tv The Context BBC News June 14, 2023 9:30pm-10:00pm BST
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members of the european parliament have approved a draught voluntary code of conduct to regulate artificial intelligence tools. it's a tough thing to do, as you can imagine. clearly, these things are quite technical so our reporter has been taking a look at the plans for us. the idea is to govern the use of ai based on three levels of risk, starting with unacceptable risk. that is when ai is used for things deemed so unethical, such as biometrics, surveillance, or even using it to keep kind of social scores on people. think netflix is black mirror. next is high risk. so things that might cause harm to people's health, harm to the environment, or affect people's fundamental rights. for example, an ai tool that scans cvs in order to rankjob applicants, which is fine as long as it abides by certain rules. for example, it doesn't
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discriminate against applicants based on their race, age or gender. next, are ai apps and tools that aren't banned and don't pose any high risk. nello cristianini — professor of artificial intelligence at the university of bath and author of "the short cut: why intelligent machines do not think like us". i started by asking him what he makes of these attempts to regulate ai. we must be responsible for the good and also the problems of our technology. it's good that we think ahead at this time. and what kind of things can be regulated, do you think here? well, i think the parliament has a lot of power about what companies can do operating in europe, or also operating from europe outwards. and the list that you made is very good. so first, it establishes there will be some things that are not acceptable. that's a big statement. there will be some things that cannot be done in europe. second, certain things can only be
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done with very serious oversight. and third, even better, the low—risk things should be done very easily. so we don't want to hamper the innovation in the continent. let's pick up on that last point there. the innovation. what are the things that you think are the most interesting because they are low risk and potentially could benefit us most? well, there is plenty to do. for example, we are using machine translation all the time. we are looking into vehicles. we are looking at the medical applications. every single time the fundamental rights of the citizens are not at risk, so to speak, that counts as low risk and it's much easier to implement. if some of the fundamental rights are concerned, this doesn't mean it is not welcome by the regulation, it only means it needs oversight. and there are specific things
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that the operators will have to do. a hugely complicated issue. let's bring our panel into shed some light on it. rebecca, let's start with you. many people welcoming these attempts to regulate ai. it's a thing that lots of us attempts to regulate ai. it's a thing that lots of us actually attempts to regulate ai. it's a thing that lots of us actually can't even properly define yet.- even properly define yet. yeah, ou're even properly define yet. yeah, you're absolutely _ even properly define yet. yeah, you're absolutely right. - even properly define yet. yeah, you're absolutely right. i - even properly define yet. yeah, you're absolutely right. i think i even properly define yet. yeah, | you're absolutely right. i think it has become one of those things that you're either incredibly excited by orbit terrified of. what it is it's an extension of machine learning and algorithms that will start to plug gaps based on past behaviours and start to be able to understand and predict how something is going to work, how your mind is going to work, how your mind is going to work, in the future. so there are obvious reasons why we need guardrails to protect us against ai, because if it starts thinking like a
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human being or starts to behave like a human being than the endgame is potentially, it might compete with us as human beings. so the big risk that the european union identified todayis that the european union identified today is the sort of discrimination and bias factors that might come in. we think the risks to human society are less but what we really need is a global approach, similar almost, there are a lot of political scientist that argue we need something similar to nuclear arms treaties because there are political considerations with all of us. i think the key thing is, we need to strike a balance between the good things that are happening and it's very investable, where there is a lot of money and a lot of good to be gone till you are done and to be made, and to the other side where we actually need frameworks around it. with your economist hat on, there must be a part of you that is pretty
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excited about the efficiencies and opportunities in innovation that could bejust opportunities in innovation that could be just a few weeks, months, years away. could be just a few weeks, months, years away-— years away. absolutely. and i think from the point _ years away. absolutely. and i think from the point of _ years away. absolutely. and i think from the point of view _ years away. absolutely. and i think from the point of view of _ years away. absolutely. and i think from the point of view of the - from the point of view of the economy as well, there is a huge amount that can be done to enable health care, to improve productivity, all of those types of things. and a lot of that will come from very strong innovation and lots of well—funded growth. what we need to do, again, as an economist speaking here, we need to do is to make sure that we regulate externalities. now those of the things that happen as a result of the operation in the market which aren't necessarily in the interest of everyone. so what we have to do is make sure that we've got this balance between what is going to happen and will be good and make us more productive, give us more leisure time, make us have more fulfilling lives, and what won't. and that's a political decision. just, oh shiver went down my stein.
