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tributes are paid to the five people who died on board the titan submersible as questions are raised over the safety of the sub. they cut corners, they used unproven experimental technology on a sub that took passengers. and to me that's inexcusable and they were uncertified. in the uk, new measures to help mortgage holders struggling - with rising interest rates are agreed by the big banks. and we will bring you the latest from glastonbury as the first date of live music gets under way. hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones, welcome to verified live, three hours of breaking stories and checking out the truth behind them. in the past half hour, a man has been found guilty here in the uk of murdering
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metropolitan police officer matt ratana, who was shot in the chest inside a south london police station. louis de zoysa used an antique revolver, which he'd smuggled into a holding cell at croydon custody centre, to shoot sergeant ratana in 2020. he was handcuffed at the time. the case was heard at northampton crown court. we can cross live there now to our correspondent frances read. as you said, in the last half hour, we have had it that guilty verdict. it took the jury some approximately five hours to deliberate that verdict. as we said, back in september 2020 that 25—year—old, now 25—year—old louis de zoysa was stopped as part of a routine search before he was taken to a police station, and it is there that he was able to discharge the shots from this antique revolver. let's have a little look back on the case now with daniel sandford.
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you're walking down the road with a duffel bag, right? which i believe may have staff equipped to do a burglary. may have staff equipped to do a burn ia . ~ . may have staff equipped to do a burtla ,~ ., ,., may have staff equipped to do a burula .~ . _, may have staff equipped to do a burula .~ . h, may have staff equipped to do a burula .~ . _, ., burglary. what started as a routine sto in at burglary. what started as a routine step in at the _ burglary. what started as a routine stop in at the early _ burglary. what started as a routine stop in at the early hours _ burglary. what started as a routine stop in at the early hours of- burglary. what started as a routine stop in at the early hours of a - stop in at the early hours of a friday morning ended with the killing of a police officer. in friday morning ended with the killing of a police officer. in that ban . .. killing of a police officer. in that bag--- ism _ killing of a police officer. in that bag... is... quite— killing of a police officer. in that bag... is... quite quickly, - killing of a police officer. in that bag... is... quite quickly, louis| killing of a police officer. in that i bag... is... quite quickly, louis de 20 sa bag... is... quite quickly, louis de zoysa admitted _ bag... is... quite quickly, louis de zoysa admitted he _ bag... is... quite quickly, louis de zoysa admitted he had _ bag... is... quite quickly, louis de zoysa admitted he had drugs - bag... is... quite quickly, louis de zoysa admitted he had drugs on i zoysa admitted he had drugs on him. non-cannabis. pc rich davey then found ammunition. _ non-cannabis. pc rich davey then found ammunition. -- _ non-cannabis. pc rich davey then found ammunition. -- non-medical. found ammunition. -- non-medical cannabis. found ammunition. -- non-medical cannabis- i'm _ found ammunition. -- non-medical cannabis. i'm placing _ found ammunition. -- non-medical cannabis. i'm placing you're - found ammunition. -- non-medical cannabis. i'm placing you're under. cannabis. i'm placing you're under arrest for possession _ cannabis. i'm placing you're under arrest for possession of _ cannabis. i'm placing you're under arrest for possession of billets. i arrest for possession of billets. despite a lengthy search, officers are somehow missed at the antique revolver secreted any holster under his left arm. == revolver secreted any holster under his left arm-— his left arm. -- for the possession of billets- — his left arm. -- for the possession of billets. any _ his left arm. -- for the possession of billets. any sale, _ his left arm. -- for the possession of billets. any sale, de _ his left arm. -- for the possession of billets. any sale, de zoysa i his left arm. -- for the possession l of billets. any sale, de zoysa moved the nun of billets. any sale, de zoysa moved the gun into —
