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by an electrical fault. a senior british government minister says the country has moved on from borisjohnson — and nobody wants to return to the drama surrounding his time in downing street. grant shapps said there was no chance his former boss would come back to westminster — as had been speculated. the manchester city squad are beginning theirjourney back to the uk — with the european cup in their hand luggage. they beat inter milan 1—0 in the champions league final in istanbul — becoming only the second english team to win the league, cup and european treble. now on bbc news, it's time for click.
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this week, we're taking a deep dive into artificial intelligence, and how it's transforming the world around us. yeah, that includes in healthcare, where we meet the ai helping radiologists to diagnose cancer. you can see these little white dots. the ai is highly suspicious. and in the fast moving game of ai artwork, who owns what? and can artists protect their work? for some time artificial intelligence has been all around us. you might not have noticed it, but your video streaming services, social media feeds, the maps on your smart phones, they've all been steadily improving their performance because the computers behind them have been learning.
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and then last year, something important happened. yeah. ai got human — or at least it felt like it did. companies like google and open ai started showing off stunning photorealistic images like these, all created by ai from short text descriptions. and then ai started having conversations with us. they were starting to generate stuff that felt human. this field of generative ai seems to have exploded so quickly. chat gtp is the single fastest—growing application in human history. and it keeps getting better. the latest version, gpt�*i, even seems to be able to look at a picture and work out what would happen next. and just look at what the latest ai image generators can do.
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notjust still pictures, but remarkably good videos as well. this short film was created by one user simply by typing carefully worded text descriptions into his phone. i think the reason many people are now paying attention to ai is that it's finally behaving like the ai we were promised in the movies — computers that we can chat to and that are doing humanlike things. and that's why it has created a really emotive response in a way that none of the ai built into the device all around us ever managed to. and that's where the danger lies, because if it behaves like a human, it's reasonable to assume that it thinks likea human. but it doesn't. you know those predictive text functions on your phone? well these try to guess the most likely next word in the sentence based on what you have typed so far. and in really simple terms, that is what these chatbots are doing.
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they have read millions and billions of sentences online and they have learned what a good sentence looks like — that's why they sound so human, the sentence structure is really good, but there is no guarantee that they will get the facts right, because they don't understand what they are saying. and image generators don't understand what they are drawing. for example, microsoft's bing app now uses the dali image generator. i asked to draw me my initial made of liquid metal and it made this. pretty decent. it then said would you like me to add some sparks to it, and i said why not, and it turned it into this. imean... where did the 5 go? the reason is it doesn't know what a letter 5 is. it doesn't think like a human, it doesn't understand anything. but ai generators like mid journey can do wonderful
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and weird things. and that's the main weakness here and why we can't trust it. if ai can create anything, then how do we know what's real? i don't think the pope ever went out dressed like this. but if we use it wisely, there is immense possibility. it can crunch data like no human can, and never has that been more important than in healthcare, as mark cieslak has been finding out. june works as a healthcare assistant. she knows how important breast cancer screening is. i see you've had previous surgery before? yeah that's clear. today, june is having a low level x—ray, or mamogram, performed. it's part of a local breast—screening programme called emini. so we are running this ai as well to see whether it is able to pick up cancer as well as humans can,
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and we see these little white dots that the ai is slightly suspicious. we would want to do a biopsy on that recommended, especially because you have had a previous history of it. a biopsy will be performed, removing a small sample of body tissue and sending it for further tests. here at aberdeen royal infirmary, june's scan has been reviewed by ai software as well as human clinicians. dr gerald lipp demonstrates the process using anonymized scans. so what we see here now, we have a lady who has mammograms on her left side and right side, you are looking for differences. there is a lesion in the left breast here, and of course this is something you would expect a human being. you can just tell there is something different in the pictures there, and if you click on this ai button, it circles an area to check. but the main area of most concern is this area circled
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here, where the cancer is on the left side. in screening, you want to pick up things that are small before they become big. programmes like this one identify breast cancer in roughly 6 in 1000 women. radiologists, known as readers, examine patient scans for signs of cancer. on average, these human readers scrutinise 5,000 mammograms a year. 250—300 patients will be called back, and 30—a0 of those will require closer attention. and there is a chance that with that number you could miss cancers. within the rules that national screening council have given us, we are not allowed to use the ai automatically as part of the process as yet, so we are using the ai as an extra check at the end of our reading process. in 2016, a private company, keyron medical technologies, began training an ai model called nia using hundreds of thousands of medical scans. itsjob — to identify
