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when it comes to technology that will shape the future, like semiconductors, quantum computing, artificial intelligence, the uk and the us are working together to make sure they are developed safely and responsibly and jointly. fiur sure they are developed safely and responsibly and jointly.— responsibly and “ointly. our 'ob as leaders is to i responsibly and jointly. our 'ob as leaders is to ensure * responsibly and jointly. our 'ob as leaders is to ensure that _ responsibly and jointly. ourjob as leaders is to ensure that this - leaders is to ensure that this technological revolution makes us more _ technological revolution makes us more secure and not less. today, the president— more secure and not less. today, the president and i agreed to work together— president and i agreed to work together on a high safety, including multilaterally. welcome to the programme. rishi sunak and joe biden havejust been speaking. we'll look at why ai. — artifical intelligence was on the agenda. also in the programme... wildfires
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in canada. air pollution in the us. a new el nino weather event. we'll investigate what's going on with our climate. in ukraine — president zelensky has been to see the damage done after the attack on the dam. and in france — the latest first — lets go to the us uk prime minister is in washington. meeting us presidentjoe biden. those pictures are of something different. we will stick to the us, because in the last few minutes, that press conference has wrapped up a little early orion will stop this was their meeting in front of the cameras, and they had private meetings as well after that talking about economic ties, support for ukraine and artificial intelligence as we mentioned. that is what we will be talking about. first, let's hear from the us will be talking about. first, let's hearfrom the us president. so, mr prime minister,
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thank you for making the journey to washington. earlier this week, we marked the 79th anniversary of d—day, and a timely reminder of a proud history our nations share and the values that we have long stood together to defend. that's the unshakeable foundation of this special relationship — and it is a special relationship. there is no country closer to us than great britain. today, as nato allies, partners in innovation, as friends in a shared vision of the future, and the two nations, our two nations ready to meet the challenges of our time and meet them together. and we will listen to a little bit of what mr sunak had to say as well. today we have agreed the atlantic declaration, a new economic partnership for a new age of the kind that — partnership for a new age of the kind that has never been agreed before — kind that has never been agreed before. yes, of partnership that protects — before. yes, of partnership that protects our citizens, but more than that, _ protects our citizens, but more than that, a _ protects our citizens, but more than that, a test—
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protects our citizens, but more than that, a test case for the kind of reimagined alliances president biden has spoken so eloquently about. that means_ has spoken so eloquently about. that means new_ has spoken so eloquently about. that means new investments, this week alone, _ means new investments, this week alone, £14 — means new investments, this week alone, £14 billion of new american investment— alone, £14 billion of new american investment has been committed into the uk, _ investment has been committed into the uk, creating thousands ofjobs. it means_ the uk, creating thousands ofjobs. it means stronger supply chains with a new_ it means stronger supply chains with a new action plan unclean energy, and it— a new action plan unclean energy, and it means reducing trade barriers and it means reducing trade barriers and the _ and it means reducing trade barriers and the technologies of the future. with a _ and the technologies of the future. with a new— and the technologies of the future. with a new secure uk — us data bridge — with a new secure uk — us data bridge helping tens of thousands of small_ bridge helping tens of thousands of small businesses. live now to washington — and the bbc�*s gary o'donoghue. gary, this press conference has wrapped upjust in gary, this press conference has wrapped up just in the last few minutes. there was a lot to get through. what stuck out to you? i through. what stuck out to you? i think there was quite interestingly, you mentioned ai as being important, and there was quite a lot of warm words there from joe biden about the british capacity to lead the
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conversation on that. he spoke about this idea of an autumn summit in the uk. that seemed to me like a little bit of an endorsement. so the british will take away a lot of encouragement from that. i think they will also take away a lot of encouragement from the idea that the us administration is buying into this economic cooperation, even if they can't have a full free trade agreements that there are going to be some areas where the us believes that it be some areas where the us believes thatitis be some areas where the us believes that it is important to co—operates. rare earth minerals were mentioned. often sounds a bit down in the weeds, but these are like 17 parts, elements of the periodic table that are absolutely crucial in future technologies, and at the moment, china controls a lot of the minds, where those materials come from, and clearly people in the us, europe and the uk want to make sure that they can secure the supply lines and the supplies of those sorts of things
