welcome to hardtalk. back in 2015, world leaders pledged to speed up cuts in greenhouse gas emissions in a bid to stop our planet warming by more than 1.5 degrees over preindustrial levels. most climate scientists now believe that threshold will be crossed and soon. as a result, many millions of people around the world face potentially life—threatening climate related disruption. my guest is patrick verkooijen, founder of the global centre on adaptation. is his focus on making the world climate change resilient that the battle to cut emissions has been lost?

patrick verkooijen, welcome to hardtalk. patrick verkooi'en, welcome to hardtalk. ., ~ , ., patrick verkooi'en, welcome to hardtalk. ., ~ ,, , hardtalk. thank you, stephen. now, ou hardtalk. thank you, stephen. now. you are — hardtalk. thank you, stephen. now, you are all— hardtalk. thank you, stephen. now, you are all about - now, you are all about adaptation. your global centre on adaptation is sending a clear message to the world that it is time to make, particularly the most vulnerable parts of the world, resilient to the impacts of climate change. does that mean you basically accepted we've lost the battle to curb emissions and prevent the worst of climate change?— emissions and prevent the worst of climate change? thank you so much, stephen. _ of climate change? thank you so much, stephen. we _ of climate change? thank you so much, stephen. we need - of climate change? thank you so much, stephen. we need to - of climate change? thank you so i much, stephen. we need to adapt to a warmer climate. we now see that we have already on the threshold of 1.2 celsius. investing in adaptation is not defeat, stephen. it's defence. it makes economic sense to invest in climate adaptation but at the same time we also

need to lower our carbon footprint, so we need to have these two ideas in our heads and invest in both areas. lower our carbon foot rent and adapt to a changing climate. so our carbon foot rent and adapt to a changing climate.- to a changing climate. so do both at once, _ to a changing climate. so do both at once, but _ to a changing climate. so do both at once, but you - to a changing climate. so do both at once, but you knowl to a changing climate. so do i both at once, but you know as well as i do, because he worked at world bank and you've been in this game a long time, you know the political decisions are all about making tough choices. they are about defining priorities. do you sense that there needs to be a shift of priorities towards this idea of adaptation? adaptation has been and is still the poor cousin of the climate debate, not enough financial resources are being put on the table to adapt our world, notjust even in the global south but also in the united states, we see the forest fires earlier this month from canada, the droughts in the horn of africa, the heat across the globe. we have to invest. and the good thing,

stephen, is, the good news, it makes economic sense. why? because a global commission on adaptation led by bill grates and ban ki—moon, former secretary general of united nations, says that if the world was to invest $1.7 trillion in climate adaptation before 2030, the net economic benefit is $7.1 trillion us, so it's not only the right thing to do, stephen, it's the smart thing to do. i stephen, it's the smart thing to do. ., ., ., , stephen, it's the smart thing todo. ., ., ., , to do. i do want to unpick some of those figures _ to do. i do want to unpick some of those figures with _ to do. i do want to unpick some of those figures with you - to do. i do want to unpick some of those figures with you and i of those figures with you and look particularly at the case of adaptation and the return you would get four adaptation policies in africa. i want to go into that but before i do that, one general point about human psychology. do you think there is not a danger that if you essentially say to the world there are ways in which we can learn to live with significant climate change, you actually give something of a

license to the polluters to continue to believe they can continue to believe they can continue the emissions of greenhouse gases. it gives them something of a pass. mat something of a pass. not reall , something of a pass. not really. i _ something of a pass. not really, i would _ something of a pass. not really, i would think. - something of a pass. iirrt really, i would think. because there is no way to adapt ourselves out of the climate breakdown. we still have to reduce drastically our carbon emissions sooner rather than later. but recognising this, evenif later. but recognising this, even if you were to live up to the 1.5 celsius target which you mentioned, stephen, and we are not on track, we see already the climate catastrophe around us so we simply have to adapt on the changes of today which will get much worse tomorrow. which will get much worse tomorrow— which will get much worse tomorrow. �*, ., , ., tomorrow. let's now begin to unick tomorrow. let's now begin to unpick some _ tomorrow. let's now begin to unpick some of _ tomorrow. let's now begin to unpick some of those - tomorrow. let's now begin to unpick some of those figures| unpick some of those figures that you began to give me. the bottom line seems clear. for years, actually, the rich world, the industrialised world, the industrialised world, has been making promises about the degree to which it is prepared to provide financial

