welcome back to the context. borisjohnson deliberately and repeatedly misled mps and should, had he not already resigned, be suspended for 90 days. that's the findings of a damning report into the former prime minister. we will have all the detail and the reaction to that in just a second with our panel — peter walker, the acting deputy political editor for the guardian, and the republican political strategist maura gillespie. also in the programme tonight, we will bring you the latest on the migrant disaster off the coast of southern greece. at least 78 people have died, but numbers could continue to rise, with survivors sugesting as many as 750 people may have been packed on to the boat, with reports of 100 children in the hold. and nato defence leaders meet to discuss ongoing support for ukraine, including a training timeline for the vital f16 fighterjets kyiv has been pleading for to help

with their counteroffensive. but first, we are going to focus in on a monumental day here in uk politics — the release of the parliamentary report into boris johnson. the report by the privileges committee found that the former prime minister deliberately and repeatedly misled mps about parties at 10 downing street when coronavirus lockdown measures were in place. the committee says it would have recommended suspending him as an mp for 90 days if he hadn't already stood down from the role after he saw the report last week. it also recommends the former pm should not get a pass which allows ex—mps to access parliament after they leave. mrjohnson has admitted his statements about the parties misled parliament, but denied doing so intentionally or recklessly, saying, "this is rubbish. this is a lie." we will have some reaction to the report shortly, but first, here's our political editor chris mason. so many chapters of borisjohnson�*s

life have his relationship with the truth running straight through them. today, the latest chapter. a committee of his peers throwing the book at him. was he honest about what went on in downing street during the very covid restrictions he'd imposed on the rest of us? all guidance was followed completely during number 10. really? there was no party, and that no covid rules were broken. a senior civil servant, sue gray, investigated. so, too, the police. today, another page turns. the conclusion — devastating for mrjohnson. let's be blunt, this report concludes that he lied. it says he deliberately misled mps, he deliberately misled the committee. he breached their confidence by saying out loud what was

in their report before they did and that he was complicit in a campaign of abuse and attempted intimidation of the committee. look at what else the committee had to say. it takes aim at "the frequency with which he closed his mind to the truth". and it said some of mrjohnson�*s "denials and explanations were so disingenuous" that they were "deliberate attempts to mislead". is this the end, mrjohnson? we're shouting at borisjohnson because he said no to an interview. he put out a written statement instead claiming the report is "rubbish, a lie, deranged, absurd and complete tripe". have you run out of road? and he said...

you've been there and seen it with your own eyes. harriet harman is the labour mp who chaired this investigation. he claims she was prejudiced against him from the outset given things she had previously said. the report says its members were informed by the facts. jacob rees—mogg was knighted by borisjohnson and served in his cabinet. what did he make of the report? well, i think it's overbaked. i think they want to find the worst at every possible opportunity, and i think it shows a degree of vindictiveness that does not work to the committee's favour or advantage. is this the end for borisjohnson, no way back from this? there's easily a way back. because the great virtue of our system is that parliament can chuck you out, can chuck you out again and suspend you, but if voters send you back, then back you come. the report today came out at 9am, but the prime minister managed to find himself in front of the cameras earlier than that.

wanting to look like he's getting on with the job on an immigration raid in west london. you're talking about a report that i haven't seen and no one else has seen. it wouldn't right to comment on it in advance of it coming out and being published. so he didn't fancy saying very much, but little tongue tie from the opposition parties today. borisjohnson is not only a lawbreaker, but a liar. | he's not fit for public office, and he's disgraced himself. and continues to act like a pound shop trump in the way _ in which he tries to discredit - anybody who criticises his actions. he's built his entire career as a politician on being very shady with the truth, and what the committee has found is that he purposely lied to parliament as prime minister. today, the final page turns on the former prime minister, covid rule—breaking and the truth. the big question is whether the book is now closed for good on boris johnson.

chris mason, bbc news, at westminster. let me turn to my guests that are here. let me begin with you, peter. i'm going to after the same question chris was asking some of it is. is this the end for borisjohnson politically? this the end for boris johnson politically?— this the end for boris johnson oliticall ? ., , ., ., politically? people have said that uuite a politically? people have said that quite a few _ politically? people have said that quite a few times. _ politically? people have said that quite a few times. he's _ politically? people have said that quite a few times. he's been - politically? people have said that - quite a few times. he's been counted out a number of times. it's very difficult to see the way back from this but with the caveat that my political predictions are usually wrong. i would say he will be back. you could potentially foresee a way in which the conservatives lose the general election quite badly and there is a drop of maybe 200 mps who think they have nothing to lose, they might want to call them back. but all things being equal, lesser things would end a blue career than this. borisjohnson tends to defy the rules and to fight physical gravity but it's really tough to find a way back from this. the

