plenty of reaction to vladimir putin and how he is trying to handle things, given the events of the weekend, of course, and in the last few hours, in ukraine, that russian rocket attack on kramatorsk, upsetting details coming out about that. we will bring those to you in a moment. also on the programme, donald trump is recorded talking about having confidential documents. we'll play that audio later. artificial intelligence — ai — is being used in cancer treatment to free up doctors�* time. and more benefits seemingly are on the way. and lewis capaldi cancels the rest of his shows as he says he's still learning to adjust

to the impact of his tourette�*s. we'll be learning a bit more about it. i want to start by introducing my panel for the next hour. tonight, i'mjoined by the broadcaster and political reporter at politics home, nadine batchelor hunt, and bryan lanza, who is a former director of communications on presisent trump's transitions team and a partner at the global on president trump's transitions team and a partner at the global strategy firm mercury. hello. a proper hello in a moment, but i want to bring details out of that ukrainian city of kramatorsk, that city centre, you can see the pictures, which has been hit by a russian missile attack. we know that potentially people are trapped under the rubble as they are attempting to be rescued. we know there are injuries and we know there are fatalities there. this is effectively city centre, so an area with restaurants, and the attack happened about 7:30pm in the evening, so it would have been busy

at the time. the latest numbers are that three people have been killed in this attack. we are awaiting an update on those numbers, we have been waiting on ukrainian officials on those. there has been condemnation from the white house too. we will be keeping you across that attack on ukraine. now, i want to talk about russia and how vladimir putin has been doing with that aborted mutiny attempt over the weekend. he thinks the army for preventing civil war. it is not clear how they did that, though, because it was the wagner group that turned around themselves and aborted the mutiny.

and speaking just a short time ago, the nato secretary—generaljens stoltenberg said the events in russia over the weekend meant nato would increase its commitment to help ukraine. we all saw the events in russia over the last two days. these are internal russian matters, but what is clear is that president putin's illegal war against ukraine has deepened divisions and created new tensions in russia. at the same time, we must not underestimate russia, so it is even more important that we continue to provide ukraine with our support, and i expect that our summit in vilnius in a couple weeks�* time will send a clear message of our commitment. let's speak now live now to new york and maureen chowdry fink, chief executive at the soufan centre, an independent organisation that analyses global security issues. thanks very much for coming on the programme. we thanks very much for coming on the programme-— thanks very much for coming on the programme. we have seen vladimir putin and his _ programme. we have seen vladimir putin and his handling _ programme. we have seen vladimir putin and his handling of _ programme. we have seen vladimir putin and his handling of it - programme. we have seen vladimir putin and his handling of it now - putin and his handling of it now throughout the day, effectively

making that appearance with the military, congratulating, thanking the military. what do you make of his response to this? i think this has been serious damage control mode. for many people, the fake crew, as it is being called, was a direct hit on putin's are of invincibility, the idea that a mercenary group could make it that close to his centre of power was extraordinary, and so it is not surprising that he would spend the day really painting this as a message of victory for himself, for the russian military, which of course was the target of prigozhin�*s narrative and his ire over the last several months, in fact, certainly weeks. so i think this is really very much a damage control and face—saving mechanism and one that allows putin once again to spending narrative to his benefit domestically some point a lot of outstanding issues. first of all, let's deal

outstanding issues. first of all, let's dea ~ ., , ., , let's deal with the wagner group, the leader prigozhin, _ let's deal with the wagner group, the leader prigozhin, apparently i the leader prigozhin, apparently according to the leader in belarus. what do you think putin's options are with you with the man in the group? —— with the man and with the group.. i group? -- with the man and with the urou - .. , ., ., group? -- with the man and with the ”rou.. , ., ., ., group.. i hesitate to get into the mind of putin, _ group.. i hesitate to get into the mind of putin, but _ group.. i hesitate to get into the mind of putin, but the _ group.. i hesitate to get into the mind of putin, but the wagner i group.. i hesitate to get into the - mind of putin, but the wagner group has delivered a lot for the kremlin. they delivered influence, access in places as far afield as africa, so from africa straight to ukraine, so it is not an easy choice necessarily for putin. we have seen many people die, lose their lives, lose their freedom, for saying much less than prigozhin, so it is quite a key question, how he has stayed alive this long, and i amount of support he has had behind him has really made it difficult to consider, shall we say, and having an accident out of the window any time soon. at the