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of billets. any sale, de zoysa moved the gun into his _ of billets. any sale, de zoysa moved the gun into his hands, _ of billets. any sale, de zoysa moved the gun into his hands, still- of billets. any sale, de zoysa moved the gun into his hands, still hand i the gun into his hands, still hand cut. a metal detector search was ordered by matt ratana. at that point, louis de zoysa produced the gun from behind his back and shot sergeant ratana in the heart. welcome to the football club, i'm not ratana. welcome to the football club, i'm not ratana-— not ratana. match ratana was a former rugby — not ratana. match ratana was a former rugby coach, _ not ratana. match ratana was a former rugby coach, son - not ratana. match ratana was a former rugby coach, son of i not ratana. match ratana was a former rugby coach, son of a i not ratana. match ratana was a i former rugby coach, son of a maori father and scottish mother. his brother said that he went... he went and became a cop. we thought he was going to be a tennis coach. he went to england and 91. he served almost 30 years _ he went to england and 91. he served almost 30 years in _ he went to england and 91. he served almost 30 years in the _ he went to england and 91. he served almost 30 years in the metropolitan l almost 30 years in the metropolitan police and was three months from retirement. he police and was three months from retirement-_ police and was three months from retirement-— police and was three months from retirement. , . ., . ~ retirement. he is never coming back. wh ? tell retirement. he is never coming back. why? tell me — retirement. he is never coming back. why? tell me why. _ retirement. he is never coming back. why? tell me why. his _ retirement. he is never coming back. why? tell me why. his brother, i retirement. he is never coming back. why? tell me why. his brother, who| why? tell me why. his brother, who has a criminal— why? tell me why. his brother, who has a criminal record _ why? tell me why. his brother, who has a criminal record in _ why? tell me why. his brother, who has a criminal record in new- why? tell me why. his brother, who has a criminal record in new zealand
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and has spent time in police stations and prisons, can't believe that metropolitan police allowed a gun into a custody suite. what gun into a custody suite. what the 've gun into a custody suite. what they've told — gun into a custody suite. what they've told us _ gun into a custody suite. what they've told us that, _ gun into a custody suite. what they've told us that, if- gun into a custody suite. what they've told us that, if they i gun into a custody suite. twist they've told us that, if they had gun into a custody suite. “1st they've told us that, if they had to they“ve told us that, if they had to change the procedures and do the sorts of things, they“ve change the procedures and do the sorts of things, they've got metal detectors where you walk in through now. i'm like, well, they“ve detectors where you walk in through now. i'm like, well, they've got there was any police stations here, they“ve there was any police stations here, they've had them for years. the two officers who — they've had them for years. the two officers who searched _ they've had them for years. the two officers who searched louis - they've had them for years. the two officers who searched louis de i they've had them for years. the two | officers who searched louis de zoysa have been defended by their force. the officers once they searched on the street. — the officers once they searched on the street, louis de zoysa always remained — the street, louis de zoysa always remained in handcuffs. when the ammunition was found in him in the street_ ammunition was found in him in the street the _ ammunition was found in him in the street the handcuffed position was moved _ street the handcuffed position was moved from a front position to a hack_ moved from a front position to a back position.— back position. they have been raised back position. they have been praised how — back position. they have been praised how they _ back position. they have been praised how they tackled i back position. they have been praised how they tackled the i back position. they have been - praised how they tackled the gunman during the shooting. he shot himself in the neck and the struggle and then survived. the in the neck and the struggle and then survived.— in the neck and the struggle and then survived. the two arresting officers, i _ then survived. the two arresting officers, i think— then survived. the two arresting officers, i think without - then survived. the two arresting officers, i think without any i officers, i think without any thought. _ officers, i think without any thought, instinctivelyjumped on a de zoysa — thought, instinctivelyjumped on a de zoysa to try to wrestle the firearm — de zoysa to try to wrestle the firearm away and get it off him. de firearm away and get it off him. dye. zoysa firearm away and get it off him. zoysa is firearm away and get it off him. de: zoysa is permanently brain—damaged. he can barely talk. in court, he is
