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is when i even hope and that is when i even sent the message to my family on shore, i said i am preparing. and the whereabouts of wagner mercenary boss, yevgeney priogzhin, are unknown following a deal reportedly struck by belarus for him to leave russia. hello i'm helena humphrey, thank you forjoining us. first to an exclusive interview with the wife and mother of two of the british passengers lost in the titan sub disaster in the north atlantic last week. christine dawood's husband shahzada dawood and son, 19—year—old suleman dawood, set off on their expedition one week ago before tragedy stuck. she told the bbc that her initial intention was to go on the trip herself, but she gave the spot to her son, because he was so excited by the prospect. she's been speaking to the bbc�*s nomia iqbal in stjohn�*s, newfoundland, from where the expedition had set off.
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thank you so much for talking to us. can i start off by asking you how you are. i think i developed — asking you how you are. i think i developed a _ asking you how you are. i think i developed a bit _ asking you how you are. i think i developed a bit of _ asking you how you are. i think i developed a bit of a _ asking you how you are. i think i developed a bit of a love - i developed a bit of a love hate relationship with this question. i think what the circumstances are concerned, i'm coping. but you know, i'm not doing very good. so... what has it been _ not doing very good. so... what has it been like _ not doing very good. so. .. what has it been like for— not doing very good. so... what has it been like for you, the - has it been like for you, the last week. it is unfathomable what you're going through but what you're going through but what has it been like? so, the sentence... "we lost com". i think that would be a sentence i never want to hear in my life. like lost com as in,
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we lost communication. i was sitting downstairs actually having a snack. i was sitting with people talking and then somebody came down and said," we lost come". and i think i didn't comprehend at that moment what that meant. —— com. and then itjust went downhill from there. so the first day was when the communication was lost fairly early on and then it was just waiting, like, 0k, are they going to come back up, and we werejust waiting for going to come back up, and we were just waiting for them to come back up and everybody was like oh, it's not uncommon, but they are going to come up. so onceit they are going to come up. so once it was confirmed and then from there it was just,
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once it was confirmed and then from there it wasjust, yeah... were you on board the vessel? yes, i was on board the vessel. i was on the ship. i was so seasick the first two days. the seasickness and then everything else went worse so i rather would be seasick than having to go through that, let's put it that way. it was just... i don't know. i'm not quite sure how to answer that question. quite sure how to answer that cuestion. �* . quite sure how to answer that question-— quite sure how to answer that cuestion. �* ., ., question. and that moment when ou were question. and that moment when you were told. — question. and that moment when you were told, "we _ question. and that moment when you were told, "we lost - question. and that moment when you were told, "we lost coms", l you were told, "we lost coms", i'm imagining it would have been a blur after that. we all thou~ht been a blur after that. we all thought they _ been a blur after that. we all thought they were _ been a blur after that. we all thought they were just - been a blur after that. we all thought they were just going | been a blur after that. we all i thought they were just going to come up. so that shock was
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delayed by about ten hours or so, by the time they were supposed to be up again, like there was a time, i should remember the time but when they were supposed to be up on the surface again and when that time passed, that's when the real shock, time passed, that's when the realshock, not time passed, that's when the real shock, not shock when the worry and the not so good feeling started. did worry and the not so good feeling started.— worry and the not so good feeling started. did you have ho -e feeling started. did you have hope throughout _ feeling started. did you have hope throughout the - feeling started. did you have| hope throughout the search? yes, yes, we had lots of hope. i think that is the only thing that got us through it because we were hoping and we talked about, you know, things that pilots can do like dropping weights and there were so many actions that people on the sub can—do in order to surface and it was like this rollercoaster,
