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donald trump is making history once again as the only former president to be charged with a federal crime. these are live pictures from the wilkie ferguson courthouse in downtown miami. these are live pictures we are getting there. these are protesters who are supporting donald trump. we also have those who are not supporting donald trump. you can see boards there saying lock him up. a little bit further down the way there are supporters who are weaving maga flags and calling this a witchhunt. there have been a lot of interest in what is happening. in fact the local police chief says he expects thousands of people from both sides of the political spectrum to come out to the south miami courthouse. donald trump himself in the last few minutes has been processed ahead of his arraignment. he is expected at some point to then
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head to newjersey later on today where he will immediately begin gathering support and donations. towards his campaign off of the back of what has happened here today. i think we can cross live now to miami. live now to miami and our correspondent nomia iqbal. talk us through what exactly the process is today for donald trump. when trump arrived he was arraigned before he was processed so he went into the courthouse some 14 story glass building and you the charges laid out to him, there with his legal team, entered a plea of not guilty and then he was booked, fingerprints taken, no mug shot, another picture of him will be uploaded and release but it will not
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be a mug shot. then there were some rumours that he might do a walkabout because there are a lot of supporters there but i do not think that will materialise. i will mention that he will then leave to go to maturity. the former president of the us is under arrest which is quite immature and anything to say but it is because he is not considered a flight risk you will not be kept in custody. some developments happening. president biden of course has not commented on this. he's refused to even say anything about this. you have the senator mitch mcconnell the minority leader and he will not way into the indictment which is generally the way he has navigated around donald trump. saying he will not comment and will stay out of it. there are all of protesters walking around the courthouse waving their flags and
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many have signs where they call for president biden to be investigated over classified documents. i will quickly refer to that because president biden is being investigated on his handling of classified documents, about ten documents found in his home in wilmington and also at the headquarters form a former think tank. but the key difference in those cases is that the number is in the hundreds for donald trump and that cooperate with the doj the hundreds for donald trump and that cooperate with the d0] to get those documents back. having said that it does not stop from direct supporters from believing his narrative which that it is a witchhunt. and florida is a very republican leaning state so there are a lot of donald trump supporters here. ,, , , , are a lot of donald trump supporters here. ,, ,, , ., here. stay with us because donald trum's here. stay with us because donald trump's spokesperson _ here. stay with us because donald trump's spokesperson spoke - here. stay with us because donald l trump's spokesperson spoke briefly to reporters outside of the court in miami. i want to play a bit of what she had to say. the
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miami. i want to play a bit of what she had to say-— miami. i want to play a bit of what she had to say. the second branch has the power _ she had to say. the second branch has the power to _ she had to say. the second branch has the power to summarily - has the power to summarily declassified documents. the decision to pursue _ declassified documents. the decision to pursue charges against president trump _ to pursue charges against president trump while turning a blind eye to others _ trump while turning a blind eye to others is _ trump while turning a blind eye to others is emblematic of the corruption we have here. we are at a turning _ corruption we have here. we are at a turning point— corruption we have here. we are at a turning point in our nation's history _ turning point in our nation's history. the targeting, prosecution of a leading political opponent is the type — of a leading political opponent is the type of thing you see in dictatorships. like cuba and venezuela. it is commonplace therefore _ venezuela. it is commonplace therefore rival candidates to be prosecuted, persecuted and put into 'ail. prosecuted, persecuted and put into jait what— prosecuted, persecuted and put into jait what is— prosecuted, persecuted and put into jail. what is being done to president trump should terrify all citizens— president trump should terrify all citizens of— president trump should terrify all citizens of this country. these are not the _ citizens of this country. these are not the ideals that our democracy is founded _ not the ideals that our democracy is founded upon. this is not our our america — founded upon. this is not our our america. thank you. so