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breast cancer. until now, this ai has been intended as an assistive tool for use by two human radiologists. it has become the foundation of the technology being used in aberdeen. the health service is experiencing massive staff shortages. experimentation with al could relieve some of that pressure. the first clinical evaluation of its kind is being carried out here. 0rdinarily, two human radiologists would examine every scan, looking for conditions like breast cancer. but could the technology being tested here one day replace one of those human medical staff with an ai? i think the goal of this evaluation is to see what's the best way we can work with al where there is replacing one of the radiologists, where there is part reading some of the normal mamograms, or where there is to improve our cancer detection as a safety net. this project is a collaboration between the nhs, the university of aberdeen and private
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companies — microsoft providing cloud computing, and the ai model developed by keyron. the next step of the partnership is that we are taking our ai across the uk to over 30 nhs trusts, to over one million women to gain access to the ai screening. it has been a few weeks sincejune�*s biopsy, and i caught up with her via videocall. i wondered how she felt about an ai assisting in such sensitive work. your images are on—screen and people are looking at them, whereas when it's an artificial intelligence, that feeling that somebody is looking in on has gone. the biopsy showed that i do have an early—stage cancer, we certainly caught it at an earlier stage this time, but because i have had previous history with it, i'm going to go in and have a mastectomy, it's not the treatment i want to have, but at the same time
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it is reassuring that it has been caught. screening programmes are crucial for improving patient outcomes. for now, medical staff are still the first line of defence in protecting against breast cancer, but ai is likely to play a significant role in future life—saving efforts. that was mark showing us how ai in healthcare can be really useful. but on the flipside, when it comes to ai being used to generate things like art, it can be problematic. yeah one of the big issues being copywrite. i mean, who should own the images that al creates? it's something that ben derico has been investigating. ai art has taken a massive leap recently. i mean this one sold for over $400,000 at auction at christie's in 2018. with image generators like dali, stable diffusion, almost anyone can create a new
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art in a matter of seconds. but the models that makes this art don'tjust do it out of thin air. they have learnt to mimic styles, even specific artists, through a process called training, where the models injest millions, sometimes billions of images, scraped from websites all around the web. combined with text describing the images, they now have a data set that let's them create almost any type of image from a simple text prompt. it produces some interesting stuff, but the problem is many artists never gave their consent for their art to be used in an image generator like this. so what should artists do? so we have seen art theft before. we have never seen it at this level. this is karla 0rtiz, she's concept artist in san francisco. a concept artist is a person who provides the first initial visuals to what something could be in something in a movie. she has designed art for magic: the gathering, and even in marvel�*s doctor strange movies. last year, she discovered last
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year that her art had been scraped into an ai image data set. especially my fine artwork, and that to me felt really invasive, because i had never given anyone my permission to do that. 0n midjourney, another popular generator, it's incredibly easy you are watching bbc news, we interrupt that programme to bring you some breaking news, former first minister nicola sturgeon has been arrested in connection with the ongoing investigation into the funding and finances of the snp, thatis funding and finances of the snp, that is former first minister nicola sturgeon has been arrested. 0ur police confirmed she was taken into custody on sunday and is questioned by detectives, so we are following all of the updates as we get them. the former first minister's arrest comes after her husband peter
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murrell was arrested in april. now i understand we have statement from the police that we will be able to bring you shortly, but this is that breaking news that nicola sturgeon has been arrested in the police investigation into the snp's finances. so we are gathering more details as we get them, let's bring you this statement now from the police. you can see there, it summarises and confirms are some of those details that we have been giving you. a52—year—old woman has today been arrested as a suspect in connection with the ongoing investigation into the funding and functioning of the scottish national party, that is how the statement begins. it confirms that nicola sturgeon is in custody and is being questioned by police in scotland detectives, it also says a report