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the white bird to communicate. he has autistic spectrum disorder, but had a successful school career and learned to shoot with the army cadets. 0n the farm where he lived alone, he used his engineering skills to make the non—standard bullets for the gun that he bought online. it is not clear why he had a firearm near his parents that night, but he had a bad relationship with his father who has a conviction for domestic violence. his lawyers argued the shooting was a result of the autistic meltdown, but the jury decided it was murder. as we heard there, sergeant ratana“s brother paying tribute to him but also questioning how it was possible that a revolver could get into a police station and do what he did
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with it. they met obviously praised its officers there. but we put some of the questions to the met police. l, of the questions to the met police. i, like most people, have always asked the question, how could it possibly have occurred? that he man who was on the streets of london with a gun has been able to shoot a police officer, in essence, within the confines of a police station, in one of our custody suites. the devastating impact that has had on matt ratana“s family and partnering colleagues... and certainly in all my time in policing and investigations, i have undertaken and be responsible for, very quickly i and my colleagues in the investigation knew exactly what occurred because we had all of the events both on body worn video, on cctv from a divine, and a cctv from
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the custody suite, so we were able to quickly identify the full events. there is a chain of events that led to such a terrible and tragic outcome. to such a terrible and tragic outcome-— to such a terrible and tragic outcome. ~ . , ., ., to such a terrible and tragic outcome. . , ., ., , outcome. we have 'ust got a couple of extra outcome. we have just got a couple of extra details about _ outcome. we have just got a couple of extra details about what - of extra details about what was happening in court, just to bring before i go back thejudge said the jury before i go back thejudge said the jury had filled an owner is but critical public duty and the prosecutor told the court that further fire and ammunition charges faced and will lay on file. sentencing will be next month. let“s sentencing will be next month. let's go back to france is now. give us a bit more detail about how this trial was actually conducted and it was
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unusual quest market was unusual and thatis unusual quest market was unusual and that is because of louis de zoysa“s condition and the fact that his injuries stemming from that gunshot wound that his for a shot that he was released —— that was released on the station, it meant all the trial had to be conducted incredibly simply. 50 had to be conducted incredibly siml . , had to be conducted incredibly siml. , , , ., ., ., simply. so very simple language, and when the judge _ simply. so very simple language, and when the judge was _ simply. so very simple language, and when the judge was laying _ simply. so very simple language, and when the judge was laying things i when the judge was laying things out, things had to be done very, very simple, very, very simple sentences from the judge, the prosecution, the defence so that it could all be understood. that is not necessarily usual in court. but that is what was requested in order to give a fair trial, because obviously the defence was claiming that diminished responsibility originally. francis, thank you very much. we will be back with you a little later. we will head to the us and
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get the latest on that submersible, the debris of which was found. more safety questions are coming up as a result of that. many questions about the safety, how although the co—founder of 0ceangate company said it was 1a years in development and pass rigorous safety checks. meanwhile, there have been tributes to the men involved. paul—henry nargeolet, diver and explorer. stockton rush, ceo of 0ceangate. hamish harding, british explorer. his family said “'he was a loving husband, a dedicated father and a legend who lived for his next adventure". shahzada dawood, businessperson and his son, suleman.