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founded upon. this is not our our america. thank you.— america. thank you. so what is happening _ america. thank you. so what is happening right _ america. thank you. so what is happening right now _ america. thank you. so what is happening right now inside - america. thank you. so what is happening right now inside of l america. thank you. so what is l happening right now inside of the courthouse, — happening right now inside of the courthouse, has— happening right now inside of the courthouse, has he _ happening right now inside of the courthouse, has he been- happening right now inside of the. courthouse, has he been arrested, has he _ courthouse, has he been arrested, has he been — courthouse, has he been arrested, has he been fingerprinted, - courthouse, has he been arrested, has he been fingerprinted, has - courthouse, has he been arrested, has he been fingerprinted, has a l courthouse, has he been arrested, i has he been fingerprinted, has a mug shot been— has he been fingerprinted, has a mug shot been taken, _ has he been fingerprinted, has a mug shot been taken, walk _ has he been fingerprinted, has a mug shot been taken, walk us _ has he been fingerprinted, has a mug shot been taken, walk us through - shot been taken, walk us through what _ shot been taken, walk us through what is _ shot been taken, walk us through what is happening? _ shot been taken, walk us through what is happening?— shot been taken, walk us through what is happening? president trump is in a unique — what is happening? president trump is in a unique position _ what is happening? president trump is in a unique position where - what is happening? president trump is in a unique position where he - is in a unique position where he does _ is in a unique position where he does not — is in a unique position where he does not need to be given a mug shot, _ does not need to be given a mug shot, obviously he is not a flight risk, _ shot, obviously he is not a flight risk, the — shot, obviously he is not a flight risk, the leading candidate of the gop at _ risk, the leading candidate of the gop at the moment. he is going through— gop at the moment. he is going through a — gop at the moment. he is going through a process that has been coordinated with secret service and it wiii— coordinated with secret service and it will ali— coordinated with secret service and it will all will be handled seamlessly.— it will all will be handled seamlessl . ., ., , , it will all will be handled seamlessl. ., ., i, . ., seamlessly. the attorneys... what his stance? _ seamlessly. the attorneys... what his stance? he _ seamlessly. the attorneys... what his stance? he is _ seamlessly. the attorneys... what his stance? he is defiant. - seamlessly. the attorneys... what his stance? he is defiant. the - his stance? he is defiant. the attorney and _ his stance? he is defiant. the attorney and spokesperson i his stance? he is defiant. the| attorney and spokesperson for his stance? he is defiant. the - attorney and spokesperson for donald trump. if i can bring back our correspondent, she talked about the biden administration being acting in a similar way biden administration being acting in a similarway to biden administration being acting in a similar way to dictatorships like cuba and venezuela. it is very much from the donald trump supporter
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playbook to, previously in terms of january the 6th, be accused of subverting democracy or try to subverting democracy or try to subvert democracy by saying the election falsely cruising the election falsely cruising the election of being stolen —— accusing and i'll try to subvert the justice system in the united states because what they are basically doing is accusing the justice system in the us of being corrupt and ofjustice being metred out by politicians rather than those working within the judicial system. rather than those working within the judicialsystem. it’s rather than those working within the judicial system-— judicial system. it's all very well and good. _ judicial system. it's all very well and good, donald _ judicial system. it's all very well and good, donald trump's - judicial system. it's all very well. and good, donald trump's lawyers judicial system. it's all very well- and good, donald trump's lawyers and speaking in such hyperbole and saying that this is a witchhunt and a weaponisation of the department of justice but that is fine for the campaign trail, that argument will not stand up in the courtroom. we do not stand up in the courtroom. we do not know exactly what donald trump's defence is at the stage. if you say this is a witchhunt you need to have evidence of that to convince a jury if and when this goes to trial. as i say we do not know yet what his
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defences. we know some his lawyers saying they will try to dismiss the case because they believe that it has been misconduct by the prosecutors, that they think the way the evidence is collected was not right. also we know what donald trump is thinking which is probably the annoyance of his lawyers because he puts on his social media that he thinks he was allowed to declassified document, as a president, just by thinking about is what he said. but that is not the way it works. once you are a former president the stockings are not yours any more they are the government's. so the argument is that he took documents he should not have and did not return them when he had the opportunity. also in the 49 page indictment what is really interesting is this is a pretty damning indictment that the doj has put forward, when he said that he could declassified records automatically even in his mind, there is a recording inside the indictment in which you can be heard