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externalities, you just remind me, was one of my essay challenges. certainly i was back or, not knowing what to write. marianne let's cross you because any attempt to regulate anything on a global scale, irrelevant of the us, isn't leading the way. irrelevant of the us, isn't leading the wa . ., ., . the way. for me, i agree with much of what rebecca _ the way. for me, i agree with much of what rebecca said. _ the way. for me, i agree with much of what rebecca said. the - the way. for me, i agree with much of what rebecca said. the problem | of what rebecca said. the problem here is_ of what rebecca said. the problem here is the — of what rebecca said. the problem here is the person who invented ai and all_ here is the person who invented ai and all the — here is the person who invented ai and all the leading authorities on it uniformly say there is a threat to humanity. i don't know what more warning _ to humanity. i don't know what more warning we _ to humanity. i don't know what more warning we need on this. but the reality— warning we need on this. but the reality is— warning we need on this. but the reality is we are already behind. so yes, we _ reality is we are already behind. so yes, we need global guardrails, policies — yes, we need global guardrails, policies and the united states needs to lead _ policies and the united states needs to lead the way. but we are already too late _ to lead the way. but we are already too late. in the united states, europe — too late. in the united states, europe is— too late. in the united states, europe is doing a betterjob on things— europe is doing a betterjob on things like facebook and twitter and all those _ things like facebook and twitter and all those things, but that was late. the united — all those things, but that was late. the united states is way late on it. the united states is way late on it. the mosk_ the united states is way late on it. the mosk is— the united states is way late on it. the mosk is tearing up the world with twitter right now,
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unfortunately. so when you have something like ai that could really threaten _ something like ai that could really threaten our very existence we need to get— threaten our very existence we need to get on— threaten our very existence we need to get on it — threaten our very existence we need to get on it yesterday. 0k. marianne, to get on it yesterday. 0k. marianne.— to get on it yesterday. 0k. marianne, , , marianne, rebecca, stay there will be back with _ marianne, rebecca, stay there will be back with you _ marianne, rebecca, stay there will be back with you in _ marianne, rebecca, stay there will be back with you in just _ marianne, rebecca, stay there will be back with you in just a - marianne, rebecca, stay there will| be back with you in just a moment. now, if you're watching this you're in the minority, according to a global study into news consumption. the report by oxford university's reuters institute says the number of people taking a strong interest in the news has dropped by around a quarter in the last six years. that sounds like pretty bad news for people like me. let's trying get a little bit more explanation on this. let's trying get a little bit more explanation on this. we can speak now to katerina eva mats, managing director of news and information research at the pew research centre, she joins us from washington. thank so much for coming on the programme. thank so much for coming on the programme-— thank so much for coming on the programme. thank so much for coming on the rouramme. ., ~ i. ., ., programme. thank you for having me. now that is a — programme. thank you for having me. now that is a very _ programme. thank you for having me. now that is a very bright _ programme. thank you for having me. now that is a very bright background l now that is a very bright background you've got there. i now that is a very bright background you've got there-— you've got there. i know, i don't know what's _ you've got there. i know, i don't know what's happening. - you've got there. i know, i don't know what's happening. sorry i you've got there. i know, i don't - know what's happening. sorry about that. i know what's happening. sorry about that. ~ �* , know what's happening. sorry about that. ~' �*, ~ , that. i like it. it's fine. anyway, let's concentrate _ that. i like it. it's fine. anyway, let's concentrate on _ that. i like it. it's fine. anyway, let's concentrate on the - that. i like it. it's fine. anyway, let's concentrate on the reason | that. i like it. it's fine. anyway, - let's concentrate on the reason why you are here to talk to us, to depressed people like me. what's
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going on than cosmetic people taking less interest in the news, what's the story?— less interest in the news, what's the sto ? ., ., , the story? yeah, we have seen, there is definitely — the story? yeah, we have seen, there is definitely we've _ the story? yeah, we have seen, there is definitely we've seen _ the story? yeah, we have seen, there is definitely we've seen a _ the story? yeah, we have seen, there is definitely we've seen a decline - is definitely we've seen a decline in notjust news consumption but also in trust, right? there are a lot of things at stake here, especially when we are talking about getting news from wear, which sources, which brands. we have seen an increase in social media news consumption, where we have decreases and more of our traditional, or what you would say legacy news media. so the story is a bit more complex than just news overall is disappearing or is going away. 50. just news overall is disappearing or is going away-— is going away. so, things like social media, _ is going away. so, things like social media, tiktok, - is going away. so, things like social media, tiktok, people| social media, tiktok, people searching for information in the tiktok app rather than going to a traditional news source. so younger people especially, still exposed to news, but of course there is varying qualities and fact checking on an