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will be sent to the crown 0ffice detectives, it also says a report will be sent to the crown office and procurator fiscal service. the matter is active for the contempt of court act 1981, the public are therefore advised to exercise caution if discussing it on social media. there is no further comment from the police other than that statement. so you will remember that this investigation into the snp's finances has been ongoing. nicola sturgeon�*s arrest comes after her husband peter murrell was arrested in april. and we are getting more details as they come in, here on bbc news, but itjust to confirm that breaking news, former first minister nicola sturgeon arrested in connection with that ongoing inquiry into the finances of the snp. as you
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might remember, her husband, the party's former chief executive, peter murrell, was previously arrested as part of this ongoing investigation, along with x treasurer colin beattie. both men were subsequently released without charge, pending further inquiries and this is an investigation that has been going on for a while. police in scotland launch this operation back in 2021 and the long—running inquiry is linked to the spending of around £600,000 raised by supporters to be earmarked for scottish independence campaigning. it is understood that there have been complaints. the ring fenced cash may have been used
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improperly by being spent elsewhere. so that is the investigation that has now seen former first minister nicola sturgeon arrested. so this is the statement we are showing you that came to us this morning from the police. we also have a statement that was delivered before the arrest. it confirms that action taken in the police inquiry into the snp's finances have been proportionate and necessary. this is according to the head of the force. as i mentioned, this investigation began back in 2021, it reached its peak in april of this year with the arrest of nicola sturgeon�*s husband and former snp chief executive, peter murrell and then party treasurer colin beattie. both men were released without charge at the
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time, pending further investigation. you might remember that as well as the arrest at the time, searches were carried out at a number of properties, including mr murrell and nicola sturgeon�*s home where a police tent was erected and at the snp headquarters in edinburgh. some people close to the party, including its former head of human occasions, viewed the actions of police as heavy—handed and they have been speaking to the newspapers, speaking to the sunday times, the chief constable has defended the probe, he has said that this has been a ongoing investigation and that police got were asked to look at a number of assertions being made, he said they always do that as their duty and they seek evidence to see if there is any substance in them. he added that as a as progress, at an appropriate time we discussed that with the independent prosecutor
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is under the crown 0ffice. so this was the chief constable defending this probe against those views from people close to the party that the police were being heavy—handed. but, once again, this is the breaking news that former first minister nicola sturgeon has been arrested and this is related to the operation that began back in 2021, looking at the finances of the snp party. we can now go to jamie who is the finances of the snp party. we can now go tojamie who is our the finances of the snp party. we can now go to jamie who is our bbc scotland political correspondent to talk a bit more about this. jamie, how unexpected is this? certainly it was a big surprise _ how unexpected is this? certainly it was a big surprise when _ how unexpected is this? certainly it was a big surprise when we - how unexpected is this? certainly it was a big surprise when we heard i was a big surprise when we heard this news a few moments ago. but in the other hand they had been a
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widespread anticipation in scottish political circles that it was entirely possible that nicola sturgeon would be arrested and questioned at some point in this investigation. nicola sturgeon is the third senior person in the snp to be arrested and questioned by detectives within recent weeks, you will remember that the party's chief executive, nicola sturgeon�*s husband, former chief executive and her husband peter murrell was arrested and questioned if you weeks ago, follows two weeks later by the party's former treasurer, colin beattie. they were spoken to for several hours by detectives and later released without charge. certainly, it is a huge development. now the question is exactly what police will be speaking to nicola sturgeon about, obviously we have very restricted in what we can say but police do say that in time a report will go to the regulator fiscal, effectively the scottish law officer. £31
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fiscal, effectively the scottish law officer. u, , fiscal, effectively the scottish law officer. _, , _, ., officer. of course, when nicola sturgeon's _ officer. of course, when nicola sturgeon's husband _ officer. of course, when nicola sturgeon's husband was - officer. of course, when nicola l sturgeon's husband was arrested officer. of course, when nicola - sturgeon's husband was arrested they were released without charge. that’s were released without charge. that's correct. were released without charge. that's correct you — were released without charge. that's correct. you need _ were released without charge. that's correct. you need to _ were released without charge. that's correct. you need to think— were released without charge. that's correct. you need to thinkjust - were released without charge. that's correct. you need to thinkjust howl correct. you need to thinkjust how much scottish politics has changed in a relatively short period of time, just thinking back to february and nicola sturgeon's resignation which came almost completely out of the blue, it really surprised people. at the time she was asked if her resignation was anyway linked to this ongoing police investigation and she was adamant it wasn't. and and she was adamant it wasn't. and 'ust what and she was adamant it wasn't. and just what we'll _ and she was adamant it wasn't. and just what we'll the impact of this be the snp because i obviously there has been some political repercussions because as you say, she resigned rather unexpectedly? certainly, this has been the moment the snp were dreading, regardless of what the actual outcome of today's events may be. since her resignation backin events may be. since her resignation back in february, opinion polls have suggested that support for the snp
