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for allegedly mishandling classified documents at his estate. and another former leader in hot water: former uk prime minister borisjohnson resigning as an mp after being told he'd be sanctioned for misleading parliment. plus, our exclusive interview with a russian military defector, and his claims that many russian troops are sceptical about the war in ukraine. translation: in the military no-one believes the - authorities, they can see what is really happening. they are not some civilians in front of the telly. hello, i'm helena humphrey, glad you could join me. we begin tonight in the us, where former president donald trump is due to appear in a miami courtroom on tuesday. he's facing 37 criminal charges related to the mishandling
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of classified documents, making him the first former president in history to face federal charges. on friday afternoon, authorities unsealed the charges against donald trump, which include conspiracy to obstructjustice and retaining classified government material. the indictment itself includes these photographs, showing documents stored throughout his mar—a—lago estate in florida. you can see boxes in various states — in closets, a bathroom and even onstage in his ballroom. the documents contained sensitive information on foreign countries�* defence capabilities and weaknesses as well as the us nuclear programme. the indictment, which also charges a trump aide, lays out other other evidence in the form of text messages, testimony from former trump employees, and lawyers. let's break down what the charges entail. today's indictment is for 37 counts involving classified documents. it alleges he kept the files at his florida estate
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and lied to investigators. trump is also accused of obstructing the investigation into the handling of the documents. he has denied any wrongdoing. one of trump's personal aides, walt nauta, is also facing charges, accused of moving files to hide them from the fbi. the a9—page indictment says the classified documents contained information about us nuclear programmes, defence and weapons capabilities of the us and foreign countries, potential vulnerabilities of the us and its allies, and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack. on friday, special prosecutorjack smith gave a press conference justifying his reasoning for bringing the charges against trump. our laws, that protect national defence information are critical for the safety and security of the united states and they must be enforced. violations of those laws put our country at risk. adherence to the rule of law is a bedrock
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principle of the department ofjustice, and our nation's commitment to the rule of law sets an example for the world. we have one set of laws in this country, and they apply to everyone. if found guilty, donald trump potentially faces years in prison. he's currently the frontrunner for the 2024 republican presidential nomination, and says he's innocent. this was his reaction when the indictment was first announced on thursday. it's called election interference. there trying to destroy our reputation so they can win an election. that's just as bad as doing any of the other things that have been done over the last number of years and especially during the 2020 election, so i just want to tell you — i am an innocent man, i did nothing wrong and will fight this outjust like we have been fighting for seven yea rs. our north america correspondent nomia iqbal has the latest from miami. prosecutors want donald trump to face a jury here in florida
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where the alleged crimes took place. this is a republican—leaning state — remember, trump won it twice in 2016 and 2020, and when i went around to speak to people at a country club, there was quite a mixed reaction. one man who said to me that there is no smoke without fire, that donald trump should be prosecuted, and anybody else would face the same. another man said to me that he was sceptical about the whole investigation, he felt it was a witch—hunt, that is constantly claimed by donald trump. donald trump will appear in the courthouse behind me next tuesday amid tight security, he will enter the courtroom and he will hear a judge lay out the charges and he will enter a plea. we heard from the special counseljack smith who has said that he expects a trial to be held pretty quickly. this indictment only adds to the legal difficulties the former president is facing. here's a reminder of those:
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first, a separate trial that is due in new york in march. he's accused of paying hush money to the former adult film performer stormy daniels and falsifying business records. he is also under investigation for his role in the attack on the us capitol by his supporters in 2020, when he falsely claimed he'd won re—election. mr trump may also have to answer claims that he tried to overturn the election result in the state of georgia in his attempt to remain in power. earlier, i spoke with frank luntz, one of the foremost experts on american voters and the republican electorate. i'm sure that you have also been combing through this indictment like all of us — the first time that a former president has been indicted on federal charges. what position do you think this puts donald trump in politically? we have been studying donald trump since before he announced and over the years, i have been surprised — significantly surprised — that his own voters don't seem to care. whatever charge, whatever challenge, whatever accusation, they are prepared to brush it off.
