organised, get will get everything organised, get the taxi _ will get everything organised, get the taxi in the right place, make sure _ the taxi in the right place, make sure there — the taxi in the right place, make sure there is food in the dressing room: _ sure there is food in the dressing room, water, whatever you want, that is what _ room, water, whatever you want, that is what a _ room, water, whatever you want, that is what a does. a runnerjust does, makes _ is what a does. a runnerjust does, makes life — is what a does. a runnerjust does, makes life easy for whoever they are working _ makes life easy for whoever they are working for _ makes life easy for whoever they are working for on the show and often they are _ working for on the show and often they are working for an entire show. so i personally have seen how runners — so i personally have seen how runners help on programmes. runners come _ runners help on programmes. runners come to— runners help on programmes. runners come to every show. that is my take on it _ come to every show. that is my take on it. , ., come to every show. that is my take on it. , . , ., , come to every show. that is my take on it. , . , . , , come to every show. that is my take onit. , , on it. runners are usually “ust used for a on it. runners are usually “ust used fora couple — on it. runners are usually “ust used fora couple oft on it. runners are usually “ust used for a couple of days _ on it. runners are usually “ust used for a couple of days when _ on it. runners are usuallyjust used for a couple of days when the - on it. runners are usuallyjust used for a couple of days when the show| for a couple of days when the show is actually — for a couple of days when the show is actually being _ for a couple of days when the show is actually being recorded - for a couple of days when the show is actually being recorded but - for a couple of days when the show is actually being recorded but they| is actually being recorded but they may not _ is actually being recorded but they may not be — is actually being recorded but they may not be around _ is actually being recorded but they may not be around but _ is actually being recorded but they may not be around but they - is actually being recorded but they may not be around but they are i is actually being recorded but they. may not be around but they are unset to help _ may not be around but they are unset to help get _ may not be around but they are unset to help get everything _ may not be around but they are unset to help get everything done _ may not be around but they are unset to help get everything done on - may not be around but they are unset to help get everything done on the i to help get everything done on the day. to help get everything done on the day its— to help get everything done on the da . �* . to help get everything done on the da . r , , to help get everything done on the da . . , ., to help get everything done on the da. . ., to help get everything done on the da . a . ., day. as i say, we are not complacent about this- — day. as i say, we are not complacent about this. with —

day. as i say, we are not complacent about this. with ourselves, - day. as i say, we are not complacent about this. with ourselves, when - day. as i say, we are not complacent about this. with ourselves, when we| about this. with ourselves, when we start looking through again, if there is something where we could tighten up, how runners may be register what they do, there may be something there. you are right, they are runners and they are very happy, they want to do well and most runners are very ambitious, they don't want to stay as runners. they really make things tick.— really make things tick. phillip schofield announced _ really make things tick. phillip schofield announced his - really make things tick. phillip - schofield announced his departure really make things tick. phillip schofield announced his departure on the 20th— schofield announced his departure on the 20th of— schofield announced his departure on the 20th of may and he said, i understand itv has decided the current— understand itv has decided the current situation cannot go on. who made _ current situation cannot go on. who made that— current situation cannot go on. who made that decision? i current situation cannot go on. who made that decision?— made that decision? i did, i sunpose. — made that decision? i did, i suppose, ultimately, - made that decision? i did, i suppose, ultimately, in- made that decision? i did, i | suppose, ultimately, in that made that decision? i did, i - suppose, ultimately, in that these things— suppose, ultimately, in that these things are — suppose, ultimately, in that these things are collective _ suppose, ultimately, in that these things are collective and _ suppose, ultimately, in that these things are collective and they - suppose, ultimately, in that these things are collective and they are. suppose, ultimately, in that these| things are collective and they are a discussion— things are collective and they are a discussion between— things are collective and they are a discussion between producers- things are collective and they are a discussion between producers andi discussion between producers and various— discussion between producers and various other _ discussion between producers and various other people _ discussion between producers and various other people involved. - various other people involved. constant — various other people involved. constant dialogue _ various other people involved. constant dialogue with - various other people involved. constant dialogue with the - various other people involved. - constant dialogue with the agent... if i constant dialogue with the agent... if t can _ constant dialogue with the agent... if t caniust— constant dialogue with the agent... if i canjust expand _ constant dialogue with the agent... if i canjust expand the _ constant dialogue with the agent... if i canjust expand the question, i if i can just expand the question, what you think the situation was that could not go on? the media

speculation. _ that could not go on? the media speculation, it _ that could not go on? the media speculation, it was _ that could not go on? the media speculation, it was amongst - that could not go on? the media speculation, it was amongst the | speculation, it was amongst the staff, _ speculation, it was amongst the staff, amongst— speculation, it was amongst the staff, amongst some _ speculation, it was amongst the staff, amongst some of- speculation, it was amongst the staff, amongst some of them, i speculation, it was amongst the | staff, amongst some of them, it speculation, it was amongst the - staff, amongst some of them, it was, this is— staff, amongst some of them, it was, this is relentless, _ staff, amongst some of them, it was, this is relentless, will— staff, amongst some of them, it was, this is relentless, will it _ staff, amongst some of them, it was, this is relentless, will it ever- staff, amongst some of them, it was, this is relentless, will it ever go- this is relentless, will it ever go away? — this is relentless, will it ever go away? how— this is relentless, will it ever go away? how can— this is relentless, will it ever go away? how can we _ this is relentless, will it ever go away? how can we make - this is relentless, will it ever go away? how can we make this i this is relentless, will it ever go. away? how can we make this sort this is relentless, will it ever go- away? how can we make this sort of programme — away? how can we make this sort of programme with _ away? how can we make this sort of programme with all— away? how can we make this sort of programme with all the _ away? how can we make this sort of programme with all the scrutiny? i programme with all the scrutiny? everybody — programme with all the scrutiny? everybody came, _ programme with all the scrutiny? everybody came, philip _ programme with all the scrutiny? everybody came, philip did - programme with all the scrutiny? everybody came, philip did not. programme with all the scrutiny? - everybody came, philip did not argue against _ everybody came, philip did not argue against it— everybody came, philip did not argue against it or— everybody came, philip did not argue against it or anything, _ everybody came, philip did not argue against it or anything, everything - against it or anything, everything felt it— against it or anything, everything felt it come — against it or anything, everything felt it come to _ against it or anything, everything felt it come to a _ against it or anything, everything felt it come to a natural- against it or anything, everything felt it come to a natural point. i against it or anything, everything. felt it come to a natural point. the whole of the's _ felt it come to a natural point. whole of the's brother was felt it come to a natural point.- whole of the's brother was playing out just _ whole of the's brother was playing out just before whole of the's brother was playing outjust before this whole of the's brother was playing out just before this and there were lots of— out just before this and there were lots of rumours about him as a result— lots of rumours about him as a result of— lots of rumours about him as a result of his brother being in court and all— result of his brother being in court and all the — result of his brother being in court and all the very of the things that emerged — and all the very of the things that emerged there so i think the pressure _ emerged there so i think the pressure on him wasjust enormous actuatty _ pressure on him wasjust enormous actuatty fin — pressure on him was “ust enormous actuall . :: ., actually. on the 20th of may when ou look actually. on the 20th of may when you look forward _ actually. on the 20th of may when you look forward to _ actually. on the 20th of may when you look forward to continue - actually. on the 20th of may when you look forward to continue our i you look forward to continue our relationship with phillip schofield adopted his resignation from itv days later take you by surprise? yes, because it was completely due