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has been in decline, inevitably the headlines having dominated the police investigation into party finances when the new first minister, humza yousaf, would much rather have been talking about policies. as mike gave an interview this morning to the bbc and said... the headlines will be of nicola sturgeon's arrest and on the point he was making this morning. just remind us. _ he was making this morning. just remind us, this _ he was making this morning. just remind us, this operation launched backin remind us, this operation launched back in 2021, so it's been going on for awhile, what are the allegations are being looked into here? essentially it's about how money raised by the snp for a second independence referendum was actually spent. just to talk about the very broad details, the party had appealed to supporters for donations to be... and the money from those donations was going to be spent on
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campaigning and a second independence referendum. so some eyebrows were raised when people saw the party's finances, so the returns and were obviously very surprised, wondering where that money had gone. that was a subject of complaint made to the police. the police have been looking at it for almost two years, but of course the investigation accelerated to a different level earlier on this year when the first arrests were made. and the first interviews by the police as part of the investigation, to place a. and the investigation, to place a. and in a previous _ the investigation, to place a. and in a previous statement, the snp's said said it has been corroborated with the investigation and would continue to do so. we are hearing some voices of concern, the police, according to them, may have been a bit heavy—handed about this investigation? fire bit heavy-handed about this investigation?— bit heavy-handed about this investiuation? . . , ., bit heavy-handed about this investiuation? . . , . . investigation? are certainly what a surrise to investigation? are certainly what a surprise to some _ investigation? are certainly what a surprise to some people _ investigation? are certainly what a surprise to some people was - investigation? are certainly what a surprise to some people was the i investigation? are certainly what a i surprise to some people was the very nature of the police inquiry. two
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months ago, at the time when peter morrow was arrested, many people will remember that images of the search taking place at the house he shares with his wife, nicola sturgeon. the former editor of the daily record, is one of the top tabloid newspapers in scotland later became senior communications figure for the snp and he did raise that question of what may happen if this investigation ultimately doesn't lead to any charges. would it be seen as basically the police overstepping the mark in some way. but recently the outgoing chief constable of police scotland very much a defended the operation. indeed, he said that they were using appropriate measures, when it comes to investigating this case. but this is all going to be something that humza yousaf could certainly do without, this media attention on how
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the snp has been operating? figs without, this media attention on how the snp has been operating?- the snp has been operating? as you sa , the snp has been operating? as you say. humza — the snp has been operating? as you say, humza yousaf— the snp has been operating? as you say, humza yousaf would _ the snp has been operating? as you say, humza yousaf would very - the snp has been operating? as you say, humza yousaf would very much like the focus to be in policies. he wants to plough his own furrow as the first minister, he was seen as the first minister, he was seen as the continuity candidate, taking over when nicola sturgeon left off. but in the day when he was making his big statement to the scottish parliament and his political priorities, that was overshadowed by colin beattie's arrest, the former party treasurer and, as i say, today is big interview, that has now been overshadowed as well. and is big interview, that has now been overshadowed as well.— is big interview, that has now been overshadowed as well. and could you 'ust overshadowed as well. and could you just describe — overshadowed as well. and could you just describe to _ overshadowed as well. and could you just describe to us _ overshadowed as well. and could you just describe to us how— overshadowed as well. and could you just describe to us how the _ overshadowed as well. and could you just describe to us how the snp - just describe to us how the snp essentially functioned and what role nicola sturgeon, both nicola sturgeon and her husband, played within the snp?— sturgeon and her husband, played within the snp? yes, 'ust to explain to viewers outside — within the snp? yes, just to explain to viewers outside the _ within the snp? yes, just to explain to viewers outside the united - to viewers outside the united kingdom in particular, who may not be familiar with the snp. for the past 16 years, the snp has been the
