racism, sexism, classism and elitism are widespread within the sport according to a damning new report. it isa it is a game steeped in tradition and history, and much of that is wonderful, as the archivists and recordist will say, but some of the worst traditions and most pernicious attitudes from history pervade cricket. it has always been old school, but this is pretty shocking, old school attitudes of the very worst sort. let's hear from you, from all levels of the sport. cricket should be for everyone, it is manifestly not. let's hear if you feel alienated, let's hear if you feel alienated, let's hear if you feel excluded or uninterested. we want to hear from fans, players, school level, county level, mums and dads, get in touch. what is wrong with cricket?

the england and wales cricket board has apologised and admits the sport needs a reset after a report found racism, sexism and elitism are widespread. the independent commission for equity in cricket has spent the last two years, getting evidence from more than 4,000 people. bosses from tesco, sainsbury�*s, asda and morrisons will be questioned by mps about high prices in supermarkets. the british retail consortium says food price rises eased slightly again this month.restrictions on price promotions for unhealthy foods are going to be introduced in wales. the laws — which are expected to come into force in 2025 — would also see rules on where high sugar, salt and fat foods are placed in shops. the aim is to tackle obesity and diabetes. a charity says the cost of school uniforms is still a big issue, despite rules aimed at keeping prices down. the children's society found parents spent on average £422 a year on secondary and £287

on primary uniforms. the government says it wants to make sure costs are reasonable. it's going to be fascinating, this. holding a mirror up to cricket is the report. what do you see from your perspective? some of the findings, structural and institutional racism, women treated are subordinate to men, elitism, discrimination is still very much their, the old school tie. black cricket has been failed. many who experience dissemination don't report it, because they distrust authorities. cindy butts is the chair and says the game must face up to the fact that it is not banter or

just a few bad apples, she says some of the stories that she heard are absolutely horrific. she says it demonstrates the culture in cricket is rotten. these are such strong words as well. the chair of the ecb, richard thomson, has apologised. you can see his full apology on the website. it's interesting. he says it's time for a reset. how do we do that? you have covered this for the bbc asian network, it is bad, isn't it? ., , , bbc asian network, it is bad, isn't it? ., y , , it? good morning, yes. it is something _ it? good morning, yes. it is something we _ it? good morning, yes. it is something we have - it? good morning, yes. it is something we have talked l it? good morning, yes. it is - something we have talked about a lot on my programme, in particular. because of so many people talking to me over the years about their experiences. the situations they face have made them fall out of love with the game, sadly. it's been troubling to hear some of the experiences of whistle—blowers. we've heard from high—profile people like azeem rafiq and other people at

the grassroots level, and i have heard the shocking testimony over the years. if they needed to be any more confirmation, to understand what is happening in cricket, not just at the top, but at the grassroots. iii just at the top, but at the grassroots.— just at the top, but at the crassroots. . , , ., grassroots. if there are deep-seated roblems, grassroots. if there are deep-seated problems. they _ grassroots. if there are deep-seated problems, they will _ grassroots. if there are deep-seated problems, they will be _ grassroots. if there are deep-seated problems, they will be difficult - grassroots. if there are deep-seated problems, they will be difficult to . problems, they will be difficult to shift, difficult to change. you problems, they will be difficult to shift, difficult to change.- shift, difficult to change. you are sot on. shift, difficult to change. you are spot on. there _ shift, difficult to change. you are spot on. there has _ shift, difficult to change. you are spot on. there has been - shift, difficult to change. you are spot on. there has been a - shift, difficult to change. you are spot on. there has been a lot - shift, difficult to change. you are spot on. there has been a lot of| spot on. there has been a lot of distrust between ethnic minority communities and the cricket establishment. 0ne communities and the cricket establishment. one of the examples is the cricket leak i have spoken about over the years, a lot of people that set them up came from india and pakistan, bangladesh, south asian countries, their motherland. it showed them the love of cricket and why they fell in love with the game. when they came to the uk, they try to get involved in the cricket community in the uk and they found there was not space for them. i asked them why, they would give

examples of racism, discrimination, they felt like outcasts. they set up their own cricket league so they could find a safe space for themselves, so they could fall back in love with the game, essentially. maybe we had a lost generation of cricketers because of that, many people have thought, actually, this is not the career for me, cricket is not a career where i can see a future. therefore, you see a lot of people that fell out of love with the game and maybe are lost to the game. i'm talking from the coaching perspective or even an administration perspective. 28% of recreational cricket is played by south asians, but 2.8% are reflected at the top two levels in executive roles, so there is grisly disconnect there. ~ . . roles, so there is grisly disconnect there. . roles, so there is grisly disconnect there. ~ . , m roles, so there is grisly disconnect there. . m ., ., there. what about classism? we know some of the — there. what about classism? we know some of the people _ there. what about classism? we know some of the people traditionally - there. what about classism? we know some of the people traditionally who l some of the people traditionally who run the game stuffed shirts, the blazers, all of that lot, i am not an officially if i thought it was

rapidly changing, but one of the recommendations, it says it is deep—seated, structural and cultural, and recommendation 18, deep—seated, structural and cultural, and recommendation i8, i spent some time reading these this morning, it needs to go to the very root of things to change. this one, we recommend to the mcc that the annual fixtures between eton and harrow, and oxford and cambridge, are no longer played at lord's. they should be replaced by national finals day is for state school under 15 competitions for boys and girls. no disrespect to those august institutions, that says it all? absolutely, it is a fixture that has been embedded in elitism, for a number of years. so many people have dreamt of playing at lord's, number of years. so many people have dreamt of playing at lords, and they feel as if it would be a dream out of their reach. if you come from a certain background, if you go to a certain type of institution, those pathways are a lot more accessible.

i remember, what you just mentioned, it brought to mind an experience of mine, and friends of mine, school cricket, years ago, we were sent to county trials and eventually we wanted to go to a county team. four of us from state schools were put at the lower batting order options, seven, eight, nine, ten and ii. the boys from private school backgrounds were given the other positions. there was no rhyme or reason why that would have happened. that was 30 years ago. why is that still the case in some communities now? talking to a lot of people, they feel that is it for them, they can't break through a certain level when it comes to class, so they are going to struggle to find a place for them within cricket. lets to struggle to find a place for them within cricket.— within cricket. lets hear from --eole. within cricket. lets hear from peeple- ecb _ within cricket. lets hear from people. ecb chair _ within cricket. lets hear from people. ecb chair richard - within cricket. lets hear from - people. ecb chair richard thompson pulled back a response, i was mentioning it, he says he is truly sorry, determined to learn and stamp

out discrimination, make it a welcoming sport. make cricket the most inclusive sport in england and wales. it is worth mentioning, ankur, there was a damning report that came out on cricket scotland, itemising countless examples of racism. there is something going on, something about the game, something in the game as well. stay there. let's speak to... we have other folks coming along. casey, in threlkeld. —— katie. you play cricket for a local club, what do you think? i cricket for a local club, what do you think?— you think? i absolutely love cricket. people _ you think? i absolutely love cricket. people who - you think? i absolutely love cricket. people who love . you think? i absolutely love - cricket. people who love cricket absolutely _ cricket. people who love cricket absolutely adore _ cricket. people who love cricket absolutely adore it. _ cricket. people who love cricket absolutely adore it. it _ cricket. people who love cricket absolutely adore it. it is - cricket. people who love cricket absolutely adore it. it is in - cricket. people who love cricketj absolutely adore it. it is in their veins. it courses through their blood. so what is going wrong?

