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themselves are sacrifices that they themselves are having to make. in the end, it is that gap, the gap between the world of io that gap, the gap between the world of 10 downing street doing a lockdown, and the world in which the rest of the country was living, that was, in the end, that began to seriously erode mrjohnson�*s credibility with the wider public. i think the honest truth is very difficult for him to get his way back. politicians at one stage, who were extremely popular, are not necessarily always popular. tony blair was very popular before he became prime minister, and for quite a while while he was prime minister. but in the wake of the iraq war, he never, ever, recovered. his party eventually eased him out two years after the 2005 general election. mr johnson, won his party and election, that very remarkable success, but the truth is, now, he has spent... he is spent, he has destroyed his
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credibility and therefore, to be honest, i think the only advice is he's only way back... as has been suggested, the potentialfuture for him as an after—dinner speaker and he is a good speaker, a very good in that kind of environment. there may also be a role for him on television. alarm as a politician, i think frankly n0- _ alarm as a politician, i think frankly no. thanks - alarm as a politician, i think frankly no. thanks for - alarm as a politician, i think frankly no. thanks for that. | alarm as a politician, i think - frankly no. thanks for that. always with a historical _ frankly no. thanks for that. always with a historical reference - frankly no. thanks for that. always with a historical reference as - frankly no. thanks for that. always with a historical reference as well, | with a historical reference as well, professor. we had reaction and from the labour party and the dams, and now from the snp. not a single tear will be shared tonight in scotland at this news, and it serves as a stark reminder that we can easily rid ourselves of unelected tory government led by liars and charlatans like borisjohnson by voting for our independence. so, not a single tear will be shared tonight in scotland at this news.
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that is from the snp reacting to the news that borisjohnson is going to step down as an mp. let's go back to our panel, because we have an extra face, as you can see there, bottom right. thank you for coming on the programme. let's get your reaction straightaway to what's happened. i would think for many of us this has been _ would think for many of us this has been a _ would think for many of us this has been a long — would think for many of us this has been a long time _ would think for many of us this has been a long time coming. - would think for many of us this has been a long time coming. i- would think for many of us this has been a long time coming. i feel- been a long time coming. i feel boris _ been a long time coming. i feel borisjohnson _ been a long time coming. i feel borisjohnson his— been a long time coming. i feel boris johnson his legacy - been a long time coming. i feel boris johnson his legacy will . been a long time coming. i feel boris johnson his legacy will be i boris johnson his legacy will be lucky— boris johnson his legacy will be lucky to— boris johnson his legacy will be lucky to cast _ boris johnson his legacy will be lucky to cast a _ boris johnson his legacy will be lucky to cast a great _ boris johnson his legacy will be lucky to cast a great stain - boris johnson his legacy will be lucky to cast a great stain over| lucky to cast a great stain over integrity — lucky to cast a great stain over integrity in _ lucky to cast a great stain over integrity in british _ lucky to cast a great stain over integrity in british politics. - lucky to cast a great stain over integrity in british politics. he| integrity in british politics. he had it— integrity in british politics. he had it alt _ integrity in british politics. he had it all. he— integrity in british politics. he had it all. he had _ integrity in british politics. he had it all. he had this - integrity in british politics. he had it all. he had this 90 - integrity in british politics. he had it all. he had this 90 seat majority _ had it all. he had this 90 seat majority he _ had it all. he had this 90 seat majority. he had _ had it all. he had this 90 seat majority. he had civil- had it all. he had this 90 seat majority. he had civil servicel majority. he had civil service behind — majority. he had civil service behind him _ majority. he had civil service behind him. and _ majority. he had civil service behind him. and he - majority. he had civil servicel behind him. and he managed majority. he had civil service i behind him. and he managed to conwteteiy— behind him. and he managed to completely destroy— behind him. and he managed to completely destroy everything. i behind him. and he managed to. completely destroy everything. he self sabotaged _ completely destroy everything. he self sabotaged everything - completely destroy everything. he self sabotaged everything because completely destroy everything. he . self sabotaged everything because of his own _ self sabotaged everything because of his own vaingiory. _ self sabotaged everything because of his own vainglory, his _ self sabotaged everything because of his own vainglory, his ego, _ self sabotaged everything because of his own vainglory, his ego, and - self sabotaged everything because of
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his own vainglory, his ego, and his. his own vainglory, his ego, and his inability— his own vainglory, his ego, and his inability to— his own vainglory, his ego, and his inability to tell— his own vainglory, his ego, and his inability to tell the _ his own vainglory, his ego, and his inability to tell the truth, - his own vainglory, his ego, and his inability to tell the truth, as - inability to tell the truth, as well as the _ inability to tell the truth, as well as the fact — inability to tell the truth, as well as the fact that _ inability to tell the truth, as well as the fact that he _ inability to tell the truth, as well as the fact that he was _ inability to tell the truth, as well as the fact that he was clearly. inability to tell the truth, as well. as the fact that he was clearly very lazy, _ as the fact that he was clearly very lazy, incompetent, _ as the fact that he was clearly very lazy, incompetent, and _ as the fact that he was clearly very lazy, incompetent, and was - as the fact that he was clearly very lazy, incompetent, and wasjust. as the fact that he was clearly veryl lazy, incompetent, and wasjust not up lazy, incompetent, and wasjust not up to— lazy, incompetent, and wasjust not up to the _ lazy, incompetent, and wasjust not up to the job — lazy, incompetent, and wasjust not up to the job we _ lazy, incompetent, and wasjust not up to the job. we were _ lazy, incompetent, and wasjust not up to the job. we were just hearing | up to the job. we were just hearing from _ up to the job. we were just hearing from mr_ up to the job. we were just hearing from mrjohn — up to the job. we were just hearing from mrjohn curtis, _ up to the job. we were just hearing from mrjohn curtis, very— up to the job. we were just hearing from mrjohn curtis, very good - up to the job. we were just hearing from mrjohn curtis, very good in l from mrjohn curtis, very good in the after— from mrjohn curtis, very good in the after dinner— from mrjohn curtis, very good in the after dinner speaking - from mrjohn curtis, very good in the after dinner speaking circuit, | the after dinner speaking circuit, or on— the after dinner speaking circuit, or on panel— the after dinner speaking circuit, or on panel shows— the after dinner speaking circuit, or on panel shows like _ the after dinner speaking circuit, or on panel shows like have - the after dinner speaking circuit, or on panel shows like have i- the after dinner speaking circuit, j or on panel shows like have i got news _ or on panel shows like have i got news for— or on panel shows like have i got news for you _ or on panel shows like have i got news for you. in _ or on panel shows like have i got news for you. in government, i or on panel shows like have i got news for you. in government, anj news for you. in government, an unmitigated — news for you. in government, an unmitigated disaster. _ news for you. in government, an unmitigated disaster. everythingj news for you. in government, an. unmitigated disaster. everything he has touched — unmitigated disaster. everything he has touched has _ unmitigated disaster. everything he has touched has turned _ unmitigated disaster. everything he has touched has turned toxic. - unmitigated disaster. everything he has touched has turned toxic. he'sl unmitigated disaster. everything he| has touched has turned toxic. he's a political— has touched has turned toxic. he's a political biohazard _ has touched has turned toxic. he's a political biohazard in _ has touched has turned toxic. he's a political biohazard in the _ political biohazard in the conservative _ political biohazard in the conservative party. - political biohazard in the conservative party. andl political biohazard in the l conservative party. and of political biohazard in the - conservative party. and of course political biohazard in the _ conservative party. and of course he has left _ conservative party. and of course he has left this — conservative party. and of course he has left this country— conservative party. and of course he has left this country in _ conservative party. and of course he has left this country in a _ conservative party. and of course he has left this country in a terrible - has left this country in a terrible state _ has left this country in a terrible state as— has left this country in a terrible state as weii~ _ has left this country in a terrible state as well. he _ has left this country in a terrible state as well. he was _ has left this country in a terrible state as well. he was a - has left this country in a terrible state as well. he was a good - state as well. he was a good cambaigner_ state as well. he was a good campaignerand_ state as well. he was a good campaignerand his- state as well. he was a good campaigner and his decisionl state as well. he was a good . campaigner and his decision to campaign _ campaigner and his decision to campaign for— campaigner and his decision to campaign for brexit _ campaigner and his decision to campaign for brexit after- campaigner and his decision to campaign for brexit after he i campaigner and his decision to - campaign for brexit after he wrote two different — campaign for brexit after he wrote two different articles _ campaign for brexit after he wrote two different articles and he - campaign for brexit after he wrote i two different articles and he picked the root _ two different articles and he picked the root which _ two different articles and he picked the root which would _ two different articles and he picked the root which would self— two different articles and he picked the root which would self serve - the root which would self serve himseif~ — the root which would self serve himself it _ the root which would self serve himself. it left _ the root which would self serve himself. it left this _ the root which would self serve himself. it left this country- the root which would self serve himself. it left this country and the root which would self serve i himself. it left this country and a really big — himself. it left this country and a really big mess _ himself. it left this country and a really big mess. i— himself. it left this country and a really big mess. i think- himself. it left this country and a really big mess. i think he's - really big mess. i think he's had this interim _ really big mess. i think he's had this interim report _ really big mess. i think he's had this interim report in _ really big mess. i think he's had this interim report in from - this interim report in from the partygate _ this interim report in from the partygate committee. - this interim report in from the partygate committee. he - this interim report in from the partygate committee. he canl this interim report in from the i partygate committee. he can see this interim report in from the - partygate committee. he can see the writing _ partygate committee. he can see the writing is— partygate committee. he can see the writing is on— partygate committee. he can see the writing is on the _ partygate committee. he can see the writing is on the wall, _ partygate committee. he can see the writing is on the wall, and _ partygate committee. he can see the writing is on the wall, and he - partygate committee. he can see the writing is on the wall, and he has - writing is on the wall, and he has decided _ writing is on the wall, and he has decided to— writing is on the wall, and he has decided to basically— writing is on the wall, and he has decided to basicallyjump - writing is on the wall, and he has decided to basicallyjump beforel writing is on the wall, and he has . decided to basicallyjump before he was pushed — decided to basicallyjump before he was pushed i— decided to basicallyjump before he was pushed. i think— decided to basicallyjump before he was pushed. i think he's _ decided to basicallyjump before he was pushed. i think he's done - was pushed. i think he's done immense _ was pushed. i think he's done immense damage _ was pushed. i think he's done immense damage to- was pushed. i think he's done immense damage to honour. was pushed. i think he's done . immense damage to honour and was pushed. i think he's done - immense damage to honour and trust
