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hello, i'm matthew amroliwala, welcome to verified live — three hours of breaking stories, and checking out the truth behind them. let's start in westminster and that damning report that's been published which says the former prime minister, borisjohnson deliberately and repeatedly misled mps about parties at 10 downing street, when coronavirus lockdown measures were in place. that's the conclusion of a report by a committee of mps which says, it would have recommended suspending him as an mp for 90 days, if he hadn't already stood down after he was given an advanced copy of the report last week. it also recommends that the former pm should not receive a members pass which allows ex—mps to access parliament after they leave.
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borisjohnson has admitted his statements about the parties misled parliament, but denied doing so intentionally. he described today's report as rubbish and deranged. let's go straight to westminster and our reporter who's been there throughout the course of today on this report is brutal, excoriating, damning in every detail.- damning in every detail. that's riuht. damning in every detail. that's right- it's _ damning in every detail. that's right. it's been _ damning in every detail. that's right. it's been more _ damning in every detail. that's right. it's been more than - damning in every detail. that's right. it's been more than a . damning in every detail. that's i right. it's been more than a year damning in every detail. that's - right. it's been more than a year in the making and it's one of those reports were reallyjournalists had been briefed extensively about what might be in it but almost no one expected this level of, as you say, complete... there was no holding back at all. this report was categorically saying that boris johnson did lied to parliament. of course there are two things, first the fact that this report says he misled parliament, he deliberately did that but also his conduct while
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the investigation was going on, his attacks on the members of this privileges committee, that was taken into consideration in the report as well. so, reactions are coming in thick and fast and will bring you some of them but first why don't we take stock of what has happened today so far and what led to this report. here is helen catt. after almost a year of investigating, as big ben struck 9:00, there came an explosive verdict. the former prime minister deliberately misled parliament when he made statements like this. mr speaker, i am sure that, whatever happened, the guidance was followed and the rules were followed at all times. he'd committed a serious contempt, the committee said, and has racked up more since. borisjohnson gave evidence to the committee in march. he was asked to explain why he told parliament the guidance was followed when he had been at events like this one in downing street where there was clearly
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little social distancing. the committee said his explanations were, "so disingenuous they were by their very nature deliberate attempts to mislead." that he had, "sought to rewrite the meanings of the rules and guidance to fit his own evidence" and he had "closed his mind to the truth." borisjohnson is not only a lawbreaker, but a liar. he's not fit for public office and he's disgraced himself and continues to act like a pound—shop trump in the way he tries to discredit anyone who criticises his actions, when actually a decent public servant would have done the honourable thing, would have had a bit of humility and apologised to the british public for what he put them through. the report has also criticised mrjohnson�*s behaviour in recent days. last week he announced he was resigning, attacking the committee as "a kangaroo court." i swear by almighty god... another serious contempt, the committee said, which would have increased the recommended suspension to 90 days.
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mrjohnson said the findings were rubbish and a lie and said to reach this deranged conclusion, the committee had been obliged to say a series of things that were patently absurd, and it was a dreadful day for mps and democracy. he does have some supporters who share his view. i think it is spiteful, vindictive, overreaching, quite frankly. this is a completely unfair report as borisjohnson says, it feels very much like a stitch—up. in terms of due process, i don't think he has been treated fairly at all. saying he has deliberately misled the house, how can they possibly come to that conclusion? where is the evidence? i have not seen any. i will be speaking against this, voting against this and i hope other colleagues do as well. call a general election. the leader of the house said that vote would happen on monday. it will be a painful process and a sad process. all of us must do what we think
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is right and others must leave us alone to do so. the prime minister was out on an immigration raid in london early this morning and number 10 say they do not know if he has read the report. he certainly hadn't when he spoke tojournalists in an interview scheduled before it was published. i have not seen it, it would not be right to comment in advance of it being published. this time last year, borisjohnson was still prime minister. is this the end? this morning, now not even an mp, he was out for a run. he has said he wanted to come back to parliament. this report is likely to make that significantly harder. borisjohnson boris johnson jumped before he borisjohnsonjumped before he was
