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a bbc investigation has found that paedophiles are using artifical intelligence and virtual reality technology to create and sell child sexual abuse material. they market the illegal content using accounts on mainstream platforms. responding to the bbc�*s investigation, the government says ai abuse is no different to other kinds , and tech companies will also be required to identify and remove it. live now to tel aviv and dr guy paltieli, senior child safety researcher at activefence, a safety provider for online platforms. welcome to you. thanks very much for being with us. what have you found in this area in your research? hello, good evening. what we found was a very distinctive trend which started at the beginning of the year, mark contents generated by ai tools, which became much more
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explicit in recent months. it started with content that was basically images sexualising minors, but in a few recent months, he became very much more explicit, showing children in very, very sensitive and abusive pictures. 50 it is moving at sensitive and abusive pictures. so it is moving at a fairly fast paced, isn't it? how widespread is that? we found isn't it? how widespread is that? - found that the content what was shared actually doubled during the first quarter of 2023. and we saw a lot of cases in dark where forms and messaging app groups where people sell the content, sometimes thousands of pictures of children, and it is widespread, and we found more and more examples like this in the past few months. so more and more examples like this in the past few months.— more and more examples like this in the past few months. so come i guess the big question _ the past few months. so come i guess the big question is, _ the past few months. so come i guess the big question is, how— the past few months. so come i guess the big question is, how do _ the past few months. so come i guess the big question is, how do you - the big question is, how do you prevent it?— the big question is, how do you prevent it? that is a lot that can be done and _ prevent it? that is a lot that can be done and a _ prevent it? that is a lot that can be done and a lot _ prevent it? that is a lot that can be done and a lot that _ prevent it? that is a lot that can be done and a lot that is - prevent it? that is a lot that can be done and a lot that is done . be done and a lot that is done regarding this. one is to have the
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companies that create these two wells to moderate the training data that they use, they kind of prompt —— the prompts that are being used, to block them if they can potentially generate these kind of contents, to moderate the content thatis contents, to moderate the content that is being generated. the other side of this is to monitor how the content is being shared on mainstream platforms. to know the behaviour of paedophiles, the kind of keyword search terms, the specific terminology that they use, all of this can help stop this kind of being prevented from being more widespread. hope of being prevented from being more widesread. ., ., , , ., ., widespread. how does this add to the conversation. — widespread. how does this add to the conversation, the _ widespread. how does this add to the conversation, the fears, _ widespread. how does this add to the conversation, the fears, the - widespread. how does this add to the conversation, the fears, the dangers | conversation, the fears, the dangers about al? conversation, the fears, the dangers about ai? 50 conversation, the fears, the dangers about al? , ., ., conversation, the fears, the dangers aboutai? ., ., about al? so there is a lot of different _ about al? so there is a lot of different kinds _ about al? so there is a lot of different kinds of— about al? so there is a lot of different kinds of risks - about al? so there is a lot of i different kinds of risks involved about al? so there is a lot of - different kinds of risks involved in al. especially when we talk about ai. especially when we talk about child safety and the kind of ways this content of these tools can be used for expression, for example,
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for impersonation, for deep fakes material that we also see a lot that has been created, and requested by users on dark web forums. so when we talk about child safety in particular, awareness is always very, very important. parents, for example, should be more aware that this content is being shared and the other risks that are involved in this type of content, such as impersonation. let me talk about the platforms, for example, mainstream platforms, for example, mainstream platforms, to make sure that the content is not being shared all of this again can help us mitigate the risks involving ai.— risks involving ai. parents being aware of it _ risks involving ai. parents being aware of it being _ risks involving ai. parents being aware of it being shared, - risks involving ai. parents being aware of it being shared, so - risks involving ai. parents being aware of it being shared, so cani aware of it being shared, so can this appear in someone's feed without searching for it, without wanting it?—
