has conducted itself? committee has conducted itself? there is a lot of detail in the report. at this point i think it is probably a good idea to look at the conclusion is the committee has come to with regard to that central claim of borisjohnson deliberately misleading the house of commons. and here on page 57, about half way through this lengthy report, they say the categories are misleading, they conclude that borisjohnson misled the house. on the 1st of september and at 2021 all guidance was followed in number 10. when he said on the 8th of december that rules and guidance were followed at all times. on the 12th ofjanuary, 2022, when he said events at number 10 are within the rules and guidance. and that the 25th of may, 2032, when he said the rules and guidance had been followed at all times when he was present to which at farewell. they go on to say he misled the house when he failed to tell mps about his own knowledge of

the gatherings, where the rules and guidance had been broken. that he misled the house when he said on the 8th of december, 2021, that he relied on repeated assurances that the rules had not been broken. there is evidence that mrjohnson was assured, they say, by two individuals who had worked at number 10 at the time, and they did not think that the gatherings on the 18th of december had broken covid rules. but, however, the committee say they conclude boris johnson rules. but, however, the committee say they conclude borisjohnson had personal knowledge about the gatherings, which he should have disclosed, but he concedes there was no insurance about any gatherings compliance with the guidance in place at the time. and the purported assurances were only about a certain gatherings, not more generally about number 10's compliance with the rules and guidance. yet they say borisjohnson rules and guidance. yet they say boris johnson gave rules and guidance. yet they say borisjohnson gave the impression that his assurances had been overarching and comprehensive in respect of number 10's compliance with covid measures. so what of the committee are saying is that when

borisjohnson committee are saying is that when boris johnson stood committee are saying is that when borisjohnson stood up at the house of commons and told mps he had been assured that guidance was followed at all times and he was questioned about this when he gave evidence to the committee back in march, he talked about the senior officials, people who had been working very hard, who assured him that rules had been followed at all times. the committee takes issue with that claim here. and point by point says that in some cases there is no evidence for boris johnson that in some cases there is no evidence for borisjohnson having been given such assurances, and where he was, it was only in relation to specific gatherings, not conduct in number 10's throughout the pandemic when regulations and rules were in place to allow social distancing and other measures. that, i think, is crucial in understanding, one point at least, that the committee has reached the conclusion that he did deliberately mislead mps. all right, jonathan blake there for

us. thank you very much for going through that report with us. 30,000 words is a lot to get through. but you have done very well with that. now i spoke to dominic —— dominic reeves, former attorney general, and somebody who is also set on the privileges committee just like the one that has released this report. —— dominic grieve. obviously at this stage i has only had the chance to look at the summary because it is rather a lengthy report, as you will appreciate. but it is quite clear that the committee seems to have done a perfectly sensible, credible piece of work, in exactly the way i would have expected, because what happens with this committee is that people leave their party political allegiances to one side when they go and sit on it. and the evidence, frankly, against mrjohnson is overwhelming. it is overwhelming because of the evidence the parties took place. what i think particularly is telling is that when he came to the house and made his

various statements about giving assurances that there had been no parties, he had been specifically told by his officials that he couldn't give such assurances because it could not be said the world had been properly followed, but you just cheerfully decided to go ahead and do it. so, whatever the circumstances, which he says brought these gatherings about, where he says he thought they were part of work events, when he actually came to the house of commons and explained what had been going on, he knew that there was a problem and he deliberately decided to conceal it. and it has to be understood that this whole business is not about what he did in downing street. it is whether he lied to the house of commons. whether he lied to the house of commem— whether he lied to the house of commons. ~ . �* , , commons. well, that's interesting that ou commons. well, that's interesting that you make _ commons. well, that's interesting that you make that _ commons. well, that's interesting that you make that point, - commons. well, that's interesting that you make that point, becausej that you make that point, because for a lot of borisjohnson�*s supporters, you know, this is a big fuss about him having a bit of cake. and perhaps that bit about lying to parliament and not about the parties

necessarily, maybe that is a bit lost, because he also is creating his own narrative, isn't he? £371 his own narrative, isn't he? of course he is, because that is what mrjohnson specialises in doing. mi mrjohnson specialises in doing. all right, we willjust leave that for a moment. and take you to the house of commons and a discussion going on there. it commons and a discussion going on there. , , ~ , ., there. it is shocking but not surprising- _ there. it is shocking but not surprising- i— there. it is shocking but not surprising. i was _ there. it is shocking but not surprising. i was sad - there. it is shocking but not surprising. i was sad leader there. it is shocking but not i surprising. i was sad leader of there. it is shocking but not - surprising. i was sad leader of the house two years ago when he tried to rip up the role is to save his friend patterson will stop hundreds of tory mps voted to —— with him, including the current leader of the house. as we don't know what the motion on monday will say, i ask her now, can she assure us that there will be no such similar attempt? will she confirm the government will give the house the opportunity to approve and endorse the report in full? this all brings into question the validity ofjohnson�*s resignation honours list and the prime minister's support for it,