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borisjohnson jumped before he was pushed. borisjohnsonjumped before he was pushed. he resigned as an mp and now we know that this committee was going to recommend a 90 day suspension. that's no longer possible because borisjohnson has already resigned but now that we know what he knew then when he made that resignation, what is in this report? let's look at this report in much more detail with our political correspondent, jonathan blake in the newsroom. we've heard an overview of the contents and a summary of its main findings. as we've heard it pulls no punches in its conclusions about borisjohnson punches in its conclusions about boris johnson having punches in its conclusions about borisjohnson having misled parliament deliberately on several occasions and committed repeated contempt of parliament. the report has also thrown up some unexpected information and findings. so, if we look first at other gatherings as the committee called them, they
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found themselves being handed evidence not too long ago back in may from the government to do with gatherings at downing street and chequers which may have constituted breaches of restrictions. this was in the process of lawyers preparing evidence that the covid inquiry. as the committee highlights, they found several instances of diary entries which could have been potentially problematic based on an assessment by the government legal department, they looked at material, asked for a response from boris johnson whose lawyers told the committee they say that none of them constitute breaches of covid regulations and no one has ever raised any concerns whatsoever with borisjohnson. in this case the committee was satisfied, they said they didn't want further delay to the
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publication of the inquiry and they took boris johnson's publication of the inquiry and they took borisjohnson's denial the took boris johnson's denial the rules took borisjohnson's denial the rules were broken at any of those events at face value. they say if anything comes to light that suggests that wasn't the case it may be considered a further contempt of parliament. also let's have a look at the committee's response to the letter boris johnson at the committee's response to the letter borisjohnson sent earlier this week after he was given a copy of the report's draft findings. it led him to resign as an mp and he wrote at length back to the committee raising several issues. he talks about the committee purporting to rule as a matter of law that it could not reasonably be necessary for work to attend a gathering purely to raise staff morale. he is talking about that because several of the events, the six events the committee looked at during the pandemic where rules were broken, some of which were defended on the basis of boosting staff morale.
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borisjohnson takes issue with the committee's view that that couldn't mean they were reasonably necessary for work purposes and would therefore be against the law. the committee writes back that it doesn't interpret the law, it does however, it is however entitled to compare the plain language of the rules and guidance with what mr johnson said at the time when he was exhausting the public to follow those rules and guidance —— exhorting the public. briefly, also worth considering, two mps on the committee as we read in the minutes wanted boris johnson committee as we read in the minutes wanted borisjohnson expelled from parliament rather than just suspended but they were overruled by the four conservative members of the committee. . ~ the four conservative members of the committee. ., ~ , ., ., ., , committee. thank you, that was jonathan blake _ committee. thank you, that was jonathan blake looking - committee. thank you, that was jonathan blake looking at - committee. thank you, that was jonathan blake looking at some | committee. thank you, that was i jonathan blake looking at some of the detail that is in that excoriating report. it's worth remembering that what the committee was investigating is not whether borisjohnson was investigating is not whether boris johnson attended was investigating is not whether
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borisjohnson attended parties, it's whether he lied to parliament about what you knew about those parties and his involvement in them. that's why they have said that they believe that he deliberately misled parliament and that he knew he was doing so and that is the crucial finding in the report. but matthew, of course, this report doesn't seem to have changed many people's minds who had already made up their minds about borisjohnson. those who supported him before are still supporting him now. it remains to be seen what rishi sunak will say about the report. we haven't had a formal statement from him yet but we will continue to bring you more reactions as they come in. studio: the only thing we've heard from the prime minister is that clip we played earlier before the publication of the damning report. adam fleming is in the newsroom. this committee used parliamentary