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app qualities and fact checking on an app like tiktok.— qualities and fact checking on an app like tiktok. yeah, especially tiktok. app like tiktok. yeah, especially tiktok- we _ app like tiktok. yeah, especially tiktok. we saw _ app like tiktok. yeah, especially tiktok. we saw in _ app like tiktok. yeah, especially tiktok. we saw in the _ app like tiktok. yeah, especially tiktok. we saw in the past - app like tiktok. yeah, especially tiktok. we saw in the past yearl app like tiktok. yeah, especially| tiktok. we saw in the past year a significant rise in news consumption, especially among young adults. at this point, about a third of the users are getting news regularly on tiktok. and there has been a lot of conversation around the accuracy that is on these platforms, this misinformation, of course. so there is a lot of that conversation, kind of the negative aspects of being on these platforms. at the same time, we have seen in our work that there are also places, those digital spaces that are alternative to though they are seeking community, they are seeking to talk to people, they can share beliefs. so as well are they being satisfied in the way that communities are on social media. stay right there. i'm going to bring
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the panel and then come back to you as well, though. marianne, what you make of theirs. this is something i suppose that should surprise us not too much, perhaps the rate and acceleration of people disengaging from perhaps more serious news is something to worry about democratically. 50 something to worry about democratically.— something to worry about democraticall . ,, ., ~' something to worry about democraticall . ,, ., ,, ., democratically. so i think there are several factors. _ democratically. so i think there are severalfactors. i— democratically. so i think there are severalfactors. ithink— democratically. so i think there are several factors. i think there - democratically. so i think there are several factors. i think there are i several factors. i think there are two external factors. one, the pandemic— two external factors. one, the pandemic globally. everyone needed to consume use because in many cases your life _ to consume use because in many cases your life depended on it. sol to consume use because in many cases your life depended on it. so i think there is— your life depended on it. so i think there is exhaustion in the wake of covid _ there is exhaustion in the wake of covid in _ there is exhaustion in the wake of covid in light of the news. in the united _ covid in light of the news. in the united states, the trump factor in the last— united states, the trump factor in the last eight years has contributed to that _ the last eight years has contributed to that as— the last eight years has contributed to that as well. but to continue our conversation from a moment ago about social— conversation from a moment ago about social media, _ conversation from a moment ago about social media, speaking of the need to regulate, tiktok is at the top of that list— to regulate, tiktok is at the top of that list too because the information that is coming across there _ information that is coming across there is— information that is coming across there is not— information that is coming across there is not accurate, it's not factual. — there is not accurate, it's not factual. is _ there is not accurate, it's not factual, is not given to the kind of news _ factual, is not given to the kind of news and — factual, is not given to the kind of news and information that we want everyone _ news and information that we want everyone to consume, especially younger— everyone to consume, especially younger people coming up because it's so—
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younger people coming up because it's so important to their civic engagement to be a civic minded citizen, _ engagement to be a civic minded citizen, to— engagement to be a civic minded citizen, to improving their lives and the — citizen, to improving their lives and the lives of others around them and the lives of others around them and community, and maintaining a democracy— and community, and maintaining a democracy around the world. so we need _ democracy around the world. so we need to— democracy around the world. so we need to use — democracy around the world. so we need to use all of these platforms, but do _ need to use all of these platforms, but do it— need to use all of these platforms, but do it in— need to use all of these platforms, but do it in a way that the kinds of facts _ but do it in a way that the kinds of facts and — but do it in a way that the kinds of facts and figures and basic value that we all took for granted not that we all took for granted not that long ago. if that we all took for granted not that long age-— that we all took for granted not that long ago. if he not that long auo it that long ago. if he not that long a . o it all. that long ago. if he not that long ago it all. rebecca, _ that long ago. if he not that long ago it all. rebecca, i'm - that long ago. if he not that long ago it all. rebecca, i'm going - that long ago. if he not that long ago it all. rebecca, i'm going to| ago it all. rebecca, i'm going to bring un because people are getting their information from different kinds of communities now. less legacy media as katerina was talking about, more social media. but overall, a distrust in perhaps those big institutions democratic institutions, the media, government, politics, that's not great for society moving forward, is