with a lawbreaker and a liar rewarding his cronies, willie leader: the prime minister to show some leadership for once and cancelled these dishonourable honours? —— will the leader. on the prime minister's incredibly poor judgment, easy so out of touch that he thought it right that taxpayers' hard earn money for legal advice for johnson's lies to the public? a shameful waste of money during a tory cost of living crisis, especially. this was a mess of his making. does the leader think this was a good use of public money? will the prime minister now demand that borisjohnson pays back every penny? now we will return to this on monday in full when i will face the right honourable lady again. on to a related matter, madam deputy speaker, a week really is a long time in politics, if you are the member or former time in politics, if you are the member orformer member time in politics, if you are the member or former member for mid bedfordshire. she has had a busy week. apparently barred from being a

baroness, she then declared her departure, threw a tantrum on tv, seemingly resolved her resignation announced a one—woman investigation into why she didn't get a peerage. this could now drag on for months, like the guest to outstay their welcome in conversation has dried up. she says she is off home. she is taking forever to put on her coat. and you know what? she will stay for that cup of tea after all. is this really what people can expect from tory mps? could the leader please clarify, is a colleague resigning or not? does she agree the good people of mid bedfordshire actually deserve proper representation from their mp, as do also the people of uxbridge and south ruislip, selby and ainsley, and people up and that the country cannot stomach another moment more of the story soap opera? with a prime minister too busy failing to get a grip on the sleaze and scandal engulfing his own party to focus on the cost of living, and crime, on nhs waiting lists, with so much to do and he can't even fill a

full parliamentary day, what is the point of him? he is out of touch, out of ideas and unable to govern. he is breaking promises, letting people down and it is time he shouts of actual leadership and let the people have their say and call a general election. thank you, madam deputy speaker. thank you, madam deputy speaker. first of— thank you, madam deputy speaker. first of all. — thank you, madam deputy speaker. first of all, can i associate myself with the _ first of all, can i associate myself with the remarks and tributes paid in this_ with the remarks and tributes paid in this house to the victims of the nottingham attack and their brave families_ nottingham attack and their brave families and friends, and also, all those _ families and friends, and also, all those who— families and friends, and also, all those who perished at the grenfell fire six _ those who perished at the grenfell fire six years ago? this week we also _ fire six years ago? this week we also commemorate the liberation of the falkland islands. that is of particular— the falkland islands. that is of particular importance to many of the families _ particular importance to many of the families it_ particular importance to many of the families. it is my privilege to represent them. the honourable lady raises _ represent them. the honourable lady raises the _ represent them. the honourable lady raises the issue of the hour. and i think— raises the issue of the hour. and i think it _ raises the issue of the hour. and i think it is — raises the issue of the hour. and i think it is worth reminding this house — think it is worth reminding this house that the privileges committee is there _ house that the privileges committee is there to _ house that the privileges committee is there to defend this house, our

rights _ is there to defend this house, our rights and — is there to defend this house, our rights and our bridges. the committee and the investigation that they carried out was set up unanimously by this house. we asked them to— unanimously by this house. we asked them to do— unanimously by this house. we asked them to do this work. the membership of the _ them to do this work. the membership of the committee was established again— of the committee was established again unanimously by this house, and as marry— again unanimously by this house, and as many members have pointed out, it had a _ as many members have pointed out, it had a conservative majority on it. i want _ had a conservative majority on it. i want to _ had a conservative majority on it. i want to put — had a conservative majority on it. i want to put on record my thanks to the committee. i hear from a sedentary— the committee. i hear from a sedentary position, yes, members of that committee do their duty. my advice _ that committee do their duty. my advice to— that committee do their duty. my advice to all the right honourable, and honourable members, is having had the _ and honourable members, is having had the committee carry out the work we asked _ had the committee carry out the work we asked them to do, is to read the report _ we asked them to do, is to read the report it _ we asked them to do, is to read the report it is— we asked them to do, is to read the report. it is to make their own judgments about it. and take the task that — judgments about it. and take the task that is our pledge to do seriously— task that is our pledge to do seriously and soberly. and then ——

