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board, the sub suffered a killed on board, the sub suffered a catastrophic implosion. uk bank bosses are summoned over mortgages after the bank of england raised interest rates to 5%. and the destruction left behind after the kakhovka dam burst in southern ukraine — we'll bring you a special report. hello, i'm lucy grey. we start in the united states and the deaths of five men on the titan subsmersible. the co—founder of oceangate, the firm that built and operated the submersible, has rejected claims that it cut corners. guillermo sohnlein, who left the firm ten years ago, told the bbc that the craft was 1a years in development and went through rigorous safety checks. tributes have been paid to the five men killed on board the sub. among them, were the former french navy diver and renowned explorer paul—henri nargeolet and the ceo of oceangate, stockton rush. the family of the british explorer, hamish harding said he was a loving husband,
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a dedicated father and a legend who lived for his next adventure. relatives of the british businessman shahzada dawood and his 19—year—old son suleman described their unimaginable loss. the us navy has said it detected sounds consistent with an implosion shortly after the sub lost contact. search teams found debris from the sub thousands of metres below the surface. the discovery ended an international five—day search for the submersible, which had been on a voyage to the wreck of the titanic. the director of the 1997 film titanic, james cameron, who is also an expert on deep sea exploration, says further regulation of the submersible industry may be needed. he's been speaking to our science editor, rebecca morelle. you've been down to the titanic wreck site many times. i mean, you've been even deeper. you did the first solo dive to the bottom of the mariana trench. you came out and saw my sub before i made that dive, and i took
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you through the whole... you even sat inside it. so you kind of know what it feels like to be inside. and that sub went to three times titanic depth, quite literally. safely, i'd like to point out. you know, when people go down to a place like titanic as, let's call it a citizen explorer, right? i don't like "tourist". i think somebody that's willing to spend that kind of money and do that kind of preparation and devote weeks of their life, they're a citizen explorer. they shouldn't have to worry about the vehicle that they're in. worry about titanic because it's a dangerous site for entanglement and collapse, you could have a structural collapse on the sub and it's a very dangerous site. but understand the risks. agree to those risks. but don't be in a situation where you haven't been told about the risks of the actual platform that you're diving in. in the 21st century, there shouldn't be any risk.
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we've managed to make it through 60 years, from 1960 until today, 63 years without a fatality. and most people don't know this. no fatalities, no major accidents in deep submergence. there were a couple of fatalities with very shallow operating subs in the late �*60s. but that's longer ago than the time from the wright brothers at kitty hawk to the first 747s flying. so you can imagine there's been a lot of development in between. so, you know, one of the saddest aspects of this is how preventable it really was, you know, and that to me is the greatest heartbreak of the whole thing. well, i wanted to ask about that because, i mean, you know a lot of about submersibles, having designed your own one, but safety concerns had been raised with... absolutely. and they should be raised.
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they should be raised, because they cut corners. they used unproven experimental technology on a sub that took passengers. and to me, that's inexcusable. and they were uncertified. and they knew that the certification process would not approve the technologies that they adopted. i think it's fine to be an innovator. you know, the sub that you sat in, that we built and that i operated to the deepest place on the planet, was an experimental craft. i own it. it was not certified. it was an experimental craft, just like, you know, the mercury and gemini and apollo rockets were experimental craft. they weren't certified, but they weren't taking passengers either. you know, i think the second that you create a business model around asking people for $250,000 to take them to some place, you have to ensure their safety, you have to jump through every possible hoop and you have to listen to the consensus in the engineering community.
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i would submit that there's a terrible irony here. here we have, at the wreck of titanic, we now have another wreck that is based on, unfortunately, the same principles of not heeding warnings. 0ceangate were warned — they had people working internally, apparently, that basically quit. they had... some of us, i wasn't involved directly, but there were some of us in the deep submergence community that got together and wrote a letter to them saying, "we believe that you are going on a path to catastrophe." that's a rough quote — something like that. and we all have a concern here because it will be a setback for the deep submergence community because of this, because of the, you know, the let's call it poor choices. i don't want to say reckless, but let's say poor choices that were made.
