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and elton john and eltonjohn closes the grassley festival with his final uk show. hello, welcome to three hours of breaking stories and checking out the truth behind them. let's start in russia where vladimir putin has made as first public statement since the weekend's mutiny by the wagner mercenary group. the kremlin showed putin congratulating participants of an additional forum. putin congratulating participants of an additionalforum. it is unclear why the photos was recorded, but
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there was no mention at all of the rebellion. there's also footage of the defence minister at a military command post. he cold the defence minister evil and said he had to be sacked. nato�*s secretary general has given his first reaction to the weekend's remarkable events. to weekend's remarkable events. trr remind you all this is about internal russian matters. and therefore what nato is focused on is supporting ukraine. it demonstrates the fragility of the russian regime, but it is not for nato to intervene in those issues. that is a russian matter. what matters for nato is not to be intimidated or prevented from continuing to provide support for ukraine.
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in a video released by the kremlin — russia's prime minister — appeared to blame the west for last weekend's chaos — and called on the russian people, to unite behind president putin. translation: russia is going through an important time in its history. as the president noted, virtually the entire military, economic, information machine of the west is directed against us. in essence, now we are battling for the right to choose our own path, based on the national interests for the good of the people. the main thing in this situation is to ensure the sovereignty and independence of our country, and the safety and well—being of our citizens. for this, the consolidation of the whole of society is especially important; we need to act together as one team, and maintain the unity of all forces, rallying around the president. we need to take calculated unified decisions to effectively achieve goals set by the leader of the state.
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events over the weekend unfolded rapidly. on friday, yevgeny prigozhin released a video stepping up his feud with russia s military top generals. in it, he questioned president putin's justification for invading ukraine. in response russia s fsb security service opened a criminal case against him. by saturday, wagner fighters entered the southern russian city of rostov—on—don, taking control of the army headquarters. vladimir putin made a televised address. he accused mr prigozhin of treason and a stab in the back" and urged a consolidation of all forces. reports said wagner mercenary troops were heading north to moscow in a convoy. russian soldiers set up a defence positions around moscow, according to photographs seen by the media. presidentjoe biden spoke to the leaders of france, germany and the uk about the crisis. belarusian president alexander lukashenko brokered a deal
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with prigozhin aimed at de—escalating the situation. wagner fighters then left the military headquarters in rostov—on—don. it was agreed that mr prigozhin could leave russia for belarus. joining me live is the bbc�*s internatioanal editor, jeremy bowen, who is in kyiv and sarah rainsford — our eastern europe correspondent in warsaw. thank you for being with us. jeremy, give me the view of those extraordinary events from where you are. i think a certain amount of satisfaction from the ukrainian side. clearly, chaos, disruption, rebellion, mutiny, howeveryou want to describe it, is something they like to see in the ruling circles of their enemies. now, the issue is how that affects the wider war, and i
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think it would be wrong to see an immediate translation into ukrainian territorial gains on the ground. at the moment, while they have captured some villagers, they've just been making what celsius call tactical advances, they haven't had the strategic breakthroughs they will need to try to change the course of the war. that would been getting through those very heavily developed, hard russian defences which they haven't got close to yet. i'm breaking through. if it is going to happen, it is a long way off. i don't think the ukrainians are getting carried away, they are sticking to their plans. they are hoping that disruption in russia is good news for them, and may affect the morale of russian troops on the front line. , , . ., the morale of russian troops on the front line. , , _, . ~ front line. jeremy, i will come back to the battlefield, _ front line. jeremy, i will come back to the battlefield, but _ front line. jeremy, i will come back to the battlefield, but for _ front line. jeremy, i will come back to the battlefield, but for vladimirl to the battlefield, but for vladimir putin it is a blow to his authority.