and members should use their own judgment _ and members should use their own judgment on that. i can confirm that the motion — judgment on that. i can confirm that the motion before us will be without trouble, _ the motion before us will be without trouble, it— the motion before us will be without trouble, it will be amendable, and it is house — trouble, it will be amendable, and it is house business. and so i am expecting — it is house business. and so i am expecting a — it is house business. and so i am expecting a free vote. and i know also, _ expecting a free vote. and i know also, because the honourable lady reminds— also, because the honourable lady reminds us— also, because the honourable lady reminds us of previous cases, these are difficult— reminds us of previous cases, these are difficult matters for the house. we have _ are difficult matters for the house. we have to — are difficult matters for the house. we have to look at the evidence, we have to _ we have to look at the evidence, we have to look — we have to look at the evidence, we have to look at the report, but we are talking — have to look at the report, but we are talking about people who are friends _ are talking about people who are friends and colleagues. it will be a painful— friends and colleagues. it will be a painful process and a sad process for all— painful process and a sad process for all of— painful process and a sad process for all of us, the task that we face on monday — for all of us, the task that we face on monday. but all of us must do what _ on monday. but all of us must do what we — on monday. but all of us must do what we think is right. and others must _ what we think is right. and others must leave — what we think is right. and others must leave us alone to do so. i concur— must leave us alone to do so. i concur with _ must leave us alone to do so. i concur with the honourable lady. the honourable _ concur with the honourable lady. the honourable lady, understandably, is focused _ honourable lady, understandably, is focused on — honourable lady, understandably, is focused on wrongs and gongs, if i may say—

focused on wrongs and gongs, if i may say so, — focused on wrongs and gongs, if i may say so, but she will know that this government has not been distracted from its duties. she mentions _ distracted from its duties. she mentions the cost of living. i know how stressful and frightening and exhausting living hand to mouth can be. exhausting living hand to mouth can be and _ exhausting living hand to mouth can be and we — exhausting living hand to mouth can be. and we are determined to support families— be. and we are determined to support families and _ be. and we are determined to support families and businesses during these tough _ families and businesses during these tough and _ families and businesses during these tough and volatile times. global economic— tough and volatile times. global economic conditions have been made worse _ economic conditions have been made worse by— economic conditions have been made worse by the actions of those who would _ worse by the actions of those who would do — worse by the actions of those who would do us harm. the latest atrocity— would do us harm. the latest atrocity in _ would do us harm. the latest atrocity in ukraine will have knock-on _ atrocity in ukraine will have knock—on effects globally. and as a country _ knock—on effects globally. and as a country we — knock—on effects globally. and as a country we must, and we will, this storm _ country we must, and we will, this storm that — country we must, and we will, this storm. that is why we are supporting households _ storm. that is why we are supporting households on average to the tune of £3300 _ households on average to the tune of £3300 it— households on average to the tune of £3300 it is— households on average to the tune of £3300. it is why we have frozen fuel duty for— £3300. it is why we have frozen fuel duty for the — £3300. it is why we have frozen fuel duty for the 13th consecutive year. while _ duty for the 13th consecutive year. while we — duty for the 13th consecutive year. while we have the triple lock. why we have _ while we have the triple lock. why we have had the largest ever increase _ we have had the largest ever increase to the national living wage — increase to the national living wage. while we dumped the personal allowance _ wage. while we dumped the personal allowance. while we are capping bus fares _ allowance. while we are capping bus fares and _ allowance. while we are capping bus fares. and while we are supporting 2 million _ fares. and while we are supporting 2 million families and expanding childcare offer. the public need a

plan from — childcare offer. the public need a plan from the government to grow the economy, _ plan from the government to grow the economy, to _ plan from the government to grow the economy, to halve inflation and reduce — economy, to halve inflation and reduce debt. that is their priorities. it is our prime minister's priority too. the honourable lady will know we are a resilient _ honourable lady will know we are a resilient nation. we have had the fastest _ resilient nation. we have had the fastest growing cumulative growth in the g7 _ fastest growing cumulative growth in the 67 for— fastest growing cumulative growth in the g7 for the past two years. the imf the g7 for the past two years. the w have — the g7 for the past two years. the imf have revised their forecasts up. and we _ imf have revised their forecasts up. and we avoided a technical recession, which many people said was inescapable. we have got 4 million — was inescapable. we have got 4 million people into work. half of which _ million people into work. half of which are — million people into work. half of which are women. and women in high skilled _ which are women. and women in high skilled jobs _ which are women. and women in high skilled jobs is up 38.5% since her party— skilled jobs is up 38.5% since her party were — skilled jobs is up 38.5% since her party were in power. in tough times this country— party were in power. in tough times this country does not need doom mongers— this country does not need doom mongers and hand ringers. it needs fighters, _ mongers and hand ringers. it needs fighters, it— mongers and hand ringers. it needs fighters, it needs grafters and it needs— fighters, it needs grafters and it needs help ringers. it needs a government that will back families and workers and wealth creators and all who _ and workers and wealth creators and all who invest in every sense in our nation _ all who invest in every sense in our nation that — all who invest in every sense in our nation. that is what we are focused on. nation. that is what we are focused on most _ nation. that is what we are focused on. most notably during tech week