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language, talked about deliberately misleading parliament on the public, the committee, what everyone else calls lying. the committee, what everyone else calls i inc. , the committee, what everyone else callsl inc. , the committee, what everyone else callslinu. , �* calls lying. yes, matthew. i've taken a break _ calls lying. yes, matthew. i've taken a break from _ calls lying. yes, matthew. i've taken a break from doing - calls lying. yes, matthew. i've taken a break from doing daily taken a breakfrom doing daily political needs to do our daily podcast so that's the point of view i'm looking at it from. so having been a political correspondent are now taking more of the bird's eye view. and also i've been doing another episode of our old podcast series boris where we charted his rise and fall. we don a bonus episode asking people who know him and observe him for their reaction to the report today. i've been chatting to quite a few people and looking at it from a few different angles but that point you made about the fact that he is described as a lawyer, that is the key thing about the report. it is about truth, honesty, integrity which are such quintessential elements of british parliamentary business and life in the house of commons that that is why members of parliament refer to
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themselves and each other as honourable members. the honourable memberfor wimbledon or honourable members. the honourable member for wimbledon or uxbridge honourable members. the honourable memberfor wimbledon or uxbridge or manchester west. the idea behind calling somebody an honourable member is because it's theoretically impossible for a member of parliament to lie in the chamber because telling the truth and being honest is such a quintessential element of parliamentary business in british democracy. so, that is why people telling the truth or not telling the truth, lying, has been such a big dealfor the mps on this committee and why this whole episode has been such a big dealfor parliament as a british democratic institution. {iii parliament as a british democratic institution. .., , ., institution. of course, the other crucial thing _ institution. of course, the other crucial thing is _ institution. of course, the other crucial thing is to _ institution. of course, the other crucial thing is to see _ institution. of course, the other crucial thing is to see this - institution. of course, the other l crucial thing is to see this through the prism of the institutions, the way they work and of course a lot of mps really concerned about the way borisjohnson mps really concerned about the way boris johnson reacted mps really concerned about the way borisjohnson reacted last friday, that statement, the way he's talked about this committee, the way it works and whether that is undermining the way basic
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institutions and our democracy actually work.— institutions and our democracy actually work. yes, that was the other thing _ actually work. yes, that was the other thing that _ actually work. yes, that was the other thing that really _ actually work. yes, that was the other thing that really surprised | other thing that really surprised me, quickly reading this report when it came out this morning, was just what an impact on the committee levels of borisjohnson's actions after he had given evidence, after they had finished their inquiry, after they cemented the report to him and after they made statements about that —— submitted the report. his statements, actions, criticism of the mps on the committee down to actual individuals and making quite declines some people might say about them, that has really, really rankled the committee. as we've been hearing today, that is why the length of that suspension went up and up and up and ended up at 90 days. if you come up parliament with the integrity of parliament and parliament will fight you back, back to the point about how
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quintessential these values are to british democracy. monday will be really interesting when the house of commons has to vote because that will give us a sense of how much borisjohnson has support on the conservative backbenches and how much of a running problem this could potentially be for his successor rishi sunak.— potentially be for his successor rishi sunak. ., ~ , ., ., ., ~ , rishi sunak. thank you for taking us throu~h rishi sunak. thank you for taking us through that. so _ rishi sunak. thank you for taking us through that. so much _ rishi sunak. thank you for taking us through that. so much more - rishi sunak. thank you for taking us through that. so much more on - rishi sunak. thank you for taking us through that. so much more on that story through the course of the day on bbc news. suella braverman has visited nottingham and laid flowers for the victims of the attacks. another visual be held later today in memory of two university students and a 65—year—old man who were stabbed to death in nottingham on tuesday morning. police in nottingham have been given more time to question a 31—year—old man on suspicion of murder. double child killer and rapist colin pitchfork has been
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granted parole and will be released from prison. he was jailed for life for raping and strangling 2is—year—old girls in leicestershire in 1983 215—year—old girls in leicestershire in 1983 and 1986 -- 215—year—old girls in leicestershire in 1983 and 1986 —— two 15—year—olds. he was released in 2021 and sent back to prison two months later. a mother has been jailed for 27 years for the manslaughter of her nine—year—old son alfie steele and child cruelty charges. her partner was given a life sentence for murder. alfie died in 2021 after being deliberately submerged in a cold bath. thejudge said the suffering inflicted on him was sadistic. three days of national mourning have been declared in greece when the boat they were —— when 79 migrants died when the vessel capsized.