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now, as we mentioned earlier, the co—founder of 0ceangate, the firm that built and operate,the titan submersible — has rejected claims that it cut corners. guillermo sonhelm left 0ceangate ten years ago. he's been speaking to the bbc. the innovation outpaces the regulations and oftentimes, 0ne one of the issues that keeps coming up one of the issues that keeps coming up is that people keep equating certification with safety and are ignoring the 14 years of development of the titan sub. any expert who weighs in on this, including mr cameron, will also admit they were not there for the design of the sub, the engineering, the building of the sub and not the rigorous test programme the sub went through. this was a 14 year testing programme that it went through and like any successful science expeditions to the titanic over the last three years. let's cross live now
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to the newsroom and our science correspondent, jonathan amos. where do you think the investigation may focus? it where do you think the investigation ma focus? ., ., ~' where do you think the investigation ma focus? ., ., ~ ., may focus? it will look at the debfis may focus? it will look at the debris to _ may focus? it will look at the debris to find _ may focus? it will look at the debris to find out _ may focus? it will look at the debris to find out what - may focus? it will look at the | debris to find out what caused may focus? it will look at the - debris to find out what caused this tragedy. this is a picture of the sub in the workshop, the parts they found on the sea floor, they found this landing frame that holds it steady on a flat surface. they found this pointy bit, the after cover, and they also found both of the titanium end caps, this one has a porthole but at there's another of those just here at the aft end. the investigation will focus on the central part, because that is made from carbon fibre, an unusual material to be using in a deep submersible. they will be trying to get hold of the debris to try and understand where some sort of flow
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may have occurred in the construction of this vessel, it such that the enormous pressures that exist at depth, something like 400 times what we experience at the surface of the earth, pushing in on this vehicle, causing it to implode. let me take you live to the northwest atlantic, this is the search area, we have transponders on the various ships, this data is a tracking system and we can see some of the ships still in the search area at the moment. we have the horizon arctic at the moment is, the one that put down the rop that found the debris. we have a us coast guard vessel and a french ship which also has an rop, and it will be important to pick up those debris pieces in the next few days if they can. video to show you this, this big map of all the global internet, where the
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cables go that bring the data traffic across from europe into north america, and you can see how important geo strategically at this area is off the canadian coast. this is where the us may be have hydrophone is, that they listen, they may have found the event on sunday. they may have found the event on sunda . ~ , ., �* they may have found the event on sunda . ~ �* they may have found the event on sunda . ~ ,, �* ,., ., ., sunday. where you're pointing to now is international _ sunday. where you're pointing to now is international waters _ sunday. where you're pointing to now is international waters and _ sunday. where you're pointing to now is international waters and the - is international waters and the people who were on board were all different nationalities, so i suppose the question is, who will be leading this investigation? that’s leading this investigation? that's an interesting _ leading this investigation? that's an interesting question, - leading this investigation? that's an interesting question, and - leading this investigation? that's an interesting question, and the | an interesting question, and the titanic is a good example here — when the titanic went down, it too went down in international waters, beyond the exclusive economic zone of both canada and the united states. on that occasion, both united states and britain set up ports of inquiry and some of the
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recommendations that came out affect shipping today. there is minimum standards, a treaty which sets minimum standards for design, construction, testing and operation of merchant shipping. across the entire globe today, obviously you have to be a treaty signature to follow it and enforce it, but it is there. but there is nothing for human deep submersible is in this instance and that industry is going to have a pause for thought, an inflection moment to think how do they go forward as well.— inflection moment to think how do they go forward as well. here in the uk, banks and building societies are to meet chancellorjeremy hunt to discuss the upheaval in the mortgage market. it comes after the bank of england raised interest rates to 5%, the highest level in 15 years, as it tries to tackle persistently high inflation. the government and lenders are under pressure to do more to help those struggling with rising mortgage rates. we go live now to our political correspondent leila nathoo, who joins us from westminster.