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telling visitors in newjersey where he is heading that he wanted to show them a highly controversial —— confidential military plan but was not able to because it was secret. and he apparently admits that the document remains classified and so it undermines a notion that he declassified everything. so the indictment is pretty watertight, airtight by the department of justice, they certainly think that is the case that they have been investigating for two years. ultimately this will be decided by a jury. ajury of 12 people, they will come from florida, this is a republican leaning state. there is not one person in this day or an america that does not have an opinion of donald trump. so it is a case, can you get an impartialjury and prosecutors say that they can get an impartialjury. we also do not know when that trial will happen and it could go well into the election campaign season and potentially beyond the election in
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november. it potentially beyond the election in november. . . potentially beyond the election in november. , , . , november. it seems quite incredible that there will _ november. it seems quite incredible that there will be _ november. it seems quite incredible that there will be an _ november. it seems quite incredible that there will be an election - november. it seems quite incredible that there will be an election next i that there will be an election next year and that president trump as was said earlier, the lead gop candidate. he said earlier, the lead gop candidate.— said earlier, the lead gop candidate. , . , , candidate. he is and it is very likely that — candidate. he is and it is very likely that he _ candidate. he is and it is very likely that he may _ candidate. he is and it is very likely that he may get - candidate. he is and it is very likely that he may get the - likely that he may get the nomination for the republican party, all suggest that he is way ahead of all suggest that he is way ahead of all of his rivals. the second distant rival is ron desantis. evidence and anecdotally that this will boost his standing amongst voters, whether or not he is the general america public backing again is another thing. it brings up questions. what if he's convicted in a trial, can he still run, what if he is convicted and elected, can he still hold office? these are the sort of battles that could be down the line. remember it is the constitution decides who qualifies for president not congress and if you look at the constitution, there are only three basic qualifications
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you need. over the age of 35, you need to have a natural born citizen and to have lived in the country for at least ia years. those are all of the concert delete —— qualities you need. the only path in which he could have been disqualified from running and holding office was if the senate had impeached in either once or twice in those impeachment wires which they did not do. so if we get to the stage where he is convicted to say whether he is a running or elected, you can expect a lot of constitutional challenges and thatis lot of constitutional challenges and that is just completely, again i will use that cliche word, unprecedented, they'll be a first time it will happen in american political history. ads, time it will happen in american political history.— time it will happen in american political history. a lot of history bein: political history. a lot of history being made _ political history. a lot of history being made today _ political history. a lot of history being made today i _ political history. a lot of history being made today i went - political history. a lot of history being made today i went to - political history. a lot of history being made today i went to just political history. a lot of history . being made today i went to just let viewers know why we are staying with these pictures of the courthouse. the president is in that building, he has been processed ahead of his
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arraignment but we are waiting for that agreement to happen and for him to exit the building. we are not sure what he will do whether he will come out and talk to crowds or whether he is going to go straight into one of his big black suvs and drive to the airport and make his way to his second home in newjersey which is what we are expecting, potentially for him to do. it is all very much in the air what we will see outside of the courtroom today. that is one of the reasons why we are staying with the story. this is as mentioned there, absolutely unprecedented and as so many ways. if i can bring you back in, i was stuck to a legal analyst earlier telling me on how the special counsel, the lead investigatorjack smith said he was a speedy trial. that he wants this to happen quickly, but the legal mind i'm stuck to earlier the tactics of the trump camp is to draw things out as long as they possibly can mainly as
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you mentioned, the election to next year. they want it all to happen after the election as opposed to before. ., , ., , ., after the election as opposed to before. ., , .,, ., ., before. donald trump has a long histo of before. donald trump has a long history of being _ before. donald trump has a long history of being sued, _ before. donald trump has a long history of being sued, lawsuits i before. donald trump has a long l history of being sued, lawsuits and history of being sued, lawsuits and his tactics tend to be to delay, to run down the clock that he cannot be prosecuted any more. the doj has decades on policy which it does not indict a sitting president. donald trump is not a sitting president said this is, pressure on the doj to get this done and have a speedy trial this is not the only investigation on donald trump also investigating the role on the january the 6th capital riots in 2021. that has to come back at some point and could come back in an indictment due back sometime over the summer. there is a lot of pressure to get this done from the doj. in terms of a speedy trial, who knows how long it could take. as i