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without searching for it, without wantin: it? ~ , wanting it? well, in some cases it mirht. wanting it? well, in some cases it might- and _ wanting it? well, in some cases it might- and we — wanting it? well, in some cases it might. and we have _ wanting it? well, in some cases it might. and we have seen - wanting it? well, in some cases it might. and we have seen some i wanting it? well, in some cases it - might. and we have seen some cases like that. so because some of it is not very explicit, that it might be more common on mainstream social media platforms, for example. so children might be exposed to it. but the kind of broader risks involved in al, again commending the impersonation or deep fake, we know that expression, for example, is more widespread than it was in the past. these kinds of tools can be used to generate this kind of content. ., , ., ., ., ., content. 0k, lots of food for thou . ht content. 0k, lots of food for thought there. _ content. 0k, lots of food for thought there. thank - content. 0k, lots of food for thought there. thank you i content. 0k, lots of food for i thought there. thank you very content. 0k, lots of food for - thought there. thank you very much for being with us from tel aviv. thank you very much. now to france paying tribute to a child shot, at death triggered overnight writing leaving at least
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24 overnight writing leaving at least 2a officers injured. 3i overnight writing leaving at least 2a officers injured. 31 people were arrested. president macron has called the shooting unforgivable, he appealed for a respective column and hope the facts would be established. the teenagers mother has called for a memorial march on thursday. the ceilings and reports. calm, the plea from france's president. the word in nanterre last night was rage. the shooting of 17—year—old nahel yesterday setting alight the long cold war between french suburbs and french state. the police traffic check was caught on camera. a brief discussion at gunpoint. then, as nahel drives off, the officer appears to shoot him through the windscreen at point—blank range. his mother said in an online video that they'd taken her baby away. translation: he was still a child.
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he needed his mother. he kissed me goodbye in the morning and said, "i love you, mum." an hour later, i was told that someone shot my son. what shall i do? he was my life. he was everything to me. the death of young people at the hands of police here in the paris suburbs has sparked rage and riots against the state before. what's adding to the anger this time are initial claims by the police that nahel drove into officers before he was shot, a narrative that contradicted by the video that's emerged. president macron and his government have come out strongly against the police actions. translation: a teenager has been killed. _ this is inexplicable and inexcusable, and the first thing is to express affection, shared sorrow and support for his family and loved ones. france's star footballer killian mbappe was among those who are acting on social media,
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saying his france was hurting for the little angel, nahel, who left much too soon. france's national assembly held a minute's silence today as the country held its breath. parliament and suburbs, the two sides of france marking the death of a teenager in their own very different ways. lucy williamson, bbc news, nanterre. us biden has been defending his record during a speech in chicago which saw him launch his new brand maker to come as he seeks reelection. let's take a lesson. biden—omics is working. when i took office, the pandemic was raging and our economy was reeling. supply chains were broken. millions of people unemployed. hundreds of
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thousands of small businesses on the verge of closing after so many had already closed. literally hundreds of thousands on the verge of closing. today, the us has the highest economic growth rates leading the world economies since the pandemic. the highest in the world. ~ ., , ., the pandemic. the highest in the world. ~ .,, ., , world. our washington correspondent has more analysis _ world. our washington correspondent has more analysis on _ world. our washington correspondent has more analysis on what _ world. our washington correspondent has more analysis on what he - world. our washington correspondent has more analysis on what he had - world. our washington correspondent has more analysis on what he had to l has more analysis on what he had to say stop with the biden administration doesn't believe that it has received the credit it deserves for turning the economic situation around in this country, and this speech marks the start of a three week campaign during which he, president biden and the vice president,, harris will be crisscrossing the country touting the economic gains that have arisen as a result of his policies. the problem, of course, is the vast percentage of this country doesn't buy it. 0pinion polls continue to
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show that about 60% of this country doesn't trust and doesn't believe in president biden's handling of this, the largest economy in the world. so it is all about the largest economy in the world. so it is all abou— it is all about reframing the economic — it is all about reframing the economic situation - it is all about reframing the economic situation in - it is all about reframing the economic situation in this l it is all about reframing the - economic situation in this country in the run up to the election next year, making the point that there have been these amazing bipartisan achievements, infrastructure bill and so on that will yield jobs. the question, of course, is will they yield jobs in a timely fashion? 0r yield jobs in a timely fashion? or it may to fruition perhaps long afterjoe has left office? it may to fruition perhaps long afterjoe has left office? thames water, afterjoe has left office? thames water. the _ afterjoe has left office? thames water, the uk's _ afterjoe has left office? thames water, the uk's biggest - afterjoe has left office? thames water, the uk's biggest water i afterjoe has left office? thames - water, the uk's biggest water supply is in talks to secure extra funding as the government says it is ready to act in a worse case scenario if the company collapses. thames water which serves 15 million people has been under pressure over its performance, including spills of sewage and is reportedly struggling