same time this level of risk will be intolerable for president putin in the long room. so what happens to not only prigozhin but his men, do they get effectively folded into the military? and beyond the men themselves, the businesses. there are thousands of mercenaries not only in belarus but also in africa, or they hold commercial interests, where they have extractive industry access, so the question is if you give it of prigozhin or if he is no longer heading up wagner, who has that access, who gets control of the african contract? i think there are many, many outstanding questions that will shape or how long we see yevgeny prigozhin. i am that will shape or how long we see yevgeny prigozhin.— yevgeny prigozhin. i am going to come back _ yevgeny prigozhin. i am going to come back to _ yevgeny prigozhin. i am going to come back to you _ yevgeny prigozhin. i am going to come back to you in _ yevgeny prigozhin. i am going to come back to you in just - yevgeny prigozhin. i am going to come back to you in just a - yevgeny prigozhin. i am going to i come back to you in just a moment, but i want to bring in our panel, the dean and bryan great to see you both. let's take the view from the us, i suppose on all this. it has been aquatics ordinary few days in

moscow —— quite extraordinary. what is the view there from washington? first of all, think you for having me, _ first of all, think you for having me, andy— first of all, think you for having me, andy you from washington isjust mass _ me, andy you from washington isjust mass confusion to what is the next brick_ mass confusion to what is the next brick thai— mass confusion to what is the next brick that falls here. what we had on saturday was the second battle, the starting of the second battle of moscow _ the starting of the second battle of moscow. this is unheard of to think about, _ moscow. this is unheard of to think about, for— moscow. this is unheard of to think about, for those who study world history. — about, for those who study world history, this is where we are again, and he _ history, this is where we are again, and he turned around, prigozhin turned _ and he turned around, prigozhin turned around 120 miles out from the capiiab _ turned around 120 miles out from the capiiab it_ turned around 120 miles out from the capital. it weakens putin's authoritarian role. he has to come back— authoritarian role. he has to come back strong, and the options of strong — back strong, and the options of strong or— back strong, and the options of strong or stronger are bad for the wagner— strong or stronger are bad for the wagner group. you're going to see the military— wagner group. you're going to see the military tried to absorb some of the military tried to absorb some of the wagner mercenaries. they did not want that— the wagner mercenaries. they did not want that a _ the wagner mercenaries. they did not want that a couple of month ago, i find it— want that a couple of month ago, i find it hard — want that a couple of month ago, i find it hard to believe they will want _ find it hard to believe they will want it — find it hard to believe they will want it now. as the guest said, a tremendous amount of assets in africa, _ tremendous amount of assets in africa, they play a tremendous role in the _ africa, they play a tremendous role in the profits of the wagner group and the _ in the profits of the wagner group and the profits of the putin administration with her spec to lithium — administration with her spec to lithium and mining, sojust a lot on, lithium and mining, sojust a lot on. but —