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and those charges and accusations are getting bigger and biggerand more and more significant, and yet it doesn't matter. in fact, when the polling is done over the next 48 hours, i believe you will see absolutely no impact on donald trump's core support, no impact on whether or not they want him to be the republican nominee for president because, in three words, they don't care. crosstalk. sorry, frank, what about the general electorate? that is so significant because we have never had anyone like this. he likes to say that this is a witch—hunt, that he is being condemned and criticised and how unfair this is. the amazing thing is he has never admitted a mistake. he has never acknowledged that he did anything wrong, ever — and i say this, it is 1:21am here and still, this is so significant because it is
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having an impact on notjust what americans think of their electoral system and judicial system of what's happening in politics in america, this is a global phenomenon where the world is watching. i'm so glad that this is being done by the bbc. make no mistake — the world is watching what is happening here and they are stunned at the former president's behaviour and at the behaviour of the electorate. this seems to have absolutely no impact. sorry. frank, do you think this then strengthens any potential republican candidate — ron desantis, for example, he's long maintained he shares trump's policies but doesn't come with the same baggage. and yet, he is unwilling to challenge the former president. he is unwilling to — to, i guess, to hold him accountable. that is something that republican voters used to care about.
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accountability was one of the highest values in a republican. equality for democrats, accountability for republicans. and so, the question now is does somebody like a chris christie come through? because he is prepared to challenge the former president directly. i don't know. crosstalk. what i do know is that our system is broken. our system does not advocate for or encourage the truth, and there's going to be serious political and cultural damage as a result. i want to talk about support from within the republican party. kevin mccarthy yesterday calling this a dark day for the nation. mike pence speaking earlier — let's take a listen to what he had to say. it's notjust a sad day but it's a troubling day for millions of americans, and it invites a divisiveness in this country that can only be answered with facts. i believe the leaders of this
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country and our party and those of us who aspire to lead would do well to remember first principles. first, let me be clear — no—one is above the law. you heard it there — no—one is above the law. what do you make of that? could there be cracks at some point, could the tide start to turn? every time we've said this over the last seven years, every single time, it has not happened. so many people, including myself, have declared donald trump politically dead and we have been proven otherwise by his own supporters. and make no mistake — those supporters don't care. no matter what you show them, no matter what you tell them, no matter what the evidence or the facts or the truth is, there's still 40% of republicans who believe that the election in 2020 was won by donald trump, still. there is 30% of the republicans and perhaps as high as 40% that
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absolutely, positively want him back. i want to emphasise to viewers, when the truth doesn't matter, when the facts don't matter, when they will trust what they hear from one individual... frank... ..that�*s the danger to the core democratic principles, or as mike pence says, "first principles". frank, i do have to ask you — do you think ultimately this hurts or helps trump win back the white house? it certainly helps him get the republican nomination because not only does he say he's a victim, he's now saying he is being persecuted and so, republicans will rally around him. the problem is the biden administration has no credibility among these people because they feel that it is all political. that's it's all partisan, rather than being judicial and focus on the facts. frank luntz, thank you so much for coming on the programme. good to talk to you. now to the uk, and former prime minister borisjohnson�*s
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resignation as an mp. mrjohnson announced his resignation ahead of the release of a report into whether he misled the british parliament over parties held in downing street during the covid—i9 lockdown. our political correspondent ione wells has the latest. his own conduct made him resign as prime minister. it's his own conduct making him now resign as an mp. ..of the parliamentary conservative party... borisjohnson was being investigated by parliament's privileges committee into whether he misled mps about covid lockdown parties in downing street. he faced a possible suspension and even by—election if they found him guilty. in a bombshell statement tonight, he wrote... he continues to maintain his innocence, saying...
