this morning. two words, phoning this morning. two words, borisjohnson. many of those who aren't greatjohnson fans have two words they would like to say to him, but we hear a lot from his supporters on the phone ins. they have two words — stitch up, kangaroo court and witch—hunt, although that is hyphenated. so, should he be put out of our misery, banished to political oblivion? or will a once and future king reclaim and regain his crown? do you want him to? it's never a dull moment. a lot of people want dull moments now. national drama, comedy, farce — we want your unredacted views this morning. we are also imminently going to be hearing some of a speech from the prime minister and we will be listening to that, because he will doubtless mention his former cabinet colleague, the aforementioned boris

johnson. so that's coming up. it is rishi sunak speaking at the launch of tech week, technically, but we will be on watch forjohnson mentions. that's all coming up. let's hearfrom you, mentions. that's all coming up. let's hear from you, 85058 on the text, 08085 909693 on the phones. this is the nation's phone—ins. and we have got the news for you with bethan. a committee of mps who've been investigating whether borisjohnson misled parliament about lockdown parties at downing street are to finish their inquiry today — and decide when it'll be published. mrjohnson resigned as an mp on friday — describing the committee as a "kangaroo court" — after he saw an advanced copy.

scotland's first minister — humza yousaf — is facing pressure to suspend his predecessor nicola sturgeon from the snp after she was arrested. ms sturgeon was questioned as part of a police investigation into the party's finances. she was later released without charge and insists she's "innocent of any wrongdoing". an 11—year—old british girl has been shot dead in the garden of her home in western france. it's believed a neighbour opened fire on her family. her dad is critically injured. a man has been charged with the murder of a 21—year—old woman who went missing in ballymena in northern ireland. chloe mitchell disappeared earlier this month. yesterday, police said they had found suspected human remains. a man aged 26 will appear before court later alongside a 34—year—old man who has been charged with assisting offenders.

yes, as ever, i think a lot of people will have a lot to say. there are some deadly serious stuff here as well, of course. let me remind you that the prime minister rishi sunak is set to be making a speech in the next few minutes in central london, launching tech week, and he will doubtless be referring to his esteemed predecessor, borisjohnson. we are expecting that, anyway. we will hear what he has to say in a few moments. borisjohnson — views differ. a couple of quotes for you here. max hastings, who fired him once, thejournalist here. max hastings, who fired him once, the journalist and former editor. he says of borisjohnson, he has neither principles nor personal convictions, save about his own

ambitions and desires. farfrom being the genial mr nice guy, that he seeks to protect, tony soprano would find him a tad ruthless. on the other hand, lord frost, his famous negotiator and political confrere says his three as a prime minister make him the most consequential prime minister since lady thatcher. borisjohnson: do you want him gone? ordo you want or do you want him back? text 85058. call me on 08085 909693or you can follow 5 live on facebook and twitter. we wa nt we want your unredacted views. i already said that, but i like saying it. before we hearfrom rishi sunak, and i will go straight to it when he

takes to the podium, let's speak to christopher hope, associate politics editor at the daily telegraph. how are you doing? haw editor at the daily telegraph. how are you doing?— editor at the daily telegraph. how are you doing? how are you doing? i'm fine, are you doing? how are you doing? i'm fine. hard _ are you doing? how are you doing? i'm fine, hard to _ are you doing? how are you doing? i'm fine, hard to keep _ are you doing? how are you doing? i'm fine, hard to keep up _ are you doing? how are you doing? i'm fine, hard to keep up this - i'm fine, hard to keep up this weekend. give us an overview, what did you make of it?— did you make of it? what is it? goodness _ did you make of it? what is it? goodness gracious. _ did you make of it? what is it? goodness gracious. last - did you make of it? what is it? | goodness gracious. last friday, nadine — goodness gracious. last friday, nadine dorries resigned. on the thursday. — nadine dorries resigned. on the thursday, borisjohnson, who received — thursday, borisjohnson, who received this draft report from the committee that is being published tomorrow, and then he resigned suddenly— tomorrow, and then he resigned suddenly on friday evening after nadine _ suddenly on friday evening after nadine dorries had gone. then on the saturday. _ nadine dorries had gone. then on the saturday. of _ nadine dorries had gone. then on the saturday, of course, we saw another ally going. _ saturday, of course, we saw another ally going, nigel adams, saturday, of course, we saw another ally going, nigeladams, although saturday, of course, we saw another ally going, nigel adams, although he has come _ ally going, nigel adams, although he has come out overnight to say he sunports — has come out overnight to say he supports borisjohnson. and supports boris johnson. and yesterday supports borisjohnson. and yesterday paul scully, who is a minister— yesterday paul scully, who is a minister for london was unexpectedly not shortlisted for the tory position— not shortlisted for the tory position to take on sadiq khan. so

if you _ position to take on sadiq khan. so if you view— position to take on sadiq khan. so if you view the world through a kind of bionde _ if you view the world through a kind of blonde lens, it's been a bad weekend — of blonde lens, it's been a bad weekend for boris johnson supporters and that— weekend for boris johnson supporters and that is— weekend for boris johnson supporters and that is why you hear david frost supporting — and that is why you hear david frost supporting him as well as max hastings. there is a kind of boris johnson — hastings. there is a kind of boris johnson derangement syndrome that -ets johnson derangement syndrome that gets into _ johnson derangement syndrome that gets into our heads. i noticed how many— gets into our heads. i noticed how many tirnes— gets into our heads. i noticed how many times you used the words boris johnson _ many times you used the words boris johnson in _ many times you used the words boris johnson in your intro, trying to stir up — johnson in your intro, trying to stir up callers, probably. he excites— stir up callers, probably. he excites different opinions. a excites different opinions. trigger, as it were. we are never short of callers on borisjohnson phone—ins and i keep thinking this will be the last borisjohnson phoning, but i am i'm being informed as we speak that the phone lines are going ballistic. we read all your texts, by the way. put your name and where you are from. it's great to take your calls. i am just stalling because we are waiting for the prime minister to talk. it will be

fascinating to hear what he says. christopher, at the heart of all this is his resignation honours list. there seems to be some confusion as to whether some names were chalked off by the prime minister's people, the cabinet office, or not. there is quite a lot in borisjohnson's resignation of infamy, infamy, they have all got it infamy, infamy, they have all got it in for me. , infamy, infamy, they have all got it informe. , ., ., in for me. boris johnson put forward those names — in for me. boris johnson put forward those names for _ in for me. boris johnson put forward those names for peerages. - in for me. boris johnson put forward those names for peerages. hang - in for me. boris johnson put forward | those names for peerages. hang on, christopher. — those names for peerages. hang on, christopher. i _ those names for peerages. hang on, christopher, i know _ those names for peerages. hang on, christopher, i know you _ those names for peerages. hang on, christopher, i know you understand l christopher, i know you understand why i interrupted you because rishi sunak is coming to the stage amidst applause. this is the launch of london tech week. he has to talk about borisjohnson. london tech week. he has to talk about boris johnson.— london tech week. he has to talk about boris johnson. good morning, it's treat about boris johnson. good morning, it's great to — about boris johnson. good morning, it's great to be _ about boris johnson. good morning, it's great to be back _ about boris johnson. good morning, it's great to be back at _ about boris johnson. good morning, it's great to be back at london - about boris johnson. good morning, it's great to be back at london tech | it's great to be back at london tech week at what i think is a moment of huge opportunity. we are an island of innovation, but at a moment like

this, when the tectonic plates of technology are shifting notjust in al, but in quantum, synthetic ai, but in quantum, synthetic biology, semiconductors and much more, we cannot rest satisfied with where we stand. we must act, and act quickly if we want not only to retain our position as one of the world's tech capitals, but to go even further and make this the best country in the world to start, grow and invest in tech businesses. that is my goal and ifeel a sense and invest in tech businesses. that is my goal and i feel a sense of responsibility to make sure we seize it. one of my five priorities is to grow our economy. and the more we innovate, the more we grow. but this isn'tjust innovate, the more we grow. but this isn't just about economics. innovate, the more we grow. but this isn'tjust about economics. like you, i believe that innovation is one of the most powerful forces for transforming people's lives. right now, there is an opportunity for human progress that could surpass

the industrial revolution in both speed and breadth. i believe the uk can achieve this goal, because we start from a position of strength. we have created 134 unicorns in the last decade, third in the world behind only the us and china. we are one of the most digitally literate societies in the world, with a higher percentage of stem graduates than the us and four of the world's top ten universities. we have extraordinary strengths in fintech, cyber and creative industries and biology come away from the biobank, we are pushing at the boundaries of what is possible in health. and the uk is the best place in europe to raise capital. with more invested in tech here than in france and germany combined. but today, i want to answer a simple question. what's the single most important reason

innovators like you should choose this country? the answer is leadership. do you trust the people in charge to get what you're trying to do? with this government and with me as your prime minister, you can. that is not by our words, but our actions. it is this government that is building the most pro—investment tax regime, that is increasing public r&d investment to record levels, that is making our visa system for international talent one of the most competitive in the world. we are overhauling our listing rules to make it easierfor companies to raise public funding and changing our pension rules to unlock new private capital. and we are changing the way government itself works. i created a brand—new department focused on science, innovation and technology, with a mission to do things differently, from bringing in world leading experts to taking more risks in

support of innovation. and when the moment came, it was this government that acted to rescue silicon valley bank. so today i am proud to announce the launch of hsbc innovation banking, the most significant global tech bank, combined with hsbc�*s firepower and headquartered here in the uk. and of course, is the uk where google chose to bring together its entire ai division, underthe to bring together its entire ai division, under the leadership of a brit at google the mind. and if our goal is to make this country the best place in the world for tech, ai is surely one of the greatest opportunities before us. as chancellor, i doubled the number of ai scholarships, because even back then i recognise the potential of ai as a general purpose technology. with most things in life, the more you learn about them, the less

magical they appear. but the more we learn about frontier technologies like ai, the more they widen our horizons. already, we have seen ai helped the paralysed to walk and discover super bug killing antibiotics. and that is just the beginning. combined with a computational power of quantum, we could be on the precipice of discovering cures for diseases like cancer and dementia, or ways to grow crops that could feed the entire world. the possibilities are extraordinary. but we must and we will do it safely. i know people are concerned. the very pioneers of ai are warning us about the ways these technologies could undermine our values and freedoms through to the most extreme risks of all. and that's why leading on al also means leading on al safety. so we are building a new partnership between

our vibrant academia, building a new partnership between ourvibrant academia, brilliant building a new partnership between our vibrant academia, brilliant ai companies and the government that gets it. and we will do that in three ways. first, we are going to do cutting edge safety research here in the uk, with £100 million for our task force, we are dedicating more funding to ai safety than any other government. we are working with the frontier labs like google deepmind and am pleased to announce they have committed to give priority to research for safety purposes to help build better evaluations and help us better understand the opportunities and risks of these systems. second, ai doesn't respect traditional national borders. so we need global cooperation between nations and labs. just as reunited through cop to tackle climate change, so the uk will host the first—ever summit

global ai safety later this year. i want to make the uk notjust the intellectual home, but the geographical home of global ai safety regulation. third, we are going to seize the extraordinary potential of ai going to seize the extraordinary potential of al to improve lives. that is why we are already vesting record sums in our capability, including £900 million in computer technology and 2.5 billion in quantum. and we are harnessing ai quantum. and we are harnessing al to transform our public services, from saving teachers hundreds of hours of time spent lesson planning to helping nhs patients get quicker diagnoses and more accurate tests. ai can help us achieve the holy grail of public service reform, better and more efficient services. so this is our strategy for al — to lead at home, to lead overseas and to lead change in our public services. all part of how we meet

our goal of making this the best country in the world for tech. let me just conclude with this final thought. i was recently looking for a collection held by the british library, and i saw a letterfrom charles babbage to the then chancellor dating from the 18305, thanking him forfunding his difference engine, the forerunner of the modern computer. that was a decisive moment. the british deci5ive moment. the british government broke with the conventions of the time and for a decade back to this breakthrough technology. we are at a similar moment today, and i'm determined that when future researchers visit the british library in 200 years' time, they will discover that this government and all of us here in this room met this moment with the same courage, vision and determination. thank you.

applause. thanks for being here, prime ministen _ thanks for being here, prime minister. it's fantastic to hear your— minister. it's fantastic to hear your enthusiasm for al and the role the uk _ your enthusiasm for al and the role the uk can— your enthusiasm for al and the role the uk can play on the global stage to steer— the uk can play on the global stage to steer it— the uk can play on the global stage to steer it successfully for the world — to steer it successfully for the world i— to steer it successfully for the world. i have appreciated the conversations we have had over the last few _ conversations we have had over the last few weeks about how we can develop — last few weeks about how we can develop ai both boldly but also responsibly. it's important that government and industry work together— government and industry work together on this, and this is why i think— together on this, and this is why i think london tech week is important for giving _ think london tech week is important for giving us a platform for exchanges like this. over the next few years. — exchanges like this. over the next few years, as the prime minister said, _ few years, as the prime minister said. at — few years, as the prime minister said. al is — few years, as the prime minister said, ai is going to offer us incredible opportunities to make life better. at google deepmind, we are excited about how ai can help advance _ are excited about how ai can help advance science and medicine to

improve — advance science and medicine to improve the lives of millions of people — improve the lives of millions of people. prime minister, what do you think of— people. prime minister, what do you think of the — people. prime minister, what do you think of the biggest opportunities for at _ think of the biggest opportunities for al to — think of the biggest opportunities for al to make a positive impact in the uk? _ for alto make a positive impact in the uk? ., ., ., ., the uk? thanks for having me and congratulations _ the uk? thanks for having me and congratulations on _ the uk? thanks for having me and congratulations on everything - the uk? thanks for having me and congratulations on everything you| congratulations on everything you are doing. if i think about it, there is an obvious economic one. i talked about al being a general purpose technology. and this idea of everyjob having ai a5 a co—pilot, making everyone'sjob a bit everyjob having ai a5 a co—pilot, making everyone's job a bit easier and more productive, and that replicated acro55 and more productive, and that replicated across an entire economy obviously has enormous potential to change how we do things. that is the first one. beyond that in public services, health and education, we are already seeing the promise of what ai can do, whether it is new drug discovery or helping doctors do surgery more accurately and faster, or indeed detect cancers and other things much earlier than they otherwise would. we are just at the beginning of the invasion that is

happening —— we are at the beginning of the innovation. that seems to me transformative. and education is the thing i am most excited about. there are not many things that are silver bullets in public policy, but world—class education is probably the closest we have too it. it's the best way to spread opportunity and reduce inequality. and the power of ai reduce inequality. and the power of al to reduce teachers' workloads, lesson planning, marking, but also to provide personalised learning for each individual, which we know when it comes to tutoring is so powerful, technology holds out the promise that every pupil having a personalised tutor, that is potentially extraordinary in terms of the good it can do. i potentially extraordinary in terms of the good it can do.— potentially extraordinary in terms of the good it can do. i agree with all of those _ of the good it can do. i agree with all of those things. _ of the good it can do. i agree with all of those things. this _ of the good it can do. i agree with all of those things. this is - of the good it can do. i agree with all of those things. this is the - all of those things. this is the potential— all of those things. this is the potential specifically in the uk and london. _ potential specifically in the uk and london, of fusing together ai with all the _

london, of fusing together ai with all the great strengths we have in other— all the great strengths we have in other sectors like fintech and biology. — other sectors like fintech and biology, gaming, all the sectors where _ biology, gaming, all the sectors where n — biology, gaming, all the sectors where ai can have massive transformations. how do you think we can make _ transformations. how do you think we can make the uk the best place to both start — can make the uk the best place to both start and scale up tech companies? | both start and scale up tech companies?— both start and scale up tech companies? i hear this a lot. firstl , companies? i hear this a lot. firstly. we — companies? i hear this a lot. firstly, we are _ companies? i hear this a lot. firstly, we are already - companies? i hear this a lot. firstly, we are already a - companies? i hear this a lot. l firstly, we are already a great place to scale up tech business. i mentioned in my remarks that if you look over the last decade, more unicorns in this country than anywhere other than the us and china. that is a good record to start from. but obviously, we need to keep pushing ourselves. the first thing is people. there is an extraordinary stat. something like half of our fastest growing innovation businesses have a foreign founder. so that tells you you need a visa system that attracts the best and brightest to the uk, and i think we have got one, whether it is the new scale up of these are that i introduced as chancellor for companies who are scaling up to get the talent they need, whether it is

our innovative visa, which is globally competitive, or the high potential individual visa that i created, we set if you have graduated from a global top 50 university, come to the uk. you don't need a job offer, we just want to make sure you can speak english and have a certain amount of money to support yourself but otherwise, we want to hear because we think you can add to our economy. that is a massive open for business signed to the world's most talented. capital, we are closing the gap if you look at vc funding as a percentage of gdp. we had a big gap with the us five years ago. that gap is steadily closing. the chancellor is making a tonne of reforms to the pension insurance industry to unlock more capital. i would like to get your thoughts on culture, though. i took from my time living in california that a government can do all these things, but fundamentally, it requires entrepreneurs to keep

going, to not be content with building the £100 million business and then the billion pound business, but to keep growing. and ifound in california that that is very much the attitude, the sky is the limit. everyone thinks they can create a $100 billion company, and changing that culture is tough for a government to do. i don't know what you think? i government to do. i don't know what ou think? ., ., government to do. i don't know what ou think? . ., , you think? i agree. i have seen the transformation. _ you think? i agree. i have seen the transformation. we _ you think? i agree. i have seen the transformation. we started - you think? i agree. i have seen the transformation. we started googlej transformation. we started google deepmind in 2010. things were different— deepmind in 2010. things were different then. i remember ourfirst investors. _ different then. i remember ourfirst investors, who were us based. they were _ investors, who were us based. they were suspicious that you could build hu-e were suspicious that you could build huge deep _ were suspicious that you could build huge deep tech companies anywhere other than— huge deep tech companies anywhere other than silicon valley. i wanted to prove _ other than silicon valley. i wanted to prove that that could be done and i to prove that that could be done and i hope _ to prove that that could be done and i hope we _ to prove that that could be done and i hope we played a part in making that easier— i hope we played a part in making that easier now. the environment has transformed _ that easier now. the environment has transformed completely from ten years _ transformed completely from ten years ago. it is a lot easier to start— years ago. it is a lot easier to start and _ years ago. it is a lot easier to

start and grow meaningful deep tech companies. it has been great to see that and _ companies. it has been great to see that and there is a huge opportunity from here _ that and there is a huge opportunity from here and i also agree that we have _ from here and i also agree that we have to _ from here and i also agree that we have to he — from here and i also agree that we have to be open to talent internationally in the uk does well on that _ internationally in the uk does well on that. you mentioned babbage in your opening remarks. he is a hero of mine _ your opening remarks. he is a hero of mine the — your opening remarks. he is a hero of mine. the uk has always had a rich science — of mine. the uk has always had a rich science and tech heritage. how do you _ rich science and tech heritage. how do you think— rich science and tech heritage. how do you think we can build on that in the future? — do you think we can build on that in the future? we have an amazing history— the future? we have an amazing history on— the future? we have an amazing history on al specifically with ada lovelace — history on al specifically with ada lovelace and computer science in general — lovelace and computer science in general if— lovelace and computer science in reneral. , ., lovelace and computer science in reneral. i. ., ., ~' lovelace and computer science in jeneral l, ., general. if you look at the industrial _ general. if you look at the industrial revolution, - general. if you look at the industrial revolution, the | general. if you look at the - industrial revolution, the number general. if you look at the _ industrial revolution, the number of inventions that happened here, we'll know about steam under forerunners of electricity, but recognising tech, i think even the lawnmower wa5 tech, i think even the lawnmower was invented in that period. that is our heritage. the more interesting thing

going forward, one is our approach to regulation. when it comes to technology and new businesses, there is a balance to be struck between regulation that supports innovation but puts appropriate protection in place, and the uk has a track record of getting that balance right. not everyone does. but the other thing which is only going to become more important is the fact that we are a global powerhouse when it comes to the creative side of things. the creative industries in the uk are going like gangbusters, growing fastest —— twice as fast as the economy. look at the amount of awards we are winning, postproduction, preproduction, you name it. it is a creative powerhouse notjust in film and tv, but advertising, marketing, gaming. and as technology infuses the creative industries more than it has in the past, thatjust plays to our strengths because there are very few countries if any which punch the way