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his family describe unimaginable loss. things up—to—date with what is happening there now. there is this debate raging amongst the deep sea diving exploration community about the safety specifically of the titan craft and the way 0ceangate was operating these paid for tourist trips to the sea bed to see the wreckage of the titanic, but also the question more widely about this sort of expedition, whether it can ever resume and if it does, how it can be done safely. as you have heard, there are people defending the company and his chief executive, saying he was extremely committed to safety and was not acting recklessly and conducting these dives, or anywhere the craft had been designed, developed and built, but others have pointed out it did not meet the accepted safety standards. it had not gone through the sort of certification that many similar craft would have gone through, but this is an area of exploration that is pushing the boundaries. it is in
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technology and that are not set safety standards. it is unclear what the regulation may be, who would enforce that, because we are talking about international waters here in such difficult conditions, sol think that is a debate that will continue. questions about whether the sort of waivers we believe any men who paid for that trip would have signed actually do indemnify the company or not, whether it may now see lawsuits coming from the families of those concerned. we have also heard a little more about the sounds are picked up, we believe, when the craft imploded. the us navy detected some sons in the early stages of that dive on sunday morning which, when they reviewed the data, do seem consistent with the data, do seem consistent with the sudden implosion of the craft, thatis the sudden implosion of the craft, that is data that was passed to the coastguard fairly early in the search, so the suggestion is the coastguard pretty much from the start of this operation knew what the likely outcome was. but they did not make that public. that is probably because they wanted to do everything they can to try to find the sub and rescue the men if it was
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at all possible. they were leaving open the possibility they may be found and recovered. we now know that was never going to be possible. then, thank you very much for that. we will turn to that story just any moment, but i want to take you back to outside northampton crown court on the breaking news we have been covering. they are just setting up the microphone they are, as you can see. this is the first response we are hearing after the guilty verdict. ., ., , are hearing after the guilty verdict. ., . , , are hearing after the guilty verdict. ., ., , , ., verdict. today he has been found uuil of verdict. today he has been found guilty of taking — verdict. today he has been found guilty of taking his _ verdict. today he has been found guilty of taking his life _ verdict. today he has been found guilty of taking his life any i verdict. today he has been found guilty of taking his life any krul l guilty of taking his life any krul and karoly manor, the effects of which have left me, his family, colleagues, and friends without the loving comrade today he had with the memory —— taking his life in a cruel manner. i want to thank the investigation team, the crown
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prosecution service, and the crime prosecution counsel, and as a whole, the metropolitan police. today is about the justice for matt. his life was taken too soon in the line of duty. doing a job that he loved, a cruel end to a lifetime of service and dedication protecting others. whilst the court case has concluded, the constant feeling of grief and lost continues. my love for matt, my gentle giant, will never end. i again request that our right to privacy be respected. thank you. i first met sue in the anniversary of his— i first met sue in the anniversary of his murder. i am inspired by the strain_ of his murder. i am inspired by the strain she — of his murder. i am inspired by the strain she should then and here
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today — strain she should then and here today i— strain she should then and here today. i cannot begin to imagine how difficult _ today. i cannot begin to imagine how difficult this has been for her and all of— difficult this has been for her and all of matt's family and friends and we will— all of matt's family and friends and we will continue to offer them every support— we will continue to offer them every support possible. match dedicated 30 years of— support possible. match dedicated 30 years of his life to policing. he was nearing retirement when he was tradically— was nearing retirement when he was tragically murdered. he was an extending officer —— outstanding officen — extending officer —— outstanding officen he — extending officer —— outstanding officer. he treated everyone with respect, — officer. he treated everyone with respect, compassion and humour. in the days— respect, compassion and humour. in the days after his death, tributes flowed _ the days after his death, tributes flowed in— the days after his death, tributes flowed in from matt's colleagues, from _ flowed in from matt's colleagues, from communities, those he had served, — from communities, those he had served, and at those who knew him in his life _ served, and at those who knew him in his life outside of policing. they were _ his life outside of policing. they were a — his life outside of policing. they were a testament to the man he was. whether— were a testament to the man he was. whether it _ were a testament to the man he was. whether it was on the streets or in the custody— whether it was on the streets or in the custody centre, as a uniformed police _ the custody centre, as a uniformed police officer, or in the rugby field — police officer, or in the rugby field and _ police officer, or in the rugby field and later as a coach, it is clear— field and later as a coach, it is clear he — field and later as a coach, it is clear he was someone who made an enduring _ clear he was someone who made an enduring impact whenever he went. we will ensure _ enduring impact whenever he went. we will ensure that he is never forgotten. i have also seen at the
