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tv   Women and Gambling  BBC News  June 25, 2023 10:30am-11:00am BST

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kremlin says he will not face any criminal charges. waggoner fighters have left the southern city of rostov where they took control early on saturday. the mercenaries have been told they will not be prosecuted and will be allowed to join the russian army. meanwhile, the russian authorities say that some road restrictions remain in place around the capital of moscow and along the m4 motorway. on saturday, highways across the country were closed and roadblocks put in place to try and stall the progress of their waggoner mercenaries as they were travelling towards moscow. a lot of people that know me still don't know i am a gambling addict. even when i came here,
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i said i was going to a mental health facility, because people knew i had mental health episodes that were bad, but nobody knew i was an addict. i kept my gambling a secret for years, and obviously it did eventually all come out. these british women fought to keep their gambling addiction a secret, until they were offered a lifeline — a place in a residential centre, and a chance to confront their addiction. i can't remember the exact amount, but it shocked my parents, it shocked my partner at the time, because i think it worked out to be about £30,000 in the space of three months. recent studies indicate that around the world, the number of women gambling is growing. and for those with addiction, is often done in secret. we seem to be sleepwalking, it feels like, towards a problem. elissa used to gamble regularly in pubs, on fruit machines and down at the bookies. but she has got out of hand when she started doing it online in her 30s. i think it started when i was quite young, so about nine year old or something like that. my mum had an... i'm not blaming my mum, obviously,
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she hated gambling — but she had a caravan and we were always in the arcade, and at the time you could play on the slot machines, it didn't matter your age, like 5p a spin it was. and she would give me pocket money every night, and i was putting it in them, like, i must have been nine years old. i won £35, and i would give it to my mum to look after. and then i kept dipping into it. and can you describe when your gambling addiction was at its worst, what it was like day—to—day? so i have always, like, had a bit... well, a massive problem with drink, so i was always in the pub, playing fruit machines, in the bookies. it wasn't until i was about 30 and i started doing it online, online slots, and itjust got out
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of hand rapidly. and very quickly, i was taking out payday loans, quite soon, and i kept it all secret for years from my missus. at the end it would be, if i had money in my account, i would go to work, in between every job i would be gambling. i started taking my phone into the bathroom with me when i was having a bath and things like that. so how many rooms are there upstairs...? she ended up going through treatment here, at the first women's residential gambling centre based in england, which opened 18 months ago and is run by the charity gordon moody. we are the first media outlet to gain access inside, which has taken two years to make happen, and build up the trust of women who have been through the programme. they live at the centre for five weeks and are supported by therapists 2a hours a day.
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it's partly funded by the gambling industry, which in the uk is required to put money into treatment services. it's a programme that deals with a multitude of different kinds of issues that somebody might be experiencing while gambling, and around their kind of environmental situations. the programme aims to create a calm environment, to allow ladies to kind of detox from the gambling. we could see that the need was increasing for women to come in to service for treatment, specifically for gambling, because they were presenting with more issues, and also when they were presenting they were very much at crisis point. and obviously, the referrals, for example in gordon moody, our referrals have, you know, over doubled in the past year. do you think when it comes to women, there is sometimes more secrecy and shame than perhaps with men? i think with women in particular, or anybody that kind
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of online gambles as well, it can be hidden a lot better because it is so accessible, it's on your phone, it's on your tablet, it's on your laptop, and you can't physically identify if somebody is actually doing that. darker colours for the gambling side... during the five weeks they do a mix of individual and group therapy, as well as creative workshops where they are encouraged to express their feelings. what does the black and grey represent to you? emptiness...addiction, darkness. rebecca was 19 when she first started gambling, almost a decade ago. while making this documentary, we found so many women are reluctant to appear on camera to talk about their experiences of addiction, partly because of the stigma and shame. but rebecca is passionate about speaking out, to help others. i had my first son and i got post—natal depression, and i rememberwinning — ijust went on a gambling site
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and i won really big, and i never stopped. it was just continuous from there. i rememberjust getting scratch cards, winning, losing, opening more and more accounts online continuously. and yeah, before i knew it i was a gambling addict. i used to love online slots, you know — online slots, then i would move to, like — i was betting on horses, i didn't even know what you do. but i was just putting money there because i was looking for this dopamine hit that i wanted, and i couldn't get it from slots anymore because i was so sick of the flashing lights, everything popping up, that actually it was boring me. i was getting to the point where i was gambling and it was boring, but i had to do it because that side of my brain was going gamble, gamble, gamble — and when i couldn't, i would feel like i was physically withdrawing from that. was it impacting your relationship with your kids as well? yeah, soifeel like...