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well, more like a wave. so first, yeah, 0k, well, more like a wave. so first, yeah, ok, then we dropped the weights but then the ascent will be slower so we were hoping for that and 0k, we were hoping for that and 0k, we were like constantly looking at the surface, so there was that hope. they were so many things we would go through that we think 0k, it isjust we would go through that we think 0k, it is just slow right now, slow right now, but there was a lot of hope, there was a lot of hope. and, i mean... i think i lost hope when we passed the 96 hours mark. that's when i lost hope. and that's when i sent a message to my family on shore. i said, "i am preparing for the worst". that's when i lost hope, but my daughter, for example,
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she didn't lose hope until the call with the coastguard, when they basically informed us that they found debris. that's when she also lost hope. and that is your 17—year—old. yes. and that is your 17-year-old. yes. �* , ., , , ., and that is your 17-year-old. yes. �* , ., yes. and she was with you on the vessel? — yes. and she was with you on the vessel? yes, _ yes. and she was with you on the vessel? yes, she - yes. and she was with you on the vessel? yes, she was - yes. and she was with you on| the vessel? yes, she was with me on the _ the vessel? yes, she was with me on the vessel. _ the vessel? yes, she was with me on the vessel. tell - the vessel? yes, she was with me on the vessel. tell me - the vessel? yes, she was with i me on the vessel. tell me about the support _ me on the vessel. tell me about the support you _ me on the vessel. tell me about the support you gave _ me on the vessel. tell me about the support you gave each - the support you gave each other. ,, , , . ., other. she is such an incredible, _ other. she is such an incredible, such - other. she is such an incredible, such an i other. she is such an - incredible, such an incredible young woman... she is so self—aware. throughout, because, 0k, we did — the doctor did give her something to help her sleep, just a sickness medication, nothing major, whichjust sickness medication, nothing major, which just helps sickness medication, nothing major, whichjust helps her a little bit and i was very glad for that because she actually got a good rest and i think
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that helped her to cope but she was a very hopeful person and she was a very, or is a very hopeful person. shejust hopeful person. she just believed, hopeful person. shejust believed, she believes in science and she really believed that, no, just like if you have a plane, you believe that —— when you board a plane you believe in the sides and the mechanics and you believe in that and therefore she didn't lose hope. that and therefore she didn't lose hope-— that and therefore she didn't lose hoe. ~ ., . lose hope. what made you lose ho -e lose hope. what made you lose hope yet? _ lose hope. what made you lose hope yet? when _ lose hope. what made you lose hope yet? when we _ lose hope. what made you lose hope yet? when we crossed - lose hope. what made you lose | hope yet? when we crossed the 96 hours _ hope yet? when we crossed the 96 hours they _ hope yet? when we crossed the 96 hours. they said _ hope yet? when we crossed the 96 hours. they said four - hope yet? when we crossed the 96 hours. they said four days i 96 hours. they said four days of oxygen in the cabin, that is when i lost hope. i tried really hard not to show it to her and i really tried hard not to let it get to me but yeah, no, that's when i lost hope. i want you to tell me a little bit about your husband first of
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all. tell me about your husband.— all. tell me about your husband. ~ husband. when i met him, i didn't even _ husband. when i met him, i didn't even speak _ husband. when i met him, i didn't even speak english i husband. when i met him, i didn't even speak english atj didn't even speak english at that point. he was so interested in german history. he knew more about german history than i did. that was quite awkward.— history than i did. that was quite awkward. you're like, 0k, how do you _ quite awkward. you're like, 0k, how do you know _ quite awkward. you're like, 0k, how do you know more! - quite awkward. you're like, 0k, how do you know more! he - quite awkward. you're like, 0k, how do you know more! he was| how do you know more! he was like a history. _ how do you know more! he was like a history, not— how do you know more! he was like a history, not free, - how do you know more! he was like a history, not free, but - like a history, not free, but very interested in history. he would not watch tv, he doesn't watch movies, he would watch documentaries. at every hour of the day he could which makes like, you know, if you are tied in the evening, sometimes quite, you know, you don't want to learn at eight o'clock at