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for the future, for their future technology. so some movement from the british point of view. i think we arejust seeing the british point of view. i think we are just seeing rishi sunak�*s car just about to pass by a behind me here. here he is on his way back towards the northwest gate of the white house heading back to the airport and i think straight back to the uk after what he will feel is a reasonably successful visit. gary, erfect reasonably successful visit. gary, perfect timing- — reasonably successful visit. gary, perfect timing. you _ reasonably successful visit. gary, perfect timing. you are _ reasonably successful visit. gary, perfect timing. you are impeccable as always. thank you very much for that. i'm joined now by david leslie director of ethics and responsible innovation research at the alan turing institute and sana khareghani — former head of the uk office for al. thank you both for coming on the programme. thank you both for coming on the programme-— thank you both for coming on the rouramme. ., , ., ~ programme. good to be here. thank ou. let's programme. good to be here. thank yom let's start _
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programme. good to be here. thank you. let's start with _ programme. good to be here. thank you. let's start with this _ programme. good to be here. thank you. let's start with this idea - programme. good to be here. thank you. let's start with this idea that i you. let's start with this idea that artificial intelligence, _ you. let's start with this idea that artificial intelligence, suppose - you. let's start with this idea that artificial intelligence, suppose we j artificial intelligence, suppose we should start from the absolute basics. davidjust should start from the absolute basics. david just tell us, artificial intelligence, briefly, what is said and what are the potential risks?— what is said and what are the potential risks? what is said and what are the otential risks? ~ ., potential risks? well, i mean there are many different _ potential risks? well, i mean there are many different ways _ potential risks? well, i mean there are many different ways one - potential risks? well, i mean there are many different ways one can i are many different ways one can define artificial intelligence. co nve ntionally define artificial intelligence. conventionally we think of these two technologies are different methodologies and different mathematics that serves stand in cognitive functions for the world. so we can think of machine learning, for instance, that draws in large amounts of data and its training on that data to make inferences, predictions, classifications about the world. we have knowledge of many different risks that al provides. we note that because it's derived from real—world data, it will tend to replicate, reproduce or even augment the biases and the patterns of
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discrimination that exist in the world. if we think of more recently, the roll—out of foundation models, we know that these types of systems can be fire hoses for disinformation, misinformation and propaganda. disinformation, misinformation and --roa~anda. �* disinformation, misinformation and prepaganda-_ disinformation, misinformation and --roa~anda. �* ., ., , propaganda. david, i'm going to “ump in there, because i propaganda. david, i'm going to “ump in there, because we i propaganda. david, i'm going to “ump in there, because we are i propaganda. david, i'm going to “ump in there, because we are going h propaganda. david, i'm going tojump in there, because we are going to - in there, because we are going to come to those risks and just a moment in more detail. but i want to come to you because we've got to get idea from david about what artificial intelligence is and some of the potential risks, but why do you think that rishi sunak, uk prime minister, has made for such a focus of his trip to washington? this minister, has made for such a focus of his trip to washington?— of his trip to washington? this is incredibly important _ of his trip to washington? this is incredibly important right - of his trip to washington? this is incredibly important right now, l of his trip to washington? this is i incredibly important right now, and we have _ incredibly important right now, and we have heard from experts across the world _ we have heard from experts across the world calling on governments to start thinking about this. i think it's important to note that, you know. — it's important to note that, you know. this _ it's important to note that, you know, this isn't the beginning of