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mentioned, you need to select the jury, donald trump needs to have a permanent legal team as well. there are also this going on here. so we do not really have a sense of the timeline. but the department of justice of course but want to get this wrapped up as quickly as possible so they can avoid this going into the election campaign season, and to definitely avoid this playing out after the election. we are still waiting for the president, the former president to come out of this building. what are the things that has been fascinating and there are many aspects obviously, butjust looking at the pictures of boxes upon boxes of documents sitting in a bathroom, in a shower room, a ballroom, a bedroom of the mar—a—lago estate. apparently the fbi have found many, many thousands
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of documents. it begs belief that that much was retained for that long after the president left the white house, allegedly. it’s house, allegedly. it's extraordinary. - house, allegedly. it's extraordinary. and i l house, allegedly. it�*s extraordinary. and i did put this to a lot of supporters here and showed them to the supporters —— the pictures and they say they do not believe it and set up by the fbi and that this is all a witch hunt and then you get those who are measured as well. saying, if donald trump did do something wrong we believe in our justice system. we believe he will be held to accounts. if he did something wrong or the evidence shows that he will be fun punished for it. if not he will not be. so you do get people who did not want to entirely undermined the doj but the doj, as far as they are concerned, they are investigating and have subpoenaed a lot of people including allies of donald trump. that based a lot of their own indictment on police reporting memos and pictures and so forth so they think that this case is something
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that they can win in a courtroom. as i mentioned before ultimately it comes down to the 12 jurors. it will only take onejurorfor comes down to the 12 jurors. it will only take one juror for this not to result in a conviction. as i mentioned also, the espionage act is what donald trump, the charges stem from, the 1912 act and it is an interesting one because a lot of people think, does that mean he was accused of spying. we have a life page running at the moment on the website, one question from someone was is he considered a spy. not straightforward, not a spy is how we would consider. the espionage act as a sprawling acted ultimately he has been accused of running afoul of the certain aspects of it such as willfully retaining classified information that he was not authorised to keep and also than obstructing officials who try to get it back who gave him an opportunity to give it back. so that is what he
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is ultimately accused of. there is nothing in the indictment, no evidence offered that suggests he used any of these classified documents for nefarious reasons, that it puts a country address, but there is evidence that the indictment offers that he show those documents to people that should not have seen it. people who were not clear to see it. so that is the damning bit.— clear to see it. so that is the damning bit. staying with these ictures. damning bit. staying with these pictures- stay — damning bit. staying with these pictures. stay with _ damning bit. staying with these pictures. stay with us _ damning bit. staying with these pictures. stay with us but i damning bit. staying with these l pictures. stay with us but staying with these pictures of the outside of that courthouse the reason why is because we are expecting the former president to come out of that building at some point in a short while. we are not sure when. you can see there supporters of former president trump bathing flags and also those who do not support former president trump who are also at the courthouse. just working out where we are going to next. ok, so what we
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will do now is we are going to bring you a little bit of context. a little earlier on i spoke to brian lanza. part of his communication team, donald trump, in fact his former deputy communications director for the trump transition team, i asked director for the trump transition team, iasked him director for the trump transition team, i asked him for his take on today's events.— team, i asked him for his take on today's events. what saddens me is for the country _ today's events. what saddens me is for the country and _ today's events. what saddens me is for the country and for _ today's events. what saddens me is for the country and for trump i today's events. what saddens me is for the country and for trump and l for the country and for trump and those involved but it is now a new stain in our american politics that we now put the opposition in jail. that is just unprecedented here in the us. it feels very putin like tactics and the president has to fight these things and we will see where we end up. putting his