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with £14 billion of debt. this lunch time, the company said it is working constructively with shareholders to secure the new funding needed to support its turnaround. 0ur economics editor reports. the british water industry has bobbed along in a stream of profits and easy money since privatisation 30 years ago. but something far murkier is emerging under the surface. the government, it emerged today, is on standby to take the nation's largest water company, thames water, back into effective government control as it struggles to raise the funds it needs to stay afloat amid a surprise resignation from the chief executive. i was concerned to hear the ceo had resigned abruptly, but we need to make sure thames water as an entity survives. thames has been ranked thejoint worst in the country for water treatment, sewage pollution and leaks, and all this comes amid rising multi—billion pound debts and pay outs, especially
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to the previous owners. an absolute scandal, what has happened. huge dividends paid out, huge debts taken on, customer bills rocketing, sewage being dumped into rivers. the government must come forward and explain what they are going to do to sort this out. thames water has £14 billion worth of debt — high by industry standards, and worth about 80% of its value. interest payments on more than half of that are linked to inflation, which has been very high. it is also seeking to invest around £11.5 billion to reduce leaks and sewage discharges. this is clearly a mess, but the expectation in financial circles is shareholders will provide the funds to keep thames water going. but the question is how did this come about in an industry that should be so simple, providing a product that everybody needs, and provided in monopolies of several million customers with no competition. the answer is in hugely
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complicated structures, huge debts and lots of regulation. in this case, that has come at a time when the public expect a much better performance on sewage outflows and leaks. all that requires much more investment like this work on an 18—mile tunnel under the capital to replace victorian sewers, but that is now required at a time of high inflation and rising interest rates. in a statement, thames water said it notes recent press speculation and continues to maintain a strong liquidity position, including £4.4 billion of cash and committed funding — but this is what sarah bentley, the chief executive who resigned this week, told the bbc three months ago. we are trying to reverse decades of underinvestment where there was cost—cutting, the business was hollowed out, and we are having to re—hire engineers, bring in talent, rebuild a broken business.
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that takes time. an emerging picture of a creaking system that when money was cheap saw debt piled on mainly to the benefit of shareholders, and now when the public demands more investment and better services, faces funding difficulties, with the taxpayer having to wait in the wings. faisal islam, bbc news. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. bringing you different stories from across the uk. built on duchy of cornwall farm then on the edge of dorchester, the constructing began 30 years ago. that vision of then prince of wales was for a sustainable community with jobs and facilities within walking distance and a focus on traditional architecture. it's now home to more than 4000 people. it’s architecture. it's now home to more than 4000 people.— than 4000 people. it's not 'ust housin: than 4000 people. it's not 'ust housing here. i than 4000 people. it's not 'ust housing here. you i than 4000 people. it's not 'ust housing here. you get i than 4000 people. it's notjust housing here. you get leisure, | housing here. you get leisure, retail, office, industrial use as well. we've managed to create over
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onejob well. we've managed to create over one job per well. we've managed to create over onejob per home, about 2700 jobs come about 240 businesses. figs one job per home, about 2700 “obs come about 240 businesses. as prince of wales, charles _ come about 240 businesses. as prince of wales, charles was _ come about 240 businesses. as prince of wales, charles was a _ come about 240 businesses. as prince of wales, charles was a frequent - of wales, charles was a frequent visitor here. at this visit to mark the completion of the main square was his first since becoming king. officially, responsibility for pound barry now shifts to the new director of cornwall, prince williams, but no one here is in any doubt that the king will continue to take a keen interest in his creation. for more strays from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. —— for more stories... you're live with bbc news. one of the biggest meetings yet of civil society groups working on mental health is taking place in cape town with a focus on lower and middle income countries.
