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missing near the wreck of the titanic. the coastguard says the sounds are now a focus of the search. the sonar buoys detected noise in the water. we don't know the source of that noise, but we have shared that information with navy experts. in this hour, we will speak live to rear admiral john mauger, the us coast guard commander overseeing the search. armed police are responding to an incident in north—west london. one man been arrested. these are the live pictures from that hospital. there are reports of two people being injured in that incident. uk inflation remains higher than expected, fuelling expectations of an interest rate rise. why is uk inflation coming down more slowly than other major economies?
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hello, i'm matthew amroliwala. welcome to verified live, three hours of breaking stories and checking out the truth behind them. let me start with that breaking news. london's metropolitan police says they have arrested a man during a major incident at a hospital in west london. armed officers have been deployed to the central middlesex hospital following been deployed to the central middlesex hospitalfollowing reports of a stabbing. social media posts say staff and patients were advised to stay locked in their rooms. there has been a statement from london ambulance service, but i want to show you live pictures from the hospital first. show you live pictures from the hospitalfirst. this is the show you live pictures from the hospital first. this is the scene, with staff and patients outside the doors as the hospital was locked
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down for a while. the ambulance service say they have treated two people so far at the scene and that the number of injuries is expected to rise. that is the latest from the ambulance service. at least two people have been treated at the scene but the expectation is that numbers will rise in the coming hours. police and the ambulance service are there. and as i was saying in the introduction, the hospital locked down for a certain amount of time as they were dealing with this incident, described by police as a major incident. police are saying one person has been arrested. those are the pictures from north west london. we are waiting for more lines to come in. it is right in the middle of the day
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in a busy central london hospital. that is the scene as they continue to wait for instructions from the emergency services. let'sjoin somebody who is at the scene. you are on the phone, describe what has been happening? apologies, we were hoping to speak to somebody at the scene but we have lost the line. those are the latest pictures. i will try one more time, amy, i wonder if you can hear me? no, we have lost the line. we will keep an eye on that and return when we get more information.
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let's turn to that massive search off the newfoundland coast for a missing submersible near the wreck of the titanic. us coastguards have confirmed that underwater noises have been detected. the sounds were picked up by a canadian aircraft. according to one report, there was a banging noise at 30 minute intervals, but searches so far have produced no results. five people are on board, three of them british. it's estimated they only have a day's supply of oxygen left. on today's programme, we will talk to our teams on the ground in boston. we will hear from someone who has been on board that missing submersible. and in half an hour, we will talk live for an extended interview with rear admiraljohn mauger of the us coast guard. but first, our correspondent jessica parker has the latest from boston. the big development has been the us coast guard say they have detected noises underwater using their
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technology. sonar buoys have been dropped onto the surface of the ocean around the titanic wreckage site to listen deep under water. but the us coast guard have also been clear that they don't know the source of those sounds. they are passing the data onto us navy experts to take a closer look. but it is an area around the titanic site where there is a lot of metal, so a lot of caveats at the moment. they are also continuing their aerial search, so aeroplanes are flying over the water. they say they are searching an area the size of the us state of connecticut in case the us state of connecticut in case the vessel has managed to re—emerge onto the surface of the water. it is a small vessel, around 21 feet, so thatis a small vessel, around 21 feet, so that is a huge challenge. but this development that noises have been heard at least brings some hope, despite all the caveats, that this