we do when it comes to creative industries. that is a unique strength we have. i industries. that is a unique strength we have.- industries. that is a unique strength we have. i agree. going back to what _ strength we have. i agree. going back to what you _ strength we have. i agree. going back to what you said _ strength we have. i agree. going back to what you said earlier, - strength we have. i agree. going| back to what you said earlier, it's about— back to what you said earlier, it's about having the ambition to play on that global stage. that is something all the _ that global stage. that is something all the entrepreneurs in the audience can do more of. it is probably— audience can do more of. it is probably something you learned in stanford _ probably something you learned in stanford and silicon valley and i have _ stanford and silicon valley and i have been learning as well since interacting at google. we have amazing — interacting at google. we have amazing world—class universities, incredible — amazing world—class universities, incredible talent and heritage, we 'ust incredible talent and heritage, we just have — incredible talent and heritage, we just have to go for it.— just have to go for it. that's riaht, just have to go for it. that's right. it's — just have to go for it. that's right, it's about _ just have to go for it. that's right, it's about confidence | just have to go for it. that's i right, it's about confidence and ambition. succe55 breeds success. deepmind's example might inspire others here today. and in a couple of years today, we will be celebrating the next deepmind and thatis celebrating the next deepmind and that is how it works. ahsi is celebrating the next deepmind and that is how it works.— that is how it works. ai is a huge strenath that is how it works. ai is a huge strength for _ that is how it works. ai is a huge strength for the _ that is how it works. ai is a huge strength for the uk, _ that is how it works. ai is a huge strength for the uk, but - that is how it works. ai is a huge strength for the uk, but we - that is how it works. ai is a huge strength for the uk, but we are l that is how it works. ai is a huge . strength for the uk, but we are also -ood strength for the uk, but we are also good at _ strength for the uk, but we are also good at many other technologies. what _ good at many other technologies. what other things excite you? ifi what other things excite you? if i think what other things excite you? think about what other things excite you? if i think about the big growth

industries and tech, ai, semiconductors, we talked about engineering, biology, quantum, those are the tech sectors we need to make sure we are well—positioned for, and i believe we are. of of those, life sciences is the one that is particularly exciting. ye5, sciences is the one that is particularly exciting. yes, we have europe's biggest life sciences industry. but you saw during the pandemic not only to be able to create a vaccine here, we also had a regulator that meant we were the first place to approve a vaccine and it showed the agility that the uk is known for. combine that with the unique strengths we have with the biobank and genomic sequences, it would be interesting to get your perspective. when i talk to people around the world, the biobank is an asset with its database and our strength and genomic sequencing, which i think doesn't exist

anywhere. so when you think about drug discovery and how we push the boundaries of what is possible, combined with what you have done, that seems to me to be exciting. i 100% agree. that is the most exciting — 100% agree. that is the most exciting opportunity both commercially and for the good of the world _ commercially and for the good of the world it _ commercially and for the good of the world it is _ commercially and for the good of the world. it is what we like to call digital— world. it is what we like to call digital biology, a new era where you can do— digital biology, a new era where you can do a _ digital biology, a new era where you can do a lot — digital biology, a new era where you can do a lot of exploration. nicky_ can do a lot of exploration. nicky campbell: interesting stuff, for sure, something that rishi sunak stands on solid ground. this is clearly an area of interest for him. if there are any questions on other matters, we will bring them to you. but the phone lines are rammed. you want to express your view. on boris johnson, the big political story of the time. there is so much in that, with the covid inquiry upon us soon.

so from artificial intelligence back to a man who many says is a superficial character, but to others a noble prince brought low by a cabal. a couple of things from his letter. "i am not alone in thinking that there was a witch—hunt under way to take revenge for brexit and ultimately to reverse the 2016 referendum result". it's a coruscating letter. christopher hope, we have got cause galore from ian in gainsborough, tim in sheffield and many more electors. chris, are you still with us? i was there all the _ chris, are you still with us? i was there all the way _ chris, are you still with us? i was there all the way until _ chris, are you still with us? i was there all the way until you - there all the way until you interrupted. it was like a soothing balm after an insane weekend to hear the pm talking about unicorns and someone called babbage. he was so happy. someone called babbage. he was so happy, wasn't he? he is happy amongst the tech community, talking

about positivity and tech stuff, miles away from the madness of boris johnson. and that does the way, talking about things which might be a bit more boring than you expect, but they are more important for our economy. but they are more important for our econom . , . but they are more important for our econom. ,., ,, ., but they are more important for our econom . , ., ,, ., ., , economy. grant shapps hinted at this when he was — economy. grant shapps hinted at this when he was talking _ economy. grant shapps hinted at this when he was talking to _ economy. grant shapps hinted at this when he was talking to laura - when he was talking to laura kuenssberg over the weekend. dell is the new exciting —— dull is the new exciting. the new exciting -- dull is the new excitina. ., ., ., , , ., , exciting. for 'ournalists and people watchin: exciting. forjournalists and people watching politics _ exciting. forjournalists and people watching politics closely _ exciting. forjournalists and people watching politics closely we - exciting. forjournalists and people watching politics closely we have i watching politics closely we have slightly— watching politics closely we have slightly been fed a diet since about 2014 and _ slightly been fed a diet since about 2014 and the indyref vote in scotland, a diet of perpetual elections, drama, resignations, chaos~ — elections, drama, resignations, chaos. maybe grant shapps is right and maybe — chaos. maybe grant shapps is right and maybe this unicorn chat from mr sunak— and maybe this unicorn chat from mr sunak is— and maybe this unicorn chat from mr sunak is what we need more of. but

notjust— sunak is what we need more of. but not just yet~ — sunak is what we need more of. but not just yet-— not 'ust yet. interesting line right at notjust yet. interesting line right at the top- _ notjust yet. interesting line right at the top- l'm — notjust yet. interesting line right at the top. i'm going _ notjust yet. interesting line right at the top. i'm going to _ notjust yet. interesting line right at the top. i'm going to get - notjust yet. interesting line right at the top. i'm going to get one l at the top. i'm going to get one more answerfrom you at the top. i'm going to get one more answer from you and then i am going to take the news. then i will take the sport and then we are going to come to our viewers and listeners, because they have lots to say. the line at the beginning, christopher. it was about trust in the people in charge. i think it was the people in charge. i think it was the first sentence he said. you have to trust the people in charge to get things done, trust them to have the right policies for britain. do you think that was a coincidence? he asked a question, do you trust the people in charge? that is the key point, the question that tory mp5 will be asking today when in the house of commons this week, how do you trust more, that guy who is now the london mp that has flamed out with an attack on parliament or me?

may be a bit more mundane, straightforward, very successful business person, i can get the right results here for this party, this country, he is now secure, i think, taking the party into the next general election. do you trust me to do that? that is his question. i always trust you to come on and say interesting stuff. your call is coming up. rammed. right now, it is time for the news and sport. the report on whether borisjohnson misled parliament about lockdown parties at downing street will be finalised today. the former prime minister resigned as an mp on friday — accusing the committee

of being a "kangaroo court" after he received an advanced copy of its findings. scotland's first minister — humza yousaf — is being urged to suspend nicola sturgeon from the snp. she was arrested yesterday as part of a police investigation into the partys finances. m5 sturgeon was released without charge pending further inquiries — and has insisted she's innocent of any wrongdoing. an 11—year—old girl from a british family has been shot dead while playing in her garden in france. it's reported a neighbour opened fire on her family. her dad is critically injured. detectives investigating the disappearance of a 21 year—old woman from county antrim have charged a 26 year—old man with murder. chloe mitchell from ballymena went missing more than a week ago. another man has been charged with assisting offenders. the men are due before magistrates this morning.

those were the news headline — with the sport — here's katie. novak djokovic's coach goran ivanisovic says he'll find the motivation to win 24, perhaps 25 gs titles — it follows his record—breaking 23rd as he won the french open for the 3rd time yesterday — that's one more than rafa nadal and equal with serena williams. brentford striker ivan toney says the fa's investigation into his gambling breaches was made public in a "spiteful" way. he's spoken for the first time on the kick game youtube channel — toney says missing out on the world cup while under investigation was worse than the eight—month ban that he's now serving. the icc have fined india opener shubman gill 15% of his match fees for questioning on social media an umpiring decision against him in the world test championship. he disputed whether australian cameron green's catch was clean when he was dismissed for 18. australia won by 209 runs with the first ashes test starting on friday. and england head coach steve borthwick has named a 28—player training squad

for england's first rugby world cup preparation camp — with harlequins duo, propjoe marler and scrumhalf danny care are both involved. care's last england cap was under eddiejones on their tour to australia last summer, whilst marler hasn't featured since the autumn of 2021. what a weekend it was, it's going to go on. the committee publishing the report this week. i am going to try and listen to this. we have got for

you, ian, jeffrey, josie, ten, josh, megan, david. good morning, all. let's go withjosh and josie. josie, on you go. hi. let's go with josh and josie. josie, on you go— let's go with josh and josie. josie, on you go. hi. we don't really care about these _ on you go. hi. we don't really care about these things _ on you go. hi. we don't really care about these things that _ on you go. hi. we don't really care about these things that they - on you go. hi. we don't really care about these things that they are i about these things that they are going on about boris and the parties, this was a year or two ago, wejust want something parties, this was a year or two ago, we just want something to happen... hang on once i can, i'll be right back, hold that thought. the element on your first question... it is back, hold that thought. the element on your first question. . ._ on your first question. .. it is an obvious one — on your first question. .. it is an obvious one when _ on your first question. .. it is an obvious one when we _ on your first question. .. it is an obvious one when we think- on your first question. .. it is an i obvious one when we think about risks of ai and water people worried about, obviously peoples concern is forjobs

about, obviously peoples concern is for jobs and about, obviously peoples concern is forjobs and we've had announcements where it started for the first time, ai is being associated with how companies are reforming and restructuring their workforces, so obviously that's going to be anxious for people, we've grapple with these things in the past and mit had an interesting study they'd done where they looked all the jobs of today and discovered that i think 60% plus didn't exist 30 or 40 years ago and it gives you a sense of something we had to grapple with before. what does that mean? it means governments have to ensure everyone has access to education and skills at every point in their lives and that is what we are doing and we are changing how we fund education, so it's not something we think of is just something that stops when you finish school or college, something you will have to come back to and will want to come back to over the course of your entire career ended out of. so i think that's incredibly important and making sure people in the first place are setup important and making sure people in the first place are set up to participate in this new economy that

is more focused on technological skills, and that's why i am very passionate about making sure people study maths up to 18, something where international outliers are not doing that and we need to do a betterjob of that doing that and we need to do a better job of that for the invisible brain, including in the creative industries where are becoming even more on chivas well. —— quantitative. when it comes to owners and borisjohnson, boris johnson asked me to do something that i was not prepared to do because i did not think it was right. that was to either overrule the committee or to make promises for people. i was not prepared to do that, i did not think it was right, and if people don't like that then tough. when i got thisjob... applause. when i tough. when i got thisjob... applause.. when i got thisjob i said i was going to do things differently because i wanted to change politics and that's when

doing. and i'm also keen to make sure we change our country works and that's what i'm here talking about today, making sure we can grow our economy and maintain our leadership in the innovative industries of the future. why? it will createjobs in the innovative industries of the future. why? it will create jobs for people, spread opportunity around and it has the potential, as we've been discussing, to transform people's lives, and as prime minister i want to make sure that happens because i want to make sure that i improve everyone's lives in this country and do anyway that is right and in accordance with my values and that's what i'm going to keep doing. values and that's what i'm going to keep doing-— values and that's what i'm going to keep doing._ have - values and that's what i'm going to keep doing._ have we . values and that's what i'm going to i keep doing._ have we got keep doing. applause. have we got the times? so _ keep doing. applause. have we got the times? 50 might _ keep doing. applause. have we got the times? 50 might thank - keep doing. applause. have we got the times? 50 might thank you. - keep doing. applause. have we got the times? 50 might thank you. we | the times? so might thank you. we are hosting the summit in the autumn about al safety. d0 are hosting the summit in the autumn about al safety-— about al safety. do you believe the existential risk _ about al safety. do you believe the existential risk is _ about al safety. do you believe the existential risk is a _ about al safety. do you believe the existential risk is a reality - about al safety. do you believe the

existential risk is a reality in - existential risk is a reality in terms — existential risk is a reality in terms of— existential risk is a reality in terms of what are the risks of ai eventually — terms of what are the risks of ai eventually down the track? i�*m eventually down the track? i'm sittin: eventually down the track? i'm sitting next _ eventually down the track? i'm sitting next to _ eventually down the track? i�*m sitting next to somebody who is much better placed to answer this than me, so i will let them comment on that. there is a range of concerns people have, the socioeconomic impact, on peoplesjobs, and risks around misuse, how do people use ai around misuse, how do people use al to do things are bad and people have always used technology to do bad things? that is not a new thing, we just need to be alert to that. new opportunities for malicious actors. and then there is capability overhang which speaks to... mainly about al, overhang which speaks to... mainly about at. very _ overhang which speaks to... mainly about al, very important, _ overhang which speaks to... mainly about al, very important, we've - overhang which speaks to... mainly l about al, very important, we've done some terrific discussions on that and we willagain, some terrific discussions on that and we will again, there was a question they from bbc political correspondent and you hurt a bit of the answer saying i'm not going to

overrule the house of lords committee on borisjohnson's committee on boris johnson's nominations committee on borisjohnson's nominations because they are raised if few of them. my apologies. josie, i'm so sorry. carry on again. nobody cares about — i'm so sorry. carry on again. nobody cares about what _ i'm so sorry. carry on again. nobody cares about what happened - i'm so sorry. carry on again. nobody cares about what happened a - i'm so sorry. carry on again. nobody cares about what happened a few. cares about what happened a few years ago or covid, we were the first country thanks to boris to get inoculations out and he gave us loads of money that other countries didn't do and they are saying he did bad things but rishi sunak really has nowhere to go with that. rishi sunak i believe is a really good chancellor, fantastic but as a prime minister, no. boris wa5 chancellor, fantastic but as a prime minister, no. boris was always kind of ugly and always push britain and the uk and that is why he is popular and he won the biggest selection in something like 30 years. josh

and he won the biggest selection in something like 30 years.— something like 30 years. josh in a second. what _ something like 30 years. josh in a second. what was _ something like 30 years. josh in a second. what was the _ something like 30 years. josh in a second. what was the money - something like 30 years. josh in a second. what was the money he l something like 30 years. josh in a i second. what was the money he got from us? we second. what was the money he got from us? ~ ., ., ., , second. what was the money he got fromus? ., ., ., , ,, second. what was the money he got fromus? ., ., ., , , from us? we got various bonuses and -a outs from us? we got various bonuses and payouts that — from us? we got various bonuses and payouts that helped _ from us? we got various bonuses and payouts that helped and _ from us? we got various bonuses and payouts that helped and as _ from us? we got various bonuses and payouts that helped and as i - from us? we got various bonuses and payouts that helped and as i say, - payouts that helped and as i say, mostly, we were extremely busy but we all had her ppe, we were the first country to find a cure for the and they all worked really hard and mostly he is really upbeat about britain. .. mostly he is really upbeat about britain. ., ,., .,, , ., britain. yeah, the boosterism. you can answer— britain. yeah, the boosterism. you can answer some _ britain. yeah, the boosterism. you can answer some of _ britain. yeah, the boosterism. you can answer some of that _ britain. yeah, the boosterism. you can answer some of that stuff, - britain. yeah, the boosterism. you| can answer some of that stuff, josh and saint helens.— and saint helens. hello. my view is different slightly _ and saint helens. hello. my view is different slightly to _ and saint helens. hello. my view is different slightly to the _ and saint helens. hello. my view is different slightly to the previous i different slightly to the previous caller~ _ different slightly to the previous caller~ in — different slightly to the previous caller. in some ways i agree with some _ caller. in some ways i agree with some of— caller. in some ways i agree with some of what you said there, he is of course _ some of what you said there, he is of course very upbeat and has a persona — of course very upbeat and has a persona about him but he is also a compulsive — persona about him but he is also a compulsive liar. so, in terms of

winning — compulsive liar. so, in terms of winning his _ compulsive liar. so, in terms of winning his huge electoral mandate, that was— winning his huge electoral mandate, that was based on somehow being able to get— that was based on somehow being able to get some miraculous excellent brexit— to get some miraculous excellent brexit that logically wasn't really ever going to happen and you could ask so— ever going to happen and you could ask so many different people, academics, other politicians and they would have quite happily said, you know. — they would have quite happily said, you know, we don't really see how we could _ you know, we don't really see how we could decouple from the eu and have all the _ could decouple from the eu and have all the best— could decouple from the eu and have all the best bits as well but he very— all the best bits as well but he very much push that what he got in the end _ very much push that what he got in the end was— very much push that what he got in the end was not very good, he actually— the end was not very good, he actually nearly created really significant issues in northern lreland — significant issues in northern ireland that was actually getting to a point _ ireland that was actually getting to a point of— ireland that was actually getting to a point of being quite dangerous, and that— a point of being quite dangerous, and that is— a point of being quite dangerous, and that is my kind of overall opinion— and that is my kind of overall opinion on— and that is my kind of overall opinion on someone like boris johnson. _ opinion on someone like boris johnson. a _ opinion on someone like boris johnson, a little bit like donald trump. — johnson, a little bit like donald trump. he _ johnson, a little bit like donald trump, he has the ability to kind of galvanised — trump, he has the ability to kind of galvanised people, but at the same time. _ galvanised people, but at the same time. he's — galvanised people, but at the same time, he's not telling the truth thus— time, he's not telling the truth thus appears telling people what they want to hear. and they believe it. they want to hear. and they believe it and _ they want to hear. and they believe it and in— they want to hear. and they believe it. and in some ways partly because

of what _ it. and in some ways partly because of what rishi sunak was just talking about— of what rishi sunak was just talking about the _ of what rishi sunak was just talking about the technology and ai of what rishi sunak was just talking about the technology and aland social— about the technology and aland social media, false information can spread _ social media, false information can spread really, really quickly, and so that— spread really, really quickly, and so that is— spread really, really quickly, and so that is my primary view. i think he needs— so that is my primary view. i think he needs to — so that is my primary view. i think he needs to not be involved in british— he needs to not be involved in british politics, i think he is a threat — british politics, i think he is a threat and _ british politics, i think he is a threat and actually things like the le-al threat and actually things like the legal investigations committee is, all of— legal investigations committee is, all of those types of things, you have _ all of those types of things, you have to — all of those types of things, you have to remember that we have those things— have to remember that we have those things so— have to remember that we have those things so that we keep people accountable.— things so that we keep people accountable. , , ., accountable. interesting twist on that, as reported _ accountable. interesting twist on that, as reported in _ accountable. interesting twist on that, as reported in the - accountable. interesting twist on that, as reported in the times i accountable. interesting twist on i that, as reported in the times today that, as reported in the times today that boris johnson that, as reported in the times today that borisjohnson is saying have my whatsapp messages, have my unredacted notebooks, release them on here saying the cabinet office are not giving notebooks back to him and he suspects 5kulduggery. thank you very much. tim, what would you

like to see?— like to see? hello. we've had two pandemics _ like to see? hello. we've had two pandemics recently, _ like to see? hello. we've had two pandemics recently, the - like to see? hello. we've had two | pandemics recently, the pandemic like to see? hello. we've had two i pandemics recently, the pandemic of covid that devastated the country and we've had the pandemic of a borisjohnson led government of incompetence and corruption, it is out there, the facts are out there, reports all over the place about what actually went on, what he did and what's going on but for me, it annoys me when... let and what's going on but for me, it annoys me when. . ._ and what's going on but for me, it annoys me when... let me 'ust break in, i am annoys me when... let me 'ust break in. i am sorry. — annoys me when... let me 'ust break in. i am sorry. but annoys me when... let me 'ust break in, i am sorry, but we _ annoys me when. .. let me 'ust break in, i am sorry, but we have- annoys me when... let me just break in, i am sorry, but we have breakingl in, i am sorry, but we have breaking news, bearwith in, i am sorry, but we have breaking news, bear with us. we are going to go through to 11 on this, it's a very busy morning and some news ju5t very busy morning and some news just through, a very controversial politician, the former italian prime minister silvio berlusconi has died at the age of 86. he won the general election there in 1994. we are

talking personality, charismatic politicians. he was right at the top of that particular pediment, wasn't he? a5 of that particular pediment, wasn't he? as i say, he won the general election in 1994, forming a right—wing government. his coalition collapsed after only seven months, in and out of power, bouncing back to become actually�*s longest serving prime minister since the second world war, and they have had a good few prime ministers the second world war. he spent years defending himself against charges of corruption and sexual impropriety as well with those strangely charmed bungle bungle parties. sometimes when it came to corruption he was found guilty in lower courts but used italy's tortuous legal system to ensure that he never went to jail. using the term extraordinary

in neutral sense, he was an extraordinary politician, the former italian prime minister silvio berlusconi, a quite extraordinary personality as well. more on this on the bbc news website and throughout the bbc news website and throughout the day and on five live. silvio berlusconi has died aged 86. sorry, everyone, where were we? where we you, everyone, where were we? where we ou, ., , , you, timfor me, the things he is actually done _ you, timfor me, the things he is actually done and _ you, timfor me, the things he is actually done and carried - you, timfor me, the things he is actually done and carried out... | you, timfor me, the things he is i actually done and carried out... for me what i think rating is people like michael gove and grant sharp's coming out and doing the whole going against him, where were they a year ago or two years ago? anybody associated with them through all the shenanigans he was doing should be tarred with this brush and the shouldn... itjust goes to show,

either they are very selfish and were just wanting to do things for themselves or theirjudgment is themselves or their judgment is absolutely themselves or theirjudgment is absolutely appalling, and they should all go out with him. ian in gainsborough, _ should all go out with him. ian in gainsborough, good _ should all go out with him. ian in gainsborough, good morning. i should all go out with him. ian in i gainsborough, good morning. good mornin: , gainsborough, good morning. good mornina, i gainsborough, good morning. good morning, i totally _ gainsborough, good morning. good morning, i totally agree. rishi sunak— morning, i totally agree. rishi sunak was the chancellor, was involved — sunak was the chancellor, was involved with all the decisions to do with— involved with all the decisions to do with covid and every thing else and he _ do with covid and every thing else and he is — do with covid and every thing else and he is like it is nothing to do with— and he is like it is nothing to do with me. — and he is like it is nothing to do with me, and boris is a liar. and basically— with me, and boris is a liar. and basically what he does is takes people — basically what he does is takes people down with them, he does not care what— people down with them, he does not care what other people, he will step on them _ care what other people, he will step on them to— care what other people, he will step on them to get what he wants to go and the _ on them to get what he wants to go and the fact we had to pay 250,000 pounds _ and the fact we had to pay 250,000 pounds for— and the fact we had to pay 250,000 pounds for his legal bills when it's a cost _ pounds for his legal bills when it's a cost of— pounds for his legal bills when it's a cost of living crisis and richey, £21 million— a cost of living crisis and richey, £21 million lost to fraud and the covid _ £21 million lost to fraud and the covid inquiry, we don't know what sort of— covid inquiry, we don't know what sort of finances we've lost in that, any cost _ sort of finances we've lost in that, any cost of — sort of finances we've lost in that, any cost of living crisis. when did deirdre _ any cost of living crisis. when did deirdre think about the people not the actual— deirdre think about the people not the actual politicians themselves and their— the actual politicians themselves and their own self interest? | the actual politicians themselves and their own self interest? i would like mean and their own self interest? i would like megan to _ and their own self interest? i would like megan to talk— and their own self interest? i would like megan to talk to _ and their own self interest? i would like megan to talk to you _ and their own self interest? i would like megan to talk to you about - and their own self interest? i would like megan to talk to you about thisj like megan to talk to you about this because it's good to see if we can have a meeting of minds. iii.