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this conversation for the uk, that al safety— this conversation for the uk, that al safety has been part and parcel ai safety has been part and parcel of the _ ai safety has been part and parcel of the conversation of policymaking in the _ of the conversation of policymaking in the uk _ of the conversation of policymaking in the uk from the outset. so looking — in the uk from the outset. so looking at— in the uk from the outset. so looking at the benefits of wrong site the — looking at the benefits of wrong site the risks have always been the way we _ site the risks have always been the way we have approached policymaking here, so _ way we have approached policymaking here, so the national ai strategy we released _ here, so the national ai strategy we released two years ago has ai safety withih_ released two years ago has ai safety within its— released two years ago has ai safety within its under pillar three, which is the _ within its under pillar three, which is the governance of ai. so it makes the uk _ is the governance of ai. so it makes the uk really suitable to convene a discussion— the uk really suitable to convene a discussion like this. frankly, for me, _ discussion like this. frankly, for me. all— discussion like this. frankly, for me. all of— discussion like this. frankly, for me, all of this type is fantastic because — me, all of this type is fantastic because it _ me, all of this type is fantastic because it means that some of this work— because it means that some of this work that— because it means that some of this work that needs to happen very, very quickly, _ work that needs to happen very, very quickly, and — work that needs to happen very, very quickly, and collaboration to be made _ quickly, and collaboration to be made across the world can happen much _ made across the world can happen much more — made across the world can happen much more quickly now that people care about — much more quickly now that people care about looking at al safety more than they— care about looking at al safety more than they have in the past. interesting. let's come back to you, because you are talking about things like misinformation. at the uk wants to position itself as some kind of central —— centre of excellence in
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the regulatory sphere as well, what kind of regulation is needed? weill. kind of regulation is needed? well, we definitely _ kind of regulation is needed? well, we definitely need _ kind of regulation is needed? well, we definitely need a _ kind of regulation is needed? well, we definitely need a series - kind of regulation is needed? -ii we definitely need a series of codified controls on the way that the systems are designed and developed and deployed. we note that algorithmic transparency and algorithmic transparency and algorithmic accountability are priorities and that these need to be put into statutory forms so that regulators can, in their own verticals, be able to in forest transparency and accountability requirements. we also know that there are various modes of assurance that you need to be developed in terms of documentation, proper documentation, certification of the systems. if anything, the uk has
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been out ahead of the curve on this. the centre for data ethics and innovation has a whole programme in assurance and privacy enhancing technologies that could support that. at the alan turing institute, we have developed the national public sector guidance on al ethics and safety in the national ai expandability guidance alongside the information commissioners office. all of that is to say that we have been part of this conversation for quite a few years and thinking about this. �* , , ., ., quite a few years and thinking about this. �*, , ., ., .,, this. let's build on what david has said there- — this. let's build on what david has said there. if _ this. let's build on what david has said there. if the _ this. let's build on what david has said there. if the uk _ this. let's build on what david has said there. if the uk is _ this. let's build on what david has said there. if the uk is ahead - this. let's build on what david has said there. if the uk is ahead of. said there. if the uk is ahead of the game in this and therefore has some claim to act as some kind of hub in the years ahead, overall effectiveness, if you have other countries that aren't prepared to sign up to the same kind of regulations or principles or any voluntary code, china but not necessarily china, but that is cited by some, for example, all of those
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dangerous aspects of ai could be harnessed by some and then not by others. ~ , ,., , harnessed by some and then not by others. ~ , , ., harnessed by some and then not by others. , , ., . . harnessed by some and then not by others. ,~ . . , others. absolutely fair. which is wh we others. absolutely fair. which is why we cannot _ others. absolutely fair. which is why we cannot think _ others. absolutely fair. which is why we cannot think about - others. absolutely fair. which is why we cannot think about al i others. absolutely fair. which is- why we cannot think about al safety and the _ why we cannot think about al safety and the things that were mentioned, the work— and the things that were mentioned, the work that has been mentioned as a domestic— the work that has been mentioned as a domestic issue. these are international issues. these are international. and it requires international. and it requires international collaboration. now that is— international collaboration. now that is not easy, but that is at the heart _ that is not easy, but that is at the heart of— that is not easy, but that is at the heart of my— that is not easy, but that is at the heart of my understanding of why this summit is being called in the item _ this summit is being called in the item is _ this summit is being called in the item is to— this summit is being called in the item is to bring those leaders who understand that work needs to be done _ understand that work needs to be done together. the understand that work needs to be done together.