support and assistance to the most vulnerable emerging economies when it comes to climate change impact, coping with them. the promises have been made, up to $100 billion a year was supposed to be transferred but those promises have not been kept.— have not been kept. why? indeed. — have not been kept. why? indeed. it _ have not been kept. why? indeed, it is _ have not been kept. why? indeed, it is shameful- have not been kept. why? | indeed, it is shameful that these promises have not been kept, $100 billion was supposed to flow from the global north to flow from the global north to the global south. the world hasn't delivered on that, the rich world hasn't delivered on that and the argument is that these are actually very complicated times economically. exactly. slow growth, high inflation, cost of living, multiple crises but the reality is this — the world has to come together. become united on this agenda. it is in the interest also of the global north that the whole world adapt because it's simply connected. in essence. _ it's simply connected. in

essence, your eyes climate lobbyist of sorts and you must appreciate that at the time of the ukraine war, which has had major impacts on the global economy, a sort of food cost crisis around the world which again, is partly the result of the ukraine war, and the long—term after—effects of the covid pandemic, this is a terrible time to be telling taxpayers in the industrialised world that they are going to have to accept fronting up and paying for this massive adaptation programme that you want to see in the emerging economies. want to see in the emerging economies-_ want to see in the emerging economies. , ., ., want to see in the emerging economies. ,., ., ., economies. indeed, so we have a covid crisis. _ economies. indeed, so we have a covid crisis. we — economies. indeed, so we have a covid crisis, we have _ economies. indeed, so we have a covid crisis, we have a _ covid crisis, we have a conflict crisis as you mentioned from ukraine and on top of that, the climate crisis. the reality is is that the climate added patient agenda, in essence, as lord nicholas stern indicated, is a growth agenda, a jobs agenda, so it is a smart economics to invest because the return on

investments are much higher than the cost of bringing them to the table.— to the table. fine with that. you a financing _ to the table. fine with that. you a financing adaptation i to the table. fine with that. | you a financing adaptation is 90% more cost—effective than paying for increasingly frequent disaster responses that we had to indulge in, from forest fires to flooding and hurricane relief. you say it's so obvious, but how can you actually prove that? let so obvious, but how can you actually prove that?- actually prove that? let me cive actually prove that? let me give you — actually prove that? let me give you an _ actually prove that? let me give you an example - actually prove that? let me give you an example from i actually prove that? let me l give you an example from the field. recently i was in kenya, when you sit with a farmer who is using drought tolerant crops, amidst the worst drought in the last a0 years, and what you see when the sort of new technologies are used, you see it is going up, not down, the yield, so that farmer is in a position to bring food to the table, even amidst this climate emergency so the 500 million smallholder farmers emergency so the 500 million smallholderfarmers in

emergency so the 500 million smallholder farmers in the world, these solutions from canyon needs to be brought to the rest of africa, in fact, to the rest of africa, in fact, to the rest of the world. —— kenya. the rest of the world. -- kenya-— the rest of the world. -- ken a. , ., ., kenya. is there also a degree to which you _ kenya. is there also a degree to which you are _ kenya. is there also a degree to which you are using - kenya. is there also a degree to which you are using a - kenya. is there also a degree to which you are using a fear| to which you are using a fear factor in your arguments in paying for adaptation? i notice your recent statements, you are putting and more emphasis on the degree to which we see a mass distillation of people, mass distillation of people, mass migration from the most vulnerable parts of the world, would you say will be introducing new levels of economic crisis and chaos to the industrialised world. is migration the card that you hold to frighten people? it’s hold to frighten people? it's not too hold to frighten people? it�*s not too frightened, it's not a card to hold but it's a reality on the ground. the world bank figures are very clear. let's take central america and mexico. it's expected if climate adaptation affects agriculture system and infrastructure systems, other

measures are not put in place, millions of people from central america and mexico will go up north to the united states so explicit this flow of migrants to become a wave perhaps, even a soon army. that is the reality and to avoid that, the flipside is, to avoid that is very important best in the drivers of this migration. it seems a particular focus of yours is africa, you are working on a particular africa adaptation fund. you say, and the un backs this up, that africa needs to raise, and i think this is right, an average of roughly 120 something billion dollars a year to adapt to the already happening impacts of global warming and currently they are receiving just $28 billion of that needed $124 just $28 billion of that needed $12a billion. just $28 billion of that needed $124 billion. it just $28 billion of that needed $12a billion. it seems to me that the message isn't cutting through, so how are you, as the