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but he adds, he will stand down as an mp immediately and trigger a by—election in his seat, saying: i don't know all about this soap opera. what i do know about is people are completely fed up about this roller—coaster of chaos and incompetence that they've been witnessing. they will get a chance in the near future to be able to express themselves, and i'm quite sure that they will be showing just how disgusted they are with all of this. his resignation, a final punishment after a series of scandals. hours after releasing his resignation honours list, a final reward for many of those implicated. loyal defenders like his former ministers priti patel and jacob rees—mogg, his spokesmen past and present, jack doyle who resigned amid partygate fallout, gito harry, who resigned with borisjohnson, his current spokesman ross kempsell. some close aides — martin reynolds who resigned after inviting a host of people to drinks in the downing street
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garden during covid, david canzini, who he appointed to restore his battered reputation. all of the 38 people to receive honours, and seven people to receive peerages, are connected to borisjohnson. a notable absence though for one of his closest allies, nadine dorries. the former culture secretary said she'd been on the list, but believed her name was sent back to the committee that vets appointments. she also resigned tonight, triggering another by—election. one of the reasons i've hung on was i did think to myself wouldn't itjust be amazing, because what it says to everybody from my background is you could do that too, you could be a peer in the house of lords, but i don't think it was to be. borisjohnson was a prime minister forced out by his own mps over his standards in public life. he was being investigated into whether he misled parliament. none of these things stopped him rewarding his friends, allies, cheerleaders
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and apologists, in one big — but i hesitate to say final — scandal. while it's borisjohnson�*s leadership that is firmly under the spotlight tonight, today's events pose a tricky test for rishi sunak too. two difficult by—elections now coming down the road. ione wells, bbc news, at westminster. mrjohnson�*s resignation comes amid political turmoil with the tory party. earlier, my colleague sumi somaskanda spoke aboutjohnson�*s resignation with henry hill, deputy editor of conservativehome, a news outlet focused on the conservative party in the uk. henry, good evening to you, so why did borisjohnson decide to take this move now? so, basically, borisjohnson has been under investigation by a committee of the members of parliament, our legislators about the allegations that he misled the house of commons over his knowledge of conduct during the pandemic, when he and his team and his staff were found to have been breaking lockdown rules. now apparently he's seen their recommendations —
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their recommendations we therefore assume mean he would be suspended from parliament for more than ten days, creating a mechanism for him to have to face a by—election, a special election in his seat, and that would've been very hard for him to win. so he's instead gone out, sort of, on his own terms. as you said, this would trigger a by—election — would this be a seat labour would be targeting? potentially yes. the government are a very long way behind in the polls and it's a london seat — london has trended away from the conservatives fora long time, and in a by—election, an opposition party can throw all of their resources at a seat, so yeah, labour or the liberal democrats — the other centre—left party in this country — could definitely be in with a shot. they would have to see which party would be in it to win it. weirdly, the polling suggested johnson's polling from last week said he could still be in with a shot. his constituents, whatever they think of him personally, like that idea of having someone that big putting
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their place on the map, but he's decided he doesn't want to have that fight. henry, what's the reaction been tonight in the conservative party? so, borisjohnson has his hardcore supporters and they're all trying to rally round him. nadine dorries, another one of his most loyal mps, also resigned today as an mp, so that'll be a tricky by—election for the conservatives. but ultimately, the problem for boris is there are relatively few of those hardcore loyalists left, and without him in parliament, there's be fewer people for them to rally round, because now even if rishi sunak, the prime minister, does have an utterly awful year, boris won't be there in parliament. he won't be the prince over the water, the heir apparent. so for rishi sunak, in the medium term, it'll be a net gain for him in terms of the stability of his administration. do you think rishi sunak�*s government could come under pressure? not really because of this. the timing is excruciating because rishi sunak today indicated he would sign off on borisjohnson getting