to the _ yes, because it was completely due to the fact _ yes, because it was completely due to the fact that _ yes, because it was completely due to the fact that he _ yes, because it was completely due to the fact that he had _ yes, because it was completely due to the fact that he had lied - yes, because it was completely due to the fact that he had lied to - yes, because it was completely due to the fact that he had lied to us - to the fact that he had lied to us all this— to the fact that he had lied to us all this time _ to the fact that he had lied to us all this time and _ to the fact that he had lied to us all this time and he _ to the fact that he had lied to us all this time and he realised - to the fact that he had lied to us all this time and he realised it. all this time and he realised it would — all this time and he realised it would be _ all this time and he realised it would be untenable _ all this time and he realised it would be untenable to - all this time and he realised it would be untenable to work. all this time and he realised it. would be untenable to work with all this time and he realised it- would be untenable to work with all these _ would be untenable to work with all these people — would be untenable to work with all these people that _ would be untenable to work with all these people that he _ would be untenable to work with all these people that he had _ would be untenable to work with all these people that he had been - these people that he had been directly— these people that he had been directly lying _ these people that he had been directly lying over— these people that he had been directly lying over the - these people that he had been directly lying over the years i these people that he had been directly lying over the years to| these people that he had been . directly lying over the years to us about, _ directly lying over the years to us about, so— directly lying over the years to us about, so i— directly lying over the years to us about, so i didn't _ directly lying over the years to us about, so i didn't have _ directly lying over the years to us about, so i didn't have to - directly lying over the years to us about, so i didn't have to make l directly lying over the years to us l about, so i didn't have to make the decision— about, so i didn't have to make the decision about _ about, so i didn't have to make the decision about removing _ about, so i didn't have to make the decision about removing him - about, so i didn't have to make the decision about removing him from i about, so i didn't have to make the i decision about removing him from the several— decision about removing him from the several rutes — decision about removing him from the several rules i— decision about removing him from the several rules i mentioned _ decision about removing him from the several rules i mentioned because - decision about removing him from the several rules i mentioned because he| several rules i mentioned because he chose _ several rules i mentioned because he chose to— several rules i mentioned because he chose to step — several rules i mentioned because he chose to step down _ several rules i mentioned because he chose to step down and _ several rules i mentioned because he chose to step down and said, - several rules i mentioned because he chose to step down and said, i- several rules i mentioned because he chose to step down and said, i am i chose to step down and said, i am leaving _ chose to step down and said, i am leaving the — chose to step down and said, i am leaving the media _ chose to step down and said, i am leaving the media completely. - chose to step down and said, i am| leaving the media completely. but certainty. — leaving the media completely. but certainty. he — leaving the media completely. but certainly, he felt _ leaving the media completely. but certainly, he felt he _ leaving the media completely. but certainly, he felt he could - leaving the media completely. but certainly, he felt he could not- certainly, he felt he could not really — certainly, he felt he could not really expect _ certainly, he felt he could not really expect us _ certainly, he felt he could not really expect us to _ certainly, he felt he could not really expect us to carry- certainly, he felt he could not really expect us to carry on i really expect us to carry on employing _ really expect us to carry on employing him— really expect us to carry on employing him after- really expect us to carry on employing him after he - really expect us to carry on| employing him after he had really expect us to carry on - employing him after he had lied over such an _ employing him after he had lied over such an important _ employing him after he had lied over such an important issue. _ employing him after he had lied over such an important issue. (an- employing him after he had lied over such an important issue. can i- employing him after he had lied over such an important issue.— such an important issue. can i take ou back such an important issue. can i take you back to — such an important issue. can i take you back to the _ such an important issue. can i take you back to the issue _ such an important issue. can i take you back to the issue of _ such an important issue. can i take you back to the issue of runners. . you back to the issue of runners. there are reports that this young man made his own show real on the this morning set at itv�*s expense, using all the production team that were in and around the set at this time after normal working hours. is that a sort of facility that is made available to all runners? i