and the _ on. most notably during tech week and the sector of ai. in contrast, we know— and the sector of ai. in contrast, we know idlib or's ai policies. anti investment, — we know idlib or's ai policies. anti investment, anti—infrastructure, anti—innovation and anti—individuals. —— labour's policies _ anti—individuals. —— labour's policies. their worst top ten it failures— policies. their worst top ten it failures cost half the school hudget _ failures cost half the school budget. they had free no childcare for under— budget. they had free no childcare for under threes. they gifted us the fuel duty— for under threes. they gifted us the fuel duty escalator and thought it acceptable that someone in his second — acceptable that someone in his second job got to keep only 2p for every— second job got to keep only 2p for every additional pound they earn. no labour— every additional pound they earn. no labour government has ever left office _ labour government has ever left office with more people in work than when _ office with more people in work than when it— office with more people in work than when it came to power. ai is not a danger— when it came to power. ai is not a danger to— when it came to power. ai is not a danger tojobs and wages. a labour government certainly is. danger to jobs and wages. a labour government certainly is.— danger to jobs and wages. a labour government certainly is. thank you, madam david _ government certainly is. thank you, madam david is _ government certainly is. thank you, madam david is bigger. _ government certainly is. thank you, madam david is bigger. i— government certainly is. thank you, madam david is bigger. i was - government certainly is. thank you, i madam david is bigger. i was pleased earlier this week to be re—elected as co—chairman of the all—party group for the holocaust memorial day and educational centre. i understand

that the standing orders committee considered the progress of the bill that will bring that much—needed and expected education centre and memorial into fruition. and i wonder if my right honourable friend can give a progress report on that bill and also on the long promised boycotts disinvestment and sanctions bill the government has promised to bring forward? can bill the government has promised to bring forward?— bring forward? can i start by congratulating _ bring forward? can i start by congratulating my _ bring forward? can i start by. congratulating my honourable bring forward? can i start by - congratulating my honourable friend on his— congratulating my honourable friend on his re—election to that important role? _ role? so, we will rote? — so, we will step away from that discussion now in the house of commons. just letting you know that we have heard from the leader of the house of commons, penny mordaunt. she has confirmed that mps will debate the privileges committee report into borisjohnson's conduct. that will happen on monday. so,

relatively quickly we will be hearing mps debate this verdict. and of course it is up to them to approve this report that we have been reporting on today. boris johnson has been found by the privileges committee to have misled parliament deliberately. let's get some more reaction to this now. i am joined by stephen flynn, westminster leaderfor the snp. thank joined by stephen flynn, westminster leader for the snp. thank you very much for talking to us. what is your reaction? i much for talking to us. what is your reaction? ~ , much for talking to us. what is your reaction? ,, , ,., reaction? i think this report confirms — reaction? i think this report confirms what _ reaction? i think this report confirms what most - reaction? i think this report confirms what most of - reaction? i think this report confirms what most of us . reaction? i think this report - confirms what most of us already knew, that borisjohnson is a liar and he has repeatedly lied, notjust to the public, but also to parliament too. this is an extremely serious matter. there are a few things that need to happen. the legal costs which the public has paid for, they need to be recouped from mrjohnson. the allowance to which he is entitled as a former prime minister, that needs to be removed. and his honours list is a disgraced former prime minister needs to be put in the bin. this is

