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is bbc news. the headlines: underwater noises are detected in the search for a submersible — missing near the wreck of the titanic. the coast guard says the sounds are now a focus of the search. we'll speak live to rear admiraljohn mauger — the us coast guard commander overseeing the search. armed police respond to a stabbing at a hospital in north west london — two people are being treated at the scene — police say one man has been arrested. the bbc discovers evidence that hundreds of sick and mentally ill people from the windrush generation were wrongly deported from the uk and returned to the caribbean. straight back to our main story — the search for that submersible that's gone missing near the wreck of the titanic — with five people on board. joinng me live is rear admiraljohn
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maugher from the us coast guard. also with me in the studio is our science correspondentjonathon amos. thanks for giving your time when it is so valuable on a day like today. in the first instance, what is your latest assessment?— in the first instance, what is your latest assessment? thank you for the o- ortuni latest assessment? thank you for the opportunity to — latest assessment? thank you for the opportunity to come _ latest assessment? thank you for the opportunity to come onto _ latest assessment? thank you for the opportunity to come onto the - latest assessment? thank you for the opportunity to come onto the show. l opportunity to come onto the show. this has been a very complex and difficult case for everyone. as we continue to actively search for this submersible and the people on board, our thoughts are with the crew members and their families who i our thoughts are with the crew members and theirfamilies who i can imagine are having a very difficult time. we are working very hard in a unified command structure with us government agencies including the us navy, with canadian agencies
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including the canadian armed forces and the coastguard, and then also with private sector entities including the oceangate expedition. we are focused on bringing all assets to bear on this search for the submersible. this has happened in a remote location of the coastline of cape cod by 900 miles. we have prioritised a surface search and then a subsurface search so we have two vessels remotely operated that are conducting a subsurface search and we have aircraft and a service that immigrate surface vessel during the surface search ——
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and a surface vessel doing the surface search. it and a surface vessel doing the surface search.— surface search. it is standard ractice surface search. it is standard practice to — surface search. it is standard practice to bang _ surface search. it is standard practice to bang on _ surface search. it is standard practice to bang on the - surface search. it is standard practice to bang on the top i surface search. it is standard | practice to bang on the top of surface search. it is standard - practice to bang on the top of the hull at the top of the hour. was any kind of pattern detected? we hull at the top of the hour. was any kind of pattern detected?— kind of pattern detected? we are workin: kind of pattern detected? we are working closely _ kind of pattern detected? we are working closely with _ kind of pattern detected? we are working closely with leading - working closely with leading acoustic experts in the us navy and the canadian navy and i have integrated a uk submariner into my command in boston thanks to the support from the uk council general in boston. to make sure that we have the expertise that we need to understand what that noise signature is and what it is telling us. while the analysis is going on, we are not leading to a target the —— leading
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to a target remote vehicle, the solar noise that is being generated, solar noise that is being generated, so we have relocated the remote operated vehicles on site to search in those areas but at this time i do not have any confirmation of the noise and what it is. to not have any confirmation of the noise and what it is.— not have any confirmation of the noise and what it is. to be clear, was it a one _ noise and what it is. to be clear, was it a one off— noise and what it is. to be clear, was it a one off or _ noise and what it is. to be clear, was it a one off or something - was it a one off or something persistent?— was it a one off or something ersistent? g; . . ., ., persistent? the p-s aircraft have been flying _ persistent? the p-s aircraft have been flying and _ persistent? the p-s aircraft have been flying and dropping - persistent? the p-s aircraft have been flying and dropping sonar. persistent? the p-s aircraft have - been flying and dropping sonar buoys and we have picked up noise signature is on them and we are working through the analytics on that and already targeting the remote operating vehicles to search in those areas. 50 remote operating vehicles to search in those areas.— in those areas. so you heard something. _ in those areas. so you heard something, more _ in those areas. so you heard something, more than - in those areas. so you heard| something, more than once? in those areas. so you heard - something, more than once? the in those areas. so you heard _ something, more than once? the sonar buo s something, more than once? the sonar buoys picked — something, more than once? the sonar buoys picked up — something, more than once? the sonar buoys picked up a _ something, more than once? the sonar buoys picked up a number— something, more than once? the sonar buoys picked up a number of— something, more than once? the sonar