that a sort of facility that is made available to all runners?- available to all runners? i think, if requested. — available to all runners? i think, if requested, it _ available to all runners? i think, if requested, it would _ available to all runners? i think, if requested, it would normally. available to all runners? i think, i if requested, it would normally be granted _ if requested, it would normally be granted if— if requested, it would normally be granted. if suddenly— if requested, it would normally be granted. if suddenly there - if requested, it would normally be granted. if suddenly there were i if requested, it would normally be granted. if suddenly there were al granted. if suddenly there were a ftoodgate — granted. if suddenly there were a ftoodgate on _ granted. if suddenly there were a floodgate on the _ granted. if suddenly there were a floodgate on the 30 _ granted. if suddenly there were a floodgate on the 30 people - granted. if suddenly there were a floodgate on the 30 people were | floodgate on the 30 people were saying. _ floodgate on the 30 people were saying. i— floodgate on the 30 people were saying. iwant— floodgate on the 30 people were saying. i want to _ floodgate on the 30 people were saying, i want to do _ floodgate on the 30 people were saying, i want to do a _ floodgate on the 30 people were saying, i want to do a if- floodgate on the 30 people were saying, i want to do a if you - floodgate on the 30 people were saying, i want to do a if you are i saying, i want to do a if you are very— saying, i want to do a if you are very firmly— saying, i want to do a if you are very firmly with _ saying, i want to do a if you are very firmly with the _ saying, i want to do a if you are j very firmly with the presenters, because — very firmly with the presenters, because in— very firmly with the presenters, because in effect, _ very firmly with the presenters, because in effect, it _ very firmly with the presenters, because in effect, it is - very firmly with the presenters, because in effect, it is a - very firmly with the presenters, . because in effect, it is a minimum, ithink— because in effect, it is a minimum, i think it _ because in effect, it is a minimum, i think it was — because in effect, it is a minimum, i think it was one _ because in effect, it is a minimum, i think it was one camera, - because in effect, it is a minimum, i think it was one camera, i- because in effect, it is a minimum, i think it was one camera, i don't . i think it was one camera, i don't know, _ i think it was one camera, i don't know. but— i think it was one camera, i don't know. but it _ i think it was one camera, i don't know. but it is _ i think it was one camera, i don't know, but it is about— i think it was one camera, i don't know, but it is about having - i think it was one camera, i don't i know, but it is about having phillip and hoily— know, but it is about having phillip and holly prepared _ know, but it is about having phillip and holly prepared to _ know, but it is about having phillip and holly prepared to stay - know, but it is about having phillip and holly prepared to stay on - know, but it is about having phillip and holly prepared to stay on for i know, but it is about having phillip| and holly prepared to stay on for 15 minutes— and holly prepared to stay on for 15 minutes afterwards _ and holly prepared to stay on for 15 minutes afterwards to _ and holly prepared to stay on for 15 minutes afterwards to talk- and holly prepared to stay on for 15 minutes afterwards to talk to - and holly prepared to stay on for 15 minutes afterwards to talk to you . minutes afterwards to talk to you about _ minutes afterwards to talk to you about doing — minutes afterwards to talk to you about doing your— minutes afterwards to talk to you about doing your show— minutes afterwards to talk to you about doing your show reel. - minutes afterwards to talk to you about doing your show reel. this| about doing your show reel. this would _ about doing your show reel. this would not — about doing your show reel. this would not be _ about doing your show reel. this would not be the _ about doing your show reel. this would not be the first _ about doing your show reel. this would not be the first time. - about doing your show reel. this would not be the first time. there was philip. _ would not be the first time. there was philip, holly, _ would not be the first time. there was philip, holly, a _ would not be the first time. there was philip, holly, a cookery - was philip, holly, a cookery section, surely this must have been over and above the support that itv would have offered? surely this shows some kind of preferential treatment?— shows some kind of preferential treatment? ., ., , ., ., treatment? none of us would have known that — treatment? none of us would have known that that _ treatment? none of us would have known that that show _ treatment? none of us would have known that that show reel - treatment? none of us would have known that that show reel was - treatment? none of us would have i known that that show reel was being made _ known that that show reel was being made and _ known that that show reel was being made and i— known that that show reel was being made and i would say that i think runners— made and i would say that i think runners are — made and i would say that i think runners are usually very ambitious and they— runners are usually very ambitious and they will want to make their books, — and they will want to make their books, they will want to do their video— books, they will want to do their video reels, they will want that

because — video reels, they will want that because they want otherjobs, they want to— because they want otherjobs, they want to show they can do. so, i don't _ want to show they can do. so, i don't know— want to show they can do. so, i don't know of another instance but i would _ don't know of another instance but i would not _ don't know of another instance but i would not know, it would not occur to me _ would not know, it would not occur to me that — would not know, it would not occur to me that somebody else would do this. to me that somebody else would do this i_ to me that somebody else would do this ithink— to me that somebody else would do this. i think the fact that most of it, this. i think the fact that most of it. as _ this. i think the fact that most of it. as far— this. i think the fact that most of it. as far as _ this. i think the fact that most of it. as faras t _ this. i think the fact that most of it, as far as i saw, was cut and paste — it, as far as i saw, was cut and paste from _ it, as far as i saw, was cut and paste from some other programmes but he did _ paste from some other programmes but he did interview phil, holly, ruth and eamon on the show reel and i am not sure _ and eamon on the show reel and i am not sure that — and eamon on the show reel and i am not sure that would have aroused in daytime, _ not sure that would have aroused in daytime, match. if the head of daytime — daytime, match. if the head of daytime had been worried about that, she would _ daytime had been worried about that, she would have done something about it. she would have done something about it she _ she would have done something about it. she would have called him aside and said. _ it. she would have called him aside and said, what are you doing, white were _ and said, what are you doing, white were you _ and said, what are you doing, white were you doing it? generally, people are very— were you doing it? generally, people are very encouraging about runners, they want— are very encouraging about runners, they want them to do well. to are very encouraging about runners, they want them to do well.— they want them to do well. to be clear, they want them to do well. to be clear. this _ they want them to do well. to be clear. this is _ they want them to do well. to be clear, this is a _ they want them to do well. to be clear, this is a service _ they want them to do well. to be clear, this is a service that - they want them to do well. to be clear, this is a service that would j clear, this is a service that would be equally open to any other runners working? it be equally open to any other runners workin: ? ., , , ., . working? it would be very informal of course so _ working? it would be very informal of course so you _ working? it would be very informal of course so you would _ working? it would be very informal of course so you would need - working? it would be very informal of course so you would need the i of course so you would need the producer— of course so you would need the producer to _ of course so you would need the producer to agree _