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a study last year in the medical journal, the lancet, found about half of people suffering from depression in high income countries are not diagnosed or treated. but in low and middle income countries, this figure rises to as much as 90%. the group behind the meeting — the global mental health action network — says the global covid—i9 pandemic �*amplified' the conversation around mental ill—health — but that governments' commitments to act may wane, without continued pressure. earlier i spoke to... and the house unit —— health initiative that focuses on the holistic well—being and prevention of mental illness in pakistan. , ., , ., . ., pakistan. our estimates are close to 1 billion people _ pakistan. our estimates are close to 1 billion people in _ pakistan. our estimates are close to 1 billion people in the _ pakistan. our estimates are close to 1 billion people in the world - pakistan. our estimates are close to 1 billion people in the world that - 1 billion people in the world that suffer from a 1 billion people in the world that sufferfrom a mental 1 billion people in the world that suffer from a mental health condition, in every community, there will be many people with mental health conditions, in fact in every extended family there will be people suffering from mental health problems, and the vast majority of
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people who have these problems do not have access to mental health care, many people who don't have access to information on how they can help themselves or help others. the good news is that the political interest in mental health has really gone up, and there is now much more political commitment to move and do something about mental health. but the actual action and the funded programmes are still being waited for in many countries. ok programmes are still being waited for in many countries.— for in many countries. 0k what is the situation _ for in many countries. 0k what is the situation they're _ for in many countries. 0k what is the situation they're in _ for in many countries. 0k what is the situation they're in pakistan i the situation they're in pakistan around mental health and the support thatis around mental health and the support that is on offer and just how open people are talking about their own mental health? the people are talking about their own mental health?— people are talking about their own mental health? , ., ., , . mental health? the situation is much better than it — mental health? the situation is much better than it was _ mental health? the situation is much better than it was before. _ mental health? the situation is much better than it was before. i _ mental health? the situation is much better than it was before. i think - better than it was before. i think 5-10 _ better than it was before. i think 5-10 years — better than it was before. i think 5—10 years back, there was very little _ 5—10 years back, there was very little awareness. only three to four organisations, but after the covid pandemic— organisations, but after the covid pandemic when that privilege were equally— pandemic when that privilege were equally affected, there wasn't much — equally affected, there wasn't much... now there are more than 40
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organisations working in the counlrv _ organisations working in the country. so organisations working in the count . �* ., , country. so you've got this meeting of --eole country. so you've got this meeting of people from _ country. so you've got this meeting of people from all— country. so you've got this meeting of people from all over _ country. so you've got this meeting of people from all over the - country. so you've got this meeting of people from all over the world i country. so you've got this meeting of people from all over the world in j of people from all over the world in cape town at the moment. just explain what it is you are trying to achieve and what you end goals are. well, we are really happy to participate in this meeting, which brings together a very diverse stakeholders, people with the lived experience, people who have mental health conditions, carries, grassroots organisations, funders, government organisations, there is people here from 46 countries, so what is really the centre of this meeting is peer learning, learning from each other how action can be taken to advance mental health care and mental health support, so this is kind of a mix of bottom—up and top—down, where bottom—up meats top—down, where bottom—up meats top—down in terms of additive that action on mental health. it's a very important meeting and i'm pleased to be part of it. important meeting and i'm pleased to
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be art of it. important meeting and i'm pleased to be part of it— be part of it. often these things can sometimes _ be part of it. often these things can sometimes be _ be part of it. often these things can sometimes be a _ be part of it. often these things can sometimes be a talking - be part of it. often these things i can sometimes be a talking shop. have you had any take—home step that will be useful in the real world? three years back, we had another major— three years back, we had another major meeting called to speak your mind, _ major meeting called to speak your mind, and — major meeting called to speak your mind, and to be honest, our advocacy billy started _ mind, and to be honest, our advocacy billy started from that. that is where — billy started from that. that is where we _ billy started from that. that is where we learned about how mental health _ where we learned about how mental health advocacy is being done. in i feel that _ health advocacy is being done. in i feel that that led to our campaign for decriminalising suicide. so we already— for decriminalising suicide. so we already have evidence that this works. — already have evidence that this works, and what we hope for this meeting — works, and what we hope for this meeting is— works, and what we hope for this meeting is that other countries which — meeting is that other countries which have justjoined meeting is that other countries which have just joined this meeting is that other countries which have justjoined this global coalition. — which have justjoined this global coalition, they can also benefit the same _ coalition, they can also benefit the same way— coalition, they can also benefit the same way that pakistan benefits from this really— same way that pakistan benefits from this really important initiative. what — this really important initiative. what do — this really important initiative. what do you hope that it will achieve that people however want watching might be able to say, ok, well, we can take that into the world and try and implement this.
