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days after a major dam of the us was destroyed the rest claimed their satellites detected an explosion just before he collapsed. the rescue mission for those left stranded by the floods, with tens of thousands still lacking access to food and water. donald trump is charged over his handling of classified documents after he left the white house. the former culture secretary nadine dorries has tweeted that she will stand down as the mp — as we wait for borisjohnson�*s resignation honours list to be published. high temperatures are expected this weekend in some areas of england. we'll talk live to the charity age uk on how to protect us against this heatwave. hello, welcome to verified live, three hours of breaking stories, and checking out the truth behind them.
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military experts say the area will be the focus of ukraine's long—awaited counteroffensive. let's start this hour by looking more detail about what we know about damn collapse. rajini vaidyanathan has been working with the bbc verify team and explained more from the verify hub. as people try and work out what caused the breach of the dam, more and more data is coming into us to help us try and piece what happened. now we've had some data, as you mentioned, from norwegian scientists who've been monitoring the seismic signals and they detected seismic signals from romania that suggested, according to their work, that there was an explosion at 254 local time. this is the time in norwegian time. so you can see there on that wave a peak. and that's what they say indicates there was an explosion. and crucially, what they say is that while they can't pinpoint exactly where it was, it was within a 20 to 30
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kilometre radius of the dam. now, we've spoken to them since they published that. and they also say that they detected weak signals from what they describe as an earlier event at 235 local time, so about 20 minutes before that. and they say that those weaker signals originated from the direction of the dam. let's fast forward 20 minutes. before that, we've been monitoring the local telegram chats. and people were talking 2:18, 2:19 and onwards about explosions, things that they say maybe being the sound of a drone explosions and loud noises. so reports on the ground that people could hear something, perhaps an explosion even 20 minutes before norwegian scientists say there were those two explosions, one that was quite a big one. and we lastly come to this.
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we've played you this before. this is surveillance footage which shows the dam after what appears to have already been breached. crucially, the timestamp on this is 246 in the morning. so, that's actually a little bit before the norwegian scientists say there was a major explosion. you can see there, that's the hydroelectric power station there. you can see the extent of the breach there. in footage that we have from the morning after, you can see even more damage to that hydroelectric power station. so we're getting more and more information, more details. it's still unclear what the timeline exactly was. and, of course, we still don't know what caused that breach. what a red line has been crossed if
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western leaders out there realise the magnitude of this redline, then they should. what we are looking at is a very widespread impact from this explosion. number one would be food prices are going to spike once again, because grain exports, a lot of things will be moving. secondly, we are already feeling appeared during a doctor, a crush of migrants. i suspect a number of them will be headed towards other countries. and then thirdly the ecological damage. we are already seeing reports of 0desa on debris of animals and dead animals washing up on the shores. there are a lot of other states, on the shores. there are a lot of otherstates, but on the shores. there are a lot of other states, but they are gonna be filling it his wheel. the magnitude of this cannot be overestimated. michael, i wasjust of this cannot be overestimated. michael, i was just asking of this cannot be overestimated. michael, i wasjust asking paul this exact question. is it possible to make some sort of earlyjudgment about how much having to deal with
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the massive humanitarian crisis and the massive humanitarian crisis and the logistics, how much that interferes, distracts with the counteroffensive?— interferes, distracts with the counteroffensive? ~ ., ., ., counteroffensive? well, a lot of the organisations _ counteroffensive? well, a lot of the organisations that _ counteroffensive? well, a lot of the organisations that were _ counteroffensive? well, a lot of the organisations that were doing - counteroffensive? well, a lot of the organisations that were doing the l organisations that were doing the regular stuff, organisations that were doing the regularstuff, helping organisations that were doing the regular stuff, helping people affected by the fighting and moving them out of harms way, are now being diverted to rescuing people and providing water, and that sort of thing. and state resources, lots of state resources have had to be diverted to provide things like clean drinking water to rescue people. so this is clearly a distraction, if we can put it that way, probably an intentional one. i tend to agree with what paul was reporting about, that there is now more and more, this appears to been a deliberate act by the russian side. ~ ., ~ ., ., side. we have known it right from the early part _ side. we have known it right from the early part of— side. we have known it right from the early part of this _ side. we have known it right from the early part of this week - side. we have known it right from the early part of this week that i the early part of this week that officials in ukraine giving very little detail about this counteroffensive, for all the obvious reasons, but what do you think are the next stages, what we've seen so far, and what you think is likely to come both on the