a stark reminder to people of scotland that if they don't want to have people like borisjohnson governing them, tory governments that we don't vote for, the best solution is to vote for scottish independence.— solution is to vote for scottish independence. solution is to vote for scottish indeendence. , , ., independence. many people did vote for boris johnson _ independence. many people did vote for boris johnson and _ independence. many people did vote for boris johnson and many - independence. many people did vote for boris johnson and many people i for borisjohnson and many people still support him. many people echoing his claim that this is a witch hunt, that he has been hounded out of parliament. what you make of that? �* , ., , out of parliament. what you make of that? �*, ., ,~ ., out of parliament. what you make of that? ,�* that? it's all very champion, isn't it? if a mecorrectly _ that? it's all very champion, isn't it? if a mecorrectly slightly, - that? it's all very champion, isn't it? if a mecorrectly slightly, in i it? if a mecorrectly slightly, in scotland, not very many people voted for borisjohnson. that is one of theissues for borisjohnson. that is one of the issues we face in scotland. we ended up with a prime minister who has repeatedly lied to the public, who has disgraced the office that he holds, and yet we could still in the future face being governed by people like him again in the future. so, for people in scotland the message is very clear. let's get rid of unelected, unaccountable tory governments forever.— unelected, unaccountable tory governments forever. let's vote for scottish independence. _ governments forever. let's vote for scottish independence. looking - governments forever. let's vote for scottish independence. looking at. scottish independence. looking at how these two narratives are playing out, we have got this report on what

the committee are saying, and we have got borisjohnson's narrative calling this hypocrisy, calling it unfair. when it comes to the truth in politics, how damaging is this that there is now seemingly clear line on what has happened here? look, i don't think anyone believes for a moment that borisjohnson understands the meaning of the word truth. they say is a man who lied about brexit. we are all still reeling from the economic consequences of that. he has built his entire career as a politician and being shady with the truth. at the committee has found is that he purposely lied to parliament. as prime minister he lied to parliament. and therefore, the people of the united kingdom. that is completely unacceptable so have —— unacceptable. that is why he needs to face the consequences. i look forward to that being the case on monday. in look forward to that being the case on monday-— on monday. in terms of what your constituents _ on monday. in terms of what your constituents are _ on monday. in terms of what your constituents are sent _ on monday. in terms of what your constituents are sent to _ on monday. in terms of what your constituents are sent to you - on monday. in terms of what your| constituents are sent to you about matters like this, what are you

hearing? matters like this, what are you hearin: ? ., ., ., , hearing? for a long time my constituents _ hearing? for a long time my constituents and _ hearing? for a long time my constituents and people - hearing? for a long time my i constituents and people across scotland have found borisjohnson to be an utterly bizarre character. that is why they shunned him at the ballot box, that is why he is one of the most unpopular politicians ever in scottish history, and it is why we need to ensure that we don't ever land ourselves in a situation where we have unelected, unaccountable tory governments in scotland. let's make sure we get governments we actually vote for, and the best way to do that is to make scotland independent. i to do that is to make scotland independent.— to do that is to make scotland independent. to do that is to make scotland indeendent. ~' ., ., , ., independent. i know that he is an im ortant independent. i know that he is an important message _ independent. i know that he is an important message for— independent. i know that he is an important message for you, - independent. i know that he is an important message for you, but l independent. i know that he is an i important message for you, butjust honing on what this means in the uk, borisjohnson was elected. very many people did vote for him. when it comes to personality and character, how important do you feel that is in politics today, or is it mostly by the vote winning? i politics today, or is it mostly by the vote winning?— politics today, or is it mostly by the vote winning? i would think that what matters _ the vote winning? i would think that what matters in _ the vote winning? i would think that what matters in politics _ the vote winning? i would think that what matters in politics is _ the vote winning? i would think that what matters in politics is having i the vote winning? i would think that what matters in politics is having a i what matters in politics is having a good understanding about what people want and to be honest and truthful with them. borisjohnson was neither

of those people. —— things. we were all suffering. i have not read the report yet. i have seen some of the extracts. wind time friday was still very much a thing in downing street. —— wine. this is a government completely detached from reality. the cost of living crisis, which is the thing most people across scotland and indeed the uk really want to be talking about that. they want to be talking about that. they want that to be addressed, the damage bugs to be addressed. when we look at this report in its entirety is this why borisjohnson needs to repay the legal costs, we need to recoup them and make sure he does not have the former prime minister's allowance. and of course it is why borisjohnson allowance. and of course it is why boris johnson needs allowance. and of course it is why borisjohnson needs to allowance. and of course it is why boris johnson needs to feel the full wrath of on monday.— boris johnson needs to feel the full wrath of on monday. looking at the recommendations _ wrath of on monday. looking at the recommendations by _ wrath of on monday. looking at the recommendations by the _ wrath of on monday. looking at the | recommendations by the committee wrath of on monday. looking at the - recommendations by the committee for sanctions, they voted to suspend him for 90 days, to take away his parliamentary pass. do you think thatis parliamentary pass. do you think that is appropriate? i’m parliamentary pass. do you think that is appropriate?— parliamentary pass. do you think that is appropriate? i'm not sure it noes far that is appropriate? i'm not sure it goes far enough. _ that is appropriate? i'm not sure it goes far enough. as _