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what could they do, what have they been discussing today? this meeting is about the government _ been discussing today? this meeting is about the government are - been discussing today? this meeting is about the government are trying i is about the government are trying to show it is doing something. it's having conversations with mortgage provider. there's no compulsion, that have already been discussions between the government and lenders in december so this isjust between the government and lenders in december so this is just a between the government and lenders in december so this isjust a bit between the government and lenders in december so this is just a bit of a follow—up to that meeting. there's no demand or compulsion from the banks to do anything but there's going to be discussion about ways to try and make it easier for people who are facing increased mortgage patents. there's talk about making it easier for people to extend their terms, are making it easier to move on to interest only mortgages, but we will to have to wait to see what the outcome of that meeting is. but it is the government trying to show its doing something. they have resisted calls for some within the conservative party for help with
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mortgage interest relief, so any big government intervention has been ruled out for the moment by the chancellor and prime minister rishi sunak, basically not wanting to do anything that could itself stoke inflation. they're very clear that the priority in their eyes is getting inflation down, although inflation is having a knock—on effect on high interest rates and therefore hitting people's pockets. they do not want to do anything as the government to make that worse. the message with has repeatedly from the prime minister is that inflation is the shared enemy, as he puts it, are making everyone poorer. so it is not likely that all the anything massively tangible that comes out of this meeting today but the government are saying, we are having conversations here but for the moment rolling out big interventions.- moment rolling out big interventions. , ., ., .,~ interventions. they want to make sure that if _ interventions. they want to make sure that if any _ interventions. they want to make sure that if any help _ interventions. they want to make sure that if any help is _ interventions. they want to make sure that if any help is given - interventions. they want to make sure that if any help is given to i sure that if any help is given to people that you do have mortgages
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that it doesn't then affect their credit rating afterwards.- that it doesn't then affect their credit rating afterwards. that's a consideration _ credit rating afterwards. that's a consideration and _ credit rating afterwards. that's a consideration and there - credit rating afterwards. that's a consideration and there is - credit rating afterwards. that's a consideration and there is a - credit rating afterwards. that's a consideration and there is a lot l credit rating afterwards. that's a| consideration and there is a lot of nervousness about people moving onto different deals. there will be people who are particularly vulnerable and at risk of moving into every possession category. i'm sure there will be discussion about that but the main message at the moment is trying to reassure people who are having to come out of fixed terms and remortgage at much higher rates that there are options for them, they don't have to carry on in this way and instead are options instead ofjust biting the bullet and facing those bigger payments. i think the main message from the government is that their hands are tied in their eyes, they're very much depending on the bank of england and interest rate rises to try to filter through into the economy and bring down inflation and they are hoping that it will come down pump about the prime minister has made a promise to halt inflation
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from around 10% at the start of the year, it down to 5% by the end of the year. obviously, that's looking increasingly difficult given what inflation is in the uk but they are banking on the fact that interest rate rises will feed into the economy and bring inflation down and then in the medium—term inflation rates can start to come down. for the moment is, there is concern about people facing high mortgage payment but not a lot the government can do at this point. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's take a look at some other stories making headlines across the uk. what is thought to be the longest single period of industrial action in the history of the health service will be undertaken byjunior doctors in england next month. the five—day walk—out will take place between thursday the 13th ofjuly and tuesday the 18th ofjuly. a 43—year—old man has been charged with attempted murder after two people were stabbed at central middlesex hospital in west london.
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the attacks took place on wednesday afternoon. he is due to appear at willesden magistrates' court later today. the electoral commission says data from last month's local elections in england shows that around 14,000 people did not vote because they were unable to provide an accepted form of photo identification. it was the first time voters in great britain have had to show id. warmer weather in may has helped push up retail sales. the office for national statistics says they rose by 0.3%. online sales of summer clothing and garden furniture went up as the weather improved. garden centres and diy stores also saw growth. fuel sales also rose compared to april, but people bought less food as prices continued to rise. you're live with bbc news. i want to bring you a developing story from germany, where a new migration law has passed in the bundestag. this will make it easier for non—eu migrants to come to germany to work or to find work.