of course so you would need the producer to agree and _ of course so you would need the producer to agree and whatever| producer to agree and whatever members — producer to agree and whatever members of— producer to agree and whatever members of the _ producer to agree and whatever members of the crew _ producer to agree and whatever members of the crew you - producer to agree and whatever . members of the crew you needed, producer to agree and whatever - members of the crew you needed, they would _ members of the crew you needed, they would have _ members of the crew you needed, they would have to _ members of the crew you needed, they would have to agree _ members of the crew you needed, they would have to agree and _ members of the crew you needed, they would have to agree and in— members of the crew you needed, they would have to agree and in this - would have to agree and in this case: _ would have to agree and in this case, philip. _ would have to agree and in this case, philip, holly, _ would have to agree and in this case, philip, holly, ruth- would have to agree and in this case, philip, holly, ruth and. would have to agree and in this - case, philip, holly, ruth and eamon woodatt— case, philip, holly, ruth and eamon woodatt have — case, philip, holly, ruth and eamon woodall have had _ case, philip, holly, ruth and eamon woodall have had to _ case, philip, holly, ruth and eamon woodall have had to agree. - case, philip, holly, ruth and eamon woodall have had to agree. so - case, philip, holly, ruth and eamon woodall have had to agree. so you i woodall have had to agree. so you would _ woodall have had to agree. so you would have — woodall have had to agree. so you would have to _ woodall have had to agree. so you would have to be _ woodall have had to agree. so you would have to be unpretty- woodall have had to agree. so you would have to be unpretty good i woodall have had to agree. so you . would have to be unpretty good terms to get _ would have to be unpretty good terms to get everyone — would have to be unpretty good terms to get everyone to _ would have to be unpretty good terms to get everyone to say, _ would have to be unpretty good terms to get everyone to say, yes, - would have to be unpretty good terms to get everyone to say, yes, of - to get everyone to say, yes, of course _ to get everyone to say, yes, of course we — to get everyone to say, yes, of course we will _ to get everyone to say, yes, of course we will hang _ to get everyone to say, yes, of course we will hang around - to get everyone to say, yes, of course we will hang around for| to get everyone to say, yes, of i course we will hang around for 20 meds— course we will hang around for 20 meds and — course we will hang around for 20 meds and help _ course we will hang around for 20 meds and help you _ course we will hang around for 20 meds and help you out. _ course we will hang around for 20 meds and help you out. your- course we will hang around for 20 meds and help you out. your question if we would do — meds and help you out. your question if we would do this _ meds and help you out. your question if we would do this for— meds and help you out. your question if we would do this for anybody - if we would do this for anybody else, _ if we would do this for anybody else, as — if we would do this for anybody else, as long as it was not getting on the _ else, as long as it was not getting on the way— else, as long as it was not getting on the way of the show and we could help people, whatever level they are, to _ help people, whatever level they are, to get their next role, we would — are, to get their next role, we would do _ are, to get their next role, we would do that. we are very encouraging.— would do that. we are very encourauain. ., . ., . . ., encouraging. you are not aware of an other encouraging. you are not aware of any other runners's _ encouraging. you are not aware of any other runners's we _ encouraging. you are not aware of any other runners's we have - encouraging. you are not aware of any other runners's we have not i encouraging. you are not aware of. any other runners's we have not been asked and we have not looked. sorry if i have missed this but did phillip schofield have any role in helping the young man secure employment at itv in the first place? employment at itv in the first lace? ., . , ., place? he introduced person x into itv. do place? he introduced person x into ltv- do you — place? he introduced person x into ltv- do you want — place? he introduced person x into itv. do you want to _ place? he introduced person x into itv. do you want to do _ place? he introduced person x into itv. do you want to do the - place? he introduced person x into itv. do you want to do the data - itv. do you want to do the data seguence — itv. do you want to do the data sequence of this because it is quite

important. — sequence of this because it is quite important, and the age was mark person— important, and the age was mark person x— important, and the age was mark person x first got employment with itv person x first got employment with ltv in— person x first got employment with itv in 2016 when they were 20 years old. , ., , , . , . old. the previous year, they had done work _ old. the previous year, they had done work experience. - old. the previous year, they had done work experience. we - old. the previous year, they had done work experience. we now. done work experience. we now understand, _ done work experience. we now understand, looking _ done work experience. we now understand, looking back- done work experience. we now understand, looking back into. done work experience. we now. understand, looking back into it, and having — understand, looking back into it, and having seen— understand, looking back into it, and having seen the _ understand, looking back into it, and having seen the phillip- and having seen the phillip schofield _ and having seen the phillip schofield interview- and having seen the phillip schofield interview at - and having seen the phillip schofield interview at the i and having seen the phillip- schofield interview at the time, or interview— schofield interview at the time, or interview couple _ schofield interview at the time, or interview couple of— schofield interview at the time, or interview couple of weeks - schofield interview at the time, or interview couple of weeks ago, . schofield interview at the time, or. interview couple of weeks ago, that he passed _ interview couple of weeks ago, that he passed the — interview couple of weeks ago, that he passed the person _ interview couple of weeks ago, that he passed the person x _ interview couple of weeks ago, that he passed the person x asked - interview couple of weeks ago, that he passed the person x asked for. he passed the person x asked for some _ he passed the person x asked for some experience, _ he passed the person x asked for some experience, philip - he passed the person x asked for some experience, philip passed i some experience, philip passed details — some experience, philip passed details of— some experience, philip passed details of who _ some experience, philip passed details of who to _ some experience, philip passed details of who to contact - some experience, philip passed details of who to contact at - some experience, philip passedj details of who to contact at itv. the individual— details of who to contact at itv. the individual filled _ details of who to contact at itv. the individual filled in _ details of who to contact at itv. the individual filled in a - details of who to contact at itv. the individual filled in a form i details of who to contact at itv. the individual filled in a form in| the individual filled in a form in the normal— the individual filled in a form in the normal way— the individual filled in a form in the normal way but _ the individual filled in a form in the normal way but stopped - the individual filled in a form in the normal way but stopped toi the individual filled in a form in i the normal way but stopped to put this into _ the normal way but stopped to put this into context, _ the normal way but stopped to put this into context, we _ the normal way but stopped to put this into context, we do— the normal way but stopped to put this into context, we do about i the normal way but stopped to put this into context, we do about 250j this into context, we do about 250 work— this into context, we do about 250 work placements— this into context, we do about 250 work placements are _ this into context, we do about 250 work placements are year - this into context, we do about 250 work placements are year and i this into context, we do about 250. work placements are year and there are about _ work placements are year and there are about 50 — work placements are year and there are about 50 to _ work placements are year and there are about 50 to 60 _ work placements are year and there are about 50 to 60 in _ work placements are year and there are about 50 to 60 in daytime i work placements are year and there are about 50 to 60 in daytime eachl are about 50 to 60 in daytime each year _ are about 50 to 60 in daytime each year the _ are about 50 to 60 in daytime each year. the individual— are about 50 to 60 in daytime each year. the individual filled _ are about 50 to 60 in daytime each year. the individual filled in- are about 50 to 60 in daytime each year. the individual filled in that i year. the individual filled in that the connection— year. the individual filled in that the connection was _ year. the individual filled in that the connection was a _ year. the individual filled in that the connection was a family - year. the individual filled in that. the connection was a family friend, he was _ the connection was a family friend, he was a _ the connection was a family friend, he was a family— the connection was a family friend, he was a family friend _ the connection was a family friend, he was a family friend of _ the connection was a family friend, he was a family friend of phillip - he was a family friend of phillip schofield — he was a family friend of phillip schofield. no _ he was a family friend of phillip schofield. no one _ he was a family friend of phillip schofield. no one thought - he was a family friend of phillip - schofield. no one thought anything of that _ schofield. no one thought anything ofthat many— schofield. no one thought anything of that. many people _ schofield. no one thought anything