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political opponent, charging his political opponent, charging his political opponent, charging his political opponent with a crime. no. were going to pop out of this interview because there has been a technical issue and you have not heard my amazing intelligent questions and we cannot that. let's go back to the live pictures of the outside of the courthouse and what has been happening in terms of the appearance in front of the florida court. this of course is a developing story because the former president trump is inside of that building, that courthouse. it is absolutely unprecedented, history making that a former president has been put into this position has put himself into this position, whatever you might believe. the department of justice has pursued this case, it is bringing this case in front of a judge. and then that will be decided as to whether or not to push this case to trial where it will be put
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in front of a 12 memberjury. in the last few minutes we have had a press briefing from the white house. the press secretary has been talking about donald trump, in fact she has not been because she's been very tight—lipped about the indictment, and apparently she was asked repeatedly on biden's views on the indictment but largely declined to answer and refused to acknowledge she had been briefed on the matter. saying she would be mindful here with respect to the doj and to let them do theirjob. let's bring back our correspondent, in miami for us and as we watch the ongoing drama outside the courthouse i want to ask you about the process here because it has to be made clear to people watching us at home that this could potentially end up in a jail sentence for the former president,
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but how likely is that in reality? highly likely. some of these charges carry a statutory sentence of around 20 years. there are people who have been prosecuted under the espionage act who have face time in jail for charges that are not so serious as donald trump's. so this is a possibility. just to let you know. obviously this is a spectacle here. you have lots of trump supporters and those who do not like donald trump and lots of media and there was a chicken to sort of walking around the area that we have sealed off while we are broadcasting, i'm not sure what side they support but it is all feeding into the spectacle that you can imagine going on here. and all in front of me you can see trump supporters with flags whether
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they are tooting horns, it is just what happens with i. we saw that with the indictment last time. we do not know if you will come out of the courthouse. it is possible. it is the kind of thing he likes to do. but as far as the booking process it is all about time, it is finished, he is technically under arrest but we do expect him to be leaving the state of florida tonight to head back to newjersey. he state of florida tonight to head back to new jersey.— state of florida tonight to head back to new jersey. back to newjersey. he did mention that he is heading _ back to newjersey. he did mention that he is heading back _ back to newjersey. he did mention that he is heading back to _ back to newjersey. he did mention that he is heading back to new i that he is heading back to new jersey to start immediately, immediately fundraising. this according to him and his team is going to galvanise support for his cause, for his run for the presidency in 202a. cause, for his run for the presidency in 2024.- cause, for his run for the presidency in 2024. yes, it will. when he was — presidency in 2024. yes, it will. when he was indicted _ presidency in 2024. yes, it will. when he was indicted in - presidency in 2024. yes, it will. when he was indicted in new. presidency in 2024. yes, it will. i when he was indicted in new york has pulled and went up and he raised more money. ispoke pulled and went up and he raised more money. i spoke to plenty of people here who believe in his narrative and that it is a political
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witch hunt and it is all about stopping him from getting into the white house. and it works very well with his republican voters. i think it is important not to undermine them too much. at the end of the day they are voters. i spoke to this man in little havana, a cuban—american neighbourhood, supporters of donald trump, pull suggesting more than half voted for him in 2020, sing to me, that donald trump is like moses, he is a gift from god and i said to him, what about all of these cases against him what about the indictment, what about what he has been accused of and he believes it is all part of his journey, is biblical fickle that is meant to be politically persecuted from a higher reason. it is easy for people to market the and laugh but that guy has a vote and he will vote for donald trump. he says if he does get that nomination and into the presidential race. but there are other people who are more measured
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on it. one man i spoke to said he described himself as businessman saying, i hate donald trump but i love donald trump, he is a businessman and he understands money and he also said, if he has done something wrong that he believes that the justice system in the us will find that out and he should be treated like anybody else. so you do have all of these different opinions about the former president. i’m about the former president. i'm bein: about the former president. i'm being told _ about the former president. i'm being told that former president trump as we speak is apparently entering the courtroom, in fact he is already just entered entering the courtroom, in fact he is alreadyjust entered the courtroom, i'm being told, in this hearing in the classified document's case. 0h hearing in the classified document's case. oh to be a fly on that wall. it is a shame we cannot have axis. —— axis. i said oh to be a fly on the wall on that courthouse right now. ~ . the wall on that courthouse right now. . . ., ., ., ., ,
