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the commander leading the effort tells this programme the missing sub may have less than 20 hours of oxygen remaining. a period of time about 20 hours from now into tomorrow morning that we may be at the end of that 96 hour window. i may be at the end of that 96 hour window. . g , , u, may be at the end of that 96 hour window. . g , , ., ~ window. i am jessica parker live from boston _ window. i am jessica parker live from boston where _ window. i am jessica parker live from boston where the - window. i am jessica parker live from boston where the search l window. i am jessica parker live| from boston where the search is being coordinated, most of the vessels now heading to help with that search. this is a seen live in paris where four people are in critical condition after a blast. will bring you the latest on that story. uk inflation remains higher than expected, fuelling expectation
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of a rice. why is the uk economy not snowing like other economies? hello, i'm matthew amroliwala, welcome to verified live, 3 hours of breaking stories, and checking out the truth behind them. we'll go to paris with the explosion and fire that we heard about earlier, it's a gas explosion but more details coming on all the time. initially city officials were talking about the fires, and we were seeing the pictures and apologies that the pictures are just flying around but these are life pictures coming from central pollys and that whole area is cordoned off. i am watching these pictures and they are still dealing with buildings that are on fire right there in the centre of the city. and let me tell
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you the latest that we are hearing from the mayor of that fifth district in central paris because he adjustments she has just been speaking and said that for people are in critical condition after this explosion occurred in their fifth district here in paris and you can see from the number of ambulances and emergency vehicles, it is a mess operation still ongoing there. they have been eyewitnesses speaking and said it was like hearing a little earthquake. at the moment the explosion happened. we also had accounts of areas of buildings collapsing there onto the streets. you see the hoses still being trained onto those buildings, so that operation is really still ongoing. that first, really broke the news only about 30 minutes ago so there still in the early stages of dealing with all of this and you
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can see the police, very much there in large numbers. they were seen in one of their twitter feeds earlier asking the publicjust to stay away from this whole area was the police deal with the situation. those are some of the latest pictures coming to us, that fire still looks they are doing with it, but more details with the number of casualties. let me just repeat that. for people in a critical condition in hospital after that explosion. we don't know about others that have been injured but those emergency services still there on the scene dealing with this for something so, there was some of the life pictures and we will keep an eye on that when there is more detailed, more picture, more facts from the authorities. the mayor speaking earlier and we might hear from the police as well. we will come away for now and will turn to it when we hear more later on.
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we turn to the race against time to find the submersible with five people onboard — including a teenager — that went missing on a mission to explore the wreck of the titanic. the us coast guard admiral has told the bbc that the sub may run out of emergency oxygen 20 hours from now. earlier us coastguards confirmed that �*underwater noises' have been detected — the sounds were picked up by a canadian aircraft — according to one report, there was a banging noise at 30 minute intervals — but searches so far, have produced no results. let's hear that interview with rear admiraljohn maugher from the us coast guard — he was speaking to me and our science correspondentjon amos. we are looking at a period of time about 20 hours from now into tomorrow morning that we may be at the end of that 96 hour window. that
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said, we are continuing to put all available resources into the search right now and we will continue to prioritise the search as we go forward. ., forward. the full interview about ten or 12 minutes _ forward. the full interview about ten or 12 minutes long _ forward. the full interview about ten or 12 minutes long and - forward. the full interview about ten or 12 minutes long and will l forward. the full interview about i ten or 12 minutes long and will play that in foilfor you in ten or 12 minutes long and will play that in foil for you in about ten minutes, so stay with us. it's a fascinating interview with his insights and the mechanics as to what he's done with. the enormity and complexity of this search operation. here's a reminder of the timeline. the passengers left canada's newfoundland last friday on a ship that was carrying the sub.
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they paid $250,000 each for the trip. the four men and a teenager travelled more than 650 kilometres to the site of the titanic, and began their dive on sunday morning, at around 8am local time. it was supposed to last no more than eight hours — seated in very cramped conditions. but the sub lost contact with the ship after an one hour and 45 minutes — there was enough oxygen to last a total of 96 hours. the alarm was raised with the coastguard — at 5.45 on sunday evening. live now to boston and our correspondentjessica parker. jessica, what are you hearing about the latest in terms of the way this search is being developed, expanded, focus upon? just the hardware that is being flung at it? it is focus upon? just the hardware that is being flung at it?— is being flung at it? it is becoming bi aer and is being flung at it? it is becoming bigger and more — is being flung at it? it is becoming bigger and more international - is being flung at it? it is becoming bigger and more international all i bigger and more international all the time. the latest update that we have had from the coastguard is your interview on bbc news a short time ago, and i think a couple important points that clearly it could only be 20 hours of oxygen left on the sub.
