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cream about beings and an ice cream van surprise. but first, former uni of nottingham student valdir colour karma has been charged with three counts of murder after barnaby webber, grace o'malley coomber and ian coate was stabbed to death in the city on tuesday morning. a moment of silence was held at the start of the ashes test series in edgbaston and england and australian cricketers wore black armbands to remember the three who died. some other stories now, conor mcgregor has been accused of sexually assaulting a woman after a basketball game in miami last week. his lawyer said the allegations are false though and miami police investigations has been opened. and spotify has been opened. and spotify has ended its podcaster deal with harry and meghan, confirming they would not be renewing megan's series, archetypes, and a joint statement that they've agreed to part ways. some other media
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is one of britain's youngest imams and uses social media to tackle negative assumptions about islam and to speak about men's mental health did you know the beans were use for baked beans are not actually grown in the uk? they are shipped in from all over the world but for 12 years scientists have developed a seed they think will grow here and a farm in lincolnshire has been trying to —— trying it out. fingers crossed it works. now, ten seconds of ice cream. a man of many, many talents then, eric —— erling haaland was having a great time whipping up ice cream for football fans. i love it. you are all caught up. see you. voice-over: this is bbc news. we'll have the headlines and all the main news stories for you at the top of the hour,
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straight after this programme. unintelligible bombs, mortared. let the bombs go from the aircraft _ let the bombs go from the aircraft. how many young people did we _ aircraft. how many young people did we actually kill? we aircraft. how many young people did we actually kill?— did we actually kill? we look to the aircraft _ did we actually kill? we look to the aircraft and _ did we actually kill? we look to the aircraft and the - did we actually kill? we look to the aircraft and the whole | to the aircraft and the whole of the — to the aircraft and the whole of the back— to the aircraft and the whole of the back of— to the aircraft and the whole of the back of it _ to the aircraft and the whole of the back of it had - to the aircraft and the whole of the back of it had been i of the back of it had been shredded _ of the back of it had been shredded with _ of the back of it had been shredded with shell- of the back of it had been - shredded with shell splinters. if the — shredded with shell splinters. if the sergeant _ shredded with shell splinters. if the sergeant says _ shredded with shell splinters. if the sergeant saysjump, - shredded with shell splinters. | if the sergeant saysjump, you if the sergeant says jump, you say how high. we did whatever we were told to do. in say how high. we did whatever we were told to do.— we were told to do. in the sand, we were told to do. in the sand. the _ we were told to do. in the sand, the only _ we were told to do. in the sand, the only way - we were told to do. in the
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sand, the only way to - we were told to do. in the i sand, the only way to survive seemed to be trying to get shelter or ——of some kind. because of the 12 of us, only eight — because of the 12 of us, only eight of— because of the 12 of us, only eight of us had come back, four of our— eight of us had come back, four of our crews had gone, including one crew who were on the very— including one crew who were on the very first trip. it including one crew who were on the very first trip.— the very first trip. it was a sunday. — the very first trip. it was a sunday, inaudible - the very first trip. it was a | sunday, inaudible mother the very first trip. it was a - sunday, inaudible mother and father and i remember hearing the bishop getting up in the pulpit before his sermon and saying, " we are now at war with germany" and i thought, "how exciting! go on an adventure!" and little did i know what was in store for me.
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my my position was putting on intel two to the north of tunisia. we took a month of solid fighting. you were shot at, shelled, bombed, mortared, everything. and you got the dreadful feeling of sickness in your tummy. dreadful feeling of sickness in yourtummy. 0h dreadful feeling of sickness in your tummy. oh god, dreadful feeling of sickness in yourtummy. oh god, will this be the last time? sometimes, we were lucky. sometimes we weren't. i was lucky. i think towards the end, before the end of april, unintelligible really had had it. and there was surrendering a lot. they stopped counter attacking and i think about time, they realised that they were on the defeated side. at the time
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unintelligible. that was it. capture the objective. fight. kill people. awful, isn't it? i mean, i've killed my fellow man. i'm not proud of that. i basically got into a hospital. i said to the nurse can i send a telegram to my mother and father? and she said oh, yes, certainly! isaid wounded. bullets, leftarm, left leg. not serious, should survive. i thought that might amuse them, and it did.