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the german government wants to cut red tape for migrant workers, lower the criteria needed and set up a canada—style points—based system. the most hotly debated part of the new law is that many asylum seekers who are already in germany and able and willing to work, will also qualify. but it's controversial among conservatives and the far—right, who claim this will encourage irregular migration, rather than attract skilled workers. we'll bring you more on this across the day. in paris, a global summit seeking to overhaul the international financial system and help tack climate change is wrapping up. wealthy nations have finalised a $100 dollar climate pledge to help developing countries. delegates have been working to ease the debt burden on poorer nations, who are struggling to meet their climate goals. around 50 heads of state have been in paris this week, as well influential figures
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like janet yellen, the us treasury secretary. the world bank says it will ease financing for countries hit by natural disasters. but the event has also attracted protests. climate activist greta thunberg attended one demonstration and pointed to hypocrisy from decision—makers. let's turn to ukraine and the destruction left after the kakhovka dam burst. ukraine has blamed russia for the attack, which has left communities struggling with what's become a humanitarian and environmental disaster. those above the dam are suffering chronic water shortages. satellite imagery shows how the dam's destruction has caused the kakhovka reservoir, upriver from the dam, to dramatically shrink and dry up, while those below it, in the city of kherson, are cleaning out their homes after water levels that were once higher than their houses now recede. more than 50 people have died, dozens more are missing, as russian forces continue to shell the region. andrew harding sent this report
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from southern ukraine. a boat beached on the roadside. plenty of puddles and, in places, more than puddles. "how can i live in this?" asks 72—year—old anna. but the worst of the flooding is now over here in kherson — a frontline city still targeted daily by russian artillery. somebody has helpfully marked the high water point on this building. and you can see over here on the garage door, the lines where the floodwaters have slowly receded from this area. but there's mud everywhere. retired teachers irina and yevgeny clear through the wreckage of their musty, waterlogged home. "we're like rats," says irina.
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"we've endured so many disasters the shelling, the flood, it's as if we've become immune to it all." flood rescue workers suddenly race for cover as russian guns start up again. but many civilians here refuse to be driven out of kherson. it's a defiance, a resilience that only seems to have grown since the events of the 6th ofjune. that was the day suspected russian sabotage destroyed this nearby kakhovka dam, releasing a deluge of water downstream. but what about upstream? here that same dam's collapse has emptied out the largest body of fresh water in ukraine. this giant reservoir contained 18 cubic kilometres of water. if it helps, try picturing one giant
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paddling pool the size of england and all that water has abruptly vanished. and the impact on wildlife here and on humans has been catastrophic. the nearby towns have all run out of water. half a million people suddenly relying on emergency supplies. "what do you think it's like carrying water like a donkey?" asks yuliya. "it's scary," says nina. "and the future is even scarier." and yet life rumbles on here. many local men have left to fight the russians, but ivan and his uncle, also ivan, are still working the fields. "there are no polite words for what the russians have done
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here to our environment," both men agree. and there's something else troubling them. across the floor of the empty reservoir, russian troops are in control of europe's largest nuclear plant. it feels closer than ever now, its future uncertain, too. another worry on this muddy, unpredictable frontline. andrew harding, bbc news, ukraine. the youngest son of myanmar�*s ousted leader aung san suu kyi has called on the country's military to free her from jail. speaking exclusively to the bbc, kim aris, a british national, says the army has not given him any information about his mother or the condition of her health. ms suu kyi was handed a 33—year sentence in a series of trials after a coup toppled her government in 2021. before this, i hadn't wanted to speak to the media or get involved too much because it's better that i stay out of politics.