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ground and even potentially in the air? i ground and even potentially in the air? ., �* ~' ground and even potentially in the air? ., �* ~ ., ., , air? i don't think were going to be seeinu a air? i don't think were going to be seeing a counteroffensive - air? i don't think were going to be seeing a counteroffensive from i air? i don't think were going to be i seeing a counteroffensive from likes like a ruck. it's going to be a lot of different points along the front line. i think a major thrust of the ukrainians will be to sever that land bridge that connects russia mainland with crimea. that's going to be a number one objective. i wouldn't be surprised if there is also an early quote unquote accident on the bridge to really close off crimea. but the ukrainians are also, as reported, taking advantage of the new military that has come their way. my understanding is that ukrainian pilots have been training for quite some time, so as soon as those arrive from poland they will be ready to hop in. and then finally, i think that the ukrainians are going to be taken advantage of the organisation, disorganisation on the organisation, disorganisation on the russian side, the wegner group
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hasjust the russian side, the wegner group has just committed 200,000 troops, where they're going to find them i don't know, but things are not looking good for the russians at all. ., �* , ., looking good for the russians at all. ., �*, ., , ., ~ all. now, let's turn to breaking news, because _ all. now, let's turn to breaking news, because we _ all. now, let's turn to breaking news, because we have - all. now, let's turn to breaking news, because we have been l all. now, let's turn to breaking - news, because we have been expecting it through the course of the day, the former prime minister boris johnson recognition honours list has just been published. there has been a huge amount of controversy surrounding this honours list. 0utgoing prime minister is, there is a tradition that they create honours, peerages, knighthoods, and there is a list that is usually of supporters of the outgoing prime minister. but this one surrounded in more controversy than most in terms of borisjohnson. his behaviour in office, some of the names that have been rumoured to be on the list, but that list just been rumoured to be on the list, but that listjust been published in the last few minutes. let me take you through some of the early names, because certainly we have had a
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number of names, including peerages for the former chief of staff dan rosenfield, and the teams valley mayor, and we have had a number also of knighthoods that have been announced. let me take you those, because again, there are a list of people that have been real supporters of the former prime minister. jacob mole, conor burns, and simon clark, all given knighthoods. some of the names, of course, that have floated around have caused so much controversy. we wait to see if those names are included in this list. for example, we saw a lot of media coverage around stanleyjohnson. would he be given a knighthood that was talked about for a little while? we were talking about also the former cultural secretary, there she is. that had been talked about. she has been talking about what she had
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anticipated in the last few days, knowing that it had been talked about that she was going to be elevated to the house of lords. she said that had been on the cards, but her name had now gone back to the house of lords appointment commission, and she says she hung on, wouldn't it be amazing to become a peer. forsomeone on, wouldn't it be amazing to become a peer. for someone of her background. but that doesn't seem to have happened. something significant did happen to change my mind, that is what she has said on talk tv. that is, of course, where she has a programme. sojust some that is, of course, where she has a programme. so just some of the early flavour. it will be a long list, and going through it, layla matthew is our political correspondent at westminster. layla, i know you are fresh from the printer, having printed off this list, so i've done some of the names. why don't you do some more? it is
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some of the names. why don't you do some more?— some more? it is indeed many of boris johnson's — some more? it is indeed many of boris johnson's very _ some more? it is indeed many of boris johnson's very first - some more? it is indeed many of boris johnson's very first allies, l boris johnson's very first allies, long—time political allies, people who work for him in downing street who work for him in downing street who has been given honours. 0n the peerage side, remember, that is somebody who will be elevated to the house of lords, being able to have a say in our laws. they also appear to be some of borisjohnson�*s close allies, dan rosenfield, for example, former chief of staff at downing street, ross kemp show, that is boris johnson's current spokesperson, close director of the conservative party, people who he has had very close working relationships with. so, the accusation of this honours list had been from labour, from critics, and borisjohnson been from labour, from critics, and boris johnson trying been from labour, from critics, and borisjohnson trying to get out honours and peerages to his close political allies. they had called it a carousel of cronies. now as you are saying, there has been some debate about the people who are going to potentially, according to