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i hear you on the radio talking about in russia, there has been a loose agreement because whatever the harshness of a regime, it provides security. how much of the equation has been breached?— has been breached? well, what is clear is that _ has been breached? well, what is clear is that over _ has been breached? well, what is clear is that over the _ has been breached? well, what is clear is that over the years - has been breached? well, what is clear is that over the years putin i clear is that over the years putin has been in charge, he has presented himself and the official media, which is controlled by him has put over a stark and simple message that he is a strong man, a reliable man, a man to be admired, he will deliver for his people, who will protect the country. since the invasion of ukraine in february last year, they've gone from one crisis to another. it wasn't a quick victory he was hoping for, it is a series of
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military blunders. however, the russian military has not collapsed, it is still a formidable enemy for the ukrainians. after the events of the ukrainians. after the events of the weekend, there are cracks in the edifice. he looks weak in a way he didn't before, and that is something even your major selling point is you are strong and you are an authoritarian and you start looking weak, that is bad.— weak, that is bad. sarah, iwill come to you — weak, that is bad. sarah, iwill come to you in _ weak, that is bad. sarah, iwill come to you in a _ weak, that is bad. sarah, iwill come to you in a moment, - weak, that is bad. sarah, iwill come to you in a moment, but| weak, that is bad. sarah, iwill- come to you in a moment, but one more question, because what we don't know is potentially how vladimir putin will respond in the short—term, either internally or externally in ukraine. how worried are the ukrainian military of any threat coming from across the belarus border?— threat coming from across the belarus border? j . , , belarus border? they've addressed that and they _ belarus border? they've addressed that and they said _ belarus border? they've addressed that and they said if— belarus border? they've addressed that and they said if anyone - belarus border? they've addressed that and they said if anyone tried . that and they said if anyone tried to attack, say prigozhin comes to belarus, and it is unclear where he
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is, if he were daft enough, it would be a suicide mission. they feel they've got the border under control. i don't think that is top of that list of issues at the moment. they may be worried about that to show he's in charge and to reassert his credentials as a tough guy, reassert his credentials as a tough quy' y°u reassert his credentials as a tough guy, you never know, perhaps he may decide the time has come to up the tempo of, for example, a tax on this city —— attacks. let me bring in sarah. city -- attacks. let me bring in sarah. ~ �* , ,. ,., sarah. we've seen those pictures of vladimir putin _ sarah. we've seen those pictures of vladimir putin congratulating - vladimir putin congratulating participants at an industrial forum. no mention of anything that happens over the weekend. we don't know when it was filmed, but is almost like the president is saying, nothing happened here.—
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the president is saying, nothing ha ened here. ~ ~ , happened here. well, the key thing is we don't know _ happened here. well, the key thing is we don't know when _ happened here. well, the key thing is we don't know when it _ happened here. well, the key thing is we don't know when it was - happened here. well, the key thing l is we don't know when it was filmed, but it— is we don't know when it was filmed, but it is_ is we don't know when it was filmed, but it is interesting the kremlin has put — but it is interesting the kremlin has put it— but it is interesting the kremlin has put it out. the messages, it is business _ has put it out. the messages, it is business as— has put it out. the messages, it is business as usual. there is an operation _ business as usual. there is an operation under way to try to restore — operation under way to try to restore putin's reputation, to rally the country— restore putin's reputation, to rally the country and leadership behind the country and leadership behind the president and to try to make up for what _ the president and to try to make up for what was quite clearly lost at the weekend, however much the crumlin— the weekend, however much the crumlin won't want to admit it publicly, — crumlin won't want to admit it publicly, which is the idea —— kremlin _ publicly, which is the idea —— kremlin. of vladimir putin of the strong _ kremlin. of vladimir putin of the strong man united a country behind him and _ strong man united a country behind him and double against ukraine. he does look— him and double against ukraine. he does look dented, because of some of the stuff, _ does look dented, because of some of the stuff, notjust the idea there was a _ the stuff, notjust the idea there was a mutiny, a former ally had turned — was a mutiny, a former ally had turned against him, but the fact to undo _ turned against him, but the fact to undo it— turned against him, but the fact to undo it and — turned against him, but the fact to undo it and to broker a deal, to