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heavy _ forgotten. i have also seen at the heavy impact that his murder has had on his— heavy impact that his murder has had on his colleagues. those he worked with in— on his colleagues. those he worked with in croydon and also the many officers _ with in croydon and also the many officers and — with in croydon and also the many officers and staff who served alongside him in his lengthy career. that impactful is especially heavy on those — that impactful is especially heavy on those who were present the night he was _ on those who were present the night he was murdered. the tragedy is called _ he was murdered. the tragedy is called me — he was murdered. the tragedy is called me to reflect on the uncertain world in which police officers — uncertain world in which police officers operate and the risks they take day— officers operate and the risks they take day by day. officers never have a perfect _ take day by day. officers never have a perfect picture of what awaits them _ a perfect picture of what awaits them at — a perfect picture of what awaits them at the next incident. every day, _ them at the next incident. every day, for— them at the next incident. every day, for example, we take several firearms _ day, for example, we take several firearms of— day, for example, we take several firearms of the streets of london and the _ firearms of the streets of london and the vast majority of those are saved _ and the vast majority of those are saved in _ and the vast majority of those are saved in routine police work by unarmed — saved in routine police work by unarmed officers. —— are seized. they— unarmed officers. —— are seized. they step — unarmed officers. —— are seized. they step forward into uncertainty and risk _ they step forward into uncertainty and risk daily and deserve our admiration. the officers and staff on duty— admiration. the officers and staff on duty the night matt was murdered tolust _ on duty the night matt was murdered tojust those on duty the night matt was murdered to just those attributes. without their— to just those attributes. without their courage, i believe that more lives _ their courage, i believe that more lives would — their courage, i believe that more lives would certainly have been
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lost _ lives would certainly have been lost i'm — lives would certainly have been lost. i'm immensely proud of their professionalism, their bravery, and they have _ professionalism, their bravery, and they have my enduring admiration and full support. thank you. we they have my enduring admiration and full support. thank you.— full support. thank you. we were heafina full support. thank you. we were hearing there _ full support. thank you. we were hearing there from _ full support. thank you. we were hearing there from a _ full support. thank you. we were hearing there from a mark- full support. thank you. we were i hearing there from a mark rowley, giving his thoughts and reflections on the life of matt ratana, and the extraordinary outpouring of tributes after his death from all the people in his life that he touched and influenced, police force, his friends in the world of rugby. he had worked as a police officer for 30 years. he was just nearing retirement. mark rowley underlying the uncertainty that police officers face every day going into work, not knowing exactly what they will face.
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so reflections there. let“s knowing exactly what they will face. so reflections there. let's go back to our reporter, frances reid, who is listening into those statements outside court. yes, very moving. that is the first time that matt ratana“s partner has ever spoken as well, so a huge day. that is what they are talking about comedy justice. that is what they are talking about comedyjustice. thejustice that is what they are talking about comedyjustice. the justice they wanted for matt. they talk about him being this friendly personality, compassionate, a real good officer, dedicated to hisjob. for 30 odd years, you know, about to retire. and i think that is what they wanted to get across today, that bravery of the met police officers as well in doing that dailyjob in what is a very riskyjob. and i think the met police were very keen to get that across today. and they gave the officers involved in this case,
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their utmost support. they have really pushed for that and showed them their support, even though they have said there will be changes as a consequence of this, that the officers involved who are also in this holding cell will also have further training as a consequence of this because, like we said, perhaps the exact protocol of a search for the exact protocol of a search for the weapon of that kind was not completely followed, but the met police have really got behind its officers on this, even though now there will be changes and potentially changes nationally as well. 0k, frances, thank you so much for that. �* ., ., well. 0k, frances, thank you so much for that. “ ., ., ., for that. around the world and across the _ for that. around the world and across the uk, _ for that. around the world and across the uk, this _ for that. around the world and across the uk, this is - for that. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc i for that. around the world and i across the uk, this is bbc news. we will get some more news from here in the uk. security workers at heathrow airport have accepted a pay offer, ending a long—running dispute. the members of unite union had been planning a strike which
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would have disrupted some summer holidays. junior doctors in england are to strike for five days from the 13th ofjuly, as part of their long—running row with the government over pay. the the british medical association says the walk—out will be the longest single period of industrial action in the history of the health service. the electoral commission says data from last month's local elections in england shows that around 1a,000 people did not vote because they were unable to provide an accepted form of photo identification. it was the first time voters in great britain have had to show id. and to work of course, on the website, and if you have not downloaded the bbc news app, of course do that as well. you“re alive with bbc news, thank you for your company.