i'v e i've been playing cricket for many years now. i probably started playing when i was about seven or eight years old. 0bviously i've been playing for a very long time now. when i was younger, it was under 11 and under ia hardball cricket were used to play. there were a couple of iips used to play. there were a couple of jips from other kids, saying, go and play with barbie, you don't belong on the cricket pitch. they were reprimanded by the coaches and made to apologise, which i always thought was really good, that it was brought down on so hard. carry on? you carry on. i played county women's _ you carry on. i played county women's cricket, _ you carry on. i played county women's cricket, up - you carry on. i played county women's cricket, up until- you carry on. i played county women's cricket, up until i i you carry on. i played county l women's cricket, up until i was about 18. and then life got in the way and then we had covid, and the local cricket club started a women's

team, and put me into coach, and now i coach a women's team. does team, and put me into coach, and now i coach a women's team.— i coach a women's team. does that surrise i coach a women's team. does that surprise you. _ i coach a women's team. does that surprise you, what _ i coach a women's team. does that surprise you, what we _ i coach a women's team. does that surprise you, what we are - i coach a women's team. does that surprise you, what we are hearingl i coach a women's team. does that. surprise you, what we are hearing in this comprehensive report? it is long, and it is damning. does it come as a surprise? unfortunately, not. i come as a surprise? unfortunately, not- i think — come as a surprise? unfortunately, not- i think it— come as a surprise? unfortunately, not. | think it is— come as a surprise? unfortunately, not. i think it is going _ come as a surprise? unfortunately, not. i think it is going to _ come as a surprise? unfortunately, not. i think it is going to be - not. i think it is going to be happening everywhere you go, whether you like it or not. it needs to change, definitely needs to change, but i do think that there are steps being taken to push it in the right direction, with the women and girls league that we are currently in, it is obviously bringing in a bit of women's equality into it, and giving women's equality into it, and giving women a safe place to come and actually be able to play cricket. let me get that picked up by sherry green, director of programmes for a charity to get young people of african and caribbean heritage into cricket. —— chevy green. do you

think things are on the turn, are things changing? this is clearly a sport that is not on the same journey as other sports.- sport that is not on the same journey as other sports. yes, there is definitely — journey as other sports. yes, there is definitely time _ journey as other sports. yes, there is definitely time for _ journey as other sports. yes, there is definitely time for change. - journey as other sports. yes, there is definitely time for change. part | is definitely time for change. part of the _ is definitely time for change. part of the charity i work for, ace, it's trying _ of the charity i work for, ace, it's trying to— of the charity i work for, ace, it's trying to do— of the charity i work for, ace, it's trying to do that in african and caribhean— trying to do that in african and caribbean communities across the uk. the report— caribbean communities across the uk. the report is— caribbean communities across the uk. the report is damning, there are some _ the report is damning, there are some shocking things that are going to come _ some shocking things that are going to come out of it. and hopefully we can use _ to come out of it. and hopefully we can use this— to come out of it. and hopefully we can use this as an opportunity to help— can use this as an opportunity to help develop and grow the game across_ help develop and grow the game across the country, so more people can feel_ across the country, so more people can feel welcomed. we just have to embrace _ can feel welcomed. we just have to embrace some of the recommendations and hopefully people don't feel attacked or take a defensive approach, and use it as an opportunity to create more opportunities to play the game. is opportunities to play the game. is that opportunities to play the game. that the opportunities to play the game. is that the danger, that people go on the defensive or in denial? it can be, for the defensive or in denial? it can be. for sure- _ the defensive or in denial? it can be, for sure. we _ the defensive or in denial? it can be, for sure. we have _ the defensive or in denial? it can be, for sure. we have seen - the defensive or in denial? it can be, for sure. we have seen it. be, for sure. we have seen it happening _ be, for sure. we have seen it happening time and time again. but

now, _ happening time and time again. but now, hopefully, with this extensive report, _ now, hopefully, with this extensive report, people will see it in black and white — report, people will see it in black and white and just accept it, and hopefully— and white and just accept it, and hopefully try to create a pathway of inclusion _ hopefully try to create a pathway of inclusion for everyone to file cricket — inclusion for everyone to file cricket is _ inclusion for everyone to file cricket is a game for them. clearly at the _ cricket is a game for them. clearly at the moment the report does not show— at the moment the report does not show that — at the moment the report does not show that. hopefully the ecb have been quite brave to put themselves out there _ been quite brave to put themselves out there and get the report commissioned, and hopefully the ecb will support initiatives ourselves at ace _ will support initiatives ourselves at ace and other charities to make it more _ at ace and other charities to make it more accessible.— at ace and other charities to make it more accessible. brian is coming u - , it more accessible. brian is coming u, and a it more accessible. brian is coming up. and a a _ it more accessible. brian is coming up, and a .a ankur _ it more accessible. brian is coming up, and a .a ankur as _ it more accessible. brian is coming up, and a .a ankur as well, - it more accessible. brian is coming up, and a .a ankur as well, the - it more accessible. brian is coming| up, and a .a ankur as well, the bbc is not up, and a .aankuras well, the bbc is not immune up, and a .a ankur as well, the bbc is not immune from this, i'm thinking of non—recent examples, but i have to eu colleagues, i've been here a while, we are probably talking 20 years ago, two colleagues who felt that they did not fit in. things have really changed now, that they did not fit into the tms team, because they went to the wrong school, they had the wrong school

tie, wrong side of the tracks. that is reflective of what was going on in cricket. the worst racism i ever heard coming out of anyone's mouth, and i was very young, and i still think about it a lot, was from a former test cricketer, i shared a dressing room, in the early 90s, i'd never heard anything like it. but ankur, you would have hoped that, given modern attitudes and given changing attitudes, this was gone, but it's not?— changing attitudes, this was gone, but it's not? no, and the examples ou have but it's not? no, and the examples you have just _ but it's not? no, and the examples you havejust given, _ but it's not? no, and the examples you havejust given, i _ but it's not? no, and the examples you havejust given, i think- but it's not? no, and the examples you have just given, i think we - but it's not? no, and the examples you have just given, i think we talk| you have just given, i think we talk about lip service as well. for so many years, people have said we must see change, or we must see a changing of the landscape, we must be a lot more inclusive, we must be a lot more accommodating, but has

not happened? if we look across the media landscape, art media areas as diverse as they should be? we talk about it at boardroom level. are the people in charge who run the sport, are they from diverse backgrounds? that comes into class as well. if cricket was a safe space for people and ethnic minorities in particular, the wonderful programme that chevy is part of, the ace programme, it would not exist because it would be a more inclusive game. there was a south asian action plan, a strategy plan devised by the ecb about four years ago, maybe even longer, 2017, when they wanted to implement a lot of changes. how many of those changes have been implemented successfully? it would be good to go back and analyse that. i think a lot of people feel as though there have been plays in process for a while,

but they've not really amounted to a lot. when we saw the testimony from summary like —— somebody like somebody going to a cricket match and the people were urinating on them, team—mates, things like that, you feel that cricket has a long way to go. maybe a generation to frankly, a lot of this has been existed for too many decades, and change cannot happen overnight. but change cannot happen overnight. but change has to be transparent, change has to be progressive.— has to be progressive. shahid ali “oins us. has to be progressive. shahid ali joins us- we _ has to be progressive. shahid ali joins us. we have _ has to be progressive. shahid ali joins us. we have brian - has to be progressive. shahid ali joins us. we have brian and - has to be progressive. shahid alil joins us. we have brian and andy. andy, do you recognise this? i know you are... well, what are you? i am secretary of — you are... well, what are you? i am secretary of a _ you are... well, what are you? i am secretary of a club _ you are... well, what are you? i am secretary of a club in _ you are... well, what are you? i am secretary of a club in mid _ you are... well, what are you? i am secretary of a club in mid essex, and i've — secretary of a club in mid essex, and i've played for 40 years. i honestly— and i've played for 40 years. i honestly don't recognise the findings _ honestly don't recognise the findings at all. i don't doubt them for a _ findings at all. i don't doubt them for a second, but the club i have

been _ for a second, but the club i have been involved in running for 30 years. — been involved in running for 30 years. we — been involved in running for 30 years, we have players, we are predominantly from a working—class background, we have players from public— background, we have players from public schools, all sorts of backgrounds, everybody mixes and get on really _ backgrounds, everybody mixes and get on really well. the first team play a really _ on really well. the first team play a really high standard of cricket and they— a really high standard of cricket and they support the games on a sunday— and they support the games on a sunday morning, and support the first games. it is such a good atmosphere. in terms of inclusivity, we have _ atmosphere. in terms of inclusivity, we have players and members from all backgrounds, all ethnicities. if people — backgrounds, all ethnicities. if people have financial issues, they can speak— people have financial issues, they can speak to us and we can have something — can speak to us and we can have something in place so they don't have _ something in place so they don't have to — something in place so they don't have to pay their match fees or things— have to pay their match fees or things like that. we try and make it as open— things like that. we try and make it as open to — things like that. we try and make it as open to everyone as possible. that— as open to everyone as possible. that sounds great. are you surprised by some of the stuff we are hearing this morning? i’m by some of the stuff we are hearing this morning?— this morning? i'm really surprised, es. onl

