations affected, but we also know that klopp has been around since around 2019, they've hit many organisations around the world, most of the targets of the us. we think they could be based in russia. of course in the cyber crime world you never really know where the hackers are but there are certain tell them signs that had been picked up over the years by researchers so for example they
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operate mostly in russian speaking forums. they have breaks during russian holidays, that sort of thing. interestingly, this post that was put up late last night, initially start that the companies affected have until the 12th of june. and for some reason, we don't know why it was changed to the 14th ofjune. ijust look this morning, it could be a coincidence of course, but there is a russian public holiday on the 12th ofjune. the advice is not to panic. the organisations really are the ones i have to deal with this. now, individuals are not at in this stage massively in danger of having their bank accounts emptied. there are many steps between now and someone's bank account being attacked, for example. but there are things you can do, which is look out for suspicious e—mails or phone calls. bad news for travellers using heathrow airport this summer. in a fresh wave of strikes this summer that could
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affect travellers at the uk's busiest airport. around 2,000 officers, who are members of the unite union, will walk out on 31 days betweenjune 24th and august 27th in their long running dispute over pay. my my understanding of that was that the security office, you have to remember that aren't security officers across the whole of heathrow airport that will be involved. if those at terminal three and five, and those we just mentioned in campus security. these won't be the first strikes that are taking place in this ongoing pay dispute. also, at the start of the easter holidays and over the may half term, but at that point the staff weren't in evolved from terminal three. staff weren't in evolved from terminalthree. now staff weren't in evolved from terminal three. now they are joining the action and it is in terms of more strike dates, more than 30 strike dates have been set between late june and strike dates have been set between latejune and the end of august. what is the impact going to be? if not totally clear at the moment, but those previous strikes i was just
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talking about didn't actually have a huge impact because heathrow airport put some contingency measures in place such as getting agency workers send. at the start of the british airways which is the only airline that uses terminal five, cancelled some flights and advance as a precaution so we are not clear at the moment whether they will do that again over the summer. heathrow was saying today they will do everything they can to minimise disruption but i think the impact you might see is perhaps taking a little bit longer to get through security if you are flying out of the uk on holidays, for example. and the extent of that will depend on how well heathrow is able to fill in those staffing gaps to provide contingency members. so at the moment it's not totally clear how big the impact will be but a very busy time of year over some of these big summer holiday getaway weekend. i think it's fair to say that we could be looking at some cues to get through security of
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heathrow. at the moment, unclear. no areas are said yet whether they will cancel any flights as a result. to north america now, where tens of millions of people have been warned about potentially dangerous air quality as intense wildfires burn across canada. a haze hangs over much of the north eastern us, with some cities, including new york, briefly reporting the worst air quality of any major city in the world. much of the smoke is coming from quebec, where 160 fires are burning. canadian officials say the country is bracing for its worst wildfire season on record. scientists in the us have identified the first ever case of a crocodile who made herself pregnant, producing a foetus with a 99 percent dna match to her own. the crocodile who laid the egg has been kept apart from other crocodiles is entire life. the phenomenon is described as a virgin birth. i asked a scientist how's rare
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birth. i asked a scientist how's we are still birth. i asked a scientist how's "id�*éi are still working birth. i asked a scientist how's "he are still working through the mechanisms that drive it but we understand to a point but it is a process called automatic terminal fusion, where the egg essentially fuses with a by—product of formation. that makes it feel that it became fertilised and releases development. the big issue with it, however, is that the offspring that is produced is not a clone of the mother. essentially it is a half clone because it contains a set of chromosomes from the egg. and they have views from another set which are pretty much identical to it. as are pretty much identical to it. as a result they are very highly inbred and often they don't do very well. i will come back to the egg and what you found in a moment or two, but i write out that line that this crocodile had been kept separate from other crocodiles. you are absolutely 100% certain about that fact, are you? absolutely 100% certain about that fact. are you?— absolutely 10096 certain about that fact. are you?— absolutely10096 certain about that fact. are you?— fact, are you? even ifi had been with other— fact, are you? even ifi had been with other males, _ fact, are you? even ifi had been with other males, we _ fact, are you? even ifi had been with other males, we can - fact, are you? even ifi had been with other males, we can tell. fact, are you? even ifi had been l with other males, we can tell from the dna that no mail was involved in
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the dna that no mail was involved in the production of the offspring. , we sequenced the genome of the crocodile, and we sequence the genome of the carcinogen, and we were not able to find any evidence of a male contribute to the offering. what we know about that animal as it was in isolation for 18 years. in animal as it was in isolation for 18 ears. , animal as it was in isolation for 18 ears. . .. animal as it was in isolation for 18 ears. , ., , . ,, years. in terms of this happening, we said that _ years. in terms of this happening, we said that it _ years. in terms of this happening, we said that it was _ years. in terms of this happening, we said that it was a _ years. in terms of this happening, we said that it was a first. - years. in terms of this happening, we said that it was a first. there l we said that it was a first. there is anything like this happen with any other species? it is anything like this happen with any other species?— any other species? it actually is re any other species? it actually is pretty widespread. _ any other species? it actually is pretty widespread. we - any other species? it actually is pretty widespread. we are - any other species? it actually is| pretty widespread. we are really any other species? it actually is . pretty widespread. we are really in the last ten years starting to realise how common it is among a certain group of organisms. for example and has been found in a variety of shark species. in my research working with collaborators we have documented across all groups of snakes, including both street constrictors and reticulated pythons and king cobra. it also happens in a
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variety of lizard species, and it happens in birds. the interesting thing about this as they all use the exact same mechanism this mechanism is quite a diverse set of mechanisms that can be used and they are all using the exact same mechanism so that suggest that trey is actually something very ancestral. incredible sto . it was a low budget, feel good comedy, about a group of former steel workers, who decided to make a little money, by stripping off. well, the full monty went on, to become a global hit, making more than $250 million. 26 years on, the stars are back for a tv series, about what happened after that revealing night, in 1997. david sillito has been to meet them. # you can leave your hat on. the full monty — a little low—budget film about six blokes who needed to make a bit of extra cash and were convinced this was a way of doing it. it became a massive hit.