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i mean, for a long time, i was never that active mum that they deserved. i loved them, you know, but i wasn't able to, i was so consumed by addiction, just little things like they were playing, i was never actively there. i was in the phone screen, gambling money. what was it like leaving your children for five weeks to come here? it's so hard being in here, and you've got a baby at home that's poorly. and they're saying to you, "i want a cuddle," and you can't... sorry. when they first start, they tend to have the doors close... harp is the manager of the centre. she has a background in psychotherapy and has worked with victims of trafficking and modern slavery, as well as people who have struggled with addiction. she and the other staff here support the women throughout their stay, which initially includes a complete detox from gambling. we limit access to phones, to the outside world, so all the stresses of the outside
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world is kind of gone. we limit access to money, we limit access to any kind of online services, so they can't gamble. and what that week does, is it allows everybody to kind of sit in reality — like, this is who i am. very, very, very uncomfortable place for some people. the number of women seeking help for gambling in the uk has more than doubled in the past five years, according to figures from the charity gamble aware. the availability of betting and casino games on smartphones has transformed the industry. experts like christina who work with operators and regulators say there are other elements at play too. i think the way that people gamble generally has made it much more accessible. previously, when you had to leave the house, things like the weather might have impacted your decision. if you're a woman, historically gambling is not something
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you would have been allowed to do, or it would have been socially frowned upon. and the sheer act of having to walk into a physical premises would have stopped you. you now can do it in the privacy of your home. i know regulators and government agencies, notjust the uk but in other parts of the world, will put out kind of periodic reports, measures, saying that they haven't seen a particular shift in the prevalence. but to counter that point, we have organisations like gordon moody, national council of problem gambling, responsible gambling council in other parts of the world, kind of saying that they have seen an increase in people approaching them. to add to that, the kind of regulation of gambling around the world. what we now see is gambling brands presented in commonplace...areas that we have never seen before. on sports merchandising, sports shirts — you watch a football game, and certainly if you are watching a football match in the uk,
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i doubt very much you will find any ground that doesn't have some form of gambling advertising. but we also have gambling brands now sponsoring entertainment shows. and when you look at daytime television, who is your main audience there? women, yeah. gambling completely took over caroline�*s life. she got into debt, lost work and it destroyed her relationships. she says it got to the point that she didn't see a future any more. when you're a gambling addict, or compulsive gambler, there is no fun in it. that whole. .. fun, enjoyment goes. i mean, i have sat there in tears gambling on my phone. because i physically couldn't stop. it is a hidden addiction, it's not physical, which is why i believe it's misunderstood. how bad did things get for you mentally?
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last year, when i sat and i did — well, i did think the only way out was, life would be easier for everybody, it would be cheaper for everybody... yeah, so much so i sat in my car in may and actually wrote a letter to my parents... which is something i've actually have got in my room, to remind me, as well, that's how, that is where gambling, you know — that's the stage i was at. and how i felt, that the only way out was to not be here. um... and how did you feel at the end of your five weeks here, compared to when you started? pff — didn't want to leave, was scared to leave.
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strong, headspace clear — like, so positive. and thankful. and me — ifelt... for that five weeks, there was no mask, i wasn't — no gambling, no alcohol, no anything. you were stripped bare. in a house with other women and staff... yeah, i would say it has changed my life, in the sense of, i found me again. the centre is made to feel like a home. it's the only one of its kind offering this type of intensive therapy. sometimes people find it easier to put it on a piece of paper, to write it down, to draw it, and that is why we do use a lot of art and creativity.