chief of a big lobby organisation, going to change that? , , �* that? the message isn't getting throu~h that? the message isn't getting through yet _ that? the message isn't getting through yet because _ that? the message isn't getting through yet because eight - that? the message isn't getting through yet because eight of. through yet because eight of the ten most vulnerable nations in the world indeed are in africa. africa has not caused this climate breakdown, less than a% of greenhouse gas emissions are from the african continent, but these african leaders, they have united, they have put on the table the largest, boldest programme on adaptation. indeed, the africa adaptation. indeed, the africa adaptation acceleration programme. $25 billion needs to be capitalised for the next five years, we are going to put in half of it which we have done, and reach out to the global north, to the rich nations. now it is your turn to partner with us, to dance with us and put your other half on the table. us and put your other half on the table-— us and put your other half on the table. ., , ., ., , the table. you staged a summit before the _ the table. you staged a summit before the sharm _ the table. you staged a summit before the sharm el-sheikh - the table. you staged a summit| before the sharm el-sheikh cop before the sharm el—sheikh cop meeting last year, to try and

encourage western leaders to support this african adaptation fund. how much tangible support, real cash did you get? in the billions already. in the first 2a months of this programme, $5.2 billion has been invested on the ground which means food on the table in african households which means resilient infrastructure. we already established the need is for $12a billion per year. by is for $12a billion per year. by billion dollars, sorry to use an analogy that involves water, but is a drop in the bucket. . ., , ., , bucket. hence more needs to be done and hence _ bucket. hence more needs to be done and hence why _ bucket. hence more needs to be done and hence why it _ bucket. hence more needs to be done and hence why it is - bucket. hence more needs to be done and hence why it is so - done and hence why it is so important that the international financial market sector will be made fit for purpose in the coming years. that is now a moment of truth in the coming months. in fact, president macron, prime minister modi are convening a process to make international financial system work for all the buzz.

financial system work for all the bun-— financial system work for all the buzz. , ., ~ , the buzz. do you think there is a particular— the buzz. do you think there is a particular problem _ the buzz. do you think there is a particular problem in - a particular problem in convincing western leaders, and let's face it, most of them are elected politicians who work on for years or five years election cycles, convincing them that they need to persuade their voters, their taxpayers, that they are going to have to come up with significant sums of money to invest in, for example, more resilient food production systems in africa, better flood defences, all those sorts of things which your organisation is committed to but which idsa taxpayers in hard—pressed economies in the west may not be convinced should be a priority. the same taxoayers _ should be a priority. the same taxoayers in — should be a priority. the same taxpayers in the _ should be a priority. the same taxpayers in the west - should be a priority. the same taxpayers in the west are - should be a priority. the same taxpayers in the west are also j taxpayers in the west are also experiencing the climate emergency, climate takedown. that's why they wanted dealt with in their countries. fist that's why they wanted dealt with in their countries. at the same time — with in their countries. at the same time these _ with in their countries. at the same time these same - with in their countries. at the - same time these same taxpayers are very invested in migration stream, in trade flows. trade

flows, supply chains are being disrupted as we speak because of the climate emergency so the idea that we can just solve this problem in splendid isolation i think is wrong. we are connected in this, we are unified in this and hence the resources have to blow, starting with the reform of the world bank system itself. irate world bank system itself. we focused this _ world bank system itself. we focused this conversation on what the west can come up with and provide. how much do you care about china and how much are you believing now that you and others need to put on china to come up with adaptation resources because china, let us not forget, is now the second biggest economy in the world it is also responsible for one third of all current greenhouse gas emissions.— gas emissions. there is no solution. _ gas emissions. there is no solution, stephen, - gas emissions. there is no j solution, stephen, without china and the united states, as a matter of fact, to move forward on the climate agenda. the two largest emitters in the world have to come together and find a unified pathway forward. they signed an agreement on