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night when you just want to, like, watch some soap opera, no. he would make us all watch like the david attenborough, he loves david attenborough. he would make us watch that and, the children loved it. i guess his enthusiasm brought the best out of me and so i really learned to love history as well. he was really able to through his knowledge to inspire and motivate others. like, because of the depth of knowledge he has about things, he would at some point something resonated with anybody, like some story he would tell and then people would tell and then people would just start listening. tell me about your son suleyman
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then. —— suleman. tell me some memories you have of your boy. he would never go anywhere without his rubiks group. —— he would not go anywhere without his rubik cube. he used to teach himself through youtube, how to solve it, and he was really fast at it. i think his best was 12 seconds. and he would go anywhere, once we travelled. how old was he? maybe 12, 13, i don't remember how old he was, still quite a bit younger, and we went through the airport, through the check—in, no, not the chicken, the security. so suleman was doing his rubik cube and the security guard is asking what he was doing and he says oh, i am solving a rubiks cube! and he said you can't do that. so he let the security guard mix it up, he solved it
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and then the security guard took them all the way to the front of the line and he says if you go, because that is impressive. so he was practical. so suleman and i were very practical and the practical side, were very practical and the practicalside, he were very practical and the practical side, he was always like that stop was he a real mother's boy? i don't know. he loved his father but yes, i guess, he would come and hug but he would hug both of us actually. well, no. from my part he definitely was.- actually. well, no. from my part he definitely was. how is alina? as _ part he definitely was. how is alina? as i — part he definitely was. how is alina? as i said _ part he definitely was. how is alina? as i said she _ part he definitely was. how is alina? as i said she is - part he definitely was. how is alina? as i said she is an - alina? as i said she is an incredible _ alina? as i said she is an incredible human - alina? as i said she is an incredible human being. | alina? as i said she is an i incredible human being. we alina? as i said she is an - incredible human being. we are each other. and she has turned, i think, full mother hen. she loves to take care of people so
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right now she is really happy-- right now she is really happy... well, "happy", taking care of her younger cousin. is care of her younger cousin. is she looking after mum? care of her younger cousin. isj she looking after mum? after me? in a _ she looking after mum? after me? in a way- _ she looking after mum? after me? in a way. but— she looking after mum? after me? in a way. but i _ she looking after mum? after me? in a way. but i think- she looking after mum? after me? in a way. but i think our| me? in a way. but i think our relationship, we talk a lot because of always have. and we are very open with each other so if we need space we are able to say that so if she says i need space then i will give her that and the same. i think we support each other. i don't think that one is taking care of the other more, i think it is a really equal relationship with she is quite phenomenal because she is only 17. you have the — because she is only 17. you have the funeral _ because she is only 17. you have the funeral pair- because she is only 17. you have the funeral pair this i have the funeral pair this prayer this morning. how was it? it prayer this morning. how was it? ., , prayer this morning. how was it? ._ it? it was actually quite
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beautiful. _ it? it was actually quite beautiful. the - it? it was actually quite beautiful. the man - it? it was actually quite j beautiful. the man who it? it was actually quite - beautiful. the man who did the service was very inclusive and said a prayerfor all five service was very inclusive and said a prayer for all five of them and i really appreciated that because everybody deserves prayer, i don't think it should be separated by faith anyway. kept it private so it was just the direct community but... did it hel ? the direct community but... did it help? i _ the direct community but. .. did it help? ithink— the direct community but... did it help? | think it _ the direct community but... did it help? | think it did. _ the direct community but... did it help? | think it did. so - it help? i think it did. so alina was— it help? i think it did. so alina was next _ it help? i think it did. so alina was next to - it help? i think it did. so alina was next to me - it help? i think it did. so | alina was next to me and it help? i think it did. so - alina was next to me and while we were kneeling on the floor saying the prayers, our knees touched and then ijust grabbed her hand and we just really squeezed each other and that was a really beautiful moment.