lithium and mining, sojust a lot on. but at — lithium and mining, sojust a lot on, but at at the end of the day this is— on, but at at the end of the day this is russia... it is run by gangs. and _ this is russia... it is run by gangs, and you only have one strong -an- gangs, and you only have one strong gang leader, and putin has a small window_ gang leader, and putin has a small window to— gang leader, and putin has a small window to dennis rick that he still has that— window to dennis rick that he still has that strength or you're going to see more _ has that strength or you're going to see more people rise challenge him again —— to demonstrate that he still hasn't — him again -- to demonstrate that he still hasn't. ., ., , him again -- to demonstrate that he still hasn't-— still hasn't. have not seen any in the ast still hasn't. have not seen any in the past as _ still hasn't. have not seen any in the past as a _ still hasn't. have not seen any in the past as a medic _ still hasn't. have not seen any in the past as a medic as _ still hasn't. have not seen any in the past as a medic as this, - the past as a medic as this, but governments and capitals around the world are just looking on, governments and capitals around the world arejust looking on, trying governments and capitals around the world are just looking on, trying to work out what does happen next? yeah, and i imagine they will be a lot of— yeah, and i imagine they will be a lot of russians _ yeah, and i imagine they will be a lot of russians as _ yeah, and i imagine they will be a lot of russians as well— yeah, and i imagine they will be a lot of russians as well for- yeah, and i imagine they will be a lot of russians as well for us - yeah, and i imagine they will be a lot of russians as well for us or i lot of russians as well for us or to the fact— lot of russians as well for us or to the fact that — lot of russians as well for us or to the fact that citizens _ lot of russians as well for us or to the fact that citizens have - the fact that citizens have been arrested — the fact that citizens have been arrested for _ the fact that citizens have been arrested for holding _ the fact that citizens have been arrested for holding up - the fact that citizens have been arrested for holding up a - the fact that citizens have been arrested for holding up a blackl arrested for holding up a black piece — arrested for holding up a black piece of— arrested for holding up a black piece of paper— arrested for holding up a black piece of paper yet— arrested for holding up a black piece of paper yet prigozhin. arrested for holding up a black. piece of paper yet prigozhin can have _ piece of paper yet prigozhin can have a — piece of paper yet prigozhin can have a armed _ piece of paper yet prigozhin can have a armed mutiny— piece of paper yet prigozhin can have a armed mutiny and - piece of paper yet prigozhin can i have a armed mutiny and marched towards _ have a armed mutiny and marched towards moscow— have a armed mutiny and marched towards moscow and _ have a armed mutiny and marched towards moscow and not _ have a armed mutiny and marched towards moscow and not really- have a armed mutiny and marched i towards moscow and not really base any serious — towards moscow and not really base any serious consequencesm. - towards moscow and not really base any serious consequencesm. i- towards moscow and not really base any serious consequencesm. i do. any serious consequencesm. i do wonder— any serious consequencesm. i do wonder whether— any serious consequencesm. i do wonder whether or— any serious consequencesm. i do wonder whether or not— any serious consequencesm. i do wonder whether or not the - any serious consequencesm. idol wonder whether or not the russian future _ wonder whether or not the russian future is _ wonder whether or not the russian future is becoming _ wonder whether or not the russian future is becoming a _ wonder whether or not the russian future is becoming a bit _ wonder whether or not the russian future is becoming a bit uncertain. future is becoming a bit uncertain in terms — future is becoming a bit uncertain in terms of— future is becoming a bit uncertain in terms of people _ future is becoming a bit uncertain in terms of people don't - future is becoming a bit uncertain in terms of people don't tend - future is becoming a bit uncertain in terms of people don't tend to i in terms of people don't tend to last very— in terms of people don't tend to last very long _ in terms of people don't tend to last very long when _ in terms of people don't tend to last very long when they - in terms of people don't tend to last very long when they cross l last very long when they cross tender — last very long when they cross lender prutton _ last very long when they cross lender prutton —— _ last very long when they cross lender prutton —— prigozhin'sl last very long when they cross - lender prutton —— prigozhin's future for isit— lender prutton —— prigozhin's future for isii one — lender prutton —— prigozhin's future for isii one of— lender prutton —— prigozhin's future for isil one of the _ lender prutton —— prigozhin's future for isil one of the russian— lender prutton —— prigozhin's future for isil one of the russian tabloids i for isil one of the russian tabloids talking _ for isil one of the russian tabloids talking about _ for isil one of the russian tabloids