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i loved unintelligible thought it was perfect. something about like being on the sea, in no way. you could go in any direction, it is a great sort of freedom attached, beautiful smooth surfaces, sand and impossible unintelligible sand dunes. some of the maps were very blank. i mean, i had a big chart on naval chart, really, with a lot of latitude and longitude is and in some cases, i had one chart which had just a few little speculative hatch fines on it and a dotted line
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across it which was labelled suspected camel track. well, i thought david stirling was a first—class man. highly intelligent, highly motivated. unintelligible. founding of the sas. was also a person who managed to recruit about 80 chaps who he thought had the requirements that he needed, and one of his major requirements was he wanted people who would be able to get on with each other in difficult
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circumstances, so those early operations were conducted as far as possible and in great secrecy, were brought up, we were all brought up to keep the whole thing totally under hacked. they make very good stories, no denying. they make very good stories, no den inc. �* , ., they make very good stories, no den in. �* denying. are you fuelling your vehicle, denying. are you fuelling your vehicle. mr — denying. are you fuelling your vehicle, mr sadler? _ denying. are you fuelling your vehicle, mr sadler? we - denying. are you fuelling your vehicle, mr sadler? we go - vehicle, mr sadler? we go tonight — rock music plays. but they were all part of the business, really. you had to put up with it. it was not something that people would join at the time unintelligible well, it was exciting to be shooting off at things, yes, i
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suppose it was. certainly, we didn't think of ourselves as war heroes. i don't think we were war heroes. i think it's a term which is must —— much misused. i went iwent up i went up to newcastle with a friend — i went up to newcastle with a friend and went into the recruiting office, asked the recruiting office, asked the recruiting sergeant if i could join — recruiting sergeant if i could join the _ recruiting sergeant if i could join the northumberland fuse back—and—forth usually is i was scared — back—and—forth usually is i was scared of— back—and—forth usually is i was scared of my mum and dad, let alone _ scared of my mum and dad, let alone the — scared of my mum and dad, let alone the nazis! and the ship, i didn't know this— and the ship, i didn't know this at the time, i was down in the hole — this at the time, i was down in the hole with everybody else, the hole with everybody else, the ship — the hole with everybody else, the ship turned into the mediterranean and the next
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thing — mediterranean and the next thing i— mediterranean and the next thing i know, inland, in a port. _ thing i know, inland, in a port. and— thing i know, inland, in a port, and! thing i know, inland, in a port, and i found out it was the — port, and i found out it was the port of algiers. in north africa — the port of algiers. in north africa. very scary for an 18—year—old boy who had never been _ 18—year—old boy who had never been out — 18—year—old boy who had never been out of north sheils. yeah, but we — been out of north sheils. yeah, but we just— been out of north sheils. yeah, but we just got on with it. you know. — but we just got on with it. you know. if— but we just got on with it. you know, if the sergeant says jump, _ know, if the sergeant says jump, you say how high? and we 'ust jump, you say how high? and we just did _ jump, you say how high? and we just did whatever we were told to do. — just did whatever we were told to do, and that's the easiest way— to do, and that's the easiest way to— to do, and that's the easiest way to get on in the army. if the — way to get on in the army. if the sergeant or the corporal says— the sergeant or the corporal says do— the sergeant or the corporal says do it, you do it. a lot of the — says do it, you do it. a lot of the time _ says do it, you do it. a lot of the time i— says do it, you do it. a lot of the time i was trained in weapons but because i had a little — weapons but because i had a little bit _ weapons but because i had a little bit of a problem with one — little bit of a problem with one of— little bit of a problem with one of my eyes, they thought the rifle — one of my eyes, they thought the rifle wasn't a good idea for me _ the rifle wasn't a good idea for me. and so, they put us on brain— for me. and so, they put us on brain guns _ for me. and so, they put us on brain guns. in fact, for a period _ brain guns. in fact, for a period of— brain guns. in fact, for a period of time in africa, i was a twin— period of time in africa, i was a twin brand gunner and that meant — a twin brand gunner and that meant that i was sitting on a very— meant that i was sitting on a very small vehicle with two