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in british— immense damage to honour and trust in british politics, _ immense damage to honour and trust in british politics, sitting _ immense damage to honour and trust in british politics, sitting in— in british politics, sitting in focus — in british politics, sitting in focus groups _ in british politics, sitting in focus groups all— in british politics, sitting in focus groups all around - in british politics, sitting inj focus groups all around the in british politics, sitting in- focus groups all around the country, peopie _ focus groups all around the country, peopie feet— focus groups all around the country, peopie feet iike _ focus groups all around the country, people feel like their— focus groups all around the country, people feel like their trust _ focus groups all around the country, people feel like their trust in- people feel like their trust in politics— people feel like their trust in politics is— people feel like their trust in politics is so _ people feel like their trust in politics is so low— people feel like their trust in politics is so low because - people feel like their trust in politics is so low because he | people feel like their trust in. politics is so low because he is people feel like their trust in- politics is so low because he is the one that _ politics is so low because he is the one that stood _ politics is so low because he is the one that stood up _ politics is so low because he is the one that stood up at _ politics is so low because he is the one that stood up at the _ politics is so low because he is the one that stood up at the podium . politics is so low because he is the | one that stood up at the podium at downing street _ one that stood up at the podium at downing street and _ one that stood up at the podium at downing street and said _ one that stood up at the podium at downing street and said look, - one that stood up at the podium at downing street and said look, we i downing street and said look, we all have to _ downing street and said look, we all have to abide — downing street and said look, we all have to abide by— downing street and said look, we all have to abide by these _ downing street and said look, we all have to abide by these rules. - downing street and said look, we all have to abide by these rules. he - have to abide by these rules. he didn't— have to abide by these rules. he didn't abide _ have to abide by these rules. he didn't abide by— have to abide by these rules. he didn't abide by these _ have to abide by these rules. he didn't abide by these rules. - have to abide by these rules. he| didn't abide by these rules. even the queen— didn't abide by these rules. even the queen abided _ didn't abide by these rules. even the queen abided by _ didn't abide by these rules. even the queen abided by the - didn't abide by these rules. even the queen abided by the rules, i didn't abide by these rules. even. the queen abided by the rules, as she sat _ the queen abided by the rules, as she sat there _ the queen abided by the rules, as she sat there by— the queen abided by the rules, as she sat there by herself _ the queen abided by the rules, as she sat there by herself at - the queen abided by the rules, as she sat there by herself at princel she sat there by herself at prince phillips funeral. _ she sat there by herself at prince phillips funeral. so _ she sat there by herself at prince phillips funeral. so i _ she sat there by herself at prince phillips funeral. so i kind - she sat there by herself at prince phillips funeral. so i kind of- she sat there by herself at princel phillips funeral. so i kind of agree with the _ phillips funeral. so i kind of agree with the sentiment _ phillips funeral. so i kind of agree with the sentiment in _ phillips funeral. so i kind of agree with the sentiment in the - phillips funeral. so i kind of agree with the sentiment in the snp. i. with the sentiment in the snp. i don't _ with the sentiment in the snp. i don't think— with the sentiment in the snp. i don't think many— with the sentiment in the snp. i don't think many tears - with the sentiment in the snp. i don't think many tears will- with the sentiment in the snp. i don't think many tears will be i with the sentiment in the snp. i- don't think many tears will be shed. he leaves— don't think many tears will be shed. he leaves this — don't think many tears will be shed. he leaves this country _ don't think many tears will be shed. he leaves this country in _ don't think many tears will be shed. he leaves this country in a - don't think many tears will be shed. he leaves this country in a terrible i he leaves this country in a terrible state and — he leaves this country in a terrible state and he — he leaves this country in a terrible state and he leaves _ he leaves this country in a terrible state and he leaves his— he leaves this country in a terrible state and he leaves his party- he leaves this country in a terrible state and he leaves his party and i he leaves this country in a terrible | state and he leaves his party and a terrible _ state and he leaves his party and a terrible state — state and he leaves his party and a terrible state as _ state and he leaves his party and a terrible state as well. _ state and he leaves his party and a terrible state as well. i’m“ - terrible state as well. i'm interested, _ terrible state as well. i'm interested, you _ terrible state as well. i'm interested, you are - terrible state as well. i'm interested, you are a - terrible state as well.“ interested, you are a broadcaster now, familiar to many, but you are of course former political adviser to labour politicians. back in those days, when borisjohnson was in the ascendancy, there must�*ve been a sense of, this is a politician who does things differently, this is a politician to fear.— does things differently, this is a politician to fear. look, there was definitely a _ politician to fear. look, there was definitely a buzz _ politician to fear. look, there was definitely a buzz about _ politician to fear. look, there was definitely a buzz about boris - definitely a buzz about boris johnson _ definitely a buzz about boris johnson i— definitely a buzz about boris johnson. i remember-
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definitely a buzz about boris johnson. i remembera- definitely a buzz about boris i johnson. i remembera leading political— johnson. i remembera leading political photographer - johnson. i remembera leading political photographer saying . johnson. i remember a leading . political photographer saying that when _ political photographer saying that when he — political photographer saying that when he was _ political photographer saying that when he was going _ political photographer saying that when he was going around - political photographer saying that when he was going around the . political photographer saying that - when he was going around the country there was— when he was going around the country there was this — when he was going around the country there was this incredible _ when he was going around the country there was this incredible reaction - there was this incredible reaction that he _ there was this incredible reaction that he was— there was this incredible reaction that he was getting _ there was this incredible reaction that he was getting from - there was this incredible reaction that he was getting from people. there was this incredible reaction - that he was getting from people. but ithink— that he was getting from people. but i think many— that he was getting from people. but i think many peopie _ that he was getting from people. but i think many people did _ that he was getting from people. but i think many people did see - that he was getting from people. but i think many people did see throughl i think many people did see through him. i think many people did see through him i_ i think many people did see through him ithink— i think many people did see through him. i think many— i think many people did see through him. i think many people _ i think many people did see through him. i think many people as - i think many people did see through him. i think many people as well. him. i think many people as well hope _ him. i think many people as well hope that— him. i think many people as well hope that if— him. i think many people as well hope that if you _ him. i think many people as well hope that if you did _ him. i think many people as well hope that if you did get- him. i think many people as well hope that if you did get a - him. i think many people as well hope that if you did get a big job| hope that if you did get a big job he wanted — hope that if you did get a big job he wanted from a _ hope that if you did get a big job he wanted from a young - hope that if you did get a big job he wanted from a young age, i hope that if you did get a big jobi he wanted from a young age, but hope that if you did get a big job- he wanted from a young age, but he would _ he wanted from a young age, but he would somehow— he wanted from a young age, but he would somehow have _ he wanted from a young age, but he would somehow have a _ he wanted from a young age, but he would somehow have a conversion. i he wanted from a young age, but he i would somehow have a conversion. at a leopard _ would somehow have a conversion. at a leopard cannot— would somehow have a conversion. at a leopard cannot change _ would somehow have a conversion. at a leopard cannot change his _ would somehow have a conversion. at a leopard cannot change his spots. - would somehow have a conversion. at a leopard cannot change his spots. i. a leopard cannot change his spots. i think— a leopard cannot change his spots. i think the _ a leopard cannot change his spots. i think the problem _ a leopard cannot change his spots. i think the problem for— a leopard cannot change his spots. i think the problem for doris - a leopard cannot change his spots. i think the problem for doris function| think the problem for doris function is that— think the problem for doris function is that he _ think the problem for doris function is that he from _ think the problem for doris function is that he from a _ think the problem for doris function is that he from a very _ think the problem for doris function is that he from a very early - is that he from a very early age said _ is that he from a very early age said he — is that he from a very early age said he wanted _ is that he from a very early age said he wanted to _ is that he from a very early age said he wanted to be _ is that he from a very early age said he wanted to be the - is that he from a very early age said he wanted to be the king i is that he from a very early age l said he wanted to be the king of is that he from a very early age - said he wanted to be the king of the world _ said he wanted to be the king of the world that— said he wanted to be the king of the world that is— said he wanted to be the king of the world. that is the _ said he wanted to be the king of the world. that is the fabled _ said he wanted to be the king of the world. that is the fabled story- world. that is the fabled story about — world. that is the fabled story about boris _ world. that is the fabled story about borisjohnson. - world. that is the fabled story about borisjohnson. but - world. that is the fabled story about borisjohnson. but he . world. that is the fabled story- about borisjohnson. but he didn't know— about borisjohnson. but he didn't know what— about borisjohnson. but he didn't know what he _ about borisjohnson. but he didn't know what he wanted _ about borisjohnson. but he didn't know what he wanted to _ about borisjohnson. but he didn't know what he wanted to do - about borisjohnson. but he didn't know what he wanted to do it - about borisjohnson. but he didn't know what he wanted to do it with his power~ — know what he wanted to do it with his power~ he _ know what he wanted to do it with his power. he kind _ know what he wanted to do it with his power. he kind of— know what he wanted to do it with his power. he kind of us _ know what he wanted to do it withl his power. he kind of us weathered between _ his power. he kind of us weathered between tots — his power. he kind of us weathered between lots of _ his power. he kind of us weathered between lots of different _ his power. he kind of us weathered between lots of