this morning? i'm really surprised, yes- only from _ this morning? i'm really surprised, yes. only from the _ this morning? i'm really surprised, yes. only from the point _ this morning? i'm really surprised, yes. only from the point of- this morning? i'm really surprised, yes. only from the point of view. yes. only from the point of view that it's — yes. only from the point of view that it's not something i've experienced, and i've been involved in club _ experienced, and i've been involved in club cricket for a very long time — in club cricket for a very long time. �* . . in club cricket for a very long time. �* , ., ., , , in club cricket for a very long time. a ., ., , , time. as all of these things come out, it is time. as all of these things come out. it is the _ time. as all of these things come out, it is the decent _ time. as all of these things come out, it is the decent people - time. as all of these things come out, it is the decent people doing the right thing, with the right attitudes and modern attitudes, progressive attitudes, who understand the changing world, those people don't get mentioned. that’s people don't get mentioned. that's riuht. people don't get mentioned. that's right. brian. _ people don't get mentioned. that's right. brian, hi. _ people don't get mentioned. that's right. brian, hi. are _ people don't get mentioned. that's right. brian, hi. are you _ people don't get mentioned. that's right. brian, hi. are you with - people don't get mentioned. that's right. brian, hi. are you with andy, do ou right. brian, hi. are you with andy, do you recognise _ right. brian, hi. are you with andy, do you recognise it? _ right. brian, hi. are you with andy, do you recognise it? yeah, - right. brian, hi. are you with andy, do you recognise it? yeah, i- right. brian, hi. are you with andy, do you recognise it? yeah, i do - do you recognise it? yeah, i do recognise _ do you recognise it? yeah, i do recognise what _ do you recognise it? yeah, i do recognise what he _ do you recognise it? yeah, i do recognise what he is _ do you recognise it? yeah, i do recognise what he is saying. i do you recognise it? yeah, i do i recognise what he is saying. from do you recognise it? yeah, i do - recognise what he is saying. from my point _ recognise what he is saying. from my point of— recognise what he is saying. from my point of view. — recognise what he is saying. from my point of view. i— recognise what he is saying. from my point of view, i see _ recognise what he is saying. from my point of view, i see a _ recognise what he is saying. from my point of view, i see a lot _ recognise what he is saying. from my point of view, i see a lot of— recognise what he is saying. from my point of view, i see a lot of good - point of view, i see a lot of good things— point of view, i see a lot of good things going _ point of view, i see a lot of good things going on _ point of view, i see a lot of good things going on in _ point of view, i see a lot of good things going on in the _ point of view, i see a lot of good things going on in the game, - point of view, i see a lot of good things going on in the game, i. point of view, i see a lot of good . things going on in the game, i don't want to— things going on in the game, i don't want to bash — things going on in the game, i don't want to bash the _ things going on in the game, i don't want to bash the game, _ things going on in the game, i don't want to bash the game, but - things going on in the game, i don't want to bash the game, but there . things going on in the game, i don't want to bash the game, but there is certainly— want to bash the game, but there is certainly elite — want to bash the game, but there is certainly elite as _ want to bash the game, but there is certainly elite as and _ want to bash the game, but there is certainly elite as and when - want to bash the game, but there is certainly elite as and when it - want to bash the game, but there is certainly elite as and when it comesj certainly elite as and when it comes to the _ certainly elite as and when it comes to the top— certainly elite as and when it comes to the top end — certainly elite as and when it comes to the top end of— certainly elite as and when it comes to the top end of the _ certainly elite as and when it comes to the top end of the junior- certainly elite as and when it comes to the top end of the junior game,.| to the top end of the junior game,. -- elitism — to the top end of the junior game,. -- elitism i— to the top end of the junior game,. —— elitism. i think— to the top end of the junior game,. —— elitism. i think there _ to the top end of the junior game,. —— elitism. i think there is- to the top end of the junior game,. —— elitism. i think there is a - to the top end of the junior game,. —— elitism. i think there is a lot - —— elitism. i think there is a lot of barriers _ —— elitism. i think there is a lot of barriers still. _ —— elitism. i think there is a lot of barriers still. for _ —— elitism. i think there is a lot of barriers still. for local-

—— elitism. i think there is a lot of barriers still. for local statel of barriers still. for local state school — of barriers still. for local state school kids _ of barriers still. for local state school kids to _ of barriers still. for local state school kids to make _ of barriers still. for local state school kids to make it - of barriers still. for local state school kids to make it at - of barriers still. for local state school kids to make it at that. school kids to make it at that levet — school kids to make it at that level. ~ , . . school kids to make it at that level-_ i just - school kids to make it at thatl level._ i just think level. why is that? i “ust think there h level. why is that? i “ust think there are certain _ level. why is that? i just think there are certain factors - level. why is that? i just think there are certain factors suchl level. why is that? i just think i there are certain factors such as there are certain factors such as the private _ there are certain factors such as the private schools— there are certain factors such as the private schools getting - there are certain factors such as i the private schools getting access to the _ the private schools getting access to the best — the private schools getting access to the best coaches. _ the private schools getting access to the best coaches. it _ the private schools getting access to the best coaches. it is- the private schools getting access . to the best coaches. it is something that has— to the best coaches. it is something that has probably— to the best coaches. it is something that has probably always _ to the best coaches. it is something that has probably always being - that has probably always being there — that has probably always being there the _ that has probably always being there. the private _ that has probably always being there. the private schools, - that has probably always being. there. the private schools, they will have — there. the private schools, they will have these _ there. the private schools, they will have these coaches, - there. the private schools, they will have these coaches, it - there. the private schools, they will have these coaches, it is . there. the private schools, they. will have these coaches, it is their 'ob, will have these coaches, it is their job. it _ will have these coaches, it is their job. it is _ will have these coaches, it is their job. it is purely— will have these coaches, it is their job, it is purely cricket, _ will have these coaches, it is their job, it is purely cricket, which - job, it is purely cricket, which obviously— job, it is purely cricket, which obviously at _ job, it is purely cricket, which obviously at state _ job, it is purely cricket, which obviously at state schools - job, it is purely cricket, which obviously at state schools it l job, it is purely cricket, which| obviously at state schools it is never — obviously at state schools it is never going _ obviously at state schools it is never going to _ obviously at state schools it is never going to happen. - obviously at state schools it is never going to happen. a- obviously at state schools it is never going to happen. a lot i obviously at state schools it is. never going to happen. a lot of coaches — never going to happen. a lot of coaches in _ never going to happen. a lot of coaches in lancashire, - never going to happen. a lot of coaches in lancashire, where l never going to happen. a lot of coaches in lancashire, where ii never going to happen. a lot of. coaches in lancashire, where i am from. _ coaches in lancashire, where i am from. they— coaches in lancashire, where i am from. they have _ coaches in lancashire, where i am from, they have links— coaches in lancashire, where i am from, they have links with - coaches in lancashire, where i am from, they have links with the - from, they have links with the cricket — from, they have links with the cricket board, _ from, they have links with the cricket board, so— from, they have links with the cricket board, so there - from, they have links with the cricket board, so there is - cricket board, so there is automatically _ cricket board, so there is automatically a - cricket board, so there is automatically a benefit . cricket board, so there is| automatically a benefit to cricket board, so there is - automatically a benefit to go to a private _ automatically a benefit to go to a private school _ automatically a benefit to go to a private school that _ automatically a benefit to go to a private school that has _ automatically a benefit to go to a private school that has a - automatically a benefit to go to a private school that has a direct. private school that has a direct link to — private school that has a direct link to the _ private school that has a direct link to the county, _ private school that has a direct link to the county, the - private school that has a direct link to the county, the playersl private school that has a direct - link to the county, the players that are coaching — link to the county, the players that are coaching private _ link to the county, the players that are coaching private schools. - link to the county, the players that are coaching private schools. find. link to the county, the players that| are coaching private schools. find a are coaching private schools. and a beautiful cricket _ are coaching private schools. and a beautiful cricket pitch. _ are coaching private schools. and a beautiful cricket pitch. yes, - are coaching private schools. and a beautiful cricket pitch. yes, top - beautiful cricket pitch. yes, top facilities and _ beautiful cricket pitch. yes, top facilities and things, _ beautiful cricket pitch. yes, top facilities and things, which - beautiful cricket pitch. yes, top facilities and things, which has| facilities and things, which has always— facilities and things, which has always been— facilities and things, which has always been the _ facilities and things, which has always been the case. - facilities and things, which has always been the case. now- facilities and things, which has always been the case. now it i facilities and things, which hasi always been the case. now it is facilities and things, which has - always been the case. now it is more things— always been the case. now it is more things like _ always been the case. now it is more things like if— always been the case. now it is more things like if a — always been the case. now it is more things like if a kid _ always been the case. now it is more things like if a kid get— always been the case. now it is more things like if a kid get selected - things like if a kid get selected for lancashire, _ things like if a kid get selected for lancashire, a _ things like if a kid get selected for lancashire, a lot— things like if a kid get selected for lancashire, a lot of- things like if a kid get selected for lancashire, a lot of the - things like if a kid get selected. for lancashire, a lot of the time they— for lancashire, a lot of the time they are — for lancashire, a lot of the time they are paying _ for lancashire, a lot of the time they are paying for— for lancashire, a lot of the time they are paying for their- for lancashire, a lot of the time they are paying for their own i for lancashire, a lot of the time . they are paying for their own time in the _ they are paying for their own time in the games. _ they are paying for their own time in the games, during _ they are paying for their own time in the games, during the - they are paying for their own time in the games, during the week, . in the games, during the week, parents — in the games, during the week, parents have _ in the games, during the week, parents have to _ in the games, during the week, parents have to take _ in the games, during the week, parents have to take time - in the games, during the week, parents have to take time off. in the games, during the week, - parents have to take time off work, for some _ parents have to take time off work, for some people _ parents have to take time off work, for some people it's— parents have to take time off work, for some people it's not— parents have to take time off work,