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now. we are not going to get any hotos, now. we are not going to get any photos. no — now. we are not going to get any photos, no videos _ now. we are not going to get any photos, no videos like _ now. we are not going to get any photos, no videos like we - now. we are not going to get any photos, no videos like we did i now. we are not going to get any photos, no videos like we did in i photos, no videos like we did in new york because those were state charges, some of our team inside and could not take out their phones out either. slightly confused thinking that that was over. there is a lot of confusing details coming out but just to confirm, you are right he is entered the courtroom for the arraignment hearing and the classified documents case and we think you will be processed after that. he entered the courtroom with his lawyers, the prosecutorjack smith is in the front row. the hearing has begun —— begun. jack smith laying into him all the way on the carjourneys put on his social media website saying that quote jack smith is a lunatic and deranged and so forth, classic donald trump. so he will be facing him and lay out the case and donald trump will hear those charges in enter a plea. thank ou ve those charges in enter a plea. thank you very much _ those charges in enter a plea. thank you very much for — those charges in enter a plea. thank you very much for keeping _ those charges in enter a plea. thank you very much for keeping us - those charges in enter a plea. thank you very much for keeping us across on what is happening, there you have it, donald trump has entered that
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courtroom for his arraignment hearing. i'm sure that will not take long and will be coming out imminently. we'll of course will be covering that moment as we always do, live here on bbc news. my colleague is waiting in the wings to bring you all of the very latest. so for now at least, don't go anywhere and stay with us on the bbc. hello there. it's been a dry day for many parts of the uk today. and in the sunshine, we have seen the temperatures soaring. we reached a milestone today because, for the first time ever on i3june, the temperature in the uk topped 30 celsius. we reached that milestone in west wales, but also into sussex. fewer storms around, but they have been going across parts of the highlands, some thunderstorms and some very heavy rain. also had a few storms across the western side of northern ireland. but higher pressure building across from scandinavia, tending to ease those storms away and introduce some slightly fresher air, so it should be a bit more comfortable for sleeping. overnight tonight, after those storms move away, it'll be dry, clear. a little bit misty in the southwest
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and maybe up towards some northeastern parts of scotland. but otherwise, clear skies, slightly fresher air, losing that humidity — so temperatures will be a bit lower, and maybe getting down as low as nine celsius in the north east of england. and over the next few days, we keep this warm, dry, and sunny picture going, but it will be cooler at night. and so, as we head into wednesday, sunny skies for much of the uk. the winds are quite light, coming in on an easterly breeze across east anglia and the southeast, 1—2 bits of fair weather cloud developing in the south, and a small chance of a shower up towards the highlands where temperatures will be 2a—25 celsius. could make 30 celsius perhaps in the southeast of england, around the london area. but on thursday, it's a similar sort of story again — dry, sunny conditions, the winds very light, starting to warm up in the eastern side of the uk, chance of a storm later in the hills of wales, and perhaps for northern ireland. but those temperatures are beginning
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to lift across eastern areas, and we're looking at generally highs of 26—27 celsius. things may start to change by the end of the week, higher pressure retreating away, this area of low pressure trying to push in from the atlantic — that's likely to bring more cloud through the day on friday for western parts of the uk, maybe some heavy showers, northern ireland, far west of england and wales, and perhaps into the southwest of scotland. further east, still dry, should be dry for the start of the test match at edgbaston, in the ashes, and temperatures across the eastern side of the uk will be reaching 26—27 celsius again. into the weekend, things do start to change — we're looking at showers developing in more of the uk, and that showery theme continues into next week.
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hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. you're watching the context on bbc news. we'e in the situation that we find ourselves rather frequently in american politics, where there are two separate realities. the 37 counts charged under the espionage act represent the most serious crimes any american can face. it is now a new stain in our- american politics, that we now put the opposition injail.
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