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reports, beginning peerages. 0ne going to potentially, according to reports, beginning peerages. one of those was an absolute staunch ally of borisjohnson those was an absolute staunch ally of boris johnson for those was an absolute staunch ally of borisjohnson for many those was an absolute staunch ally of boris johnson for many years, absolutely so angry about his removal as prime minister. there has been a lot of discussion about her. she has now announced that she is standing down as an mp with immediate effect. that will trigger a by election, but it's still not clear what has been happened to the idea of her being elevated to the house of lords because she has been on another channel saying something significant has happened today. this morning she was indicating she was not going to stand down, but she said something has happened today and she did say that her nomination had been paused back to an appointment committee because all of these nominations going through various independent committees to be vetted, to be checked. but as it stands, there are sitting mps on the list for them to get peerage so they would be elevated to the house of
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lords. now if you been given peerages, they would have to stand down ultimately and perhaps trigger a by election if they choose to stand down immediately. there seems to be a bit of a dispute going on here, not quite clear what is happened there, but certainly from the list of people who are getting honours, former director of communications at downing street, certainly very close with boris johnson, worked very closely. all getting these honours. something borisjohnson getting these honours. something boris johnson chose getting these honours. something borisjohnson chose to do, as it was his right as former prime ministers but certainly something that he chose to do. he has not made any bones about elevating his close allies and former colleagues with honours and peerages.— allies and former colleagues with honours and peerages. layla, there's a little bit of — honours and peerages. layla, there's a little bit of a _ honours and peerages. layla, there's a little bit of a problem _ honours and peerages. layla, there's a little bit of a problem with - honours and peerages. layla, there's a little bit of a problem with the - a little bit of a problem with the sound on your microphone so i'm just going to pause into a few more of the names while perhaps you can potentially fix that and i'll come back to you in a second or two. but layla just taking us through, nadine
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doris for example, and saying that something had changed. she said that she had held a number of conversations over the last 2a hours with borisjohnson, but didn't say what they had actually discussed. and of course, we have waited for this honours list for months. it's been shrouded in controversy. lalo just referencing the opposition, talking about a carousel of cronies. that is undoubtably likely to be repeated now. the list is being published. butjust to explain to people watching around the world, outgoing prime have this right to elevate and give peerages and 0bs and other sort of nominations when they leave office. but i suppose the names chosen here that are getting so much attention. i referenced earlier, stanleyjohnson had been talked about. the prime minister is father. that had got a lot of press
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publicity, as well of some of the other names, sean bailey, of course, former conservative candidate for london mayor, and of course he was involved in that lockdown breach. and of course, that famous picture. so, he has been given a peerage. so another of the names that people have been talking about and have watched closely. but as layla was going through, so many of those in the close inner circle of the prime minister, borisjohnson. 0f the close inner circle of the prime minister, borisjohnson. of course, there is so much politics. i referenced the labour party but within the conservative party, this was seen as, the tensions between rishi sunak, the prime minister scam, and borisjohnson, the former prime ministers camp, and what would happen if the current prime minister blocked the previous prime ministers honours list. so elements of that enter the equation as well. let me go back to westminster. i think we fix that microphone with layla, who is there, and she was just telling
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us jack doyle, two, who worked very closely in downing street, given an obe, closely in downing street, given an 0be, we are told that it still not quite right. so let's go to nicky, and the looking through that list as well. nikki, take us through names that you have seen.