lanauuae find a way back from this. the language i _ find a way back from this. the language i thought was very interesting. let me turn to you, moura, on that. angela rayner was instead criticising borisjohnson, calling him a pound store donald trump. do you see parallels with the language that was used in the united states? i language that was used in the united states? . . , language that was used in the united states? . ., , ., ., ~ states? i certainly do, and i think we hurt both _ states? i certainly do, and i think we hurt both the _ states? i certainly do, and i think we hurt both the prime _ states? i certainly do, and i think we hurt both the prime minister. states? i certainly do, and i think i we hurt both the prime minister and we hurt both the prime minister and we have heard from her president trump _ we have heard from her president trump deny things and not giving information after clarifying that or providing — information after clarifying that or providing any details as to how it was a _ providing any details as to how it was a lie — providing any details as to how it was a lie. sometimes it's hard to actually— was a lie. sometimes it's hard to actually fact check in real time and they are _ actually fact check in real time and they are not being held accountable so we _ they are not being held accountable so we need to say it's not true or he could — so we need to say it's not true or he could say he did not have a party but the _ he could say he did not have a party but the record shows otherwise. and ithihk— but the record shows otherwise. and ithihk he _ but the record shows otherwise. and i think he will be adamant that he did not— i think he will be adamant that he did not do— i think he will be adamant that he did not do anything wrong. butl did not do anything wrong. but i su ose did not do anything wrong. but i sunpose with — did not do anything wrong. but i suppose with donald _ did not do anything wrong. emit i suppose with donald trump and those who supported him, you know, whether he was intentional about something

or not, it did not waver their loyalty. going back to you, peter, do you think this is a different set of, what would i say it, criteria within the united kingdom when it comes to saying i did not intentionally mislead? in terms of... it's interesting _ intentionally mislead? in terms of... it's interesting because i intentionally mislead? in termsl of... it's interesting because the report, which is 108 pages long, goesin report, which is 108 pages long, goes in the quite a lot of details as to why this actually matters, and they stress that mps are not just there in parliament to represent their people but there is to hold ministers to account and scrutinise legislation and the government's work. and it makes a point that if the prime minister let alone any minister stands at the despatch box and tells them things that they cannot properly do theirjob, they stress that is a very important thing that you have this strange kind of cultural thing or it's always been in british parliament

you cannot say someone lies. you cannot actually stand up in parliament as say a fellow mp is a liar, so you had a strange language in the report of saying misled, but the word lying is not used in any of the word lying is not used in any of the 3000 words. that's left up to others to say. it the 3000 words. that's left up to others to say-— others to say. it is interesting that word _ others to say. it is interesting that word liar _ others to say. it is interesting that word liar as _ others to say. it is interesting that word liar as i _ others to say. it is interesting that word liar as i did - others to say. it is interesting that word liar as i did hear - others to say. it is interesting - that word liar as i did hear another term of light tell as opposed to the person being a liar so to speak. let's do about the politics of this. do you think labour has capitalised enough on these missteps by the conservative party? peter, i'll begin with you. i conservative party? peter, i'll begin with you.— begin with you. i don't think the 've begin with you. i don't think they've really _ begin with you. i don't think they've really needed - begin with you. i don't think they've really needed to. i begin with you. i don't think. they've really needed to. there begin with you. i don't think- they've really needed to. there is obviously a lead for labour to present their own positive government programme, but with stuff like this, not only when you have the unparalleled position of a former prime minister being chucked out of the house of commons for telling lies effectively and also you have this position where you have a rumble of conservative mps

terry lumps out of each other, if you are the opposition party, the best and to do is stand there and let them do what they do it in a few days' time quebec and say that was not great, was a? here is what can do. labour have got some policy ideas going on. they are launching their energy policy in the next couple of days, and they cannotjust sit this out. but when this is so damaging for the conservative party, all they can really do is say look at this whenever rishi sunak or a minister stands up and announces and point out this is the same party and same government. let point out this is the same party and same government.— point out this is the same party and same government. let me turn to you because there — same government. let me turn to you because there is _ same government. let me turn to you because there is infighting _ same government. let me turn to you because there is infighting at - same government. let me turn to you because there is infighting at the - because there is infighting at the moment within the conservative party. how damaging do you think thatis party. how damaging do you think that is because i think the same thing we have seen in the replica party and if continues now as it begins to heat up for a another presidential election even though that's year away?— presidential election even though that's year away? does not feel like it's a ear that's year away? does not feel like it's a year away. _ that's year away? does not feel like it's a year away, it _ that's year away? does not feel like it's a year away, it feels _ that's year away? does not feel like it's a year away, it feels like - that's year away? does not feel like it's a year away, it feels like it's - it's a year away, it feels like it's more _ it's a year away, it feels like it's more imminent, but kind of what peter was — more imminent, but kind of what peter was saying. the important part

here is— peter was saying. the important part here is to _ peter was saying. the important part here is to highlight to voters, to constituents, the people who are wondering why does this matter to me what impact does it have on me, and i what impact does it have on me, and ithihk that _ what impact does it have on me, and i think that will be an important part both — i think that will be an important part both here with things that happened with former president trump and to— happened with former president trump and to try— happened with former president trump and to try and explain to his base that supporting him are continuing to support — that supporting him are continuing to support him is detrimental to our future _ to support him is detrimental to our future and _ to support him is detrimental to our future and does not bode well for us as we _ future and does not bode well for us as we look_ future and does not bode well for us as we look ahead to the next election _ as we look ahead to the next election. and i was say in the case of boris _ election. and i was say in the case of borisjohnson, the impacts that it had _ of borisjohnson, the impacts that it had on_ of borisjohnson, the impacts that it had on the people and his mistakes _ it had on the people and his mistakes and what he did and highlighting that and why it should matter— highlighting that and why it should matter to them at home. we highlighting that and why it should matter to them at home.— matter to them at home. we will be talkin: matter to them at home. we will be talking about _ matter to them at home. we will be talking about the _ matter to them at home. we will be talking about the covid-19 _ matter to them at home. we will be talking about the covid-19 inquiry i talking about the covid—19 inquiry later in the programme but we will get into some of those aspects as well because we are beginning to hear of course people that are speaking out with their experience of what they want an investigation into what happened during covid—19 and who follow the rules and who did not. so some of these stories are linked but i do want to turn to