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stop— undo it and to broker a deal, to stop the — undo it and to broker a deal, to stop the danger, that mutiny, present— stop the danger, that mutiny, present mutiny seem to climb down and cavemen. the kremlin said even the criminai— and cavemen. the kremlin said even the criminal charges against yevgeny prigozhin _ the criminal charges against yevgeny prigozhin would be dropped. there is a lot of— prigozhin would be dropped. there is a lot of rowing back going on. we have _ a lot of rowing back going on. we have seen— a lot of rowing back going on. we have seen from the prosecutor office in russia _ have seen from the prosecutor office in russia those criminal charges do still stand — in russia those criminal charges do still stand. there is an effort to present— still stand. there is an effort to present that the defence minister hasn't _ present that the defence minister hasn't been sucked. and president putin— hasn't been sucked. and president putin is— hasn't been sucked. and president putin is still working —— sacked. it is about— putin is still working —— sacked. it is about trying to paper over the cracks — is about trying to paper over the cracks. people have seen those cracks, — cracks. people have seen those cracks, and _ cracks. people have seen those cracks, and that is critically important. it cracks, and that is critically important-— cracks, and that is critically imortant. , ., ., important. it boils down to whether this is the start _ important. it boils down to whether this is the start of _ important. it boils down to whether this is the start of something - important. it boils down to whether this is the start of something or - this is the start of something or the end of something. in terms of those other people you been watching over the course of the last day or so, what about prigozhin? do we know
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where he is? we had the video of russia's defence minister. your analysis of all of that?— analysis of all of that? yevgeny prigozhin. _ analysis of all of that? yevgeny prigozhin. we _ analysis of all of that? yevgeny prigozhin, we don't _ analysis of all of that? yevgeny prigozhin, we don't know- analysis of all of that? yevgeny| prigozhin, we don't know where analysis of all of that? yevgeny . prigozhin, we don't know where he is. prigozhin, we don't know where he is we _ prigozhin, we don't know where he is we had — prigozhin, we don't know where he is. we had word from the kremlin he was going _ is. we had word from the kremlin he was going to — is. we had word from the kremlin he was going to head to belarus. we never_ was going to head to belarus. we never had — was going to head to belarus. we never had confirmation from yevgeny prigozhin _ never had confirmation from yevgeny prigozhin himself. he disappeared, he vanished. this is a man who has been _ he vanished. this is a man who has been so _ he vanished. this is a man who has been so vocal — he vanished. this is a man who has been so vocal in recent days when he's been — been so vocal in recent days when he's been ranting and raving against the way— he's been ranting and raving against the way the — he's been ranting and raving against the way the war is being conducted. suddenly— the way the war is being conducted. suddenly it — the way the war is being conducted. suddenly it is radio silence from him, _ suddenly it is radio silence from him, presumably because of the terms of the _ him, presumably because of the terms of the deal— him, presumably because of the terms of the deal which allowed him to survive — of the deal which allowed him to survive it~ — of the deal which allowed him to survive it. we don't know where he is, there's— survive it. we don't know where he is, there's a— survive it. we don't know where he is, there's a rumour he's in belarus. _ is, there's a rumour he's in belarus, but it isjust a rumour. we don't _ belarus, but it isjust a rumour. we don't know— belarus, but it isjust a rumour. we don't know what he does next, what to the _ don't know what he does next, what to the wagner group, that group of mercenaries he's built up over the years _ mercenaries he's built up over the years it _ mercenaries he's built up over the years it has — mercenaries he's built up over the years. it has been so vitally useful to the _
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years. it has been so vitally useful to the kremlin, to putin and russia in ukraine — to the kremlin, to putin and russia in ukraine and other places. apparently, wagner is reopening its officers. _ apparently, wagner is reopening its officers, continuing to recruit, but it looks _ officers, continuing to recruit, but it looks like — officers, continuing to recruit, but it looks like it will be a different beast _ it looks like it will be a different beast without him at the top, absorbed into the defence ministry, brought— absorbed into the defence ministry, brought under control. there is lots going _ brought under control. there is lots going on— brought under control. there is lots going on right now, and it is right across— going on right now, and it is right across the — going on right now, and it is right across the political border. the defence — across the political border. the defence minister was shown a video, of him _ defence minister was shown a video, of him visiting the command centre for russia's — of him visiting the command centre for russia's war against ukraine. the message was clear, the defence minister— the message was clear, the defence minister sergei shoigu is still putin's— minister sergei shoigu is still putin's man, putin hasn't paved end. he is— putin's man, putin hasn't paved end. he is still— putin's man, putin hasn't paved end. he is still the — putin's man, putin hasn't paved end. he is still the president the country— he is still the president the country should rally about. we headed — country should rally about. we headed directly from the prime ministen — headed directly from the prime minister. he called in all the top ministers — minister. he called in all the top ministers and definite ministers and