talking about prigozhin _ for isil one of the russian tabloids talking about prigozhin may- for isil one of the russian tabloids talking about prigozhin may be - talking about prigozhin may be wanting to _ talking about prigozhin may be wanting to stay _ talking about prigozhin may be wanting to stay away _ talking about prigozhin may be wanting to stay away from - talking about prigozhin may bel wanting to stay away from open windows — wanting to stay away from open windows in _ wanting to stay away from open windows in buildings. _ wanting to stay away from open windows in buildings. it - wanting to stay away from open windows in buildings. it is - wanting to stay away from open windows in buildings. it is a - wanting to stay away from open i windows in buildings. it is a joke, but at _ windows in buildings. it is a joke, but at the — windows in buildings. it is a joke, but at the same _ windows in buildings. it is a joke, but at the same time, _ windows in buildings. it is a joke, but at the same time, people - windows in buildings. it is a joke, i but at the same time, people that challenge — but at the same time, people that challenge putin _ but at the same time, people that challenge putin meet _ but at the same time, people that challenge putin meet quite - but at the same time, people that challenge putin meet quite grizzly| challenge putin meet quite grizzly ends, _ challenge putin meet quite grizzly ends. so — challenge putin meet quite grizzly ends. so it— challenge putin meet quite grizzly ends, so it will— challenge putin meet quite grizzly ends, so it will be _ challenge putin meet quite grizzly ends, so it will be intruding - challenge putin meet quite grizzly ends, so it will be intruding to- challenge putin meet quite grizzly| ends, so it will be intruding to see how the _ ends, so it will be intruding to see how the situation _ ends, so it will be intruding to see how the situation develops, - ends, so it will be intruding to see how the situation develops, but i. how the situation develops, but i doubt _ how the situation develops, but i doubt putin— how the situation develops, but i doubt putin is— how the situation develops, but i doubt putin is finished _ how the situation develops, but i doubt putin is finished with - doubt putin is finished with prigozhin _ doubt putin is finished with prigozhin moving _ doubt putin is finished with prigozhin moving forward, i doubt putin is finished with - prigozhin moving forward, because it is a huge _ prigozhin moving forward, because it is a huge challenge _ prigozhin moving forward, because it is a huge challenge to _ prigozhin moving forward, because it is a huge challenge to his— prigozhin moving forward, because it is a huge challenge to his authority l is a huge challenge to his authority and it— is a huge challenge to his authority and it really— is a huge challenge to his authority and it really undermines _ is a huge challenge to his authority and it really undermines the - is a huge challenge to his authorityj and it really undermines the strong russia _ and it really undermines the strong russia that — and it really undermines the strong russia that he _ and it really undermines the strong russia that he is _ and it really undermines the strong russia that he is being _ and it really undermines the strong russia that he is being trying - and it really undermines the strong russia that he is being trying to - russia that he is being trying to project — russia that he is being trying to project to— russia that he is being trying to project to the _ russia that he is being trying to project to the rest _ russia that he is being trying to project to the rest of— russia that he is being trying to project to the rest of the - russia that he is being trying to project to the rest of the world. j russia that he is being trying toi project to the rest of the world. i want project to the rest of the world. want to come back to it for a project to the rest of the world.“ want to come back to it for a final thought on this, because people have also been scratching your heads —— their heads. wondering where this leads to conflict with ukraine. i think that is the million—dollar question. we can see the attacks today as a statement to the rest of the world that was having that effect question, to say that will be unfazed in its full—scale invasion of ukraine. much will of course depend on how the ukrainians manage their counter offensive and it has been great to hear nato say that they are looking to double down on their commitments. i think it is really key at this time that the

west not abandon its commitments to ukraine and really double down, but i think putin will feel the pressure to show that his military can deliver, it will be a key aspect of undermining prigozhin's a narrative that this is really a wagner victory, that the russian military is incompetent, cannot manage this more, so if putin wants to take back the narrative, we can expect, i imagine, to see him take some stronger measures over the coming days to show some kind of effort at effectiveness. whether it succeeds or not is the million—dollar question. or not is the million-dollar question-— or not is the million-dollar cuestion. ., ., ., question. noreen and our panel, nadine and bryan _ question. noreen and our panel, nadine and bryan, _ question. noreen and our panel, nadine and bryan, thank - question. noreen and our panel, nadine and bryan, thank you - question. noreen and our panel, | nadine and bryan, thank you very much. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today. a coroner has concluded that nicola bulley, who went missing while walking her dog by the river wyre in lancashire, died accidentally after falling into cold water. drjames adeley said the mother—of—two did not have "any desire" to take her own life injanuary.

the former health secretary matt hancock has told the covid inquiry the uk wasn't ready for a pandemic and its preparation had focused too much on the aftermath of an outbreak rather than on stopping or containing disease. he also heaped blame on international organisations such as the world health organization for advising against lockdowns. strike action by the royal college of nursing won't continue after the union's ballot of its members in england failed to achieve a legal threshold. while the majority of members voted to continue to take industrial action, the numbers taking part in the vote failed to meet the mandate. just over 43% took part — below the 50% threshold required by trade union laws. you're live with bbc news. next, the israeli government has advanced plans for some 5,700 new homes in the occupied west bank, despite us pressure to stop settlement expansion,