another story now. three days of national mourning have been declared in greece after at least 78 migrants died when the boat they were in capsized. more than 100 were rescued after the fishing vessel sank off the coast, but survivors have suggested as many as 750 people may have been on board, including children. the ship was thought to have been travelling from tobruk in libya to italy when it capsized around 80 kilometres south—west of greece. the bodies of some of those drowned have been brought to the port of kalamata, where the survivors are also being treated. dr yael schacher is the director for the americas and europe at refugees international. good to have you with us, thank you forjoining us on the programme. the magnitude of this disaster does seem larger than others we have seen in the mediterranean. how do you understand that these tragedies keep happening?

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union right now, which is solely focused on limiting access to i union right now, which is solely- focused on limiting access to asylum and cracking — focused on limiting access to asylum and cracking down— focused on limiting access to asylum and cracking down on— focused on limiting access to asylum and cracking down on smuggling. - focused on limiting access to asylum i and cracking down on smuggling. and the response — and cracking down on smuggling. and the response by— and cracking down on smuggling. and the response by the _ and cracking down on smuggling. and the response by the eu _ and cracking down on smuggling. andj the response by the eu commissioner today was— the response by the eu commissioner today was that — the response by the eu commissioner today was that she _ the response by the eu commissioner today was that she referred _ the response by the eu commissioner today was that she referred to - the response by the eu commissioner today was that she referred to a - today was that she referred to a moral— today was that she referred to a moral duty— today was that she referred to a moral duty to _ today was that she referred to a moral duty to crack _ today was that she referred to a moral duty to crack down - today was that she referred to a moral duty to crack down on - moral duty to crack down on criminals _ moral duty to crack down on criminals rather— moral duty to crack down on criminals rather than - moral duty to crack down on criminals rather than to - moral duty to crack down on i criminals rather than to provide refuge — criminals rather than to provide refuge and _ criminals rather than to provide refuge and to _ criminals rather than to provide refuge and to create _ criminals rather than to provide refuge and to create large - criminals rather than to provide refuge and to create large and i criminals rather than to provide - refuge and to create large and safe migration— refuge and to create large and safe migration pathways _ refuge and to create large and safe migration pathways to _ refuge and to create large and safe migration pathways to europe - refuge and to create large and safe migration pathways to europe for. migration pathways to europe for some _ migration pathways to europe for some of— migration pathways to europe for some of the _ migration pathways to europe for some of the syrians _ migration pathways to europe for some of the syrians and - migration pathways to europe for some of the syrians and afghans| migration pathways to europe for- some of the syrians and afghans who died on _ some of the syrians and afghans who died on this— some of the syrians and afghans who died on this ship. _ some of the syrians and afghans who died on this ship. some _ some of the syrians and afghans who died on this ship. some of— some of the syrians and afghans who died on this ship. some of them - some of the syrians and afghans who died on this ship. some of them hadl died on this ship. some of them had family— died on this ship. some of them had family in_ died on this ship. some of them had family in the — died on this ship. some of them had family in the elk _ died on this ship. some of them had family in the eu. these _ died on this ship. some of them had family in the eu. these folks are - family in the eu. these folks are going _ family in the eu. these folks are going to — family in the eu. these folks are going to try— family in the eu. these folks are going to try to _ family in the eu. these folks are going to try to come, _ family in the eu. these folks are going to try to come, and - family in the eu. these folks are going to try to come, and therel going to try to come, and there needs— going to try to come, and there needs to — going to try to come, and there needs to he _ going to try to come, and there needs to be say _ going to try to come, and there needs to be say pathways - going to try to come, and there needs to be say pathways for. going to try to come, and there - needs to be say pathways for them. the policy— needs to be say pathways for them. the policy responses _ needs to be say pathways for them. the policy responses by _ needs to be say pathways for them. the policy responses by the - needs to be say pathways for them. i the policy responses by the european union _ the policy responses by the european union have _ the policy responses by the european union have been— the policy responses by the european union have been inadequate. - the policy responses by the european union have been inadequate. of- union have been inadequate. riiyi' course union have been inadequate. course some would say with union have been inadequate.“ course some would say with many of the boats that come across, there is a lot of economic migrants and a lot particularly from north africa and could've initially been the case in this boat as well but we don't know that yet. is there more that could be done in libya, for example, or