different positions, ultimately — between lots of different positions, ultimately he — between lots of different positions, ultimately he wanted _ between lots of different positions, ultimately he wanted power - between lots of different positions, ultimately he wanted power for - ultimately he wanted power for himself — ultimately he wanted power for himself he _ ultimately he wanted power for himself. he wanted _ ultimately he wanted power for himself. he wanted to - ultimately he wanted power for himself. he wanted to further i ultimately he wanted power for l himself. he wanted to further his nest~ _ himself. he wanted to further his nest~ he — himself. he wanted to further his nest. he brought _ himself. he wanted to further his nest. he brought corruption - himself. he wanted to further his nest. he brought corruption intol himself. he wanted to further his i nest. he brought corruption into the heart _ nest. he brought corruption into the heart of— nest. he brought corruption into the heart of downing _ nest. he brought corruption into the heart of downing street. _ nest. he brought corruption into the heart of downing street. it - nest. he brought corruption into the heart of downing street. it was - nest. he brought corruption into the heart of downing street. it was all. heart of downing street. it was all about _ heart of downing street. it was all about cronies, getting _ heart of downing street. it was all about cronies, getting money. - heart of downing street. it was alll about cronies, getting money. just look at _ about cronies, getting money. just look at the — about cronies, getting money. just look at the honour— about cronies, getting money. just look at the honour system. - about cronies, getting money. just look at the honour system. he - about cronies, getting money. just look at the honour system. he has| look at the honour system. he has resigned _ look at the honour system. he has resigned in— look at the honour system. he has resigned in disgrace. _ look at the honour system. he has resigned in disgrace. now, - look at the honour system. he has resigned in disgrace. now, he - look at the honour system. he has . resigned in disgrace. now, he leaves this toxic— resigned in disgrace. now, he leaves this toxic set — resigned in disgrace. now, he leaves this toxic set of—
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resigned in disgrace. now, he leaves this toxic set of honours _ this toxic set of honours resignations— this toxic set of honours resignations list- this toxic set of honours resignations list which l this toxic set of honours| resignations list which is this toxic set of honours - resignations list which is actually terrible — resignations list which is actually terrible so— resignations list which is actually terrible so i_ resignations list which is actually terrible. so i think— resignations list which is actually terrible. so i think that- resignations list which is actually terrible. so i think that some - terrible. so i think that some people — terrible. so i think that some people did _ terrible. so i think that some people did fear— terrible. so i think that some people did fear him - terrible. so i think that some people did fear him as- terrible. so i think that some people did fear him as a - terrible. so i think that some - people did fear him as a campaigner. but i people did fear him as a campaigner. but i think the — people did fear him as a campaigner. but i think the people _ people did fear him as a campaigner. but i think the people that people . but i think the people that people have been— but i think the people that people have been astonished _ but i think the people that people have been astonished by- but i think the people that people have been astonished by is - but i think the people that people have been astonished by is his - have been astonished by is his ability— have been astonished by is his ability to— have been astonished by is his ability to self _ have been astonished by is his ability to self sabotage - have been astonished by is his ability to self sabotage is - have been astonished by is his - ability to self sabotage is probably unrivaled — ability to self sabotage is probably unrivaled he _ ability to self sabotage is probably unrivaled. he wanted _ ability to self sabotage is probably unrivaled. he wanted to _ ability to self sabotage is probably unrivaled. he wanted to be - ability to self sabotage is probably unrivaled. he wanted to be this i unrivaled. he wanted to be this great _ unrivaled. he wanted to be this great to— unrivaled. he wanted to be this great to chilean _ unrivaled. he wanted to be this great to chilean figure, - unrivaled. he wanted to be this great to chilean figure, but - unrivaled. he wanted to be this great to chilean figure, but he i great to chilean figure, but he will be remembered _ great to chilean figure, but he will be remembered for— great to chilean figure, but he will be remembered for the _ great to chilean figure, but he will be remembered for the man- great to chilean figure, but he will be remembered for the man who,| great to chilean figure, but he will . be remembered forthe man who, in his own _ be remembered forthe man who, in his own words. — be remembered forthe man who, in his own words, staffed _ be remembered forthe man who, in his own words, staffed up _ be remembered forthe man who, in his own words, staffed up the - be remembered forthe man who, in his own words, staffed up the war i be remembered forthe man who, in his own words, staffed up the war of the huge _ his own words, staffed up the war of the huge majority _ his own words, staffed up the war of the huge majority, and _ his own words, staffed up the war of the huge majority, and that- his own words, staffed up the war of the huge majority, and that was- his own words, staffed up the war of the huge majority, and that was all. the huge majority, and that was all his own _ the huge majority, and that was all his own faults. _ the huge majority, and that was all his own faults.— the huge majority, and that was all his own faults. what about some of the substance _ his own faults. what about some of the substance of _ his own faults. what about some of the substance of what _ his own faults. what about some of the substance of what he _ his own faults. what about some of the substance of what he was - his own faults. what about some of. the substance of what he was talking about in his resignation letter? leaving aside the rhetoric and the very strong language, talking about this privileges committee, which is investigating him and whether he misled the house of commons. in his eyes, he says this committee has not produced a shred of evidence, that i knowingly or recklessly misled the comments. he knowingly or recklessly misled the comments. ., ,._ knowingly or recklessly misled the comments. ., ._ ., comments. he would say that, wouldn't he. — comments. he would say that, wouldn't he, the _ comments. he would say that, wouldn't he, the classic- comments. he would say that,
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wouldn't he, the classic sort i comments. he would say that, l wouldn't he, the classic sort of? remember, _ wouldn't he, the classic sort of? remember, this _ wouldn't he, the classic sort of? remember, this is _ wouldn't he, the classic sort of? remember, this is the - wouldn't he, the classic sort of? remember, this is the very- wouldn't he, the classic sort of? i remember, this is the very serious parliamentary— remember, this is the very serious parliamentary inquiry— remember, this is the very serious parliamentary inquiry and - remember, this is the very serious parliamentary inquiry and it - remember, this is the very serious parliamentary inquiry and it is - parliamentary inquiry and it is pulled — parliamentary inquiry and it is pulled together— parliamentary inquiry and it is pulled together of— parliamentary inquiry and it is pulled together of mps - parliamentary inquiry and it is�* pulled together of mps across parliamentary inquiry and it is - pulled together of mps across the house _ pulled together of mps across the house. remember, _ pulled together of mps across the house. remember, it— pulled together of mps across the house. remember, it has- pulled together of mps across the house. remember, it has got - pulled together of mps across the house. remember, it has got a l house. remember, it has got a conservative _ house. remember, it has got a conservative majority— house. remember, it has got a conservative majority on - house. remember, it has got a conservative majority on it. - house. remember, it has got a i conservative majority on it. many people _ conservative majority on it. many pepple on — conservative majority on it. many pepple on that _ conservative majority on it. many people on that committee - conservative majority on it. many people on that committee will i conservative majority on it. many. people on that committee will have been big _ people on that committee will have been big supporters _ people on that committee will have been big supporters of— people on that committee will have been big supporters of boris - been big supporters of boris johnson _ been big supporters of boris johnson. but— been big supporters of boris johnson. but they _ been big supporters of boris johnson. but they also - been big supporters of boris johnson. but they also have| been big supporters of boris . johnson. but they also have to respect — johnson. but they also have to respect and _ johnson. but they also have to respect and uphold _ johnson. but they also have to respect and uphold rules - johnson. but they also have to respect and uphold rules in - respect and uphold rules in parliament— respect and uphold rules in parliament as _ respect and uphold rules in parliament as well. - respect and uphold rules in parliament as well. so - respect and uphold rules in parliament as well. so i'm i respect and uphold rules in - parliament as well. so i'm afraid all of— parliament as well. so i'm afraid all of this— parliament as well. so i'm afraid all of this crying _ parliament as well. so i'm afraid all of this crying it's _ parliament as well. so i'm afraid all of this crying it's a _ parliament as well. so i'm afraid all of this crying it's a witch - all of this crying it's a witch hunt, — all of this crying it's a witch hunt, they— all of this crying it's a witch hunt, they don't _ all of this crying it's a witch hunt, they don't have - all of this crying it's a witch hunt, they don't have the l all of this crying it's a witch - hunt, they don't have the evidence, ironically— hunt, they don't have the evidence, ironically it — hunt, they don't have the evidence, ironically it sounds _ hunt, they don't have the evidence, ironically it sounds very— hunt, they don't have the evidence, ironically it sounds very similar - hunt, they don't have the evidence, ironically it sounds very similar to l ironically it sounds very similar to another— ironically it sounds very similar to another politician _ ironically it sounds very similar to another politician who _ ironically it sounds very similar to another politician who has - ironically it sounds very similar to another politician who has just i ironically it sounds very similar to . another politician who hasjust been indicted _ another politician who hasjust been indicted across— another politician who hasjust been indicted across the _ another politician who hasjust been indicted across the pond, _ another politician who hasjust been indicted across the pond, donald . indicted across the pond, donald trump _ indicted across the pond, donald trump trlie— indicted across the pond, donald trum -. ~ _, ., , trump. we were covering that news 'ust as this trump. we were covering that news just as this news _ trump. we were covering that news just as this news broke. _ trump. we were covering that news just as this news broke. it _ trump. we were covering that news just as this news broke. it has - trump. we were covering that news just as this news broke. it has been| just as this news broke. it has been an extraordinary time. i'm sure, thanks so much for that. ijust an extraordinary time. i'm sure, thanks so much for that. i just want to go back tojoanne nadler, because we have to say goodbye in a moment. you've been with her since the beginning of this coverage. just give us your thoughts, reflections, and try and sum up what we have been going through in the last hour or so. ~ . , going through in the last hour or 50, ~ .,