because it's good to see if we can have a meeting of minds. hi. i want boris johnson _ have a meeting of minds. hi. i want boris johnson to _ have a meeting of minds. hi. i want boris johnson to come _ have a meeting of minds. hi. i want boris johnson to come back, - borisjohnson to come back, definitely. i admire that man so much, he has done so much for britain, keep reading everybody saying bad things about him, that's part of being a politician obviously, they always aim to chop the head off. just to make it absolutely clear, i wanted to stay in the eu, but i still think boris johnson done a wonderfuljob getting us out of it, i also think he'd done a wonderfuljob all during covid, he is absolutely... i think he is wonderful and i am so fed up with smarmy people being so self—important. we are members of the intelligentsia etc etc. half of them are people saying we don't have to wear masks, there is no such thing as covid. i'm just really fed

up thing as covid. i'm just really fed up that pure old boris is the absolute whipping boy for a 50. what absolute whipping boy for a 50. what about all the — absolute whipping boy for a 50. what about all the people that lost people — about all the people that lost people during covid? if there had been _ people during covid? if there had been one — people during covid? if there had been one of your relatives would you have been— been one of your relatives would you have been happy that boris presided over that _ have been happy that boris presided over that sort of thing and lied all about— over that sort of thing and lied all about it? — over that sort of thing and lied all about it? and all the covid contracts he sold to his cronies and crooks— contracts he sold to his cronies and crooks in— contracts he sold to his cronies and crooks in the — contracts he sold to his cronies and crooks in the high ranks of the tory party? _ crooks in the high ranks of the tory party? i— crooks in the high ranks of the tory .a ? ., �* ., , , party? i wouldn't if it was my family and — party? i wouldn't if it was my family and l— party? i wouldn't if it was my family and i wouldn't - party? i wouldn't if it was my family and i wouldn't anyway| party? i wouldn't if it was my | family and i wouldn't anyway if party? i wouldn't if it was my i family and i wouldn't anyway if i believed it was true. everybody keeps coming, i've seen absolutely no proof coming out of it.— no proof coming out of it. there is an inquiry — no proof coming out of it. there is an inquiry though _ no proof coming out of it. there is an inquiry though will _ no proof coming out of it. there is an inquiry though will stop - an inquiry though will stop everybody says something. covid was a really bad thing. but other countries wearing giving people money and helping them out...

furlough wa5 money and helping them out... furlough was a common thing beyond our own boundaries. don't go anywhere. let's bring in geoffrey in glasgow. anywhere. let's bring in geoffrey in glasuow. ., ., ., glasgow. good morning, how are you. ? there is loads _ glasgow. good morning, how are you. ? there is loads of _ glasgow. good morning, how are you. ? there is loads of things _ glasgow. good morning, how are you. ? there is loads of things people - ? there is loads of things people are saying. _ ? there is loads of things people are saying. we — ? there is loads of things people are saying, we had _ ? there is loads of things people are saying, we had something i ? there is loads of things people i are saying, we had something said about ppe if you minutes ago, something about furlough there, and i'm going to try and coming as little as possible because i want to hear from you, little as possible because i want to hearfrom you, and little as possible because i want to hear from you, and there will be things, listen everybody, there will be things if you're watching and listening that you see and hear that you disagree with, but people that you disagree with, but people that you disagree with also pay the licence fee. go on. we you disagree with also pay the licence fee. go on.— you disagree with also pay the licence fee. go on. we got our own roblems licence fee. go on. we got our own problems appear — licence fee. go on. we got our own problems appear with _ licence fee. go on. we got our own problems appear with nicola - problems appear with nicola sturgeon, so in some ways i can relate to what is going on down south, but i think borisjohnson has

done some good things and bad things. with over he was the first prime minister and around europe to get the bank stream developed and sent around europe, not had a thank you for that. the second thing is, i reckon that our current prime minister has got something to hide because of the... whatsapp messages and... he is prepared to give them to a judge who then will look through it, decide what she wants to take out of the. i think he's been made a scapegoat, basically. there has been a witch hunt. you made a scapegoat, basically. there has been a witch hunt.— has been a witch hunt. you think it is a stitch up? _ has been a witch hunt. you think it is a stitch up? yeah. _

has been a witch hunt. you think it is a stitch up? yeah. can _ has been a witch hunt. you think it is a stitch up? yeah. can i- has been a witch hunt. you think it is a stitch up? yeah. can ijust - is a stitch up? yeah. can i 'ust come backfi is a stitch up? yeah. can i 'ust come back in? i is a stitch up? yeah. can i 'ust come back in? when i is a stitch up? yeah. can ijust come back in? when boris, i is a stitch up? yeah. can ijust i come back in? when boris, when is a stitch up? yeah. can ijust - come back in? when boris, when his conservative — come back in? when boris, when his conservative mps wanted him out, which _ conservative mps wanted him out, which they— conservative mps wanted him out, which they did, then they put liz truss— which they did, then they put liz truss in— which they did, then they put liz truss in charge, with boris losing his position, that cost the country over £72 — his position, that cost the country over £72 billion. think of all the people — over £72 billion. think of all the people that got bigger mortgages and everything else because they could not trust _ everything else because they could not trust borders, richey decided to stab him _ not trust borders, richey decided to stab him in — not trust borders, richey decided to stab him in the back and then dark -- rishi— stab him in the back and then dark —— rishi sunak. we have lost £72 billion. _ —— rishi sunak. we have lost £72 billion. i— —— rishi sunak. we have lost £72 billion. iwill— —— rishi sunak. we have lost £72 billion, i will never forget or forgive _ billion, i will never forget or forgive that.— billion, i will never forget or foruive that. ~ ., , ., forgive that. megan, hi. do you think this was _ forgive that. megan, hi. do you think this was a _ forgive that. megan, hi. do you think this was a kangaroo - forgive that. megan, hi. do you| think this was a kangaroo court? forgive that. megan, hi. do you i think this was a kangaroo court? i suspect it could be, in my opinion. like mac— suspect it could be, in my opinion. like mac that— suspect it could be, in my opinion. like mac that is _ suspect it could be, in my opinion. like mac that is a _ suspect it could be, in my opinion. like mac that is a lovely— suspect it could be, in my opinion. like mac that is a lovely turn - suspect it could be, in my opinion. like mac that is a lovely turn of. like mac that is a lovely turn of phrase —

like mac that is a lovely turn of hrase. , .. like mac that is a lovely turn of hrase. , ., ., , , ., . phrase. they are two very staunch... i know you — phrase. they are two very staunch... i know you are _ phrase. they are two very staunch... i know you are a _ phrase. they are two very staunch... i know you are a remainder, - phrase. they are two very staunch... i know you are a remainder, you - phrase. they are two very staunch... j i know you are a remainder, you said that, but staunch brexiteers on the committee and borisjohnson said a lot of this has been trumped up by people who never accepted the referendums of. do you think he is a liar? i referendums of. do you think he is a liar? ~ .. referendums of. do you think he is a liar? ~ ., ., ., , .,, referendums of. do you think he is a liar? ~ ., ., ., , ., liar? i think a lot of people are actin: liar? i think a lot of people are acting like _ liar? i think a lot of people are acting like naughty _ liar? i think a lot of people are acting like naughty schoolboysj liar? i think a lot of people are - acting like naughty schoolboys and schoolgirls — acting like naughty schoolboys and schoolgirls and _ acting like naughty schoolboys and schoolgirls and tittle _ acting like naughty schoolboys and schoolgirls and tittle tattle - acting like naughty schoolboys and schoolgirls and tittle tattle in - schoolgirls and tittle tattle in total— schoolgirls and tittle tattle in total tattling _ schoolgirls and tittle tattle in total tattling and _ schoolgirls and tittle tattle in total tattling and making - schoolgirls and tittle tattle in total tattling and making it i schoolgirls and tittle tattle in - total tattling and making it bigger until going — total tattling and making it bigger until going to _ total tattling and making it bigger until going to the _ total tattling and making it bigger until going to the dance. - total tattling and making it bigger until going to the dance. there i total tattling and making it bigger until going to the dance. there is| until going to the dance. there is so many— until going to the dance. there is so many things— until going to the dance. there is so many things said _ until going to the dance. there is so many things said and - until going to the dance. there is so many things said and people i until going to the dance. there is i so many things said and people mix up so many things said and people mix up and _ so many things said and people mix up and then— so many things said and people mix up and then they— so many things said and people mix up and then they repeat _ so many things said and people mix up and then they repeat it. - so many things said and people mix up and then they repeat it. i've i up and then they repeat it. i've heard _ up and then they repeat it. i've heard it — up and then they repeat it. i've heard it done. _ up and then they repeat it. i've heard it done.— heard it done. you think it's all blown out _ heard it done. you think it's all blown out of _ heard it done. you think it's all blown out of proportion? i heard it done. you think it's all blown out of proportion? and i heard it done. you think it's all. blown out of proportion? and jay, has it all blown out of proportion? i'll give you a call from david frost, not like a low, good morning, and welcome, david frost who was a close collaborator of borisjohnson who said never the less his nearly

three years in office making the most important prime minister so far this century, the most consequential conservative prime minister since lady thatcher, angie, do you agree? are you there? we've lost angie. and she will be on the way. let's go with david. the way i look at things is, we've had three referendum in the last 12 years and all the politicians, it doesn't matter which postal party, they want to overturn all of them. and coupled with that at the moment we have a prime minister elected by nobody and i think we need to change constitutionally what happens when a prime minister resigns, but we kind

of have a situation where you asked people and then the politicians don't like the outcome.- don't like the outcome. good question. _ don't like the outcome. good question, good _ don't like the outcome. good question, good point. i don't like the outcome. good question, good point. perception. lisa. how are you feeling? absolutely furious, i'm afraid. i have _ absolutely furious, i'm afraid. i have to — absolutely furious, i'm afraid. i have to say, the lady that's just been _ have to say, the lady that's just been speaking on your radio has prompted — been speaking on your radio has prompted me to do something i never do an— prompted me to do something i never do an phone _ prompted me to do something i never do an phone into a radio show, as someone — do an phone into a radio show, as someone who lost both parents to covid _ someone who lost both parents to covid within five days of each other. — covid within five days of each other. i— covid within five days of each other, i find your comments about people _ other, i find your comments about people not— other, i find your comments about people not wearing masks and just going _ people not wearing masks and just going up— people not wearing masks and just going up to boris because he is the greatest _ going up to boris because he is the greatest in — going up to boris because he is the greatest in this country ever did, i find that— greatest in this country ever did, i find that so— greatest in this country ever did, i find that so offensive. i could not io find that so offensive. i could not go to _ find that so offensive. i could not go to my — find that so offensive. i could not go to my parents' funeral, could not be there _ go to my parents' funeral, could not be there when he died, i was furloughed from my hospitalityjob, i followed every rule that was laid out for _ i followed every rule that was laid out for me — i followed every rule that was laid out for me for two years at huge

personal— out for me for two years at huge personal cost, how dare she sit there _ personal cost, how dare she sit there and — personal cost, how dare she sit there and say that this isjust personal cost, how dare she sit there and say that this is just a toddler— there and say that this is just a toddler tantrum and people are just wanting _ toddler tantrum and people are just wanting to get rid of him. they had cheese _ wanting to get rid of him. they had cheese and — wanting to get rid of him. they had cheese and wine parties and brought wine fridges into present when my parents _ wine fridges into present when my parents and my father died on a ventilator— parents and my father died on a ventilator in a london hospital while — ventilator in a london hospital while i— ventilator in a london hospital while i was here in lincolnshire. sorry. _ while i was here in lincolnshire. sorry. i'm — while i was here in lincolnshire. sorry. l'm so _ while i was here in lincolnshire. sorry, i'm so angry about that, i really— sorry, i'm so angry about that, i really am — sorry, i'm so angry about that, i really am— sorry, i'm so angry about that, i reall am. �* ., i. �* really am. i'm here for you, we're here for you. _ really am. i'm here for you, we're here for you, that's _ really am. i'm here for you, we're here for you, that's what - really am. i'm here for you, we're here for you, that's what this i really am. i'm here for you, we're here for you, that's what this all i here for you, that's what this all about. foryou here for you, that's what this all about. for you to say whatever you want. when you hear people say it's all blown out of proportion, everyone was partying and drinking, give them a break, leave them alone, you hear that a lot. when you do hear it, what do you think? $5 i hear it, what do you think? as i sa , it hear it, what do you think? as i say. itjust _ hear it, what do you think? as i say, itjust makes _ hear it, what do you think? as i say, itjust makes me _ hear it, what do you think? as i say, itjust makes me so angry and i -et say, itjust makes me so angry and i get that— say, itjust makes me so angry and i get that people had to let steam off but how _ get that people had to let steam off but how was i able to let off steam when _ but how was i able to let off steam when i _ but how was i able to let off steam when i had — but how was i able to let off steam when i had to watch my parents' coffins _ when i had to watch my parents' coffins being brought into a crematorium in a double funeral on a laptop— crematorium in a double funeral on a laptop hundred and 86 miles away because _ laptop hundred and 86 miles away because took advice and was told to -et because took advice and was told to get an—

because took advice and was told to get an invite for a wedding, you can prove _ get an invite for a wedding, you can prove if— get an invite for a wedding, you can prove if you're travelling across the country that you are going somewhere, you don't get an invite for a _ somewhere, you don't get an invite for a funeral, you could end up getting — for a funeral, you could end up getting fined for breach of covid rules. _ getting fined for breach of covid rules. so— getting fined for breach of covid rules. so i— getting fined for breach of covid rules, so i had to sit here in my bedroom — rules, so i had to sit here in my bedroom and watched both of my parents _ bedroom and watched both of my parents basically be buried on my laptop— parents basically be buried on my laptop like some kind of weird netflix — laptop like some kind of weird netflix show. as i say, i followed all of _ netflix show. as i say, i followed all of the — netflix show. as i say, i followed all of the rules. there is no words to describe — all of the rules. there is no words to describe how angry i am this morning. — to describe how angry i am this morning, the interests of losing both— morning, the interests of losing both my— morning, the interests of losing both my venus like that in the first place _ both my venus like that in the first place and — both my venus like that in the first place and then being forced —— the injustice _ place and then being forced —— the injustice of— place and then being forced —— the injustice of losing both my parents. genuinely— injustice of losing both my parents. genuinely three years down the line i genuinely three years down the line i don't _ genuinely three years down the line i don't think i have grieve properly at idon't think i have grieve properly at all— i don't think i have grieve properly at all yet. — idon't think i have grieve properly at all yet. it— i don't think i have grieve properly at all yet, it all happened hundred and 86 _ at all yet, it all happened hundred and 86 miles away, doesn't feel real. _ and 86 miles away, doesn't feel real. for— and 86 miles away, doesn't feel real, for all i know it may not have happened — real, for all i know it may not have happened but it has but it doesn't feel like _ happened but it has but it doesn't feel like that. sol happened but it has but it doesn't feel like that. so i think some of these _ feel like that. so i think some of these people really need to think about— these people really need to think about the huge human impact on some of the _ about the huge human impact on some of the stories. i'm not the only one that lost— of the stories. i'm not the only one that lost both parents, i know

people — that lost both parents, i know people that lost both their parents within— people that lost both their parents within a _ people that lost both their parents within a couple of hours of each other~ — within a couple of hours of each other~ so — within a couple of hours of each other. so my story isjust within a couple of hours of each other. so my story is just the tip of the _ other. so my story is just the tip of the iceberg. to sit there and put boris _ of the iceberg. to sit there and put borisjohnson on the of the iceberg. to sit there and put boris johnson on the pedestal and saying _ boris johnson on the pedestal and saying we — boris johnson on the pedestal and saying we are having toddler tantrums because he is gone, he is the one _ tantrums because he is gone, he is the one having a toddler tantrum, that little — the one having a toddler tantrum, that little e—mail he sent is classic— that little e—mail he sent is classic of— that little e—mail he sent is classic of his right to rule syndrome. | classic of his right to rule syndrome-— classic of his right to rule s ndrome. ., , ., classic of his right to rule s ndrome. ., syndrome. i am so sorry about your mum and dad- _ syndrome. i am so sorry about your mum and dad. thank _ syndrome. i am so sorry about your mum and dad. thank you. - syndrome. i am so sorry about your mum and dad. thank you. i'm i syndrome. i am so sorry about your mum and dad. thank you. i'm very| mum and dad. thank you. i'm very leased mum and dad. thank you. i'm very pleased to — mum and dad. thank you. i'm very pleased to call. — mum and dad. thank you. i'm very pleased to call, it's _ mum and dad. thank you. i'm very pleased to call, it's always - mum and dad. thank you. i'm very pleased to call, it's always great i pleased to call, it's always great when people have never called a phone and done anything like this before, because we need to reach out to as many people we possibly can, which is what we see today. there is a lot of kind of, oh, hey, boris, there's a lot of that, isn't there? there is. and i get that he was a prime _ there is. and i get that he was a prime minister during what was an incredibly— prime minister during what was an incredibly difficult time, there no

rule book— incredibly difficult time, there no rule book foray, but we expect our elected _ rule book foray, but we expect our elected leaders to behave any certain— elected leaders to behave any certain way with honesty integrity, and i_ certain way with honesty integrity, and i say _ certain way with honesty integrity, and i say this as someone who is a floating _ and i say this as someone who is a floating voter, casual observer, i think— floating voter, casual observer, i thinkthe— floating voter, casual observer, i think the majority of those, the so-called — think the majority of those, the so—called silent majority that don't pay but _ so—called silent majority that don't pay but very often can pretty much say he _ pay but very often can pretty much say he is _ pay but very often can pretty much say he is an— pay but very often can pretty much say he is an absolute liar, he is 100% _ say he is an absolute liar, he is 100% convinced he has a right to rule on _ 100% convinced he has a right to rule on no — 100% convinced he has a right to rule on no one has the right to disagree — rule on no one has the right to disagree with him, and he has no place _ disagree with him, and he has no place at — disagree with him, and he has no place at all— disagree with him, and he has no place at all in british politics. if you want— place at all in british politics. if you want to get the likes of people like me _ you want to get the likes of people like me, and the silent voters to -et like me, and the silent voters to get out — like me, and the silent voters to get out there and vote, and increase the number— get out there and vote, and increase the number of people that turn up to vote in— the number of people that turn up to vote in this _ the number of people that turn up to vote in this country, you've got to have _ vote in this country, you've got to have people they can look up to and respect. _ have people they can look up to and respect, and he isn't one of them. there _ respect, and he isn't one of them. there was— respect, and he isn't one of them. there was an _ respect, and he isn't one of them. there was an allusion to die in rishi sunak�*s first lines of his speech this morning, do you trust the people in government? megan, i

won't a5k the people in government? megan, i won't ask you to address the extremely difficult question but i do want to ask you one more in just the second, i'vejust do want to ask you one more in just the second, i've just looked at the clock and we are approaching the ten o'clock news, so busy. i lost the plot there for a second listening to that very powerful call. thank you very much for getting in touch with us, lisa. iwilla5k very much for getting in touch with us, lisa. i will ask megan another question and i will hear from you, maybe you've never called a radio station before, maybe you've never done anything like this, getting in touch, it would be great to hear from you. we want to get as many voices on and we are going to go zero to 11 o'clock on this one, so there's still time and the question is about borisjohnson, do you want him gone? rishi sunak made a speech earlier. eventually, there was a question to

him about artificial intelligence. to some people, borisjohnson is a superficial character who never should have been anywhere near number ten downing street. he has brought disrepute to the office and nothing but trouble the country. others say this unique, election winning man had the charisma to be able to do it again and maybe he will come back one day. others say he is a great prime minister. a5 will come back one day. others say he is a great prime minister. as i said, lord frost said he was comparable to churchill. you hear that a lot. comparable to thatcher, you hear that a lot. it is not something anyone is going to change their mind on, but we want to hear from you, 08085 909693 and text on 85058. he has neither principles nor personal convictions, says max hastings, 5ave personal convictions, says max hastings, save his own ambitions and desires. lord frost says he is the

most consequential conservative prime minister since lady thatcher. what do you think? get in touch. this is the bbc. some people say it is a boris bashing cabal. that is unfair, this is what everyone is talking about and we are giving you the chance to defend. you have that platform and borisjohnson has many people who still admire him. he was the news from bethan holmes. mp5 are expected to finish their investigation today into whether borisjohnson misled parliament about lockdown parties at downing street. mrjohnson resigned on friday — calling the committee a "kangaroo court" after seeing an advanced copy of the report.