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survivors have suggested as many as 750 people might have been on board including children. you can see just how packed the boat was. barely room to move and not a life jacket in sight. we don't yet know who the victims are, but every one of them had a name, friends, family, and their own reason for making a deadlyjourney. the greek coastguard rescued more than 100 people after the boat's engine apparently failed. but they are facing heavy criticism for not intervening earlier. charities say they knew it was in distress for hours before the fishing vessel sank in one of the deepest parts of the mediterranean. the greek authorities say their initial offers of help were refused because those in charge of the boat wanted to head for italy. but it's unlikely this young survivor, or any others, had a choice. many of those brought to safety on land need medical treatment and are deeply traumatised. one young man started to cry
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and said, "i need my "mother, i need my mother." this was a very difficult moment, to listen to a young man who needs his mother and to cry, "i need my mum. "i need my mother." this voice is inside my ears. it is bodies now being brought to shore. there is very slim hope of finding anyone else alive. and a big question hanging over the search effort — exactly how many people were on board. people are still in shock. they're trying to give some details now about their relatives, their friends, who were in the boat. they cannot find them. some survivors have spoken of the trawler carrying as many as 700 people when it set off from the libyan port of tobruk five days ago. one told a hospital doctor that there had been 100 children in its hold. but most of those saved have been young men. a local health official said the disaster was unprecedented in scale. it's the worst tragedy in the mediterranean sea for years,
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and likely to be one of the deadliest ever. caroline hawley, bbc news. live now to kalamata, with red cross volunteer, dimitris chaliotis. every detail of this is horrifying. take me through the day that you've had. �* ., , ., ., take me through the day that you've had. �* .,, ., ., ., ., had. and there was a lot of pain on the faces of — had. and there was a lot of pain on the faces of survivors. _ had. and there was a lot of pain on the faces of survivors. they - had. and there was a lot of pain on the faces of survivors. they have . the faces of survivors. they have already been on this boat for days, they have suffered a lack of water and other basic supplies during the trip. unfortunately, they ended up in this wreck. it was a tremendous feeling to see all these people who survived, looking for their family and friends and their beloved
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persons. they had no answers to the questions as to what had really happened. questions as to what had really happened-— happened. that must be really distressing _ happened. that must be really distressing to _ happened. that must be really distressing to witness. - happened. that must be really distressing to witness. in - happened. that must be reallyl distressing to witness. in terms happened. that must be really - distressing to witness. in terms of the conversations you've had, what are people saying to you about the sorts of numbers that were on this boat roughly? the sorts of numbers that were on this boat roughly?— boat roughly? the numbers as discussed _ boat roughly? the numbers as discussed with _ boat roughly? the numbers as discussed with survivors - boat roughly? the numbers as discussed with survivors are i boat roughly? the numbers as - discussed with survivors are similar to the numbers you have just mentioned. the boat was filled with may be more than 700 people. most of them most likely have very little chance to survive after these hours have passed since the incident. share have passed since the incident. are there are reports of up to 100 children on board? and most of the
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women and children were below deck? the people who seems to have survived where the men who were on the top of the boat but most of the women and children were below deck. the ironic thing is that the men were trying to protect the children and the women by putting them on the lower decks of the ship. eventually, it ended up being a trap. in lower decks of the ship. eventually, it ended up being a trap.— it ended up being a trap. in terms of those peeple — it ended up being a trap. in terms of those people who _ it ended up being a trap. in terms of those people who survived, - it ended up being a trap. in terms| of those people who survived, just give me a sense of the condition of many of them. you mentioned the search is a little earlier. have they now concluded? trio. search is a little earlier. have they now concluded?- search is a little earlier. have they now concluded? no, we are still hoinr to they now concluded? no, we are still honing to find — they now concluded? no, we are still honing to find any — they now concluded? no, we are still hoping to find any survivors - they now concluded? no, we are still hoping to find any survivors but - they now concluded? no, we are still hoping to find any survivors but the l hoping to find any survivors but the possibilities are getting smaller as time passes and we tend to think
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that it will be not a good chance to find someone alive. i that it will be not a good chance to find someone alive.— find someone alive. i know it has been a dreadful— find someone alive. i know it has been a dreadful day _ find someone alive. i know it has been a dreadful day for _ find someone alive. i know it has been a dreadful day for you - find someone alive. i know it has been a dreadful day for you and i find someone alive. i know it has i been a dreadful day for you and you have just finished your shift. we really appreciate the time you have taken to speak to us. thank you. more on that story later on the programme. a number of nato members are meeting in brussels to discuss training ukrainian pilots to fly f16s but there are still no decisions as to whether ukraine will be provided with western jets or wine. the us defence secretary has just announced new funding and support for ukraine —— provided with western jets or when. -- provided with western 'ets or when. . . .