which it sees as an obstacle to peace with the palestinians. a us spokesperson said washington was "deeply troubled" by the development. four israeli settlers were shot dead by palestinians last week, prompting days of settler violence. earlier, the un security council met to discuss the issue. the members of the security council encouraged additional steps to restore a durable calm and de—escalate tensions and called on all parties to refrain from unilateral actions that further inflate tensions. they further urged for restraint, to reduce tension and prevent further escalation. earlier, i spoke to ambassador gerald feierstein, a distinguished senior fellow on us diplomacy and the director of arabian peninsula programme at the non partisan think tank the middle east institute who also previously served in the obama administration. he gave me his response. i think it is very troubling, as we heard in the security council,

that although we got through the ramadan period and the eid al—fitr afterwards, there has been a steady increase in the violence on both sides, and we look to be heading into a situation that is potentially quite explosive. so it is quite correct for the biden administration to be very troubled by what they are seeing on the ground. very troubled by they are seeing on the ground. —— very troubled by what they are seeing on the ground. what kind of actions, what kind of influence do you want them to exert? it's a problem for the administration, because i think thatjoe biden, as he's entering into a campaign period, is going to want to try to keep the situation in the middle east, in the israeli—palestinian conflict, as quiet as possible. there is no good option

for him, really. i think the administration is unlikely and unwilling to really exert a great deal of pressure on the israeli government, and yet, really, nothing short of a great deal of pressure is going to make much difference in trying to bring the two sides closer together. and how do you evaluate the role of netanyahu here? i think that netanyahu has made a deal with the devil. in his desperation to get back into the prime minister's seat, he has brought people into his government who are bomb throwers, who are interested in exacerbating tensions, who are interested in provocative actions, and we have seen it consistently, and bibi netanyahu has demonstrated no capacity whatsoever to really control his administration. a very challenge situation. we can bring in our panel again, nadine batchelor—hunt, political reporter,

and bryan lanza. bryan, we will start with you again, because the role of washington here is so crucial, and there did nothing to be much optimism there from the former ambassador. much optimism there from the former ambassador-— ambassador. listen, it is not a relationship — ambassador. listen, it is not a relationship that _ ambassador. listen, it is not a relationship that has _ ambassador. listen, it is not a relationship that has been - ambassador. listen, it is not a relationship that has been as l relationship that has been as simpatico as it was during the trump and not _ simpatico as it was during the trump and not the — simpatico as it was during the trump and not the other administration. you are _ and not the other administration. you are going to see these tensions. it is you are going to see these tensions. it isjust— you are going to see these tensions. it isjust descended practice for him at — it isjust descended practice for him at the _ it isjust descended practice for him at the point —— at this point. he usually— him at the point —— at this point. he usually gets republican cover when _ he usually gets republican cover when there are public and presidents, but now there is tension. _ presidents, but now there is tension, detentions are going to continue. — tension, detentions are going to continue, and all netanyahu knows is, just— continue, and all netanyahu knows is, just as — continue, and all netanyahu knows is, just as you pushing and pushing and pushing —— detentions are going to continue — and pushing -- detentions are going to continue-— to continue. nadine, the tensions have been — to continue. nadine, the tensions have been going _ to continue. nadine, the tensions have been going on _ to continue. nadine, the tensions have been going on for _ to continue. nadine, the tensions have been going on for a - to continue. nadine, the tensions have been going on for a while i to continue. nadine, the tensionsl have been going on for a while and did not seem to be going anywhere. i

think this is the consequent of the coalition netanyahu has set up here. they are quite extremist elements that will be pushing for quite far right agenda and quite if inventory agenda, and this is what we have seen, the violence in the west bank, many ways, progroms, it isjust seen, the violence in the west bank, many ways, progroms, it is just as clinton, but we have term memory there also domestic issues inside the israeli democracy. the donna for i don't really see a way out of this moving forward. —— the... i don't see any kind of straightforward solutions to this and itjust seems to keep going on and itjust seems to keep going on and on and getting worse and worse. bryan, plenty of commentary about