of that. many people put _ schofield. no one thought anything of that. many people put forward . of that. many people put forward individuals — of that. many people put forward individuals who _ of that. many people put forward individuals who are _ of that. many people put forward individuals who are family - of that. many people put forward | individuals who are family friends for work— individuals who are family friends for work experience. _ individuals who are family friends for work experience. we - individuals who are family friends for work experience. we have - individuals who are family friends for work experience. we have a l individuals who are family friends i for work experience. we have a lot of that _ for work experience. we have a lot of that at _ for work experience. we have a lot of that at w _ for work experience. we have a lot of that at itv. he _ for work experience. we have a lot of that at itv. he did _ for work experience. we have a lot ofthat at itv. he did his— for work experience. we have a lot of that at itv. he did his work - of that at itv. he did his work experiehce _ of that at itv. he did his work experience aged _ of that at itv. he did his work experience aged 19 _ of that at itv. he did his work experience aged 19 for- of that at itv. he did his work| experience aged 19 for roughly of that at itv. he did his work - experience aged 19 for roughly two weeks _ experience aged 19 for roughly two weeks he — experience aged 19 for roughly two weeks he came _ experience aged 19 for roughly two weeks. he came back— experience aged 19 for roughly two weeks. he came back the - experience aged 19 for roughly two| weeks. he came back the following year and _ weeks. he came back the following year and did — weeks. he came back the following year and did some _ weeks. he came back the following year and did some more _ weeks. he came back the following year and did some more work- year and did some more work experience _ year and did some more work experiehce and _ year and did some more work experience and impressed - year and did some more work- experience and impressed people. people _ experience and impressed people. pecpie thought. _ experience and impressed people. people thought, and _ experience and impressed people. people thought, and i— experience and impressed people. people thought, and i think- experience and impressed people. | people thought, and i think anyone who has— people thought, and i think anyone who has commented, _ people thought, and i think anyone who has commented, who- people thought, and i think anyone who has commented, who has- people thought, and i think anyone . who has commented, who has known people thought, and i think anyone - who has commented, who has known of the individual. _ who has commented, who has known of the individual, who— who has commented, who has known of the individual, who has— who has commented, who has known of the individual, who has commented - the individual, who has commented over the _ the individual, who has commented over the last — the individual, who has commented over the last few— the individual, who has commented over the last few weeks, _ the individual, who has commented over the last few weeks, everyone i over the last few weeks, everyone has said _ over the last few weeks, everyone has said he — over the last few weeks, everyone has said he was— over the last few weeks, everyone has said he was an _ over the last few weeks, everyone has said he was an impressive - has said he was an impressive individual— has said he was an impressive individual and _ has said he was an impressive individual and much _ has said he was an impressive individual and much liked - has said he was an impressive individual and much liked and| has said he was an impressive i individual and much liked and did has said he was an impressive - individual and much liked and did a good _ individual and much liked and did a good ioh _ individual and much liked and did a good ioh he — individual and much liked and did a good ioh he did _ individual and much liked and did a good job. he did well— individual and much liked and did a good job. he did well in _ individual and much liked and did a good job. he did well in his- individual and much liked and did a good job. he did well in his work. good job. he did well in his work placement — good job. he did well in his work placement and _ good job. he did well in his work placement and as _ good job. he did well in his work placement and as with _ good job. he did well in his work placement and as with all - good job. he did well in his worki placement and as with all runners who do— placement and as with all runners who do wett— placement and as with all runners who do well in _ placement and as with all runners who do well in basements, - placement and as with all runners who do well in basements, they. placement and as with all runners . who do well in basements, they put onto a _ who do well in basements, they put onto a runner— who do well in basements, they put onto a runner pool, _ who do well in basements, they put onto a runner pool, a _ who do well in basements, they put onto a runner pool, a rotor- who do well in basements, they put onto a runner pool, a rotor where, i onto a runner pool, a rotor where, if there _ onto a runner pool, a rotor where, if there are — onto a runner pool, a rotor where, if there are gaps— onto a runner pool, a rotor where, if there are gaps or— onto a runner pool, a rotor where, if there are gaps or vacancies, - onto a runner pool, a rotor where,| if there are gaps or vacancies, they can be _ if there are gaps or vacancies, they can be called — if there are gaps or vacancies, they can be called upon— if there are gaps or vacancies, they can be called upon to _ if there are gaps or vacancies, they can be called upon to work - if there are gaps or vacancies, they can be called upon to work on - can be called upon to work on programmes _ can be called upon to work on programmes. so _ can be called upon to work on programmes. so he _ can be called upon to work on programmes. so he went- can be called upon to work on programmes. so he went into can be called upon to work on - programmes. so he went into the runner— programmes. so he went into the runner pool. _ programmes. so he went into the runner pool, which _ programmes. so he went into the runner pool, which is— programmes. so he went into the runner pool, which is not- programmes. so he went into thel runner pool, which is not managed programmes. so he went into the - runner pool, which is not managed by any of— runner pool, which is not managed by any of the _ runner pool, which is not managed by any of the talent, _ runner pool, which is not managed by any of the talent, it _ runner pool, which is not managed by any of the talent, it is _ runner pool, which is not managed by any of the talent, it is managed - runner pool, which is not managed by any of the talent, it is managed by. any of the talent, it is managed by our production _ any of the talent, it is managed by our production team, _ any of the talent, it is managed by our production team, and - any of the talent, it is managed by our production team, and he - any of the talent, it is managed by our production team, and he was i our production team, and he was offered _ our production team, and he was