— understand that work needs to be done together. the speed, sorry to “um in done together. the speed, sorry to jump in here. _ done together. the speed, sorry to jump in here. but _ done together. the speed, sorry to jump in here, but it— done together. the speed, sorry to jump in here, but it is— done together. the speed, sorry to jump in here, but it is the - done together. the speed, sorry to jump in here, but it is the speed, l jump in here, but it is the speed, the technology is moving so fast. and worldwide regulation is notoriously pretty slow. i and worldwide regulation is notoriously pretty slow. i think worldwide _ notoriously pretty slow. i think worldwide regulation _ notoriously pretty slow. i think worldwide regulation is - notoriously pretty slow. i think worldwide regulation is going i notoriously pretty slow. i thinkl worldwide regulation is going to take a _ worldwide regulation is going to take a long time. you're absolutely right _ take a long time. you're absolutely right. anything collaborating on the actions _ right. anything collaborating on the actions that we can individually
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take _ actions that we can individually take alongside this same level of guidance — take alongside this same level of guidance and principles and standards might be a good start. just actionable things that we can do as— just actionable things that we can do as countries and agreed to do them _ do as countries and agreed to do them i_ do as countries and agreed to do them i think it's really important. just one — them i think it's really important. just one other very quick point for me, just one other very quick point for me. the _ just one other very quick point for me, the people at that table cannot 'ust me, the people at that table cannot just be the — me, the people at that table cannot just be the regulators and governments and business people. we need to— governments and business people. we need to have civil society and people — need to have civil society and people who are going to be affected by these _ people who are going to be affected by these regulations there as well so that— by these regulations there as well so that we can have that diversity of thinking — so that we can have that diversity of thinking and thought in that. interesting. david, want to come back to you because this idea that civil society, governments, back to you because this idea that civilsociety, governments, it is actually, of course, the companies involved that in many cases, have they learned from other big tech that, actually, the faster regulation comes in the better, even though that may sound counterintuitive. i though that may sound counterintuitive. ~ counterintuitive. i think the need for regulation — counterintuitive. i think the need for regulation has _ counterintuitive. i think the need for regulation has been - counterintuitive. i think the need for regulation has been called i counterintuitive. i think the need| for regulation has been called for counterintuitive. i think the need l for regulation has been called for a
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cross industry. i think we also need to be careful that there isn't degrees of regulatory capture here, and this is, as an said, the real priority of involving the public and involving a wide range of stakeholders in determining what actually needs to happen to put those controls in place within the ecosystem of ai innovation, and the only way people get their is if we have a kind of multilateral international global conversation where you have many different parts of society contributing to setting the direction of travel for future regulation. fik the direction of travel for future regulation-— the direction of travel for future reuulation. ., ., ., , ., regulation. 0k great to have your thou~hts. regulation. 0k great to have your thoughts i _ know we could talk about this hugely complex issue forever, but i'm afraid we must leave it there. next, we had to canada, those wildfires. he may have seen the pictures around
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quebec. let's take a look at them. they are pretty extraordinary. 400 fires with 236 out of control impact is huge. this is 500 miles away. new york's times square air quality. the air quality is really poor there at the moment. the city is trying to get out a million masks. masks that we all got use to during the cove at times. now, take a look at this time lapse which sews the extent of the smog in new york yesterday. pretty remarkable, isn't it? millions of people are being advised to stay inside, or if they do have to go out, then they should be wearing one of those masks. let's hear from some new yorkers the apocalypse. that's what it feels like. it's very scary and dangerous. i haven't had a mask on since coronavirus. no, haven't seen anything like this at all. it's bonkers. i was completely shocked by the haze and this horrible, horrible smell. i it feels like a video game,
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it doesn't feel real. itjust smells weird. it's just crazy. like, my lungs feel weird right now. look again at the haze. new york across the water. just as i mentioned, some of the disruption, airports were disrupted, flights delayed given with issues of visibility to mexican tile. events being cancelled as well around the region, notjust new york, baseball games, pride events in washington, dc. here's new york mayor talking about the pollution. from the gloom over yankee stadium to the smoky haze obscuring our skyline, we can see it, we can smell it and we felt it. and it was alarming and concerning. last night at 10pm committee air quality index hit 218. ——last night at 10pm, the air quality index hit 218. a very unhealthy level.