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the confirmation that his noises, plural, that they think they have picked up with a sonar technology, even though they don't know the source of it. they are obviously now focusing their search in that area. in terms of the hardware. multiple vessels are en route. a canadian boat that has sonar capabilities and another canadian vessel that has communications and navigational equipment, also one that has search and rescue capabilities. 0ne equipment, also one that has search and rescue capabilities. one of the things that we've seen increasingly is our 0bs, remotely operated vehicles, unmanned robots that can dive into the water and look underneath the water for any signs of the missing vessel and mixing with a sonar capabilities, they are monitoring what is going on under the surface. in addition to that, they also have aeroplanes flying around in the sky, deployed from the us and canada, looking at the
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surface of the water in case the vessel has actually managed to re—emerge. it's a huge operation, always happening 900 miles off the coast here of the northeast of america, just over 400 miles from newfoundland in canada. a remote area which presents its own challenges. area which presents its own challenges-_ area which presents its own challenges. area which presents its own challenues. ~ ., , ., challenges. we will leave you there for now jessica _ challenges. we will leave you there for now jessica and _ challenges. we will leave you there for now jessica and will— challenges. we will leave you there for now jessica and will return - challenges. we will leave you there for now jessica and will return in i for nowjessica and will return in the next little while. we are expecting the latest news conference in about 50 minutes there and would acquire or carry that live on the programme. we were referencing their rear admiral talking about as a bit more oxygen than previously been spoken about, perhaps the around 20 hours. if) spoken about, perhaps the around 20 hours. :: ., , , ., ., ., hours. 20 hours is not long and that takes us to — hours. 20 hours is not long and that takes us to just _ hours. 20 hours is not long and that takes us to just before _ hours. 20 hours is not long and that takes us to just before midday - hours. 20 hours is not long and that takes us to just before midday gmt| takes us to just before midday gmt tomorrow so early in the morning,
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east coast. they are under a lots of pressure to try and find out where the subbase. we are hopeful that the sounds, these underwater noises that they have detected will enable them to narrow the search for this submarine type, this six or seven metre long submersible with the five individuals tucked inside. we hope the signals are real and that it will enable the search forces at the surface of the ocean to be able to use that to geo locates, to narrow down, where they might be on the sea floor. this is a schematic care, so not to scale the sub considered this for a moment. the titanic on the ocean floor. the bow and stern are separated by 800 metres and those became separated and went down. it's an enormous debris field around the whole of wreck the sub so where is
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oursub, right? it's whole of wreck the sub so where is our sub, right? it's a whole of wreck the sub so where is oursub, right? it's a big search area as a rear admiral was explaining to us. very complex to pick their where through and find the sub on the floor, if it is lying on the floor. how will they use those sounds? if they are for real, and we stressed, if they are for real, may be the occupants of the sub are talking typing away. tapping away at time intervals and any patterned fashion as well. what they can is use various listening devices on the surface and by timing the receipt of the toppings at different devices, there will be able to get a surer fix devices, there will be able to get a surerfix on where devices, there will be able to get a surer fix on where the sub may be on the sea floor. then they can send out a remotely operated vehicle to go into a search box and look for interesting targets. as we have said, matthew, time is of the essence now and they have to game plan. we were talking to the rear admiral there and they have to think
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now about all of the possible scenarios as to why that sub, if it is on the sea floor, why it is on the condition that it is and come up with a solution as to how to deal with a solution as to how to deal with that. maybe, oursub, let's with a solution as to how to deal with that. maybe, our sub, let's go back there, may be our sub has not been able to release the weights that would normally allow it to look to the surface. could and remotely operated vehicle going and cut something that allow the way to down and i the sub to go back up. maybe it stuck in some titanic wreckage. the rop cut it free? maybe it's lost some sort of buoyancy. could it be attached to the titanic submersible to get it up. they have to think through all of those scenarios and game plan scenarios as to how they would react. game plan scenarios as to how they would react-— would react. john amos in the newsroom- — would react. john amos in the newsroom. let _ would react. john amos in the newsroom. let me _ would react. john amos in the