offered a — our production team, and he was offered a short _ our production team, and he was offered a short contract - our production team, and he was offered a short contract when - our production team, and he was offered a short contract when he| our production team, and he was - offered a short contract when he was 20 and _ offered a short contract when he was 20 and 2016 — offered a short contract when he was 20 and 2010 he _ offered a short contract when he was 20 and 2016. he did _ offered a short contract when he was 20 and 2016. he did well— offered a short contract when he was 20 and 2016. he did well in - offered a short contract when he was 20 and 2016. he did well in that- offered a short contract when he was 20 and 2016. he did well in that and| 20 and 2016. he did well in that and that became — 20 and 2016. he did well in that and that became a — 20 and 2016. he did well in that and that became a longer—term - 20 and 2016. he did well in that and that became a longer—term fixed . that became a longer—term fixed contract — that became a longer—term fixed contract with _ that became a longer—term fixed contract with itv. _ that became a longer—term fixed contract with itv. till— that became a longer-term fixed contract with itv.— contract with itv. all of us get e-mails all — contract with itv. all of us get e-mails all the _ contract with itv. all of us get e-mails all the time _ contract with itv. all of us get e-mails all the time from - contract with itv. all of us get i e-mails all the time from people e—mails all the time from people wanting work experience. i always say, i only take paid staff so it is not what you know but who you know in the industry. it is not what you know but who you know in the industry-— in the industry. it is a good point. we do a number— in the industry. it is a good point. we do a number of _ in the industry. it is a good point. we do a number of things - in the industry. it is a good point. we do a number of things on - in the industry. it is a good point. | we do a number of things on work experience — we do a number of things on work experience we _ we do a number of things on work experience. we want _ we do a number of things on work experience. we want to _ we do a number of things on work experience. we want to do - we do a number of things on work experience. we want to do a - we do a number of things on work experience. we want to do a lot . we do a number of things on work| experience. we want to do a lot of work— experience. we want to do a lot of work experience _ experience. we want to do a lot of work experience but _ experience. we want to do a lot of work experience but actually, - experience. we want to do a lot of work experience but actually, it i experience. we want to do a lot of work experience but actually, it is| work experience but actually, it is quite _ work experience but actually, it is quite a _ work experience but actually, it is quite a hard — work experience but actually, it is quite a hard thing _ work experience but actually, it is quite a hard thing to— work experience but actually, it is quite a hard thing to do— work experience but actually, it is quite a hard thing to do because i work experience but actually, it is i quite a hard thing to do because you have to _ quite a hard thing to do because you have to chaperone _ quite a hard thing to do because you have to chaperone people _ quite a hard thing to do because you have to chaperone people who - quite a hard thing to do because youi have to chaperone people who come quite a hard thing to do because you i have to chaperone people who come in for work— have to chaperone people who come in for work experience, _ have to chaperone people who come in for work experience, so _ have to chaperone people who come in for work experience, so it _ have to chaperone people who come in for work experience, so it is _ for work experience, so it is intense _ for work experience, so it is intense on _ for work experience, so it is intense on resources. - for work experience, so it is intense on resources. you l for work experience, so it is . intense on resources. you have for work experience, so it is - intense on resources. you have to do a good _ intense on resources. you have to do a good work— intense on resources. you have to do a good work experience _ intense on resources. you have to do a good work experience programme, | intense on resources. you have to do. a good work experience programme, so this was— a good work experience programme, so this was ten— a good work experience programme, so this was ten days — a good work experience programme, so this was ten days and _ a good work experience programme, so this was ten days and would _ a good work experience programme, so this was ten days and would have - this was ten days and would have been _ this was ten days and would have been done — this was ten days and would have been done properly. _ this was ten days and would have been done properly. your- this was ten days and would have. been done properly. your absolute i’i l i'it been done properly. your absolute right because _ been done properly. your absolute right because we _ been done properly. your absolute right because we all— been done properly. your absolute right because we all get _ been done properly. your absolute right because we all get these - right because we all get these e-mails — right because we all get these e—mails about— right because we all get these e—mails about work— right because we all get these i e—mails about work experience. right because we all get these - e—mails about work experience. we do work very— e—mails about work experience. we do work very formally, _ e—mails about work experience. we do work very formally, we _ e—mails about work experience. we do work very formally, we have _ e—mails about work experience. we do work very formally, we have a - e—mails about work experience. we do work very formally, we have a very - work very formally, we have a very formal _ work very formally, we have a very formal way — work very formally, we have a very formal way of _ work very formally, we have a very formal way of doing _ work very formally, we have a very formal way of doing this. _ work very formally, we have a very formal way of doing this. we - work very formally, we have a very formal way of doing this. we work| formal way of doing this. we work with creative — formal way of doing this. we work with creative access _ formal way of doing this. we work with creative access so _ formal way of doing this. we work with creative access so that - formal way of doing this. we work with creative access so that we . formal way of doing this. we work| with creative access so that we can -ive with creative access so that we can give work — with creative access so that we can give work experience _ with creative access so that we can give work experience to _ with creative access so that we can give work experience to people - with creative access so that we can i give work experience to people from very different — give work experience to people from very different backgrounds _