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the levels of health concern... it really sent shock waves throughout the entire city. chris migliaccio — research associate professor in toxicology, university of montana. and dr mohammad reza alizadeh who is environmental researcher at mit. thank you both very much for coming on the programme.— thank you both very much for coming on the programme. thanks for having us. we will start _ on the programme. thanks for having us. we will start with _ on the programme. thanks for having us. we will start with the _ on the programme. thanks for having us. we will start with the air - us. we will start with the air pollution — us. we will start with the air pollution side _ us. we will start with the air pollution side of _ us. we will start with the air pollution side of it. - us. we will start with the air pollution side of it. we i us. we will start with the air pollution side of it. we will. us. we will start with the air i pollution side of it. we will start with the health impact. toxicology, a professor is certainly the person to speak to on this. we see those pictures there of that he is, that orange colour in the air. but what is actually going on when you breathe it in?— is actually going on when you breathe it in? there is a lot of different things _ breathe it in? there is a lot of different things that _ breathe it in? there is a lot of different things that are i breathe it in? there is a lot of different things that are going breathe it in? there is a lot of- different things that are going on. there is the immediate effects right there in the lungs, it's affecting lung function, especially people who are at risk can accept exacerbate asthma copd. it affects the
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respiratory immune system such that we know long—term or at least in the relatively immediately term, you can be more susceptible to respiratory infections, and then there is the strong potential of systemic effects will stop people with cardiovascular disease risk can have an exacerbation from these types of exposures. exacerbation from these types of exposures-_ exacerbation from these types of ex'osui'es. ., ,. ., ., , ., exposures. fascinating. have you chosen that— exposures. fascinating. have you chosen that backed _ exposures. fascinating. have you chosen that backed up _ exposures. fascinating. have you chosen that backed up behind i exposures. fascinating. have you| chosen that backed up behind you exposures. fascinating. have you i chosen that backed up behind you of deliberately mounting cool fresh air to reinforce that point? now, those people in new york, it is a serious issue, but if it is just there for a couple of days, does that mean, actually, they can kind of carry on and move the ground again because michael kind of duration do you need for impact to be serious? that michael kind of duration do you need for impact to be serious?— for impact to be serious? that is a ve aood for impact to be serious? that is a very good question. _ for impact to be serious? that is a very good question. these - for impact to be serious? that is a very good question. these are i for impact to be serious? that is a l very good question. these are areas of ongoing research. it depends, as i have told other people that have asked this question, as a toxicologist, we say ghosts make the poison, so it could be a short—lived
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exposure, but at the levels they are seeing right now, they are pretty significant as opposed to a more chronic high level air pollution that pm levels are not as high could have a similar effect. i know the levels they are seeing right now are some we saw a handful of years ago in a massive fire here. now the people were exposed over a month, and we saw a significant effect on lung function when in two years later, not to say that this will happen here, but those are the potentials depending on how long they are exposed and how badly they are exposed. they are exposed and how badly they are “posed-— are exposed. interesting. these wildfires, the _ are exposed. interesting. these wildfires, the source _ are exposed. interesting. these wildfires, the source of- are exposed. interesting. these wildfires, the source of this, i are exposed. interesting. these wildfires, the source of this, is. wildfires, the source of this, is this something that in this part of the world we just got to get used to the fact that they are going to happen more often?— the fact that they are going to happen more often? well, yeah, so actuall , happen more often? well, yeah, so actually. what _ happen more often? well, yeah, so actually, what we _ happen more often? well, yeah, so actually, what we are _ happen more often? well, yeah, so actually, what we are seeing - happen more often? well, yeah, so actually, what we are seeing is i happen more often? well, yeah, so actually, what we are seeing is the l actually, what we are seeing is the first of— actually, what we are seeing is the first of wildfires seasons from coast—to—coast, east to west now,
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and these _ coast—to—coast, east to west now, and these fires across the country is really— and these fires across the country is really unusual with this happening from coast—to—coast. it's important _ happening from coast—to—coast. it's important to — happening from coast—to—coast. it's important to be prepared for fire seasons, — important to be prepared for fire seasons, definitely we are going to see more _ seasons, definitely we are going to see more of these kinds of fires more _ see more of these kinds of fires more intensified and like even in the country, other places that was before _ the country, other places that was before considered to wet to burn is now under— before considered to wet to burn is now under fire before considered to wet to burn is now underfire and before considered to wet to burn is now under fire and all the provinces and territories. this is, i mean, clear— and territories. this is, i mean, clear changes happening there. we have to clear changes happening there. - have to leave it there, but absolutely great to get your thoughts. thank you both are coming in the programme. thank you. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. taking a look at some news here in the uk, former green party leader is to stand down as an mp at the next
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general election after ten years in thisjob. she said general election after ten years in this job. she said the general election after ten years in thisjob. she said the pressure general election after ten years in this job. she said the pressure of constituency work and being the party's on the end he had left her unable to focus as much as she wanted on what she called the existential challenges of the nature and climate emergencies. a 14—year—old boy who died has been named locally. emergency services were called to the school on tuesday afternoon. the teenager was taken to hospital but died shortly afterwards, another 14—year—old boy was involved in the incident, which the school has described as isolated. there's been a shift in how we do our grocery shopping since the covered pandemic and the cost of retail data compiled from the analyst told the bbc shoppers now visit the supermarket less often, spend more on only label goods and are turning to loyalties schemes.