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live now to london and dr sidharth kaushal, navy analyst and research fellow at the royal united services institute to get more on the titan sub. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you for coming on the programme-— thank you for coming on the rorramme. ., ~ i., ., ., programme. thank you for having me. just talk us through _ programme. thank you for having me. just talk us through your _ programme. thank you for having me. just talk us through your thoughts i just talk us through your thoughts as the investigation develops. ln as the investigation develops. in terms of next stages, of as the investigation develops. l“i terms of next stages, of course, we now have a lot more clarity about the causes of the unfortunate incident. presumably the next stages, that is a fairly conclusive outcome. presumably nick stages would be more to do with things like the integrity of the vessel itself and whether this it was fit for purpose for the sorts of tasks it was being asked to perform. [30 purpose for the sorts of tasks it was being asked to perform. do stay there for us- — was being asked to perform. do stay there for us. as _ was being asked to perform. do stay there for us. as you _ was being asked to perform. do stay there for us. as you are _ was being asked to perform. do stay there for us. as you are talking i there for us. as you are talking there, just had a line from the uk
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ministry of defence about the noises that were heard. it says whilst it would have appeared classified systems may have retrospectively heard noises detailing an implosion, as with all searches, you have to remain optimistic until you can categorically declare to the contrary. this is best achieved by the visible observation of wreckage leading to an unequivocal reality and avoids potential speculation following analysis of potential inconclusive noises. a little bit complex in that last sentence, but the idea of even if you detect noises that could have been an implosion, you have to remain optimistic. what do you make of that? fin optimistic. what do you make of that? ., ., ., ., , ~ that? on the one hand, a noise like an implosion _ that? on the one hand, a noise like an implosion should _ that? on the one hand, a noise like an implosion should be _ that? on the one hand, a noise like an implosion should be quite - an implosion should be quite distinctive. you think of some of the undersea sensor networks that were operated for decades, they were able to detect implosions during disasters that occurred in the
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19605, disasters that occurred in the 1960s, the year ss thrasher, for example. but i suspect that the suspect... —— uss thresher. however, absolute verification is something that many would expect and there's always a possibility of false positives, so that may have driven the response and are the sort of reasoning the mod has described there. , , , , , reasoning the mod has described there. , , , , ., there. just very briefly, and fed, and i there. just very briefly, and fed, and i know _ there. just very briefly, and fed, and i know it _ there. just very briefly, and fed, and i know it is _ there. just very briefly, and fed, and i know it is slightly - there. just very briefly, and fed, and i know it is slightly unfair. and i know it is slightly unfair because it is early days —— and i it is slightly unfair, are there any conclusions that can be done there? it is an exceedingly complex task, even navies only have a handful of
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vessels, capable of offering thing at extreme depths, so there may be some lessons about the limitations of private sector actors attempting to emulate these sorts of capabilities.— to emulate these sorts of caabilities. . , ., ,, . ., capabilities. ok, really appreciate our time. capabilities. ok, really appreciate your time. thank _ capabilities. ok, really appreciate your time. thank you _ capabilities. ok, really appreciate your time. thank you very - capabilities. ok, really appreciate your time. thank you very much l capabilities. ok, really appreciate i your time. thank you very much for coming on the programme.- your time. thank you very much for coming on the programme. thank you for havin: coming on the programme. thank you for having me- — indian prime minister narendra modi has been meeting the us president in washington. this yesterday he attended a glitzy state dinner with presidentjoe biden. before that, you may remember there was a speech to congress too. because your message from president biden underlying a special relationship —— the crucial message. he said it will define the 21st century, greater cooperation between the two countries is being seen as a
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counterbalance to china“s rising influence. let“s head now to leslie vinjamuri, director of us and americas programme at chatham house and an associate professor of international relations at soas university of london meeting on the programme, we saw some glitzy pictures. what is your assessment so far?— some glitzy pictures. what is your assessment so far? there is hardly bin aer assessment so far? there is hardly bigger signal _ assessment so far? there is hardly bigger signal from _ assessment so far? there is hardly bigger signal from the _ assessment so far? there is hardly bigger signal from the biden i bigger signal from the biden administration bigger signalfrom the biden administration on how much it values administration on how much it values a strategic partnership with india. it has been decades in the making, but had just taken on a new dimension. visibility is one of the things to note here, there are [i things to note here, there are 4 million indians who live in the united states, the dyas borough is significant, growing and wealthy —— the diaspora. but at the public level, it has flown before the radar. most americans before this visit would not have known who the indian peninsula was, so although it has been a significant partnership