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buoys picked up a number of noises - buoys picked up a number of noises and so we are looking at all of the information coming in through them to understand what that is but we are re—targeting the on scene assets to focus on those areas. it are re-targeting the on scene assets to focus on those areas.— to focus on those areas. it was sufficiently _ to focus on those areas. it was sufficiently interesting - to focus on those areas. it was sufficiently interesting for - to focus on those areas. it was sufficiently interesting for you | to focus on those areas. it was i sufficiently interesting for you to say, we — sufficiently interesting for you to say, we need to narrow the search over— say, we need to narrow the search over here — say, we need to narrow the search over here to — say, we need to narrow the search over here to go and investigate? this is_ over here to go and investigate? this is a — over here to go and investigate? this is a really complex search and rescue case. my lead prosecutor's title for this is the search and rescue mission coordinator, a reflection that we do not have all of the assets and expertise to prosecute a complex search like this so we have brought in a unified command team of experts from the us navy and the canadian navy, from other agencies, to understand and
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act on the information that is available to us. let act on the information that is available to us.— act on the information that is available to us. ., , ., available to us. let me ask you, in terms of a — available to us. let me ask you, in terms of a human _ available to us. let me ask you, in terms of a human level, _ available to us. let me ask you, in terms of a human level, what - available to us. let me ask you, in terms of a human level, what is i available to us. let me ask you, in terms of a human level, what is it| terms of a human level, what is it like, given what is at stake, and the time pressures you are working under? . , ., ., under? our cruise, the women and men who are working — under? our cruise, the women and men who are working the _ under? our cruise, the women and men who are working the response, - under? our cruise, the women and men who are working the response, who - who are working the response, who are coordinating search and rescue and logistics operations, they are just doing an amazing job across both the us coast guard and the canadian coastguard and the us navy and canadian armed forces and in the private industry, the commercial operators that have deployed on the same, it is really remarkable, their efforts. they are motivated by the hope to find the submersible and the
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people on board and motivated by the family members because we understand how difficult this is for them as well. we are working really hard around the clock to bring our capability to bear on this search and hopefully locate the submersible.— and hopefully locate the submersible. . ,, ., submersible. talk me through the practicalities _ submersible. talk me through the practicalities because _ submersible. talk me through the practicalities because you - submersible. talk me through the practicalities because you have . submersible. talk me through the l practicalities because you have said it is a very challenging and complex task you are facing. you have two operations going on, a search on the surface and also a search underwater. and if you locate this vessel, you have then got to try and get it up. vessel, you have then got to try and net it u -. , vessel, you have then got to try and net it u. , ., vessel, you have then got to try and u-etitu. , , , get it up. there is a complex series of operations _ get it up. there is a complex series of operations which _ get it up. there is a complex series of operations which are _ get it up. there is a complex series of operations which are going - get it up. there is a complex series of operations which are going on i of operations which are going on right now and our focus is on the search because we have to do first of all locate the submersible and the people and so we have had