that is appropriate? i'm not sure it goes far enough. as i _ that is appropriate? i'm not sure it goes far enough. as i have - that is appropriate? i'm not sure it goes far enough. as i have already outlined, we have had this extraordinary situation where a sitting prime minister has openly sought to mislead parliament, and has done it in a deliberate fashion. he is a liar. this man should not be allowed to get away with it. the committee has been quite clear in its recommendations. i have put forward already in this discussion a few other alternative things we should be looking at. why is it that a man who has lied to parliament is allowed to receive an allowance as a former prime minister? why is the public paying for his legal fees? why is it that a disgraced prime minister is able to put people in that place behind me, the house of lords? nobody in scotland would vote for that. lords? nobody in scotland would vote forthat. he lords? nobody in scotland would vote for that. he was fined, of course, by the police for his actions over partygate. he has been found conclusively, by the committee, a committee with many esteemed conservative members upon it, he has the right to express his views, but his views are very donald trump at

the moment. he is throwing dirt around in any way he can because he now he has been banged to rights, he's a liar and he has been found out. it he's a liar and he has been found out. , ., ., , ., out. it is important of course to remember _ out. it is important of course to remember the _ out. it is important of course to remember the heart of what i out. it is important of course to | remember the heart of what the committee was investigating here, which is not whether there were parties going on during the lockdown, because they had already been fined for that. this was specifically about whether boris johnson, notjust misled parliament, but deliberately misled parliament? yes, indeed. he didjust but deliberately misled parliament? yes, indeed. he did just that. the committee has been quite clear within its findings. of course, my colleague, who sits on the committee, sought to push things a little bit further than others. i saw a tweet which suggested that you try to get borisjohnson to explode... in real terms we need a sanction which most people would find appropriate, but there are many other things that need to happen as well. in relation to the legal costs, the fact he should not be

allowed to put people in the house of lords, and he shouldn't be entitled to a prime minister's allowance, given a disgraced he has beenin allowance, given a disgraced he has been in office.— been in office. your views are obviously _ been in office. your views are obviously very _ been in office. your views are obviously very clear. - been in office. your views are obviously very clear. i - been in office. your views are obviously very clear. i want i been in office. your views are | obviously very clear. i want to been in office. your views are - obviously very clear. i want to put to use of the views we have been gathering to people listening to bbc five live or nicky these inherited spoke to five live and she says, she thinks... i beg your pardon, this is genin whitley bay who says, i think it is a big stitch up, i am so annoyed about it. they are all liars, i am sure they are, apart from him. they have really gunned him down, i'm really upset about it. i feel so sorry for boris. theyjust want him out. now there are people with that sentiment. i mean, how do you sort of merge that, # tried to contextualise that, with everything that you are seeing? i contextualise that, with everything that you are seeing?— that you are seeing? i think it is robabl that you are seeing? i think it is probably unrealistic _ that you are seeing? i think it is probably unrealistic to - that you are seeing? i think it is probably unrealistic to suggest l that you are seeing? i think it isj probably unrealistic to suggest i can convincejen of an opposite argument. i'm no fan of this place.

i am a big fan of scottish independence. i want to be as far away from this place is possible for the good of scottish independence. there is a committee put in place to look at the behaviours of a prime minister. they have proven that cross party committee, they have proven, and conclusively stated, that boris johnson proven, and conclusively stated, that borisjohnson deliberately lied to parliament. that wine time friday was ongoing while the rest of us were sat at home dealing with the impacts of the pandemic, unable to see loved ones, friends and family. i don't think we should in any way seek to deviate from the scale of what we are talking about here. it is in borisjohnson's interests to have people believe this is some kind of stitch up, that he can come back once again. nobody should be coming back from this. the man is a liar and he has been proven to have lied to parliament.— lied to parliament. stephen flynn, thank ou lied to parliament. stephen flynn, thank you for— lied to parliament. stephen flynn, thank you forjoining _ lied to parliament. stephen flynn, thank you forjoining us. _ lied to parliament. stephen flynn, thank you forjoining us. stephen i lied to parliament. stephen flynn, | thank you forjoining us. stephen is westminster leader for the snp. we