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going through in the last hour or so. . ., , ., , , ., so. well, as all the guests have said, it so. well, as all the guests have said. it has _ so. well, as all the guests have said, it has really _ so. well, as all the guests have said, it has really been - so. well, as all the guests have said, it has really been an - said, it has really been an extraordinary moment. my concern throughout— extraordinary moment. my concern throughout this, these last few minutes— throughout this, these last few minutes and couple of hours, has been _ minutes and couple of hours, has been that— minutes and couple of hours, has been that inevitably the conservative party is plunging itself — conservative party is plunging itself into another period of this perhaps— itself into another period of this perhaps some self recrimination. when _ perhaps some self recrimination. when it's— perhaps some self recrimination. when it's duty is to be the government of this country, and i very much— government of this country, and i very much regret that. i have got very much regret that. i have got very mixed — very much regret that. i have got very mixed feelings about boris johnson — very mixed feelings about boris johnson i— very mixed feelings about boris johnson. i think that he did achieve some _ johnson. i think that he did achieve some very— johnson. i think that he did achieve some very notable things. in the face of— some very notable things. in the face of very concerted opposition. and i_ face of very concerted opposition. and i think— face of very concerted opposition. and i think that will serve him well as far— and i think that will serve him well as far as— and i think that will serve him well as far as the history books are concerned _ as far as the history books are concerned. but i also have to agree with a _ concerned. but i also have to agree with a lot _ concerned. but i also have to agree with a lot of— concerned. but i also have to agree with a lot of the criticism, not least — with a lot of the criticism, not least but _ with a lot of the criticism, not least but he has in many ways been his own worst enemy. i guess i've -ot his own worst enemy. i guess i've got very— his own worst enemy. i guess i've got very mixed feelings about this. but overall, i think that this is not a — but overall, i think that this is not a good _ but overall, i think that this is not a good day for the conservative
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party _ not a good day for the conservative party and — not a good day for the conservative party. and as i said right at the beginning — party. and as i said right at the beginning of this, and as we have heard, _ beginning of this, and as we have heard, it — beginning of this, and as we have heard, it will leave a lot of opportunities for opposition parties. _ opportunities for opposition parties, quite frankly, too brightly crow, _ parties, quite frankly, too brightly crow, and — parties, quite frankly, too brightly crow, and a — parties, quite frankly, too brightly crow, and a sense, i'll be at at their— crow, and a sense, i'll be at at their own _ crow, and a sense, i'll be at at their own contributions to politics are not— their own contributions to politics are not as — their own contributions to politics are not as perfect as they would like to— are not as perfect as they would like to imply. are not as perfect as they would like to imply-— are not as perfect as they would liketoiml ., ., like to imply. joanne, thank you for talkin: us like to imply. joanne, thank you for talking us through _ like to imply. joanne, thank you for talking us through and _ like to imply. joanne, thank you for talking us through and giving - like to imply. joanne, thank you for talking us through and giving us - talking us through and giving us your perspective for the last hour or so. we appreciate it. thank you. ijust want to or so. we appreciate it. thank you. i just want to remind everyone or so. we appreciate it. thank you. ijust want to remind everyone now of some of the words and the key phrases in the resignation of boris johnson in that statement, because he is stepping down as an mp with immediate effect, and in a very long statement, more than 1000 words, he claimed he had been driven out by a committee investigating whether he deliberately misled parliament. he said he had received a report by the inquiry, which he dismissed as a biased kangaroo court. here are some of what he said. it is very starred
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to believe in parliament, at least for now, but above all i am bewildered and appalled that i could bewildered and appalled that i could be forced out, anti—democratically, by a committee chaired and managed by a committee chaired and managed by harriet hartman with such an egregious bias. the panel has been examining whether mrjohnson knowingly lied about parties at downing street that broke the pandemic rules. in march the prime minister denied misleading parliament on purpose. he also seems to take a parting swipe at richie soon asked government. he says when i left office last year, the government was only a few handful of points behind the polls. that gap is now massively widened. he went on to say our party urgently needs to recapture it sense of momentum. some power isjoining us recapture it sense of momentum. some power is joining us they are. that box on the top left. very good to see you, and thanks forjoining our panel this evening. and of course we
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have professorjohn curtis and aisha with us as well. thanks for being with us as well. thanks for being with us. sam, let's start with just your immediate reaction to what happened. your immediate reaction to what ha ened. ~ , ., ., happened. well yeah, the immediate reaction is like _ happened. well yeah, the immediate reaction is like everybody _ happened. well yeah, the immediate reaction is like everybody else. - reaction is like everybody else. it's reaction is like everybody else. it's a _ reaction is like everybody else. it's a surprising offence. but i think— it's a surprising offence. but i think we _ it's a surprising offence. but i think we need to think about is boris _ think we need to think about is borisjohnson almost as think we need to think about is boris johnson almost as a classicist, right? he understands nryth— classicist, right? he understands myth more than anybody else, really. ithink— myth more than anybody else, really. i think this _ myth more than anybody else, really. i think this decision is effectively an attempt to bypass any kind of election— an attempt to bypass any kind of election in— an attempt to bypass any kind of election in which he might lose. so, perhaps— election in which he might lose. so, perhaps he has seen and read the room _ perhaps he has seen and read the room with— perhaps he has seen and read the room with regards to, and is a bit worried _ room with regards to, and is a bit worried too— room with regards to, and is a bit worried too what a potential election— worried too what a potential election in uxbridge might do, and what he _ election in uxbridge might do, and what he needs to do is hold the one thing. _ what he needs to do is hold the one thing. which — what he needs to do is hold the one thing, which is in many ways his usp as a conservative party politician, and as _ as a conservative party politician, and as a _ as a conservative party politician, and as a leader, which is that he wins _ and as a leader, which is that he wins elections. and we have seen and heard _ wins elections. and we have seen and heard from _ wins elections. and we have seen and
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heard from john curtis that, one thing _ heard from john curtis that, one thing that— heard from john curtis that, one thing that he is losing, and lots after— thing that he is losing, and lots after partygate, crinkly, is this election— after partygate, crinkly, is this election winning credentials, his personal— election winning credentials, his personal polling, and indeed the polling _ personal polling, and indeed the polling of the conservative party plummeted. so, what can he do to protect— plummeted. so, what can he do to protect that to perhaps enter politics — protect that to perhaps enter politics again, as he suggests in his resignation statement because mac well, — his resignation statement because mac well, it's not to lose an election _ mac well, it's not to lose an election. that's the one thing he can do. — election. that's the one thing he can do, protect that myth, the election— can do, protect that myth, the election winning leader, that perhaps— election winning leader, that perhaps can come back at some point the future _ perhaps can come back at some point the future. ., perhaps can come back at some point the future. ,,., ., ., perhaps can come back at some point the future. ., ., , ., ~ the future. sam, what do you think ofthe the future. sam, what do you think of the timing of _ the future. sam, what do you think of the timing of this? _ the future. sam, what do you think of the timing of this? why - the future. sam, what do you think of the timing of this? why do - the future. sam, what do you think of the timing of this? why do you l of the timing of this? why do you think right nowmark of the timing of this? why do you think right nowmari_ of the timing of this? why do you think right nowmark well, it seems like he's got _ think right nowmark well, it seems like he's got the _ think right nowmark well, it seems like he's got the privileges - like he's got the privileges committee record and he has read the report~ _ committee record and he has read the report~ he _ committee record and he has read the report. he did have two weeks, my understanding, to reply to that. we have the _ understanding, to reply to that. we have the recognition honours. it seems _ have the recognition honours. it seems like _ have the recognition honours. it seems like a time at which it is the most optimal for him to do something like this, _ most optimal for him to do something
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like this, frankly. i think one way to think— like this, frankly. i think one way to think of— like this, frankly. i think one way to think of boris johnson is there someone — to think of boris johnson is there someone who enjoys the limelight, if you will, _ someone who enjoys the limelight, if you will, and enjoys creating an amount— you will, and enjoys creating an amount of— you will, and enjoys creating an amount of chaos around him, frankly. and this _ amount of chaos around him, frankly. and this is _ amount of chaos around him, frankly. and this is one of those moments at which _ and this is one of those moments at which everyone was paying attention. you had _ which everyone was paying attention. you had nadine dorries standing down earlier— you had nadine dorries standing down earlier on _ you had nadine dorries standing down earlier on. so it does create this kind _ earlier on. so it does create this kind of— earlier on. so it does create this kind of chaos around him. he has suggested, — kind of chaos around him. he has suggested, that he is pretty upset with the _ suggested, that he is pretty upset with the way that he has been deposed — with the way that he has been deposed by rishi sunak. so i suspect that he _ deposed by rishi sunak. so i suspect that he is— deposed by rishi sunak. so i suspect that he is showing that he wants to be, an awkward part of the conservative party, and he is really trying _ conservative party, and he is really trying to, _ conservative party, and he is really trying to, i— conservative party, and he is really trying to, i suspect, build a base from _ trying to, i suspect, build a base from which — trying to, i suspect, build a base from which to fight a potential next leadership election. the problem for borisjohnson is that politics, as we have — borisjohnson is that politics, as we have seen, is unpredictable day today. _ we have seen, is unpredictable day today. let — we have seen, is unpredictable day