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brand — very small vehicle with two brand guns pointing backwards with the — brand guns pointing backwards with the convoy was in front and — with the convoy was in front and i— with the convoy was in front and i was _ with the convoy was in front and i was like taylor and tommy watching — and i was like taylor and tommy watching for aircraft attacking from — watching for aircraft attacking from behind —— bren guns. 0r watching for aircraft attacking from behind —— bren guns. or if iwes— from behind —— bren guns. or if iweset— from behind —— bren guns. or if iwas at the _ from behind —— bren guns. or if i was at the front that i did the — i was at the front that i did the same again but they thought because — the same again but they thought because of the eye problem, i was better with a twin bre guns rather— was better with a twin bre guns rather than arrival. 0n rather than arrival. on occasions as you were driving along — occasions as you were driving along particular roads, everything was fine, no problems. and it happensjust like that _ problems. and it happensjust like that. you hear a buzz you look— like that. you hear a buzz you took op. _ like that. you hear a buzz you look up, there is somebody throwing _ look up, there is somebody throwing bits and pieces that you so— throwing bits and pieces that you so you fight back. do what you so you fight back. do what you are — you so you fight back. do what you are trained to do, turn your— you are trained to do, turn your machine—gun in the direction _ your machine—gun in the direction of whatever it is that— direction of whatever it is that is— direction of whatever it is that is attacking you and let lo. that is attacking you and let go yeah _ that is attacking you and let go. yeah. it happened that manym _ go. yeah. it happened that many... just like going out in the dryer— many... just like going out in the dryer and getting wet. when i was about 19, i was
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living near hampton court bridge. a german aircraft came over and lobbed out a bomb and it landed on the other side of the road to me. it was a good job it was a light bomb because being a heavy one, i shouldn't being a heavy one, i shouldn't be here talking to you this afternoon. well, if we were ——if i had an incentive tojoin the airforce, but ——if i had an incentive tojoin the air force, but was given the air force, but was given the grace of emphasis and i thought i must go out and join the airforce thought i must go out and join the air force and you never know, i might be able to catch up know, i might be able to catch up with this chap, of course i never did. and as you've been an instructor, i take it you would like to go on instructing? and i ratherfoolishly
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like to go on instructing? and i rather foolishly said like to go on instructing? and i ratherfoolishly said no, sir. i want to get to grips with the enemy. chuckles. very aware that the enemy was only too happy to get to grips with me! anyway, iwas too happy to get to grips with me! anyway, i was then sent to a night fighter training school because i wanted to become a light fight. and one day, somebody came from don bennett's pathfinder group and came across and said if anybody here with 1000 flying hours, i'd like to recruit them into our bomber command night flight striking force. and i thought well, that's for me. i saw this rather elderly
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navigator with a canada flash on his shoulder. he must�*ve been all of 28, so he was quite an old man. have you crewed up with anybody? no, he said. so i said what's your experience? and he said to me well, i've been an instructor, a navigation instructor, at prince edward island. so i said to him you found yourself a pilot. and i think we made a very good team. he was, without question, the very, very best navigator on the squadron. and i was incredibly lucky to have had him as my navigator. taking over on the tarmac a line of new mosquitoes ready to display their powers in the air, mosquito is the great
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aeronautical success of the war, british inventive genius has produced a formidable air weapon with a reputed speed of over 400 an hour. here are pictures to carry in your minds i when next you hear of mind's i when next you hear of mosquitoes having been in action. ! mosquitoes having been in action. ~ ., action. i think on the fifth raid was _ action. i think on the fifth raid was on _ action. i think on the fifth raid was on berlin. - action. i think on the fifth raid was on berlin. berlin| action. i think on the fifth - raid was on berlin. berlin was about the most heavily defended city in the whole of the third reich. and if you are going to be shot down it was likely to occur there, and i remember occurthere, and i remember on this particular occasion, i allowed myself to be caught by allowed myself to be caught by a salvo of anti—aircraft shells, and it lifted up the aircraft and it caused both engines to stop. they weren't damaged, itjust interfered damaged, it just interfered with damaged, itjust interfered with the carburetion. after what seemed like six months, it was probably about 30 seconds, the engines restarted and we
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found we worked our way out of berlin. and i turned to him and said, doug, you won't frightened were you? and he said no, iwasn't frightened were you? and he said no, i wasn't frightened, frightened were you? and he said no, iwasn't frightened, i was bloody terrified! laughs the scariest raid, without question, was when i was picked up question, was when i was picked up by a jet fighter. it was what was known as outerwear radar. 0nce what was known as outerwear radar. once he got it visual knew he would give you a blast of cannon fire and you would cease to exist because the fire from the ne 262 was formidable. in my aircraft i had what was known as radar detection. so as soon as he turned on his