continue to get reaction, of course, from across the board. this is a big moment in politics. let's now hear from angela rayner, labour or deputy leader. i think the report is pretty damning. it's serious. borisjohnson is not only a lawbreaker, but a liar. he is not fit for public office and he has disgraced himself and continues to act like a pound shop trump in the way he tries to discredit anybody who criticises his actions, when actually, a decent public servant would have done the honourable thing, would have had a little bit of humility, and would have apologised to the british public for what they put them through. he says he hasn't done anything wrong, that it is a witch hunt, that they have set out to get him from they have set out to get him from the beginning. what you make of that? i the beginning. what you make of that? 4' the beginning. what you make of that? ~ �* , ., ., ., the beginning. what you make of that? ~ �*, ., ., ., , , , that? i think it's a lot of rubbish. and he knows — that? i think it's a lot of rubbish. and he knows it. _ that? i think it's a lot of rubbish. and he knows it. and _ that? i think it's a lot of rubbish. and he knows it. and that's - that? i think it's a lot of rubbish. and he knows it. and that's why| that? i think it's a lot of rubbish. i and he knows it. and that's why he didn't challenge his seat. that is why he has resigned, because he knows he wouldn't win that by—election. he knows the public can

see through this act, this clown act that he puts on. it is pretty obvious that report is damning as to what happened. and he has disgraced himself. he should apologise to the british people. and rishi sunak shouldn't have popped up for as long as he has, the british public should not be paying for the lawbreaker and the liar for his legal defence when he has not got a defence when he's bang to rights and what he's done. that was deputy labour leader angela rayner with her reaction. let's get some more reaction. i am joined by brendan clark smith, conservative mp. andyjohnson supporter. what sort of argument can you make today? i think we are absolutely appalled. this seems very vindictive, very spiteful, — this seems very vindictive, very spiteful, and i would say a complete overreach _ spiteful, and i would say a complete overreach. 90 days and taking summary's pass off them is the equivalent of putting somebody in the stocks and touring them around the stocks and touring them around the country — the stocks and touring them around the country. i think borisjohnson,

he gave _ the country. i think borisjohnson, he gave a — the country. i think borisjohnson, he gave a very good account of himself — he gave a very good account of himself. he explained a lot of things — himself. he explained a lot of things. of the crystal ball is there and if— things. of the crystal ball is there and if he — things. of the crystal ball is there and if he can obviously see into his mind _ and if he can obviously see into his mind and _ and if he can obviously see into his mind and have decided he is guilty of whatever it is. —— they can obviously— of whatever it is. —— they can obviously see into his mind. no court _ obviously see into his mind. no court of— obviously see into his mind. no court of law would accept this. we have _ court of law would accept this. we have these — court of law would accept this. we have these conclusions in front of us and _ have these conclusions in front of us and speak in the house on monday, i will us and speak in the house on monday, i will be _ us and speak in the house on monday, i will be voting and speaking against _ i will be voting and speaking against it. i will be voting and speaking against it— i will be voting and speaking aainst it. ., ,, ., . i, ., against it. talking about crystal balls, against it. talking about crystal balls. and _ against it. talking about crystal balls, and looking _ against it. talking about crystal balls, and looking into - against it. talking about crystal balls, and looking into his- against it. talking about crystall balls, and looking into his mind, this was a committee sent to look at the facts, look at the evidence, and make a conclusion. how could they have done this differently? ltrefoil. have done this differently? well, absolutely- _ have done this differently? well, absolutely- i— have done this differently? well, absolutely. i respect _ have done this differently? well, absolutely. i respect that. - have done this differently? well, absolutely. i respect that. that l have done this differently? well, | absolutely. i respect that. that is why i suddenly get them time to do that. they should not have been obstructive. give them time to produce their conclusions. that is why i have waited. i have a look that report. i am saying what i am now based on what they put in front of us. i think there are a number of questions you have got to ask. the original chair, of course, the committee had to recuse himself because of comments made that were negative about borisjohnson. it then turns out the chair we have had

since then has also made comments and hasn't recused himself. again, in a court of law you wouldn't get it. there are other things that have come out since. i would say this is very unfair. i think it has gone beyond its remit. the metropolitan police, of course, only issued that one fine, which many people disagreed with, to borisjohnson and rishi sunak at the time. but the committee seem to be talking beyond face and almost really as though examining the law. that was not the remit. , examining the law. that was not the remit, , ., , remit. so, 'ust to put it quite clearl remit. so, just to put it quite clearly and — remit. so, just to put it quite clearly and plainly, _ remit. so, just to put it quite clearly and plainly, to - remit. so, just to put it quite clearly and plainly, to your i remit. so, just to put it quite - clearly and plainly, to your mind, what is borisjohnson's defence? boris johnson's defence what is borisjohnson's defence? borisjohnson's defence is very boris johnson's defence is very robust — boris johnson's defence is very robust he _ boris johnson's defence is very robust. he has put that in a statement that he put also when he was interviewed by the committee as well. was interviewed by the committee as well to _ was interviewed by the committee as well~ to his— was interviewed by the committee as well. to his knowledge the information that he was given command that you provide to the house, _ command that you provide to the house, he — command that you provide to the house, he believed to be correct at the time _ house, he believed to be correct at the time i— house, he believed to be correct at the time. i have at the same thing as a ministerand i've the time. i have at the same thing as a minister and i've studied a the time. i have at the same thing as a ministerand i've studied a —— dispatch— as a ministerand i've studied a —— dispatch box, _ as a ministerand i've studied a —— dispatch box, made a statement. sometimes you get things wrong, the information changes, there are