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aircraft flying over the area. they have searched an area that is roughly the size of the state of connecticut and if this were, if the submersible was to surface, it would be caught in the winds and over time that expanse quite dramatically —— expanse. we have calculations to look at this but we have been flying in the air with multiple aircraft. and then we have been prosecuting the subsurface search and yesterday we had remote controlled vehicles operating antidote those are the operations continue —— and today those rv operations continue and they will continue later into the night and into tomorrow morning to increase our capability. there are a lot of things at play in addition to
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that, focused on mobilising to support the search. we loaded up remote operated vehicles with container loads with more remote operated gear and we got that out to the site so there is a tremendous amount of work which goes into this but we are really focused on the search and have the right experts to prosecute the search. [30 search and have the right experts to prosecute the search.— search and have the right experts to prosecute the search. do you have a timeline for— prosecute the search. do you have a timeline for when _ prosecute the search. do you have a timeline for when you _ prosecute the search. do you have a timeline for when you think- prosecute the search. do you have a timeline for when you think oxygen l timeline for when you think oxygen will last— timeline for when you think oxygen will last on— timeline for when you think oxygen will last on the sub?— will last on the sub? based on information _ will last on the sub? based on information that _ will last on the sub? based on information that the _ will last on the sub? based on information that the operatorl information that the operator provided, they indicated they have emergency life support system on board to provide oxygen for approximately 96 hours and i
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understand that is a difficult calculation to predict because it is based on the number of occupants and their consumption. we are looking at a period of time, about 20 hours from now, into tomorrow morning, that we may be at the end of that 96 hour window. that said, we are continuing to put all available resources into their search right now and we will continue to prioritise the search as we go forward. �* u. , , prioritise the search as we go forward. �* u, , , h, prioritise the search as we go forward. �* , , ., forward. because time is so short, ou have forward. because time is so short, you have to _ forward. because time is so short, you have to game _ forward. because time is so short, you have to game plan _ forward. because time is so short, you have to game plan every - forward. because time is so short, i you have to game plan every scenario and if _ you have to game plan every scenario and if you _ you have to game plan every scenario and if you find the sub, in the next 20 hours. — and if you find the sub, in the next 20 hours, you have got to react to different _ 20 hours, you have got to react to different situations and you need to plan for— different situations and you need to plan for those now. so that you can
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do things— plan for those now. so that you can do things as — plan for those now. so that you can do things as fast as possible. we have do things as fast as possible. , have experts. while our unified command is fully focused on the search, we have experts that are working those different scenarios and we have mobilised gear on site. we have lived capability in the vessels on site now and we have additional lift capability coming in. the navy is mobilised in submerged object recovery system that they have and the canadian armed forces have mobilised a recompression chamber with medical support. we are preparing for contingencies while remaining laser focused on the search for the submersible and those people. aha, focused on the search for the submersible and those people. a few
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final questions, _ submersible and those people. a few final questions, and _ submersible and those people. a few final questions, and a _ submersible and those people. a few final questions, and a difficult question first of all, you have got so many variables, is there a chance that the sounds you have been talking about sends you in the wrong direction? this talking about sends you in the wrong direction? , , ., talking about sends you in the wrong direction? , , . . , , direction? this is an incredibly comlex direction? this is an incredibly complex search _ direction? this is an incredibly complex search to _ direction? this is an incredibly complex search to conduct. i direction? this is an incredibly| complex search to conduct. we direction? this is an incredibly - complex search to conduct. we are in over 3500 metres of water column in an area that is remote, 300 miles from newfoundland and 900 miles from my coast in cape cod. there is a lot of complexity involved, and the way we are trying to manage the complexity is by bringing in all of the data we can and that is why we have vehicles launching and we also have vehicles launching and we also have the canadian coastguard vessel on the scene which has sown a capability is to look at the bottom.