for some people it's not a - parents have to take time off work, j for some people it's not a problem, some _ for some people it's not a problem, some of— for some people it's not a problem, some of the — for some people it's not a problem, some of the parents _ for some people it's not a problem, some of the parents are _ for some people it's not a problem, some of the parents are on - for some people it's not a problem, some of the parents are on their. some of the parents are on their laptops. — some of the parents are on their laptops. working _ some of the parents are on their laptops, working and _ some of the parents are on their laptops, working and watching l some of the parents are on theirl laptops, working and watching at some of the parents are on their- laptops, working and watching at the same _ laptops, working and watching at the same time. — laptops, working and watching at the same time. a — laptops, working and watching at the same time. a lot— laptops, working and watching at the same time, a lot of— laptops, working and watching at the same time, a lot of parents, - laptops, working and watching at the same time, a lot of parents, they. same time, a lot of parents, they have _ same time, a lot of parents, they have manual— same time, a lot of parents, they have manualjobs, _ same time, a lot of parents, they have manualjobs, they— same time, a lot of parents, they have manualjobs, they are - same time, a lot of parents, they. have manualjobs, they are working to feed _ have manualjobs, they are working to feed their — have manualjobs, they are working to feed their families, _ have manualjobs, they are working to feed their families, and - have manualjobs, they are working to feed their families, and they- to feed their families, and they have _ to feed their families, and they have a — to feed their families, and they have a talented _ to feed their families, and they have a talented kid. _ to feed their families, and they have a talented kid. i— to feed their families, and they have a talented kid. i think- to feed their families, and they. have a talented kid. i think there's a lot— have a talented kid. i think there's a lot of— have a talented kid. i think there's a lot of things _ have a talented kid. i think there's a lot of things that _ have a talented kid. i think there's a lot of things that the _ have a talented kid. i think there's a lot of things that the counties . a lot of things that the counties could _ a lot of things that the counties could do— a lot of things that the counties could do to _ a lot of things that the counties could do to sort _ a lot of things that the counties could do to sort of _ a lot of things that the counties could do to sort of help - a lot of things that the counties could do to sort of help them . a lot of things that the counties i could do to sort of help them out and try— could do to sort of help them out and try to — could do to sort of help them out and try to get _ could do to sort of help them out and try to get more _ could do to sort of help them out and try to get more of— could do to sort of help them out and try to get more of these - could do to sort of help them outi and try to get more of these kids. they— and try to get more of these kids. they are — and try to get more of these kids. they are definitely _ and try to get more of these kids. they are definitely out _ and try to get more of these kids. they are definitely out there, - and try to get more of these kids. they are definitely out there, i've| they are definitely out there, i've seen _ they are definitely out there, i've seen it— they are definitely out there, i've seen it myself. _ they are definitely out there, i've seen it myself, a _ they are definitely out there, i've seen it myself, a lot _ they are definitely out there, i've seen it myself, a lot of— they are definitely out there, i've seen it myself, a lot of talented i seen it myself, a lot of talented kids out— seen it myself, a lot of talented kids out there, _ seen it myself, a lot of talented kids out there, but _ seen it myself, a lot of talented kids out there, but they- seen it myself, a lot of talented kids out there, but they have i seen it myself, a lot of talented kids out there, but they have toj kids out there, but they have to work _ kids out there, but they have to work so — kids out there, but they have to work so much _ kids out there, but they have to work so much harder. _ kids out there, but they have to work so much harder.— kids out there, but they have to work so much harder. that's a really aood work so much harder. that's a really good point- — work so much harder. that's a really good point- let _ work so much harder. that's a really good point. let me _ work so much harder. that's a really good point. let me throw— work so much harder. that's a really good point. let me throw that - work so much harder. that's a really good point. let me throw that to . good point. let me throw that to shahid ali. hi, shahid, with the elitism, classism, racism, cricket in general is cutting off its nose to spite its face, it is missing such great potential talent? it is. this is one _ such great potential talent? it is. this is one of _ such great potential talent? it is. this is one of the _ such great potential talent? it is. this is one of the biggest... - such great potential talent? it is. this is one of the biggest. .. i - this is one of the biggest... i mean, in recent years, we've seen real in cricket. we started four

years ago, we are a fully fledged club, up to adult level cricket, my experience has been diverse over the last four years. there are issues in the system, there's issues at all different levels. i would say there's a lot of good clubs out there. let's not look downwards, it's about looking upwards. i'm on thejunior it's about looking upwards. i'm on the junior league committee, we are doing a lot of good work to drive the game forward. at one of the things i've experienced in my time is when there are two things were talking about, one around club development support, that is being given by yorkshire cricket to us, by the development officers, we have been fantastically supported. no question about it. we've been using the chance to shine cricket project to drive kids into cricket for a

very young age. there is something separate, a boy's project and a girl's project, and that has been progressed and the kids have developed. we have better cricket is coming through. that is when you start hitting the glass ceiling. unfortunately, when you talk about elitism in the sport and class, it's not as simple as just class. it's about affordability. it's about coaches at the grassroots who work for these counties, who don't want to work with kids from low socioeconomic backgrounds, because they can't pay the bills. the money is in private schools, where the parents are quite wealthy, they can afford to pay £50 per hour to get their child private coaching, one—to—one coaching. maybe once or twice a week, even, all year round. we have kids who have progressed

really well, have been really well supported. we have tried to put in extra time and effort into these kids, and we feel that they are good enough to get into that system. and they have got in. once you get into those teams, then the opportunities to actually perform and play are not the same. i to actually perform and play are not the same. . to actually perform and play are not the same. , ., ., ., . the same. i 'ust want to reinforce that, the same. ijust want to reinforce that. having _ the same. ijust want to reinforce that, having read _ the same. ijust want to reinforce that, having read the _ that, having read the recommendations, or most of them, because there's a lot of them. recommendation aa, it is just right on what you are saying. it's a sub—recommendation. financial assistance should be made available where necessary to cover other costs incurred by participants in lower socioeconomic groups, travel, cost of equipment and practical steps should be taken to provide free transport to training, trials and matches. much clearer and more stringent requirements should be included in county partnership agreements about this financial

assistance. you were right on the money, as it were, an appropriate phrase, not one. let's bring in paul, and naveed. paul, on the elitism, takes a coach to show you how to hold a cricket bat properly, example? how to hold a cricket bat properly, examle? . ~ . example? yes, i think there are massive steps — example? yes, i think there are massive steps that _ example? yes, i think there are massive steps that cricket - example? yes, i think there are massive steps that cricket have | massive steps that cricket have made — massive steps that cricket have made you _ massive steps that cricket have made. you know, the coaches representing cricket, the gentleman on the _ representing cricket, the gentleman on the breakfast show was talking about— on the breakfast show was talking about a _ on the breakfast show was talking about a club in cirencester, a massive _ about a club in cirencester, a massive commitment people have put into the _ massive commitment people have put into the game at club level. the challenge, as you addressed already, the massive difference between club cricket _ the massive difference between club cricket and the talent pathway is huge _ cricket and the talent pathway is huge we — cricket and the talent pathway is huge. we are talking about a cultural— huge. we are talking about a cultural shift that needs to be made — cultural shift that needs to be made i— cultural shift that needs to be made. i am cultural shift that needs to be made. lam really cultural shift that needs to be made. i am really concerned to hear reports _ made. i am really concerned to hear reports about the chair reviewing it over the _ reports about the chair reviewing it over the next three months, this is