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if you want to share this, christine, i wondered what were your last moments or words that your last moments or words that you shared with your husband and son? do you remember that? wejust hugged and joked, actually. because shahzada was so excited to go down. he was like a little child. was that a lifelong dream? yes, absolutely. he had this ability of childlike excitement, so they both were so excited. like suleman i think two years ago also, he did 10,000 piece lego titanic so he really loved that and he was so excited. so he applied for a world record because he wanted to solve the
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rubiks cube at the deepest point, unfortunately he got rejected but we said we are still going to film it and he said i am going to solve the rubiks cube at 3700 metres below ground, billo c, at the titanic. and he was so excited about this —— sea. titanic. and he was so excited about this -- sea.— titanic. and he was so excited about this -- sea. how do you beain about this -- sea. how do you begin to _ about this -- sea. how do you begin to get — about this -- sea. how do you begin to get closure? - about this -- sea. how do you begin to get closure? i - about this -- sea. how do you begin to get closure? i know. begin to get closure? i know this sounds like a very difficult question. if that is even possible. is difficult question. if that is even possible.— difficult question. if that is even possible. is there such a thin ? i even possible. is there such a thing? i don't _ even possible. is there such a thing? i don't know. - ithink... he i think... he started so many amazing projects. he was involved in so many, he helped so many people and i think we
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really want to continue that legacy. and give him that platform where his work is still continued and it is quite important for my daughter as well. to be remembered and alina and i said both we're going to learn how to the rubiks cube. that was my going to be a challenge for us because we are really bad at it. but we want to learn it. 12 seconds. yes. _ it. but we want to learn it. 12 seconds. yes. we _ it. but we want to learn it. 12 seconds. yes. we promised. seconds. yes. we promised ourselves — seconds. yes. we promised ourselves we _ seconds. yes. we promised ourselves we are _ seconds. yes. we promised ourselves we are going - seconds. yes. we promised ourselves we are going to i seconds. yes. we promised - ourselves we are going to learn it for two and we are going to... suleman loved movies and we said we're going to sit and watch every single movie that he lacked, we're going to do that. —— that he liked. is that. -- that he liked. is there that. —— that he liked. is there anything else that you
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want to add, christine? m there anything else that you want to add, christine? i don't know, want to add, christine? i don't know. no- _ want to add, christine? i don't know, no. but— want to add, christine? i don't know, no. but i _ want to add, christine? i don't know, no. but i miss- want to add, christine? i don't know, no. but i miss them. i. know, no. but i miss them. i really, really miss them. yeah. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. these young ukrainians are making artwork out of glass but they also have lessons in writing a cv, accessing support services, cultural lessons about bristol and have been climbing and kayaking. this is a six year medical student from ukraine and needs the help of the trust to get any further. l the trust to get any further. i hope they will continue to continue my medical study here, helping with the transfer of my qualifications and an application scholarship will be
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very good for me. it application scholarship will be very good for me.— very good for me. it would be amazin: very good for me. it would be amazing if— very good for me. it would be amazing if you _ very good for me. it would be amazing if you could - very good for me. it would be amazing if you could pack i very good for me. it would bej amazing if you could pack this here. it amazing if you could pack this here. ., , , . here. it would be very nice. ivana here. it would be very nice. lvana has — here. it would be very nice. ivana has been _ here. it would be very nice. ivana has been in _ here. it would be very nice. ivana has been in bristol. here. it would be very nice. | ivana has been in bristolfor here. it would be very nice. i ivana has been in bristolfor a ivana has been in bristol for a year. she feels the course this week has helped.— week has helped. there are opportunities _ week has helped. there are opportunities to _ week has helped. there are opportunities to find - week has helped. there are opportunities to find jobs i week has helped. there are i opportunities to find jobs with organisations who can help in this is really great. the courses _ this is really great. the courses help _ this is really great. the courses help 35 - this is really great. the courses help 35 people | this is really great. the courses help 35 people in the last year and hope to run more sessions going forward. you're live with bbc news. to russia — where many questions remain unanswered a day after the wagner chief, yevgeny prigozhin, abandoned his short—lived rebellion against the kremlin. currently — the whereabouts of both prigozhin and russian president vladimir putin are unknown. the wagner chief was thought to be heading into exile in belarus after agreeing to end his advance on moscow. well, the rebellion and subsequent retreat, surprised many — and is being seen as the most serious challenge to president putin's grip on power in over 20 years. here's us secretary