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you're live with bbc news. ukraine. the latest followed on the attack of the dam. president zelensky has been in kherson here his is visiting the scene. he thanked the rescuers. getting an assessment of everything that they have been doing. but also said aid agencies had been too slow to respond. so there was some and he then went on to a hospital. he went to see people who were getting treatment. whilst those people are being treated, outside, the rescue efforts are still going on. this is remarkablyjust a couple of hours after the visit from zelinski. area came under intense russian fire, making it even harder for rescue workers.
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our correspondent james wayterhouse has spent the day on the dnipro river. it's hard to picture an estimated four cubic miles of water until you are in it. victor hasn't stopped for two days, searching for people trapped. two days, searching for people tra ed. ~ , two days, searching for people tra--ed. ~ , ., �* two days, searching for people tra--ed.~ , .,�* two days, searching for people tra--ed.~ , j ., two days, searching for people tra--ed.~ , .,�* ., ., trapped. why don't you want to leave? so _ trapped. why don't you want to leave? so they _ trapped. why don't you want to leave? so they have _ trapped. why don't you want to leave? so they have said i trapped. why don't you want to leave? so they have said we i trapped. why don't you want to i leave? so they have said we don't want to leave, they are older people who cannot get away, give us your power bank so they can charge their devices. while the water levels have stabilised, they are still daunting lehigh. we arejust stabilised, they are still daunting lehigh. we are just now passing through two apartment blocks. it feels like a strange theme park ride. because of all we have to leave through. yet, victor is asking people whether or not they want to
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be evacuated. no one yet has taken him up on that offer. why do you think people don't want to leave their homes?— think people don't want to leave theirhomes? , , ., , , their homes? many people are stupid. the think their homes? many people are stupid. they think it's — their homes? many people are stupid. they think it's ok, — their homes? many people are stupid. they think it's ok, maybe _ their homes? many people are stupid. they think it's ok, maybe one - their homes? many people are stupid. they think it's ok, maybe one day i their homes? many people are stupid. they think it's ok, maybe one day or. they think it's ok, maybe one day or two days, but it's not ok. every time there is water more and more and more. ~ , ., , . , and more. when this finally recedes, ou and more. when this finally recedes, you wonder — and more. when this finally recedes, you wonder what _ and more. when this finally recedes, you wonder what will _ and more. when this finally recedes, you wonder what will be _ and more. when this finally recedes, you wonder what will be left, - and more. when this finally recedes, you wonder what will be left, a i you wonder what will be left, a wall, an invasion by russia which takes everything. we can go now to ukraine life. we are joined takes everything. we can go now to ukraine life. we arejoined by a volunteer who helped today. thank you very much for coming in the programme. what was it like out there trying to help people? what were the conditions like? it is there trying to help people? what were the conditions like?- were the conditions like? it is so hard now because _ were the conditions like? it is so hard now because it's _ were the conditions like? it is so hard now because it's really i were the conditions like? it is soj hard now because it's really hard because the day was hard with
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russian attack in the space where our workers and partners do their work and try to evacuate people and pets from their homes, but russian rockets just tried to destroy it, and now we buy our border to make our work, wejust finished our our work, we just finished our way and our work, wejust finished our way and when i put it away and have two minutes for my food, we have been attacked, and everyone in the army, it was maybe more than 50 or 70 volunteers, policeman and people from the government rescue mission,
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just go to their basements, because russians didn't stop. find just go to their basements, because russians didn't stop.— just go to their basements, because russians didn't stop. and how close, do ou russians didn't stop. and how close, do you know — russians didn't stop. and how close, do you know how _ russians didn't stop. and how close, do you know how close _ russians didn't stop. and how close, do you know how close the _ russians didn't stop. and how close, do you know how close the shelling i do you know how close the shelling was to you? it do you know how close the shelling was to you?— do you know how close the shelling was to you? it was close to me may be 40 or 50 — was to you? it was close to me may be 40 or 50 metres. _ was to you? it was close to me may be 40 or 50 metres. wow. - was to you? it was close to me may be 40 or 50 metres. wow. right i was to you? it was close to me may be 40 or 50 metres. wow. right on j be 40 or 50 metres. wow. right on the border, because _ be 40 or 50 metres. wow. right on the border, because i— be 40 or 50 metres. wow. right on the border, because ijust - be 40 or 50 metres. wow. right on the border, because ijust finished my work and tried to get home. and our volunteers get food for people who come from their homes and for volunteers and any time they go away or go to a more safe zone. that volunteers and any time they go away or go to a more safe zone.— or go to a more safe zone. that is an absolutely _ or go to a more safe zone. that is an absolutely remarkable - or go to a more safe zone. that is an absolutely remarkable story. l or go to a more safe zone. that is an absolutely remarkable story. i | or go to a more safe zone. that is i an absolutely remarkable story. i am delighted you are safe. good luck with all of your efforts. thank you very much for talking to us and sparing the time. we really appreciate it. that is the programme. this is bbc news.