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outerwear radar, i got a signal in my cockpit. and then i would take immediate evasive action, as i did, by dropping down 10,000 feet and altering course. and my navigators complaining bitterly and saying to me, well, how do you know! i can't see him. and i said, very good thing too, because if you could see him, he could see us, and we would be dead. so i can't afford for you to be wrong. and i dodged in and out of the sky and all over the place, and eventually i took him down low, because when you get down low, jet aircraft consume large quantities of fuel. and i knew this chapter only had 45 minutes from the time that he took off to the time that he took off to the time that he landed back at base. and i thought sooner or later, he would have to pack it
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in. so he went home, and i lost him. i in. so he went home, and i lost him. . , in. so he went home, and i lost him. ., , ., ~ in. so he went home, and i lost him. .,, ., ~ ., him. i was working one day in darlington — him. i was working one day in darlington and _ him. i was working one day in darlington and i _ him. i was working one day in darlington and i heard... - him. i was working one day in darlington and i heard... and| him. i was working one day in| darlington and i heard... and i walked across the road to an raf recruiting office, and i said "i would like tojoin the raf please", the chap said "very good sir, come on in and we will take all your details", and that was it. ina in a bomber, then, iwas in halifax bomber, you would have seven people. a pilot, navigator, radio operator, a
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bomber, two gunners and flight engineer. and all the lads that i was with were all canadians. and really, you did have to look after each other and look after yourselves. and we managed to get through 31 operations. in bomber command. as the flight engineer, you had to make sure that mechanically everything on the aircraft work perfectly. and we call a bombing raid over germany... let the bombs go from the aircraft and you could see these bombs exploding on german
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soil. and the number of people being killed. and i used to think about it. you knew it was happening, but tried to forget it. that you were bombing civilians. it's a funny feeling, you know, to be involved in war and to be killing people, and knowing you are killing people, and also thinking, not knowing, but thinking, not knowing, but thinking that there was a reason and a right in doing it. but since then, i have realised that there wasn't a right, and there never will be a right for people to fight each other. never ever. and there are
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things you can't forget, you can't change... they are just there. and you are stuck in memories. there. and you are stuck in memories— there. and you are stuck in memories. �* , memories. the flight engineer's permission _ memories. the flight engineer's permission was _ memories. the flight engineer's permission was inside _ memories. the flight engineer's permission was inside the - permission was inside the steering, out of sight almost. —— position. you couldn't see out _ —— position. you couldn't see out and — —— position. you couldn't see out and i_ —— position. you couldn't see out and i was objecting to this in my— out and i was objecting to this in my letters home. my mother kept _ in my letters home. my mother kept ali— in my letters home. my mother kept all my letters, they are still— kept all my letters, they are still there. and i was complaining about the fact that that i_ complaining about the fact that that i wasn't able to see anything, like a young lad, as i anything, like a young lad, as i was — 0urvery our very first mission was to a place — our very first mission was to a place in — our very first mission was to a place in the middle of france, it was— place in the middle of france, it was a —
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place in the middle of france, it was a big ammunition dump and a— it was a big ammunition dump and a factory. it had been french— and a factory. it had been french but taken over by the germans _ french but taken over by the germans. i was in the front of the aircraft, i happened to look— the aircraft, i happened to look up _ the aircraft, i happened to look up and it was a little fiicker _ look up and it was a little flicker of light and i shouted "gone — flicker of light and i shouted "gone bad", it meant there was a fight — "gone bad", it meant there was a fight between lancaster. i couldn't _ a fight between lancaster. i couldn't see it but it was up there — couldn't see it but it was up there. right boys, keep your eyes — there. right boys, keep your eyes skinned, and we came around _ eyes skinned, and we came around and focus on it and see if he _ around and focus on it and see if he could _ around and focus on it and see if he could see something. and it was— if he could see something. and it wasjust _ if he could see something. and it wasjust like if he could see something. and it was just like this. if he could see something. and it wasjust like this. we came back, — it wasjust like this. we came back, we _ it wasjust like this. we came back, we were in the dining hall. — back, we were in the dining hall. four— back, we were in the dining hall, four empty tables. because of the 12 of us, only eight — because of the 12 of us, only eight of— because of the 12 of us, only eight of us had come back. 20,000 _ eight of us had come back. 20,000 bombs dropped in the 24 hours _ 20,000 bombs dropped in the 24 hours preceding _ 20,000 bombs dropped in the 24 hours preceding the _ 20,000 bombs dropped in the 24 hours preceding the landing. - hours preceding the landing. the softening _ hours preceding the landing. the softening up _ hours preceding the landing. the softening up of- hours preceding the landing. the softening up of the - hours preceding the landing. i the softening up of the german defences— the softening up of the german defences on— the softening up of the german
