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attacks honour the victims of the attacks on tuesday. welcome to verified life. three hours of breaking stories and checking out the truth behind them. let's start in westminster, that report that is been published seeing the former prime minister boris johnson deliberately and repeatedly misled mps of our parties in downing street when coronavirus looked on measures are still in place. that is the conclusion of the report by this committee of mps which say they would've recommended suspending him as an mp for 90 days if he had not already stood down after he was giving that advanced copy of the report last week. it also recommends the former prime minister should not receive a members pass which allows former mps texas parliament after
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they leave. borisjohnson has admitted his statements about the parties misled parliament but denied doing so intentionally. he described the report as rubbish and lies. let's go straight westminster and this report cannot be more damning, could it? it this report cannot be more damning, could it? , . , ., could it? it is a blunt damning re ort could it? it is a blunt damning report and _ could it? it is a blunt damning report and many _ could it? it is a blunt damning report and many expected - could it? it is a blunt damning report and many expected to l could it? it is a blunt damning i report and many expected to be could it? it is a blunt damning - report and many expected to be if we are not beating around the bush about this, it is essentially saying that he lied, notjust a parliament but also to the committee that were investigating whether he misled mps and that is because his conclusions that he deliberately misled mps on multiple occasions about what he knew of her covid—19 rule breaking in downing street and he argued he did not do so deliberately and did so recklessly and he is called today's report rubbish and lies
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saying that it is a damaging day both for mps but also for democracy too. the report itself is divided in too. the report itself is divided in to an extent and there are a handful of vocal supporters of borisjohnson saying they do not want to back the report when there is a report about it on monday and a lot of them keeping quiet about it and something they'll respect the findings of it too in these developments in this afternoon, here's my colic support. after almost a year of investigating as big been struck nine, there was an explosive verdict. the former prime minister misled parliament when he made statements like this. whatever happened, the guidance was followed in the rules were followed at all times. followed in the rules were followed at all times-— at all times. he had committed a serious contempt _ at all times. he had committed a serious contempt and _ at all times. he had committed a serious contempt and racked - at all times. he had committed a serious contempt and racked up| at all times. he had committed a - serious contempt and racked up more
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sense. borisjohnson gave evidence to the committee in march and was asked to explain why he tore parliament that guidance was followed when he had been a defence like this one in downing street where there was clearly little social distancing. the committee said his explanations were so disingenuous... borisjohnson is not only a lawbreaker but a liar, he is not fit for public — lawbreaker but a liar, he is not fit for public office and continues to act like — for public office and continues to act like a — for public office and continues to act like a pound shop tromp in the way that— act like a pound shop tromp in the way that he — act like a pound shop tromp in the way that he tries to discredit anybody _ way that he tries to discredit anybody who criticises him when actually — anybody who criticises him when actually it — anybody who criticises him when actually it decent public service would've — actually it decent public service would've done the honourable thing and at _ would've done the honourable thing and at a _ would've done the honourable thing and at a little bit of humility and apologise — and at a little bit of humility and apologise to the british public for put them — apologise to the british public for put them through. also criticising his behaviour _ put them through. also criticising his behaviour in _ put them through. also criticising his behaviour in recent _ put them through. also criticising his behaviour in recent days. - put them through. also criticising his behaviour in recent days. lasti his behaviour in recent days. last week, he week, he said he was resigning, attacking the committee