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today, let alone week to week, month—to—month, and year—to—year. so who knows— month—to—month, and year—to—year. so who knows where we are going to be on a year's _ who knows where we are going to be on a year's time, or that next general— on a year's time, or that next general election. so election. so he can't _ general election. so election. so he can't really — general election. so election. so he can't really rely on what he might expect— can't really rely on what he might expect this move to do. interesting. doctor sam — expect this move to do. interesting. doctor sam pollard, _ expect this move to do. interesting. doctor sam pollard, thanks - expect this move to do. interesting. doctor sam pollard, thanks for - expect this move to do. interesting. j doctor sam pollard, thanks for that. and we can speak now to alice to candle, a familiarface, too many. alastair, thank you for coming on the programme. alastair, thank you for coming on the programme-— alastair, thank you for coming on the programme. alastair, thank you for coming on the rouramme. ., ,, . ., the programme. thank you. what was your reaction — the programme. thank you. what was your reaction when _ the programme. thank you. what was your reaction when he _ the programme. thank you. what was your reaction when he heard - the programme. thank you. what was your reaction when he heard the - your reaction when he heard the news? _ your reaction when he heard the news? well— your reaction when he heard the news? well it's _ your reaction when he heard the news? well it's pretty _ your reaction when he heard the news? well it's pretty obvious . your reaction when he heard the i news? well it's pretty obvious what is going _ news? well it's pretty obvious what is going on. — news? well it's pretty obvious what is going on. which— news? well it's pretty obvious what is going on, which is— news? well it's pretty obvious what is going on, which is the _ news? well it's pretty obvious whatj is going on, which is the committee which _ is going on, which is the committee which contrary— is going on, which is the committee which contrary to _ is going on, which is the committee which contrary to the _ is going on, which is the committee which contrary to the nonsense - is going on, which is the committee which contrary to the nonsense and | which contrary to the nonsense and whingeing — which contrary to the nonsense and whingeing pedal— which contrary to the nonsense and whingeing pedal by— which contrary to the nonsense and whingeing pedal byjohnson - which contrary to the nonsense and l whingeing pedal byjohnson tonight, is tory— whingeing pedal byjohnson tonight, is tory dominated. _ whingeing pedal byjohnson tonight, is tory dominated. a _ whingeing pedal byjohnson tonight, is tory dominated. a majority - whingeing pedal byjohnson tonight, is tory dominated. a majority of - is tory dominated. a majority of tory— is tory dominated. a majority of tory mps — is tory dominated. a majority of tory mps on _ is tory dominated. a majority of tory mps on that _ is tory dominated. a majority of tory mps on that committee - is tory dominated. a majority of. tory mps on that committee have decided, — tory mps on that committee have decided, it— tory mps on that committee have decided, it would _ tory mps on that committee have decided, it would seem, - tory mps on that committee have decided, it would seem, that- tory mps on that committee have decided, it would seem, that he i tory mps on that committee have . decided, it would seem, that he did lied to _ decided, it would seem, that he did lied to parliament. _ decided, it would seem, that he did lied to parliament. he _ decided, it would seem, that he did lied to parliament. he misled - lied to parliament. he misled parliament, _ lied to parliament. he misled parliament, he _ lied to parliament. he misled parliament, he knowingly- lied to parliament. he misled i parliament, he knowingly misled parliament~ _ parliament, he knowingly misled parliament~ i_ parliament, he knowingly misled parliament. ithink— parliament, he knowingly misled parliament. i think most - parliament, he knowingly misled parliament. i think most peoplel parliament, he knowingly misled. parliament. i think most people in the country— parliament. i think most people in the country had _ parliament. i think most people in the country had already— parliament. i think most people in the country had already decided i parliament. i think most people in. the country had already decided that was already— the country had already decided that was already the _ the country had already decided that was already the case. _ the country had already decided that was already the case. he _ the country had already decided that was already the case. he has - the country had already decided thatl was already the case. he has decided
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that rather— was already the case. he has decided that rather than, _ was already the case. he has decided that rather than, remember, - was already the case. he has decided that rather than, remember, by the i that ratherthan, remember, by the way. _ that ratherthan, remember, by the way, this— that ratherthan, remember, by the way, this was— that ratherthan, remember, by the way. this was a _ that ratherthan, remember, by the way, this was a report _ that ratherthan, remember, by the way, this was a report that - that ratherthan, remember, by the way, this was a report that could i way, this was a report that could then— way, this was a report that could then go— way, this was a report that could then go to — way, this was a report that could then go to parliament _ way, this was a report that could then go to parliament for- way, this was a report that could then go to parliament for a - way, this was a report that could j then go to parliament for a vote. so if he was _ then go to parliament for a vote. so if he was confident _ then go to parliament for a vote. so if he was confident in— then go to parliament for a vote. so if he was confident in his _ then go to parliament for a vote. so if he was confident in his case, as. if he was confident in his case, as he claims — if he was confident in his case, as he claims that— if he was confident in his case, as he claims that he _ if he was confident in his case, as he claims that he is, _ if he was confident in his case, as he claims that he is, and - if he was confident in his case, as he claims that he is, and he's- if he was confident in his case, as he claims that he is, and he's notj if he was confident in his case, as. he claims that he is, and he's not a liar. but— he claims that he is, and he's not a liar. but he — he claims that he is, and he's not a liar, but he could _ he claims that he is, and he's not a liar, but he could have _ he claims that he is, and he's not a liar, but he could have taken- he claims that he is, and he's not a liar, but he could have taken not. he claims that he is, and he's not aj liar, but he could have taken not to parliament and _ liar, but he could have taken not to parliament and fought his - liar, but he could have taken not to parliament and fought his case - liar, but he could have taken not to| parliament and fought his case they are. parliament and fought his case they are instead — parliament and fought his case they are instead of— parliament and fought his case they are. instead of which, _ parliament and fought his case they are. instead of which, he _ parliament and fought his case they are. instead of which, he is - are. instead of which, he is throwing _ are. instead of which, he is throwing it— are. instead of which, he is throwing it on _ are. instead of which, he is throwing it on the - are. instead of which, he is throwing it on the ground, i are. instead of which, he is . throwing it on the ground, he are. instead of which, he is - throwing it on the ground, he is whingeing — throwing it on the ground, he is whingeing and— throwing it on the ground, he is whingeing and whining, - throwing it on the ground, he is whingeing and whining, and - throwing it on the ground, he is whingeing and whining, and it. throwing it on the ground, he is| whingeing and whining, and it is fascinating — whingeing and whining, and it is fascinating how— whingeing and whining, and it is fascinating how history- whingeing and whining, and it is. fascinating how history sometimes works— fascinating how history sometimes works like — fascinating how history sometimes works like this. _ fascinating how history sometimes works like this. you _ fascinating how history sometimes works like this. you have - fascinating how history sometimes works like this. you have two - works like this. you have two situations _ works like this. you have two situations going _ works like this. you have two situations going on _ works like this. you have two situations going on at - works like this. you have two situations going on at both i works like this. you have two i situations going on at both sides of the atlantic— situations going on at both sides of the atlantic where _ situations going on at both sides of the atlantic where the _ situations going on at both sides of the atlantic where the former - the atlantic where the former president— the atlantic where the former president trump— the atlantic where the former president trump is _ the atlantic where the former president trump is whingeingj the atlantic where the former - president trump is whingeing and whining _ president trump is whingeing and whining and — president trump is whingeing and whining and claiming _ president trump is whingeing and whining and claiming there - president trump is whingeing and whining and claiming there is - president trump is whingeing and whining and claiming there is a i whining and claiming there is a kangaroo — whining and claiming there is a kangaroo court _ whining and claiming there is a kangaroo court how— whining and claiming there is a kangaroo court how to - whining and claiming there is a kangaroo court how to get - whining and claiming there is al kangaroo court how to get him, whining and claiming there is a - kangaroo court how to get him, and boris _ kangaroo court how to get him, and borisjohnson — kangaroo court how to get him, and borisjohnson is _ kangaroo court how to get him, and borisjohnson is doing _ kangaroo court how to get him, and borisjohnson is doing the _ kangaroo court how to get him, and borisjohnson is doing the same - borisjohnson is doing the same over here _ borisjohnson is doing the same over here the _ borisjohnson is doing the same over here the truth — borisjohnson is doing the same over here. the truth is, _ borisjohnson is doing the same over here. the truth is, as— borisjohnson is doing the same over here. the truth is, as anyone who. here. the truth is, as anyone who has ever— here. the truth is, as anyone who has ever known _ here. the truth is, as anyone who has ever known boris _ here. the truth is, as anyone who has ever known boris johnson - here. the truth is, as anyone who has ever known boris johnson for| has ever known boris johnson for more _ has ever known boris johnson for more than — has ever known boris johnson for more than five _ has ever known boris johnson for more than five minutes - has ever known boris johnson for more than five minutes basicallyl more than five minutes basically knows, — more than five minutes basically knows, the _ more than five minutes basically knows, the guy— more than five minutes basically knows, the guy is— more than five minutes basically knows, the guy is a _ more than five minutes basically knows, the guy is a liar, - more than five minutes basically knows, the guy is a liar, he's - more than five minutes basically knows, the guy is a liar, he's a i knows, the guy is a liar, he's a charlatan, _ knows, the guy is a liar, he's a charlatan, he's _ knows, the guy is a liar, he's a charlatan, he's utterly- knows, the guy is a liar, he's a charlatan, he's utterly unfit - knows, the guy is a liar, he's a charlatan, he's utterly unfit for public — charlatan, he's utterly unfit for public office. _ charlatan, he's utterly unfit for public office, and _ charlatan, he's utterly unfit for public office, and he _ charlatan, he's utterly unfit for public office, and he always i charlatan, he's utterly unfit for. public office, and he always was. and all— public office, and he always was. and all the — public office, and he always was. and all the top _ public office, and he always was. and all the top and _ public office, and he always was. and all the top and tonight - public office, and he always was. and all the top and tonight is - public office, and he always was. i and all the top and tonight is that he's had — and all the top and tonight is that he's had to— and all the top and tonight is that he's had to face _ and all the top and tonight is that he's had to face that _ and all the top and tonight is that he's had to face that reality- and all the top and tonight is that he's had to face that reality but. and all the top and tonight is thatl he's had to face that reality but he can't _ he's had to face that reality but he can't face it — he's had to face that reality but he can't face it truthfully. _ he's had to face that reality but he can't face it truthfully. he has - he's had to face that reality but he can't face it truthfully. he has to l can't face it truthfully. he has to cast the — can't face it truthfully. he has to cast the blame _ can't face it truthfully. he has to cast the blame around, - can't face it truthfully. he has to cast the blame around, blame . can't face it truthfully. he has to - cast the blame around, blame harriet hartman. _ cast the blame around, blame harriet hartman. blame— cast the blame around, blame harriet hartman, blame sue _ cast the blame around, blame harriet hartman, blame sue gray, _ cast the blame around, blame harriet hartman, blame sue gray, blame - hartman, blame sue gray, blame anybody— hartman, blame sue gray, blame anybody on — hartman, blame sue gray, blame anybody on that _ hartman, blame sue gray, blame anybody on that committee - hartman, blame sue gray, blame anybody on that committee who i hartman, blame sue gray, blame. anybody on that committee who he claims _ anybody on that committee who he claims weren't—