— well. nikki, take us through names that you have seen. matthew, this is from the government _ that you have seen. matthew, this is from the government website - that you have seen. matthew, this is from the government website so - from the government website so anyone _ from the government website so anyone who is watching can go to the government— anyone who is watching can go to the government website and look at this list with_ government website and look at this list with us — government website and look at this list with us. i want to start off with— list with us. i want to start off with the — list with us. i want to start off with the highest honour, that one going _ with the highest honour, that one going to _ with the highest honour, that one going to build cash. then we come down _ going to build cash. then we come down to— going to build cash. then we come down to the — going to build cash. then we come down to the dame hoods, and we've -ot down to the dame hoods, and we've got andrea — down to the dame hoods, and we've got andrea marie jenkins, who is a former_ got andrea marie jenkins, who is a former assistant, a former minister. in former assistant, a former minister. in some _ former assistant, a former minister. in some of— former assistant, a former minister. in some of the interesting ones that you have _ in some of the interesting ones that you have already been mentioning, close _ you have already been mentioning, close allies — you have already been mentioning, close allies of boris johnson, pretty— close allies of boris johnson, pretty patel, the former home secretary. she is on that list. his personal— secretary. she is on that list. his personal assistant also on that list, _ personal assistant also on that list. as— personal assistant also on that
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list. as is— personal assistant also on that list, as is michelle williams walker, _ list, as is michelle williams walker, a former special adviser to the prime — walker, a former special adviser to the prime minister. then again to the prime minister. then again to the knighthoods, and we have connor burns, _ the knighthoods, and we have connor burns, therefore the island ministeh _ burns, therefore the island minister. he gets one, as does simon richard _ minister. he gets one, as does simon richard clarke, another former minister— richard clarke, another former minister for levelling up. then we have _ minister for levelling up. then we have benjamin william elliott. here's — have benjamin william elliott. here's former conservative party co-chaih — here's former conservative party co—chair. micro fabricant, a very wellthew“— co—chair. micro fabricant, a very well— known conservative mp. co—chair. micro fabricant, a very well—known conservative mp. you often _ well—known conservative mp. you often see — well—known conservative mp. you often see them standing up during comments asking questions on behalf of his constituency. he is in that list, _ of his constituency. he is in that list. as— of his constituency. he is in that list. as is— of his constituency. he is in that list, as is william john lewis. he is a political— list, as is william john lewis. he is a political adviser to boris johnson _ is a political adviser to boris johnson. and then, as you have also mentioned, — johnson. and then, as you have also mentioned, the knighthood going to jacob rees—mogg, one of the ministers that was brought in under boris _ ministers that was brought in under borisjohnson it's ministers that was brought in under boris johnson it's government. ministers that was brought in under borisjohnson it's government. we then have — borisjohnson it's government. we then have some of the other ones that you _ then have some of the other ones that you are talking about with layla, — that you are talking about with layla, the 0be is will stop his
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former— layla, the 0be is will stop his former director of communications, also a _ former director of communications, also a former bbc political correspondent, moved into politics, he is _ correspondent, moved into politics, he is on _ correspondent, moved into politics, he is on that— correspondent, moved into politics, he is on that list, as is rosemary bait williams. that's the former press _ bait williams. that's the former press secretary to the prime minister~ _ press secretary to the prime minister. and david blair. he owned a speech— minister. and david blair. he owned a speech writer on former affairs for the _ a speech writer on former affairs for the former prime minister, boris johnson _ for the former prime minister, boris johnson he — for the former prime minister, boris johnson. he is also as you can see here former— johnson. he is also as you can see here former correspondent for the daily telegraph. he guessed that one for public— daily telegraph. he guessed that one for public service. collin bloom, the former— for public service. collin bloom, the former faith engagement adviser to the _ the former faith engagement adviser to the prime minister. so notjust politics— to the prime minister. so notjust politics that are being honest honoured in this list. this one a person— honoured in this list. this one a person outside of politics, a former faith adviser to boris johnson. person outside of politics, a former faith adviser to borisjohnson. we also have — faith adviser to borisjohnson. we also have jack doyle. you've mentioned him, former director of communications. he is getting the honour— communications. he is getting the honour for— communications. he is getting the honour for political and public service, — honour for political and public service, as we've also got ray arthur— service, as we've also got ray arthur lewis, the former deputy mayor— arthur lewis, the former deputy mayor of— arthur lewis, the former deputy mayor of london. he is getting one. and one _ mayor of london. he is getting one. and one final one here, david