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dominant party in scottish politics, the party's history goes back almost 100 years. at its centre, campaigning for scottish independence. and they got far closer to achieving that aim in the referendum of 2014 than i think many would have imagined. nicola sturgeon, as the party leader, married to the chief executive, peter murrell, some have questioned... peter murrell, some have questioned. . ._ peter murrell, some have questioned... peter murrell, some have auestioned... , . �* , questioned... jamie, i'm so sorry, to stay with _ questioned... jamie, i'm so sorry, to stay with us. — questioned... jamie, i'm so sorry, to stay with us, we _ questioned... jamie, i'm so sorry, to stay with us, we will _ questioned... jamie, i'm so sorry, to stay with us, we will be - questioned... jamie, i'm so sorry, to stay with us, we will be coming | to stay with us, we will be coming back to you, welcome to our international viewers, as we bring you the breaking news that former first minister in scotland, nicola sturgeon, has been arrested over her party's finances. we are now going to go live to speak to our squad and political editor from the times, thank you forjoining us, first of all, this is a very surprising news of the many? it all, this is a very surprising news of the many?— all, this is a very surprising news of the man ? , ., , of the many? it is, in some regards, eseciall of the many? it is, in some regards, especially coming — of the many? it is, in some regards,
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especially coming in _ of the many? it is, in some regards, especially coming in terms - of the many? it is, in some regards, especially coming in terms of - of the many? it is, in some regards, especially coming in terms of blue . especially coming in terms of blue on a sunday on a weekend with such a big gap between the other two arrests that we have seen so far in this investigation. nicola sturgeon is the third person to be arrested by police, questioned by police, in connection with the snp's finances. and their investigation into that. the other two people, her husband, peter murrell, the party's chief executive and colin beattie, the party's former treasurer, they were both questioned for around 12 hours and then released without charge, pending further inquiries. there has been regulation ongoing since those arrests as to whether nicola sturgeon would be next. that had dampened down in recent weeks, because of that passage of time. and it's fair to say that this has come out of the blue and go to many people of god. out of the blue and go to many peeple of god-— out of the blue and go to many people of god. yes, that doesn't seem to be _ people of god. yes, that doesn't seem to be the _ people of god. yes, that doesn't seem to be the sentiment. -- i
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people of god. yes, that doesn't. seem to be the sentiment. -- has seem to be the sentiment. —— has caught people off—guard. we have got comments, they are viewing the actions of the police as heavy—handed? actions of the police as heavy-handed?- actions of the police as heavy-handed? actions of the police as hea -handed? . . ., , heavy-handed? that was particularly in connection — heavy-handed? that was particularly in connection with _ heavy-handed? that was particularly in connection with the _ heavy-handed? that was particularly in connection with the arrests - heavy-handed? that was particularly in connection with the arrests of- in connection with the arrests of peter murrell and the simultaneous raids that took place that day in the house that nicola sturgeon and peter murrell share in glasgow. 0n the snp headquarters in edinburgh. really high—profile operations there, searching the house, there was a blue tent erected in front of nicola sturgeon and peter murrell�*s front door, officers could be seen in searching their shed, walking about with garden tools. the high—profile nature of that did anger some within the snp, particularly those close to an eggless legend. ian livingstone, the outgoing chief constable —— those
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close to nicola sturgeon. the outgoing chief constable has defended it. absolutely, there is no doubt that there was anger in some parts of the snp over the way this has been handled by the police. now we wait to see what, if any further action, the police will take, following this arrest of nicola sturgeon. fits following this arrest of nicola sturueon. �* , ., ., sturgeon. as have mentioned, chief constable sir— sturgeon. as have mentioned, chief constable sir ian _ sturgeon. as have mentioned, chief constable sir ian livingstone - constable sir ian livingstone defended the probe, saying that police scotland were asked to look at a number of assertions being made, we always do that, that is our duty and then we seek evidence to see if there is any substance in them. just how unprecedented is this, that a former first minister is placed under arrest in a case like this? �* , ., is placed under arrest in a case like this? �* , . . , like this? it's an incredible development, _ like this? it's an incredible development, but - like this? it's an incredible development, but we - like this? it's an incredible development, but we are l like this? it's an incredible . development, but we are now like this? it's an incredible - development, but we are now of course in a situation where the two... the last to first ministers have been arrested by police, albeit
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of a very different circumstances. alex hammond, who led the snp into government was arrested and charged and faced trial over a series of sexual assault allegations of which he was cleared. —— alex salmond. but this is a completely different case, it involves the finances of the snp, whether the snp was being run properly. as yet, no charges have been brought against anyone, but it is a huge investigation, it has been going on for a long time as well, it is important to remember. the police first started investigating this around two years ago and it's only now that they are making the arrests. this has been a long—running investigation, painstaking detail behind the scenes and, yes, it is something that is
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shaking scottish politics to its core and is a massive

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