the 11—year—old girl from a british family who was shot dead in her garden in france has been named as solaine. her parents — both british — are in hospital. the family's second daughter was unharmed. a local prosecutor says there appeared to have been a long—running neighbour dispute. a 71—year—old dutchman has been arrested. scotland's first minister — humza yousaf — is facing pressure to suspend his predecessor nicola sturgeon from the snp after she was arrested. m5 sturgeon was questioned as part of a police investigation into the party's finances. she was later released without charge and insists she's "innocent of any wrongdoing". the former italian prime minister silvio berlusconi has died at the age of 86. he served as pm three times between 1994 and 2011.

megan is a staunch defender, that is why it is so important to hear from all voices. i was going to ask you a question. are you ready for the question? i question. are you ready for the ruestion? .. question. are you ready for the question?- why _ question. are you ready for the question?- why do i question. are you ready for the question?- why do so i question. are you ready for the question? i am. why do so many --eole in question? i am. why do so many people in his _ question? i am. why do so many people in his own _ question? i am. why do so many people in his own party, - question? i —n why do so many people in his own party, obviously not all, but why do so many of his own mp5 refused to serve under him, why were there all those ministerial resignations? why do so many in his own party loath the ground he walks on? .. own party loath the ground he walks on? ., . ., �* own party loath the ground he walks on? ., �* .,, own party loath the ground he walks on? ., .,, . , ., on? that, i can't answer. why do the ? on? that, i can't answer. why do they? what _ on? that, i can't answer. why do they? what is — on? that, i can't answer. why do they? what is their _ on? that, i can't answer. why do they? what is their reason i on? that, i can't answer. why do they? what is their reason for i on? that, i can't answer. why do i they? what is their reason for being like it? that is what i ask myself. i will never find the answer out.

what that man has done as far as i'm concerned is amazing. he is another churchill—like character. he definitely doe5 churchill—like character. he definitely does have charisma. it seems like he is the tallest poppy— chop its head off. i think he was to to tour a puppy. tall chop its head off. i think he was to to tour a puppy-— to tour a puppy. tall poppy syndrome- _ to tour a puppy. tall poppy syndrome. in _ to tour a puppy. tall poppy syndrome. in life _ to tour a puppy. tall poppy syndrome. in life you i to tour a puppy. tall poppy | syndrome. in life you make to tour a puppy. tall poppy _ syndrome. in life you make enemies, and have the — syndrome. in life you make enemies, and have the time, _ syndrome. in life you make enemies, and have the time, given _ syndrome. in life you make enemies, and have the time, given half - syndrome. in life you make enemies, and have the time, given half a i and have the time, given half a chance, they were slide behind your back and stab you in the back, metaphorically, of course. so why shouldn't he have the same people around him? you see it in offices and factories and things. people do gang up and factories and things. people do gang up against somebody that they think is getting all the attention. thank you very much. here is another megan, in the isle of wight. that was megan in the isle of wight! wa5 megan in the isle of wight! myriad megans. we have got david in

bristol and andy in birmingham and claire parasol, a political commentator and former 5pads to the minister of immigration. david, what do you think? flan minister of immigration. david, what do you think?— do you think? can you hear me? my mobile signal _ do you think? can you hear me? my mobile signal is _ do you think? can you hear me? my mobile signal is a _ do you think? can you hear me? my mobile signal is a bit _ do you think? can you hear me? my mobile signal is a bit dodgy. i i mobile signal is a bit dodgy. i believe there are a lot of people who can't forgive him for winning the brexit vote. they are bitter and that crosses all political divides. slowly but surely, they want to get rid of him, and they have done that. they are also getting rid of all his allies. and i think it's quite scary, because the country voted

unanimously for brexit, whether that was right or not. i voted for brexit and we now hear people like heseltine saying what an idiot he is. i have heard people saying anybody who voted for brexit is an idiot. even friends of mine, and i think we have to be able to beg to differ. i think it's a real shame that the media, and i'm afraid i have to say i think the bbc are just as guilty as the rest, were supporters of being in the european union and they haven't been able to forgive him either. they have made it common to criticise borisjohnson

for the fact that he won the vote on the day. for the fact that he won the vote on the da . . ., , ., . the day. have i not been balance this morning? — the day. have i not been balance this morning? pardon? - the day. have i not been balance this morning? pardon? have - the day. have i not been balance this morning? pardon? have i. the day. have i not been balance | this morning? pardon? have i not been balanced, _ this morning? pardon? have i not been balanced, put _ this morning? pardon? have i not been balanced, put all— this morning? pardon? have i not been balanced, put all the - this morning? pardon? have i not been balanced, put all the points| been balanced, put all the points forward? i’m been balanced, put all the points forward? �* ., , been balanced, put all the points forward? ., , , ., forward? i'm not being personal. it's what we _ forward? i'm not being personal. it's what we try _ forward? i'm not being personal. it's what we try and _ forward? i'm not being personal. it's what we try and do, - forward? i'm not being personal. it's what we try and do, and - forward? i'm not being personal. it's what we try and do, and this | forward? i'm not being personal. | it's what we try and do, and this is a big story and we try and give all sides and opportunity. we havejust lost david. i want to get him back. angie in birmingham?— lost david. i want to get him back. angie in birmingham? hello, nicky. first of all. — angie in birmingham? hello, nicky. first of all, stop _ angie in birmingham? hello, nicky. first of all, stop calling _ angie in birmingham? hello, nicky. first of all, stop calling johnson - first of all, stop calling johnson by his first name all the time. did i? well, by his first name all the time. did i? well. peeple — by his first name all the time. did i? well, people do _ by his first name all the time. did i? well, people do so _ by his first name all the time. did i? well, people do so boris - by his first name all the time. did i? well, people do so boris as - by his first name all the time. did i? well, people do so boris as if i by his first name all the time. did i i? well, people do so boris as if he is some kind _ i? well, people do so boris as if he is some kind of _ i? well, people do so boris as if he is some kind of pathetic _ i? well, people do so boris as if he is some kind of pathetic schoolboy. he is not your mate. he is only interested in what he can get for himself. he has surrounded himself with sycophants to bolster his ego,

with sycophants to bolster his ego, with not a serious idea amongst them. and unfortunately, to achieve this pathetic brexit which your other caller was talking about, he tapped into the english weak spot, racism, to achieve it. i have no time for him at all. he canjust racism, to achieve it. i have no time for him at all. he can just go, and don't come back. time for him at all. he can 'ust go, and don't come backh time for him at all. he can 'ust go, and don't come back. people who vote for brexit did — and don't come back. people who vote for brexit did not _ and don't come back. people who vote for brexit did not want _ and don't come back. people who vote for brexit did not want to _ and don't come back. people who vote for brexit did not want to be _ and don't come back. people who vote for brexit did not want to be tied - for brexit did not want to be tied to a superstate. david's point was well made — there are people who voted for brexit who did not have a racist bone in their body and they are sick of being called stupid. his contention is that there is a kind of self—satisfied, smug political class who look down on anyone who votes brexit. can you see why people like david are angry about that? mat

like david are angry about that? not reall , like david are angry about that? iirrt really, because they voted for it. that is the point of voting for something. if you vote for something, you expect it, but don't start blaming other people for you voted for. , , ., start blaming other people for you voted for. , ,., ., voted for. others will point out that sir bernard _ voted for. others will point out that sir bernard jenkin - voted for. others will point out that sir bernard jenkin is, - voted for. others will point out i that sir bernard jenkin is, without being pejorative, a very enthusiastic brexiteer. i prefer brexiteer to brexiter. he brexiteer to brexiter. whatever! he was on the privileges _ brexiteer to brexiter. whatever! he was on the privileges committee i brexiteer to brexiter. whatever! he l was on the privileges committee and he was excoriating in his inquisition of borisjohnson. thank you, and g. sarah in a veil? hi. you, and g. sarah in a veil? hi, nic . you, and g. sarah in a veil? hi, nicky- i'm _ you, and g. sarah in a veil? hi, nicky- i'm trying _ you, and g. sarah in a veil? hi, nicky. i'm trying to _ you, and g. sarah in a veil? hi, nicky. i'm trying to get - you, and g. sarah in a veil? hi, nicky. i'm trying to get voices l you, and g. sarah in a veil? hi, - nicky. i'm trying to get voices from as many places _ nicky. i'm trying to get voices from as many places as _ nicky. i'm trying to get voices from as many places as i _ nicky. i'm trying to get voices from as many places as i can. _ nicky. i'm trying to get voices from as many places as i can. what - nicky. i'm trying to get voices from as many places as i can. what do i nicky. i'm trying to get voices from l as many places as i can. what do you want to say?— want to say? during lockdown, my husband was _ want to say? during lockdown, my husband was in _ husband was in hospitalfor three months. it wasn't covid—related. but something went wrong and he ended up

in intensive care on a ventilator. extremely ill, and i was only allowed to visit him once a week. i saw him twice in intensive care. he was in intensive care for nine days. and it'sjust was in intensive care for nine days. and it's just the was in intensive care for nine days. and it'sjust the hypocrisy. i cannot forgive him for that. and like your previous caller, i cannot forgive what he has done. he just didn't stick to the rules. he was asking us to stay at home. we were all doing our bit. and all the other people who say, oh, well, you can't blame him for this, unless you have gone through something like this where you can't see a loved one in

hospital when they are extremely ill and maybe not expected to live, it's awful. i was sat outside waiting to see my husband and i watched a consultant tell a young family that the father wasn't going to survive covid. it was in a waiting room that way they were told because there was no space for them to take them somewhere private. i have to take my hat off to the nhs, but he has to go. i get so upset and angry that so many people suffered. i could have a modicum of respect for him if he had stuck to the rules, but he didn't. it's just awful, what he has done. i cannot forgive him at all. i’m it'sjust awful, what he has done. i

cannot forgive him at all.— cannot forgive him at all. i'm 'ust thinkina cannot forgive him at all. i'm 'ust thinking of — cannot forgive him at all. i'm 'ust thinking of that image * cannot forgive him at all. i'm 'ust thinking of that image of i cannot forgive him at all. i'm 'ust thinking of that image of the h cannot forgive him at all. i'm just l thinking of that image of the family who were told that the father would not survive. he who were told that the father would not survive-— not survive. he was 31 years old, this au . not survive. he was 31 years old, this guy- i _ not survive. he was 31 years old, this guy. i heard _ not survive. he was 31 years old, this guy. i heard everything. - not survive. he was 31 years old, this guy. i heard everything. i. this guy. i heard everything. i wasn't actually in the waiting room, i sat outside the receptionist�*s desk, but i heard the whole conversation. this 31—year—old guy, his partner and young children were there and she had the support of anotherfamily member. she there and she had the support of another family member. she was crying. she had hope that he would survive and in the end, they had to be brutally honest and say unfortunately, he was not going to survive the infection. and watching that, i mean, it traumatised me and i was just that, i mean, it traumatised me and i wasjust a that, i mean, it traumatised me and i was just a witness. ijust had a little snapshot.

i wasjust a witness. i 'ust had a little snapshoth i wasjust a witness. i 'ust had a little snapshot. and when you see someone on _ little snapshot. and when you see someone on the _ little snapshot. and when you see someone on the television, - little snapshot. and when you see someone on the television, when | little snapshot. and when you see . someone on the television, when you see borisjohnson on television, what is your reaction, given what you are saying now?— what is your reaction, given what you are saying now? nicky, it's not reiaeatahle- — you are saying now? nicky, it's not repeatable. he _ you are saying now? nicky, it's not repeatable. he has— you are saying now? nicky, it's not repeatable. he has previously - you are saying now? nicky, it's not repeatable. he has previously lied. he is a man that is constantly unfaithful to his wives. if that isn't proof that he is a liar, i don't know. all my respect for any politician is gone. like i said, i would have had respect for him if he stuck to the rules, he didn't. and there are plenty of people in the

country who blame him for it. thank ou ve country who blame him for it. thank you very much- _ country who blame him for it. thank you very much. wow, _ country who blame him for it. thank you very much. wow, sarah - country who blame him for it. thank you very much. wow, sarah from i country who blame him for it. thank you very much. wow, sarah from ebbw vale. others will point out that private life and political life are separate things and if you cancelled some of the politicians who have been cavalier with fidelity in their private lives, you would lose a lot of talented and eat park making politicians. i'm not saying that necessarily applies to boris johnson, ijust want necessarily applies to boris johnson, i just want to put that caveat in —— epoch making politicians. claire, political commentator, hearing from sarah, that sums up what many think. yeah, and it's difficult _ that sums up what many think. yeah, and it's difficult to _ that sums up what many think. yeah, and it's difficult to follow _ that sums up what many think. yeah, and it's difficult to follow such - that sums up what many think. yeah, and it's difficult to follow such a i and it's difficult to follow such a personal — and it's difficult to follow such a personal speech. it highlights how angry— personal speech. it highlights how angry the — personal speech. it highlights how angry the public are. they aren't going _ angry the public are. they aren't going to — angry the public are. they aren't

going to forgive and forget as easilx — going to forgive and forget as easily. this is damage people's lives _ easily. this is damage people's lives. borisjohnson has set out his own agenda — lives. borisjohnson has set out his own agenda by resigning on friday. he decided to take care of the narrative _ he decided to take care of the narrative himself and provide what history— narrative himself and provide what history he — narrative himself and provide what history he wanted people to read. it makes _ history he wanted people to read. it makes a _ history he wanted people to read. it makes a mockery of the system we are in that— makes a mockery of the system we are in that on— makes a mockery of the system we are in that on a _ makes a mockery of the system we are in that on a friday evening, he can 'ust in that on a friday evening, he can just decide, — in that on a friday evening, he can just decide, i— in that on a friday evening, he can just decide, i have had enough, doesn't — just decide, i have had enough, doesn't need to let the public decide, — doesn't need to let the public decide, he is going to resign as an mp and _ decide, he is going to resign as an mp and bring his mates with him. this is— mp and bring his mates with him. this isjust — mp and bring his mates with him. this isjust deep stabilising —— destabilising the conservative party further~ _ destabilising the conservative party further~ it— destabilising the conservative party further. it is incredibly selfish and i— further. it is incredibly selfish and i am _ further. it is incredibly selfish and i am not surprised. let further. it is incredibly selfish and i am not surprised. let me ask ou about and i am not surprised. let me ask you about the _ and i am not surprised. let me ask you about the resignation - and i am not surprised. let me ask you about the resignation honours| you about the resignation honours list. some of the people on it sticks in the craw of a lot of people. martin reynolds, his former principal private secretary. he played a key role in the bring your

own booze party. he has been awarded a companion of the bath. and also someone called jack doyle, he gave a cbe to him. he is the former director of communications, and a peerage for his chief of staff, dan rosenfeld. both of them were in office during the party get rule breaking. and also charlotte allen, former adviser to mrjohnson, who is 29. graduated in 2015, becomes the youngest ever life peer. congratulations to her, but a lot of people are asking why. what do you make of that list? i people are asking why. what do you make of that list?— make of that list? i don't think there should _ make of that list? i don't think there should be _ make of that list? i don't think there should be resignation i make of that list? i don't think i there should be resignation honours lists anyway. this isjust there should be resignation honours lists anyway. this is just an opportunity for a former prime minister— opportunity for a former prime minister to reward their friends. to put somebody in the house of lords at the _ put somebody in the house of lords at the age _ put somebody in the house of lords at the age of 29 with no real relevant _ at the age of 29 with no real relevant experience is not what the house _ relevant experience is not what the house of _ relevant experience is not what the house of lords needs. i would argue

that it _ house of lords needs. i would argue that it does — house of lords needs. i would argue that it does need younger people in their to _ that it does need younger people in their to make that it does need younger people in theirto make it that it does need younger people in their to make it a that it does need younger people in theirto make it a bit that it does need younger people in their to make it a bit more varied and have — their to make it a bit more varied and have a — their to make it a bit more varied and have a bigger demographic, but it also— and have a bigger demographic, but it also needs people with experience in certain— it also needs people with experience in certain areas, whether it be business. _ in certain areas, whether it be business, health, media. you need to look at _ business, health, media. you need to look at the _ business, health, media. you need to look at the credibility of the individual going in. the list is going — individual going in. the list is going to _ individual going in. the list is going to angera individual going in. the list is going to anger a lot of people when you took— going to anger a lot of people when you took at— going to anger a lot of people when you look at people who have been involved _ you look at people who have been involved in — you look at people who have been involved in partygate, whether they have wielded a case of booze or putting — have wielded a case of booze or putting the birthday cake that brings— putting the birthday cake that brings everything together. ijust feel it _ brings everything together. ijust feel it sends the wrong message that you can _ feel it sends the wrong message that you can be _ feel it sends the wrong message that you can be rewarded for not doing a pa rticuta rty — you can be rewarded for not doing a particularly good job, but you get one of— particularly good job, but you get one of the — particularly good job, but you get one of the highest honours in the country — one of the highest honours in the country. that should be reserved for those _ country. that should be reserved for those people who deserve it. look at the locat— those people who deserve it. look at the local elections, where we have lost some — the local elections, where we have lost some really experienced council leaders _ lost some really experienced council leaders with two or three decades' worth— leaders with two or three decades' worth of— leaders with two or three decades' worth of experience. they would be better— worth of experience. they would be better in _ worth of experience. they would be better in that system than some who have worked in number ten. it�*s