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a resignation honours list — a tradition whereby outgoing prime ministers get to nominate people for peerages and knighthoods, and that was already controversial. now, he'll have to deal with that story even as borisjohnson quits parliament. but in a parliamentary system, the challenger must be there in the room and if johnson has stepped out of parliament, which he has, he won't be there to even potentially be able to stage a parliamentary putsch ahead of the general election. henry, how big of a gamble is this by borisjohnson? put this into context for us. it really depends on what he's trying to achieve. basically by stepping down, boris is free to make a lot of money, which he's very good at. he is very in demand. he's calculated that losing that by—election would've damaged his earning potential, also allegedly one of the reasons he didn't go for the conservative leadership last autumn. he will now be free to return to journalism, that's where he made his name. he can go back to his stent on the daily telegraph, one of our right—wing newspapers. maybe even get a television show — quite a few conservative mps now have tv
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shows on our right—wing networks. there's all kinds of ways he can continue to be involved, like what nigel farage did. he was one of the heads of the uk independence party, one of the parties that pushed for brexit. he now has a tv show of his own, and he's talking about coming back. so, there are ways he can stay involved and come back at a later date, but if he had any ambitions about retaking the leadership before the election or immediately after, because there's no way the conservatives will let him stand as a candidate in 2024, he has set those aside. last question — this is all due to this commons report and they've said this will be released shortly. what will you be looking for in this report? i think what we will have to see is the justification for the ten days. so, the way this works is parliament is self—policing because mps are representatives, so this is a cross party panel of mps chaired bya labour mp but with plenty of conservatives on it and they'll be making recommendations to the house of commons, who will then vote on whether or not to accept those recommendations. what's significant is if an mp is suspended for ten days or more, that triggers mechanisms by which they can be recalled by their constituents — which is not normally allowed
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in the system. so, if they recommended a sanction that allows for him to be suspended, it'll be interesting to see them explain why that is. really interesting. great to talk to you, henry. thanks for your insights tonight. thank you. in an exclusive interview, a fugitive russian air force pilot has told the bbc that many serving in the russian military are sceptical about the war in ukraine. dmitry mishov escaped from russia to lithuania on foot across the border. he has now handed himself to lithuanian authorities, hoping to get political asylum. during the course of the war, he flew helicopters — not in ukraine, but in russia and belarus. translation: i am mishov, dmitry. - rank — lieutenant. my position was military helicopter pilot, assistant commander. later, i became an attack helicopter navigator. i'm a military officer. my duty is to protect my
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country from aggression. i don't have to become an accomplice in a crime. if we compare this to the war in afghanistan in the 1980s, the soviet union lost 333 helicopters there. i believe we've experienced the same losses in one year. in the military, no—one believes the authorities. they can see what is really happening. they are not some civilians in front of the telly. the military do not believe official reports because they are simply not true. hundreds of children caught up in the war in sudan have been rescued in a daring and dangerous evacuation as fighting in the country continues. around 300 children and babies were successfully ta ken from the mygoma orphanage in the capital khartoum to wad madani, in the south of sudan. barbara plett usher reports. a dangerous journey carrying precious cargo — nearly 300 children evacuated
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from an orphanage in the war zone, more than half of them under the age of two. getting them out of khartoum was complicated because the fighting is still going on, but the convoy was given safe passage through multiple checkpoints. it was really heartbreaking to see all these children, some of them having mental health conditions, some other health conditions, to be there in the midst of conflict. in khartoum, the babies were forced to leave their beds. they had to be moved because the orphanage was caught in crossfire. they were short of food. it was very hot. most of the staff couldn't make it to work. 67 children died here after the conflict began. separately, clearly marked buses had already evacuated dozens of older orphans to a different location.
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organised by local activists, they found refuge in the yard of a government building. only enough food for one day's meals at a time. they are appealing for support. translation: one of i the neighbours asked me what we need. she said she did not have anything to offer but she will have. —— but she will help. in the midst of this horrible war, the story the babies is a glimmer of hope. how did you feel when you heard that the convoy had arrived safely? i can't describe it. for the whole team, it was really... um, incredibly... ..a huge relief. a huge, huge relief. it brought a bright ray of light to all of us. they're looking for foster homes in safer parts of the country. but 13 million children in sudan still need life—saving support and a lasting ceasefire in order to get it. barbara plett usher, bbc news, nairobi.