a cultural— over the next three months, this is a cultural shift, it's going to take five or— a cultural shift, it's going to take five or ten— a cultural shift, it's going to take five or ten years to bring it into place. — five or ten years to bring it into place. as— five or ten years to bring it into place, as has been evidenced over the last— place, as has been evidenced over the last few calls, we are talking about _ the last few calls, we are talking about facilities, here in manchester, we have facilities which are absolutely amazing. and we are fighting _ are absolutely amazing. and we are fighting against that. it's a massive _ fighting against that. it's a massive shift in our culture that we need _ massive shift in our culture that we need to— massive shift in our culture that we need to change. i think there's a real problem about the game taking that on— real problem about the game taking that on board. it does come down to quality— that on board. it does come down to quality coaches, who understand and are able _ quality coaches, who understand and are able to _ quality coaches, who understand and are able to interact with a child at the right— are able to interact with a child at the right time. | are able to interact with a child at the right time.— the right time. i 'ust wonder, is it reflective of — the right time. ijust wonder, is it reflective of society, _ the right time. ijust wonder, is it reflective of society, holding - the right time. ijust wonder, is it reflective of society, holding a . reflective of society, holding a mirror up to cricket, or is cricket a game that is behind society? ii a game that is behind society? if you look at the research, there is clear— you look at the research, there is clear evidence over the last ten years _ clear evidence over the last ten years that — clear evidence over the last ten years that sport has become more elitist _ years that sport has become more elitist you — years that sport has become more elitist. you do have to get to certain— elitist. you do have to get to certain events, coaching etc. we

have _ certain events, coaching etc. we have a _ certain events, coaching etc. we have a massive drop in funding from when _ have a massive drop in funding from when the _ have a massive drop in funding from when the sport trust was around in schools. _ when the sport trust was around in schools. we — when the sport trust was around in schools, we lost that massive gap. sports _ schools, we lost that massive gap. sports like — schools, we lost that massive gap. sports like hockey, cricket, they have _ sports like hockey, cricket, they have fallen behind in that respect. it's have fallen behind in that respect. it's unfair— have fallen behind in that respect. it's unfair on teachers to have to expect— it's unfair on teachers to have to expect them to cover some of this curriculum — expect them to cover some of this curriculum work, which in cricket takes _ curriculum work, which in cricket takes quite — curriculum work, which in cricket takes quite a while. for curriculum work, which in cricket takes quite a while.— curriculum work, which in cricket takes quite a while. for sure, there is another thing, _ takes quite a while. for sure, there is another thing, it _ takes quite a while. for sure, there is another thing, it is _ takes quite a while. for sure, there is another thing, it is a _ takes quite a while. for sure, there is another thing, it is a game - takes quite a while. for sure, there is another thing, it is a game quite| is another thing, it is a game quite wonderfully steeped in the past, full of nostalgia, full of archive and full of tradition, which is good and full of tradition, which is good and great. but i'm just wondering if, in a sense, it becomes set in stone, old habits die hard? old cultural habits die hard, do you think so? , .

cultural habits die hard, do you thinkso? , . a. think so? very much so. as a representative _ think so? very much so. as a representative coach, - think so? very much so. as a representative coach, i - think so? very much so. as a representative coach, i think| think so? very much so. as a - representative coach, i think brian was from — representative coach, i think brian was from oldham as well, it is a very— was from oldham as well, it is a very specific demographic. trying to .et very specific demographic. trying to get some _ very specific demographic. trying to get some of the children into training — get some of the children into training at old trafford, it's incredibly difficult to get to at a certain— incredibly difficult to get to at a certain time of the night. but they still insist — certain time of the night. but they still insist on having training sessions _ still insist on having training sessions there. transport alone is massively— sessions there. transport alone is massively difficult. when we start to also _ massively difficult. when we start to also increase the opportunities for girls. — to also increase the opportunities for girls, yes, trying to get them into a _ for girls, yes, trying to get them into a system that is effective and giving _ into a system that is effective and giving them provision is still a massive — giving them provision is still a massive challenge, when clubs are trying _ massive challenge, when clubs are trying to _ massive challenge, when clubs are trying to do their best. but massive challenge, when clubs are trying to do their best.— trying to do their best. but goode eo - le trying to do their best. but goode people are _ trying to do their best. but goode people are doing _ trying to do their best. but goode people are doing good _ trying to do their best. but goode people are doing good things. - trying to do their best. but goode. people are doing good things. paul is one. tell us more. i

people are doing good things. paul is one. tell us more.— is one. tell us more. i volunteered at our village _ is one. tell us more. i volunteered at our village cricket _ is one. tell us more. i volunteered at our village cricket club. - is one. tell us more. i volunteered at our village cricket club. we - is one. tell us more. i volunteered at our village cricket club. we are . at our village cricket club. we are fortunate that we are slap bang in the middle of two public schools. i have not found any of what has been brought out in this report at our club. if anything, the kids that play at our club actually bring on the otherjuniors who are not fortunate to go to a public school. they are really supportive. we range from under nine all the way of to under 15, we have seven or eight teams, we have girls, we have a ladies team, the men's team is a mixture of normal, working class people and asians, who all integrate together fantastically. i'm people and asians, who all integrate togetherfantastically. i'm not together fantastically. i'm not saying togetherfantastically. i'm not saying there is no racism or elitism. we've experienced it from teams that have come to play there. everybody at the club as a

volunteer. we have a mixture of coaches. we have a part—time coach from northamptonshire, so we are lucky in that respect. without the volunteers the club would be nothing. our groundsman has been doing it for 1a years. i told him nothing. our groundsman has been doing it for 1a years. itold him he needs to listen to this. i doing it for": years. i told him he needs to listen to this.— needs to listen to this. i wonder what your _ needs to listen to this. i wonder what your groundsman - needs to listen to this. i wonder what your groundsman bill - needs to listen to this. i wonder i what your groundsman bill makes needs to listen to this. i wonder - what your groundsman bill makes of this? bill what your groundsman bill makes of this? �* ., , , what your groundsman bill makes of this? �* . , , ., what your groundsman bill makes of this? �* , ., . , this? bill has been at the club since its inception, _ this? bill has been at the club since its inception, i- this? bill has been at the club since its inception, i think. . this? bill has been at the clubj since its inception, i think. he this? bill has been at the club i since its inception, i think. he is there some days, ten hours a day, preparing the ground, getting the bar ready. you know, without him, the club would not survive. it's the older generation. people are saying that we should get it played in schools. it's a summer sport. schools are closed for seven weeks in the summer. you know, that is the

main time of the cricket season. so without the public schools actually teaching the kids cricket, which then passes down to the state school kids, it's down to the coaching and the club set ups to do this, and i personally think our club has got it spot on. personally think our club has got it sot on. ~ . . personally think our club has got it sot on. ~ .. . personally think our club has got it sot on. ~ ., ., _, personally think our club has got it soton. ~ ., spot on. was that poor coming back in with a comment? _ spot on. was that poor coming back in with a comment? was _ spot on. was that poor coming back in with a comment? was that - spot on. was that poor coming back in with a comment? was that paul i spot on. was that poor coming back| in with a comment? was that paul is well? i in with a comment? was that paul is well? ithink— in with a comment? was that paul is well? i think there _ in with a comment? was that paul is well? i think there is _ in with a comment? was that paul is well? i think there is great _ in with a comment? was that paul is well? i think there is great work - well? i think there is great work going _ well? i think there is great work going on — well? i think there is great work going on. just to pick up the point about— going on. just to pick up the point about the — going on. just to pick up the point about the schools, are used to play cricket _ about the schools, are used to play cricket at _ about the schools, are used to play cricket at school, in a state school. _ cricket at school, in a state school. so _ cricket at school, in a state school, so there is plenty of time before _ school, so there is plenty of time before they break up to play cricket and have _ before they break up to play cricket and have coaches going in. our local club. _ and have coaches going in. our local club. we _ and have coaches going in. our local club, we actually do quite a lot of outreach. — club, we actually do quite a lot of outreach, we go into primary schools _ outreach, we go into primary schools. it is definitely happening at clubs — schools. it is definitely happening at clubs. and there are really good people _ at clubs. and there are really good people out — at clubs. and there are really good people out there, as the guy that

wasjust— people out there, as the guy that wasjust onside. guards, who was it coming back in? i am happy to speak on the topic. who 'ust said am happy to speak on the topic. who just said topic? _ am happy to speak on the topic. who just said topic? sorry, _ am happy to speak on the topic. who just said topic? sorry, come - am happy to speak on the topic. who just said topic? sorry, come back- just said topic? sorry, come back in. iwas just said topic? sorry, come back in- i was going — just said topic? sorry, come back in. i was going to _ just said topic? sorry, come back in. i was going to say, _ just said topic? sorry, come back in. i was going to say, i - just said topic? sorry, come back in. i was going to say, i respect i in. i was going to say, i respect what these _ in. i was going to say, i respect what these gentlemen - in. i was going to say, i respect what these gentlemen have - in. i was going to say, i respect i what these gentlemen have been in. i was going to say, i respect - what these gentlemen have been doing in their— what these gentlemen have been doing in their own _ what these gentlemen have been doing in their own communities, and it is great _ in their own communities, and it is great that— in their own communities, and it is great that we have clubs like yours, but do _ great that we have clubs like yours, but do you — great that we have clubs like yours, but do you guys recognise that maybe you are _ but do you guys recognise that maybe you are outliers and there are a lot of people _ you are outliers and there are a lot of people facing very different experiences? and can you understand that from _ experiences? and can you understand that from this report, and through the experiences of so many different people _ the experiences of so many different people from different backgrounds around _ people from different backgrounds around the country, that for them, what _ around the country, that for them, what you _ around the country, that for them, what you are talking about is completely unusual... what you are talking about is completely unusual. . .- what you are talking about is completely unusual... alien. let's brine completely unusual... alien. let's bring in- -- — completely unusual... alien. let's bring in... sorry, _ completely unusual. .. alien. let's bring in... sorry, i— completely unusual... alien. let's bring in... sorry, i am _ completely unusual. .. alien. let's bring in... sorry, i am sorry- completely unusual... alien. let's