it? know and i think what _ society moving forward, is it? know and i think what you _ society moving forward, is it? know and i think what you see _ society moving forward, is it? know and i think what you see with - society moving forward, is it? know and i think what you see with the rise of— and i think what you see with the rise of populism _ and i think what you see with the rise of populism around - and i think what you see with the rise of populism around the - and i think what you see with the | rise of populism around the world you see _ rise of populism around the world you see it— rise of populism around the world you see it with _ rise of populism around the world you see it with sort _ rise of populism around the world you see it with sort of _ rise of populism around the world you see it with sort of sentimentsj you see it with sort of sentiments based _ you see it with sort of sentiments based politics— you see it with sort of sentiments based politics as _ you see it with sort of sentiments based politics as well. _ you see it with sort of sentiments based politics as well. we've - you see it with sort of sentiments based politics as well. we've had| you see it with sort of sentiments . based politics as well. we've had an awful— based politics as well. we've had an awful lot _ based politics as well. we've had an
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awful lot of — based politics as well. we've had an awful lot of depressing _ based politics as well. we've had an awful lot of depressing news - based politics as well. we've had an awful lot of depressing news into i awful lot of depressing news into pandemic— awful lot of depressing news into pandemic and _ awful lot of depressing news into pandemic and it _ awful lot of depressing news into pandemic and it has _ awful lot of depressing news into pandemic and it has been - pandemic and it has been round—the—clock- pandemic and it has been| round—the—clock coverage pandemic and it has been - round—the—clock coverage with pandemic and it has been _ round—the—clock coverage with things like brexit. _ round—the—clock coverage with things like brexit. the — round—the—clock coverage with things like brexit, the pandemic, _ round—the—clock coverage with things like brexit, the pandemic, climate . like brexit, the pandemic, climate destruction, — like brexit, the pandemic, climate destruction, the _ like brexit, the pandemic, climate destruction, the war— like brexit, the pandemic, climate destruction, the war in _ like brexit, the pandemic, climate destruction, the war in ukraine. . destruction, the war in ukraine. people — destruction, the war in ukraine. people are _ destruction, the war in ukraine. people are beginning _ destruction, the war in ukraine. people are beginning to- destruction, the war in ukraine. people are beginning to feel- destruction, the war in ukraine. | people are beginning to feel out destruction, the war in ukraine. i people are beginning to feel out of control _ people are beginning to feel out of control and — people are beginning to feel out of control. and so— people are beginning to feel out of control. and so on— people are beginning to feel out of control. and so on when _ people are beginning to feel out of control. and so on when i first - control. and so on when i first looked — control. and so on when i first looked at _ control. and so on when i first looked at this _ control. and so on when i first looked at this i— control. and so on when i first looked at this i actually- control. and so on when i first. looked at this i actually thought our people _ looked at this i actually thought our people cutting _ looked at this i actually thought our people cutting back- looked at this i actually thought our people cutting back on - our people cutting back on depressing _ our people cutting back on depressing news— our people cutting back on depressing news as - our people cutting back on depressing news as a - our people cutting back on . depressing news as a mental our people cutting back on - depressing news as a mental health choice _ depressing news as a mental health choice or— depressing news as a mental health choice or is— depressing news as a mental health choice or is it — depressing news as a mental health choice or is itjust_ depressing news as a mental health choice or is itjust a _ depressing news as a mental health choice or is itjust a different - depressing news as a mental health choice or is it just a different way i choice or is itjust a different way and consuming— choice or is itjust a different way and consuming news? _ choice or is itjust a different way and consuming news? it- choice or is it just a different way . and consuming news? it absolutely choice or is it just a different way - and consuming news? it absolutely is fundamental— and consuming news? it absolutely is fundamental to— and consuming news? it absolutely is fundamental to a _ and consuming news? it absolutely is fundamental to a democracy- and consuming news? it absolutely is fundamental to a democracy that - and consuming news? it absolutely is fundamental to a democracy that you | fundamental to a democracy that you have to _ fundamental to a democracy that you have to have — fundamental to a democracy that you have to have your _ fundamental to a democracy that you have to have your population - fundamental to a democracy that you i have to have your population engaged with real— have to have your population engaged with real political— have to have your population engaged with real political issues. _ have to have your population engaged with real political issues. so - have to have your population engaged with real political issues. so i - with real political issues. sol think— with real political issues. sol think it — with real political issues. sol think it is _ with real political issues. sol think it is incumbent - with