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as a kangaroo court. i resigning, attacking the committee as a kangaroo court.— resigning, attacking the committee as a kangaroo court. i swear by god. in other serious _ as a kangaroo court. i swear by god. in other serious contempt _ as a kangaroo court. i swear by god. in other serious contempt which - in other serious contempt which would've significantly increased the recommended suspension to 90 days. in the statement, mrjohnson said the findings were... he does have some supporters who share his view. i he does have some supporters who share his view.— share his view. i think it is spiteful. _ share his view. i think it is spiteful, vindictive - share his view. i think it is spiteful, vindictive and - spiteful, vindictive and overreaching, quite frankly. this is a completely unfair report and boris johnson _ a completely unfair report and boris johnson since this is very much like a stewardship in terms of doing that, _ a stewardship in terms of doing that, i— a stewardship in terms of doing that, i don't think he has been treated — that, i don't think he has been treated fairly at all and sync to deliberately misled the house, how did they— deliberately misled the house, how did they come to that conclusion was made _ did they come to that conclusion was made where's the evidence for this? i'm made where's the evidence for this? i'm going _ made where's the evidence for this? i'm going to— made where's the evidence for this? i'm going to be speaking against this and — i'm going to be speaking against this and i'm going to be voting against — this and i'm going to be voting against this and help others do this as well _ against this and help others do this
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as well in— against this and help others do this as well. ., ., , ., as well. in the commons, the leader ofthe as well. in the commons, the leader of the house — as well. in the commons, the leader of the house said _ as well. in the commons, the leader of the house said that _ as well. in the commons, the leader of the house said that will— as well. in the commons, the leader of the house said that will happen i of the house said that will happen on monday. it of the house said that will happen on monday-— on monday. it will be a painful rocess on monday. it will be a painful process of— on monday. it will be a painful process of the _ on monday. it will be a painful process of the set _ on monday. it will be a painful process of the set process - on monday. it will be a painful process of the set process for| on monday. it will be a painful. process of the set process for all of us, _ process of the set process for all of us, the — process of the set process for all of us, the task— process of the set process for all of us, the task that _ process of the set process for all of us, the task that we _ process of the set process for all of us, the task that we face - of us, the task that we face on monday — of us, the task that we face on monday but _ of us, the task that we face on monday. but all— of us, the task that we face on monday. but all of _ of us, the task that we face on monday. but all of us - of us, the task that we face on monday. but all of us must - of us, the task that we face on - monday. but all of us must do what we think— monday. but all of us must do what we think is— monday. but all of us must do what we think is right _ monday. but all of us must do what we think is right and _ monday. but all of us must do what we think is right and others - monday. but all of us must do what we think is right and others must i we think is right and others must leave _ we think is right and others must leave us— we think is right and others must leave us alone _ we think is right and others must leave us alone to _ we think is right and others must leave us alone to do _ we think is right and others must leave us alone to do so. - we think is right and others must leave us alone to do so. the - we think is right and others must leave us alone to do so. the prime minister was _ leave us alone to do so. the prime minister was out _ leave us alone to do so. the prime minister was out on _ leave us alone to do so. the prime minister was out on an _ leave us alone to do so. the prime | minister was out on an immigration raid on monday. we do not know of is read the report yet and he certainly has him spoke to journalists read the report yet and he certainly has him spoke tojournalists in read the report yet and he certainly has him spoke to journalists in an interview scheduled for before it was published.— interview scheduled for before it was ublished. ., �* ., ,, ., was published. you're talking about a re ort was published. you're talking about a report that _ was published. you're talking about a report that no _ was published. you're talking about a report that no one _ was published. you're talking about a report that no one has _ was published. you're talking about a report that no one has seen - was published. you're talking about a report that no one has seen and l was published. you're talking aboutj a report that no one has seen and it would not be right to comment on it. this time last year, borisjohnson was still prime minister. this morning, not even an mp, he was out for a run. morning, not even an mp, he was out fora run. he has morning, not even an mp, he was out for a run. he has said morning, not even an mp, he was out fora run. he has said he morning, not even an mp, he was out for a run. he has said he wanted to come back to parliament. this report wholesale savaging of his conduct towards it is likely to make that significantly harder.