better in that system than some who have worked in number ten.- have worked in number ten. it's an interesting — have worked in number ten. it's an interesting list. _ have worked in number ten. it's an interesting list. jenny _ have worked in number ten. it's an interesting list. jenny in _ have worked in number ten. it's an interesting list. jenny in yeoville, l interesting list. jenny in yeoville, a quick one from you and then charlie in rowley, former adviser to michael gove. jenny, what do you make of this? i michael gove. jenny, what do you make of this?— michael gove. jenny, what do you make of this? i am so angry, 'ust a warninu. make of this? i am so angry, 'ust a warning. ? — make of this? i am so angry, 'ust a warning. ? people i make of this? i am so angry, 'ust a warning. ? people stilli make of this? i am so angry, 'ust a warning. ? people still thinki make of this? i am so angry, just a warning. ? people still think he i make of this? i am so angry, just a warning. ? people still think he is i warning. ? people stillthink he is wonderful and put him on a pedestal. my wonderful and put him on a pedestal. my background is, i am self—employed and i was one of the 3 million didn't get any help. i had the worst year of my life, part of excluded uk. their facebook page was the only thing that kept us going. we had many suicides, people losing their whole lives because they had no

financial help from the government. so this morning, i am angry. we had people who lost their homes, their marriages, businesses. people are now in debt because of not being looked after. half the country was looked after. half the country was looked after. half the country was looked after and half the country wasn't, and i am still waving the flag for excluded uk. personally, if i hadn't had my dad, it financially ruined me. iam i hadn't had my dad, it financially ruined me. i am onlyjust getting back on my feet. so good riddance to him. and the rest of them. come the next general election, i want all of them out of a job, rishi sunak as well. j

them out of a 'ob, rishi sunak as well. ., them out of a 'ob, rishi sunak as well. . ., , , . well. i want to bring sophia in while you _ well. i want to bring sophia in while you are _ well. i want to bring sophia in while you are there. - well. i want to bring sophia in while you are there. where i well. i want to bring sophia in i while you are there. where there is imbalance, we bring balance. sophia in central london, why would you like him back? i in central london, why would you like him back?— like him back? i would like him back. he like him back? i would like him back- he is— like him back? i would like him back. he is the _ like him back? i would like him back. he is the only _ like him back? i would like him back. he is the only one - like him back? i would like him back. he is the only one who . like him back? i would like him i back. he is the only one who has got any balls. who else would have saved us with vaccines with his team? i spent three months in my living room. i am spent three months in my living room. iam immune spent three months in my living room. i am immune suppressed. spent three months in my living room. iam immune suppressed. i spent three months in my living room. i am immune suppressed. i was terrified. i am grateful to him that the vaccine. he terrified. i am grateful to him that the vaccine-— the vaccine. he didn't invent the vaccine, the vaccine. he didn't invent the vaccine. he _ the vaccine. he didn't invent the vaccine, he wasn't _ the vaccine. he didn't invent the vaccine, he wasn't the _ the vaccine. he didn't invent the vaccine, he wasn't the one i the vaccine. he didn't invent the vaccine, he wasn't the one who i vaccine, he wasn't the one who brought— vaccine, he wasn't the one who brought it — vaccine, he wasn't the one who brought it to us. it would have happened _ brought it to us. it would have happened anyway. he wasjust brought it to us. it would have happened anyway. he was just lucky. i don't _ happened anyway. he was just lucky. idon't think— happened anyway. he was just lucky. i don't think he had any talent. surrey, — i don't think he had any talent. surrey, who are you? i was talking

to nicky. surrey, who are you? i was talking to nic . �* . ., to nicky. i'm getting a conversation with the two _ to nicky. i'm getting a conversation with the two of— to nicky. i'm getting a conversation with the two of you _ to nicky. i'm getting a conversation with the two of you because - to nicky. i'm getting a conversation with the two of you because i'm i with the two of you because i'm attempting not to involve myself too much. ~ �* ,.. , attempting not to involve myself too much. ~ �* , , much. well, i'm sorry, but! disagree — much. well, i'm sorry, but! disagree with _ much. well, i'm sorry, but! disagree with people - much. well, i'm sorry, but i i disagree with people following the media who are going on and on about party —— partygate. i lost people to suicide and cancer. i have a broken arm and i'm in my flat right now. i had a particularly difficult time. but i do think there is nobody else and i totally disagree with previous callers, because who else has got the courage to run this country? we

have got the worst mayor we have ever had, in my opinion. who else is going to have the strength to get us through difficult times? right now, we are after a pandemic. people seem to forget we have been through a pandemic and that we should not focus on partygate. we are also at war with russia. i am part russian ukrainian. this is enough. people wittering on about phillip schofield and all these things, we need boris back because he is respected by fellow politicians around the world. he speaks eight languages. he knows his stuff. he is a very well educated man. much as i like rishi sunak, he hasn't got the experience. nicky, 75% of the public don't want

him back — nicky, 75% of the public don't want him back it — nicky, 75% of the public don't want him back. it was in a poll over the weekend — him back. it was in a poll over the weekend. �* , , ., , weekend. because they are believing all the media — weekend. because they are believing all the media stuff, _ weekend. because they are believing all the media stuff, that's _ weekend. because they are believing all the media stuff, that's why. i weekend. because they are believing all the media stuff, that's why. did . all the media stuff, that's why. did ou all the media stuff, that's why. did you listen to my conversation when i came _ you listen to my conversation when i came on? _ you listen to my conversation when i came on? i— you listen to my conversation when i came on? i have experience. 3 million — came on? i have experience. 3 million of— came on? i have experience. 3 million of us didn't get any help. well, _ million of us didn't get any help. well, i_ million of us didn't get any help. well, i didn't either. i'm an artist. ., , well, i didn't either. i'm an artist. , , artist. please can you 'ust listen? i 'ust artist. please can you 'ust listen? liust said... * artist. please can you 'ust listen? liustsaid--- it artist. please can you 'ust listen? ijust said... i don't i artist. please can you just listen? ijust said... i don't know - artist. please can you just listen? ijust said... i don't know the i ijust said... i don't know the actual— ijust said... i don't know the actual number and i don't want to know— actual number and i don't want to know because it terrifies me too much. _ know because it terrifies me too much, but — know because it terrifies me too much, but i _ know because it terrifies me too much, but i was part of excluded uk, and over— much, but i was part of excluded uk, and over 25_ much, but i was part of excluded uk, and over 25 people committed suicide because _ and over 25 people committed suicide because they didn't have any help. we were _ because they didn't have any help. we were ignored. he ignored us. |

we were ignored. he ignored us. disagree. we were ignored. he ignored us. i disagree- 0k. _ we were ignored. he ignored us. i disagree. ok, allow— we were ignored. he ignored us. i disagree. ok, allow me _ we were ignored. he ignored us. i disagree. ok, allow me to - we were ignored. he ignored us. i disagree. ok, allow me to bring . we were ignored. he ignored us. ij disagree. ok, allow me to bring in charlie and — disagree. ok, allow me to bring in charlie and anne _ disagree. ok, allow me to bring in charlie and anne catherine - disagree. ok, allow me to bring in charlie and anne catherine in i charlie and anne catherine in newquay. charlie rowley, former special adviser to michael gove. charlie, as ever, when we discuss this politician, this phenomenon, as many would have it, there are polarised views, but also many issues coming into play. if he finished? —— is he finished? whatever side of the fence you are on with— whatever side of the fence you are on with boris— whatever side of the fence you are on with boris johnson, _ whatever side of the fence you are on with boris johnson, the - whatever side of the fence you are on with borisjohnson, the one i whatever side of the fence you are i on with borisjohnson, the one thing you can't_ on with borisjohnson, the one thing you can't do— on with borisjohnson, the one thing you can't do is— on with borisjohnson, the one thing you can't do is write _ on with borisjohnson, the one thing you can't do is write him _ on with borisjohnson, the one thing you can't do is write him off, - on with borisjohnson, the one thing you can't do is write him off, i'm - you can't do is write him off, i'm afraid _ you can't do is write him off, i'm afraid he — you can't do is write him off, i'm afraid he is_ you can't do is write him off, i'm afraid. he is someone _ you can't do is write him off, i'm afraid. he is someone who - you can't do is write him off, i'm afraid. he is someone who has l you can't do is write him off, i'm - afraid. he is someone who has made comebacks _ afraid. he is someone who has made comebacks and — afraid. he is someone who has made comebacks and listen _ afraid. he is someone who has made comebacks and listen to _ afraid. he is someone who has made comebacks and listen to that - comebacks and listen to that conversation, _ comebacks and listen to that conversation, it— comebacks and listen to that conversation, it is— comebacks and listen to that conversation, it is clear- comebacks and listen to that conversation, it is clear thatl comebacks and listen to that - conversation, it is clear that there are some — conversation, it is clear that there are some people _ conversation, it is clear that there are some people who _ conversation, it is clear that there are some people who still- conversation, it is clear that there are some people who still very- conversation, it is clear that there i are some people who still very much hold him _ are some people who still very much hold him in_ are some people who still very much hold him in high— are some people who still very much hold him in high regard _ are some people who still very much hold him in high regard and - are some people who still very much hold him in high regard and people l hold him in high regard and people who are _ hold him in high regard and people who are keen— hold him in high regard and people who are keen to _ hold him in high regard and people who are keen to see _ hold him in high regard and people who are keen to see the _ hold him in high regard and people who are keen to see the back - hold him in high regard and people who are keen to see the back of i hold him in high regard and people . who are keen to see the back of him.

you can— who are keen to see the back of him. you can never— who are keen to see the back of him. you can never say— who are keen to see the back of him. you can never say never. _ who are keen to see the back of him. you can never say never. his - you can never say never. his resignation — you can never say never. his resignation statement - you can never say never. hisi resignation statement meant, you can never say never. his - resignation statement meant, he did say he _ resignation statement meant, he did say he was _ resignation statement meant, he did say he was leaving _ resignation statement meant, he did say he was leaving parliament - resignation statement meant, he did say he was leaving parliament for- say he was leaving parliament for now, _ say he was leaving parliament for now. which — say he was leaving parliament for now, which does _ say he was leaving parliament for now, which does lead _ say he was leaving parliament for now, which does lead us- say he was leaving parliament for now, which does lead us to - say he was leaving parliament for. now, which does lead us to wonder whether— now, which does lead us to wonder whether he — now, which does lead us to wonder whether he wants _ now, which does lead us to wonder whether he wants to _ now, which does lead us to wonder whether he wants to come - now, which does lead us to wonder whether he wants to come back. i now, which does lead us to wonderi whether he wants to come back. he has left _ whether he wants to come back. he has left the — whether he wants to come back. he has left the door— whether he wants to come back. he has left the door open _ whether he wants to come back. he has left the door open for— whether he wants to come back. he has left the door open for that - has left the door open for that possibility _ has left the door open for that possibility. but _ has left the door open for that possibility. but listening - has left the door open for that possibility. but listening to . has left the door open for thatl possibility. but listening to the calls, _ possibility. but listening to the calls, it — possibility. but listening to the calls, it strikes _ possibility. but listening to the calls, it strikes me _ possibility. but listening to the calls, it strikes me that - possibility. but listening to the calls, it strikes me that at - possibility. but listening to the calls, it strikes me that at the i calls, it strikes me that at the heart — calls, it strikes me that at the heart of— calls, it strikes me that at the heart of this _ calls, it strikes me that at the heart of this is _ calls, it strikes me that at the heart of this is trust. - calls, it strikes me that at the heart of this is trust. when i calls, it strikes me that at the heart of this is trust. when iti calls, it strikes me that at the - heart of this is trust. when it came to partygate, — heart of this is trust. when it came to partygate, i— heart of this is trust. when it came to partygate, i was _ heart of this is trust. when it came to partygate, i was in _ heart of this is trust. when it came to partygate, i was in the - heart of this is trust. when it came to partygate, i was in the cabinet i to partygate, i was in the cabinet office _ to partygate, i was in the cabinet office at — to partygate, i was in the cabinet office at the _ to partygate, i was in the cabinet office at the time _ to partygate, i was in the cabinet office at the time and _ to partygate, i was in the cabinet office at the time and played - to partygate, i was in the cabinet office at the time and played by. to partygate, i was in the cabinet. office at the time and played by the rules and _ office at the time and played by the rules and not— office at the time and played by the rules and not only _ office at the time and played by the rules and not only did _ office at the time and played by the rules and not only did boris - office at the time and played by the rules and not only did boris johnson and who— rules and not only did boris johnson and who set— rules and not only did boris johnson and who set the _ rules and not only did boris johnson and who set the rules, _ rules and not only did boris johnson and who set the rules, but - rules and not only did boris johnson and who set the rules, but a - rules and not only did boris johnson and who set the rules, but a lot - rules and not only did boris johnson and who set the rules, but a lot of. and who set the rules, but a lot of other— and who set the rules, but a lot of other people — and who set the rules, but a lot of other people in _ and who set the rules, but a lot of other people in number— and who set the rules, but a lot of other people in number ten - and who set the rules, but a lot of other people in number ten who. and who set the rules, but a lot of- other people in number ten who have been rewarded, — other people in number ten who have been rewarded, and _ other people in number ten who have been rewarded, and i— other people in number ten who have been rewarded, and i had _ other people in number ten who have been rewarded, and i had the - been rewarded, and i had the conversation _ been rewarded, and i had the conversation with— been rewarded, and i had the conversation with claire - been rewarded, and i had the i conversation with claire pearsall earlier, — conversation with claire pearsall earlier, who _ conversation with claire pearsall earlier, who is _ conversation with claire pearsall earlier, who is right— conversation with claire pearsall earlier, who is right in— conversation with claire pearsall earlier, who is right in what- conversation with claire pearsall earlier, who is right in what she| earlier, who is right in what she says. _ earlier, who is right in what she says. people _ earlier, who is right in what she says. people have _ earlier, who is right in what she says, people have been- earlier, who is right in what she i says, people have been rewarded earlier, who is right in what she - says, people have been rewarded for failure _ says, people have been rewarded for failure that — says, people have been rewarded for failure that is — says, people have been rewarded for failure. that is bad _ says, people have been rewarded for failure. that is bad politics. - says, people have been rewarded for failure. that is bad politics. it - says, people have been rewarded for failure. that is bad politics. it is - failure. that is bad politics. it is bad for— failure. that is bad politics. it is bad for trust _ failure. that is bad politics. it is bad for trust in _ failure. that is bad politics. it is bad for trust in this _ failure. that is bad politics. it is bad for trust in this country- failure. that is bad politics. it is bad for trust in this country and| bad for trust in this country and that has— bad for trust in this country and that has clearly— bad for trust in this country and that has clearly resonated - bad for trust in this country and that has clearly resonated with| bad for trust in this country and| that has clearly resonated with a lot of— that has clearly resonated with a lot of people _ that has clearly resonated with a lot of people and _ that has clearly resonated with a lot of people and done _ that has clearly resonated with a lot of people and done a - that has clearly resonated with a lot of people and done a lot - that has clearly resonated with a lot of people and done a lot of. lot of people and done a lot of damage — lot of people and done a lot of damage but _ lot of people and done a lot of damage. but having _ lot of people and done a lot of

damage. but having said - lot of people and done a lot of damage. but having said that, lot of people and done a lot of- damage. but having said that, the reason _ damage. but having said that, the reason why— damage. but having said that, the reason why there _ damage. but having said that, the reason why there is _ damage. but having said that, the reason why there is still _ damage. but having said that, the reason why there is still affection i reason why there is still affection and a _ reason why there is still affection and a yearning _ reason why there is still affection and a yearning for— reason why there is still affection and a yearning for boris - reason why there is still affection and a yearning for boris johnsoni reason why there is still affection i and a yearning for boris johnson to still be _ and a yearning for boris johnson to still be part— and a yearning for boris johnson to still be part of— and a yearning for boris johnson to still be part of the _ and a yearning for boris johnson to still be part of the national- still be part of the national political— still be part of the national political picture _ still be part of the national political picture is - still be part of the national political picture is because| still be part of the national. political picture is because he still be part of the national- political picture is because he is unique — political picture is because he is unique he _ political picture is because he is unique. he has _ political picture is because he is unique. he has been _ political picture is because he is unique. he has been able - political picture is because he is unique. he has been able to- political picture is because he is. unique. he has been able to reach parts _ unique. he has been able to reach parts of— unique. he has been able to reach parts of the — unique. he has been able to reach parts of the country _ unique. he has been able to reach parts of the country that _ unique. he has been able to reach parts of the country that nobody. parts of the country that nobody else could _ parts of the country that nobody else could. there _ parts of the country that nobody else could. there are _ parts of the country that nobody else could. there are people - parts of the country that nobodyi else could. there are people who never _ else could. there are people who never voted — else could. there are people who never voted conservative - else could. there are people who never voted conservative beforei else could. there are people who. never voted conservative before in their lives. — never voted conservative before in their lives, particularly— never voted conservative before in their lives, particularly in- never voted conservative before in their lives, particularly in the - never voted conservative before in their lives, particularly in the red i their lives, particularly in the red wall. _ their lives, particularly in the red wall. who — their lives, particularly in the red wall. who like _ their lives, particularly in the red wall, who like boris _ their lives, particularly in the red wall, who like borisjohnson. - their lives, particularly in the red wall, who like borisjohnson. he| their lives, particularly in the red - wall, who like borisjohnson. he has a brilliant _ wall, who like borisjohnson. he has a brilliant turn _ wall, who like borisjohnson. he has a brilliant turn of _ wall, who like borisjohnson. he has a brilliant turn of phrase _ wall, who like borisjohnson. he has a brilliant turn of phrase and - wall, who like borisjohnson. he has a brilliant turn of phrase and he - a brilliant turn of phrase and he was very— a brilliant turn of phrase and he was very able _ a brilliant turn of phrase and he was very able within _ a brilliant turn of phrase and he i was very able within government a brilliant turn of phrase and he - was very able within government when he was _ was very able within government when he was across — was very able within government when he was across the _ was very able within government when he was across the detail. _ was very able within government when he was across the detail. sometimes l he was across the detail. sometimes he was across the detail. sometimes he wasn't. _ he was across the detail. sometimes he wasn't. but — he was across the detail. sometimes he wasn't, but when _ he was across the detail. sometimes he wasn't, but when he _ he was across the detail. sometimes he wasn't, but when he was - he was across the detail. sometimes he wasn't, but when he was across . he wasn't, but when he was across the detail. — he wasn't, but when he was across the detail. and _ he wasn't, but when he was across the detail, and was— he wasn't, but when he was across the detail, and was focused - he wasn't, but when he was across the detail, and was focused on- he wasn't, but when he was across the detail, and was focused on thei the detail, and was focused on the issues _ the detail, and was focused on the issues at _ the detail, and was focused on the issues at hand. _ the detail, and was focused on the issues at hand, like _ the detail, and was focused on the issues at hand, like the _ the detail, and was focused on the issues at hand, like the vaccine . issues at hand, like the vaccine programme. _ issues at hand, like the vaccine programme. yes. _ issues at hand, like the vaccine programme, yes, that- issues at hand, like the vaccine programme, yes, that was - issues at hand, like the vaccine i programme, yes, that was rolled issues at hand, like the vaccine - programme, yes, that was rolled out across— programme, yes, that was rolled out across the _ programme, yes, that was rolled out across the world. _ programme, yes, that was rolled out across the world. but _ programme, yes, that was rolled out across the world. but in _ programme, yes, that was rolled out across the world. but in the - programme, yes, that was rolled out across the world. but in the uk, - programme, yes, that was rolled out across the world. but in the uk, the| across the world. but in the uk, the reason _ across the world. but in the uk, the reason why— across the world. but in the uk, the reason why we — across the world. but in the uk, the reason why we were _ across the world. but in the uk, the reason why we were the _ across the world. but in the uk, the reason why we were the first - across the world. but in the uk, the reason why we were the first to - across the world. but in the uk, the reason why we were the first to roll| reason why we were the first to roll it out _ reason why we were the first to roll it out was _ reason why we were the first to roll it out was because _ reason why we were the first to roll it out was because of _ reason why we were the first to roll it out was because of the _ reason why we were the first to roll it out was because of the pressure. i it out was because of the pressure. i it out was because of the pressure. i remember— it out was because of the pressure. i remember being _ it out was because of the pressure. i remember being in— it out was because of the pressure. i remember being in those - it out was because of the pressure. . i remember being in those meetings. borisjohnson — i remember being in those meetings. borisjohnson was _ i remember being in those meetings. borisjohnson was clear— i remember being in those meetings. boris johnson was clear with - i remember being in those meetings. boris johnson was clear with the - boris johnson was clear with the civil service _ boris johnson was clear with the civil service and _ boris johnson was clear with the civil service and came _ boris johnson was clear with the civil service and came back- boris johnson was clear with the civil service and came back with| boris johnson was clear with the i civil service and came back with a timetable — civil service and came back with a timetable to _ civil service and came back with a timetable to say, _ civil service and came back with a timetable to say, we _ civil service and came back with a timetable to say, we can - civil service and came back with a timetable to say, we can have - civil service and came back with a timetable to say, we can have it. civil service and came back with a i timetable to say, we can have it by this date _ timetable to say, we can have it by this date and — timetable to say, we can have it by this date and roll _ timetable to say, we can have it by this date and roll it _ timetable to say, we can have it by this date and roll it out _ timetable to say, we can have it by this date and roll it out in - timetable to say, we can have it by this date and roll it out in two - this date and roll it out in two tuesdays _ this date and roll it out in two tuesdays. boris— this date and roll it out in two tuesdays. borisjohnson- this date and roll it out in two tuesdays. boris johnson said | this date and roll it out in two . tuesdays. borisjohnson said no, this date and roll it out in two - tuesdays. borisjohnson said no, it needs— tuesdays. borisjohnson said no, it needs to— tuesdays. borisjohnson said no, it needs to be — tuesdays. borisjohnson said no, it needs to be quicker. _ tuesdays. borisjohnson said no, it needs to be quicker. and _ tuesdays. borisjohnson said no, it