omissions, _ information changes, there are omissions, then you have to come back— omissions, then you have to come back to _ omissions, then you have to come back to the — omissions, then you have to come back to the house and correctly record — back to the house and correctly record. borisjohnson did that. he also apologised for some of the actions — also apologised for some of the actions that went on. things that happened — actions that went on. things that happened when was not actually present— happened when was not actually present and was relying on the information of others. he was very clear— information of others. he was very clear about — information of others. he was very clear about that. with crystal balls how is _ clear about that. with crystal balls how is it _ clear about that. with crystal balls how is it possible to look into the mind _ how is it possible to look into the mind of— how is it possible to look into the mind of borisjohnson and say how is it possible to look into the mind of boris johnson and say with certainty— mind of boris johnson and say with certainty that he misled the house? i certainty that he misled the house? i don't _ certainty that he misled the house? i don't believe they can. if that was the case then there was no point in having the privileges committee looking into this? surely there was a way to tell whether he had deliberately misled parliament or not, and the committee has found that he did? i not, and the committee has found that he did?— that he did? i agree. i wouldn't have had a _ that he did? i agree. i wouldn't have had a go _ that he did? i agree. i wouldn't have had a go to _ that he did? i agree. i wouldn't have had a go to the _ that he did? i agree. i wouldn't have had a go to the privileges| have had a go to the privileges committee in the first place because ithink— committee in the first place because i think he _ committee in the first place because i think he was very clear with his explanations. i think the deficiencies that we have seen since, _ deficiencies that we have seen since. the _ deficiencies that we have seen since, the way it has been used as a political— since, the way it has been used as a political football and kicked about, again. _ political football and kicked about, again. is— political football and kicked about, again. is it — political football and kicked about, again, is it really about fairness? can we _ again, is it really about fairness? can we say— again, is it really about fairness? can we say that he has been treated properly— can we say that he has been treated properly and is at the same treatment anybody else will get? i'm

sure boris— treatment anybody else will get? i'm sure borisjohnson will treatment anybody else will get? i'm sure boris johnson will be arguing absolutely not. what i would say, as members _ absolutely not. what i would say, as members of — absolutely not. what i would say, as members of this house it is very important — members of this house it is very important we can scrutinise this. i think— important we can scrutinise this. i think it _ important we can scrutinise this. i think it is — important we can scrutinise this. i think it is very disappointing that backbenchers have been threatened if we are _ backbenchers have been threatened if we are critical of the report of the committee — we are critical of the report of the committee. that is ourjob. the people — committee. that is ourjob. the people put— committee. that is ourjob. the people put as to scrutinise and nobody — people put as to scrutinise and nobody is _ people put as to scrutinise and nobody is beyond scrutiny. summer term about the way boris johnson treated the committee was a regular, and the way that the institution... regular, and the way that the institution. . ._ regular, and the way that the institution... the institution is important. — institution. .. the institution is important. for— institution... the institution is important, for protecting - institution... the institution is| important, for protecting those traditions. forthe people important, for protecting those traditions. for the people of this country — traditions. for the people of this country, these are the real people who are _ country, these are the real people who are suffering. as politicians, they put — who are suffering. as politicians, they put us — who are suffering. as politicians, they put us here, they expect to be able to— they put us here, they expect to be able to remove us when they don't think— able to remove us when they don't think we _ able to remove us when they don't think we do— able to remove us when they don't think we do a very good job. i think you are _ think we do a very good job. i think you are on — think we do a very good job. i think you are on very dangerous ground when _ you are on very dangerous ground when you — you are on very dangerous ground when you get mps deciding on other mps, _ when you get mps deciding on other mps. and _ when you get mps deciding on other mps, and who can and cannot be a house _ mps, and who can and cannot be a house. ., ., �* ., , mps, and who can and cannot be a house. ., ., 1, , _, house. having said that, boris could have stayed — house. having said that, boris could

have stayed on. _ house. having said that, boris could have stayed on, could _ house. having said that, boris could have stayed on, could have -