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investigation into a crack down on i migrants in eastern libya supported by italy— migrants in eastern libya supported by italy most — migrants in eastern libya supported by italy most recently, _ migrants in eastern libya supported by italy most recently, whether - migrants in eastern libya supported by italy most recently, whether or. by italy most recently, whether or not such _ by italy most recently, whether or not such a — by italy most recently, whether or not such a crackdown _ by italy most recently, whether or not such a crackdown may - by italy most recently, whether or not such a crackdown may have i not such a crackdown may have actually — not such a crackdown may have actually led _ not such a crackdown may have actually led people _ not such a crackdown may have actually led people on- not such a crackdown may have actually led people on the - not such a crackdown may have actually led people on the boat| actually led people on the boat to see the kind — actually led people on the boat to see the kind of— actually led people on the boat to see the kind of escape _ actually led people on the boat to see the kind of escape libya. - actually led people on the boat to see the kind of escape libya. andj actually led people on the boat toi see the kind of escape libya. and i also would — see the kind of escape libya. and i also would want _ see the kind of escape libya. and i also would want to _ see the kind of escape libya. and i also would want to know, - see the kind of escape libya. and i also would want to know, there - see the kind of escape libya. and i| also would want to know, there has been _ also would want to know, there has been some — also would want to know, there has been some discussion _ also would want to know, there has been some discussion about - also would want to know, there has. been some discussion about whether or not— been some discussion about whether or not the _ been some discussion about whether or not the people _ been some discussion about whether or not the people on _ been some discussion about whether or not the people on the _ been some discussion about whether or not the people on the boat - been some discussion about whether or not the people on the boat turned | or not the people on the boat turned down _ or not the people on the boat turned down aid _ or not the people on the boat turned down aid from — or not the people on the boat turned down aid from the _ or not the people on the boat turned down aid from the greek— or not the people on the boat turned | down aid from the greek coastguard, and if— down aid from the greek coastguard, and if they— down aid from the greek coastguard, and ifthey did — down aid from the greek coastguard, and if they did in _ down aid from the greek coastguard, and if they did in fact _ down aid from the greek coastguard, and if they did in fact do _ down aid from the greek coastguard, and if they did in fact do that, - down aid from the greek coastguard, and if they did in fact do that, i - and if they did in fact do that, i am interested in— and if they did in fact do that, i am interested in knowing - and if they did in fact do that, i am interested in knowing if- and if they did in fact do that, i i am interested in knowing if that's because they _ am interested in knowing if that's because they were _ am interested in knowing if that's because they were afraid - am interested in knowing if that's because they were afraid the - am interested in knowing if that's i because they were afraid the greek coastguard — because they were afraid the greek coastguard would _ because they were afraid the greek coastguard would return _ because they were afraid the greek coastguard would return them - because they were afraid the greek coastguard would return them to i coastguard would return them to libya~ _ coastguard would return them to libya~ some _ coastguard would return them to libya. some of— coastguard would return them to libya. some of the _ coastguard would return them to libya. some of the interesting i libya. some of the interesting things— libya. some of the interesting things that _ libya. some of the interesting things that are _ libya. some of the interesting things that are happening - libya. some of the interesting i things that are happening around asylum _ things that are happening around asylum policy— things that are happening around asylum policy in— things that are happening around asylum policy in europe - things that are happening around asylum policy in europe involve l

asylum policy in europe involve expanding _ asylum policy in europe involve expanding the _ asylum policy in europe involve expanding the notion _ asylum policy in europe involve expanding the notion of - asylum policy in europe involve expanding the notion of safe i asylum policy in europe involve i expanding the notion of safe third countries — expanding the notion of safe third countries and _ expanding the notion of safe third countries and possibly— expanding the notion of safe third countries and possibly sending. countries and possibly sending people — countries and possibly sending people back— countries and possibly sending people back to— countries and possibly sending people back to libya _ countries and possibly sending people back to libya where - countries and possibly sending. people back to libya where than allowing — people back to libya where than allowing them _ people back to libya where than allowing them to seek— people back to libya where than allowing them to seek asylum i people back to libya where than| allowing them to seek asylum in europe, — allowing them to seek asylum in europe, at— allowing them to seek asylum in europe. at the _ allowing them to seek asylum in europe, at the it's _ allowing them to seek asylum in europe, at the it's those - allowing them to seek asylum in europe, at the it's those kinds i allowing them to seek asylum in| europe, at the it's those kinds of policies — europe, at the it's those kinds of policies that _ europe, at the it's those kinds of policies that will— europe, at the it's those kinds of policies that will be _ europe, at the it's those kinds of policies that will be extremely. policies that will be extremely counterproductive _ policies that will be extremely counterproductive and - policies that will be extremely counterproductive and lead i policies that will be extremely counterproductive and lead to| policies that will be extremely- counterproductive and lead to more tragedies _ counterproductive and lead to more tragedies like — counterproductive and lead to more tragedies like this. _ counterproductive and lead to more tragedies like this. i _ counterproductive and lead to more tragedies like this. i had _ counterproductive and lead to more tragedies like this.— tragedies like this. i had not heard that. tragedies like this. i had not heard that- that's _ tragedies like this. i had not heard that. that's interesting _ tragedies like this. i had not heard that. that's interesting about - tragedies like this. i had not heard| that. that's interesting about going back to libya as i thought it might be they'll be taken to greece that many people who are fleeing whether migrants or refugees don't want to sometimes be housed in greece either because it can be very difficult to leave. let's turn to this one, peter. it's something ifeel over the past 10—12 years i've been covering it that there has not been any resolution no matter how many tragedies happen. it’s any resolution no matter how many tragedies happen.— tragedies happen. it's an incredibly complicated _ tragedies happen. it's an incredibly complicated problem, _ tragedies happen. it's an incredibly complicated problem, and - tragedies happen. it's an incredibly| complicated problem, and obviously no single government or even any single intergovernmental board can actually solve it. because there are millions of people who fall are very good reason to go somewhere and the worry is perhaps that the debate has