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crostini, — and one final one here, david crostini, former political adviser to the _ crostini, former political adviser to the former prime minister, also getting _ to the former prime minister, also getting one. to the former prime minister, also getting one-— getting one. thanks for taking us throu~h getting one. thanks for taking us through that _ getting one. thanks for taking us through that considerable - getting one. thanks for taking us through that considerable list - through that considerable list there. let's go back to layla and westminster. microphone fixed, so layla, and terms of the wall politics here of what we are talking about, you referenced the labour opposition and the quotes from them. but we know that the labour party want reform of the house of lords. but tell us more also about the strange within the conservative party between the current prime minister, former prime minister, and whether this list got through. that is really the _ whether this list got through. that is really the story _ whether this list got through. trust is really the story of the heart of this honours list, the struggle, if you like, or lack of it between borisjohnson and rishi sunak. there had been some talk in recent weeks that rishi sunak was resisting boris johnson's honours list. there's obviously some tension, if you like, between the two parties, former colleagues of force. but there has been tension between the two camps.
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we've just got a statement from the prime minister is press secretary about the peerages, so about those nominations to the house of lords, because there have been some suggestion as i was saying from nadine dories that pretty soon eric had played a role in perhaps stopping her getting a peerage, as was strongly suggested. now the statement from the prime minister as press secretary, i'm going to read that out to you, it says as his convention, the former prime minister spiritualist was forwarded to the house of lords appointment committee. that committee then parse that back their approved list. the prime minister than accepted the approved list and forwarded an amended to the sovereign for their approval. he had no involvement or input into the approved list. and it is a point of fact that it is made public by the commission if a prime minister overrules the commissions advice. so as i was saying, nominations for peerages go to an independent commission, the house of lords appointments commission for things like vetting checks and
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security checks. now, rishi sunak in downing street making it very clear that he has had no interference with this list. that is certainly not what nadine dories were suggesting when she gave an interview earlier. but at the moment, that seems to be the position. there has been tension between the two camps but as it stands, according to her, some nominations have gone back to this appointments committee and perhaps will be come back again at a later point. will be come back again at a later oint. ., , ., will be come back again at a later oint. . ., ., ., ,, , point. layla, thanks for taking us through the _ point. layla, thanks for taking us through the list and _ point. layla, thanks for taking us through the list and some - point. layla, thanks for taking us through the list and some of - point. layla, thanks for taking us through the list and some of that political background. thanks. we will return to that story a little later. let's turn to american politics. donald trump has become the first former us president to face federal criminal charges. he's been indicted alongside his aide at the time — walt nauta — by the justice department,
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over the handling of hundreds of classified documents, after trump left the white house in 2021. and in the last few minutes, two lawyers representing former us president donald trump have resigned. if found guilty, donald trump potentially faces years in prison. donald trump, who's the frontrunner for the 2024 republican presidential nomination, responded like this. he has called the charges the scam and the hoax. jess parkerjoins us live from washington. tell us more about these resignations, then.- tell us more about these resignations, then. they have released a — resignations, then. they have released a statement, - resignations, then. they have released a statement, thesel resignations, then. they have i released a statement, these two lawyers, saying they tendered their resignations. but they are still sounding very supportive of donald trump. i was watching last nightjim trustee, who was out on the airways on us media, making the case for donald trump, outlining what the legal team knew about as the news of the indictment broke although they had still not seen the charge sheet, but in their statement they say it has been an honour to spend the last year defending donald trump. they know he will be vindicated in his battle against what they call the
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biden administration sparta san weaponisation of the american justice system. this is an accusation coming from donald trump and his supporters, that the justice system is being weapon eyes to go after donald trump. joe biden has rejected that. so it seems something about a shake—up about donald trump legal team carte blanche, who was already one of us lawyers for a separate case, seems to be taking the lead but other lawyers may be appointed. not clear at the moment exactly white what might be behind this but it is the latest development in the story that has been leading the bulletins here in the us for the last 12 hours or more. . �* . the us for the last 12 hours or more. . �*, ., ., . the french president, emmanuel macron, has met members of the public who confronted the man who stabbed four children in a park in france yesterday. one of the victims — a dutch girl — is now out of danger; the rest are in a stable condition after surgery.