real political issues. sol think it is incumbent on - with real political issues. sol think it is incumbent on all. with real political issues. sol think it is incumbent on all of| with real political issues. so i. think it is incumbent on all of us, actually, — think it is incumbent on all of us, actually, who are _ think it is incumbent on all of us, actually, who are involved - think it is incumbent on all of us, actually, who are involved with l think it is incumbent on all of us, i actually, who are involved with the media _ actually, who are involved with the media to _ actually, who are involved with the media to think— actually, who are involved with the media to think about _ actually, who are involved with the media to think about the _ actually, who are involved with the media to think about the role - actually, who are involved with the media to think about the role and i media to think about the role and quality— media to think about the role and quality of— media to think about the role and quality ofjournalism _ media to think about the role and quality ofjournalism and - media to think about the role and quality ofjournalism and the - media to think about the role and quality ofjournalism and the role | quality ofjournalism and the role of fact-based _ quality ofjournalism and the role of fact—based opinion _ quality ofjournalism and the role of fact—based opinion rather- quality ofjournalism and the role of fact—based opinion rather thanj of fact—based opinion rather than opinion— of fact—based opinion rather than opinion based _ of fact—based opinion rather than opinion based facts, _ of fact—based opinion rather than opinion based facts, and - of fact—based opinion rather than opinion based facts, and that - of fact—based opinion rather than opinion based facts, and that i i opinion based facts, and that i think— opinion based facts, and that i think is— opinion based facts, and that i think is a — opinion based facts, and that i think is a very— opinion based facts, and that i think is a very distinct, - opinion based facts, and that i i think is a very distinct, important distinction — think is a very distinct, important distinction to— think is a very distinct, important distinction to make. _ think is a very distinct, important distinction to make.— think is a very distinct, important distinction to make. katerina, let's build on what _ distinction to make. katerina, let's build on what rebecca _ distinction to make. katerina, let's build on what rebecca saying. - distinction to make. katerina, let's build on what rebecca saying. so l distinction to make. katerina, let's build on what rebecca saying. so i | build on what rebecca saying. so i want to ask this issue of partisanship and peoples political opinions and that as an influence on the news consumption.— opinions and that as an influence on the news consumption. yeah, that's
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one of the biggest _ the news consumption. yeah, that's one of the biggest drivers _ the news consumption. yeah, that's one of the biggest drivers we - the news consumption. yeah, that's one of the biggest drivers we are . one of the biggest drivers we are seeing in the past ten years, where partisanship and political ideology are very much related to not only where we turn to for opinions but who we trust, how you are assessing information. so in the us specifically we have seen that basically, people are on the opposite sides of the aisle there, having many different media guidance and having choices of who they trust very differently. so partisanship is a very big driverfor all of very differently. so partisanship is a very big driver for all of the different media attitudes that we talk about here.— different media attitudes that we talk about here. katerina, i want to ask ou talk about here. katerina, i want to ask you about _ talk about here. katerina, i want to ask you about the _ talk about here. katerina, i want to ask you about the desperately - ask you about the desperately crucial role the newsreaders play in all the research that you have done into that but i don't want to know the answer so i'm not going to. katerina, thank you so much for your time. great to have you on. marianne, rebecca, we will be talking to again and just a minute. thank you. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. bringing different stories
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now it's time for the panel... so, this is the bit of the show where our panel gets to talk about whatever they want to talk about, within reason, i stress. whatever they want to talk about, within reason, istress. rebecca, let's start with you. the floor is yours. let's start with you. the floor is ours. . ~' let's start with you. the floor is ours. ., ~ , ., ~ yours. 0k, thank you. i think the story that _ yours. 0k, thank you. i think the story that impacted _ yours. 0k, thank you. i think the story that impacted me - yours. 0k, thank you. i think the story that impacted me today - yours. 0k, thank you. i think the | story that impacted me today was about putting the flying taxi to work. so it was turning science—fiction into science fact. and this is an air taxi startup that is based in the united states. it is a four seater flying vita goal. it's doing regular shuttles, or is going to be doing regular shuttles between newark airport and downtown new york. it takes ten minutes and costs $100 a passenger. and it is kind of being put forward as the future of getting around big cities. ijust wondered what the conversation with