become in the uk in particular which mirrors the water eu one, getting bogged down in the idea of how we stop the people smuggling games and sometimes the narrative almost makes it sound like these people are being forced onto boats. and obviously people smuggling gangs do terribly awful things like putting people in the hold area of about, but it does not necessarily help matters so much. the uk debate with the markets coming across the english channel has two an extent, we have had fewer tragedies in this part because obviously it's a much smaller area of cedar cross, but also you have in the uk the rural national lifo institute which has this policy that if any bow is in trouble, they will come to it. it certainly able smugglers will be saying to the migrants this is what you need basically if you get into trouble, do except brett help for the rich because they were taken to the uk sure. and perhaps as a way to prevent tragedies like this, on top of the other things i need to be done, perhaps that is something that

needs to be a widespread policy of people will be rescued and there will be taken to where they need to go. will be taken to where they need to no. r will be taken to where they need to i o, r , ., will be taken to where they need to o. r , ., ., go. and with this, what we are heanna go. and with this, what we are hearing is _ go. and with this, what we are hearing is that _ go. and with this, what we are hearing is that this _ go. and with this, what we are hearing is that this is - go. and with this, what we are hearing is that this is from - go. and with this, what we are hearing is that this is from the | hearing is that this is from the greek authorities, they say that their help was refused. and that in fact, there was also a boat sent out we believe that was going to give some help as in water and food but of course as we know the boat capsized and so many people have appeared to have died from that tragedy. let me turn to you, mara, because immigration, migration has meant such a hot issue in the united states. do you think there has been any change in the tenor of the debate since donald trump is not resident? i debate since donald trump is not resident? ., ., ,, ., resident? i do... talking to me? partl it resident? i do... talking to me? partly it is _ resident? i do... talking to me? partly it is because _ resident? i do... talking to me? partly it is because the - resident? i do... talking to me? partly it is because the joe - resident? i do... talking to me? | partly it is because the joe biden administration _ partly it is because the joe biden

administration has _ partly it is because the joe biden administration has wanted - partly it is because the joe biden administration has wanted to - partly it is because the joe biden - administration has wanted to manage migration— administration has wanted to manage migration and — administration has wanted to manage migration and create _ administration has wanted to manage migration and create pathways - administration has wanted to manage migration and create pathways to - administration has wanted to manage migration and create pathways to the| migration and create pathways to the united _ migration and create pathways to the united states — migration and create pathways to the united states. also limit— migration and create pathways to the united states. also limit access - migration and create pathways to the united states. also limit access to i united states. also limit access to a summa — united states. also limit access to a summa but _ united states. also limit access to a summa but also _ united states. also limit access to a summa but also this _ united states. also limit access to a summa but also this idea - united states. also limit access to a summa but also this idea of- a summa but also this idea of creating — a summa but also this idea of creating capacious_ a summa but also this idea of creating capacious pathways i a summa but also this idea of. creating capacious pathways for people — creating capacious pathways for people to — creating capacious pathways for people to come _ creating capacious pathways for people to come as _ creating capacious pathways for people to come as dentists - creating capacious pathways for people to come as dentists to l people to come as dentists to turning — people to come as dentists to turning to _ people to come as dentists to turning to smugglers, - people to come as dentists to turning to smugglers, and - people to come as dentists to turning to smugglers, and ii people to come as dentists to i turning to smugglers, and i think that's— turning to smugglers, and i think that's missing _ turning to smugglers, and i think that's missing in— turning to smugglers, and i think that's missing in the _ turning to smugglers, and i think that's missing in the europe - that's missing in the europe conversation, _ that's missing in the europe conversation, where - that's missing in the europe conversation, where as - that's missing in the europe - conversation, where as mentioned there _ conversation, where as mentioned there is— conversation, where as mentioned there is this — conversation, where as mentioned there is this exclusive _ conversation, where as mentioned there is this exclusive focus - conversation, where as mentioned there is this exclusive focus on - there is this exclusive focus on limiting — there is this exclusive focus on limiting access _ there is this exclusive focus on limiting access to _ there is this exclusive focus on limiting access to asylum - there is this exclusive focus on limiting access to asylum and i limiting access to asylum and cracking — limiting access to asylum and cracking down— limiting access to asylum and cracking down on _ limiting access to asylum and cracking down on smugglers. limiting access to asylum and - cracking down on smugglers rather than also _ cracking down on smugglers rather than also creating _ cracking down on smugglers rather than also creating actually - than also creating actually alternative three - than also creating actually alternative three will the i than also creating actually - alternative three will the kind of come to— alternative three will the kind of come to the _ alternative three will the kind of come to the european _ alternative three will the kind of come to the european union. i alternative three will the kind of. come to the european union. and alternative three will the kind of- come to the european union. and so if you _ come to the european union. and so if you only— come to the european union. and so if you only have _ come to the european union. and so if you only have sticks _ come to the european union. and so if you only have sticks push - if you only have sticks push people away, _ if you only have sticks push people away. especially— if you only have sticks push people away, especially if _ if you only have sticks push people away, especially if people - if you only have sticks push people away, especially if people are - away, especially if people are really — away, especially if people are really desperate, _ away, especially if people are really desperate, the - away, especially if people are really desperate, the folks i away, especially if people are really desperate, the folks on away, especially if people are - really desperate, the folks on the ship are _ really desperate, the folks on the ship are not— really desperate, the folks on the ship are not only _ really desperate, the folks on the ship are not only from _ really desperate, the folks on the ship are not only from northern l ship are not only from northern africa, — ship are not only from northern africa, they— ship are not only from northern africa, they were _ ship are not only from northern africa, they were syrians, - ship are not only from northern - africa, they were syrians, afghans, people _ africa, they were syrians, afghans, people will— africa, they were syrians, afghans, people will come _ africa, they were syrians, afghans, people will come and _ africa, they were syrians, afghans, people will come and continue - africa, they were syrians, afghans, people will come and continue to i people will come and continue to come _ people will come and continue to come so— people will come and continue to come so there _ people will come and continue to come. so there must _ people will come and continue to come. so there must be - people will come and continue to come. so there must be ways- people will come and continue to come. so there must be ways for people will come and continue to - come. so there must be ways for them to come _ come. so there must be ways for them to come that _ come. so there must be ways for them to come that don't _ come. so there must be ways for them to come that don't involve _ come. so there must be ways for them to come that don't involve smugglers i to come that don't involve smugglers if we really— to come that don't involve smugglers if we really want _ to come that don't involve smugglers if we really want to _ to come that don't involve smugglers if we really want to get _ to come that don't involve smugglers if we really want to get to _ to come that don't involve smugglers if we really want to get to the - if we really want to get to the bottom — if we really want to get to the bottom of— if we really want to get to the bottom of this _ if we really want to get to the bottom of this and _ if we really want to get to the bottom of this and really - if we really want to get to the i bottom of this and really provide refuge, — bottom of this and really provide refuge, which— bottom of this and really provide refuge, which is— bottom of this and really provide refuge, which is the _ bottom of this and really provide refuge, which is the moral- refuge, which is the moral responsibility— refuge, which is the moral responsibility the - refuge, which is the moral responsibility the eu - refuge, which is the moral responsibility the eu has. i refuge, which is the moral- responsibility the eu has. find refuge, which is the moral responsibility the eu has. and of course that's _ responsibility the eu has. and of course that's the _ responsibility the eu has. and of course that's the nub _ responsibility the eu has. and of course that's the nub that - responsibility the eu has. and of course that's the nub that some | course that's the nub that some people, one who wants stricter immigration for all. and i suppose