bring in... sorry, i am sorry to - bring in... sorry, i am sorry to bluster all over it, but i think that naveed might have a point to follow on from what ankur has said. thank you, good morning to all the people on the show. nicky, two or three points, obviously the issue of racial discrimination, i will not go into that, because especially after the implosion at yorkshire. but there is another underlying factor, and that is about the whole ethos of how children are selected. how can you possibly have a selector for a county side who was also a private coachin county side who was also a private coach in his own right, he was charging children up to £70 an hour, and then putting them into the county circuit? when you have got two children of almost equal ability, who was going to get that last spot in that team? someone putting money directly into the couch's pocket or an unknown child

he is naturally talented? orfrom a lower socioeconomic background? lower socioeconomic background ? naveed, one lower socioeconomic background? naveed, one of the many recommendations, let me see, nominations should be replaced by open trials, counties should expand their sources. open trials, counties should expand theirsources. putting open trials, counties should expand their sources. putting talent to focus more on state schools and local clubs, it should recognise nontraditional cricket. we recommend that selection for representative into county cricket should begin at under 1a, into county cricket should begin at under1a, not into county cricket should begin at under 1a, not before, into county cricket should begin at under1a, not before, meaning into county cricket should begin at under 1a, not before, meaning the widely documented challenges associated with talent identification and younger children is removed for the pathway programme. it kind of makes sense to me, does it make sense to you? ida. me, does it make sense to you? no, it definitely — me, does it make sense to you? tip, it definitely makes sense, but it is a matter of working through what you have just read out, a matter of working through what you havejust read out, and unfortunately there has to be a declaration of interest from the selectors, you know, have you ever coached any of these children? and

thatis coached any of these children? and that is what we have seen. and unfortunately, because of that, don't forget, we are talking about children, usually under the age of 16, then we see that falling off the cliff, you know, these children disappearing from cricket fields altogether. so it is unfortunate, and cricket is such a fantastic game, it is a sport that is played, a team sport, so you'll earn more thanjust cricket, you learn a team sport, so you'll earn more than just cricket, you learn so a team sport, so you'll earn more thanjust cricket, you learn so much which will help you through out life. . . . which will help you through out life. ., , ., , which will help you through out life. . , ., , which will help you through out life. ., . i, which will help you through out life. ., ., ., life. that is what my dads used to sa , life. that is what my dads used to say. cricket _ life. that is what my dads used to say. cricket is _ life. that is what my dads used to say, cricket is life. _ life. that is what my dads used to say, cricket is life. have - life. that is what my dads used to say, cricket is life. have you - life. that is what my dads used to say, cricket is life. have you felt i say, cricket is life. have you felt excluded, have you felt discriminated against? does this report holding a mirror up to cricket resonate with you? or do you feel slightly excluded by the report? get in touch. it is 9:3a.

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more on cricket coming up, and by the way, lest i forget, the ecb chair richard thompson will be on with naga munchetty from 12 o'clock. that is worth listening to. yeah, lots going on this morning. viewers on bbc two and bbc news will leave us at ten, as we cut across to the covid inquiry, where former health secretary matt hancock is due to appear. for listeners on 5 live and bbc sounds, we'll be talking about supermarket food and fuel prices and asking, are they fair? that's because, also from around ten, bosses of the four biggest supermarkets — tesco, sainsbury�*s, asda and morrison — are to be questioned by a committe of mps. we'll be dipping into that to bring you what they have to say. remember, the british retail consortium says food inflation was over 1a% in june.

holding a mirror to cricket, it is a pretty ugly face that is being reflected, we will talk more about that, coming up next, we have got mumtaz, katie, and delighted to hear lots of text, when i was young, there was a cricket school around there was a cricket school around the corner, wilmslow road in withington, manchester, the boys went there every friday, now the grounds where it once stood is a car park, they paved a paradise. what nonsense regarding cricket being a

summer sport, april to september is plenty of time for state schools to teach it, but it is the snobbery and elitism that deters lower classes from being interested. freddie flintoff did address this in a documentary last year, he knows it exists, that is from zara in berkshire. and my daughter recently turned eight, played and efforts cricket tournament for the club on sunday, it was away from home, and three girls teams took part, the club didn't send a couch, it was left to the dads to arrange it, the boys had a couch at home. the club is amazing normally, but it seems biased to the boys' team. such good callers today, hear, hear, so much good work from cricket clubs, the danger is that it will demoralise the volunteer base. amelia, katie, mumtaz, good morning, what is your thoughts? mumtaz, good morning, what is your thou~hts? ., ., ., thoughts? good morning, how are you, nic ? i thoughts? good morning, how are you, nicky? i am _ thoughts? good morning, how are you, nicky? i am fine. _ thoughts? good morning, how are you, nicky? i am fine, some _ thoughts? good morning, how are you,

nicky? i am fine, some great _ thoughts? good morning, how are you, nicky? i am fine, some great calls - nicky? i am fine, some great calls this morning. _ nicky? i am fine, some great calls this morning, yours _ nicky? i am fine, some great calls this morning, yours included, - nicky? i am fine, some great calls this morning, yours included, are| this morning, yours included, are you shocked?— this morning, yours included, are you shocked? this morning, yours included, are oushocked? ., �* ., , you shocked? no, i'm not shocked, i knew the system _ you shocked? no, i'm not shocked, i knew the system needed _ you shocked? no, i'm not shocked, i knew the system needed a _ you shocked? no, i'm not shocked, i knew the system needed a lot - you shocked? no, i'm not shocked, i knew the system needed a lot of - knew the system needed a lot of changes through all parts of the country. obviously, players and parents will have obviously received and witnessed and experienced parts where players have got further up and down skills as not up to their child, so there is changes that need to be addressed very soon now. katie, what would you say to mumtaz about your experience? fiifi katie, what would you say to mumtaz about your experience?— katie, what would you say to mumtaz about your experience? ok, well, so, hello, about your experience? ok, well, so, hello. nicky. — about your experience? ok, well, so, hello. nicky. my _ about your experience? ok, well, so, hello, nicky, my daughter— about your experience? ok, well, so, hello, nicky, my daughter is - about your experience? ok, well, so, hello, nicky, my daughter is six, - about your experience? ok, well, so, hello, nicky, my daughter is six, so i hello, nicky, my daughter is six, so she joined _ hello, nicky, my daughter is six, so she joined chertsey cricket club, and i_ she joined chertsey cricket club, and i can't — she joined chertsey cricket club, and i can't really say anything other— and i can't really say anything other than positive things about it. tell me _ other than positive things about it. tell me the good things. it is other than positive things about it. tell me the good things.— tell me the good things. it is a massive community _ tell me the good things. it is a massive community in - tell me the good things. it is a .