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of state anthony blinken. i think we are in the mid of a moving picture. we have not seen the final act. we are watching closely and carefully step back and put this into context. 16 months ago russian forces were on the doorstep of kyiv and the ukraine thinking they would take the city in a matter of the days. 0ver they would take the city in a matter of the days. over this weekend they have had to defend moscow, their own capital against mercenary is of putin's own making. prigozhin in him this entire incident has raised profound questions about the premises of the russian aggression against ukraine in the first place saying that ukraine and nato did not pose a front that makes threat to russia. this raises profound questions and shows real cracks. we cannot speculate nor know where that will go. we know where that will go. we know putin has a lot more to answer for in the weeks and months ahead. it is unclear what will happen
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next to prigozhin and his ranks of mercenary soldiers, who have been key in russia's war on ukraine, as the bbc�*s steve rosenberg reports from moscow. leaving as heroes. the wagnerfighters, pulling out of rostov last night. you'd think they'd just won a war. the leader of the mercenary group, yevgeny prigozhin, was off, too. he'd just done a deal with the kremlin to end their mutiny. the rebellion started here, then spread north. it was the biggest challenge to vladimir putin's authority since he came to power. vladimir vladimirovich putin. russia's commander—in—chief likes to project an image of strength and mutiny on his watch is embarrassing. but is it damaging? foeradimir putin, will there be political fallout ahead of next year's election? he definitely looks weaker. all elite groups will begin to think
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about the presidency, 2021i. should they rely, as they did even one week before this military coup, on vladimir putin? or should they think about someone new? but there's no sign yet that someone new in the kremlin is mr putin's plan. vladimir putin is determined to show that he's in charge, in control, in the kremlin. and he has the russian state media to help him paint that picture. trouble is, the dramatic events of the last couple of days have raised questions about how in control the russian authorities are of the situation here. instability. russians can feel it. the rebel wagner fighters may not have made it to moscow, but people here were watching nervously and waiting.
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"i'm a mother with three children," anna tells me. "of course i'm terrified about what has happened." "we were scared these events would spread to moscow," nastya says. "there's nothing ordinary citizens could do to "influence the situation. "it's decided above our heads." many russians tell me that. they don't believe they have the power to change what is happening in their country. to make their voices heard. to turn things around. steve rosenberg, bbc news, moscow. wales is becoming even more associated with dragons — after rumours that filming for the second series of the game of thrones spin off, �*house of the dragon' has got under way in the country. the production is being kept under wraps — and under a code name — to reduce crowds, as matthew richards reports. golden globes winning house of the dragon was an international hit when it launched last
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summer in the cast includes a welsh actor. if you want dragons, come to wales. filming has been taking place at two quarries and this was the scene near anglesey. quarries and this was the scene nearanglesey. rumour quarries and this was the scene near anglesey. rumour has it that this is another filming location. security is tight and there is security around what is happening. officially all we know is that there has been a casting call for local actors. local residents are upbeat about their area potentially providing the backdrop for the show. ., , . ., , providing the backdrop for the show. . ., , show. people chase down these locations so _ show. people chase down these locations so i _ show. people chase down these locations so i think _ show. people chase down these locations so i think there - show. people chase down these locations so i think there will. locations so i think there will be more people into the town and we do need that. i be more people into the town and we do need that.- be more people into the town and we do need that. i like the show a lot _ and we do need that. i like the show a lot anyway _ and we do need that. i like the show a lot anyway so - and we do need that. i like the show a lot anyway so it - and we do need that. i like the show a lot anyway so it will i and we do need that. i like the show a lot anyway so it will be | show a lot anyway so it will be exciting — show a lot anyway so it will be exciting to see the local mountain scape put into the show — mountain scape put into the show. ~ , ,. , show. with the stunning scenery we have here — show. with the stunning scenery we have here i _ show. with the stunning scenery we have here i think— show. with the stunning scenery we have here i think it _ show. with the stunning scenery we have here i think it is - we have here i think it is fabulous _ we have here i think it is fabulous to— we have here i think it is fabulous to share - we have here i think it is fabulous to share that. i | we have here i think it is fabulous to share that. i used to live in _ fabulous to share that. i used to live in yorkshire _ fabulous to share that. i used to live in yorkshire and i fabulous to share that. i used to live in yorkshire and since| to live in yorkshire and since summer wine you cannot get near