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newsroom. let me show - would react. john amos in the newsroom. let me show you i would react. john amos in the i newsroom. let me show you the would react. john amos in the - newsroom. let me show you the live pictures from newfoundland and st. john's bay because were getting a variety of fragments of information from the usaid and the canadian site in terms of the search and rescue with so much being thrown at the mechanics of how they actually search a huge area the site and state of connecticut. we'll keep an eye of that and we had the news conference in boston coming up in about 45 minutes i'm here on verified life, in the next few minutes, will pay you that interview with rear admiraljohn maugher, it lots of interesting and fascinating information from him. we will pay you that in a moment or two. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's take a look at some other stories making news in the uk. the latest uk inflation figures have
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offered no respite for households struggling with the cost of living, with the rate that prices are rising remaining stable in may, at 8.7%. while rate of food inflation had eased, it was offset by rises in costs of goods such as computer games and plane tickets. 0ne government adviser told the bbc that the bank of england might have to spark a recession to get inflation under control. marks & spencer, wh smith and argos are among dozens of well—known companies named forfailing to pay the minimum wage. an investigation, looking at payments over the past 16 years, found that almost five million pounds was owed to 63 thousand workers. wh smith, marks & spencer and argos said the breaches were unintentional and had already been remedied. people have gathered to celebrate the summer solstice celebrations at stonehenge. let me take you straight
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back to paris. those are the pictures. you can still see the smoke rising off buildings there as they continue to deal with that emergency. the news being updated all of the time the step i'm hearing just as i go to these pictures that now 16 people are said to be injured, including seven who are in critical condition. so, an update from the authorities there because they had said for in critical condition on the about ten minutes ago but we are now here in seven people including critical condition. 16 people in all have been injured and is quite possible the numbers will go up and you can see some of the debris there, just a huge wooden beam and we heard from some witnesses how the friends of some of the buildings had collapsed down and if you look really carefully there, just to the right of the fire engine, you can see the debris of the blocks presumably which were the
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friends of that building, i think i'm seen that correctly. certainly a lots of debris and that would fit with the number of people that have been injured here. so, a major incident there in the centre of paris and the mayor of that district has been speaking, the police have been seeking, urging the public to stay away from that area because you can see that operation, it is still nowhere near being concluded. we saw the hose pipes trained on the building only a little while ago as that fire team on the ground continue to work there in. mac and just pause to see some of the smoke there and you can see the front of that building which seems to be the focus of the blast and there it is still with smoke emerging. you can see the missing part of that part of
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the building on the side of it. you can see the whole part of that building is missing, so this explosion, and very quickly authorities saying it's was a gas explosion and so there is no talk of any terror motive or anything like that. very quickly, the authorities confirm and it was the result of a gas explosion but it is clearly a major explosion and incident with the number of casualties rising all the number of casualties rising all the time. so, we'll come away from those pictures and though some of the latest life pictures and life details but if there are updates we would obviously return straight a week to paris. earlier i spoke to out science correspondentjonathon amos and rear admiraljohn maugher from the us coast guard, we started by getting an updates
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about the situation. this has been a very complex and difficult case for everyone. as we continue to actively search for this submersible and the people on board, our thoughts are with the crew members and their families who i can imagine are having a very difficult time. we are working very hard in a unified command structure with us government agencies including the us navy, with canadian agencies including the canadian armed forces and the coastguard, and then also with private sector entities including the 0ceangate expedition. we are focused on bringing all assets to bear on this search for the submersible. this has happened in a remote
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location of the coastline of cape cod by 900 miles. location of the coastline we have prioritised a surface search and then a subsurface search so we have two vessels remotely operated that are conducting a subsurface search and we have aircraft and a service that immigrate surface vessel during the surface search —— and a surface vessel doing the surface search. let us talk about that noise that was picked up. it is standard practice to bang on the top of the hull at the top of the hour. with the noises that were detected was it a one—off or any pattern detected? we are working closely with leading acoustic experts in the us navy and the canadian navy and i have integrated a uk submariner
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into my command in boston thanks to the support from the uk council general in boston. to make sure that we have the expertise that we need to understand what that noise signature is and what it is telling us. while the analysis is going on, we are not waiting to a target remote vehicle, the solar noise that is being generated, so we have relocated the remote operated vehicles on site to search in those areas but at this time i do not have any confirmation of the noise and what it is. to be clear, was it a one off or something persistent?