netanyahu's effective shift to the right here. is that an assessment thatis right here. is that an assessment that is shared in your circles? that is olitical that is shared in your circles? that is political survival. _ that is shared in your circles? that is political survival. it _ that is shared in your circles? that is political survival. it is _ that is shared in your circles? that is political survival. it is clear he needed to shift to the right to come back— he needed to shift to the right to come back to power. that is what his coalition— come back to power. that is what his coalition is, — come back to power. that is what his coalition is, it — come back to power. that is what his coalition is, it is pure political survivat _ coalition is, it is pure political survival. netanyahu is a political survivaiist— survival. netanyahu is a political survivalist and he can bring together— survivalist and he can bring together broad collections to always stay in _ together broad collections to always stay in power, and this time just so happens _ stay in power, and this time just so happens to— stay in power, and this time just so happens to be far right. gk, stay in power, and this time 'ust so happens to be far right. 0k, bryan, nadine. stay _ happens to be far right. 0k, bryan, nadine, stay there. _ happens to be far right. 0k, bryan, nadine, stay there. we _ happens to be far right. 0k, bryan, nadine, stay there. we will- happens to be far right. 0k, bryan, nadine, stay there. we will be - happens to be far right. 0k, bryan, j nadine, stay there. we will be back in a few minutes' time. we are going to head to the us. an audio recording has emerged of donald trump allegedly handling papers and saying they were "highly classified" during a post—presidential interview. during an interview with an author working on a memoir of his former chief of staff mark meadows, mr trump is heard rifling through papers and saying, "this is highly confidential." earlier this month, he appeared at a federal court in miami charged

with 37 counts of illegally retaining classified documents and obstructing the government's efforts to get them back. he has denied the charges. let's take a listen to the audio recording obtained by cnn. isn't that incredible? i was just saying because we were talking about it. and he said, "he wanted to attack iran." this was done by the military, given to me. i think we can probably... we'll have to see. we have to try to... declassify. ..figure out, yeah. as president, i could have declassified it, now i can't, you know. isn't that interesting? bryan, we have to start with you. nadine, we will start with you at one point, but it seems perverse not to set with bryan for this! just talk us through your reaction to hearing that audio.—

hearing that audio. yeah, mark meadows was _ hearing that audio. yeah, mark meadows was a _ hearing that audio. yeah, mark meadows was a horrible - hearing that audio. yeah, mark meadows was a horrible chief. hearing that audio. yeah, mark| meadows was a horrible chief of staff and — meadows was a horrible chief of staff and he continued to haunt president trump after political life. president trump after political life the — president trump after political life. the video is what the, the audio — life. the video is what the, the audio is — life. the video is what the, the audio is what the audio is, it is tough — audio is what the audio is, it is tough to— audio is what the audio is, it is tough to listen to, it needs to be authenticated, i don't know know if it has, _ authenticated, i don't know know if it has, but— authenticated, i don't know know if it has, but two weeks ago in the court. _ it has, but two weeks ago in the court. the — it has, but two weeks ago in the court, the court said president trump — court, the court said president trump could not leak, this is clearly— trump could not leak, this is clearly a _ trump could not leak, this is clearly a leak from the prosecutorial the pardon. now you have a _ prosecutorial the pardon. now you have a leak— prosecutorial the pardon. now you have a leak of documents —— department. this is more and more muddied _ department. this is more and more muddied i— department. this is more and more muddied. i wish it was more transparent, but as it gets more and more _ transparent, but as it gets more and more muddied, people are going to have less _ more muddied, people are going to have less and less trusted process, and this— have less and less trusted process, and this leak was devastating for the prosecutors to stop what we hear on the _ the prosecutors to stop what we hear on the leaking issue. on the verification issue for the one about the substance of it?