this only two years ago in glasgow that they work individually, jointly and with other countries to really address the climate crisis but china, like every other nation, is struggling with decarbonise in its economy while at the same time... and it's still building... coal—fired plants and they phase as they are committed to do because of the same time they are investing heavily in renewables and solar power and that is exactly the sort of direction of travel, china needs to move forward, is moving forward and needs to do more, has more ambition. but that increased ambition, stephen, applies to all nations in the world which is why the climate summit at the end of this year is such an important moment because it gives us a picture how far off track we are in terms of the climate takedown, in terms of the actions to solve this and at the same time, it has to identify the priority areas and climate adaptation should be

front and centre. i’m climate adaptation should be front and centre.— climate adaptation should be front and centre. i'm sure you are familiar _ front and centre. i'm sure you are familiar with _ front and centre. i'm sure you are familiar with the - front and centre. i'm sure you are familiar with the law - front and centre. i'm sure you are familiar with the law of. are familiar with the law of unintended consequences. isn't there a grave danger that if you get your way and you funnel vast new financial resources into some of the world's most vulnerable countries when it comes to climate change, that you are going to as activate a whole host of problems, —— exacerbate. exacerbating social and economic injustices to actually playing into new levels of corruption? where are these resources _ levels of corruption? where are these resources going? - levels of corruption? where are these resources going? let's i these resources going? let's take bangladesh. 1970, 50 years ago cyclone waller came to harness into bangladesh. 500,000 people died. why? it did not have an early warning system and in 2019, a similar cyclone came, only 12 people died. that's very practical

solutions on adaptation which basically saves lives and saves livelihood and it makes economic sense. interesting dimension — economic sense. interesting dimension bangladesh i economic sense. interesting dimension bangladesh and i| dimension bangladesh and i believe your global is involved in some of the efforts in bangladesh to improve flood defences. a study from the research and world development journal in 2021 book to some of these bangladeshi projects and actually discovered that they were having counter—productive effects. they left millions of people dependent on unmaintained, ill suited infrastructure and actually, in some cases, appeared to encourage more development in areas i was recently there. it's the second largest port city in the southern part of bangladesh. i met with local communities. they fled their homes and houses because of the incoming floods because of the saltwater intrusion and they

came and migrated their and yes their situation was desperate and the services were not there but stephen, the important point is... but stephen, the important point ism— but stephen, the important oint is... ,, ,, ~ , point is... crosstalk. these same women _ point is... crosstalk. these same women come _ point is... crosstalk. these same women come up - point is... crosstalk. these same women come up with i point is... crosstalk. these | same women come up with the people's adaptation plan. timer;r people's adaptation plan. they know best _ people's adaptation plan. they know best what _ people's adaptation plan. they know best what type _ people's adaptation plan. they know best what type of - know best what type of intervention should be needed but what is important, talking about finance, these people's allocation plans carried by these women groups need to be funded and that's why the international finance institutions need to come to the table, to fund these bottom—up processes, the perspectives of local communities living on the front lines are being brought into the equation of solutions. yeah. crosstalk. you say local people know best but it seems indigenous and local peoples in many adaptation developments have actually lost out. take a couple of examples, incel tomey, a project to make farming more resilient was only given to those who made —— who

owned land and made the land was even more marginalised than in vietnam a hydroelectric dram and forest project which was meant to regulate floods in low land areas was found to be counter—productive give for the mountain people who lived above the dam, who are more vulnerable to climate impacts as a result. this means that some of the work you are doing and the money you are investing is actually harming people you're to help.— is actually harming people you're to help. and hence it is so important _ you're to help. and hence it is so important to _ you're to help. and hence it is so important to standardise i so important to standardise what is good adaptation, what counters adaptation, which euro, dollar, pound flows to adaptation is going into these standards and the multilateral development banks have these standards and the rest of the world should simply adopt the standard into their sort of transparency.— standard into their sort of transparency. with all due res - ect transparency. with all due respect you _ transparency. with all due respect you are _ transparency. with all due respect you are an - transparency. with all due | respect you are an outsider transparency. with all due i respect you are an outsider who looks in on these communities. lisa schipper, climate researcher the university of oxford, said imposing foreign 0xford, said imposing foreign systems and technologies on indigenous and vulnerable