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anybody on that committee who he claims weren't interested - anybody on that committee who he claims weren't interested in - anybody on that committee who he claims weren't interested in the - claims weren't interested in the truth _ claims weren't interested in the truth if— claims weren't interested in the truth if t — claims weren't interested in the truth. if i were _ claims weren't interested in the truth. if i were them, _ claims weren't interested in the truth. if i were them, i- claims weren't interested in the truth. if i were them, i know. truth. if i were them, i know that it's privileged _ truth. if i were them, i know that it's privileged what _ truth. if i were them, i know that it's privileged what comes - truth. if i were them, i know that it's privileged what comes out. truth. if i were them, i know that it's privileged what comes out of| it's privileged what comes out of parliament. _ it's privileged what comes out of parliament, but— it's privileged what comes out of parliament, but he _ it's privileged what comes out of parliament, but he is— it's privileged what comes out of parliament, but he is actually. parliament, but he is actually basically— parliament, but he is actually basically defamed _ parliament, but he is actually basically defamed his - parliament, but he is actually. basically defamed his colleagues tonight~ — basically defamed his colleagues tonight he— basically defamed his colleagues toniaht. ,,, , basically defamed his colleagues toniaht. , , , ., ., tonight. he says they still have not roduced tonight. he says they still have not produced a — tonight. he says they still have not produced a shred _ tonight. he says they still have not produced a shred of _ tonight. he says they still have not produced a shred of evidence - tonight. he says they still have not produced a shred of evidence thatl tonight. he says they still have not l produced a shred of evidence that he knowingly or recklessly misled the comments. he said i spoke in the comments, i said what i believed to sincerely be true.— sincerely be true. we've all seen what he said _ sincerely be true. we've all seen what he said in _ sincerely be true. we've all seen what he said in the _ sincerely be true. we've all seen what he said in the comments. l sincerely be true. we've all seen - what he said in the comments. we've all seen _ what he said in the comments. we've all seen the _ what he said in the comments. we've all seen the clips _ what he said in the comments. we've all seen the clips of— what he said in the comments. we've all seen the clips of other _ what he said in the comments. we've all seen the clips of other people - all seen the clips of other people speaking — all seen the clips of other people speaking look, _ all seen the clips of other people speaking. look, the _ all seen the clips of other people speaking. look, the guy- all seen the clips of other people speaking. look, the guy can - all seen the clips of other peoplel speaking. look, the guy can carry on. speaking. look, the guy can carry on dominic— speaking. look, the guy can carry on. dominic cummings, - speaking. look, the guy can carry on. dominic cummings, he - speaking. look, the guy can carry on. dominic cummings, he did i speaking. look, the guy can carry. on. dominic cummings, he did say, and i_ on. dominic cummings, he did say, and i think— on. dominic cummings, he did say, and i think he— on. dominic cummings, he did say, and i think he is— on. dominic cummings, he did say, and i think he is probably— on. dominic cummings, he did say, and i think he is probably right, - and i think he is probably right, that boris— and i think he is probably right, that borisjohnson— and i think he is probably right, that boris johnson live - and i think he is probably right, that borisjohnson live so - and i think he is probably right, that borisjohnson live so oftenj that borisjohnson live so often that borisjohnson live so often that he — that borisjohnson live so often that he doesn't— that borisjohnson live so often that he doesn't know— that borisjohnson live so often that he doesn't know when - that borisjohnson live so often| that he doesn't know when he's telling — that he doesn't know when he's telling the _ that he doesn't know when he's telling the truth _ that he doesn't know when he's telling the truth and _ that he doesn't know when he's telling the truth and one - that he doesn't know when he's telling the truth and one is - that he doesn't know when he's telling the truth and one is not. and i_ telling the truth and one is not. and i don't— telling the truth and one is not. and i don't think _ telling the truth and one is not. and i don't think there's - telling the truth and one is not. and i don't think there's a - telling the truth and one is not. l and i don't think there's a single person left— and i don't think there's a single person left in _ and i don't think there's a single person left in the _ and i don't think there's a single person left in the country- and i don't think there's a single person left in the country with l and i don't think there's a single i person left in the country with the possible _ person left in the country with the possible exception _ person left in the country with the possible exception with _ person left in the country with the possible exception with dorries i person left in the country with the i possible exception with dorries and the other— possible exception with dorries and the other people _ possible exception with dorries and the other people who _ possible exception with dorries and the other people who have - possible exception with dorries and the other people who have been i possible exception with dorries and i the other people who have been given honours. _ the other people who have been given honours. which — the other people who have been given honours, which by— the other people who have been given honours, which by the _ the other people who have been given honours, which by the way, _ the other people who have been given honours, which by the way, now, - the other people who have been given honours, which by the way, now, i- honours, which by the way, now, i think— honours, which by the way, now, i think should — honours, which by the way, now, i think should be _ honours, which by the way, now, i think should be rescinded. - honours, which by the way, now, i think should be rescinded. i- honours, which by the way, now, i think should be rescinded. ithinkl think should be rescinded. ithink rishi _ think should be rescinded. ithink rishi sunak— think should be rescinded. ithink rishi sunak and _ think should be rescinded. ithink rishi sunak and allowing - think should be rescinded. ithink rishi sunak and allowing this - think should be rescinded. ithink rishi sunak and allowing this list| rishi sunak and allowing this list to go— rishi sunak and allowing this list to go ahead _ rishi sunak and allowing this list to go ahead has _ rishi sunak and allowing this list to go ahead has put _ rishi sunak and allowing this list to go ahead has put king - rishi sunak and allowing this list to go ahead has put king charles rishi sunak and allowing this list - to go ahead has put king charles and a completely— to go ahead has put king charles and a completely and _
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to go ahead has put king charles and a completely and hideous _ to go ahead has put king charles and a completely and hideous position. l to go ahead has put king charles and a completely and hideous position. i| a completely and hideous position. i think they— a completely and hideous position. i think they should _ a completely and hideous position. i think they should be _ a completely and hideous position. i think they should be rescinded. - a completely and hideous position. i think they should be rescinded. i- think they should be rescinded. i think— think they should be rescinded. i think this — think they should be rescinded. i think this report _ think they should be rescinded. i think this report should - think they should be rescinded. i think this report should be - think they should be rescinded. i think this report should be that i think they should be rescinded. i. think this report should be that the final nail— think this report should be that the final nail in— think this report should be that the final nail in the _ think this report should be that the final nail in the coffin _ think this report should be that the final nail in the coffin of— think this report should be that the final nail in the coffin of boris - final nail in the coffin of boris johnson's _ final nail in the coffin of boris johnson's political— final nail in the coffin of boris johnson's political career, - final nail in the coffin of borisl johnson's political career, and final nail in the coffin of boris l johnson's political career, and i really— johnson's political career, and i really do — johnson's political career, and i really do hope _ johnson's political career, and i really do hope that _ johnson's political career, and i really do hope that this - johnson's political career, and i really do hope that this is - johnson's political career, and i really do hope that this is the l really do hope that this is the moment— really do hope that this is the moment in— really do hope that this is the moment in which _ really do hope that this is the moment in which the - really do hope that this is the moment in which the media, | really do hope that this is the - moment in which the media, who have been so _ moment in which the media, who have been so fundamental— moment in which the media, who have been so fundamental to _ moment in which the media, who have been so fundamental to boris - moment in which the media, who have been so fundamental to boris johnsonl been so fundamental to boris johnson surprise, _ been so fundamental to boris johnson surprise. beyond _ been so fundamental to boris johnson surprise. beyond a _ been so fundamental to boris johnson surprise, beyond a position— been so fundamental to boris johnson surprise, beyond a position he - surprise, beyond a position he should — surprise, beyond a position he should ever— surprise, beyond a position he should ever have _ surprise, beyond a position he should ever have held, - surprise, beyond a position hel should ever have held, actually surprise, beyond a position he - should ever have held, actually now start to _ should ever have held, actually now start to call — should ever have held, actually now start to call out _ should ever have held, actually now start to call out boris _ should ever have held, actually now start to call out boris johnson. - should ever have held, actually now start to call out boris johnson. and i start to call out borisjohnson. and frankly. _ start to call out borisjohnson. and frankly. the — start to call out borisjohnson. and frankly. the way— start to call out borisjohnson. and frankly, the way that _ start to call out borisjohnson. and frankly, the way that you _ start to call out borisjohnson. and frankly, the way that you call- start to call out borisjohnson. and frankly, the way that you call out . frankly, the way that you call out vladimir putin. _ frankly, the way that you call out vladimir putin. vladimir- frankly, the way that you call out vladimir putin. vladimir putin. frankly, the way that you call out vladimir putin. vladimir putin isi vladimir putin. vladimir putin is unknown — vladimir putin. vladimir putin is unknown and _ vladimir putin. vladimir putin is unknown and proven _ vladimir putin. vladimir putin is unknown and proven liar, - vladimir putin. vladimir putin is unknown and proven liar, and l vladimir putin. vladimir putin is- unknown and proven liar, and people can say— unknown and proven liar, and people can say that — unknown and proven liar, and people can say that on — unknown and proven liar, and people can say that on the _ unknown and proven liar, and people can say that on the bbc _ unknown and proven liar, and people can say that on the bbc and - unknown and proven liar, and people can say that on the bbc and skynet l can say that on the bbc and skynet and where — can say that on the bbc and skynet and where else. _ can say that on the bbc and skynet and where else. we _ can say that on the bbc and skynet and where else. we have _ can say that on the bbc and skynet and where else. we have to - can say that on the bbc and skynet and where else. we have to now. can say that on the bbc and skynetl and where else. we have to now say that about boris _ and where else. we have to now say that about boris johnson _ and where else. we have to now say that about boris johnson every - and where else. we have to now say that about boris johnson every time | that about boris johnson every time you guys— that about boris johnson every time you guys talk— that about boris johnson every time you guys talk about _ that about boris johnson every time you guys talk about them. - that about boris johnson every time you guys talk about them. what- that about boris johnson every time you guys talk about them. what about this oint? you guys talk about them. what about this point? doesn't _ you guys talk about them. what about this point? doesn't this _ you guys talk about them. what about this point? doesn't this make - you guys talk about them. what about this point? doesn't this make you - you guys talk about them. what about this point? doesn't this make you at l this point? doesn't this make you at all brittle, that he says he is forced out of parliament? i believe that sets a dangerous and unsettling precedent. isn't it for voters to decide, fundamentally? is there anything about that precedent that you think is uncomfortable? first of