really want to differentiate between economic migrants as somebody who is a refugee. sorry, let me turn to you and also that question in the us about how it is at the moment with president biden instead in the white house when it comes to migration. there is certainly a difference in policy _ there is certainly a difference in policy because we saw during the covid-19 — policy because we saw during the covid—19 era, pandemic, we had to change _ covid—19 era, pandemic, we had to change some things to ensure safety for the _ change some things to ensure safety for the whole country. and we are now seeing, — for the whole country. and we are now seeing, you know, a search we have _ now seeing, you know, a search we have seen _ now seeing, you know, a search we have seen a — now seeing, you know, a search we have seen a surge over the past few months _ have seen a surge over the past few months with the southern border and also coming in from canada, surges up also coming in from canada, surges up there _ also coming in from canada, surges up there as — also coming in from canada, surges up there as well. one of the biggest things— up there as well. one of the biggest things obviously talking about humane — things obviously talking about humane migration and talking about refugees— humane migration and talking about refugees and for the us and countries elsewhere that have a certain — countries elsewhere that have a certain number of how many we can bring— certain number of how many we can bring in_ certain number of how many we can bring in and — certain number of how many we can bring in and that's important too, i know— bring in and that's important too, i know the _ bring in and that's important too, i know the congress has worked on as

far as _ know the congress has worked on as far as refugee crises and impacting place _ far as refugee crises and impacting place like — far as refugee crises and impacting place like libya, jordan and lebanon. _ place like libya, jordan and lebanon, and suffer the us and for the difference between donald trump and joe _ the difference between donald trump and joe biden, we the difference between donald trump andjoe biden, we are the difference between donald trump and joe biden, we are sorting that out it seems and were the biggest issues _ out it seems and were the biggest issues obviously in humane migration issues obviously in humane migration is the _ issues obviously in humane migration is the trafficking. we have seen people — is the trafficking. we have seen people selling their whole entire life savings and being left in the desert, — life savings and being left in the desert, being left from coyotes who are just _ desert, being left from coyotes who are just leaving them there. and that is— are just leaving them there. and that is the — are just leaving them there. and that is the hardest thing to kind of grapple _ that is the hardest thing to kind of grapple with. and how we message that. �* , ., , ., ~' grapple with. and how we message that. �* , ., i. ~ �*, that. briefly, do you think it's iioin to that. briefly, do you think it's going to be — that. briefly, do you think it's going to be again _ that. briefly, do you think it's going to be again one - that. briefly, do you think it's going to be again one of - that. briefly, do you think it's| going to be again one of those that. briefly, do you think it's - going to be again one of those wedge issues in the next election cycle? it will continue to come up, especially when you have now 112024 gop contenders for the nomination. thank— gop contenders for the nomination. thank you _ gop contenders for the nomination. thank you so much. it's quite interesting when we talk about immigration and of course it's something that every country is grappling with an interesting also

today going back to borisjohnson that rishi sunak was at an immigration raid instead when he was talking about the privileges report and he had not read it but the backdrop was an immigration raid that was taking place in the uk. i to also think the doctor for speaking to us on the context. us defense secretary lloyd austin has announced new funding and support for ukraine from nato countries. it comes during a two—day meeting of defences ministers in brussels. they are also expected to agree a timetable to train ukrainian pilots to fly western jets, including f—16s. the training is due to take place this summer at a number of locations in europe, but there are still no decisions on whether ukraine will be provided with western jets or when. let's hear more of what austin said. now several countries stepped up today with new commitments for ukraine. canada committed another