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—— sewn to the —— sonar capability. so we know we have got the experts were planning and coordinating and executing the search. ., and coordinating and executing the search. . , ., ., search. final question. how optimistic — search. final question. how optimistic are _ search. final question. how optimistic are you? - search. final question. how optimistic are you? at - search. final question. how optimistic are you? at this | search. final question. how- optimistic are you? at this point, we have to _ optimistic are you? at this point, we have to continue _ optimistic are you? at this point, we have to continue to _ optimistic are you? at this point, we have to continue to search - optimistic are you? at this point, we have to continue to search for the submersible and we had a chance to talk to the families last night about the work that we have been doing and we understand how difficult this is. we understand from the emergency life support system that there is the possibility and so we are prosecuting this to the fullness of our ability, bringing as many assets as we can to bear on this, and different assets we have been able to collect
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different information and be prepared for different contingencies as well. ., prepared for different contingencies as well. . . ., ., , as well. rear admiral, we are very crateful as well. rear admiral, we are very grateful for _ as well. rear admiral, we are very grateful for your— as well. rear admiral, we are very grateful for your time. _ as well. rear admiral, we are very grateful for your time. good - as well. rear admiral, we are very grateful for your time. good luck l grateful for your time. good luck for the remaining search. thanks for joining us. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. these paintings by ukrainian artist have a very special place in this north yorkshire art gallery. they are being proudly displayed by his daughter who finds it a comfort to showcase work by her father as well as other ukrainians and local artists. i as other ukrainians and local artists. ., as other ukrainians and local artists. . ., ., , , ., artists. i have two artists from ukraine and — artists. i have two artists from ukraine and one _ artists. i have two artists from ukraine and one is _ artists. i have two artists from ukraine and one is a _ artists. i have two artists from i ukraine and one is a professional ukrainian artist. the other is my dad. he was here for several months
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and he was talking about his art. we are devastated. i could not say that i have a free minute when i am not thinking about my country. and my parents, who are there at the moment. parents, who are there at the moment-— parents, who are there at the moment. . , ., , moment. her current exhibitions includin: moment. her current exhibitions including work _ moment. her current exhibitions including work by _ moment. her current exhibitions including work by her— moment. her current exhibitions including work by her father - moment. her current exhibitions including work by her father will| moment. her current exhibitions i including work by her father will be on display all summer long. you're live with bbc news. now to another important story. the bbc has uncovered evidence showing that hundreds of chronically sick and mentally ill patients from the windrush generation were sent back to the caribbean ? in what the government has admitted was an "historic injustice". legal experts say the practice may have been unlawful — and the families of those affected are calling for an inquiry. our correspondent navtej johal has the story. i never had a father. i never had a father figure in my life.
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when she was just eight—years—old, june's father, joseph armatrading, vanished from her life. he had arrived in britain from st kitts in 1954 as part of the windrush generation. he had a wife and five daughters, but he was in a hospital struggling with his mental health. and in 1966, her mother told them that he had gone back home, never to be seen by them again. i did feel, and i still do, we was abandoned. we were left. it's a massive, big heart break. because you just think...why me? we're about to showjune documents that will transform her understanding of her own life. really sad because... oh, sorry. they reveal thatjoseph armatrading was repatriated to st kitts on mental health grounds. but, upon arrival, he wrote to the uk government that he wanted
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to return to his family. in internal letters, officials admit mistakes were made in his case and that he should be allowed to return. but he never did. it's an emotional discovery for june, who's never known any of this. i'm still shocked now. i'm upset. it's upsetting. it's really upsetting to know that. how dare they? this was a vulnerable man. you're supposed to look after your vulnerable people. and they didn't, theyjust left him. they abandoned him. joseph's was one of many cases where mentally ill patients were repatriated to the caribbean. using documents stored in the national archives, for the first time, we can show the extent of how many of the windrush generation were repatriated in the i950s, �*60s and �*70s.
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our findings show more than 400 chronically sick and mentally ill patients were sent back to the caribbean. and evidence suggests it wasn't always for their benefit. government documents from the i960s show that people likejune's dad should only have been repatriated if they wanted to return, if their doctor felt it would benefit their health, and if there were resources there to look after them. but this letterfrom the jamaican high commission says hospital authorities were trying to send patients back largely due to pressure on beds, giving the impression that this was being done regardless of whether adequate treatment was available. the windrush generation had the same legal status as someone born in the uk. lawyerjacqueline mckenzie has represented hundreds of victims of the windrush scandal. she and other experts we've spoken to questioned the legality of the repatriations.
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we do not know the full extent of it and how many thousands of people may be affected, in terms of children and grandchildren of some of the people who went. the state now owes it to the descendants of people who were affected to provide them with answers and some sort of redress. she and june are now calling for an inquiry into these repatriations. in a statement, a government spokesperson said: but forjune, she's still left with the question of what happened to her father. they've left us lost.