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then air driver would be like on a hotjune afternoon. but i was actually intrigued to find out that this is an idea that henry ford first entertained in 1926, and that actually, it is something that there is a real start of community beginning to develop, and there is widespread in the us, china, and brazil, including organisations like airbus. so we might be seeing these flying taxis flying around our cities quite soon, once we can sort out the infrastructure, aviation regulation, and aircraft.- out the infrastructure, aviation regulation, and aircraft. once those details are sorted. _ regulation, and aircraft. once those details are sorted. we _ regulation, and aircraft. once those details are sorted. we are - regulation, and aircraft. once those details are sorted. we are seeing i details are sorted. we are seeing pictures of them now as you are talking about them. one, they look cool talking about them. one, they look cool. i don't think anyone's going to deny that. but two, hundred dollars for that, that doesn't seem very much. that seems relatively reasonable. marianne, before going to your topic, do you like the look of those air taxi to's i’gre to your topic, do you like the look of those air taxi to's_ of those air taxi to's i've been waitin: of those air taxi to's i've been waiting for — of those air taxi to's i've been waiting for that _ of those air taxi to's i've been waiting for that since - of those air taxi to's i've been waiting for that since i - of those air taxi to's i've been waiting for that since i was i of those air taxi to's i've been waiting for that since i was a l of those air taxi to's i've been i waiting for that since i was a kid, while _ waiting for that since i was a kid, while watching the jackson's cartoon~ _ while watching the jackson's cartoon. why is it taking so long? i can't _ cartoon. why is it taking so long? i
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can't wait — cartoon. why is it taking so long? i can't wait. ., �* ., ., ~' can't wait. you've got to think, treat can't wait. you've got to think, great for _ can't wait. you've got to think, great for speed, _ can't wait. you've got to think, great for speed, great - can't wait. you've got to think, great for speed, great for i great for speed, great for convenience, great for looking cool. but actually, do you want loads and loads of those things flying around in the air all of the same time, everyone going in different directions? i don't know. i'm not going to pretend i know enough about those details. anyway, before i start speculative wildly about that, marianne, let's get onto your topic. what you want to talk about today's mine isn't as serious as rebecca's, but last— mine isn't as serious as rebecca's, but last night, after the historic day that— but last night, after the historic day that donald trump was arraigned, he had _ day that donald trump was arraigned, he had a _ day that donald trump was arraigned, he had a birthday party and a fundraiser as well. he he had a birthday party and a fundraiseras well. he is he had a birthday party and a fundraiser as well. he is known to play dj _ fundraiser as well. he is known to play dj at— fundraiser as well. he is known to play dj at all of these different clubs _ play dj at all of these different clubs that he is not and normally he plays _ clubs that he is not and normally he plays things like village people and the ymca or elton john's tiny dancer~ — the ymca or elton john's tiny dancer. but last night he played three _ dancer. but last night he played three different songs that he normally doesn't play that might provide — normally doesn't play that might provide some insight into his mindset— provide some insight into his mindset after the date he had. the first one. _ mindset after the date he had. the first one, elvis presley hound dog, with the _ first one, elvis presley hound dog, with the lyric, you ain't nothing
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but a _ with the lyric, you ain't nothing but a hound dog, crying all the time — but a hound dog, crying all the time and _ but a hound dog, crying all the time. and then he had to use bruce springsteen song. one, born to run, everybody— springsteen song. one, born to run, everybody is out on the run slide but there's— everybody is out on the run slide but there's nowhere left to hide. and then — but there's nowhere left to hide. and then of course born in the usa, with the lyric— and then of course born in the usa, with the lyric down the shadow of the penitentiary. in ten years to bring _ the penitentiary. in ten years to bring down the road, nowhere to ride, _ bring down the road, nowhere to ride, anger, nowhere to go. and got nowhere to — ride, anger, nowhere to go. and got nowhere to go- _ ride, anger, nowhere to go. and got nowhere to go. you _ ride, anger, nowhere to go. and got nowhere to go. you are _ ride, anger, nowhere to go. and got nowhere to go. you are out - nowhere to go. you are out the lyrics there. i do have to point out, you decline the opportunity to sin. 1 out, you decline the opportunity to sin. ., �* ., ., ., ., , sin. i wouldn't do that to anybody, ever. i sin. i wouldn't do that to anybody, ever- i am — sin. i wouldn't do that to anybody, ever- i am very — sin. i wouldn't do that to anybody, ever. i am very disappointed. i ever. i am very disappointed. rebecca are _ ever. i am very disappointed. rebecca are you _ ever. i am very disappointed. rebecca are you a _ ever. i am very disappointed. rebecca are you a bruce i ever. i am very disappointed. rebecca are you a bruce fan? ever. i am very disappointed. i rebecca are you a bruce fan? nb, what do you make of donald trump djing choices, they are.— djing choices, they are. absolutely a bruce fan — djing choices, they are. absolutely a bruce fan but _ djing choices, they are. absolutely a bruce fan but let's _ djing choices, they are. absolutely a bruce fan but let's not _ djing choices, they are. absolutely a bruce fan but let's not think- a bruce fan but let's not think about what this might mean to the conservative party in the uk. will they be playing paul mccartney spanned on the run?—