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defences on the _ the softening up of the german defences on the broad - the softening up of the german defences on the broad stretch l defences on the broad stretch of coast _ defences on the broad stretch of coast iii— defences on the broad stretch of coast- - -_ of coast... it was about three o'clock of coast... it was about three o'clock in _ of coast... it was about three o'clock in the _ of coast... it was about three o'clock in the morning - of coast... it was about three o'clock in the morning and i o'clock in the morning and quite _ o'clock in the morning and quite a _ o'clock in the morning and quite a normal day, nobody told us it _ quite a normal day, nobody told us it was— quite a normal day, nobody told us it was invasion day. it was a place — us it was invasion day. it was a place where the americans were — a place where the americans were landing and it was ourjob to bombard a bit to help the chaps— to bombard a bit to help the chaps on— to bombard a bit to help the chaps on the ground. and as we turned — chaps on the ground. and as we turned away, we happened to notice — turned away, we happened to notice in _ turned away, we happened to notice in the distance, four iittie — notice in the distance, four little planes. german fighters. the best— little planes. german fighters. the best of them, fastest of them — the best of them, fastest of them. and my rear gunner, wally. _ them. and my rear gunner, wally, was shouting" get into the cloud! there was a cloud base, — the cloud! there was a cloud base, it — the cloud! there was a cloud base, it wasn't very thick but we were _ base, it wasn't very thick but we were being told to stay up, and he — we were being told to stay up, and he was shouting, get into the cloud, _ and he was shouting, get into the cloud, and we got into the cloud — the cloud, and we got into the cloud and _ the cloud, and we got into the cloud. and bomber command, the kiiied _ cloud. and bomber command, the kiiied rate — cloud. and bomber command, the killed rate was almost 50%, plus — killed rate was almost 50%, plus ail— killed rate was almost 50%, plus all the wounded and the
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rest — plus all the wounded and the rest of— plus all the wounded and the rest of it _ plus all the wounded and the rest of it. but when i signed on, — rest of it. but when i signed on. i— rest of it. but when i signed on, i didn't realise i was almost _ on, i didn't realise i was almost signing my life away.
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hello there. it's looking pretty different weather—wise this weekend — we're not going to have wall—to—wall sunshine like we've had the previous weekend. we have low pressure working its way and that's going to bring showers and some thundery downpours for many places. and there will be some sunshine around, but you'll notice it's going to feel increasingly humid. 0ur air source still coming in from the south, so it's going to be fairly warm. but here it is, this area of low pressure continuing to edge in towards western areas. that's where we'll see most of the showers, even longer spells of rain across northern ireland for saturday morning. best of the sunshine towards eastern areas — could see a little bit of cloud here and there, and there could be the odd shower popping up into central areas into the afternoon. some low cloud, mist and murk affecting northeast scotland and the northern isles, so temperatures here only
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around 13 or 14 degrees, but for most, it's the low to mid 20s. so, not quite as warm as of late, but still well above the seasonal norm. now, as we head through saturday night, we continue with showers through central and western areas, again, some of them will be heavy and thundery, tending to stay dry the further east that you are. and it's going to be slightly milder, i think, saturday night — a warmer, muggierfeel to things out west. now, into sunday, this is the day where i think we could see most of the showers and thunderstorms. they will become widespread across england and wales during the day and there could be some torrential downpours in places. now, there will be more cloud around, too, so it's not going to be quite as warm than of late, we're generally looking at the high teens, low 20s for many of us, and still some low cloud, mist and murk for northeast scotland, the northern isles. through sunday night, it looks like we could see an area of thundery rain spreading northwards across england and wales, pushing across scotland into monday, so a very wet start for monday morning across scotland. that heavy rain becomes confined to the north highlands into the northern isles, but elsewhere, it brightens up, sunshine and showers —
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again, some of the showers could be heavy and thundery in places. but with more sunshine around, it'll be a little bit warmer, i think, with temperatures again reaching the mid 20s in the warmest spot. and then, as we move beyond monday, low pressure always nearby to the north and the west of the uk. however, towards the end of the new week, it could be the high pressure wants to build back in again, so that should kill off the showers across southern areas, and we could see temperatures rising again across southern britain with the increasing amounts of sunshine. but most of the showers will tend to be across the north and the west of the country. see you later.
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