people, it is easy to perpetuate in a pipe —— inequalities and would you accept she has a point? she does and — accept she has a point? she does and the _ accept she has a point? she does and the point - accept she has a point? she does and the point is - accept she has a point? me: does and the point is this, it's exactly why we need to turn the table and get these local communities much more integrated in the position marker for decision—making and is what we do with this africa adaptation acceleration program. local communities are at the heart of the solution. can you munkara, the largest slum in nairobi, —— kenya. they are living on the front lines and they came up with a plan and they came up with a plan and they came up with a plan and the financing is flowing to what their priorities are. what's not to like?- what their priorities are. what's not to like? you make it sound as though _ what's not to like? you make it sound as though it's _ what's not to like? you make it sound as though it's all - what's not to like? you make it sound as though it's all going . sound as though it's all going swimmingly. the truth is transparency international last year wrote a report on corruption and climate finance and they concluded the world has seen a vast increase in climate funding but the effectiveness of what it can achieve threatened by

corruption which finds fertile ground in vast sums of money involved and you want these vast sums of money and you cannot tell me you can root out the corruption which often goes with those vast sums of money? the same time, of course, the world needs these vast sums of money but not as a sunk cost. but again, as an investment. crosstalk. my point is... point is how these _ crosstalk. my point is... point is how these resources - crosstalk. my point is... point is how these resources being i is how these resources being spent? that's exactly why we more transparency, more accountability in the global financial system. what is needed. not in large parts of money which we should but at the same time also think about, rethink systems, finance flows... rethink systems, finance flows- - -_ rethink systems, finance flows. .. ,, ,, ~ ., , flows. .. crosstalk. if i may sa so flows. .. crosstalk. if i may say so so _ flows. .. crosstalk. if i may say so so easy _ flows. .. crosstalk. if i may say so so easy to _ flows. .. crosstalk. if i may say so so easy to say - flows. .. crosstalk. if i may say so so easy to say and i say so so easy to say and difficult to achieve. apart from everything else you're trying to do with this adaptation programme, you are now telling me you are going to improve governance and root out

corruption and get rid of the rotten apples in these countries that you are engaging with so how on earth is going to do that? $5 with so how on earth is going to do that?— to do that? as i have learned from those — to do that? as i have learned from those living _ to do that? as i have learned from those living on - to do that? as i have learned from those living on the i to do that? as i have learned| from those living on the front lines in africa, there is no shortcut to the top of a palm tree. you have to put the hard work in. get the basics in place in terms of planning, in terms of where other risks but also in terms of the transformational financing flow. it's a whole of society effort. it's certainly not an international organisation which i happen to lead from rotterdam which will, let's say, solve the world's problem. we are contributing and facilitating as a solutions broker but it's a whole systems approach which needs to take place. is this going to be easy? no. is it going to be possible? yes, and so we should. possible? yes, and so we should-— possible? yes, and so we should. ., �* , ., ., should. you've been around international _ should. you've been around international institutions i international institutions including the world bank for long enough to know that multilateral institutions and the global political system we

have, frankly, appears not able to truly get to grips with the scale of this climate emergency.- scale of this climate emergency. scale of this climate emeruen .~ . , , emergency. and that is exactly wh , emergency. and that is exactly why. stephen. _ emergency. and that is exactly why, stephen, this _ emergency. and that is exactly why, stephen, this rich - emergency. and that is exactly why, stephen, this rich town . why, stephen, this rich town agenda which we are dancing around in our conversations... sorry, that's jargon. mia sorry, that's “argon. mia homey. — sorry, that's jargon. mia mottley, prime - sorry, that'sjargon. m —. mottley, prime minister of barbados, last year, said actually, the world bank, the bretton woods institutions were established 80 years ago. at the world ——at the time the world was vastly different than today, let alone a couple of years ago or after us so these institutions have to adjust. what needs to happen? well, these climate vulnerable nations have huge debts of the world bank has the stepien. and mia mottley has a point because what she did was very smart. —— has to step in. every new debt that barbados takes off in our debt deal, we will say once a natural disaster strikes, we suspend payment of our debt.