give work experience to people from very different backgrounds so - give work experience to people from very different backgrounds so that l very different backgrounds so that we get _ very different backgrounds so that we qet social— very different backgrounds so that we get social mobility _ very different backgrounds so that we get social mobility and - very different backgrounds so thati we get social mobility and diversity and a _ we get social mobility and diversity and a whole — we get social mobility and diversity and a whole range _ we get social mobility and diversity and a whole range of— we get social mobility and diversity and a whole range of people - we get social mobility and diversity and a whole range of people that l and a whole range of people that would _ and a whole range of people that would look — and a whole range of people that would look at _ and a whole range of people that would look at opportunities - and a whole range of people that. would look at opportunities because they would — would look at opportunities because they would not— would look at opportunities because they would not know _ would look at opportunities because they would not know someone - would look at opportunities because they would not know someone whoi they would not know someone who would _ they would not know someone who would be _ they would not know someone who would be able _ they would not know someone who would be able to _ they would not know someone who would be able to do _ they would not know someone who would be able to do this. _ they would not know someone who would be able to do this. so- they would not know someone who would be able to do this. so we - they would not know someone who would be able to do this. so we do| would be able to do this. so we do that but— would be able to do this. so we do that but in— would be able to do this. so we do that but in addition, _ would be able to do this. so we do that but in addition, in— would be able to do this. so we do that but in addition, in our- would be able to do this. so we do that but in addition, in our policy, i that but in addition, in our policy, it says _ that but in addition, in our policy, it says you — that but in addition, in our policy, it says you can, _ that but in addition, in our policy, it says you can, as— that but in addition, in our policy, it says you can, as somebody - that but in addition, in our policy, i it says you can, as somebody who works _ it says you can, as somebody who works at _ it says you can, as somebody who works at w _ it says you can, as somebody who works at itv, what _ it says you can, as somebody who works at itv, what you _ it says you can, as somebody who works at itv, what you can - it says you can, as somebody who works at itv, what you can do - it says you can, as somebody who works at itv, what you can do is i works at itv, what you can do is 'ust works at itv, what you can do is just put— works at itv, what you can do is just put them _ works at itv, what you can do is just put them in— works at itv, what you can do is just put them in to _ works at itv, what you can do is just put them in to the - works at itv, what you can do is just put them in to the right - works at itv, what you can do is i just put them in to the right person so there _ just put them in to the right person so there is— just put them in to the right person so there is a — just put them in to the right person so there is a line _ just put them in to the right person so there is a line manager- just put them in to the right person so there is a line manager that - so there is a line manager that deals— so there is a line manager that deals with _ so there is a line manager that deals with it _ so there is a line manager that deals with it and _ so there is a line manager that deals with it and then - so there is a line manager that deals with it and then if - so there is a line manager that deals with it and then if they. so there is a line manager that i deals with it and then if they can do it. _ deals with it and then if they can do it. they— deals with it and then if they can do it. they do _ deals with it and then if they can do it, they do it— deals with it and then if they can do it, they do it and _ deals with it and then if they can do it, they do it and if— deals with it and then if they can do it, they do it and if they - deals with it and then if they can. do it, they do it and if they cannot do it, they do it and if they cannot do it, _ do it, they do it and if they cannot do it. they— do it, they do it and if they cannot do it. they want _ do it, they do it and if they cannot do it, they want to _ do it, they do it and if they cannot do it, they want to do _ do it, they do it and if they cannot do it, they want to do it. - do it, they do it and if they cannot do it, they want to do it. those i do it, they do it and if they cannotl do it, they want to do it. those are the two _ do it, they want to do it. those are the two channels _ do it, they want to do it. those are the two channels for— do it, they want to do it. those are the two channels for work- do it, they want to do it. those are l the two channels for work experience at w _ the two channels for work experience at itv. ., ,., ., the two channels for work experience at itv. ., ., ., , ., at itv. you said that agents are involved. _ at itv. you said that agents are involved. l _ at itv. you said that agents are involved, i am _ at itv. you said that agents are involved, i am trying _ at itv. you said that agents are involved, i am trying to - at itv. you said that agents are - involved, i am trying to understand, is it the management company, just what is their role in this? you told us when you were first aware of rumours swirling around and you started probing a bit, if they had been aware of concerns, with a have said anything or are they a supplier that does not want to fall out with itv? ., . ., , ., , it