it is tough. what does that mean? you have to _ it is tough. what does that mean? you have to papers _ it is tough. what does that mean? you have to papers he's _ it is tough. what does that mean? you have to papers he's referring l you have to papers he's referring to, you _ you have to papers he's referring to, you don't have video. he could been _ to, you don't have video. he could been point — to, you don't have video. he could been point to a newspaper, pointing to it, _ been point to a newspaper, pointing to it. saying — been point to a newspaper, pointing to it, saying this type of stuff is bad, _ to it, saying this type of stuff is bad, but — to it, saying this type of stuff is bad, but either way it looks bad for him and _ bad, but either way it looks bad for him and he — bad, but either way it looks bad for him and he needs to have witnesses that refute _ him and he needs to have witnesses that refute what the government's case is _ that refute what the government's case is with her specked with documents he had. was it newspapers? because _ documents he had. was it newspapers? because i_ documents he had. was it newspapers? because i documents? there are people _ because i documents? there are people in— because i documents? there are people in the room who will testify to the _ people in the room who will testify to the grand jury, and if they validate _ to the grand jury, and if they validate the position of the prosecution it is gonna be a tough time _ prosecution it is gonna be a tough time for— prosecution it is gonna be a tough time for president trump. nadine, let's come to _ time for president trump. nadine, let's come to you. _ time for president trump. nadine, let's come to you. what _ time for president trump. nadine, let's come to you. what was - time for president trump. nadine, let's come to you. what was your i let's come to you. what was your reaction? it let's come to you. what was your reaction? , ., ., , ., reaction? it is quite ordinary for classic trump — reaction? it is quite ordinary for classic trump in _ reaction? it is quite ordinary for classic trump in a _ reaction? it is quite ordinary for classic trump in a way, - reaction? it is quite ordinary for classic trump in a way, he - reaction? it is quite ordinary for classic trump in a way, he is . reaction? it is quite ordinary for. classic trump in a way, he is very extraordinary in terms of the charges he is facing. —— quite extraordinary, classic trump in a way. potentially incrementing thing. there result of that recorded of him calling a politician in georgia after the 2020 election, saying,

essentially, try and find them more votes, so it feels like trump's always cut these audios, you don't need to read about it, you can hear about it yourself is to i am not well—versed in the american legal system, so i don't know how that is going to play off in any american courts, but it does not look good for donald trump and yet itjust seems one of those audios, quite frustrating, i imagine, for them to listen to. ., ., , , ., listen to. come to the issue of the case itself- — listen to. come to the issue of the case itself. we're _ listen to. come to the issue of the case itself. we're not _ listen to. come to the issue of the case itself. we're not going - listen to. come to the issue of the case itself. we're not going to - case itself. we're not going to bridge way it goes or anything like that or any innocence or guilt, but how in your assessment does this play when it comes to the voters? i think it helps rally the republican base because it feeds on the narrative _ base because it feeds on the narrative that trump is targeted, that the — narrative that trump is targeted, that the government is bending the rules to _ that the government is bending the rules to get to him, that they're going _ rules to get to him, that they're going through extremes, there is this sort— going through extremes, there is this sort of— going through extremes, there is this sort of trumped arrangement

system _ this sort of trumped arrangement system that reality does not present itself and _ system that reality does not present itself and they're gonna go after no matter— itself and they're gonna go after no matter what, so it certainly helps with the — matter what, so it certainly helps with the republican primaries... justjump— with the republican primaries... justjump in there, you described that as a narrative. do you believe that as a narrative. do you believe that to be true?— that as a narrative. do you believe that to be true? believe what to be true? does — that to be true? believe what to be true? does negative that _ that to be true? believe what to be | true? does negative that everyone, the government are going after... you have — the government are going after... you have to — the government are going after... you have to look back to 2015, where they spite _ you have to look back to 2015, where they spite on— you have to look back to 2015, where they spite on his campaign. all these — they spite on his campaign. all these things, clearly, there bending these things, clearly, there bending the rules— these things, clearly, there bending the rules to go to go after president trump. you have to go to new york, — president trump. you have to go to new york, where they change the law, and you _ new york, where they change the law, and you had _ new york, where they change the law, and you had the former attorney generai— and you had the former attorney general andrew cuomo saying, this is unprecedented, this would not have happened _ unprecedented, this would not have happened if it was a democrat, so i believe _ happened if it was a democrat, so i believe that over the years the democrats have changed the rules and have been— democrats have changed the rules and have been reality to try to get president trump. they have failed at every— president trump. they have failed at every term~ — president trump. they have failed at every term. that is why they keep coming _ every term. that is why they keep coming with new cases the leave voters _ coming with new cases the leave voters are — coming with new cases the leave voters are going to make the decision, _ voters are going to make the decision, gop voters are going to make _ decision, gop voters are going to make the —