that is negotiated. secondly, actually, the world bank needs to change because who has access to concessional finance to the grounds of the system? not all countries. it needs to be more. lastly, the bank needs to grow its balance sheet by bringing in the private sector so and the interesting thing is it's notjust mia mottley. it's notjust it's notjust mia mottley. it's not just the global it's notjust mia mottley. it's notjust the global south. also the global north. let's buy president macron a unified behind this sort of re— shift in the direction of travel so the bridgetown initiative, they factor, is the new bretton woods moment ——de facto. you woods moment --de facto. you are saying _ woods moment --de facto. you are saying in — woods moment --de facto. you are saying in a _ woods moment --de facto. you are saying in a word _ woods moment ——de facto. you are saying in a word that you believe there are ways in which we humans can find ways to successfully avert climate catastrophe? i successfully avert climate catastrophe?— successfully avert climate catastrophe? i don't want to come across _ catastrophe? i don't want to come across as _ catastrophe? i don't want to come across as being - catastrophe? i don't want to come across as being naivel catastrophe? i don't want to i come across as being naive and overly optimistic. i of course see there is an abundance of

challenges and a scarcity of time but doesn't mean we have zero solutions and no time left. �* zero solutions and no time left-- the - zero solutions and no time left.- the point i zero solutions and no time left.- the point is | left. all right. the point is let's get — left. all right. the point is let's get on _ left. all right. the point is let's get on with _ left. all right. the point is let's get on with it. - left. all right. the point is| let's get on with it. patrick verkooijen. _ let's get on with it. patrick verkooijen, it's _ let's get on with it. patrick verkooijen, it's been i let's get on with it. patrick verkooijen, it's been a i verkooijen, it's been a pleasure. thank you for being on hardtalk.— pleasure. thank you for being on hardtalk. ., ,, , ., . hello there. flaming june continued on sunday with temperatures in eastern parts of england over 30 degrees. not only was it hot, it was also very humid. but that heat and humidity is going to get pushed away by that weather front which has brought some rain earlier on and following on behind that, we're going to find cooler and fresher air coming in from the atlantic. now, on saturday night, temperatures in highland scotland fell no lower than 20 degrees and the minimum temperature at crosby, in merseyside, was 19 celsius. it will be much more comfortable as we head

into early monday with temperatures perhaps down as low as single figures in scotland and northern ireland overnight. we start quite sunny on monday but quickly, the cloud will bubble up. we're going to find showers developing in scotland, northern ireland and northern england. chance of showers further south much reduced. temperatures could be as high as 22 or 23 in the south—east — of course, a lot lower than it was on sunday — and further north, typically 18—20. a cooler, fresher, westerly wind will be blowing and all our weather's going to be coming in from the atlantic. more weather fronts coming our way as we move into tuesday. that's going to bring more cloud and it's going to bring some rain, mainly for northern and western areas. as you head further south, there won't be much rain around at all but there will be a lot of cloud and those temperatures around 19—22 celsius. now, we're going to be in a warm sector as we head overnight and it's going to be

very warm, actually, i think, overnight into wednesday morning for south—eastern parts of the uk. the warm sector is the area between two weather fronts and so, we're going to start with a lot of cloud around on wednesday. the second weather front, the cold front here, is this band of rain. that's going to clear away from scotland and northern ireland. sunshine and showers and cooler airfollowing on behind. the rain band pushes into england and wales, dry until very late in the day across eastern england, and those temperatures could be up as high as 25—26 degrees. that's probably going to be as warm as it's going to get over the week ahead. that weather front then moves away and we're all into cooler and fresher air as we move into thursday once again, and that probably means some sunshine. the odd shower in the south—east of england but otherwise, most of the wet weather coming in from the atlantic will be in the north—west of scotland. for many, it's going to be a dry day on thursday and those temperatures near average, i suppose, for this time of the year — around 20—22 celsius or so. as we head towards the end of the week, this is the weather pattern — low to the north, high to the south — and this is the jet stream which is going to pile in more

weather fronts from off the atlantic, and that's going to bring more rain to northern and western areas of the uk. more cloud coming in to england and wales but the south—east still looks dry and here temperatures will be up to around 23 degrees or so but, again, we're going to be struggling at around 18 in the rain, in the central belt of scotland. now, it's worth looking at the rainfall accumulation over the next few days because whilst it's going to be unsettled and there is rain in the forecast, as you can see, where we've got hosepipe bans in the south—east, there really isn't going to be any rain to speak of at all. it will be much wetter for the north and west. and that story is likely to continue as we look further ahead for the outlook. again, a low pressure to the north, high pressure to the south, but that low pressure isn't really going to go anywhere — it's just going to spiral around in the same sort of spot. it'll be accompanied by some brisk winds at times and it'll keep wetter weather across more northern and some western parts of the uk but towards the south—east, it's not going to be very wet at all. there'll be some sunshine. temperatures near average. the heat, the humidity

is not set to return.

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