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search operation.— despite all the caveats, that this search operation. jessica parker in boston. here's a reminder of what happened. the passengers left canada's newfoundland last friday on a ship that was carrying the sub. they paid $250,000 each for the trip. the four men and a teenager travelled more than 650 kilometres to the site of the titanic wreckage and began their dive down on sunday morning at around 8am local time. it was supposed to last no more than eight hours, seated in very cramped conditions. but the sub lost contact with the ship after one hour and 45 minutes, and nothing has been heard from them since. the alarm was only raised with the coastguard at 5.45 on sunday evening. our us partners cbs interviewed a key player in the rescue operation, rear admiraljohn mauger from the us coast guard. let's listen. we are we a re really we are really focused on bringing
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all of those capabilities in. as mentioned briefly, we had an aircraft flying that had sonar buoys that detected noise in the water. we don't know the source of that noise, but we have shared that information with navy experts to classify. in the meantime, we have re—prioritised the meantime, we have re—prioritised the two remote operated vehicles that we have searching in the water and the one surface vessel that has sonar capability in the area of those noises to see if we can locate the source of the noises and locate the source of the noises and locate the people in the submersible. we will be speaking live to the rear admiral in 20 minutes' time for his latest assessment on that search and rescue operation. let me take you to those pictures about that breaking news story at the start of the
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programme. i was telling you about that major incident at a hospital. i want to bring in a journalist who was there. we lost your line a couple of times, amy. why don't you describe what you have seen happening? apologies. again, the land has let us down, but those are the aerial pictures above the north west london hospital —— the line has let us down. the incident is still ongoing. the lockdown was instituted immediately during the start of the incident. police are talking about one person being arrested. the ambulance are saying two people have been injured in that incident. those
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are the latest pictures. apologies that we have lost the phone line, it is obviously very busy on the ground, with communications potentially being interrupted. we will return to that in the next little while. let's return to that submarine rescue operation. our science correspondentjonathan amos explained in more detail how sonar technology is being used as part of the rescue efforts. what they might be doing is sending out repeated patterns tappings, and you would do that to distinguish your noise from the general din of the ocean. if they are on the sea floor, we are a long way down, almost four kilometres down. but let's imagine they are on the surface and they are doing these
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tappings. at the surface up here, they have dropped sonar buoys, listening devices, from aeroplanes. they will be listening for these tapping sounds. it's then possible that they could geo— locate the position of the sub. they would time the receipt of the signals. it is a bit like gps. you have a chip on your mobile phone and from the different arrival times of those signals, you can work out where you are in the street. it is a bit different, and nothing like as accurate. if they have just one sonar by picking up these sounds, the experts i have spoken to said they could probably geo— locate to one to two kilometres. if they have several sonar buoys up here, or receiving information, they might be able to get the search area down to 100 metres. then you put down a
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remotely operated vehicle and it would search that box. it would look for targets within that box. france is sending a ship equipped with one of those deep sea diving vessel is thatjonathan was talking about. the ship is called atalante and it has an underwater robot capable of reaching 6000 metres. the vessels are operated by underwater systems at the french research of institute of exploration of the sea and the head of that department told us how long it would take to do that exploration. it takes around an hour to get down there to 3800 metres of depth. then it's a question
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of finding the submersible. we heard about this from the previous speaker. we have a presumed position for the submersible, but we have no exact information and a search may be necessary. that is another factor of timing. and then a rescue salvage operation would take a certain number of hours before the submersible could be lifted to the surface. so there are a lot of limiting and uncertainly factors in this process. to be honest, i don't like the question of looking at probabilities. there is a chance, and we have to take the chance, and that's it. that was some of the latest information about the french equipment heading to the scene.