$500 million package to support ukraine, and that will include more than 200 critical air defence missiles to help ukraine's skies, help protect ukraine's skies. and the united states, along with the uk, denmark and the netherlands, all contributed funding for additional critical air defence missiles for ukraine. italy also announced its latest tranche of assistance, which includes highly critical capabilities that meet ukraine's most urgent needs to defend itself. and several allies are beginning to think about supporting ukraine for the long—term. let me turn to you, peter. do you think this is significant? i let me turn to you, peter. do you think this is significant?— think this is significant? i think it's interesting _ think this is significant? i think it's interesting in _ think this is significant? i think it's interesting in the _ think this is significant? i think it's interesting in the sense i think this is significant? i think it's interesting in the sense of| think this is significant? i think i it's interesting in the sense of the uk context. this is one of the few areas _ uk context. this is one of the few areas where the debate between the various— areas where the debate between the various parties does not exist really — various parties does not exist really. that if you ask any of the main _ really. that if you ask any of the main political leaders what should we do _ main political leaders what should we do for— main political leaders what should we do for the ukraine war, they will basically— we do for the ukraine war, they will basically be — we do for the ukraine war, they will basically be saying give us much as we can _ basically be saying give us much as we can and — basically be saying give us much as we can. and there are some kind of differences — we can. and there are some kind of

differences within that. so from her prime _ differences within that. so from her prime minister borisjohnson as differences within that. so from her prime minister boris johnson as well as li2— prime minister boris johnson as well as liz truss — prime minister boris johnson as well as liz truss is said the uk should provide advanced fighterjets. but number— provide advanced fighterjets. but number ten's provide advanced fighterjets. but numberten's argument is provide advanced fighterjets. but number ten's argument is they want to do— number ten's argument is they want to do that _ number ten's argument is they want to do that but it would take years in the _ to do that but it would take years in the figure of five years was once quoted _ in the figure of five years was once quoted. and i think it's a tricky one because you have this political imperative, and that polling shows people _ imperative, and that polling shows people are very much in favour of doing _ people are very much in favour of doing this — people are very much in favour of doing this. you just have logistical challenges of not only providing equipment the ukrainians can use but also the _ equipment the ukrainians can use but also the sheer fact that the uk armed — also the sheer fact that the uk armed forces are not that replete with equipment. and in the years prior— with equipment. and in the years prior to this, there's been lots of complaints— prior to this, there's been lots of complaints from military people that britain's _ complaints from military people that britain's armed forces had not got all the _ britain's armed forces had not got all the arms they need. so the tricky— all the arms they need. so the tricky balancing act that we are to balance _ tricky balancing act that we are to balance the tricky balancing act with a — balance the tricky balancing act with a balance of reality and possibility with this very strong political— possibility with this very strong political imperative to be shown to be doing _ political imperative to be shown to be doing what we can. and political imperative to be shown to be doing what we can.— be doing what we can. and indeed talkini be doing what we can. and indeed talking about _ be doing what we can. and indeed talking about boris _ be doing what we can. and indeed talking about boris johnson, -