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it's known one of the other victims is british. all were aged between one and three. here's president macron, praising the members of the public who intervened in the attack. translation: as president, i am very proud of you. i very proud of what has been done by fellow citizens, who just happened to be there. very proud of the role that everyone played. you did your duty, but as you did your duty, you accomplished even more, and i am extremely proud. that was the presidents a little earlier. we have seen the pictures from the last hour in the cathedral in that city with the mass being held for all of the victims of yesterday's dreadful attacks. we continue to watch what has happened theyin continue to watch what has happened they in france and bring you up—to—date in the next little while. i pause simply because we have a statement on that honours list that has just been published from the prime minister as press secretary at number ten.
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prime minister as press secretary at numberten. let prime minister as press secretary at number ten. let mejust read prime minister as press secretary at number ten. let me just read what has been sent to me. it says as his convention, the prime minister forwarded the former prime minister spiritualist to that body that looks at it unaltered. the body then passed back their approval list to the prime minister who then accepted the prime minister who then accepted the approved list and forwarded on amended to the king for their approval. he had no involvement or input into the approved list. it is a point of fact that it is made public by the commission if a prime minister overrules the commissions advice. so, perhaps a response, very quickly, after what nadine dorries has said, but making it absolutely clear about the prime minister did not intervene. he sent the list to the body, and they sent back their conclusions, and that is what is being published in the last little while. we live more in that story and the rest of the headlines in just a moment. hello there. it's been the hottest day of the year so far with highs
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hitting 28.8 in porthmadog, in north west wales. we also had temperatures into the high 20s across southern england. it's set to get even hotter, though, with temperatures up to 30 degrees this weekend. how unusual is that? well, not very. we get 30 degrees or more everyjune. many of us look forward to these hot spells of weather. some of us really hate the heat. but for one or two people with underlying health conditions, the heat can cause a few problems. and for that reason, a heat health alert has been issued. however, the next few days, as well as the hot weather, we're going to see some thunderstorms, and you need the right combination of temperature and humidity to make storms. i think it's humidity that's really going to be key. how much moisture there is in the atmosphere. now overnight tonight, it is a largely dry picture. a little bit of that low cloud coming back in across northeast scotland, northeastern parts of england as well. here it'll be quite cool, but otherwise temperatures 13 or 1a for cardiff and for london for an overnight low.
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tomorrow, it's a hot and sunny day for the vast majority of the uk and for many of us it will stay dry. you can kind of see the winds bashing together across wales and south west england. that will just push up the amounts of moisture there is in the atmosphere across this part of the world. and it's that that's really important, i think, for making some big thundery downpours. one or two of those could be torrential, bringing flash flooding. but for many of us, it's a dry day. it's hot and it's sunny, with temperatures peaking up to 30 degrees. and it will stay very warm overnight as well at bedtime. temperatures still up into the 20s for some. 0n into sunday's forecast. this time, the greatest supply of moisture where the winds are brushing together is more across parts of scotland, northern ireland, wales and western england. notice the winds coming in from the east or southeast. that's slightly drier air that's affecting parts of eastern england. so, there's not so many showers and thunderstorms there. another hot day, though, for the vast majority heading into monday, again, the storms are tending to be biased towards western areas of the uk. that drier air working in across eastern areas of england means there will be fewer showers, even though we'll have
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