massive community in chertsey. tell me the good things. it is a - massive community in chertsey. yeah? bo s and massive community in chertsey. yeah? itoys and girls. — massive community in chertsey. yeah? boys and girls, adults, _ massive community in chertsey. yeah? boys and girls, adults, teenagers. - boys and girls, adults, teenagers. she absolutely loves it there. and there is she absolutely loves it there. mr. there is nothing she absolutely loves it there. fific there is nothing elitist, she absolutely loves it there. elic there is nothing elitist, sexist about it, as we said earlier? irlot about it, as we said earlier? not that i about it, as we said earlier? not that i can _ about it, as we said earlier? not that i can see. — about it, as we said earlier? not that i can see, i— about it, as we said earlier? not that i can see, i mean... peoplej that i can see, i mean... people doinu that i can see, i mean... people doing good _ that i can see, i mean... people doing good things _ that i can see, i mean... people doing good things will _ that i can see, i mean... people doing good things will be - doing good things will be demoralised by this, the volunteer base. i demoralised by this, the volunteer base. .. , demoralised by this, the volunteer base. ~ , ., , base. i think partly that is right, but in chertsey, _ base. i think partly that is right, but in chertsey, it _ base. i think partly that is right, but in chertsey, it is _ base. i think partly that is right, but in chertsey, it isjust - base. i think partly that is right, but in chertsey, it isjust so - but in chertsey, it isjust so inclusive. _ but in chertsey, it isjust so inclusive. i_ but in chertsey, it isjust so inclusive. i don't really know what else to _ inclusive. i don't really know what else to say. — inclusive. i don't really know what else to say. i know nothing about cricket. _ else to say. i know nothing about cricket. and — else to say. i know nothing about cricket, and she came from from school. — cricket, and she came from from school. a — cricket, and she came from from school, a normal state school,, she was interested in cricket, went to chertsey— was interested in cricket, went to chertsey cricket club and she absolutely loves it. a chertsey cricket club and she absolutely loves it.— chertsey cricket club and she absolutely loves it. a big 'oy in her life. it i absolutely loves it. a big 'oy in her life. it really - absolutely loves it. a big 'oy in her life. it really is, - absolutely loves it. a big joy in her life. it really is, yeah, - absolutely loves it. a big joy in her life. it really is, yeah, and| her life. it really is, yeah, and the place _ her life. it really is, yeah, and the place is — her life. it really is, yeah, and the place is so _ her life. it really is, yeah, and the place is so welcoming, . her life. it really is, yeah, and. the place is so welcoming, with everyone —

the place is so welcoming, with everyone just looking out for each other. _ everyone just looking out for each other. and — everyone just looking out for each other. and parents stepping in to do some _ other. and parents stepping in to do some coaching. they have got professional coaches there as well. it is professional coaches there as well. it is an— professional coaches there as well. it is an amazing place. we professional coaches there as well. it is an amazing place.— it is an amazing place. we have to hanr on it is an amazing place. we have to hang on to — it is an amazing place. we have to hang on to that, _ it is an amazing place. we have to hang on to that, we _ it is an amazing place. we have to hang on to that, we have - it is an amazing place. we have to hang on to that, we have to - it is an amazing place. we have to hang on to that, we have to think| hang on to that, we have to think about the wonderful things that are happening as well, and this report quite properly identifies so many rotten things at the heart of the game, rotten is a word it used, but they are great people doing great things still, let's not forget that. no, a lot of people are doing really good things, and a listener on the other end, the speaker on the other end, her daughter is eight years old, now i have been a parent and a couch for over ten years, i am a level three coach as well, and i know the programme that the ecb have for up to nine years old, ten years old is brilliant, and as soon as you

go old is brilliant, and as soon as you 9° up old is brilliant, and as soon as you go up to the county and district level, you need to contribute towards one—to—one sessions, and thatis towards one—to—one sessions, and that is where the system breaks down. you will find that, obviously her daughter is quite young, so she will not have experienced that sort of culture yet, but as they get older, you will find various players will get selected because who they are in ones with, what kind of background they come from, so that does become more apparent, more in the face of the parents and players, and you will see that. i have been in the system for many years, and due to those reasons and my personal experience, recent bullying that i received... experience, recent bullying that i received- - -_ received... what happened? basically. —

received... what happened? basically, obviously, - received. .. what happened? basically, obviously, i- received... what happened? basically, obviously, i have i received... what happened? - basically, obviously, i have been a level three and i am a head coach on various organisations, like i am the head coach of sheffield university women's cricket team, and i've got some county players, and one girl who plays for england under 19, so thatis who plays for england under 19, so that is one of my roles as a head coach at the university. in the system that i am local to, south yorkshire, gathering information about various fixtures and grounds et cetera, and certain individual started to give me grief about, what has it got to do with me, and i said i wasjust asking has it got to do with me, and i said i was just asking questions to give information to be relevant bodies, and it'sjust information to be relevant bodies, and it's just got worse in that context, and i went for a complaint and i have not had any feedback yet, that was back in april. that and i have not had any feedback yet, that was back in april.— that was back in april. that is worrying- _ that was back in april. that is worrying. katie, _ that was back in april. that is worrying. katie, are - that was back in april. that is worrying. katie, are you - that was back in april. that is worrying. katie, are you still| worrying. katie, are you still there? what is brilliant to hear,

and it is something we wouldn't have heard ten years ago, five years ago may be, we wouldn't have heard it in the past, you have got a girl, six years old, seven years old? six... the past, you have got a girl, six years old, seven years old? sig... who years old, seven years old? six. who loves playing cricket, that brings ioy loves playing cricket, that brings joy to the heart, that is wonderful, what does she love about it? i think she en'o s what does she love about it? i think she enjoys being — what does she love about it? i think she enjoys being there, _ what does she love about it? i think she enjoys being there, playing - what does she love about it? i think she enjoys being there, playing with her friends, she enjoys being there, playing with herfriends, she she enjoys being there, playing with her friends, she enjoys the act of playing _ her friends, she enjoys the act of playing cricket. it is not something she has— playing cricket. it is not something she has got from home, because i do not know— she has got from home, because i do not know about cricket, it is not something _ not know about cricket, it is not something we have done at home, so she must— something we have done at home, so she must have got triggered at school. — she must have got triggered at school, and she just wanted to do it more _ school, and she just wanted to do it more and _ school, and she just wanted to do it more and a — school, and she just wanted to do it more and a bit further, so she has joined _ more and a bit further, so she has joined the — more and a bit further, so she has joined the cricket club and wants to id joined the cricket club and wants to go every— joined the cricket club and wants to go every week. and what i would say is that— go every week. and what i would say is that i_ go every week. and what i would say is that i know what the chap you have _ is that i know what the chap you have just — is that i know what the chap you have just been speaking to, that is a really— have just been speaking to, that is a really bad situation to have been part of. _ a really bad situation to have been part of. but— a really bad situation to have been part of, but looking at the club, chertsey—

part of, but looking at the club, chertsey cricket club, it doesn't seem _ chertsey cricket club, it doesn't seem to — chertsey cricket club, it doesn't seem to me that that would be the case there. — seem to me that that would be the case there, maybe i am incredibly naive. _ case there, maybe i am incredibly naive. i_ case there, maybe i am incredibly naive, i know some of the people involved — naive, i know some of the people involved in— naive, i know some of the people involved in the management of it, and i_ involved in the management of it, and i cannot believe that would be the same — and i cannot believe that would be the same experience for the older members — the same experience for the older members of chertsey cricket club. amelia _ members of chertsey cricket club. amelia and — members of chertsey cricket club. amelia and sarah, sarah first, we will be right with you, amelia, say what you want to say, not your real name, sarah, does this resonate? good morning. name, sarah, does this resonate? good morning-— name, sarah, does this resonate? good morning. yeah, no, totally, i have rot good morning. yeah, no, totally, i have got my _ good morning. yeah, no, totally, i have got my kids — good morning. yeah, no, totally, i have got my kids newly _ good morning. yeah, no, totally, i have got my kids newly in - good morning. yeah, no, totally, i have got my kids newly in the - good morning. yeah, no, totally, i. have got my kids newly in the county set up, they are only under ten, and i don't really play cricket at school, just a bit of quick cricket, and they are largely weirdly, self—taught, they are sporty kids who fell in love with cricket, went trials and got in. the trials system

was probably, may be at that age, fairly inclusive, because they are looking at probably broader skills, but even now, now they are playing, the difference between the kids who go to private schools and just their access, they are all in their own leagues, and a play school leagues, so they will play twice a week already on top of the club game, and generally the name of the game with sport, when you have got kids that are into it at any level, you need that sort of volume. cricket is a massively technical support, i am amazed that they can play a0 overs or whatever at under ten, but you need repetition, you need to be in nets, you need someone who can fire a ball at you over and over again and play games, so the kids were playing four times more than mine are will obviously accelerate, no matter how talented anyone is, the advantage from now, and then you

think, by the time you go to under 13s, think, by the time you go to under 135, i'm sure the proportion of private school kids in the county set up is a lot higher by then. it isjust a volume set up is a lot higher by then. it is just a volume and access to facilities, and our club is super supportive, it is great, and they will try and do anything, but we have got coaches who have 30 kids of all ability, and i can't expect specialist attention, and so we are considering, well, how can we get somebody to coach them specifically somebody to coach them specifically so they can keep up, you know? so it just feels like there is an inequality there, just right from the get go. and i say it probably feels a bit like that is just how it has always been, this is how things are always done, it doesn't feel specifically prejudiced, itjust sort of exists, and the other thing that amazed me, one of our fixtures is 200 miles away, and it is on a