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live now to ois n fanning, who has taken two trips on the submersible in the past. he's in london. tell me what it was like being on that vessel? it tell me what it was like being on that vessel?— that vessel? it was thrilling and exhilarating- — that vessel? it was thrilling and exhilarating. obviously, - that vessel? it was thrilling and exhilarating. obviously, there l that vessel? it was thrilling and i exhilarating. obviously, there was that vessel? it was thrilling and - exhilarating. obviously, there was a lot of training beforehand and a lot of training on the ship itself. but to get to see the titanic in the first dive i did was amazing, and that we went for another dive and found a volcanic ridge, which is ironically named after paul. 50 it ironically named after paul. so it was fantastic. _ ironically named after paul. so it was fantastic. we _ ironically named after paul. so it was fantastic. we know - ironically named after paul. so it was fantastic. we know that in terms of the basic forms you have to fill in, it warns of the risk of death. tell me about the safety procedures that happened before you went down? before the sub can even launch, you get up at four o'clock in the morning and the safety procedures are ongoing until eight o'clock or nine o'clock before you can descend
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into the water. we have to stop at a certain level and recheck everything again before you get to stop two, three and four. it is like a launch into outer space. it's very slow, very cautious. and then the descent is the easy bit because you descend under your own weight. tell is the easy bit because you descend under your own weight.— is the easy bit because you descend under your own weight. tell me what the descent — under your own weight. tell me what the descent is _ under your own weight. tell me what the descent is like? _ under your own weight. tell me what the descent is like? it _ under your own weight. tell me what the descent is like? it is _ under your own weight. tell me what the descent is like? it is quiet, - the descent is like? it is quiet, beautiful- _ the descent is like? it is quiet, beautiful. at _ the descent is like? it is quiet, beautiful. at 500 _ the descent is like? it is quiet, beautiful. at 500 metres, - the descent is like? it is quiet, beautiful. at 500 metres, you| the descent is like? it is quiet, - beautiful. at 500 metres, you start getting all those luminous insects and shrimp and everything else you see on these programmes that are just flashing at you, which is exhilarating, for about 500 to 1000 metres. then after three or four hours, you reach the sea bed and you release and wait to get a bit of buoyancy. and then finally, to return, you drop the rest of the
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weights and then you return under your own steam. it's a very simple vessel. there are no bigger engines or computers. it is kept simple so that, ironically, there are less problems. fist that, ironically, there are less problems-— that, ironically, there are less roblems. �* ., problems. at least three of the eo - le problems. at least three of the peeple on _ problems. at least three of the peeple on this _ problems. at least three of the people on this vessel— problems. at least three of the people on this vessel have - problems. at least three of the people on this vessel have vast amounts of experience. in terms of coping, what would you be your assessment?— coping, what would you be your assessment? they will cope very well. in terms _ assessment? they will cope very well. in terms of _ assessment? they will cope very well. in terms of paul-henry - well. in terms of paul—henry nargeolet, he has done about a0 dives to the titanic. they would immediately look to conserve oxygen. they would know that i'm fake it would take —— they would know the time frame it would take for a rescue. they would keep calm, breathe shallowly and preserve oxygen. i think they could last without oxygen for longer than people think. the without oxygen for longer than peeple think-— without oxygen for longer than --eole think. . ., ,, ,, people think. the initial assessment was 96 hours. _
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people think. the initial assessment was 96 hours, which _ people think. the initial assessment was 96 hours, which is _ people think. the initial assessment was 96 hours, which is mid - people think. the initial assessment l was 96 hours, which is mid afternoon tomorrow. a lot of focus today is on these noises that have been heard by a plane flying over. in terms of standard practice, if you are in these situations, what are you told about what happens around rescue? what are you supposed to do to alert people? what are you supposed to do to alert --eole? ., , ., , people? nothing is the honest answer. there _ people? nothing is the honest answer. there is _ people? nothing is the honest answer. there is nothing - people? nothing is the honest answer. there is nothing you | people? nothing is the honest i answer. there is nothing you can people? nothing is the honest - answer. there is nothing you can do. in this case, i believe communications cut off. that could be a sign of something hitting the ship or breaking the antenna. that is what one would hope for. that is unusual. there is not a lot of metal lying around on the deck of the titanic, but anything can happen and hit you or trap you. that is the best outcome, that they are stuck and once they are released, they can come back up to the surface. shill
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and once they are released, they can come back up to the surface.- come back up to the surface. all the focus is on — come back up to the surface. all the focus is on a — come back up to the surface. all the focus is on a search _ come back up to the surface. all the focus is on a search and _ come back up to the surface. all the focus is on a search and rescue, - focus is on a search and rescue, that people have also been asking why people do this. you have done it — why? i why people do this. you have done it - wh ? ., , why people do this. you have done it - wh ? . , ., , ., - why? i have been doing this for three years _ - why? i have been doing this for three years. but _ - why? i have been doing this for three years. but people - - why? i have been doing this for three years. but people are - - why? i have been doing this for. three years. but people are missing the point here. prior to that, there were no dives to the titanic for 60 years. the scientific basis was to find out what has happened to the titanic in the last 60 years. it wasn't like this was going to go on for ever. and they were taking data points all the time. there are things called rusticles on the ship, as it is deteriorating. we things called rusticles on the ship, as it is deteriorating.— as it is deteriorating. we have to leave it there, _ as it is deteriorating. we have to leave it there, but _ as it is deteriorating. we have to leave it there, but thank - as it is deteriorating. we have to leave it there, but thank you - as it is deteriorating. we have to leave it there, but thank you for| leave it there, but thank you for joining us on bbc news. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.