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the place for tourists. i5 summer wine you cannot get near the place for tourists.— the place for tourists. is that a aood the place for tourists. is that a good or— the place for tourists. is that a good or bad _ the place for tourists. is that a good or bad thing? - the place for tourists. is that a good or bad thing? i i the place for tourists. is that a good or bad thing? i do i the place for tourists. is that | a good or bad thing? i do not know. a good or bad thing? i do not know- our — a good or bad thing? i do not know. our daughter - a good or bad thing? i do not know. our daughter is - a good or bad thing? i do not know. our daughter is in i know. our daughter is in danger- _ know. our daughter is in danger. house _ know. our daughter is in danger. house of- know. our daughter is in danger. house of the i know. our daughter is in i danger. house of the dragon joins other programmes shot in wales. that is why organisations such as screen alliance wales are trying to supply big productions with the next generation of talent from directors to electricians and graft people. this workshop covers everything from marketing to special effect and helps them to explore's potential careers.- helps them to explore's potential careers. they can come and _ potential careers. they can come and work _ potential careers. they can come and work as - potential careers. they can come and work as a - potential careers. they can i come and work as a carpenter and build a television set, we need accountants, we have people and we want more creative people to be writing stories in english and welsh and all the other aspects, there are countless different skill sets we require within the industry.— skill sets we require within the indust . . , ., , the industry. the welsh economy is also getting — the industry. the welsh economy is also getting a _ the industry. the welsh economy is also getting a boost _ the industry. the welsh economy is also getting a boost from i is also getting a boost from its newfound popularity with filmmakers.— its newfound popularity with filmmakers. ., ., ., filmmakers. look at ireland and see what games _
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filmmakers. look at ireland and see what games have _ filmmakers. look at ireland and see what games have thrown i filmmakers. look at ireland and | see what games have thrown did for them. see what games have thrown did forthem. it see what games have thrown did for them. it is worth millions. and and when families know where a big film was filmed they want to come and visit. it could be some time but eventually our incredible scenery will once more be the centre of attention. it is good night from us here in washington, dc and good morning to our colleagues taking over from london. iwill see to our colleagues taking over from london. i will see you soon. goodbye for now. hello. we ended the weekend with some very big contrasts in our weather. across many northern parts of the uk, the heavens opened — downpours in places with thunder and lightning, gusty winds, too. this is what it looked like earlier on the satellite image as that cold front swept across the country and you can see where all lightning has been. this is now mostly out to sea and the skies have cleared across many western areas. all the while, further
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south in lincolnshire, temperatures reached 32.2 celsius. and many will be pleased to hear that the week ahead is looking a lot fresher, but it will be a changeable one with some rain at times for our parks and gardens. let's have a look at the forecast, then, as we head through monday. that weather front is now well out to sea, and behind it, we've got these fresher atlantic conditions, so in the morning, belfast, 12 celsius, 13 in birmingham and around 15 expected in norwich and london. and it's going to be a beautiful sunny morning and a fine afternoon as well with scattered fair—weather clouds developing and, yes, a few showers will develop across northern ireland, parts of scotland and northern england, too. how about the temperatures? about average for the time of the year — 18 in glasgow, 23 expected in london. now, tuesday's weather map shows another low pressure heading our way, so cloud and rain, yes, but this one is also going to push in rather humid and warm air from the southern climbs — subtropicalair, infact, so extensive layered cloud across the uk. a lot of rain across northern and northwestern areas. towards the southwest, quite murky around some coasts, and it will feel quite close, even though the temperatures
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won't be that high — 22 in london, 20 in belfast. if the sun pops out, it will turn a little warmer. and it will be a slow process for this low pressure to swing by because on wednesday, this cold front is still moving across the uk, and that will give one or two downpours, especially across the northern half of the uk. ahead of that cold front, it's still very warm on wednesday in london, and norwich about 25 celsius. that takes us towards the end of the week, and the jet stream will push in yet another low pressure, but that one will bring rain mostly to northwestern parts of the uk — not much rainfall expected in the south. so, let's have a look at the week ahead — at a glance, quite a changeable week. i think temperatures will be pleasant. bye— bye.
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