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said to _ ministers and definite ministers and said to them, rally round your president. _ said to them, rally round your president, this is the time, it is a tough _ president, this is the time, it is a tough time — president, this is the time, it is a tough time and we need to be behind him. tough time and we need to be behind him a— tough time and we need to be behind him avery— tough time and we need to be behind him. a very soviet sounding message. it is him. a very soviet sounding message. it is clear— him. a very soviet sounding message. it is clear this — him. a very soviet sounding message. it is clear this time is critical and — it is clear this time is critical and therefore putin needs to look strong _ and therefore putin needs to look strong again. and therefore putin needs to look strong again-— and therefore putin needs to look stron: aaain. ., ~ , . strong again. thank you very much, and thank you _ strong again. thank you very much, and thank you to _ strong again. thank you very much, and thank you to jeremy _ strong again. thank you very much, and thank you to jeremy bowen. - joining us live now — is dr anna matveeva, senior research fellow in the russia institute at king's college london. thank you for being with us. was this weekend a defining moment for vladimir putin? such a tight grip for so long on the country. it is not et for so long on the country. it is not yet a _ for so long on the country. it is not yet a defining _ for so long on the country. it 3 not yet a defining moment, but it is a start of a twilight era. it is the beginning of a transition of political power, and the question is whether this transition will be
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peaceful, gradual, orwhether whether this transition will be peaceful, gradual, or whether that will be violent, turbulent and unprecedented, with quite a lot of unpredictable team. it might lead nowhere, but we have seen them. one option might be violence. in nowhere, but we have seen them. one option might be violence.— option might be violence. in the short-term. _ option might be violence. in the short-term, how _ option might be violence. in the short-term, how do _ option might be violence. in the short-term, how do think- option might be violence. in the short-term, how do think putin | option might be violence. in the i short-term, how do think putin is short—term, how do think putin is likely to respond? i short-term, how do think putin is likely to respond?— likely to respond? i don't think he's as damaged _ likely to respond? i don't think he's as damaged as _ likely to respond? i don't think he's as damaged as your- likely to respond? i don't think i he's as damaged as your previous person explain. he is not looking very good by allowing this to happen and happen in the open, but he's also being appreciated by the russian public for their opinion, without too much bloodshed and involving society. russian society
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cherishes stability and wants to avoid chaos. what is happening right now is frustrating. whether yevgeny prigozhin would appear, allow to return to africa where he has been successful in fostering military outcomes. whether he would be able to revamp wagner maybe under a different brand. the problem would be outsourced elsewhere, to africa. he will continue his operation, but he will be out of russia domestic politics. but keep up pressure, the option of prosecution is still very much on the table. that is going on now. in terms of key allies like china, do you anticipate anything happening behind—the—scenes which
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has been different to over the last few months? chinese leadership do not want chaos in russia, that is the last thing they want to be looking into. they certainly, they properly saw things developing because there have been a lot of signals going on. from kind of chinese leadership, it is a bit of a. chinese leadership, it is a bit of a, putin being who he is, he hasn't taken measures to allow this to develop. at the same time, at its core, they also see that putin managed to overcome the situation without flexibility and without too much damage. they appreciate that side of him being kind of a skilful
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minute later. we have to leave it there. thank you for your time. around the world and across the uk, you are watching bbc news. let's stay in the uk. an inquest has heard nicola bulley died as a result of drowning ? and was alive when she fell into a river. the 45—year—old went missing from st michael's on wyre in lancashire injanuary, prompting a major search. it took more than three weeks for her body to be found. an inquest has heard nicola bulley died as a result a study has found people in the uk are less likely to survive treatable conditions — such as breast cancer and stroke — than those in other rich nations. the review — by the king's fund think tank — says the problem may be directly linked to the performance of the nhs. police in northern ireland can now charge people with non—fatal strangulation. strangulation is the second most common method of female murder in the uk — after attacks with a knife or sharp instrument.