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let's turn to a couple of stories making the headlines in the uk. marks & spencer, wh smith and argos are among dozens of well—known companies named forfailing to pay the minimum wage. an investigation looking at payments over the past 16 years found that almost £5 million was owed to 63,000 workers. wh smith, marks & spencer and argos said the breaches were unintentional and had already been remedied. a study has found that around one in five women conceive naturally after having a baby by fertility treatment such as ivf. scientists at university college london say their findings — published in the journal, human reproduction — show that natural pregnancies after ivf are not as unusual as though. about 10,000 people have gathered to welcome the summer solstice at stonehenge on the longest day of the year. on the solstice, the sun rises behind the entrance to the stone circle, and rays of light are channelled into the centre of the monument. stonehenge's distinctive formation aligns to both the midsummer sunrise and the midwinter sunset.
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let's return to that breaking story in central london. london's metropolitan police say they have arrested a man during a major incident. you can see people gathered at the doorways. the ambulance service say they have treated two people at the scene, although the number of injuries is expected to rise. two people have been treated and one is life—threatening. that is the latest information from the ambulance service. but some of the people who were gathered outside seem to have dispersed, so we look as though we are coming towards the end of that incident. it was described as a
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major incident. there are reports of a stabbing in the last hour. you can see the latest information on your screen. details are coming in to us all the time. let's turn to another important story in the uk. one government adviser told the bbc the bank of england might have to spark a recession to get inflation under control. one assessment that
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made me raise my eyebrows when i heard it on bbc radio earlier this morning was from karen ward, the chief market strategist atjpmorgan. our economy is running too hot, and the difficulty for the bank of england, no one envies theirjob, is that they have to therefore create a recession. they have to create uncertainty. it's only when companies feel nervous about the future that they will think, maybe i won't put through that price rise. or workers, when they are less confident about theirjob, i think, i won't push my bus for that higher iwon't push my bus for that higher pat’- i won't push my bus for that higher pay. it is that weakness in activity which eventually gets rid of inflation. �* , _, ., which eventually gets rid of inflation. �* , ., ., ~ inflation. let's continue to talk about this _ inflation. let's continue to talk about this with _ inflation. let's continue to talk about this with the _ inflation. let's continue to talk about this with the head - inflation. let's continue to talk about this with the head of - about this with the head of economics at the university of liverpool management school. is karen ward replied that the way out of this is to deliberately create
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some sort of recession? —— is she right? it some sort of recession? -- is she riuht? , . ., , some sort of recession? -- is she riuht? ,. . , ., right? it is certainly true that inflation is — right? it is certainly true that inflation is proving _ right? it is certainly true that inflation is proving more - right? it is certainly true that - inflation is proving more persistent than the bank of england expected, so it is right that interest rates are going to continue rising. and the rationale for that policy response is to encourage us to save more, to borrow and spend less and to cool down the economy. so the bank of england faces this trade—off between bringing down inflation, with the pain that causes to the economy. you can raise interest rates sharply and cause a sharp recession, but bring down inflation quickly, oryou recession, but bring down inflation quickly, or you can do it in a more gradual response. that is the trade—off the bank of england will be debating. i don't think it's right that you need to create a recession, but demand in the economy