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let's speak to the political columnist and welcomed into the programme, or political careers endedin programme, or political careers ended in failure and borisjohnson's ends in disgrace, doesn't it? and it ends in disgrace, doesn't it? and it is uuite a ends in disgrace, doesn't it? and it is quite a fall. _ ends in disgrace, doesn't it? and it is quite a fall, a _ ends in disgrace, doesn't it? and it is quite a fall, a year— ends in disgrace, doesn't it? and it is quite a fall, a year he _ ends in disgrace, doesn't it? and it is quite a fall, a year he was - ends in disgrace, doesn't it? and it is quite a fall, a year he was prime| is quite a fall, a year he was prime minister and now he is not an mp and it's important to remember that he has chosen this route, the committee had no power in itself to reject them from the commons, that would've been a matter for the commons. them from the commons, that would've been a matterfor the commons. what is interesting in all of this is that if borisjohnson really thought this report was so unfair and disgraceful product of a kangaroo court, why do need to the moment the theatre in the house of commons of theatre in the house of commons of the huge commons majority and tear? i think the answer there is a bit of him, a tiny bit of them than is the committee is called to him out. qatar; committee is called to him out. away from the noise. _ committee is called to him out. away from the noise, what _
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committee is called to him out. away from the noise, what is _ committee is called to him out. away from the noise, what is the _ committee is called to him out. away from the noise, what is the best way to view it, standards, the way british democracy works, parliamentary committees? i british democracy works, parliamentary committees? i think the most important _ parliamentary committees? i think the most important element - parliamentary committees? i think the most important element of. parliamentary committees? i think| the most important element of this amongst all the noise is that this is a verdict from a company with the majority of tory mps on behaviour of a prime minister during arguably the biggest national emergency since 1945. and there are lessons in relation to the nature of that and out was dealt with and also figure could rise to the top of british politics a moment of national emergency. there are many in terms of democracy itself, reflecting on this fall, he has on left been held to account but by deciding to run for it and issued the slightly wild
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statement which are not forensic and just accuse the committee of being hopeless and useless and unfair, he hasn't really answered any of the questions raised by the report but he has suffered. he is no longer an mp, let alone a prime minister. and mp, let alone a prime minister. and we have to — mp, let alone a prime minister. and we have to vote _ mp, let alone a prime minister. and we have to vote on monday and only a handful of borisjohnson supporters openly supporting up to the courts today. how problematic or otherwise do you think this is going to be come monday considering the conservative party of rishi sunak? rishi sunak as a decision to make whether he even votes. it is not a three line whip, and any from the tory site probably won't turn up. but it will be another moment that may be a significant moment in a way to this report is, this stance, he might not like it, a bit from knows they were onto something else he would've challenged in a different
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way. but it stands forever. as a verdict on someone who rose to the top at the time of great national challenge and this entire sequence is the biggest moment and it overwhelms whatever happens on monday in terms of significance. you talkin: monday in terms of significance. you talking about the fall, this is the manner delivered brexit, a big conservative majority and yet, scandal enveloped in and you study prime ministers of the past through hundreds of years and where do you think he stands historically and also the narrative that i've heard is can borisjohnson come back even from this, is a time to put that to bed, it's over, isn't it? ugly, kicking, screaming, extended? you can never write _ kicking, screaming, extended? wm. can never write people off in today's politics but i would guess so. in terms of the fall, there have
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been other dramatic prime ministerial forces but it's usually preceded by a longer period and examples of weight as well and i think with torments and is the brexit thing we could argue forever about whether it is a triumph or not but he had a great one in december 2019 i think that's what torments them. he thinks he's been kicked out by unfair forces. they haven't been unfair. but it is an extraordinarily different run and he had been a huge figure in british politics for decades and the substantial one. thank you so much forjoining us on today's programme.