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in the last decade, seven people have been strangled to death. those are some of the headlines make in the news in the uk. you are live with bbc news. it was the uk's most notorious racist murder — and it prompted a storm of protest — about policing up and down the country. now, a new suspect in the killing of stephen lawrence, has been identified in a bbc investigation. he is matthew white, who died two years ago. ?he has never been publicly named before — and the bbc has found, that the metropolitan police seriously mishandled key evidence related to him. stephen was 18 when he was murdered, in a racist attack, by a gang of young white men in south london in 1993. two of the original five prime suspects were jailed for the murder in 2012. the other three have not been convicted of the crime. our correspondent
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daniel de simone reports. stephen lawrence, the victim of the most notorious racist murder in british history. 30 years on, we reveal disastrous police failures and identify a key suspect for the first time. stephen was killed by a gang of young white men in eltham, south london, in 1993. the met police's handling of the case led to the force being branded institutionally racist. they had no intention of finding the people who killed my son. i've got no confidence in these people to do anything when it comes on to this case. there were five prime suspects. two were finally convicted a decade ago. but stephen's friend, duwayne brooks, who survived the attack, said there were six attackers. our investigation today identifies a new suspect for the first time.
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this man, matthew white, and reveals serious failings by the met. white's stepfather contacted the met after the murder, but the wrong name for him was put into a database and the lead was not pursued. a new investigator traced the right man 20 years later. i knocked on his door and said, "i'm coming to talk to you about stephen lawrence murder", to which he said, "you're rushing thisjob, aren't you, officer?" he actually said that to me. the stepfather said white admitted to being present at the attack. it wasn'tjust him. another witness had given a statement to the met years before, in 2000, saying white told him he was part of the attack. and i've got surveillance photos from 1993, that show white looked like the unidentified lead attacker described by stephen's friend and eyewitnesses. white died in this bedsit in 2021,
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a year after the met stopped investigating stephen's murder. scotland yard told us matthew white was arrested and interviewed in 2000 and in 2013, and that prosecutors twice said there wasn't enough evidence to charge. the evidence relating to matthew white implicates the three prime suspects, who remain free. deputy assistant commissioner matt ward told us... after so many police failings, will there ever be fulljustice for stephen lawrence? daniel joins us now.