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to colombia, where four children have been found alive 40 days after their plane crashed in the country's amazonjungle. the four children were the only survivors when the plane went down in south—west colombia in may. officials don't know how the children survived for over a month but the children belong to a local indigenous group. community members had hoped that their knowledge of fruits and jungle survival skills would give them a better chance of staying alive. the four children have since been reunited with their grandparents and are receiving medical treatment at a nearby hospital. now then, bagpipes aren't for everyone. they can bring a tear to the eye at funerals ora ringing in the ears elsewhere. we'd like to introduce you to the man who holds the record for having the largest collection of bagpipes in the world. his name is daniel fleming, and he hopes to beat his own record by doubling his collection. crispin rolfe has his story. bagpipes skirl
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my first set of bagpipes were bought by my late father, and it's actually this set here. the first of many. ten years ago, daniel fleming created a record for the most amount of bagpipes anyone could own — of 105. now this year, he hopes to double that, having increased his collection to 210. bad news for the neighbours. i have got wonderful neighbours and it's wonderful that they applaud me at three o'clock in the morning when i'm finishing playing. i'm not sure what they're shouting. i think it's probably "more". i hope it's "more". and then, there's danny's long—suffering wife, jane. there you go. bye — bye. thanks, bye. he didn't have that many when i first met him. he does do lots of practising and it's not too bad, but you can't really hear it. if he's in the front of the house, i'm in the back of the house with the radio on.
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i don't know whether someone has 105 — or, indeed, 106 sets — hence why i have still kept collecting. so, i sincerely that hope no—one has more than 210. i very much doubt it. and if they do, who'd want to be there neighbours? for now, though, danny has got to wait for the guinness book of records to verify his claim but the chances are he's going to be a world record breaker again. bagpipes skirl crispin rolfe, bbc north, in cleethorpes. —— crispin rolfe, bbc look north, in cleethorpes. stay with us here on bbc news. it's goodnight from us in washington but good morning from london, where our colleagues take over. thanks for your company. i will see you soon. hello. it's going to be a hot weekend for some of us as temperatures are expected to reach 30
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degrees celsius in some towns and cities — and we almost reached 30 degrees in northern parts of wales on friday — but it's not unusual to get these sort of temperatures injune. in fact, if you look at the past years, we've regularly approached the low to even mid 30s. so, where's this hot weather coming from? as you might expect from the southern climes. notjust quite hot air but also humid air, and we'll notice the humidity rising as we go through the course of the weekend — some really balmy nights on the way. so, the forecast for the early morning on saturday — some cloudier skies in the north—east, a few showers in the south—west but elsewhere, a lot of clear, sunny weather to start the day. temperatures around 15 degrees in plymouth. so, the forecast, then, for the morning shows lots of sunshine. perhaps those few showers lingering there in the south—west. but through the morning into the afternoon, shower clouds will start building across parts of wales and central england. here's a close—up of the midlands. here's birmingham. we could see some nasty
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downpours in places with hail and thunder and gusty winds but in between, large gaps of sunny weather, so it's going to be very difficult to forecast exactly where these showers are going to occur but we're sure of the area, and this is the area here. but elsewhere, a lot of sunshine on the way and those temperatures rocketing to about 30 degrees, i think, in the hottest spots but around coastal areas, we're talking more like the low 20s. and that really balmy night's to come on saturday night — in fact, at 10pm, temperatures in some towns and cities will still be hovering around 20 degrees celsius. here's the forecast for sunday. again, a lot of sunshine around, very warm, very humid, but i think a greater chance of catching some showers and thunderstorms across many western parts of the uk. and remember — hail, thunder and gusty winds and then, it's back to sunshine again, so a bit ofa mixed bag in some areas. the temperatures should reach the high 20s but again, in some coastal areas, we're talking about the low 20s, so really quite fresh. and the outlook for the week ahead shows the warm weather
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