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all to sa , you think is uncomfortable? first of all to say. he _ you think is uncomfortable? first of all to say, he was _ you think is uncomfortable? first of all to say, he was forced _ you think is uncomfortable? first of all to say, he was forced out - you think is uncomfortable? first of all to say, he was forced out of- all to say, he was forced out of downing — all to say, he was forced out of downing street _ all to say, he was forced out of downing street by— all to say, he was forced out of downing street by his- all to say, he was forced out of downing street by his own - downing street by his own colleagues _ downing street by his own colleagues. that's - downing street by his own colleagues. that's the - downing street by his own| colleagues. that's the first downing street by his own - colleagues. that's the first thing to say _ colleagues. that's the first thing to say the _ colleagues. that's the first thing to say. the second _ colleagues. that's the first thing to say. the second thing - colleagues. that's the first thing to say. the second thing to - colleagues. that's the first thing to say. the second thing to say. colleagues. that's the first thingl to say. the second thing to say is that he _ to say. the second thing to say is that he forced _ to say. the second thing to say is that he forced out _ to say. the second thing to say is that he forced out many- to say. the second thing to say is that he forced out many of- to say. the second thing to say is that he forced out many of his . to say. the second thing to say is. that he forced out many of his own colleagues — that he forced out many of his own colleagues by— that he forced out many of his own colleagues by expelling _ that he forced out many of his own colleagues by expelling them - that he forced out many of his own colleagues by expelling them from his party, — colleagues by expelling them from his party, because _ colleagues by expelling them from his party, because they— colleagues by expelling them from his party, because they didn't - colleagues by expelling them from | his party, because they didn't want to support — his party, because they didn't want to support the _ his party, because they didn't want to support the position _ his party, because they didn't want to support the position that - his party, because they didn't want to support the position that he - his party, because they didn't want to support the position that he was taking _ to support the position that he was taking at— to support the position that he was taking at the — to support the position that he was taking at the time _ to support the position that he was taking at the time on— to support the position that he was taking at the time on brexit. - to support the position that he was| taking at the time on brexit. added to which, _ taking at the time on brexit. added to which, he — taking at the time on brexit. added to which, he could _ taking at the time on brexit. added to which, he could have _ taking at the time on brexit. added to which, he could have stood. - taking at the time on brexit. added to which, he could have stood. he i to which, he could have stood. he could've _ to which, he could have stood. he could've stood _ to which, he could have stood. he could've stood in _ to which, he could have stood. he could've stood in parliament - to which, he could have stood. he could've stood in parliament and i could've stood in parliament and tried to — could've stood in parliament and tried to defend _ could've stood in parliament and tried to defend himself. - could've stood in parliament and tried to defend himself. he - could've stood in parliament and| tried to defend himself. he could have then, — tried to defend himself. he could have then, if— tried to defend himself. he could have then, if you _ tried to defend himself. he could have then, if you wanted - tried to defend himself. he could have then, if you wanted to, - tried to defend himself. he could have then, if you wanted to, try. tried to defend himself. he could. have then, if you wanted to, try to fight _ have then, if you wanted to, try to fight to— have then, if you wanted to, try to fight to save — have then, if you wanted to, try to fight to save his _ have then, if you wanted to, try to fight to save his seat _ have then, if you wanted to, try to fight to save his seat in uxbridge. i fight to save his seat in uxbridge. instead _ fight to save his seat in uxbridge. instead of— fight to save his seat in uxbridge. instead of which, _ fight to save his seat in uxbridge. instead of which, what _ fight to save his seat in uxbridge. instead of which, what he - fight to save his seat in uxbridge. instead of which, what he is - fight to save his seat in uxbridge.| instead of which, what he is doing is trying _ instead of which, what he is doing is trying to— instead of which, what he is doing is trying to create _ instead of which, what he is doing is trying to create the _ instead of which, what he is doing is trying to create the next - instead of which, what he is doing| is trying to create the next chapter of the _ is trying to create the next chapter of the boris — is trying to create the next chapter of the boris johnson _ is trying to create the next chapter of the borisjohnson narrative. - is trying to create the next chapterl of the borisjohnson narrative. with his friends— of the borisjohnson narrative. with his friends and _ of the borisjohnson narrative. with his friends and enablers _ of the borisjohnson narrative. with his friends and enablers in - of the borisjohnson narrative. with his friends and enablers in the - his friends and enablers in the media — his friends and enablers in the media i— his friends and enablers in the media hust— his friends and enablers in the media. ijust did _ his friends and enablers in the media. ijust did an— his friends and enablers in the media. ijust did an interviewl his friends and enablers in the l media. ijust did an interview on his friends and enablers in the - media. ijust did an interview on a different— media. ijust did an interview on a different channel where _ media. ijust did an interview on a different channel where i - media. ijust did an interview on a different channel where i kept- media. ijust did an interview on a . different channel where i kept being told the _ different channel where i kept being told the guy— different channel where i kept being told the guy is— different channel where i kept being told the guy is a _ different channel where i kept being told the guy is a proven _ different channel where i kept being told the guy is a proven winner- different channel where i kept being told the guy is a proven winner andl told the guy is a proven winner and that's— told the guy is a proven winner and that's why— told the guy is a proven winner and that's why were _ told the guy is a proven winner and that's why were also _ told the guy is a proven winner and that's why were also scared - told the guy is a proven winner and that's why were also scared of - that's why were also scared of him. the publics— that's why were also scared of him. the publics have _ that's why were also scared of him. the publics have had _ that's why were also scared of him. the publics have had it— that's why were also scared of him. the publics have had it with - that's why were also scared of him. the publics have had it with paros i the publics have had it with paros johnson — the publics have had it with paros johnson. apart— the publics have had it with paros johnson. apart from _ the publics have had it with paros johnson. apart from the - the publics have had it with paros johnson. apart from the small- the publics have had it with paros - johnson. apart from the small gaggle of people _ johnson. apart from the small gaggle of people around _ johnson. apart from the small gaggle of people around him, _ johnson. apart from the small gaggle of people around him, most- johnson. apart from the small gaggle of people around him, most of- johnson. apart from the small gaggle of people around him, most of whom| of people around him, most of whom seem _ of people around him, most of whom seem to _ of people around him, most of whom seem to be _ of people around him, most of whom seem to be heading _ of people around him, most of whom seem to be heading off— of people around him, most of whom seem to be heading off to _ of people around him, most of whom seem to be heading off to the - of people around him, most of whom seem to be heading off to the housel seem to be heading off to the house of lords _ seem to be heading off to the house of lords or— seem to be heading off to the house of lords or to — seem to be heading off to the house of lords or to go _ seem to be heading off to the house of lords or to go with _ seem to be heading off to the house of lords or to go with a _ seem to be heading off to the house of lords or to go with a little - of lords or to go with a little metal— of lords or to go with a little metal pin _ of lords or to go with a little metal pin on _ of lords or to go with a little metal pin on their— of lords or to go with a little metal pin on their chest, - of lords or to go with a little metal pin on their chest, he | metal pin on their chest, he has lost it —
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metal pin on their chest, he has lost it and _ metal pin on their chest, he has lost it. and he _ metal pin on their chest, he has lost it. and he can't— metal pin on their chest, he has lost it. and he can't face - metal pin on their chest, he has lost it. and he can't face that, l lost it. and he can't face that, because — lost it. and he can't face that, because the _ lost it. and he can't face that, because the guy, _ lost it. and he can't face that, because the guy, like - lost it. and he can't face that, because the guy, like drum, l lost it. and he can't face that, i because the guy, like drum, this lost it. and he can't face that, - because the guy, like drum, this is so trampy and _ because the guy, like drum, this is so trampy and what _ because the guy, like drum, this is so trampy and what we _ because the guy, like drum, this is so trampy and what we are - because the guy, like drum, this is so trampy and what we are seeingl so trampy and what we are seeing here he— so trampy and what we are seeing here he only— so trampy and what we are seeing here. he only thinks _ so trampy and what we are seeing here. he only thinks about - so trampy and what we are seeing here. he only thinks about his - so trampy and what we are seeingl here. he only thinks about his own interest _ here. he only thinks about his own interest that— here. he only thinks about his own interest. that has— here. he only thinks about his own interest. that has always - here. he only thinks about his own interest. that has always been - here. he only thinks about his own interest. that has always been thej interest. that has always been the case _ interest. that has always been the case whatever— interest. that has always been the case. whatever he _ interest. that has always been the case. whatever he has _ interest. that has always been the case. whatever he has done - interest. that has always been the case. whatever he has done as - interest. that has always been the case. whatever he has done as a l case. whatever he has done as a journalist, — case. whatever he has done as a journalist, a _ case. whatever he has done as a journalist, a politician, _ case. whatever he has done as a journalist, a politician, as- case. whatever he has done as a journalist, a politician, as the . journalist, a politician, as the mayor, — journalist, a politician, as the mayor, as— journalist, a politician, as the mayor. as an _ journalist, a politician, as the mayor, as an mp, _ journalist, a politician, as the mayor, as an mp, as - journalist, a politician, as the mayor, as an mp, as foreignl mayor, as an mp, as foreign secretary. — mayor, as an mp, as foreign secretary. as— mayor, as an mp, as foreign secretary, as prime - mayor, as an mp, as foreignl secretary, as prime minister. mayor, as an mp, as foreign- secretary, as prime minister. he has only lever— secretary, as prime minister. he has only [ever thought— secretary, as prime minister. he has only [ever thought about _ secretary, as prime minister. he has only [ever thought about his - secretary, as prime minister. he has only [ever thought about his own - only [ever thought about his own interest — only lever thought about his own interest i— only lever thought about his own interest. i think— only [ever thought about his own interest. i think the _ only lever thought about his own interest. i think the public- only [ever thought about his own interest. i think the public knowl interest. i think the public know that _ interest. i think the public know that most— interest. i think the public know that most of— interest. i think the public know that. most of them _ interest. i think the public know that. most of them do. - interest. i think the public know that. most of them do.- that. most of them do. alastair campbell. _ that. most of them do. alastair campbell. great _ that. most of them do. alastair campbell, great to _ that. most of them do. alastair campbell, great to have - that. most of them do. alastair campbell, great to have your i campbell, great to have your thoughts as always. i appreciate that. more reaction coming in. pretty patel, borisjohnson ally, of course. this is her tweet. so, our panel is still here, as you