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for a long time, it is now a highly visible one and as we all know, china looms a very large in this. the us and india have not been aligned on every dimension. india has continued to purchase oil from russia and has not supported us led sanctions, but despite its position, which is very different from the us position. that broader interest in the indo—pacific encountering china's rise, india is crucial to that. �* , , , china's rise, india is crucial to that. v , , that. let's 'ust very quick minute on that. that. let'sjust very quick minute on that. what _ that. let'sjust very quick minute on that. what is _ that. let'sjust very quick minute on that. what is the _ that. let'sjust very quick minute on that. what is the kind - that. let'sjust very quick minute on that. what is the kind of- on that. what is the kind of geopolitics, the calculation here from the us? i geopolitics, the calculation here from the us?— geopolitics, the calculation here from the us? ~ . ., ., from the us? i think the calculation is that if you _ from the us? i think the calculation is that if you look _ from the us? i think the calculation is that if you look at _ from the us? i think the calculation is that if you look at india, - from the us? i think the calculation is that if you look at india, the - is that if you look at india, the size of its military, it is the fourth largest spender in 2022, the fifth—largest economy, the largest estate, country and the world in terms of sheer population, and it sits there, does not have a good relationship with china, it has had
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troubles along that border with china. it has a strong interest in maintaining some sort of... so that very critical shed by an investor, india and the us have every reason to work together, but it is also this broader basis in economic exchange. if you look at the announcement that has come out, it is about strategic technology, it continues to be about trade, but it is also about co—producing fighter jets in india. that is quite remarkable. i really am keen to get onto that, but unfortunately we have to tailor seconds left.— to tailor seconds left. thank you for coming _ to tailor seconds left. thank you for coming on — to tailor seconds left. thank you for coming on the _ to tailor seconds left. thank you for coming on the programme. i to tailor seconds left. thank you - for coming on the programme. sorry about that. "11; —— iii seconds left. good afternoon. plenty going on for the weather over the next few days. we've got a change in the story as we speak.
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we've got rain around it this morning, not for all of us. this was glasgow earlier on. some heavier bursts of rain, but already it's starting to fragment as it pushes its way steadily eastwards. but we've got rain into parts of north—west england and wales. the best of the sunshine further south and east, so not a bad morning so far across surrey, as you can see. it looks likely that with the cloud and the rain, it'll be just a little bit fresher for many of us. top temperatures generally around 16 to 22 celsius, but in the sunshine, still pretty warm with it, 26 to 27 celsius. that's just nudging into 80 fahrenheit. now, as we go through this evening, still going to see some showery outbreaks of rain for a time drifting its way eastwards. this south—westerly flow feeding in a lot of cloud. it'll be misty and murky, but it's also going to drag with it more humid air, so it will be a mild night, an uncomfortable night for getting a good night's sleep, 15 or 16 degrees. so a warm start to saturday morning leading into a pretty warm and increasingly humid day as well. it will be cloudy, misty and damp at times along west—facing coasts.
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a few more organised showers into the north—west of scotland, but there'll also be some sunny spells for many and it will feel pretty warm generally across the country. we're looking at 17 to 25 celsius in scotland and northern ireland. highest values — 29, possibly 30 not out of the question somewhere across southern and eastern england. now the high pressure just drifts off into the near continent, but we still keep this southerly flow, but a frontal system pushing in from the west, so on sunday, a real contrast to the story, best of the sunshine, and still pretty hot with it, south and east. but as this front moves in into that very warm and humid air, it's going to trigger some sharp, intense thundery downpours. noticeably fresher behind it, but hot and humid ahead of it with highs of 30 celsius. now, as that rain clears away through sunday evening into monday, that fresher air will start to take over. and areas of low pressure look likely to start to move in from the north and west, so a change into next week.
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