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they be playing paul mccartney spanned on the run? good, good. all riaht, but spanned on the run? good, good. all right. but we — spanned on the run? good, good. all right, but we can't _ spanned on the run? good, good. all right, but we can't let _ spanned on the run? good, good. all right, but we can't let this _ right, but we can't let this opportunity pass without hearing a bit of bruce springsteen. let's take a listen. �* ., a bit of bruce springsteen. let's take a listen. �* ., ,,~ ., , a listen. born in the usa, i was born in the _ a listen. born in the usa, i was born in the usa, _ a listen. born in the usa, i was born in the usa, i— a listen. born in the usa, i was born in the usa, i was - a listen. born in the usa, i was born in the usa, i was born i a listen. born in the usa, i was born in the usa, i was born in i a listen. born in the usa, i was i born in the usa, i was born in the usa. born in the usa. down a little hometown jam. usa. born in the usa. down a little hometown jam-— usa. born in the usa. down a little hometown jam. hometown “am. absolutely brilliant. i'm hometown jam. absolutely brilliant. l'm absolutely— hometown jam. absolutely brilliant. i'm absolutely delighted. _ hometown jam. absolutely brilliant. i'm absolutely delighted. but - hometown jam. absolutely brilliant. i'm absolutely delighted. but it i hometown jam. absolutely brilliant. i'm absolutely delighted. but it is i i'm absolutely delighted. but it is definitely a new story, you definitely a new story, you definitely brought it up. i wish we could be playing more music in general but definitely more bruce springsteen on the show. anyway, we are just about out of time. i want to thank our panelists, marianne and rebecca. you have been great panelists. thank you both so much. and that's it from us. this is the
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context on bbc news. goodbye. hello from the bbc sport centre. jude bellingham will be real madrid's latest star player, with the price tag to match. the midfielder is signing from borussia dortmund in a deal that makes him the spanish club's second most expensive purchase in history. joe lynskey has more. he's 19 years old and his career just keeps rising. jude bellingham this last step feels a long way from his first. it was his first day for birmingham city but one day and the second year, convinced dormant to
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sign him. now he goes up on another level. hejoined real madrid for 100 million euros. in a statement, bellingham thank his old team. he said it has been an honour to where the dorm and shirt and even though i look forward to my next destination, i won't forget the journey there. he signed for realfor £88 million, but add—ons could take that past 100 million. that would make bellingham england's most expensive player, surpassing the fee paid forjack relist. it has caused real mordecai sign him then or cristiano ronaldo, and some of the cash spills back to his start. birmingham will get at least 5% of the fee. if his start. birmingham will get at least 596 of the fee.— his start. birmingham will get at least 596 of the fee. if you get the chance to play — least 596 of the fee. if you get the chance to play at _ least 596 of the fee. if you get the chance to play at such _ least 596 of the fee. if you get the chance to play at such a _ least 596 of the fee. if you get the chance to play at such a young i chance to play at such a young age and that the opportunity to go to germany, — and that the opportunity to go to germany, and he has emerged that every— germany, and he has emerged that every single test that he has been thrown _ every single test that he has been thrown at — every single test that he has been thrown at him. i don't see any different— thrown at him. i don't see any different from that. he's got such a
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good _ different from that. he's got such a good head — different from that. he's got such a good head on his shoulders. ijust hope _ good head on his shoulders. ijust hope he does well out there. what a moment for — hope he does well out there. what a moment for the _ hope he does well out there. what a moment for the 19-year-old! - hope he does well out there. what a moment for the 19-year-old! he's i hope he does well out there. what a moment for the 19-year-old! he's a | moment for the 19-year-old! he's a -la er moment for the 19-year-old! he's a player who — moment for the 19-year-old! he's a player who takes — moment for the 19-year-old! he's a player who takes charge _ moment for the 19-year-old! he's a player who takes charge at - moment for the 19-year-old! he's a player who takes charge at both i moment for the 19-year-old! he's a l player who takes charge at both ends of the pitch. england saw that last december. �* ., ., . , december. bellingham at the cross! now, bellingham _ december. bellingham at the cross! now, bellingham said _ december. bellingham at the cross! now, bellingham said no _ december. bellingham at the cross! now, bellingham said no to - december. bellingham at the cross! now, bellingham said no to the i now, bellingham said no to the premier league, and instead he steps in to perhaps the most demanding club. real havejust in to perhaps the most demanding club. real have just come second in the league or and in europe worth aroused by city. there next year has to change and they have put trust in the teenager. jude bellingham turns 20 at the end of this month. in three years, he's gone from the blues to the burn about. the first of the nations league semi finals is taking place between the netherlands and croatia — the winner tonight takes on spain or italy in the final on sunday. in front of their home crowd — the netherlands have taken the lead — donyell malen with the goal.