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an incredible investigation. tell others how you pieced it altogether. i started looking into it because the met stopped investigating the murder three years ago, so i was trying to see if there was anything i could do and find out. this guy matthew white, who we are naming as a suspect, had always been in the case. the case had been so well—known, a public inquiry in the 90s, books and films. this guy was an anonymized witness called witness k. an anonymized witness called witness k, and he was all over the case. he was at home of two other suspects, and he was the source of a lot of information other people had. i was looking at him and realised he was a suspect, and the police eventually treated him as a suspect some years after 1983, seven years after. i wanted to look at him, try and find
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out the evidence about him being a suspect and then look at the police's performance and response to him. �* ., ., him. and, daniel, on that point, we know original _ him. and, daniel, on that point, we know original errors _ him. and, daniel, on that point, we know original errors in _ him. and, daniel, on that point, we know original errors in the - him. and, daniel, on that point, we know original errors in the first - know original errors in the first investigation, but compounded by more errors as information was passed to the police. by, more errors as information was passed to the police. a stepfather of matthew _ passed to the police. a stepfather of matthew white _ passed to the police. a stepfather of matthew white tried _ passed to the police. a stepfather of matthew white tried to - passed to the police. a stepfather. of matthew white tried to approach the met in 1993, he approached a friend who was an officer. this information made its way to the team, but it was dealt in a disastrous way. the wrong information was entered into the database, the wrong name was entered. it wasn't pursued, he wasn't spoken to for 20 years. when he was, he said my stepson admitted being that when stephen lawrence was murdered. matthew white said stephen
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deserved what he had was that was a huge mess by the met, and they've accepted it as a regrettable error. a final question, because cressida dick said it was inactive, what happens to this? it dick said it was inactive, what happens to this?— dick said it was inactive, what happens to this? it is an inactive case, it happens to this? it is an inactive case. it is _ happens to this? it is an inactive case. it is in _ happens to this? it is an inactive case, it is in close, _ happens to this? it is an inactive case, it is in close, they - happens to this? it is an inactive case, it is in close, they are - happens to this? it is an inactive l case, it is in close, they are doing a forensic review, which is a routine. there is no team actively working on the case, no teams of detectives pursuing leads. they have said if there is new information, they would look at it and reconsider opening eight. certainly stephen's family say they do want to see other people not to justice. family say they do want to see other people not tojustice. we know family say they do want to see other people not to justice. we know there were others that when he was killed, and his family hope to see those people eventually put on trial. and — for viewers in the uk — you can watch daniel's full report
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on bbc one at 8.30 tonight, or on the bbc iplayer now. you can also read the full investigation online at bbc.co.uk/news. plenty more detail. it is fascinating detail. i was reading the online piece earlier, with a lot of reaction to what this investigation has uncovered. we will have more of the headlines in a moment or two. don't go away. hello, after all the heat and humidity of the weekend, a fresher story to take us through the week ahead. many areas saw heavy thunderstorms overnight on sunday, but to the south many spots still staying dry, the cracked ground in hampshire. in terms of rain for southern counties,
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perhaps later this week there is something to come. here we are on monday with high pressure to the south, low pressure pulling to the north—east, if was to come through the remainder of the day across the northern half. most of them fading out once the sun sets. central and eastern areas staying clear overnight. towards the west more cloud, the breeze lifting a little, a cooler night than last night. temperatures didn't get out of the mid—teens last night, they will get lower tonight. through tuesday, low—pressure approaches from the atlantic, feeding high cloud, turning sunshine hazy, rain in northern england and scotland into the afternoon. bright skies in the south, highs of 21, 22, 16 or 17 for scotland. overnight and into wednesday, we pull in some humidity from the south. quite a muggy start on wednesday, a warmer night on tuesday night.
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the wednesday daytime, a lot of cloud, some heavier and more persistent rain in scotland, northern england, and showers potentially in eastern england that could be heavy at times. temperatures have come back up into the mid 20s, 25 celsius, 17, 18 in scotland and ireland. it is this trailing weather front on thursday which is the bigger question for the forecast. will it stick around to the south—east, bringing rain, orwill it go away faster? the current thinking is it brings a decent amount of rain to the south—east on thursday, ten or 15 millimetres. but that is changing, so we will get that closer to the time for you. we move back into the fresher feeling at the end of the week.
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karen matt this is bbc news, the headlines: vladimir putin appears on russian television after that we mutiny. an expertjoins us to discuss the latest. new evidence of china's spy balloon programme including flights
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