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stories making headlines in the uk. child killer has been granted parole and was released from prison, he was chilled for life or raping and strangling 215—year—old girls in leicestershire in 1983 in 1986. the 63—year—old was released in 2021 before being arrested and sent back to prison two months later. the mother has been chilled for 27 years of the manslaughter of her nine—year—old sun and child cruelty charges. the partner was given a life sentence for murder after he died in 2021 after being deliberately submerged in accord beth, the suffering they inflicted on him was sadistic. injunior doctors in england are continuing their strike over pay conditions and representing doctors and medical students say a 5% pay offer is not enoughin students say a 5% pay offer is not enough in the health sector since they'll be willing to resume talks if the structure paused and removed
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from the position which they said was unreasonable. let's return to that important story increase because three days of national mourning have been declared after the 78 migrants died on the boat there were an capsulized and more than edge of or rescued after the fishing vessel sink of the southern coast. but see if martin team at bbc verify. it was starting to get more information as to how this tragedy unfolded. we know they're up to 750 people on board the boat when it slunk off the coast of greece and the mediterranean sea. it is believed they left the port and was making its way to italy. we know this location because of a charity that helps migrants see reporting that helps migrants see reporting that a migrated call the co—ordinates and bbc verify been looking at this in greater detail, joshis looking at this in greater detail, josh is with us and posting part of
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bbc verify and what can you tell us? we cannot track the exact location because this didn't have a track on board but we have been looking at the charity and reducing the number of charities converging on the area of charities converging on the area of this migrant boat advocacy to ships here, the lucky sailor and tracking them, you can see a particular area for several hours with the boat came into this area. with this but would've sunk, there are two different versions of events as to how this unfolded and one from the greek coastguard and the charity and alarm fund, can you tell us what you found? the and alarm fund, can you tell us what you found?— you found? the story gets tricky, around eight _ you found? the story gets tricky, around eight a:m., _ you found? the story gets tricky, around eight a:m. , authorities i you found? the story gets tricky, l around eight a:m. , authorities said around eight a:m., authorities said they received a call from natalie saying that the boat was in the waters and several hours later, making contact with the migrant boat and they did not request any help
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and they did not request any help and after subsequent phone calls, the coastguard said there was no need for help but on the side of this is the charity that had several distress calls from the boat asking for assistance.— distress calls from the boat asking for assistance. techniques up to the middle of the _ for assistance. techniques up to the middle of the afternoon, _ for assistance. techniques up to the middle of the afternoon, there i for assistance. techniques up to the middle of the afternoon, there are l middle of the afternoon, there are still seven hours, what happens next bushel of obvious distress calls were coming in, some were searching the area. bud were coming in, some were searching the area. �* , ., ., ., ., the area. and trying to get food and water to the — the area. and trying to get food and water to the migrants _ the area. and trying to get food and water to the migrants there. - the area. and trying to get food and water to the migrants there. after l water to the migrants there. after several hours, there was a coastguard vessel watching everything from afar in this vessel was around 1040, had report from one of the commercial vessel sink there was an engine failure on the migrant boat and shortly afterwards, a report the migrant boat capsized. and so we know so far and will bring you more updates when we get them.
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let's talk to the chair of the eu committee in the home affairs. thank you so much for being here in the programme in terms of what is been happening. your headline initial thoughts? it’s happening. your headline initial thou~hts? v ., happening. your headline initial thou~hts? ., , �* thoughts? it's a tragedy. and we know so far. _ thoughts? it's a tragedy. and we know so far, although _ thoughts? it's a tragedy. and we know so far, although one i thoughts? it's a tragedy. and we know so far, although one thing | thoughts? it's a tragedy. and we | know so far, although one thing is clear, we have to change the rules on migration. it is difficult for those putting their lives on the line for loved ones there are no legal pathways that are available to
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them and going through the borders on the shore of european soil because it's the only chance they have. and for this, it will be... you been pressing the case for legal pathways in them to have to leave this interview only because the sound quality is very difficult to actually make out clearly what you're saying, apologies for that but we're going to come away from that and hopefully will be able to reestablish that line but while we do, let's hearfrom demetri. a red cross volunteer and he been describing but it's been involved in the rescue of today. let's hear what he was saying just a little earlier.