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you are watching bbc news and we are bringing you live coverage of the west ham victory parade. west ham have one yesterday their first major trophy for 43 years with the europa conference league final victory. this is the scene at stratford old town hall near the london stadium, where thousands of the fans are waiting, and our reporter mark edwards is there amongst them. mark, our international viewers have just joined us. just some but what is going on with you at the moment. —— just some opt. going on with you at the moment. -- just some opt-— just some opt. moments away from otentiall just some opt. moments away from potentially the _ just some opt. moments away from potentially the biggest _ just some opt. moments away from potentially the biggest party - just some opt. moments away from potentially the biggest party from l potentially the biggest party from many here. you can feel it in the air. we found out the people that will speak to the crowd will be captain extraordinaire declan rice, the match winner, the man of the match, and somebody who has been an incredible form over the last couple of seasons, chaired by wayne, and also the man who is really made it
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all possible, david moyes, the manager, so while they might not be aware that this is going to be happening, the reception that they are going to get this going to be incredible. and there is, as we have said, and as we have seen, sees and sees, where the buses are, just waiting, because they will be filing in where you see those coaches there now. they will be filing an end coming in here through the bottom and onto these famous steps, where hammers heroes of all of 1965 stood here and waved the winners cup, and it will be a really wonderful symmetry to have that here, and already, we can see in the smaller enclosure behind me, i'm not sure if we can, some of the families, i thought i spotted declan rice's brother, and his nephew, i believe, who was sort of wasted on declan
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rice's shoulders last night in prague, had probably the single greatest moment of his young life so far. as you can see, they are there, people are getting the party very much ready, i don't know if you were a part of the apps, there was some confused younger faces about being the one and only, but, again, party atmosphere, and just a sense of euphoria. they keep calling themselves the champions of europe, and why not? in their minds, they one of european trophy and they feel like the kings of european football right now. like the kings of european football ri . ht now. , , like the kings of european football riaht now. , , ., like the kings of european football riahtnow. , _,, , like the kings of european football riahtnow. , ,.,, , ., , right now. give us a sense of 'ust how bi a right now. give us a sense of 'ust how big a victory i right now. give us a sense of 'ust how big a victory that i right now. give us a sense of 'ust how big a victory that says, i right now. give us a sense ofjust i how big a victory that says, because it is 43 years since they have actually had a major trophy win, isn't it? i actually had a ma'or trophy win, isn't it? ~ , actually had a ma'or trophy win, isn't it? ~' , ., ., isn't it? i think they had a ma'or oint to isn't it? i think they had a ma'or point to prove d isn't it? i think they had a ma'or point to prove after i isn't it? i think they had a ma'or point to prove after the i isn't it? i think they had a major point to prove after the season l isn't it? i think they had a major. point to prove after the season that they had had. since the last trophy,
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of course, well, it sort of does play into that a little bit, you know, this season hasn't been a great season on any level, really, in fact, they flirted with relegation for most of it. a lot of these fans were calling for david moyes to be sacked, yet he has given them this incredible moment. we had a fan here who is said that he went to the fa cup final 16 years ago, where they lost to liverpool, and since that time, he had two children that were with him. he'd only been able to watch it here at a pub down the road. he'd fallen off the chair when jared bowen the road. he'd fallen off the chair whenjared bowen scored the winner. he looked like he injured himself quite badly, which although he played it down, it was quite amusing in away. but voice was breaking when he was describing that feeling of the goal, and you look around and all of the faces were smiling back at him because itjust means so much
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