tuesday in—state school term time, but obviously the private schools have broken up, and that is, wow, thatis have broken up, and that is, wow, that is just have broken up, and that is, wow, that isjust considered have broken up, and that is, wow, that is just considered around private school term time, not a state school. so just little things like that, and then weirdly, most of the kids have the kid, and there wasn't enough left for a few of us, we didn't get the memo. maybe that isjust bad we didn't get the memo. maybe that is just bad organisation, we didn't get the memo. maybe that isjust bad organisation, butjust a little micro things where we feel we are out of the loop. it is a weird sport, i have had to learn a lot myself, and i have started playing myself, and i have started playing myself, to get an appreciation of what my kids are learning, we are learning together, really. but anyway, ifeel like... compared to

melbourne — anyway, ifeel like... compared to melbourne in _ anyway, ifeel like... compared to melbourne in australia, _ anyway, ifeel like... compared to melbourne in australia, i - anyway, ifeel like... compared to melbourne in australia, i am - anyway, i feel like... compared to . melbourne in australia, i am amelia, i am melbourne in australia, i am amelia, i am on _ melbourne in australia, i am amelia, i am on holiday from melbourne to here in_ i am on holiday from melbourne to here in london, listening to radio channel. — here in london, listening to radio channel, and i been listening to you gosh. _ channel, and i been listening to you gosh. while. — channel, and i been listening to you gosh, while, the barriers, there is a reat— gosh, while, the barriers, there is a real class— gosh, while, the barriers, there is a real class difference, which i haven't— a real class difference, which i haven't found in melbourne, and i'm 'ust haven't found in melbourne, and i'm just a _ haven't found in melbourne, and i'm just a cricket— haven't found in melbourne, and i'm just a cricket mum, i don't really understand — just a cricket mum, i don't really understand it that well, but i get my son _ understand it that well, but i get my son to— understand it that well, but i get my son to and from cricket matches, and it _ my son to and from cricket matches, and it is _ my son to and from cricket matches, and it is a _ my son to and from cricket matches, and it is a real— my son to and from cricket matches, and it is a real community level thing _ and it is a real community level thing in — and it is a real community level thing in melbourne, i don't really know— thing in melbourne, i don't really know the — thing in melbourne, i don't really know the other states, but it is real community level, so the cricket clubs _ real community level, so the cricket clubs are _ real community level, so the cricket clubs are all — real community level, so the cricket clubs are all run voluntarily, it has got — clubs are all run voluntarily, it has got nothing to do with schools, and you _ has got nothing to do with schools, and you turn up at the local cricket ground. _ and you turn up at the local cricket ground. and — and you turn up at the local cricket ground, and there will be a junior open _ ground, and there will be a junior open day. — ground, and there will be a junior open day, and you sign up in full whatever— open day, and you sign up in full whatever age your kids will be, and you go— whatever age your kids will be, and you go from — whatever age your kids will be, and you go from there. everybody volunteers, parents do their bit,

scoring — volunteers, parents do their bit, scoring or— volunteers, parents do their bit, scoring or providing drinks, that sort of— scoring or providing drinks, that sort of stuff, and as your kid gets into the _ sort of stuff, and as your kid gets into the team and that, we have a cricket _ into the team and that, we have a cricket australia app with all the information, it is completely transparent, anyone can look at it, look at _ transparent, anyone can look at it, look at the — transparent, anyone can look at it, look at the stats, look at the kids who are _ look at the stats, look at the kids who are doing well, they have no idea what— who are doing well, they have no idea what school they go to, they 'ust idea what school they go to, they just look— idea what school they go to, they just look at the cage, their age, the statistics, and from there they start to _ the statistics, and from there they start to select regional teams, from under— start to select regional teams, from under 14. _ start to select regional teams, from underia, under16, and that is start to select regional teams, from under ia, under 16, and that is how it works _ under ia, under 16, and that is how it works in— under ia, under 16, and that is how it works in melbourne, that has been my experience. cricket australia really _ my experience. cricket australia really do — my experience. cricket australia really do not know what school your kid plays— really do not know what school your kid plays four or anything, all they see are _ kid plays four or anything, all they see are the — kid plays four or anything, all they see are the stats, and there will be a local— see are the stats, and there will be a local representative at the club, and my— a local representative at the club, and my son, because he is 16 now, doing _ and my son, because he is 16 now, doing under— and my son, because he is 16 now, doing under16, he is and my son, because he is 16 now, doing under 16, he is starting to play doing under16, he is starting to play for— doing under 16, he is starting to play for the seniors, so his cricket

match— play for the seniors, so his cricket match will— play for the seniors, so his cricket match will finish, but he hangs around — match will finish, but he hangs around to— match will finish, but he hangs around to train with the seniors, and their— around to train with the seniors, and their coaching staff are training _ and their coaching staff are training him, so it is a really good atmosphere. there is that bridge are starting _ atmosphere. there is that bridge are starting to— atmosphere. there is that bridge are starting to happen now, and he is finding _ starting to happen now, and he is finding his — starting to happen now, and he is finding his feet in the senior matches— finding his feet in the senior matches now. so that is our experience. matches now. so that is our experience-_ matches now. so that is our experience-— matches now. so that is our exerience. ., ., �* ., . ., ,, experience. you don't have the class obsession. — experience. you don't have the class obsession. the _ experience. you don't have the class obsession, the class _ experience. you don't have the class obsession, the class system, - experience. you don't have the class obsession, the class system, we - experience. you don't have the class obsession, the class system, we are j obsession, the class system, we are obsessed with it and riven with it. yeah. ., ., �* ., ., yeah. you don't have that in australia- — yeah. you don't have that in australia. not _ yeah. you don't have that in australia. not really, - yeah. you don't have that in australia. not really, my . yeah. you don't have that in. australia. not really, my kids yeah. you don't have that in - australia. not really, my kids don't ro to a australia. not really, my kids don't go to a private _ australia. not really, my kids don't go to a private school, _ australia. not really, my kids don't go to a private school, and - australia. not really, my kids don't go to a private school, and i - australia. not really, my kids don't go to a private school, and i don't i go to a private school, and i don't know _ go to a private school, and i don't know how — go to a private school, and i don't know how they deal with that in the private _ know how they deal with that in the private sector, but ijust know from our local— private sector, but ijust know from our local community, public school level. _ our local community, public school level. my — our local community, public school level, my son george has all these opportunities he can go for, and it has got _ opportunities he can go for, and it has got nothing to do with the school— has got nothing to do with the school or— has got nothing to do with the school or who is coaching him or the club. _ school or who is coaching him or the club. he _ school or who is coaching him or the club, he knows that good players have _ club, he knows that good players have come —

club, he knows that good players have come from that cricket club, and he _ have come from that cricket club, and he can — have come from that cricket club, and he can say that the kid next to him that— and he can say that the kid next to him that he — and he can say that the kid next to him that he played with last year is all of— him that he played with last year is all of a _ him that he played with last year is all of a sudden playing for a shield for victoria, all of a sudden playing for a shield forvictoria, so all of a sudden playing for a shield for victoria, so he can say that the kids he _ for victoria, so he can say that the kids he is— for victoria, so he can say that the kids he is rubbing shoulders with are starting to get picked up, and they kids — are starting to get picked up, and they kids come from all over the place. _ they kids come from all over the place. but. _ they kids come from all over the place. but, yeah, it is quite interesting, although he will be leaving — interesting, although he will be leaving juniors soon and going into the senior— leaving juniors soon and going into the senior world, but he is already part of— the senior world, but he is already part of the — the senior world, but he is already part of the senior cricket team already. — part of the senior cricket team already, and he already does umpiring, so they train them up to do that— umpiring, so they train them up to do that to — umpiring, so they train them up to do that to earn money, which is good for him. _ do that to earn money, which is good for him. it— do that to earn money, which is good for him. . . do that to earn money, which is good for him. , ., _, , , for him. it is a completely different _ for him. it is a completely different system, - for him. it is a completely different system, and - for him. it is a completely different system, and it . for him. it is a completely different system, and it is for him. it is a completely i different system, and it is in for him. it is a completely - different system, and it is in the interest of the cricket authorities and ultimately the country to get this right and make this inclusive, because it leads to victory, ultimately!— because it leads to victory, ultimatel ! , ., ., ,, ultimately! exactly, all the talk about how _ ultimately! exactly, all the talk about how it— ultimately! exactly, all the talk about how it is _ ultimately! exactly, all the talk about how it is going _ ultimately! exactly, all the talk about how it is going at - ultimately! exactly, all the talk about how it is going at the - ultimately! exactly, all the talk- about how it is going at the minute. our local— about how it is going at the minute. our local supermarket to sponsor it, it is a _ our local supermarket to sponsor it, it is a massive supermarket in

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