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about the pain on the face of the survivors, and many have been on this boat for days and the lack of water and other basic supplies during the trip and unfortunately, they end up with this wreck. it was a tremendous feeling to see all these people who survived and seeking family and friends of their beloved persons around, having no answers over what really happened. that must be very distressing to witness that in terms of the conversations you've had, what if people sing to you the sorts of numbers that were on this boat, roughly? figs numbers that were on this boat, rou~hl ? �* , numbers that were on this boat, rou~hl? ,. ,,
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roughly? as we discussed with survivors. _ roughly? as we discussed with survivors, similar _ roughly? as we discussed with survivors, similar to _ roughly? as we discussed with survivors, similar to the i roughly? as we discussed with i survivors, similar to the numbers you havejust mentioned, the boat was filled with may be more than 700 people. most of them, most likely had very little chances to survive in many since the accident. four those involved in the rescue efforts are still going on but very little of finding anybody else but we'll keepin of finding anybody else but we'll keep in mind that story when we return to it. lloyd alston has announced new funding after a two—day meeting of defence in brussels and expecting to have a timetable for them to flay western jets including have a timetable for them to flay westernjets including f—16s and that due to take place this summer at a number of locations but there's
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still no decisions on whether ukraine will be provided with those jets or when. but still a little more of what the defence secretary was saying. more of what the defence secretary was sa inc. . ., more of what the defence secretary wassa inc. ,, ., , more of what the defence secretary was saying-— was saying. several countries have ste ed was saying. several countries have stepped op — was saying. several countries have stepped up today _ was saying. several countries have stepped up today with _ was saying. several countries have stepped up today with new - stepped up today with new commitments for ukraine. committed another $500 million package to support ukraine and i will include more than 20 critical air defence ministers to help ukraine skies and help protect ukraine skies. in the uk, denmark and the netherlands, a contributing funding for additional air defence, initials for ukraine. italy also announced highly critical capabilities that meet ukraine hospitals most urgent needs to defend itself. several allies are beginning to think about supporting ukraine for the long term. just a little earlier, _ ukraine for the long term. just a little earlier, i— ukraine for the long term. just a little earlier, i spoke _ ukraine for the long term. just a little earlier, i spoke in - little earlier, i spoke in california, a former native deputy general and whether she believed
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that the focus was on the right things. i that the focus was on the right thin . s. ~ , that the focus was on the right thins. ~ , ., , ., , things. i think it is moved steadily in the right _ things. i think it is moved steadily in the right direction _ things. i think it is moved steadily in the right direction and - things. i think it is moved steadily in the right direction and they i in the right direction and they emphasise the need to continue to supply ukraine with air defence capabilities and systems which has been all important and really countering these attacks that russia has taken on civilian infrastructure, including this week, attacking president zelensky�*s hometown twice attacking both civilian but also some industrial facilities. so, the emphasis on air defence is quite right in an important move that the alliance has been taking. like important move that the alliance has been taking-— been taking. like not 'ust get on with the r-re h been taking. like notjust get on with the f-16 decision? - been taking. like notjust get on with the f-16 decision? i - been taking. like notjust get on with the f-16 decision? i think. been taking. like notjust get on i with the f-16 decision? i think the decision to — with the f-16 decision? i think the decision to change _ with the f-16 decision? i think the decision to change the _ with the f-16 decision? i think the decision to change the pilots i with the f-16 decision? i think the decision to change the pilots is i decision to change the pilots is indicative that the decision is coming and f—16s are very capable aircraft very good aircraft read defence and spare ones and they are widely dispersed in nato but they
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are very much required for nato deterrence and defence purposes and i think it's just a matter of finding where there are spare f—16s be provided but the fact that the pilots will be trained in ukrainians will be trained, it will be done this summer in the near term which is a very important indicator that the plans will be found. the counteroffensive, _ the plans will be found. the counteroffensive, what is your assessment? i counteroffensive, what is your assessment?— counteroffensive, what is your assessment? . ~ ., ., , ., assessment? i heard ukrainians of said they have _ assessment? i heard ukrainians of said they have a _ assessment? i heard ukrainians of said they have a square _ assessment? i heard ukrainians of| said they have a square kilometres it doesn't sound like much but compared to the grinding battle over the spring, i think they have a bit of momentum now and i hope they can carry it forward. of course, they have a lot of problems to deal with, including the horrible flooding from the destruction in the past ten days mr do not know exactly who was