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and now after more than 25 years, the gang are back together. i know you lot from somewhere. strippers! are you still doing it? what do you think? give me strength. but rather than pick up where the film ended in 1997, the tv series catches up with the characters today. here, all meeting up again in the big baps cafe. so when you walk into big baps and everyone's there together, what was the feel like? i was so delighted to be back working with steve and mark and paul and all the gang. the full monty, you know, it's followed me around through my entire career like a big, warm shadow, you know? and there's a bond between us guys through that, you know, only we understand what that was about. # looking for some hot stuff, baby, this evenin'. in the originalfilm, the story was about unemployment and what it did to people. this is thejob centre from 1997.
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and it's still there today, but as you can see, the city around it has been transformed. but the new series is all about the problems of britain in 2023. and this is probably the most important of all of the locations because this is, of course, where they did the full monty. however, as you can see, it's seen better days. and for peter price, who's represented this area for 50 years, the full monty captures something important. to be fair, it did present a worse light than what it was, but i think it needed to exaggerate it to get the story. i mean, a lot of people took offence, but i didn't because i saw the poverty that existed in certain quarters. 26 years have gone by since then. and now, how different? it's been a lot better, don't get me wrong, but it's going back that way, i'm afraid. and finally, the most important question. do you keep your
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clothes on this time? no—one wants to see that, do they? it's not a horror film. david sillito, bbc news, sheffield. a reminder that prince harry has left the high court after accusing the british press of carrying out phone tracking on an industrial scale. the prince has been giving evidence at the high court for a second day, pleading his case against mira group newspapers. prince harry found tracking device on his ex—girlfriend's car. it was suspicious that conversations between them has appeared in the daily mirror newspaper. coming up in the next little while we will have the next little while we will have the latest from ukraine, ukraine's prime minister urging the un and the red cross to act immediately for more help after that dam burst. we will have more unverified life same time tomorrow.
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hello. we are heading for a spell of warmer weather. on top of that, increasing humidity and also the possibility of one or two heavy showers, perhaps some thunderstorms as well. and we do need the rainfall because it has been so very dry over the last two or three weeks in some parts of the country and even in others, close to a month of no rainfall at all. central parts of england, church lawford last time it rained was the 11th of may, and southern parts of wales have not seen rain for about a month. and the reason for it is this persistent area of high pressure. it's sinking air through the atmosphere. that's why we call it high pressure. it's stuck here and it prevents weather fronts from coming off the atlantic. doesn't necessarily mean it's been all that sunny. in fact, we've often seen low gray clouds forming in the north sea and being pushed by that wind that blows around the area of high pressure. so cloudy mornings, but then brighter afternoons. so, through the course of the night,
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we'll see low cloud being pushed in once again by that breeze off the north sea. skies across western parts of the uk will be clearer. i think temperatures will be no lower than around seven degrees and more typically nine or ten in city centre. so on thursday morning, cloudy start for many of us, particularly across eastern parts of scotland and england. and then, that strong june sunshine works its magic. the cloud burns back to the eastern coast, but it does look as though that eastern strip will stay on the cloudy side and chilly in places, maybe no higher than 15 degrees in hull, newcastle and norwich, or 17 in norwich or so. the higher temperatures will be further west. pollen levels still remain very high across parts of england and wales. further north, little bit lower. the forecast then for friday, and we are going to see that change in the weather across south—western parts of the uk. increasing humidity, i think hazy skies and the risk of showers, maybe some thunderstorms too, but very isolated
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in the south—west on friday. in fact, they could arrive as early as thursday night. elsewhere, the weather will be more or less the same. what we've been used to in the last few days. now, the temperatures will steadily rise. we could see highs approaching the high 20s in some spots. so not too hot, i think. warm enough for most of us. that's it for me. bye— bye.
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