be doing what we can. and indeed talking about boris johnson, he i be doing what we can. and indeed i talking about boris johnson, he was talking about borisjohnson, he was somebody he was very forthright when it came to ukraine. do you feel there are still a political will there are still a political will there and we saw the lead often speaking, do you think is echoed or reported among the american public? absolutely. as far as supporting ukraine — absolutely. as far as supporting ukraine in— absolutely. as far as supporting ukraine in their— absolutely. as far as supporting ukraine in their fight _ absolutely. as far as supporting ukraine in their fight against - ukraine in their fight against russia, _ ukraine in their fight against russia, again _ ukraine in their fight against russia, again it— ukraine in their fight against russia, again it goes- ukraine in their fight against russia, again it goes to - ukraine in their fight against russia, again it goes to a i ukraine in their fight against i russia, again it goes to a point ukraine in their fight against - russia, again it goes to a point we talked _ russia, again it goes to a point we talked about — russia, again it goes to a point we talked about earlier, _ russia, again it goes to a point we talked about earlier, explaining. russia, again it goes to a point we talked about earlier, explaining to| talked about earlier, explaining to the american _ talked about earlier, explaining to the american people _ talked about earlier, explaining to the american people why - talked about earlier, explaining to the american people why it - talked about earlier, explaining to. the american people why it matters to them _ the american people why it matters to them and — the american people why it matters to them and why— the american people why it matters to them and why it's _ the american people why it matters to them and why it's so _ the american people why it matters to them and why it's so important. to them and why it's so important to support— to them and why it's so important to support ukraine _ to them and why it's so important to support ukraine but _ to them and why it's so important to support ukraine but again _ to them and why it's so important to support ukraine but again provide i support ukraine but again provide them _ support ukraine but again provide them not — support ukraine but again provide them not only— support ukraine but again provide them not only with _ support ukraine but again provide them not only with the _ support ukraine but again provide them not only with the resourcesl support ukraine but again provide - them not only with the resources and them not only with the resources and the equipment, — them not only with the resources and the equipment. but— them not only with the resources and the equipment, but the _ them not only with the resources and the equipment, but the training - them not only with the resources and the equipment, but the training to. the equipment, but the training to use it _ the equipment, but the training to use it. because _ the equipment, but the training to use it. because when _ the equipment, but the training to use it. because when i _ the equipment, but the training to use it. because when i worked - the equipment, but the training to use it. because when i worked for| use it. because when i worked for congressman— use it. because when i worked for congressman abingdon_ use it. because when i worked for| congressman abingdon kinsinger, use it. because when i worked for- congressman abingdon kinsinger, we had several— congressman abingdon kinsinger, we had several members _ congressman abingdon kinsinger, we had several members who _ congressman abingdon kinsinger, we had several members who would - congressman abingdon kinsinger, we i had several members who would come in that— had several members who would come in that it _ had several members who would come in that it was _ had several members who would come in that it was simple _ had several members who would come in that it was simple to _ had several members who would come in that it was simple to have _ in that it was simple to have equipment— in that it was simple to have equipment out _ in that it was simple to have equipment out of— in that it was simple to have equipment out of the - in that it was simple to have equipment out of the don't i in that it was simple to have - equipment out of the don't know how to use _ equipment out of the don't know how to use it— equipment out of the don't know how to use it or— equipment out of the don't know how to use it or don't _ equipment out of the don't know how to use it or don't have _ to use it or don't have the batteries— to use it or don't have the batteries to _ to use it or don't have the batteries to keep - to use it or don't have the batteries to keep it - to use it or don't have the| batteries to keep it going, to use it or don't have the - batteries to keep it going, the ammunition _ batteries to keep it going, the ammunition to— batteries to keep it going, the ammunition to use _ batteries to keep it going, the ammunition to use that - batteries to keep it going, the ammunition to use that piecel batteries to keep it going, the i ammunition to use that piece of equipment _ ammunition to use that piece of equipment. so— ammunition to use that piece of equipment. so that's _ ammunition to use that piece of equipment. so that's a - ammunition to use that piece of equipment. so that's a really. equipment. so that's a really important _ equipment. so that's a really important part— equipment. so that's a really important part of— equipment. so that's a really important part of this - equipment. so that's a reallyl important part of this training equipment. so that's a really- important part of this training that we are _ important part of this training that we are talking _ important part of this training that we are talking about. _ important part of this training that we are talking about.— important part of this training that we are talking about. which can take months or indeed _ we are talking about. which can take months or indeed years _ we are talking about. which can take months or indeed years and - we are talking about. which can take months or indeed years and we - we are talking about. which can take months or indeed years and we have | months or indeed years and we have to leave it there just for now. thanks so much and more from you to in a few minutes i but to stay with

us right here at bbc news. you are watching the context. hello. for most of us, today has once again brought blue skies and warm sunshine. but there is a bit of a change on the way as we head towards the weekend, and that change is just starting to take shape in the atlantic. this swirl of cloud here, an area of low pressure moving towards our shores. and this little clump of cloud here is going to start to approach the south—west of england as we head through the night, so that could introduce one or two showers, the odd thunderstorm maybe. elsewhere dry with clear skies, one or two mist patches. a little bit chilly, actually, across parts of eastern scotland and north—east england. one or two places in the countryside could drop a little bit lower than those temperatures suggest. into friday, fine start for most, any early mist clearing, but we will see more cloud

and the chance for showers or thunderstorms across western parts. so for south—west england, parts of wales, northern ireland, maybe getting across the irish sea, across the isle of man into north—west england and south—west scotland. but where you see sunshine, again it's going to feel very warm, 27—28 degrees and actually a little bit warmer than it has been of late for some north sea coasts. into the weekend, this area of low pressure, that swirl of cloud i showed you earlier, it starts to approach us from the west. the increasing chance of rain — heavy, thundery downpours in fact — but with some spells of warm sunshine in between. now, on saturday, most of the showers are likely to be out towards the west as that area of low pressure approaches. further east, not as many showers, more dry weather and sunshine, although some low cloud may well linger close to the coasts of norfolk and suffolk. temperature—wise, 22—25 degrees quite easily. it wouldn't surprise me at all if in the sunniest spots, it got a little warmer than that. and then into sunday, there's the chance that showers

and thunderstorms may become a little more widespread, particularly down towards the south of the uk. in fact, we could see some more organised heavy, thundery rain later in the day. temperatures widely up into the low to mid—20 celsius. now, through sunday night, it does look like we could see an area of heavy and thundery rain driving its way northwards across the uk. and then as we head into monday, well, low pressure will be very much in charge of the scene. so that means some showers around, some thunderstorms. stays quite showery certainly through the first half of the week, maybe drier later, and remaining relatively warm.

hello, i'm nuala mcgovern. you're watching the context on bbc news. un general sectretary, antonio guterres says the world is racing toward a climate change disaster, and calls the global response woefully inadequate. the un secretary—general antonio the un secretary—general antonio guterres has warned that the world guterres has warned that the world is racing toward a climate change disaster, and dismissed the global response as woefully inadequate. he also said current climate policies will lead to average temperatures 2.8 degrees celsius above pre—industrial times by the end of the century, nearly twice the un goal

of a 1.5 degree rise.