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and equally, we use it for reflection. if you can see something physically in front of you, it allows you to have a look at it and kind of process it and think, "wow, ok, "i get where i am kind of coming from." and how important is it to have a programme that has been built and designed by women, for women? i think having a specific programme designed for women is invaluable. men tend to talk about the gambling first, before we look at trauma. whereas women go straight in with the impacts that gambling might have had on them, or how we have kind of got to gambling, and they want to understand that. and this is honestly the environment that allows them to do that safely. and this is one of the reasons women like rebecca had felt able to seek support. i don't think i ever would have come if there was males, just because i have had,
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i don't really... i am a bit funny with emotional connections with males, and just the fact that like, you are all women, you all feel so safe and secure, and actually as a woman, being a gambling addict is really hard. like, being a male gambling addict is, i guess is hard, but in society it is like, you are a woman — a woman runs a house, a woman is going to be the one that manages the finances. women have such, in society, such a big role to play — and actually, like, we are not really allowed to crumble because we are the caregivers. so what are the key differences between the way women and men gamble? dr venetia leonidaki is a consultant psychologist who works at the national problem gambling centre. so there are some distinct differences between female and male gamblers. one of the most well—known differences is how quickly
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the gambling disorder can develop in women as compared to men. they may end up being exposed to gambling in their late 20s or early 30s according to the literature, and then within a few years, five years, they may end up developing a gambling problem. how about some of the other psychology behind women and gambling? when it comes to women who are seeking treatment for gambling related harms, the clinical picture is more complex. so women often present with higher levels of psychological distress, or they may meet criteria for a greater number of clinical diagnoses, such as anxiety or depression. in fact research tells us that when it comes to female gamblers, anxiety and depression has preceded the onset of gambling. while for men, it is often the opposite —
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gambling comes first and then anxiety or depression follows. so it is quite common for women to use gambling to numb feelings, to escape from feelings, and what i have seen in my therapy sessions with female gamblers is they are much more interested in talking about relationships that have not been healthy or helpful in their lives, and more interested in talking about their emotions, they experience strong emotions. in april, the uk government published its long—awaited report into the gambling industry and the way it's regulated. it's proposed financial checks for people who lose large amounts of money in a short period of time and a limit on spending online, especially for those under 2a or considered vulnerable. but there was no mention of gambling advertising. that's despite the uk industry spending £1.5 billion a year on it. gambling advertising is regulated in this country.
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is it good enough, particularly when we think about keeping up with ever—changing technology? in the uk, we do have marketing guidance. you've got the advertising standards agency, which will adjudicate marketing adverts and all the rest of it, and there are rules as to what kind of products can be broadcast at what times. but that is not the same around the world. and what we're starting to see is in the emerging economies where perhaps people were not used to tv sets and traditional kind of forms of marketing, it's pivoted to influencers, to ambassadors, to role models who can kind of tweet alongside, you know, bets and things like that. so we need to find a way of developing laws and regulations that allow us to stay current with technology. in the uk, gambling adverts are increasingly prevalent on daytime tv, where more women are watching than men, which means advertisers are actively targeting them.
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looking through ads from around the world, it's clear to see how much more prominently women are being featured as the winners. introducing sa's first online betting live money wheel. (speaks foreign language) oh, what a stunner! 0h, babe, my team is losing. but i'm winning! adverts often present in aspirational, glamorous lifestyle... $25 on the house... ..and are targeted at a younger demographic who are more tech savvy, but potentially more at risk. your casino is always with you. at betano, all your favourite slots, plus blackjack, roulette and baccarat with live dealers... in certain countries where, culturally, there would be even more of a stigma attached to women in gambling, ijust wonder what the impact of that is. i think it's shifting, and we've got that kind of generational rift. the older generation —
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i think in emerging economies, so there's kind of south america, africa, parts of asia, the older generation would definitely not gamble, or if they did, it would be acceptable forms of gambling such as bingo linked to kind of churches and charitable causes, or in places like india, it wouldn't be poker, it might be rummy or the aunties who do rummy, little kind of tournaments and stuff. in places like africa, you have card games, but again, they're more traditional and cultural, not necessarily for cash. when we look at the younger generation, the tech savvy generation, those who see themselves as generation z for lack of a better phrase, it's different, and they're coming at things in a very, very different way. so i go to africa and seeing women in a betting shop in kenya is not unusual.