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the netherlands took the lead in the first half through donyell malen — but andrej kramaric from the penalty spot and then a mario pasalic goal put croatia to within 17 minutes of a place in the final...only for the netherlands to equalise in the 96th minute. 32 at the moment your creation. we will keep you up—to—date on that later on. the women's world cup will be broadcast on bbc and itv, after they have agreed a deal with fifa to broadcast the competition. the announcement comes just five weeks before the tournament begins — as fifa president gianni infantino had threatened a european tv blackout if rights offers were not improved. but the deal now allows viewers to watch matches when the tournament begins in australia and new zealand, with european champions england kicking off their campaign on the 22july against haiti.
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there are two days still to go... but england have already named their team for the first test of the ashes series against australia. the key decision was which of the fast bowlers to choose, and they've decided to pick stuart broad over mark wood. that means the pace attack will be broad, james anderson and ollie robinson. moeen ali has been tempted out of test retirement to be the spinner — he'll bat at number eight. there's a first ashes call up for harry brook — who has scored more than 800 runs in seven tests since his debut last year. golf's world number one scottie scheffler says he �*still doesn't really have a clue' about what's going on with the sport's shock merger. the american has revealed he was at the gym when he heard the news that saudi arabia's public investment fund and the pga and dp world tours had joined forces after a more than year long dispute. he's preparing for the us open that starts tomorrow in los angeles.
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yeah, so, one of my big things is controlling what i can control. so when i talk about golf swings it's mostly if i had a really good 700 and it doesn't turn out the way i want to, i do what i could. if i do about that doesn't go in, i do record. and this is one of those scenarios that i've been focusing on, preparing for this week, not something that's out of my control. so i don't really know what's going to happen in the future, but i'm interested to see because it does affect me. and so we'll see what happens, but like i said, i don't have a tonne of control over that, and things are really starting to kind of, things are barely starting to take form without whole deal, and i reallyjust don't know.— i really 'ust don't know. that's - re i reallyjust don't know. that's pretty much — i reallyjust don't know. that's pretty much how _ i reallyjust don't know. that's pretty much how it _ i reallyjust don't know. that's pretty much how it goes i i reallyjust don't know. that's pretty much how it goes in i i reallyjust don't know. that'sj pretty much how it goes in the i reallyjust don't know. that's i pretty much how it goes in the world of golf at the moment. the us open start in los angeles tomorrow. still three to between the netherlands and croatia and that nations league semifinal. you can fall down the bbc sport website.
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hello there. for the vast majority of places, today was just a straightforward, fine, dry, sunny and very warm summer's day. look at this beautiful picture from a weather watcher in guernsey. however, also a beautiful picture, but a picture of something different from northern scotland. this was the exception. a big storm cloud there indicative of what was going on in northern scotland. you can see it here on our earlier satellite and radar sequence, some heavy showers and thunderstorms thatjust moved across the far north of scotland while the vast majority of other places stayed dry with lots of sunshine. through tonight, largely clear skies overhead, those showers in northern scotland fade some areas of low cloud mist and fog here and there. and if anything, a little bit cooler and fresher than some of the nights we've had so far this week, nine to 1a degrees, the overnight lows for most, but into tomorrow, most places getting off to a fine and sunny start. much of the low cloud lifting, some may linger close to western coast, but again, some very isolated thunderstorms. there could just be one or two in the far north of scotland again. conversely, further south
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in glasgow, it should stay dry with highs of 26 or 27. western counties of northern ireland seeing some showers and thunderstorms, one or two popping up over the hills and mountains of wales and perhaps the moors of the west country. can't completely rule out a shower elsewhere, but it should be largely dry. there will be a few places, though, where temperatures are just a degree or two down on where they have been of late. into friday, this area of low pressure in the atlantic swirls ever closer, and this frontal system pushing northwards would introduce the chance for some thunderstorms in the far south—west of england, the far south—west of wales, but more especially northern ireland. one or two popping up elsewhere. most places will be dry and with a subtle change in the wind direction, the winds not quite coming in off the chilly waters of the north sea. it is going to feeljust a little bit warmerfor some of these eastern coasts, up to around 26 or 25 degrees. into the weekend, our area of low pressure swirls towards us,
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tonight at ten, thousands of people attend a vigil in nottingham to remember those killed in yesterday's attacks. the families of the two students who lost their lives unite in grief and urge people to look after each other. i've lost my baby boy, and i can't even comprehend how i'm going to deal with it. look after your friends and look after people around you. it's so important. the two students were 19 years old. a third victim has now been identified. he was a 65—year—old school caretaker. during the day these images emerged
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