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responsible and how that happened. i continue to believe the russian sudden interest in flooding territory so ukrainian advanced in southeastern ukraine would be complicated stop by the stock of our russian responses and title responses. the event that what most people pointing their finger at moscow weekly references to nuclear weapons and talked to an interview on bbc six to nine months ago and he raised my eyebrows because you talked about the possibility of vladimir putin using a nuclear weapon or testing a nuclear weapon of the sea, over the desert as opposed to on the battlefield. even the thing that is a possibility? six to nine months, they are talking a lot more notjust about nuclear testing but about a nuclear demonstration strike over the black sleep perhaps were speculating what that might look like and frankly,
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those kinds of threats and faded a bit but there is a continuing undercurrent of threatening language and nuclear sabre rattling very troubling article saying that they were threatening nato with nuclear annihilation. sabre rattling is still going on with stuff to look carefully at what russia is doing much with preparations of the nuclear test site because let me putin is threatened nuclear testing only if united states tests but i think we need to watch carefully at the test site and much carefully the operational nuclear forces to make sure that no changes are occurring so far, there's been no upswings in readiness and the russian nuclear forces. ., , ., ., ., ., ., forces. former general of nato. now, here on verify. _ forces. former general of nato. now, here on verify, we're _
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forces. former general of nato. now, here on verify, we're going _ forces. former general of nato. now, here on verify, we're going to - forces. former general of nato. now, here on verify, we're going to turn i here on verify, we're going to turn our attentions to nottingham where about to see the start of another vigil watching the university but the city centre where you can see large crowds gathering for the start of the vigil which will start in about five minutes' time and we will hear from the mayor, about five minutes' time and we will hearfrom the mayor, the about five minutes' time and we will hear from the mayor, the council faith leaders as well as the head teacher from the school where at the 65—year—old who died in one of the three people who died in those dreadful attacks on tuesday. the head teacher of so many students there, paying their respects after there, paying their respects after the death of barnaby whether and grace 0'malley—kumar. absolutely packed in the market square as they wait for those proceedings to start you see every vantage point being
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taken in so many people there in that city still reeling from tuesday's events. will return on bbc news the next several hours. do not go away. was a bit of a change on the way as we head towards the weekend. the changes to starting to take shape in the atlantic and the swell of cloud an area of low pressure towards her shorts in this cloud started to approach the southwest of england as we head through the night that could introduce one or two showers in the thunderstorm and elsewhere, drive with clear skies, wanted or two missed patches individually across parts of the distance, the north east england indicate trouble or below are the most temperature suggest. in the friday, find state for most of us in this clearing but,
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we will see showers and thunderstorms across western ports and supposed england and wales, northern ireland up across the irish sea and across the isle of at northwest england and south of scotland. where you see sunshine again, it's going to feel very warm at 27 and 20 degrees and a bit warmer than it has been as of late and into the weekend, the city of low pressure the swirl of cloud earlier is starting to approach us from the west, the increasing chance of rain and heavy thunder downpours but with some spells of warm sunshine in between. 0n but with some spells of warm sunshine in between. on saturday, most of the showers are likely to be out towards the west and low pressure and more dry weather and sunshine although some low cloud will linger close to the coast of norfolk and suffolk. 25 degrees quite easily and encrypted warmer
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than that. and at the sunday, the chance of showers and thunderstorms may become a little bit more widespread, particularly down towards the south of the uk we could see more organise heavy thunder rain later in the day. temperatures widely up into the low to mid 20s celsius. it looks like we could see an areas under the rain driving its way northwards across the uk as we had monday, low pressure will be very much in charge of the scene. some showers around comes in thunderstorms stays quite showering to the fruits of the week and maybe try later in remaining relatively warm. dry later in remaining
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relatively warm.
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welcome to bbc news. if you're just joining us we will spend the next half in nottingham. in the next few minutes of vigil is gonna start. it's being held in the old market square in the city in the memory of three people who died the attack in that city earlier this week. barnaby webber, grace 0'malley—kumar and ian coates lost their lives on tuesday. the lord mayor, local dignitaries and representatives from faith communities will lead a minute's silence. let me show you the pictures from let me show you the pictures from the the market square because absolutely packedit the market square because absolutely packed it is with so many people there turning out. we have

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