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i'm a lost girl looking for answers. navteonhal, bbc news. we can now speak tojulia, the granddaughter. how did the family react when you saw those letters? it was overwhelming and deeply emotional to everybody involved. nevertheless, because my mother had been searching for the whole of her aduu been searching for the whole of her adult life to find her father and find what happened and to find the truth for her and it really consumed her whole life. any ruin of any family causes a lack of security,
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emotional, and traumatise asian of the whole family. —— and traumatise the whole family. —— and traumatise the whole family. you the whole family. -- and traumatise the whole family.— the whole family. you spoke about our the whole family. you spoke about your mother. _ the whole family. you spoke about your mother, and _ the whole family. you spoke about your mother, and one _ the whole family. you spoke about your mother, and one of— the whole family. you spoke about your mother, and one of the - the whole family. you spoke about your mother, and one of the most| your mother, and one of the most devastating facts in a series of devastating facts in a series of devastating facts in a series of devastating facts was that the family thought that he had simply abandoned them.— family thought that he had simply abandoned them. yes, yes. for my mother, abandoned them. yes, yes. for my mother. she _ abandoned them. yes, yes. for my mother, she always _ abandoned them. yes, yes. for my mother, she always felt _ abandoned them. yes, yes. for my mother, she always felt a - abandoned them. yes, yes. for my mother, she always felt a sense i abandoned them. yes, yes. for my mother, she always felt a sense of| mother, she always felt a sense of abandonment and a loss of identity which was prevalent throughout her life and she did not know where she belonged. she was a very strong and courageous woman, but she was still a little girl wanting herfather. we felt that and the ramifications of that as her children. in felt that and the ramifications of that as her children.— that as her children. in terms of what ou that as her children. in terms of what you think _ that as her children. in terms of what you think needs _ that as her children. in terms of what you think needs to - that as her children. in terms of what you think needs to happen j that as her children. in terms of- what you think needs to happen now, take me through it. figs what you think needs to happen now, take me through it.— take me through it. as you heard from my aunt. — take me through it. as you heard from my aunt, we _ take me through it. as you heard from my aunt, we are _ take me through it. as you heard from my aunt, we are open - take me through it. as you heard from my aunt, we are open to i take me through it. as you heard from my aunt, we are open to an inquiry into what happened and how this was allowed to happen because
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it is only when you know the truth that survivors of these things can heal and accountability can start to happen. the government needs to be accountable for the decimation and the destruction of families. and what that caused and the impact it had. it spreads and goes across generations will top the windrush generations will top the windrush generation is notjust a generation of the windrush, they were largely marginalised and traumatised people. i will come back to that in a moment but you said you want to find out more about how this happened. in terms of what you know so far, given that this particular development was under the guise of mental health, there's the whole issue about those affected, whether they understood and whether they have the capacity to resist what was actually happening to them at the time. yes. happening to them at the time. yes, there's a stigma _ happening to them at the time. yes
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there's a stigma attached to mental health as it is, and when you incorporate that with the windrush generation, it shuts down the whole conversation that needs to happen because of the stigma attached and people are scared to talk. and open the discussion. a lot of them were in the dark and nobody knew the truth. ., ., ,., ., , ., truth. tell me more about what you would like the _ truth. tell me more about what you would like the government - truth. tell me more about what you would like the government to i would like the government to actually do and you said you wanted an inquiry about the government have been so heavily criticised in terms of the way they have handled the windrush scandal to date around compensation and everything that has been so delayed and contested, what is your hope with this particular aspect to it?— is your hope with this particular asect to it? ,., ., , ., ., aspect to it? personally, i want to know what — aspect to it? personally, i want to know what happened _ aspect to it? personally, i want to know what happened to _ aspect to it? personally, i want to know what happened to my - know what happened to my grandfather, first and foremost. i can speak for my aunt as well, we need to know. we all need to know what happened. and why they felt abandoned and where isjoseph armatrading? we don't know where he