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can see. are you sure, i want to come back to you. what do you make there of priti patel and the fact that that will be a common sentiment among plenty of borisjohnson supporters? among plenty of boris johnson supporters?— supporters? that's absolutely deluded. but _ supporters? that's absolutely deluded. but i _ supporters? that's absolutely deluded. but i think - supporters? that's absolutely deluded. but i think a - supporters? that's absolutely deluded. but i think a lot - supporters? that's absolutely deluded. but i think a lot of. deluded. but i think a lot of boris johnson supporters have been diluted this whole time. i speak to many, many conservative mps. really good conservative mps who are in politics for the right reasons. they are absolutely dismayed about what is happened to their party. i'm very much somebody who believes there should be two, three, four, strong political parties and democracy. it's healthy to have good opposition and good government. but boris johnson hasn't delivered good government. as alister campbell was saying, he wasn't driven that politics by a witch hunt from other people. it was entirely his own making. and remember, the reason why so many of his own side turned on
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him, it was coming up to this anniversary of it. remember, this time last year, he was still prime minister. we have had three prime ministers and 12 months, if you include the letters, i guess. but basically, he ended up, his own demise was the chris pincher scandal which again wasjust demise was the chris pincher scandal which again was just more cover—up. the patterson affair which was mishandled. he had partygate which was mishandled. then he has to chris pincher which involve allegations of sexual assault. and for that, that was a line that many of his colleagues just said was a line that many of his colleaguesjust said ok, he's gone too far now. so the idea that priti patel and dean dorries will be weeping tonight, saying he's the greatest leader we ever had, no. he was absolutely appalling for this country. if you look at the decline that has happened in this country, take away the westminster bubble that we might be talking about. if
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you actually look at how peoples lives have been affected by things that he had a big hand and like brexit, for example. like the pandemic and the fallout from the pandemic. people's lives have been really affected by his scandalous mismanagement of government. serra; mismanagement of government. sorry to 'um in mismanagement of government. sorry to jump in just — mismanagement of government. sorry to jump in just they — mismanagement of government. sorry to jump in just they are. _ mismanagement of government. sorry tojump injust they are. we are to jump in just they are. we are coming tojump injust they are. we are coming up to jump in just they are. we are coming up towards the end of our coverage. professorjohn curtis, i just want to come back to you and this reflection that some have been putting forward, that there now may usherin putting forward, that there now may usher in a quieter period in uk politics. do you think that's true? i think it is truth, ever since rishi sunak became prime minister. i think one of the big debates we have been having this evening is whether or not the possibility of mr johnson's resignation fuelling further warfare inside the conservative party, whether that
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risk is or is not greater than the potential benefit to rishi sunak, that mrjohnson is no longer around westminster to cause trouble. the fact that in the end, what rishi sunak is about as prime minister is he is indeed, one of his principal jobs is to try to draw a line in the minds of the electorate between his primary ship and that if his two previous sessions. by the time of the next election, he's going to have to persuade the electorate to try to forget mrjohnson, to forget mistrust, to look at what he has managed to achieve as prime minister, will that appears to be an 18 month's time. as a result, he can reverse his parties electoral differences. i suspect the opposition party realise that as well. ., , ,., opposition party realise that as well. ., , g ., , well. 0k, professorjohn curtis, thank you _ well. ok, professorjohn curtis, thank you for— well. 0k, professorjohn curtis, thank you for that, _ well. 0k, professorjohn curtis, thank you for that, and - well. 0k, professorjohn curtis, thank you for that, and for - well. 0k, professorjohn curtis, thank you for that, and for the i well. 0k, professorjohn curtis, i thank you for that, and for the rest of our panel ourtime thank you for that, and for the rest of our panel our time is up. but we really appreciate all four of you coming on and giving her
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perspectives. thanks for that. just in the last 60 seconds or so, i want to cross to christopher ho, who are if you are watching right at the beginning of our coverage, christopher, we haven't long left, so just bring us up—to—date. christopher, we haven't long left, so just bring us up-to-date. lewis, we are getting _ so just bring us up-to-date. lewis, we are getting lots _ so just bring us up-to-date. lewis, we are getting lots of _ so just bring us up-to-date. lewis, we are getting lots of loyalty - so just bring us up-to-date. lewis, we are getting lots of loyalty to - we are getting lots of loyalty to boris _ we are getting lots of loyalty to borisjohnson. almost giving an epitaph — borisjohnson. almost giving an epitaph. you'll recognise the great work that— epitaph. you'll recognise the great work that boris did. he was greatly divisive _ work that boris did. he was greatly divisive but — work that boris did. he was greatly divisive but he was a figure who made _ divisive but he was a figure who made history, he's not a loser. he is never lost — made history, he's not a loser. he is never lost an election. he is someone _ is never lost an election. he is someone who also the general election. — someone who also the general election, i think he is someone who is feeling. _ election, i think he is someone who is feeling, i'm going to go on my own terms.. _ is feeling, i'm going to go on my own terms,, the minnows are not going _ own terms,, the minnows are not going to _ own terms,, the minnows are not going to win, is how he described it. y , , ., going to win, is how he described it. just your whatsapp. people are been very interested _ it. just your whatsapp. people are been very interested in _ it. just your whatsapp. people are been very interested in your- been very interested in your whatsapp messages over the last hour. what is the sentiment of the
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kind of messages you been getting there? if) kind of messages you been getting there? :: ., ., ., there? 20 are meeting tonight and there? 20 are meeting tonight and the are there? 20 are meeting tonight and they are sending _ there? 20 are meeting tonight and they are sending messages - there? 20 are meeting tonight and they are sending messages of- there? 20 are meeting tonight and they are sending messages of love j they are sending messages of love who they— they are sending messages of love who they think might be the next to id who they think might be the next to go and _ who they think might be the next to go and not — who they think might be the next to go and not where these rumours are coming _ go and not where these rumours are coming from. i think it will be extraordinary in the house of commons, borisjohnson will extraordinary in the house of commons, boris johnson will be leaving. — commons, boris johnson will be leaving, he will be a prince over the water for the tory party for many— the water for the tory party for many years to come. he's gone for now: _ many years to come. he's gone for now. but— many years to come. he's gone for now. butjust— many years to come. he's gone for now, butjust for many years to come. he's gone for now, but just for now. many years to come. he's gone for now, butjust for now.— now, but 'ust for now. christopher ho e, now, butjust for now. christopher hope. thank _ now, butjust for now. christopher hope. thank you — now, butjust for now. christopher hope, thank you so _ now, butjust for now. christopher hope, thank you so much - now, butjust for now. christopher hope, thank you so much for- now, butjust for now. christopher hope, thank you so much for your| hope, thank you so much for your contributions, and to the rest of my guests and panel on what has been an extraordinary couple of hours. boris johnson has resigned as an mp. plenty more coverage continuing here on bbc news. and of course, on the website and on the app. for the moment, though, this is bbc news.
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hello there. it's been the hottest day of the year so far with highs hitting 28.8 in porthmadog in northwest wales. we also had temperatures into the high 20s across southern england. it's set to get even hotter, though, with temperatures up to 30 degrees this weekend. how unusual is that? well, not very. we get 30 degrees or more everyjune. many of us look forward to these hot spells of weather, some of us really hate the heat. but for one or two people with underlying health conditions, the heat can cause a few problems, and for that reason, a heat health alert has been issued. however, the next few days, as well as the hot weather, we're going to see some thunderstorms, and you need the right combination of temperature and humidity to make storms. i think it's humidity that's really going to be key, how much moisture there is in the atmosphere. now, overnight tonight, it is a largely dry picture — a little bit of that low cloud coming back in across northeast scotland, northeastern parts of england as well. here, it'll be quite cool, but otherwise, temperatures 13 or 1a for cardiff and for london for an overnight low. tomorrow, it's a hot and sunny day for the vast majority of the uk,
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and for many of us, it will stay dry. you can kind of see the winds bashing together across wales and southwest england. that willjust push up the amounts of moisture there is in the atmosphere across this part of the world, and it's that that's really important, i think, for making some big, thundery downpours. one or two of those could be torrential, bringing flash flooding. but for many of us, it's a dry day, it's hot and it's sunny, with temperatures peaking up to 30 degrees. and it will stay very warm overnight as well at bedtime, temperatures still up into the 20s for some. 0n into sunday's forecast — this time, the greatest supply of moisture where the winds are brushing together is more across parts of scotland, northern ireland, wales and western england. notice the winds coming in from the east or southeast — that's slightly drier air that's affecting parts of eastern england. so, there's not so many showers and thunderstorms there. another hot day, though, for the vast majority heading into monday, again, the storms are tending to be biased towards western areas of the uk. that drier air working in across eastern areas of england means there will be fewer showers, even though we'll have some of the highest temperatures in eastern areas. beyond that, humidity will tend
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to drop, and as well as that, high pressure will start to move back in. and so, from tuesday onwards, really, we're looking at an extended spell of dry and sunny weather.
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tonight at ten... we bring you two major stories from the us and from here — borisjohnson has, at least for now, called a halt to his political career.

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