decision, gop voters are going to make the decision it does not negate the challenges he has with the general— the challenges he has with the general election. independent voters are just _ general election. independent voters are just turned off by all of that behaviour— are just turned off by all of that behaviour and want to turn the pages — behaviour and want to turn the ..aes. ., ,. ., behaviour and want to turn the ..aes. ., , ' behaviour and want to turn the “aes, ., , ' i pages. fascinating stuff. bryan, nadine, pages. fascinating stuff. bryan, nadine. we _ pages. fascinating stuff. bryan, nadine, we will— pages. fascinating stuff. bryan, nadine, we will let _ pages. fascinating stuff. bryan, nadine, we will let you - pages. fascinating stuff. bryan, nadine, we will let you take - pages. fascinating stuff. bryan, nadine, we will let you take a i pages. fascinating stuff. bryan, - nadine, we will let you take a short break, we'll come back to you a little later on. thanks, vos, for the moment. fascinating issues, like coming up in us politics in the months add. want to take you back to ukraine, that developing story that we have been covering for what is it, the last couple of hours now, that strike russian missiles, on that strike russian missiles, on that ukrainian city centre, kramatorsk. we are getting, slowly, more pictures out of the city centre and you can see just there some of the devastation, and we are starting to get some more detail. the number of deaths is relatively low at the moment, thankfully. ithink of deaths is relatively low at the moment, thankfully. i think the last

number was three people killed, a0 people injured, but the unknown here is the number of people trapped under those collapsed buildings that you can see, collapsed in the rubble. this, just so you know, was a busy city centre, effectively, lots of restaurants there, for example, people out. it was 7:30pm or something in the evening, so dinnertime, plenty of people out and about, a shopping area too, so some people shopping, some people eating in restaurants, and we have been starting to hear now from witnesses, telling the bbc of hearing screening as —— hearing screening. one witness told the bbc, in his opinion, 80 or so staff and customers were in the restaurant at the time of the strike, so in his opinion, feared the casualty number

could be severe. i should say that is one person, one witness's statement to the bbc that is not corroborated any more widely than that, but that expresses, i think, some of the few right now in ukraine about the potential extent of the damage done there —— some of the fear. we will keep you across those details. forthe fear. we will keep you across those details. for the moment, fear. we will keep you across those details. forthe moment, iam fear. we will keep you across those details. for the moment, iam lewis vaughanjones. this is bbc news. hello again. according to provisional data from the met office, thisjune is going to be the hottest june we've ever seen here in the uk, beating the previous record holding year, which was back in i9a0. now, one thing you might notice over the next few days is that we could have some quite red sunrises and sunsets, and that's partly down to what's going on right across the other side of the atlantic, where in eastern canada, we continue to see these wildfires rage out of control.

and the smoke from these is building up through the atmosphere and is hitting the jet stream, getting carried across the atlantic and moving across our skies. it's really high in the atmosphere, so no concerns about air quality. but this smoke high up in the earth's atmosphere could make those sunrises and sunsets a little bit redder. something to watch out for. that is, of course, if you can see them at all, because we are going to see quite a bit of cloud over the next 2a hours behind this warm front. the warm front, well, humid air will be following that with some brisk south—westerly winds working in. and we're seeing that change to more humid conditions right now. a lot of low cloud for england and wales, northern ireland, too, some patches of drizzle, particularly for wales, western, england and southern areas of england. the drizzle probably quite extensive by the end of the night. and it'll be quite a muggy night for many of us, with temperatures 15—17 degrees quite widely, a bit fresher in northern scotland.

for wednesday's forecast, then, we start off with that drizzle. western and southern england, wales too. a band of heavier rain crosses northern ireland and moves into scotland through the day. behind that, we should see something a bit brighter, with some sunshine and some fresher air edging in. but it will feel humid across eastern england. if we do get a bit of sunshine in the east, temperatures could hit 25 degrees. i think it will stay dry, i think, for most in the east, but a different story for thursday. that weather front moves in. it's going to be a slow—moving feature with rain, maybe lasting for most of the day, and it could be very heavy as well. the rain probably welcomed for some, though, because in parts of essex, we've only seen seven millimetres of rain all month. for most of us, though, thursday is going to be a brighter day, more in the way of sunshine, more comfortable weather, really, with temperatures, high teens to low 20s with those lower levels of humidity working in. certainly, though, for a day, because the humidity picks up again through friday and the weekend stays unsettled with low pressure to the north—west of the uk. so rain could be affecting scotland and northern ireland quite a bit with showers

in the forecast elsewhere.

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