needs to be quicker. and it- tuesdays. borisjohnson said no, it needs to be quicker. and it was- needs to be quicker. and it was rolled _ needs to be quicker. and it was rolled out— needs to be quicker. and it was rolled out quicker. _ needs to be quicker. and it was rolled out quicker. similarly- needs to be quicker. and it wasi rolled out quicker. similarly with ukraine. — rolled out quicker. similarly with ukraine, when— rolled out quicker. similarly with ukraine, when he _ rolled out quicker. similarly with ukraine, when he is— rolled out quicker. similarly with ukraine, when he is focused - rolled out quicker. similarly with ukraine, when he is focused on. rolled out quicker. similarly with . ukraine, when he is focused on the issues _ ukraine, when he is focused on the issues at _ ukraine, when he is focused on the issues at hand. _ ukraine, when he is focused on the issues at hand, he _ ukraine, when he is focused on the issues at hand, he can _ ukraine, when he is focused on the issues at hand, he can be - ukraine, when he is focused on the| issues at hand, he can be incredibly effective~ _ issues at hand, he can be incredibly effective~ but — issues at hand, he can be incredibly effective. but you _ issues at hand, he can be incredibly effective. but you have _ issues at hand, he can be incredibly effective. but you have to _ issues at hand, he can be incredibly effective. but you have to have - issues at hand, he can be incredibly effective. but you have to have the | effective. but you have to have the balance _ effective. but you have to have the balance between _ effective. but you have to have the balance between being _ effective. but you have to have the balance between being across - effective. but you have to have the balance between being across the. balance between being across the detail. _ balance between being across the detail. being _ balance between being across the detail, being open _ balance between being across the detail, being open and _ balance between being across the detail, being open and honest- balance between being across the . detail, being open and honest about your faults _ detail, being open and honest about your faults as — detail, being open and honest about your faults as well— detail, being open and honest about your faults as well as _ detail, being open and honest about your faults as well as the _ detail, being open and honest about your faults as well as the issues. - your faults as well as the issues. there _ your faults as well as the issues. there is— your faults as well as the issues. there is a — your faults as well as the issues. there is a tightrope _ your faults as well as the issues. there is a tightrope where - your faults as well as the issues. i there is a tightrope where clearly, asjohnson— there is a tightrope where clearly, asjohnson has— there is a tightrope where clearly, asjohnson has been— there is a tightrope where clearly, as johnson has been able - there is a tightrope where clearly, asjohnson has been able to - there is a tightrope where clearly, asjohnson has been able to play. there is a tightrope where clearly, i asjohnson has been able to play by the rules— asjohnson has been able to play by the rules himself— asjohnson has been able to play by the rules himself and _ asjohnson has been able to play by the rules himself and strengthen. the rules himself and strengthen that trust — the rules himself and strengthen that trust. ., . the rules himself and strengthen that trust. ., , . . , ., that trust. people are wearying of entertainment, _ that trust. people are wearying of entertainment, they _ that trust. people are wearying of entertainment, they want - that trust. people are wearying of entertainment, they want good i entertainment, they want good government. we have got mandy in derby and catherine in newquay and the fire is still with us in central london. ~ , ., , the fire is still with us in central london. , ., london. with your previous caller, i totally disagree. _ london. with your previous caller, i totally disagree. who _ london. with your previous caller, i totally disagree. who is _ london. with your previous caller, i totally disagree. who is that? - london. with your previous caller, i totally disagree. who is that? this | totally disagree. who is that? this is catherine _ totally disagree. who is that? this is catherine from _ totally disagree. who is that? this is catherine from cornwall. - totally disagree. who is that? this is catherine from cornwall. let - totally disagree. who is that? this i is catherine from cornwall. let me ask one more _ is catherine from cornwall. let me ask one more thing _

is catherine from cornwall. let me ask one more thing to _ is catherine from cornwall. let me ask one more thing to charlie. - is catherine from cornwall. let me ask one more thing to charlie. he | ask one more thing to charlie. he said in the letter, i did not lie and i believe in their hearts, the committee know it, but they have chosen to ignore the truth because from the outset, their purpose has not been to discover the truth or understand what was in my mind when i spoke in the commons. their purpose from the beginning has been to find me guilty regardless of the facts. that is the definition of a kangaroo court. charlie, by saying that stuff and impugning the committee, does he not do himself and his reputation at the service? that's right, and it pains me to say that. _ that's right, and it pains me to say that. because _ that's right, and it pains me to say that, because boris _ that's right, and it pains me to say that, because boris has _ that's right, and it pains me to say that, because boris has brilliant i that, because boris has brilliant gualities — that, because boris has brilliant qualities he _ that, because boris has brilliant qualities. he is— that, because boris has brilliant qualities. he is a _ that, because boris has brilliant qualities. he is a brilliant - qualities. he is a brilliant communicator. _ qualities. he is a brilliant communicator. the - qualities. he is a brilliant - communicator. the committee is qualities. he is a brilliant _ communicator. the committee is made up communicator. the committee is made up of conservative _ communicator. the committee is made up of conservative mps _ communicator. the committee is made up of conservative mps who _ communicator. the committee is made up of conservative mps who i— communicator. the committee is made up of conservative mps who i know - up of conservative mps who i know who are _ up of conservative mps who i know who are outstanding _ up of conservative mps who i know who are outstanding members - up of conservative mps who i know who are outstanding members of l who are outstanding members of society — who are outstanding members of society. they— who are outstanding members of society. they are _ who are outstanding members of society. they are brilliant -

who are outstanding members of society. they are brilliant mps. l who are outstanding members ofi society. they are brilliant mps. so it's a _ society. they are brilliant mps. so it's a bit— society. they are brilliant mps. so it's a bit of— society. they are brilliant mps. so it's a bit of a — society. they are brilliant mps. so it's a bit of a friendly— society. they are brilliant mps. so it's a bit of a friendly fire - society. they are brilliant mps. so it's a bit of a friendly fire shot - it's a bit of a friendly fire shot from — it's a bit of a friendly fire shot from boris _ it's a bit of a friendly fire shot from borisjohnson, - it's a bit of a friendly fire shot from borisjohnson, which - it's a bit of a friendly fire shot - from borisjohnson, which doesn't unite _ from borisjohnson, which doesn't unite conservatives. _ from borisjohnson, which doesn't unite conservatives. nobody- from borisjohnson, which doesn't unite conservatives. nobody likes| unite conservatives. nobody likes this blue — unite conservatives. nobody likes this blue on — unite conservatives. nobody likes this blue on blue _ unite conservatives. nobody likes this blue on blue action. - unite conservatives. nobody likes this blue on blue action. the - this blue on blue action. the committee _ this blue on blue action. the committee wasn't _ this blue on blue action. the committee wasn't looking i this blue on blue action. the i committee wasn't looking into whether— committee wasn't looking into whether he _ committee wasn't looking into whether he lied _ committee wasn't looking into whether he lied or— committee wasn't looking into whether he lied or not. - committee wasn't looking into whether he lied or not. he - committee wasn't looking into . whether he lied or not. he misled parliament. — whether he lied or not. he misled parliament, that— whether he lied or not. he misled parliament, that is— whether he lied or not. he misled parliament, that is accepted. - whether he lied or not. he misled parliament, that is accepted. the| parliament, that is accepted. the committee — parliament, that is accepted. the committee is _ parliament, that is accepted. the committee is looking _ parliament, that is accepted. the committee is looking into - parliament, that is accepted. the| committee is looking into whether parliament, that is accepted. the - committee is looking into whether he knowingly— committee is looking into whether he knowingly or — committee is looking into whether he knowingly or recklessly— committee is looking into whether he knowingly or recklessly misled - knowingly or recklessly misled parliament~ _ knowingly or recklessly misled parliament. and _ knowingly or recklessly misled parliament. and by— knowingly or recklessly misled parliament. and by boris - knowingly or recklessly misled - parliament. and by borisjohnson's own account. — parliament. and by borisjohnson's own account, he _ parliament. and by borisjohnson's own account, he was _ parliament. and by borisjohnson's own account, he was clear- parliament. and by borisjohnson's own account, he was clear that - parliament. and by borisjohnson's. own account, he was clear that what he thought _ own account, he was clear that what he thought he — own account, he was clear that what he thought he was _ own account, he was clear that what he thought he was doing _ own account, he was clear that what he thought he was doing was - own account, he was clear that what he thought he was doing was right. he thought he was doing was right because _ he thought he was doing was right because nobody— he thought he was doing was right because nobody around _ he thought he was doing was right because nobody around him - he thought he was doing was right- because nobody around him challenged him about— because nobody around him challenged him about it _ because nobody around him challenged him about it. now, _ because nobody around him challenged him about it. now, you _ because nobody around him challenged him about it. now, you can _ because nobody around him challenged him about it. now, you can accept - him about it. now, you can accept that and _ him about it. now, you can accept that and think _ him about it. now, you can accept that and think there _ him about it. now, you can accept that and think there should - him about it. now, you can accept that and think there should have l that and think there should have been _ that and think there should have been somebody— that and think there should have been somebody that _ that and think there should have been somebody that challenged | that and think there should have - been somebody that challenged him about— been somebody that challenged him about it. _ been somebody that challenged him about it. but — been somebody that challenged him about it, but when _ been somebody that challenged him about it, but when you _ been somebody that challenged him about it, but when you are - been somebody that challenged him about it, but when you are dealing l about it, but when you are dealing with covid. — about it, but when you are dealing with covid, the — about it, but when you are dealing with covid, the number— about it, but when you are dealing with covid, the number one - about it, but when you are dealing with covid, the number one issuei about it, but when you are dealing i with covid, the number one issue of the day. _ with covid, the number one issue of the day. the — with covid, the number one issue of the day, the whole _ with covid, the number one issue of the day, the whole country- with covid, the number one issue of the day, the whole country was - the day, the whole country was affected. — the day, the whole country was affected. it _ the day, the whole country was affected, it was _ the day, the whole country was affected, it was his _ the day, the whole country was affected, it was his rule - the day, the whole country was affected, it was his rule is- the day, the whole country was affected, it was his rule is that| the day, the whole country was . affected, it was his rule is that he signed _ affected, it was his rule is that he signed off — affected, it was his rule is that he signed off you _ affected, it was his rule is that he signed off. you need _ affected, it was his rule is that he signed off. you need to— affected, it was his rule is that he signed off. you need to be - affected, it was his rule is that he signed off. you need to be acrossi signed off. you need to be across the detail. — signed off. you need to be across the detail, and _ signed off. you need to be across the detail, and if— signed off. you need to be across the detail, and if he _ signed off. you need to be across the detail, and if he didn't - signed off. you need to be across the detail, and if he didn't think. the detail, and if he didn't think anything — the detail, and if he didn't think anything was _ the detail, and if he didn't think anything was improper, - the detail, and if he didn't think anything was improper, if- the detail, and if he didn't think anything was improper, if he i the detail, and if he didn't think. anything was improper, if he didn't know— anything was improper, if he didn't know those — anything was improper, if he didn't know those rules _ anything was improper, if he didn't know those rules as _ anything was improper, if he didn't know those rules as the _ anything was improper, if he didn't know those rules as the prime - know those rules as the prime minister— know those rules as the prime minister of— know those rules as the prime minister of this— know those rules as the prime

minister of this country- know those rules as the prime minister of this country and i know those rules as the prime i minister of this country and you break— minister of this country and you break them. _ minister of this country and you break them, i'm _ minister of this country and you break them, i'm afraid - minister of this country and you break them, i'm afraid you're . minister of this country and you i break them, i'm afraid you're in trouble — catherine, what do you think? has he brought this office into disrepute? no, i think he has been treated very unfairly. i think i hold no, i think he has been treated very unfairly. ithink i hold high regard, see gentleman said before, for boris. he is the best since, in my view, since churchill. the human impact boris had over the period, the covid period on gb was triumphant, in my eyes he has thrived in every aspect. he settled, sorted out the brexit mess, was it him? he helped everybody with living costs and also he himself was in hospital, if you remember. he had all that, he had to go back to work

before this party happened and after this party happened and they were all there, was rishi sunak to request packet seems to me like they are a pack of hyenas. in the cabinet and the opposition always just seem to bully or pick on one thing but anything else like rishi sunak�*s wave's is all swept under the carpet, so why is he being targeted? why him? everybody else, like you said, with all the prime ministers, mps they are, you would lose everybody. there should be an investigation on everybody there, absolutely everybody because i don't think there would be anybody left. mandy. think there would be anybody left. mand . , ., think there would be anybody left. mand . ., ., �* think there would be anybody left. mand. ., ., �* . mandy. good morning. i don't agree at all with the _ mandy. good morning. i don't agree at all with the last _ mandy. good morning. i don't agree at all with the last caller, _ mandy. good morning. i don't agree at all with the last caller, i - mandy. good morning. i don't agree at all with the last caller, i am - mandy. good morning. i don't agree at all with the last caller, i am a - at all with the last caller, i am a floating — at all with the last caller, i am a floating voter and borders persuaded

me to _ floating voter and borders persuaded me to vote _ floating voter and borders persuaded me to vote for him, despite me voting _ me to vote for him, despite me voting remain, to sort the mess out. but throughout his dealing with cove and everything i was relying on him because _ and everything i was relying on him because it — and everything i was relying on him because it was critically affecting my life _ because it was critically affecting my life as — because it was critically affecting my life as a disabled person, having to isolate _ my life as a disabled person, having to isolate is— my life as a disabled person, having to isolate is extremely vulnerable and that — to isolate is extremely vulnerable and that had a catastrophic effect on my— and that had a catastrophic effect on my life — and that had a catastrophic effect on my life because in the late 80s, since _ on my life because in the late 80s, since then— on my life because in the late 80s, since then i— on my life because in the late 80s, since then i have been heavily defended all my life on the nhs and during _ defended all my life on the nhs and during covid, all that completely ended. _ during covid, all that completely ended. i— during covid, all that completely ended, i got totally cut off from everything and everyone, there was no support— everything and everyone, there was no support any more, there was no help and — no support any more, there was no help and to _ no support any more, there was no help and to start to see all the publicity — help and to start to see all the publicity coming out, not being able to be _ publicity coming out, not being able to be with _ publicity coming out, not being able to be with loved ones, the whole

mess. _ to be with loved ones, the whole mess, looking at what he has done, how he _ mess, looking at what he has done, how he has— mess, looking at what he has done, how he has behaved, having no respect — how he has behaved, having no respect at — how he has behaved, having no respect at all for the electorate and for— respect at all for the electorate and for those in needs, that they are supposed to be looking after. i'm are supposed to be looking after. i'm sorry. — are supposed to be looking after. i'm sorry. it— are supposed to be looking after. i'm sorry, it is not on. we expect better— i'm sorry, it is not on. we expect better from — i'm sorry, it is not on. we expect better from our politicians and for him to— better from our politicians and for him to have — better from our politicians and for him to have had such a catastrophic effectm _ him to have had such a catastrophic effect... ~ . . ~ him to have had such a catastrophic effect... ~' . . ,, ., him to have had such a catastrophic effect... ~' . ., , ., effect... like a pack of hyenas on him. effect... like a pack of hyenas on him- everything _ effect... like a pack of hyenas on him. everything else _ effect... like a pack of hyenas on him. everything else is _ effect... like a pack of hyenas on him. everything else is swept - effect... like a pack of hyenas on i him. everything else is swept under the carpet with anybody else but boris seems to be getting it left right and centre from notjust boris seems to be getting it left right and centre from not just the opposition from his own cabinet as well. we some might say unique in his lack of qualities and integrity -- let me read you a quote. this is a view held — -- let me read you a quote. this is a view held within _ -- let me read you a quote. this is a view held within conservative - a view held within conservative party circles as well. this is a man

who seriously debase the high office, was neverfit to hold. a man who turned government into a carnival of cloning chaos and chicanery, a man who presided over an appalling regime of lockdown busting and lawbreaking in downing street which triggered entirely justifiable public outrage and was poison for people was my faith in government. poison for people was my faith in government-— poison for people was my faith in government._ one . poison for people was my faith in - government._ one mistake, government. absolutely. one mistake, but what about — government. absolutely. one mistake, but what about all— government. absolutely. one mistake, but what about all the _ government. absolutely. one mistake, but what about all the rest _ government. absolutely. one mistake, but what about all the rest of _ government. absolutely. one mistake, but what about all the rest of them? i but what about all the rest of them? i wonder how many people were actually at that party. did this happen before or after he was let out of hospital because of this he would have wanted to get back to work after. after, right. ifeel he's being singled out, delete a lot, like a of hyenas. i reckon if you investigate on all of them... they will all... you investigate on all of them. .. they will all. . ._ they will all... what about the eatpectation —

they will all... what about the expectation of _ they will all... what about the expectation of excellence. - they will all... what about the i expectation of excellence. what about _ expectation of excellence. what about the expectation of excellence? when _ about the expectation of excellence? when i _ about the expectation of excellence? when i was _ about the expectation of excellence? when i was brought up i was taught to respect— when i was brought up i was taught to respect those in power. of course. to respect those in power. of course- we — to respect those in power. of course. we like _ to respect those in power. of course. we like these - to respect those in power. of course. we like these peoplej to respect those in power. of - course. we like these people because the are course. we like these people because they are sopposed — course. we like these people because they are supposed to _ course. we like these people because they are supposed to be _ course. we like these people because they are supposed to be the - course. we like these people because they are supposed to be the cream i course. we like these people because they are supposed to be the cream of| they are supposed to be the cream of our society. _ they are supposed to be the cream of our society, and to make the difficult _ our society, and to make the difficult decisions that we rely on but we _ difficult decisions that we rely on but we can't do that with boris. now the nhs _ but we can't do that with boris. now the nhs is _ but we can't do that with boris. now the nhs is completely up the creek, after 13— the nhs is completely up the creek, after 13 years of conservative control _ after 13 years of conservative control. what i'm looking for is for somebody— control. what i'm looking for is for somebody to take calls of the hoards of the _ somebody to take calls of the hoards of the matter and just deal with it -- take _ of the matter and just deal with it —— take hold of the horns of the matter — -- take hold of the horns of the matter. ~ . ,., ., -- take hold of the horns of the matter. ~ . ., matter. we want some dull now, some managerial. — matter. we want some dull now, some managerial, whether _ matter. we want some dull now, some managerial, whether rishi _ matter. we want some dull now, some managerial, whether rishi sunak- matter. we want some dull now, some managerial, whether rishi sunak or - managerial, whether rishi sunak or keir starmer, just to take us away from the flamboyance. what do you

think? do you want him gone? boris johnson. get in touch. more to come. mps are expected to finish their investigation today into whether borisjohnson misled parliament about lockdown parties at downing street. mrjohnson resigned on friday — calling the committee a 'kangaroo court�* — after seeing an advanced copy of the report....rishi sunak has defended his handling of boris johnson's resignation honours list. he insisted the government had followed the correct procedures — and that it had not over—ruled the house of lords appointments commission. the list didn't include a number of mrjohnson's key supporters. the 11—year—old girl from a british family who was shot dead in her garden in france has been

named as solaine thornton. the local mayor says her parents — both british are in hospital. the family's second daughter was unharmed. it's being reported there was a long—running neighbour dispute about land. a 71—year—old dutch man has been arrested. the former italian prime minister — silvio berlusconi — has died at the age of 86. the billionaire media tycoon first came to office in1991t and led four governments until 2011. now, the sport. novak djokovic has moved back to the top of the men's tennis world rankings after sealing a 3rd french open title and a 23rd overall gs singles trophy. it moves him one clear of rafa nadal who's dropped out of the top 100 — he's recovering from injury and won't play for the rest of this season. brentford striker ivan toney says missing last year's world cup was a bigger punishment than the 8

month ban he's serving for breaking fa betting rules. he was charged in november and missed out on a place in gareth southgate's squad — toney says he plans to come back as a 'different animal'. harlequins pairjoe marler and danny care have been named in steve borthwick�*s 28 player training squad for england's first rugby world cup "preparation camp." it doesnt include the rested players who were involved in the premiership semis and final. the world cup starts in september — care hasnt played for england since last summer while marler�*s last run out was 2021. and in netball — loughborough lightning came from behind to beat london pulse 57—48 to win a second super league title. the world cup starts next month.