itv? kevin and can explain this. it is a lane itv? kevin and can explain this. it is a large agency _ itv? kevin and can explain this. it is a large agency of _ itv? kevin and can explain this. it is a large agency of mainly - is a large agency of mainly presenters _ is a large agency of mainly presenters. we _ is a large agency of mainly presenters. we have - is a large agency of mainly presenters. we have had i is a large agency of mainlyj presenters. we have had a is a large agency of mainly- presenters. we have had a long workinq — presenters. we have had a long working relationship— presenters. we have had a long working relationship with - presenters. we have had a long working relationship with them. presenters. we have had a long - working relationship with them. what is our working relationship with them. what is your question? _ working relationship with them. is your question? their relationship with itv? would they have raised alarm bells?— alarm bells? yes, they certainly would if they — alarm bells? yes, they certainly would if they thought _ alarm bells? yes, they certainly| would if they thought something surprisinq, — would if they thought something surprising, untoward. _ would if they thought something surprising, untoward. probably. would if they thought something i surprising, untoward. probably first off, they— surprising, untoward. probably first off, they would _ surprising, untoward. probably first off, they would go _ surprising, untoward. probably first off, they would go to _ surprising, untoward. probably first off, they would go to the _ surprising, untoward. probably first off, they would go to the produceri off, they would go to the producer off, they would go to the producer of whatever— off, they would go to the producer of whatever show _ off, they would go to the producer of whatever show because - off, they would go to the producer of whatever show because that - off, they would go to the producer i of whatever show because that would be their— of whatever show because that would be their contact. _ of whatever show because that would be their contact. it _ of whatever show because that would be their contact. it would _ of whatever show because that would be their contact. it would be - of whatever show because that would be their contact. it would be the - be their contact. it would be the producer— be their contact. it would be the producer in— be their contact. it would be the producer in effect _ be their contact. it would be the producer in effect who _ be their contact. it would be the producer in effect who chose - be their contact. it would be the | producer in effect who chose the hiring _ producer in effect who chose the hiring of— producer in effect who chose the hiring of whoever— producer in effect who chose the hiring of whoever is _ producer in effect who chose the hiring of whoever is on _ producer in effect who chose the hiring of whoever is on a - producer in effect who chose the hiring of whoever is on a screeni producer in effect who chose the l hiring of whoever is on a screen so they— hiring of whoever is on a screen so they would — hiring of whoever is on a screen so they would have _ hiring of whoever is on a screen so they would have a _ hiring of whoever is on a screen so they would have a regular- hiring of whoever is on a screen so they would have a regular contacti they would have a regular contact with the _ they would have a regular contact with the producer— they would have a regular contact with the producer of _ they would have a regular contact with the producer of the - they would have a regular contact with the producer of the a - they would have a regular contact with the producer of the a biggeri with the producer of the a bigger level. _ with the producer of the a bigger level. they— with the producer of the a bigger level, they might _ with the producer of the a bigger level, they might go— with the producer of the a bigger level, they might go to - with the producer of the a bigger level, they might go to the - with the producer of the a bigger level, they might go to the head| with the producer of the a bigger. level, they might go to the head of entertainment— level, they might go to the head of entertainment or— level, they might go to the head of entertainment or daytime - level, they might go to the head of entertainment or daytime or- level, they might go to the head of entertainment or daytime or me i level, they might go to the head of. entertainment or daytime or me about what is _ entertainment or daytime or me about what is going — entertainment or daytime or me about what is going on. _ entertainment or daytime or me about what is going on. so— entertainment or daytime or me about what is going on, so i— entertainment or daytime or me about what is going on, so i think— entertainment or daytime or me about what is going on, so i think you - what is going on, so i think you would — what is going on, so i think you would like _ what is going on, so i think you would like to _ what is going on, so i think you would like to think _ what is going on, so i think you would like to think if _ what is going on, so i think you would like to think if they- what is going on, so i think you would like to think if they knew what is going on, so i think you i would like to think if they knew of something — would like to think if they knew of something and _ would like to think if they knew of something and because _ would like to think if they knew of something and because we - would like to think if they knew of something and because we did . would like to think if they knew of. something and because we did speak to them _ something and because we did speak to them a _ something and because we did speak to them a lot — something and because we did speak to them a lot over— something and because we did speak to them a lot over this _ something and because we did speak to them a lot over this particular- to them a lot over this particular issue _ to them a lot over this particular issue over— to them a lot over this particular issue over the _ to them a lot over this particular

issue over the couple _ to them a lot over this particular issue over the couple of- to them a lot over this particular issue over the couple of years, i to them a lot over this particular. issue over the couple of years, and theyi'ust _ issue over the couple of years, and they just constantly _ issue over the couple of years, and theyjust constantly denied - issue over the couple of years, andl theyjust constantly denied anything untoward _ theyjust constantly denied anything untoward was — theyjust constantly denied anything untoward was going _ theyjust constantly denied anything untoward was going on. _ theyjust constantly denied anything untoward was going on. the?- theyjust constantly denied anything untoward was going on.— theyjust constantly denied anything untoward was going on. they made it ve clear untoward was going on. they made it very clear that _ untoward was going on. they made it very clear that they _ untoward was going on. they made it very clear that they did _ untoward was going on. they made it very clear that they did not _ untoward was going on. they made it very clear that they did not know - very clear that they did not know anythinq~ — very clear that they did not know anything. in fact, they had lawyers workinq _ anything. in fact, they had lawyers working on— anything. in fact, they had lawyers working on behalf of philip much to defend _ working on behalf of philip much to defend him because he had denied it to them _ defend him because he had denied it to them so— defend him because he had denied it to them so strenuously. you were in a number— to them so strenuously. you were in a number of— to them so strenuously. you were in a number of meetings with them with lawyers _ a number of meetings with them with lawyers because we were asking them questions _ lawyers because we were asking them questions about it so a relationship with them — questions about it so a relationship with them is, they represent our presenters— with them is, they represent our presenters and therefore, we negotiate contracts with them, but they don't— negotiate contracts with them, but they don't supply us, they don't make _ they don't supply us, they don't make programmes. you they don't supply us, they don't make programmes.— they don't supply us, they don't make rourammes. ., . , . make programmes. you have instructed akc, so make programmes. you have instructed akc. so obviously _ make programmes. you have instructed akc, so obviously you're _ make programmes. you have instructed akc, so obviously you're taking - make programmes. you have instructed akc, so obviously you're taking it - akc, so obviously you're taking it very seriously, to review the facts of this case. those results are going to be published... if you arejustjoining us, we are listening into a hearing, talking to itv executives about the culture of

the organisation following the phillip schofield controversy. they're facing questions by mps, talking about the culture at itv. it is at this point that we say cheerio to people watching us on bbc two. thank you for sticking with us on bbc news. a committee hearing their grilling the chief executives at itv about the culture of the organisation, talking about our dynamics and also the role of runners. we heard more about person x who was involved in this affair with phillip schofield. we were told that he applied for one of 250 internships that itv offers. they said he was a family friend of phillip schofield. itv bosses say they open up these positions to many other people and they bring in diversity schemes as well to try to

diversify the pull of people coming into the organisation and also bosses stressing that their care of their employees is critical and that they are in touch still with phillip schofield and person x. we will come back to that and we are going to go to our top story today. the aftermath of the events in nottingham. you may have heard the bells tolling at the council house nearby. the council offices. a big of condolence has just opened there and people have already been arriving to leave their tributes and there have been some flowers left outside the council offices as well. i read some of those tributes. they are deeply moving. this is a city which is in shock and is reeling after an incident, orthree shock and is reeling after an incident, or three incidents yesterday that left three people

dead. one man critically