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the p—3 aircraft have been flying and dropping sonar buoys and we have picked up noise signature is on them and we are working through the analytics on that and already targeting the remote operating vehicles to search in those areas. you said plural signatures. so you heard something, more than once? the sonar buoys picked up a number of noises and so we are looking at all of the information coming in through them to understand what that is but we are re—targeting the on scene assets to focus on those areas. it was sufficiently interesting for you to say, we need to narrow the search over here to go and investigate? this is a really complex
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search and rescue case. my lead prosecutor's title for this is the search and rescue mission coordinator, a reflection that we do not have all of the assets and expertise to prosecute a complex search like this so we have brought in a unified command team of experts from the us navy and the canadian navy, from other agencies, to understand and act on the information that is available to us. let me ask you, in terms of a human level, what is it like, given what is at stake, and the time pressures you are working under? 0ur crews, the women and men
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who are working the response, who are coordinating search and rescue and logistics operations, they are just doing an amazing job across both the us coast guard and the canadian coastguard and the us navy and canadian armed forces and in the private industry, the commercial operators that have deployed on the same, it is really remarkable, their efforts. they are motivated by the hope to find the submersible and the people on board and motivated by the family members because we understand how difficult this is for them as well. we are working really hard around the clock to bring our capability to bear on this search and hopefully locate the submersible. talk me through the practicalities
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because you have said it is a very challenging and complex task you are facing. you have two operations going on, a search on the surface and also a search underwater. and if you locate this vessel, you have then got to try and get it up. there is a complex series of operations which are going on right now and ourfocus is on the search because we have to first of all locate the submersible and the people and so we have had aircraft flying over the area. they have searched an area that is roughly the size of the state of connecticut and if this were, if the submersible was to surface, it would be caught in the winds and over time that
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expands quite dramatically. we have calculations to look at this but we have been flying in the air with multiple aircraft. and then we have been prosecuting the subsurface search and yesterday we had remote controlled vehicles operating antidote those we had remote controlled vehicles operating and today those rv operations continue and they will continue later into the night and into tomorrow morning to increase our capability. there are a lot of things at play in addition to that, focused on mobilising to support the search. we loaded up remote operated vehicles with container loads with more remote operated gear and we got that out to the site so there is a tremendous amount of work which goes into this but we are really focused on the search and have the right
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experts to prosecute the search. do you have a timeline for when you think oxygen will last on the sub? based on information that the operator provided, they indicated they have emergency life support system on board to provide oxygen for approximately 96 hours and i understand that is a difficult calculation to predict because it is based on the number of occupants and their consumption. we are looking at a period of time, about 20 hours from now, into tomorrow morning, that we may be at the end of that 96 hour window.
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that said, we are continuing to put all available resources into their search right now and we will continue to prioritise the search as we go forward. because time is so short, you have to game plan every scenario and if you find the sub, in the next 20 hours, you have got to react to different situations and you need to plan for those now. if it's like this, this is how we react, — if it's like this, this is how we react, if— if it's like this, this is how we react, if it's _ if it's like this, this is how we react, if it's like that, this is how— react, if it's like that, this is how we _ react, if it's like that, this is how we react. so that you can do things as fast as possible. we have experts. while our unified command is fully focused on the search, we have experts that are working those different scenarios and we have mobilised gear on site. we have lived capability
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in the vessels on site now and we have additional lift capability coming in. the navy is mobilised a submerged object recovery system that they have, and the canadian armed forces have mobilised a recompression chamber with medical support. we are preparing for contingencies while remaining laser focused on the search for the submersible and those people. rear admiral, a few final questions, and a difficult question first of all, you have got so many variables, is there a chance that the sounds you have been talking about sends you in the wrong direction? this is an incredibly complex search to conduct. we are in over 3500 metres of water
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column in an area that is remote, 300 miles from newfoundland and 900 miles from my coast in cape cod. there is a lot of complexity involved, and the way we are trying to manage the complexity is by bringing in all of the data we can and that is why we have vehicles launching and we also have the canadian coastguard vessel on the scene which has sown have the canadian coastguard vessel on the scene which has sonar capability is to look at the bottom. so we are trying to use all these options. so we know we have got the experts were planning and coordinating and executing the search. final question. how optimistic are you?
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at this point, we have to continue to search for the submersible and we had a chance to talk to the families last night about the work that we have been doing and we understand how difficult this is. we understand from the emergency life support system that there is the possibility and so we are prosecuting this to the fullness of our ability, bringing as many assets as we can to bear on this, and different assets we have been able to collect different information and be prepared for different contingencies as well. that was rear admiraljohn maugher talking to us early on the programme. we have a live news conference from the us coast guard coming up in about 30 minutes' time and we will carry that live on the programme on bbc news. this is bbc news, the headlines. underwater noises become a focus in the search a submersible missing
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near the wreck of the titanic. after gas people have been injured after a gas explosion caused a building to collapse in the centre of the city. president zelensky addresses world leaders about ukraine's economic future as the uk, us and others announced billions of dollars more in support.

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