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back at the centre, alyssa, rebecca and caroline chat to the staff about how life is since leaving. how's it been outside of, like, treatment, now that you're back here? how does it feel? cos of you guys, i...i'm moving forward and not back and my family have now got a life too. thank you...for everything. you've taught me how to, like, love myself and that. - sorry... cos this makes me really emotional! i'm sorry. what is the one thing that has kept you going throughout recovery? what's your go—to thing? oh, it's gotta be football for me. laughs i didn't used to do anything whilst i were gambling, _ so when we played that football tournament, i rekindled- my passion and i play- five—a—side every week now. so i literally manifest
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everything, and i believe that nothing is not achievable. so i literally have, like, manifestation boards in my house, i have, like, positive affirmations on my phone that tell me i'm the best all the time. so one of my goals when i came in here was that i really wanted to be a lash tech, and ijust said it out of, like, a... it was, like, an unachievable dream and i remember... so i did my training and i'm now a lash tech and so... sorry, it makes me so emotional. but this sort of support is limited and the centre is unique. in the uk, 60% of profits from the gambling industry come from the 5% who are already problem gamblers or at risk of becoming so. so is there enough being done by the industry to prevent addiction? i think, like any other industry, you have good, you have bad, you have ugly. i think it's fair to say some in the industry who are very
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proactive and want to do the right thing, but like any other industry, we will have those who need a little bit of persuasion to kind of, you know, wake up and smell the coffee and that's where the regulator has a really pivotal role to play. and i have to say the fact that you're exploring women and gambling is fantastic because everything we've done historically is about men and gambling. so we need to start looking at this. the body which represents the industry in the uk, the betting and gaming council, told bbc news it's encouraged by the latest figures, which show rates of problem gambling among women are down on the previous year at 0.1%. they also say they'll donate more than £100 million to tackle harmful gambling. the betting and gaming council was unavailable for interview,
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comply with guidelines. the organisation said: a couple of months after spending time at the gordon moody centre, we travelled to wales where alyssa is now living at a recovery house for people who've struggled with addiction. they regularly get together to discuss how to improve the support. it's like a family. everyone supports each other. do you know, there's a lot of fun that happens here, and we go out and do a lot of stuff together as well, there's activity day every friday, and do a lot of walking and just people finding themselves, finding what they like. you lose all that in addiction. and she's now hoping to use her own experiences with gambling to help other people
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by setting up a support group. so it's in early stages, but there's a lot of interest from residents, which i was surprised at, because no—one really spoke about gambling. but i've brought it to attention, people are actually thinking, actually, maybe i did have a problem, and do you know, i want to raise awareness, i want...i want other people to be able to recognise before it gets too late. we check in with kaz who's getting more support for her gambling addiction. and rebecca is sharing herjourney on tiktok. i've been doing lots of positive things. i've celebrated 365 days gamble free, which isjust incredible. we've been decorating our home, we've been going on lots of days out, i've started a newjob, which i'm really, really happy in, i've been socialising with friends.
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just...just enjoying the life that i isolated myself on for so long. i've been also trying to reach out on social media platforms to educate people and kind ofjust support people if the support's there, and i've had lots of messages, you know, of people reaching out and wanting to access the services that i've talked about and just, even if they haven't, i've had lots of positive messages, you know, and i hope that in the future i can provide a bigger platform and educate people and help people in my area and bring a service to my area that helps people in need so they don't feel alone like i was. the true scale of the numbers of women addicted to gambling around the world isn't known because the data just doesn't exist. but what we do know is that it's an increasing problem that's often done in secret.
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while making this documentary, i've been struck by the courage of these women who've shared their stories so honestly with me. i mean, i haven't gambled, i haven't relapsed, and that's what's important to me, and every day is so new, like, we are... every day that i am gamble free is a new day for me. i've never been to that day before. so there's a lot of things that i have to learn and there's a lot of triggers that i'm gonna come across, but the main thing is that i am gamble free. if you have been affected
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by this story, head to: hot and hotand humid hot and humid morning for most of us today. we've got fresh weather ever tried pushing off the atlantic, preceding it there is this with a friend that will bring heavy infantry downpours for some through the rest of today. sunshine and showers for the afternoon, but when developing more widely through northern scotland. it is across eastern scotland and two the north—east of england where we are most likely to see some potentially severe thunderstorms later. a lot of rain in a short space of time and some disruption impossible. many will stay dry but close to the ashes and glastonbury later, look at that, and glastonbury later, look at that, a hot day. 30 to 32 celsius compared to something fresh in northern
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ireland. 17 to 19 degrees he has that fresh air starts to win over. and a win overfor all of that fresh air starts to win over. and a win over for all of this fruit night. it is not cold air, but certainly compared to what we have, we will notice the difference. evening thunderstorms across eastern parts of england will clear and it is mostly dry for the rest of the night. temperatures will drop back down to single figures in some rural areas but it is still not a cold night by any stretch of the imagination at around nine to 14 celsius in the major towns and cities. a big difference though for monday as the wind comes from the south. it means it will be as humid as it has been but it is still very pleasant with lots of sunshine around to begin with. a bit more clad bubbling up, a few showers in northern england, but even here many will stay dry for the bulk of the day. even if it turns hazy later, it will still feel warm at 18 to 2a celsius. thus temperatures are closer to normal for the time of year. we will see as agents of some muqqy year. we will see as agents of some
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