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-- provided with western 'ets or when. . ., ., ., ., -- provided with western 'ets or when. ., ., ., ., ., '1 iii: when. canada committed another $500 million package — when. canada committed another $500 million package to _ when. canada committed another $500 million package to support _ when. canada committed another $500 million package to support ukraine - million package to support ukraine and that will include more than 200 air defence missiles to help protect ukraine's skies. the us along with the uk, denmark and the netherlands all contributed funding for additional critical air defence missiles for ukraine. italy also announced assistance including highly critical capabilities that meet ukraine's most urgent needs to defend itself. several allies are beginning to think about supporting ukraine for the long—term. live now to colonel brendan kearney, a former chief of staff for us marine corps forces in europe. we are waiting to see more of the detail coming to us in what those defence chiefs actually decide but let's talk about f16s because it's right on the agenda, how much of a game changer would that be if there are decisions on that?—
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are decisions on that? matthew, it would be a — are decisions on that? matthew, it would be a big _ are decisions on that? matthew, it would be a big game _ are decisions on that? matthew, it would be a big game changer. - are decisions on that? matthew, it l would be a big game changer. those f16s are technologically so much more advanced than any of the aircraft that have flown over ukraine in the last year under this conflict. they are a superb aircraft with ukrainian pilots that are already combat veterans and who are technologically adept, used to flying those high—tech aircraft. i think they will make a big difference in terms of the battle. in terms of the counteroffensive for the early stages of it, what is your assessment? i the early stages of it, what is your assessment?— the early stages of it, what is your assessment? i think the ukrainians are makin: assessment? i think the ukrainians are making progress. _ assessment? i think the ukrainians are making progress. i'm _ assessment? i think the ukrainians are making progress. i'm not - are making progress. i'm not surprised that it seems slowjust now with the amount of terrain they are occupying, they are taking back
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from the russians, seemingly not a whole lot of terrain but what's going to happen as they are looking, they are probing to look for those weaknesses in the russian defensive lines that they can go ahead and exploit and once they do exploit that, i think you're going to see a breakthrough of ukrainian armoured forces that could very conceivably cause the russians to have to roll back their very, very rapidly. if ukrainians can fight and get towards the sea of as —— azov, they will be a force that will be difficult for the russians to defend. haifa a force that will be difficult for the russians to defend. how much could the russian _ the russians to defend. how much could the russian offensive - the russians to defend. how much| could the russian offensive change the dynamic when and if that comes? i'm not sure we're going to see a
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russian offensive. i think there will be global counteroffensive moves going on but i don't think the russians have the strength to conduct an offensive that will be of such significance to stop the ukrainians. i might be wrong but i just don't see them having that strength and logistics nor the command and leadership, nor morale to be able to pull that type of thing off. to be able to pull that type of thin off. ., ~ to be able to pull that type of thin off. ., ,, i. to be able to pull that type of thin off. . ~ i. ., to be able to pull that type of thin off. ., ~' ,, ., ., to be able to pull that type of thin off. ., ~ ,, ., ., , thing off. thank you for 'oining us on the programme, _ thing off. thank you forjoining us on the programme, colonel, - thing off. thank you forjoining us on the programme, colonel, we i thing off. thank you forjoining us i on the programme, colonel, we will keep an eye on that story. we will return to that if there is more detail. i'm back with more of the day's headlines in a moment.
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hello, some of us have seen thunderstorms this week but for others, it has remained stubbornly dry. what chance of rain over the next few days? increasing thanks towards us currently a swirl of cloud a long way to the west of us, a developing area of low pressure. in the short—term, this afternoon, most places fine, dry and sunny, the chance of one or two showers, particularly in the west and they could be heavy and possibly thundery. temperatures again up to 26, 27 celsius, some places likely to get up to 28—29. overnight we will see clear skies, there could be clouds into the far northwest of scotland and by the end of the night, some cloud and the chance of thunderstorms in the far southwest of england. temperatures generally between 8—12 celsius. it may be chillier in northeast england and eastern scotland. into tomorrow, we will start to see more cloud and the chance of a shower across parts of southwest england, wales, the west midlands, into northern ireland, that could be the odd thunderstorm. further east, maybe the odd rogue
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shower but most places fine, dry, warm and temperatures into the mid—to—high 20 celsius. into the weekend, high pressure begins to make its move. for the time being, this low will remain to the western parts of the uk where we have the greatest chance of thundery rain, but broadly speaking, we have the increasing chance of rain through the weekend and there will be some spells of warm sunshine. on saturday, some showers, some thunderstorms, particularly across western parts, further east it should be largely dry, some low cloud for some eastern coasts for a time, still very warm, just a little bit less warm where you have more cloud and more of those showers. on sunday, uncertainty about how much showery rain there will be, we could see more persistent thundery rain drifting northwards, particularly later in the day. still feeling fairly warm in any sunshine, temperatures easily into the low 20 celsius, i wouldn't be surprised if somewhere got warmer than that.
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into next week, it will stay quite warm, but there will be some rain at times.
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this is bbc news. our main headlines... former prime minister borisjohnson deliberately misled parliament over breaches of covid
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