let's get straight to on boris johnson. andy, you go first. lottie, you've been waiting. what do you think westpaci you've been waiting. what do you think westpa— you've been waiting. what do you think westpac i definitely want him one, i think westpac i definitely want him gone. i don't _ think westpac i definitely want him gone, i don't agree _ think westpac i definitely want him gone, i don't agree with _ think westpac i definitely want him gone, i don't agree with a - think westpac i definitely want him gone, i don't agree with a view - think westpac i definitely want him gone, i don't agree with a view of i gone, i don't agree with a view of the last college thinking he is some kind of hero and has done all this so quickly with covid, i don't think any of that is right, i think party gate showed herself as she is and he doesn't care, doesn't care for other people. didn't care about the people that were dying from over and as well as all the covid stuff, he didn't rule out social distancing,

masks any of that quick enough, i think. , . . . masks any of that quick enough, i think. , . , ., think. rebecca in southampton, good morninu. i think. rebecca in southampton, good morning. ithink— think. rebecca in southampton, good morning. i think he's _ think. rebecca in southampton, good morning. i think he's a _ think. rebecca in southampton, good morning. i think he's a brilliant - morning. i think he's a brilliant man, i morning. i think he's a brilliant man. i think — morning. i think he's a brilliant man, i think he _ morning. i think he's a brilliant man, i think he should - morning. i think he's a brilliant man, i think he should stay, i morning. i think he's a brilliant i man, i think he should stay, from morning. i think he's a brilliant - man, i think he should stay, from my personal— man, i think he should stay, from my personal point of view i was a single — personal point of view i was a single parent at the time, had a 17—year—old and a nine—year—old indoors. — 17—year—old and a nine—year—old indoors, really difficult time with them. _ indoors, really difficult time with them, with teaching and the nonsocial side of it but i remained in the _ nonsocial side of it but i remained in the 40 — nonsocial side of it but i remained in the 40 hour a weekjob and i can't— in the 40 hour a weekjob and i can'tthink_ in the 40 hour a weekjob and i can't think boris enough for it still— can't think boris enough for it still being here today. do can't think boris enough for it still being here today.- can't think boris enough for it still being here today. do you think des - ite still being here today. do you think desite his still being here today. do you think despite his mistakes _ still being here today. do you think despite his mistakes he _ still being here today. do you think despite his mistakes he means - still being here today. do you think l despite his mistakes he means well? i do, i totally do. we are all human. _ i do, i totally do. we are all human, we've got needs and things we want to— human, we've got needs and things we want to be _ human, we've got needs and things we want to be doing. i can only speak from _ want to be doing. i can only speak from personal experience, i didn't

lose anyone to death, suicide, but for me _ lose anyone to death, suicide, but for me personally i go through an invisible — for me personally i go through an invisible wall and we couldn't have do without — invisible wall and we couldn't have do without boris johnson. invisible wall and we couldn't have do without borisjohnson. an do without boris johnson. an invisible do without borisjohnson. sift invisible war, thank you. andy ensures pretty. invisible war, thank you. andy ensures pretty-— invisible war, thank you. andy ensures pretty. boris taking the flat, fine, ensures pretty. boris taking the flat. fine. but— ensures pretty. boris taking the flat, fine, but the _ ensures pretty. boris taking the flat, fine, but the party - ensures pretty. boris taking the flat, fine, but the party are - ensures pretty. boris taking the flat, fine, but the party are to l flat, fine, but the party are to blame — flat, fine, but the party are to blame as— flat, fine, but the party are to blame as well. _ flat, fine, but the party are to blame as well. initially - flat, fine, but the party are to blame as well. initially the i flat, fine, but the party are to . blame as well. initially the whole tory party — blame as well. initially the whole tory party voted _ blame as well. initially the whole tory party voted him _ blame as well. initially the whole tory party voted him in, - blame as well. initially the whole tory party voted him in, a - blame as well. initially the whole tory party voted him in, a known| tory party voted him in, a known liar sacked — tory party voted him in, a known liar sacked from _ tory party voted him in, a known liar sacked from three _ tory party voted him in, a known liar sacked from three jobs, - tory party voted him in, a knownj liar sacked from three jobs, what made _ liar sacked from three jobs, what made them — liar sacked from three jobs, what made them think— liar sacked from three jobs, what made them think he _ liar sacked from three jobs, what made them think he would - liar sacked from three jobs, what made them think he would be . liar sacked from three jobs, whati made them think he would be any different— made them think he would be any different as — made them think he would be any different as the _ made them think he would be any different as the pm, _ made them think he would be any different as the pm, thewe - made them think he would be any different as the pm, thewe are i made them think he would be any different as the pm, thewe are all human. _ different as the pm, thewe are all human. most— different as the pm, thewe are all human. most of— different as the pm, thewe are all human, most of us— different as the pm, thewe are all human, most of us are. _ different as the pm, thewe are all human, most of us are. we - different as the pm, thewe are all human, most of us are. we are l different as the pm, thewe are all- human, most of us are. we are about the party— human, most of us are. we are about the party voted — human, most of us are. we are about the party voted for _ human, most of us are. we are about the party voted for somebody- human, most of us are. we are about the party voted for somebody to - human, most of us are. we are about the party voted for somebody to take | the party voted for somebody to take pretty _ the party voted for somebody to take pretty much — the party voted for somebody to take pretty much the _ the party voted for somebody to take pretty much the highest _ the party voted for somebody to take pretty much the highest job - the party voted for somebody to take pretty much the highestjob in - the party voted for somebody to take pretty much the highest job in this i pretty much the highestjob in this country— pretty much the highestjob in this country and — pretty much the highestjob in this country and voted _ pretty much the highestjob in this

country and voted in _ pretty much the highestjob in this country and voted in somebody. pretty much the highest job in this i country and voted in somebody they knew _ country and voted in somebody they knew was _ country and voted in somebody they knew was a — country and voted in somebody they knew was a liar. _ country and voted in somebody they knew was a liar. find _ country and voted in somebody they knew was a liar.— knew was a liar. and they did the ri . ht thin knew was a liar. and they did the right thing because _ knew was a liar. and they did the right thing because he _ knew was a liar. and they did the right thing because he won - knew was a liar. and they did the right thing because he won them| knew was a liar. and they did the l right thing because he won them a humongous victory. bean there is to say to that one. it was boris johnson versusjeremy corbyn and nobody wanted jeremy corbyn. everyone bangs on about a majority but that's _ everyone bangs on about a majority but that's partly— everyone bangs on about a majority but that's partly because _ everyone bangs on about a majority but that's partly because jeremy- but that's partly because jeremy corbyn _ but that's partly because jeremy corbyn was _ but that's partly because jeremy corbyn was the _ but that's partly because jeremy corbyn was the opposition. - but that's partly because jeremy corbyn was the opposition. people with that particular— corbyn was the opposition. people with that particular political- with that particular political interpretation to see anything with a blue rosette would have beaten corbyn, and oversee lots of people love corbyn. you wrote a book about borisjohnson. oddly enough, too. one about his early life and one about him as prime minster. new stuff happens all the time, updating? stuff happens all the time, updating?— stuff happens all the time, u-udatin? , ., , ., ., , updating? anyway one should not be too distracted _ updating? anyway one should not be too distracted by _ updating? anyway one should not be too distracted by that _ updating? anyway one should not be too distracted by that because - updating? anyway one should not be too distracted by that because he - too distracted by that because he does not change as a person on one of the things he wanted a very sinister mend fences, he won't want

a permanent state of civil war within the tory party and nor will the party, the party has done well for the last 200 years by not having terrible splits, as labour and the liberals have from time to time, so this row, although a very intense one and arousing very strong feelings amongst the listeners, it well, i think, feelings amongst the listeners, it well, ithink, especially feelings amongst the listeners, it well, i think, especially of rishi sunak is a stitch about this and doesn't try to drive boris johnson out of darkness and allows them to stand in henley, if that is what he local party one, i think this row can be, there are enormous incentives on both sides to end the row, actually. it incentives on both sides to end the row. actually-— row, actually. it seems to be personal— row, actually. it seems to be personal between _ row, actually. it seems to be personal between him - row, actually. it seems to be personal between him and i row, actually. it seems to be i personal between him and rishi sunak. i personal between him and rishi sunak. ., �* ~' , personal between him and rishi sunak. ,, , ,, personal between him and rishi sunak. ., �* ,, , ,, .~ , sunak. i don't think rishi sunak is a man of personal _ sunak. i don't think rishi sunak is a man of personal vendettas i sunak. i don't think rishi sunak is a man of personal vendettas and l a man of personal vendettas and another in a building there is any evidence that borisjohnson bears grudges, he is a magnanimous person, he fears very ill use, angry and feel this was the best way, rather than sitting down and listening to these lectures endlessly, he just

thought let's get this over and done with. ., , . , thought let's get this over and done with. ., , ., . thought let's get this over and done with. ., , . with. point is, he has paid a price, he's no longer _ with. point is, he has paid a price, he's no longer prime _ with. point is, he has paid a price, he's no longer prime minister, i with. point is, he has paid a price, | he's no longer prime minister, your system has worked, he's been chucked out and that's one of the glories of our system, whenever a prime minister becomes extremely unpopular and a large number of people think he or she must go, the 70 to margaret thatcher, happens to everyone, and he went, that was the accountability, not the sort of interminable commons procedure. su narcissus? he interminable commons procedure. su narcissus? . interminable commons procedure. su narcissus? , . ., , interminable commons procedure. su narcissus? , . . , ., interminable commons procedure. su narcissus? , . . , . ., narcissus? he is certainly an ego list, i'm narcissus? he is certainly an ego list. l'm not— narcissus? he is certainly an ego list, i'm not quite _ narcissus? he is certainly an ego list, i'm not quite sure _ narcissus? he is certainly an ego list, i'm not quite sure of - narcissus? he is certainly an ego list, i'm not quite sure of the i list, i'm not quite sure of the definition of the world. it is not all about him, no. definition of the world. it is not allabout him, no. he definition of the world. it is not all about him, no. he connects with other people because he does feel for other people. i thought your collar was wrong.— collar was wrong. sense of entitlement, _ collar was wrong. sense of entitlement, he _ collar was wrong. sense of entitlement, he is - collar was wrong. sense of entitlement, he is never i collar was wrong. sense of| entitlement, he is never to collar was wrong. sense of - entitlement, he is never to blame, although someone else's volt? sense of audacity and _ although someone else's volt? sense of audacity and complete _ although someone else's volt? it"? of audacity and complete disrespect for the rules, in about that, but that's part of a tradition, rule breaking, rules are meant to be

broken, a lot of people in this country believe that, a lot don't, is a big division. i suppose it is the cavaliers and the puritans, the peerages that we have very strict rules, will ban christmas and have no fun any more... latte rules, will ban christmas and have no fun any more...— no fun any more... we have rebel hearts, no fun any more... we have rebel hearts. we _ no fun any more... we have rebel hearts, we want _ no fun any more... we have rebel hearts, we want to _ no fun any more... we have rebel hearts, we want to back— no fun any more... we have rebel hearts, we want to back against i no fun any more... we have rebel. hearts, we want to back against the establishment.— establishment. yes, he is brilliant as an insurgent, _ establishment. yes, he is brilliant as an insurgent, wasn't _ establishment. yes, he is brilliant as an insurgent, wasn't brilliant i as an insurgent, wasn't brilliant when he had to change from being the insurgent to the man running the show. there he would give one instruction or make one decision in the meeting at 8:30 and then another meeting at ten o'clock and have another decision in the official machine cannot work like that and that was very much to his discredit. is he? ., ~' , is he? no, i think it tells the truth on _ is he? no, i think it tells the truth on important _ is he? no, i think it tells the truth on important matters | is he? no, | think it tells the | truth on important matters are getting brexit done, he's cavalier with the facts, he's a dramatist, not a factual report. i with the facts, he's a dramatist, not a factual report.— with the facts, he's a dramatist, not a factual report. i heard you in the background. _ not a factual report. i heard you in the background. go _ not a factual report. i heard you in the background. go on. _ not a factual report. i heard you in the background. go on. a- not a factual report. i heard you in the background. go on. a muffled| the background. go on. a muffled potus in the _ the background. go on. a muffled potus in the bag. _ the background. go on. a muffled potus in the bag. is _ the background. go on. a muffled potus in the bag. is brexit - the background. go on. a muffledj

potus in the bag. is brexit done? well, potus in the bag. is brexit done? well. things _ potus in the bag. is brexit done? well, things are _ potus in the bag. is brexit done? well, things are never _ potus in the bag. is brexit done? well, things are never done, i potus in the bag. is brexit done? well, things are never done, is i well, things are never done, is american independence language? yes, it is. is the french revolution of the? it is not really over, i don't think. , , , ., the? it is not really over, i don't think. , , , . the? it is not really over, i don't think-_ the i think. this is beneath you. the argument _ think. this is beneath you. the argument about _ think. this is beneath you. the argument about how _ think. this is beneath you. the argument about how to - think. this is beneath you. the argument about how to get - think. this is beneath you. the argument about how to get on| think. this is beneath you. the - argument about how to get on with their neighbours in europe has been going since 55 bcm will continue. we can specify... everyone _ going since 55 bcm will continue. we can specify... everyone says - going since 55 bcm will continue. we can specify... everyone says boris i can specify... everyone says boris aot brexit can specify... everyone says boris got brexit done, _ can specify... everyone says boris got brexit done, no, _ can specify... everyone says boris got brexit done, no, he _ can specify... everyone says boris got brexit done, no, he didn't, i can specify... everyone says boris got brexit done, no, he didn't, he -ot got brexit done, no, he didn't, he got it_ got brexit done, no, he didn't, he got it started. yellow well he upheld — got it started. yellow well he upheld the result of the referendum. there _ upheld the result of the referendum. there will_ upheld the result of the referendum. there will be no border in the irish sea, was that cavalier with the factsthat was wishful thinking. but he had read the agreement. yes. | factsthat was wishful thinking. but l he had read the agreement. yes. he oversaw the — he had read the agreement. yes. he oversaw the dash _ he had read the agreement. yes. he oversaw the dash over _ he had read the agreement. yes. he oversaw the dash over sold - he had read the agreement. yes. he oversaw the dash over sold it. -

oversaw the dash over sold it. people oversell their manifestos, the promise it will be much better if the summer river did this a spry minister and frankly he was guilty of gross exaggeration, but all politicians, almost all politicians except for the dallas ones are. run that by me — except for the dallas ones are. run that by me again. _ except for the dallas ones are. run that by me again. he _ except for the dallas ones are. run that by me again. he was _ except for the dallas ones are. run that by me again. he was guilty - except for the dallas ones are. run that by me again. he was guilty of| that by me again. he was guilty of cross that by me again. he was guilty of gross exaggeration _ that by me again. he was guilty of gross exaggeration almost - that by me again. he was guilty of gross exaggeration almost all- gross exaggeration almost all politicians except for the very dullest ones are.— politicians except for the very dullest ones are. you are being provocative _ dullest ones are. you are being provocative here. _ dullest ones are. you are being provocative here. so _ dullest ones are. you are being provocative here. so it - dullest ones are. you are being provocative here. so it is - provocative here. so it is acceptable to exaggerate so you are kind of exciting? it is acceptable to exaggerate so you are kind of exciting?— kind of exciting? it is not 'ust acceptable i kind of exciting? it is not 'ust acceptable as i kind of exciting? it is not 'ust acceptable as necessary h kind of exciting? it is notjust - acceptable as necessary otherwise the general election would be about anything. if yoursermons the general election would be about anything. if your sermons so basically i'm going to do pretty much the same as the conservatives are doing at the moment, is rishi sunak is doing, what would we have the election about? [30 sunak is doing, what would we have the election about?— the election about? do not think some of us _ the election about? do not think some of us would _ the election about? do not think some of us would like _ the election about? do not think some of us would like to - the election about? do not think some of us would like to hear i the election about? do not think| some of us would like to hear the truth _ some of us would like to hear the truth about— some of us would like to hear the truth about what's going to happen? honesty. _ truth about what's going to happen? honesty, integrity, things and buses are untrue, people say.— honesty, integrity, things and buses are untrue, people say. honesty and inteuri are untrue, people say. honesty and integrity are — are untrue, people say. honesty and integrity are very _ are untrue, people say. honesty and integrity are very important - are untrue, people say. honesty and integrity are very important and i integrity are very important and it's important you tell the truth

and parliament...— it's important you tell the truth i and parliament..._ i'm glad and parliament... laughter. i'm glad i'm havin: and parliament... laughter. i'm glad i'm having some _ and parliament... laughter. i'm glad i'm having some effect _ and parliament... laughter. i'm glad i'm having some effect is _ and parliament... laughter. i'm glad i'm having some effect is that - and parliament... laughter. i'm glad i'm having some effect is that are i i'm having some effect is that are ou auoin i'm having some effect is that are you going to take this to the edinburgh fringe?— edinburgh fringe? profligate cancelled after _ edinburgh fringe? profligate cancelled after a _ edinburgh fringe? profligate cancelled after a couple i edinburgh fringe? profligate cancelled after a couple of l edinburgh fringe? profligate i cancelled after a couple of shows. probably be to controversial. here isjenny. here is jenny. where here isjenny. where are you on this question? here is jenny. where are you on this ruestion? a, , _ ., question? may i 'ust say one thing at the very — question? may i 'ust say one thing at the very start i question? may i just say one thing at the very start of _ question? may i just say one thing at the very start of our _ at the very start of our conversation. - at the very start of our conversation. no- at the very start of our . conversation. no country at the very start of our i conversation. no country in at the very start of our - conversation. no country in the at the very start of our _ conversation. no country in the uk voted _ conversation. no country in the uk voted for— conversation. no country in the uk voted for brexit. _ conversation. no country in the uk voted for brexit. i’m“ _ conversation. no country in the uk voted for brexit.— conversation. no country in the uk voted for brexit. i'm going to get a better line. — voted for brexit. i'm going to get a better line, your— voted for brexit. i'm going to get a better line, your line _ voted for brexit. i'm going to get a better line, your line is _ voted for brexit. i'm going to get a better line, your line is coming i voted for brexit. i'm going to get a| better line, your line is coming and going. regina, bradley.—

going. regina, bradley. hello, it is hardl , going. regina, bradley. hello, it is hardly. hardly _ going. regina, bradley. hello, it is hardly, hardly in _ going. regina, bradley. hello, it is hardly, hardly in somerset. i- going. regina, bradley. hello, it is hardly, hardly in somerset. i got . hardly, hardly in somerset. i got the difficult _ hardly, hardly in somerset. i got the difficult part _ hardly, hardly in somerset. i got the difficult part right, _ hardly, hardly in somerset. i got the difficult part right, regina, and then i came... i have read the written down here.— and then i came... i have read the written down here. hadley with an h. never mind. — written down here. hadley with an h. never mind. it _ written down here. hadley with an h. never mind, it doesn't _ written down here. hadley with an h. never mind, it doesn't matter. i written down here. hadley with an h. never mind, it doesn't matter. no, l never mind, it doesn't matter. no, it does matter. _ never mind, it doesn't matter. idfr, it does matter. because fax matter, despite what andrew gibson says. —— facts. this is no time for levity. regina in hadley, go on.- regina in hadley, go on. ray, basically. _ regina in hadley, go on. ray, basically. just _ regina in hadley, go on. ray, basically, just listening i regina in hadley, go on. ray, basically, just listening to i regina in hadley, go on. ray, basically, just listening to some of the basically what i would call pro—boris callers and some of the things— pro—boris callers and some of the things that — pro—boris callers and some of the things that have been said a little while _ things that have been said a little while ago, i would just like to say that from — while ago, i would just like to say that from the very beginning, from the very— that from the very beginning, from

the very beginning of his prime minister— the very beginning of his prime minister role borisjohnson showed exactly— minister role borisjohnson showed exactly who he was by lying to the queen— exactly who he was by lying to the queen and — exactly who he was by lying to the queen and attempting to provoke further— queen and attempting to provoke further in. — queen and attempting to provoke further in, and right through his government, right through his time in office _ government, right through his time in office there have been calls over and over— in office there have been calls over and overagain in office there have been calls over and over again pulling him up on the things— and over again pulling him up on the things he _ and over again pulling him up on the things he says and the things he does. _ things he says and the things he does. not — things he says and the things he does, not once, not twice, it has been _ does, not once, not twice, it has been a _ does, not once, not twice, it has been a constant roller—coaster of times— been a constant roller—coaster of times when he has said one thing and then done _ times when he has said one thing and then done something else or change then done something else or change the storyline and somebody else said, _ the storyline and somebody else said. it _ the storyline and somebody else said. it is — the storyline and somebody else said, it is always someone else's for, said, it is always someone else's for. never— said, it is always someone else's for, never has. although they'll say. _ for, never has. although they'll say, ok. — for, never has. although they'll say, ok, he doesn't actually lie, he 'ust say, ok, he doesn't actually lie, he just brushes— say, ok, he doesn't actually lie, he just brushes over things and is very dramatic, _ just brushes over things and is very dramatic, no, when you are in that

position. _ dramatic, no, when you are in that position, what you say and what you do covers _ position, what you say and what you do covers way too many lives for you to be _ do covers way too many lives for you to be dramatic and funny and full she. _ to be dramatic and funny and full she. vou — to be dramatic and funny and full she, you have the lives of millions of people — she, you have the lives of millions of people at your fingertips. what you do— of people at your fingertips. what you do and what you say affects those _ you do and what you say affects those people. and they way he behaved — those people. and they way he behaved in government leaves a lot to be _ behaved in government leaves a lot to be desired. and i don't care what anyone _ to be desired. and i don't care what anyone says — to be desired. and i don't care what anyone says. he needs to go, and i'm -lad anyone says. he needs to go, and i'm glad he's _ anyone says. he needs to go, and i'm glad he's gone, and please god he never— glad he's gone, and please god he never comes back.— glad he's gone, and please god he never comes back. vincent, did you hear that? — never comes back. vincent, did you hear that? yes, _ never comes back. vincent, did you hear that? yes, all— never comes back. vincent, did you hear that? yes, all nonsense. i never comes back. vincent, did you hear that? yes, all nonsense. he i never comes back. vincent, did you hear that? yes, all nonsense. he isj hear that? yes, all nonsense. he is 'ust bein: hear that? yes, all nonsense. he is just being a — hear that? yes, all nonsense. he is just being a scapegoat, _ hear that? yes, all nonsense. he is just being a scapegoat, isn't i hear that? yes, all nonsense. he is just being a scapegoat, isn't he? i just being a scapegoat, isn't he? yes. _ just being a scapegoat, isn't he? yes. he's — just being a scapegoat, isn't he? yes. he's a — just being a scapegoat, isn't he? yes, he's a character, _ just being a scapegoat, isn't he?