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my mother has never wanted me to be involved and i don't want to get her into more trouble by saying things that may be misconstrued, so i've always thought it best to avoid it. but now that she's been sentenced and the military are clearly not being reasonable, i think i can say what i want. with burma not being covered in the news so much, i think i have to do what i can to get as much of a message across. i can't let my mother languish in prison and not try my hardest to say something that gets noticed by the wider world. a growing number of councils in england are removing pay and display parking machines and asking people to pay using an app instead. a new survey suggests millions of drivers in england are, or will soon be, forced
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to use their phones to pay for parking. olivia hutchinson has more. if you drive a car, have a think about the last time you paid for parking with cash. according to the rac, nearly a fifth of drivers say their local authority has either scrapped parking payment machines altogether or is consulting on doing so. that would leave the only option of paying via a mobile phone. this is the move sadly that's come about from the fact that a lot of these machines are actually pretty old technology these days. councils face huge sums to actually upgrade them and, in many cases, councils, rather than paying that money are deciding to switch to third party mobile apps instead. and i think that is going to potentially create a bit of a problem for a certain chunk of drivers in this country, who simply don't use phones or don't like using phones to pay for parking. there are a range of different parking apps that are used by councils. motorists often have to download them and are charged an additional fee to use the service. the rac says many parking operators
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are getting rid of older machines that process card payments by 3g mobile signals because those masts are being switched off. there are concerns, though, that requiring drivers to use a mobile app or call a phone number is particularly difficult for some elderly or vulnerable people, putting them at risk of being fined for non—payment. i don't often use car parks — this is the only one i use. so if i'm having now to start... a different car park i go to, i'm not au fait with it, so it's a little bit worrying that i've got to start using apps now. i wouldn't know how to start to download the app, so i would probablyjust go home. i've just used the app and it's not recognised the site of 17788. - so i'm forced to have to go and find another car park. i in april, the community secretary, michael gove, wrote to councils expressing concern about drivers being digitally excluded through a lack of alternative payment methods.
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the local government association says councils are working with government and parking operators to streamline the number of apps needed to make payments to make the process as simple as possible for drivers. olivia hutchinson, bbc news. you can keep up—to—date on all these stories on the bbc news website, and lots of comments, we have james cameron, the director of the film titanic as well. please do check that out. stay with us on bbc news. some weather changes around at the moment and wet weather and this weekend is, still some heat and this weekend is, still some heat and humidity to content with, not
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just by day but by night as well, all culminating on sunday with some particular potent and thundery downpours. today, fund are not really the risk but rain and drizzle coming and going across scotland, north in england, west wales and northern ireland. while they will be particularly great in the western areas, the south and east and channel islands, sun out, hot, ends in shetland, another sunny day, highs of 16. humidity levels rising further through tonight, and suddenly wind, rain at times through scotland, northern ireland and misty and murky with a drizzle in the air on western coasts and hills. tomorrow's temperatures not dropping lower than 16 degrees, at many spending the night with temperatures in the high teens or low 20s, so a pretty warm start to saturday. drizzle in the west, during saturday
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afternoon, the cloud breaking up with more sunshine around and you will feel the hot with that humidity feeling a stifling afternoon, up to 30 degrees towards the southeast of england. another very warm night will follow, drawing in airfrom england. another very warm night will follow, drawing in air from the south around this area of high pressure. pressure conditions working in off the atlantic and a dividing line is this front bringing heavy, thundery downpours into the start of sunday across ireland and through sunday that was put into many western parts of the uk. close to glastonbury and late in the day, edgbaston too. eastern area saying dry throughout, the high temperature still in place with the humidity, compared to 19 in northern ireland is. that fresh air pushing eastwards with those thundery downpours through sunday night and next week, high pressure to the south of us with the air coming off the atlantic, so a slightly different suite, cold with rain at times,
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express across the north and west. further south and east you are, set to be that little drier with sunshine at times and in the sunshine at times and in the sunshine we will see temperatures lift once again into the mid 20s. that's how it's looking, bye for now.
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