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needs to slow relative to supply capacity. at needs to slow relative to supply ca aci . �* ., ., needs to slow relative to supply caaci .�* ., ., , ., capacity. a lot of people looking at that fi . ure capacity. a lot of people looking at that figure on _ capacity. a lot of people looking at that figure on the _ capacity. a lot of people looking at that figure on the screen, - capacity. a lot of people looking at that figure on the screen, 8.796, i that figure on the screen, 8.7%, were shocked when they heard it because all the expectation was that it would come down. but the underlying core inflation rate is absolutely stubborn. why is uk inflation different to what we are seeing in the us or elsewhere? it’s seeing in the us or elsewhere? it's true that seeing in the us or elsewhere? it�*s true that the underlying trend of inflation is the real concern. i think there are a couple of reasons why it is stubbornly high relative to other countries. one is that the tightening cycle at the bank of england started data than other
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countries, and monetary policy takes a long time to be effective. so an interest rate increase today and the impact inflation 18 months to two years down the road. so the increased interest rate started later, so we are anticipating that you will see those effects bring down inflation later as well. the second thing is that in the autumn, analysts were forecasting that the economy would be in recession in 2023. and the economy has proved to be stronger than people were anticipating. labour markets are stronger than people were anticipating. so the pressure on prices is coming from the fact that workers are able to renegotiate their wages and wage growth is rising. that is a reflection of the strength of the uk economy. we have to leave it there, _ strength of the uk economy. we have to leave it there, but _ strength of the uk economy. we have to leave it there, but thanks - strength of the uk economy. we have to leave it there, but thanks for - to leave it there, but thanks for that analysis. let me return to that
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breaking news because an update from the uk police in terms of the incident at that central london hospital, they are saying two people are being treated for stab injuries. one is a life—threatening injury, but they have said the incident is not being treated as terror —related. so that is an important additional piece of information. stay with us because we have an important interview coming up in the next moment or two where will be live with the us head of the overseeing the search and rescue operation and for that submersible of the newfoundland coast. the interview is coming up on bbc news interview is coming up on bbc news in a moment. don't go away. good afternoon. today is the 21st, summer solstice.
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it's when daylight hours seem to go on forever. and if we take a look at this chart, they're pretty impressive. many of us seeing sunrise just before 5:00 and not setting until after 9:30, 10:00. so, most of us will see 17 hours of daylight today. enjoy, if you can. we've got some showers around, most frequent and widespread the further north and west in scotland and northern ireland, but some through wales and south west close to glastonbury as well. and these are likely to threaten on and off throughout the afternoon. some places will stay dry and if you've got that sunshine, you've also got that warmth once again, with temperatures peaking at 25 degrees, 77 fahrenheit. now, through the night, those temperatures will fall away. not going to be quite as humid as the nightjust past. so thursday morning, we start off in single figures in scotland, around 13 or 1a degrees for england and wales. there'll be a lot of dry weather around first thing in the morning and then the risk of some showers
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but in a different place, perhaps across northeast england, down towards east anglia and the east midlands. some of those showers could be heavy and thundery. if you dodge them, we could see a warmer day, 27 degrees. that's up to 80 fahrenheit. that bodes well if you're putting up the tent at glastonbury on thursday. lots of sunshine around, increasing humidity as we go through the weekend, risk maybe of a shower on sunday. but it's a pretty promising forecast and that's because we've got this high pressure down to the south. now, weatherfronts are trying to topple across that high. so at times, they will bring outbreaks of rain across the far north and west. so, on friday we might see cloudier conditions gradually developing down through england and wales, perhaps the best of the sunshine in south east england. but some of this rain a little bit further north and west could be heavy. so a little bit fresher, low 20s as a maximum here, 25 degrees in the southeast corner. we keep that heat and humidity because we've got this high pressure dragging in the south—westerly flow, but low pressure never too far away. so, if we put the weather fronts on,
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you can see there's always the risk of more wetter weather through the weekend, the further north and west you go. so, we could see a north—south divide developing into the weekend with showers or longer spells of rain at times. but it stays pretty warm in the south.
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