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is a we do not know what happened to him. in an inquiry we can get to the truth and that is the beginning, thatis truth and that is the beginning, that is all we can ask for, to open an inquiry into the truth so that there is accountability and some healing can begin for the family. and otherfamilies healing can begin for the family. and other families involved. healing can begin for the family. and otherfamilies involved. find and other families involved. and compensation? _ and other families involved. and compensation? well, _ and other families involved. and compensation? well, yes, i compensation? well, yes, reparations, _ compensation? well, yes, reparations, and - compensation? well, yes, i reparations, and compensation, because can you ever compensate the loss of your whole identity and your father and what happened to him? i don't know, but that would be the beginning of something. yes. aha, don't know, but that would be the beginning of something. yes. a quick cuestion, beginning of something. yes. a quick question. you — beginning of something. yes. a quick question, you talked _ beginning of something. yes. a quick question, you talked about _ beginning of something. yes. a quick question, you talked about identity i question, you talked about identity and the long lasting effect for all the family including yourself, so a brief 30 seconds on how that has impacted you? mr; brief 30 seconds on how that has impacted you?— brief 30 seconds on how that has imacted ou? g ., ,, impacted you? my mother spent her whole life searching _ impacted you? my mother spent her whole life searching so _ impacted you? my mother spent her whole life searching so it _ impacted you? my mother spent her whole life searching so it was - whole life searching so it was something which concerned that the meggatt consumed her whole life so it affected us as children —— it was
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something which consumed her whole life. my mum sadly passed away. i saw the documentation myself but my mum was too ill to take that news on board so i will continue searching for the news and the truth because she has now sadly passed away along with my other aunt. judg. she has now sadly passed away along with my other aunt.— with my other aunt. judy, we have not to with my other aunt. judy, we have got to leave _ with my other aunt. judy, we have got to leave it _ with my other aunt. judy, we have got to leave it there _ with my other aunt. judy, we have got to leave it there but _ with my other aunt. judy, we have got to leave it there but thanks i with my other aunt. judy, we havej got to leave it there but thanks for joining us ——julia. got to leave it there but thanks for joining us -- julia._ we | joining us -- julia. thank you. we are auoin joining us -- julia. thank you. we are going to _ joining us -- julia. thank you. we are going to take _ joining us -- julia. thank you. we are going to take a _ joining us -- julia. thank you. we are going to take a break - joining us -- julia. thank you. we are going to take a break but i joining us -- julia. thank you. we are going to take a break but the | joining us -- julia. thank you. we i are going to take a break but the us coast guard is going to do another press conference at six o'clock uk time. a man leading the search thought the submersible has another 20 hours of oxygen left. we will have more of that interview on the programme in a moment or two. good afternoon.
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today isjune 2ist, summer solstice. it's when daylight hours seem to go on forever. and if we take a look at this chart, they're pretty impressive. many of us seeing sunrise just before 5:00 and not setting until after 9:30, 10:00. so, most of us will see 17 hours of daylight today. enjoy, if you can. we've got some showers around, most frequent and widespread the further north and west in scotland and northern ireland, but some through wales and south west close to glastonbury as well. and these are likely to threaten on and off throughout the afternoon. some places will stay dry and if you've got that sunshine, you've also got that warmth once again, with temperatures peaking at 25 degrees, 77 fahrenheit. now, through the night, those temperatures will fall away. not going to be quite as humid as the nightjust past. so thursday morning, we start off in single figures in scotland, around 13 or iii degrees for england and wales. there'll be a lot of dry weather around first thing in the morning
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and then the risk of some showers but in a different place, perhaps across northeast england, down towards east anglia and the east midlands. some of those showers could be heavy and thundery. if you dodge them, we could see a warmer day, 27 degrees. that's up to 80 fahrenheit. that bodes well if you're putting up the tent at glastonbury on thursday. lots of sunshine around, increasing humidity as we go through the weekend, risk maybe of a shower on sunday. but it's a pretty promising forecast and that's because we've got this high pressure down to the south. now, weather fronts are trying to topple across that high. so at times, they will bring outbreaks of rain across the far north and west. so, on friday we might see cloudier conditions gradually developing down through england and wales, perhaps the best of the sunshine in south east england. but some of this rain a little bit further north and west could be heavy. so a little bit fresher, low 20s as a maximum here, 25 degrees in the southeast corner. we keep that heat and humidity because we've got this high pressure dragging in the south—westerly flow, but low pressure never too far away. so, if we put the weather fronts on,
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