yes, he's a character, but - just being a scapegoat, isn't he? yes, he's a character, but he i just being a scapegoat, isn't he? | yes, he's a character, but he has been _ yes, he's a character, but he has been one — yes, he's a character, but he has been one of— yes, he's a character, but he has been one of the _ yes, he's a character, but he has been one of the best _ yes, he's a character, but he has been one of the best prime i yes, he's a character, but he has i been one of the best prime ministers we probably— been one of the best prime ministers we probably will— been one of the best prime ministers we probably will ever— been one of the best prime ministers we probably will ever see _ been one of the best prime ministers we probably will ever see and - been one of the best prime ministers we probably will ever see and i- we probably will ever see and i think— we probably will ever see and i think he — we probably will ever see and i think he is— we probably will ever see and i think he is being _ we probably will ever see and i think he is being made - we probably will ever see and i think he is being made escape| think he is being made escape scapegoat. _ think he is being made escape scapegoat. but— think he is being made escape scapegoat, but i'm _ think he is being made escape scapegoat, but i'm glad i think he is being made escape scapegoat, but i'm glad he's l think he is being made escape i scapegoat, but i'm glad he's done what _ scapegoat, but i'm glad he's done what he _ scapegoat, but i'm glad he's done what he has — scapegoat, but i'm glad he's done what he has done _ scapegoat, but i'm glad he's done what he has done and _ scapegoat, but i'm glad he's done what he has done and turned i scapegoat, but i'm glad he's done i what he has done and turned around on them _ what he has done and turned around on them and — what he has done and turned around on them and resigned _ what he has done and turned around on them and resigned and _ what he has done and turned around on them and resigned and i- what he has done and turned around on them and resigned and i would i what he has done and turned around i on them and resigned and i would say within— on them and resigned and i would say within the _ on them and resigned and i would say within the next— on them and resigned and i would say within the next two _ on them and resigned and i would say within the next two to three _ on them and resigned and i would say within the next two to three months l within the next two to three months you may— within the next two to three months you may see — within the next two to three months you may see him _ within the next two to three months you may see him in— within the next two to three months you may see him in a _ within the next two to three months you may see him in a different i within the next two to three monthsj you may see him in a different party with a _ you may see him in a different party with a group— you may see him in a different party with a group of— you may see him in a different party with a group of like—minded - you may see him in a different party with a group of like—minded people i with a group of like—minded people that are _ with a group of like—minded people that are capable, _ with a group of like—minded people that are capable, listening - with a group of like—minded people that are capable, listening to i with a group of like—minded people that are capable, listening to a i with a group of like—minded people that are capable, listening to a lotl that are capable, listening to a lot of the _ that are capable, listening to a lot of the conversations _ that are capable, listening to a lot of the conversations today - that are capable, listening to a lot of the conversations today and i that are capable, listening to a lotl of the conversations today and he's been _ of the conversations today and he's been hunted — of the conversations today and he's been hunted down— of the conversations today and he's been hunted down by— of the conversations today and he's been hunted down by the _ of the conversations today and he's been hunted down by the labour. of the conversations today and he's i been hunted down by the labour party because _ been hunted down by the labour party because they — been hunted down by the labour party because they have _ been hunted down by the labour party because they have no _ been hunted down by the labour party because they have no policies - been hunted down by the labour party because they have no policies of- because they have no policies of their— because they have no policies of their own — because they have no policies of their own and _ because they have no policies of their own and all— because they have no policies of their own and all they're - because they have no policies of their own and all they're doing l because they have no policies of| their own and all they're doing is trying _ their own and all they're doing is trying to— their own and all they're doing is trying to get _ their own and all they're doing is trying to get him _ their own and all they're doing is trying to get him out, _ their own and all they're doing is trying to get him out, thinking i trying to get him out, thinking they're — trying to get him out, thinking they're going _ trying to get him out, thinking they're going to _ trying to get him out, thinking they're going to win _ trying to get him out, thinking they're going to win the i trying to get him out, thinking they're going to win the next i they're going to win the next election— they're going to win the next election and _ they're going to win the next election and god _ they're going to win the next election and god help - they're going to win the next election and god help us- they're going to win the next election and god help us if. they're going to win the nexti election and god help us if he they're going to win the next - election and god help us if he does. but i _ election and god help us if he does. but i think— election and god help us if he does. but i think you — election and god help us if he does. but i think you will— election and god help us if he does. but i think you will come _ election and god help us if he does. but i think you will come back, i election and god help us if he does. but i think you will come back, he's| but i think you will come back, he's -ot but i think you will come back, he's got one _ but i think you will come back, he's got one back— but i think you will come back, he's got one back overrun _ but i think you will come back, he's got one back overrun them - but i think you will come back, he's got one back overrun them again, i but i think you will come back, he's. got one back overrun them again, he deserves— got one back overrun them again, he deserves to — got one back overrun them again, he deserves to be — got one back overrun them again, he deserves to be prime _ got one back overrun them again, he deserves to be prime minister, i got one back overrun them again, he | deserves to be prime minister, we've -ot deserves to be prime minister, we've got a _ deserves to be prime minister, we've got a prime _ deserves to be prime minister, we've got a prime minister— deserves to be prime minister, we've got a prime minister who _ deserves to be prime minister, we've got a prime minister who is— got a prime minister who is unelected. _ got a prime minister who is unelected, who— got a prime minister who is unelected, who tells - got a prime minister who is unelected, who tells lies i got a prime minister who is- unelected, who tells lies anyway, all the _ unelected, who tells lies anyway, all the people _ unelected, who tells lies anyway, all the people around _ unelected, who tells lies anyway, all the people around him - unelected, who tells lies anyway, all the people around him are i unelected, who tells lies anyway, all the people around him are the people _ all the people around him are the people that — all the people around him are the people that want _ all the people around him are the people that want to _ all the people around him are the people that want to get _ all the people around him are the people that want to get his i all the people around him are the people that want to get his back. people that want to get his back

into europe _ people that want to get his back into europe and... _ people that want to get his back into europe and... h0, - people that want to get his back into europe and...— people that want to get his back into europe and... no, rishi sunak is a confirmed _ into europe and... no, rishi sunak is a confirmed brexiter. _ into europe and... no, rishi sunak is a confirmed brexiter. confirmed| is a confirmed brexiter. confirmed that... is a confirmed brexiter. confirmed that. .. lawyer-mack— is a confirmed brexiter. confirmed that... lawyer-mack people i is a confirmed brexiter. confirmed that... lawyer-mack people of i is a confirmed brexiter. confirmed that... lawyer-mack people of a l that... lawyer—mack people of a fundamentalist _ that... lawyer—mack people of a fundamentalist religion - that... lawyer—mack people of a fundamentalist religion that i that... lawyer—mack people of a fundamentalist religion that see | fundamentalist religion that see others _ fundamentalist religion that see others believe _ fundamentalist religion that see others believe the _ fundamentalist religion that see others believe the religion i fundamentalist religion that see others believe the religion are l fundamentalist religion that see l others believe the religion are not genuine _ others believe the religion are not genuine coreligionists. _ others believe the religion are not genuine coreligionists. you - others believe the religion are not genuine coreligionists. you get i others believe the religion are not genuine coreligionists. you get in| genuine coreligionists. you get in religion. — genuine coreligionists. you get in religion. you're _ genuine coreligionists. you get in religion, you're not— genuine coreligionists. you get in religion, you're not a _ genuine coreligionists. you get in religion, you're not a real- genuine coreligionists. you get in religion, you're not a real suchi genuine coreligionists. you get in. religion, you're not a real such and such. _ religion, you're not a real such and such. you're — religion, you're not a real such and such. you're not _ religion, you're not a real such and such. you're not a _ religion, you're not a real such and such, you're not a real— religion, you're not a real such and such, you're not a real such - religion, you're not a real such and such, you're not a real such and i such, you're not a real such and such. _ such, you're not a real such and such. i— such, you're not a real such and such. i have _ such, you're not a real such and such, i have the _ such, you're not a real such and such, i have the truth, - such, you're not a real such and such, i have the truth, the i such, you're not a real such and such, i have the truth, the true| such, i have the truth, the true belief_ such, i have the truth, the true belief in— such, i have the truth, the true belief in the _ such, i have the truth, the true belief in the party— such, i have the truth, the true belief in the party parties - such, i have the truth, the true belief in the party parties and l such, i have the truth, the true . belief in the party parties and you don't, _ belief in the party parties and you don't. you — belief in the party parties and you don't. you know_ belief in the party parties and you don't, you know you _ belief in the party parties and you don't, you know you see - belief in the party parties and you don't, you know you see do. - belief in the party parties and you don't, you know you see do. you| belief in the party parties and you i don't, you know you see do. you get that, _ don't, you know you see do. you get that, you _ don't, you know you see do. you get that, you see — don't, you know you see do. you get that. you see part _ don't, you know you see do. you get that, you see part of... _ don't, you know you see do. you get that, you see part of... do— don't, you know you see do. you get that, you see part of... do you - don't, you know you see do. you get that, you see part of... do you heari that, you see part of... do you hear that, _ that, you see part of... do you hear that, regina? — that, you see part of... do you hear that, regina? do— that, you see part of... do you hear that, regina? do you _ that, you see part of... do you hear that, regina? do you hear? - that, you see part of... do you hear that, regina? do you hear? one. that, you see part of... do you hear that, regina? do you hear?- that, regina? do you hear? one of the best prime _ that, regina? do you hear? one of the best prime ministers _ that, regina? do you hear? one of the best prime ministers ever- that, regina? do you hear? one of the best prime ministers ever had. the best prime ministers ever had says vincent? i the best prime ministers ever had says vincent?— says vincent? i strongly beg to differ. think— says vincent? i strongly beg to differ. think of _ says vincent? i strongly beg to differ. think of the _ says vincent? i strongly beg to differ. think of the number - says vincent? i strongly beg to differ. think of the number of. differ. think of the number of deaths during over that were a direct result of the decisions he made and... direct result of the decisions he made and- - -_ direct result of the decisions he made and... , ,, . made and... there is the issue about not auoin made and... there is the issue about not going into _ made and... there is the issue about not going into lockdown _ made and... there is the issue about not going into lockdown soon - made and... there is the issue about | not going into lockdown soon enough. whatever the situation was, to say he is the greatest prime minister this country has ever seen, i mean,

i was not a great thatcher fan before going to look for a great prime minister, she certainly was way better than borisjohnson will ever be. way better than boris johnson will ever be. . .. way better than boris johnson will ever be. . ~ i. way better than boris johnson will ever be. . ~' ,, �* way better than boris johnson will everbe. . ~ , ever be. thank you. andrew gibson, biographer. — ever be. thank you. andrew gibson, biographer. one _ ever be. thank you. andrew gibson, biographer, one of _ ever be. thank you. andrew gibson, biographer, one of the _ ever be. thank you. andrew gibson, biographer, one of the staples - ever be. thank you. andrew gibson, biographer, one of the staples of. biographer, one of the staples of funding is everything over the years and we've been hearing it less and less for obvious reasons, i was not a fan of mrs thatcher but i'll say this for her. there was a touch of that about boris johnson, this for her. there was a touch of that about borisjohnson, his coach is false but i'll say this for him, from those in the so—called red who support him, from those who think that it support him, from those who think thatitis support him, from those who think that it is all worth it for boris johnson, a bit of that, isn't there? yes, but of that, any quality of the dusty, go for it spirit which are some things exactly what is needed, was needed when the vaccine task force was set up, completely outside the totally hopeless department of health, and it was also very valuable when valerie putin invaded

ukraine and boris saw the ball very early on and rallied question support against this completely atrocious vote attacked by valerie putin. the country now wants a period of relative calm, rishi sunak is probably better placed to provide that, the conservative party thrice by providing what it the nation needs in and reckons that the nation needs in and reckons that the nation needs its rishi sunak more than it needs its rishi sunak more than it needsjohnson, so... is it needs johnson, so... is it chloroform _ needs johnson, so... is it chloroform that _ needs johnson, so... is it chloroform that used - needs johnson, so... is it chloroform that used forl needsjohnson, so... is it chloroform that used for people to see? . we chloroform that used for people to see? yes. we need for reform, not calm. see? yes. we need for reform, not aim that's _ see? yes. we need for reform, not calm. that's what _ see? yes. we need for reform, not calm. that's what we _ see? yes we need for reform, not calm. that's what we need right see? 19:3 we need for reform, not calm. that's what we need right now, total sedation. hat calm. that's what we need right now, total sedation.— total sedation. not sedation but calm competent _ total sedation. not sedation but calm competent government, i total sedation. not sedation but - calm competent government, which was probably not what boris johnson calm competent government, which was probably not what borisjohnson was providing. but who knows? any crisis, we do choose horses for courses, there was a crisis in 79 and that she was chosen, a very

grave crisis of a different order of magnitude in 1940, we chose churchill in the middle of the second, first world war which surely is lloyd george and the because he was not a peacetime prime minister. some new stuff in here on boris johnson. an ally of borisjohnson has accused rishi sunak of blocking pages, in an increasingly bitter war of words the ally said richey secretly blocked the peerages for nadeem and others who resigned without further ado on friday, didn't she? rishi sunak secretly blocked the peers, refused to ask them to undergo basic checks that could have taken only a few weeks or days, that is how he kept them off the list without telling boris johnson, borisjohnson has been approached for official comment.

what about all that stuff? i“retell approached for official comment. what about all that stuff? well and ve lad what about all that stuff? well and very glad the _ what about all that stuff? well and very glad the and — what about all that stuff? well and very glad the and single _ what about all that stuff? well and very glad the and single who - what about all that stuff? well and very glad the and single who has i very glad the and single who has worked for borisjohnson since the 19905, great women, has become a dame i think, many of the owners are well served, but there were too many, the house of lords is notoriously too big and he did put up notoriously too big and he did put up too many for peerages, i think. the parliamentary hairdresser. i don't object to that. it the parliamentary hairdresser. i don't object to that. it wasn't i the parliamentary hairdresser. i | don't object to that. it wasn't his hairdresser. _ don't object to that. it wasn't his hairdresser, clearly. _ don't object to that. it wasn't his hairdresser, clearly. the - don't object to that. it wasn't his | hairdresser, clearly. the element don't object to that. it wasn't his l hairdresser, clearly. the element i don't know who recommended the parliamentary hairdresser but why not? i parliamentary hairdresser but why not? . ., , , , parliamentary hairdresser but why not? ,, , . not? i will confess my here also remains untouched _ not? i will confess my here also remains untouched by _ not? i will confess my here also remains untouched by the - remains untouched by the parliamentary hairdresser, i don't know this individual.— know this individual. jenny in glasgow. _ know this individual. jenny in glasgow, we've _ know this individual. jenny in glasgow, we've got - know this individual. jenny in glasgow, we've got you - know this individual. jenny in| glasgow, we've got you back, know this individual. jenny in - glasgow, we've got you back, have your say. i’m glasgow, we've got you back, have oursa.�* . ., your say. i'm back again. put me in touch with — your say. i'm back again. put me in touch with that _ your say. i'm back again. put me in touch with that lady _ your say. i'm back again. put me in touch with that lady regina, - your say. i'm back again. put me in touch with that lady regina, she i your say. i'm back again. put me in touch with that lady regina, she is| touch with that lady regina, she is a wonderful person in my view.

scotland — a wonderful person in my view. scotland did not vote to come out of the uk. _ scotland did not vote to come out of the uk, they came out of the union, so it was— the uk, they came out of the union, so it was hot— the uk, they came out of the union, so it was not totally uk wide. boris was a _ so it was not totally uk wide. boris was a liar— so it was not totally uk wide. boris was a liar and a buffoon when he was in the _ was a liar and a buffoon when he was in the press. — was a liar and a buffoon when he was in the press, a liarand was a liar and a buffoon when he was in the press, a liar and within when he was _ in the press, a liar and within when he was mayor of london, he was a liar and _ he was mayor of london, he was a liar and a — he was mayor of london, he was a liar and a buffoon when he was a mihister— liar and a buffoon when he was a minister and liar and a buffoon when he was a ministerand a prime liar and a buffoon when he was a minister and a prime minister is of a previous— minister and a prime minister is of a previous caller said he spoke eight _ a previous caller said he spoke eight languages. 0ne a previous caller said he spoke eight languages. one of them is not the truth. _ eight languages. one of them is not the truth. and as far as his honours list is _ the truth. and as far as his honours list is concerned, it should be taken — list is concerned, it should be taken away from everyone. it is an antiquated — taken away from everyone. it is an antiquated system, nobody should be doin- antiquated system, nobody should be doing that _ antiquated system, nobody should be doing that for the bodies and the sycophants and certainly not for their— sycophants and certainly not for their father. that's all i want to say _ their father. that's all i want to say -- — their father. that's all i want to say -- for— their father. that's all i want to say. —— fortheir their father. that's all i want to say. —— for their bodies. their father. that's all i want to say. -- for their bodies.- their father. that's all i want to say. -- for their bodies. there you are and you _ say. -- for their bodies. there you are and you said _ say. -- for their bodies. there you are and you said it _ say. -- for their bodies. there you are and you said it was _ say. -- for their bodies. there you are and you said it was great - are and you said it was great passion. thank you. really appreciate you coming in, it's always interesting to hear from you, the inside view. one thing on the

peerages, got some news, i'll put out there, alloc sharma, a man who surely cut his cop 26 contribution. another? added over at all. this is news, a total of 616 people detected crossing the channel in small boats on sunday, the highest daily number so far. the home office has said. if we are moving on politically come onto the next election, that is going to be an absolutely, well, it already is, that's going to be a massive issue. thanks very much for watching and listening this morning. live from london, this is bbc news. the former italian prime minister, silvio berlusconi, has died at the age of 86. ukraine says it's liberated four villages from russian occupation as its counter—offensive gets under way.

british mps investigating whether boris johnson