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that everybody, no matter where you are, can do something for mental health. powerful decision—makers can make huge impacts by reallocating resources in making the right decisions. but anybody in any community can do something by giving value to mental health, by talking about it, by learning from each other how we can address mental health together. mental health problems are everywhere, and we need multiple ways of addressing them and doing something for each other. in new york — a former us marine who is accused of placing a homeless man in a deadly chokehold on the subway, has appeared in court charged with second degree manslaughter. daniel penny pleaded not guilty. in video which was recorded by other passengers, he was seen restraining jordan neely, around his neck, for several minutes, including after his body stopped moving. mr penny has previously said that jordan behaved in a threatening manner when he got on the subway,
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and that he acted to protect other people. jordan's family have said he had suffered from mental health issues since his mother was strangled to death 16 years ago. here's mr penny's lawyer. all the evidence that we've seen so far, all the evidence we expect to see shows that he, that danny acted reasonably under very difficult circumstances and in a confined environment that none of us would ever want to find ourselves in. one in seven people in the uk faced hunger or were short of food in the past year — that's according to new figures from foodbank charity, the trussell trust. that's about 11 million people. and just under half the households affected — include children under 16. the government says it's providing record financial support worth an average of 3000 300 pounds per household, while also bearing down on inflation. to tell us more, i am joined by the director of policy, research and impact at the trussell trust,
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helen barnard. thank you for being with us. tell us more about these figures. who is impacted? in more about these figures. who is im acted? ., ., ., , impacted? in one of the wealthiest countries in — impacted? in one of the wealthiest countries in the _ impacted? in one of the wealthiest countries in the world, _ impacted? in one of the wealthiest countries in the world, winning - countries in the world, winning seven people are facing hunger. that's 11 seven people are facing hunger. that's11 million people cutting back on food or skipping meals altogether. it's because they simply don't have the income to afford the essentials we all need. now, there are some groups who are particularly at risk, so in particular, more than at risk, so in particular, more than a quarter of disabled people face hunger and that is around three times the rate for non—disabled people. unpaid carriers are also highly at risk of this and people from an ethnic minority background are far more at risk of facing hunger as compared to the broader white british population. these fi . ures white british population. these figures are _ white british population. these figures are from _ white british population. these figures are from last _ white british population. these figures are from last year, - white british population. these i figures are from last year, aren't they? since then, inflation has gone through the roof, running at 18.3%. what kind of impact is that having? this is part of a longer—term trend. if you take just the numbers of people having to turn to our food
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banks, we have seen 120% increase in the number of emergency food parcels we are having to give out over a five—year period, you are right, these figures are about last year. this year we have already seen things getting worse. people struggling even more to afford the essentials. at the underlying drivers stay the same, and actually the high inflation, it makes things worse. it's not the named driver. the big problem we are seeing is that social security benefits, universal credits are not connected to how much essentials actually cost. so the amount you get is way below what you need week by week to just cover the essentials. and on top of that, finding even people who are in work are being forced turn to food banks, facing hunger because they are stuck in low—paid and crucially insecure jobs and not getting a regular income week by week that you can rely on. the government — week that you can rely on. the government says _ week that you can rely on. the government says there providing record financial support, they
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raised benefits, pension is in line with inflation. if the problem is that there is a finite pot of money, isn't that? and unfortunately i guess not everybody can be helped. i think it's interesting you mention pension from other people who are universal credits, around six and ten are facing hunger, food insecurity, whereas people who are getting state pension, it's only about 3%. it's incredibly low, which is obviously right. but that shows us is that we do have the tools to solve this, and i think it is a moral imperative, and also an economic imperative to protect people from this level of severe hardship, because what we see is when people stuck in this situation, it has a massive effect on their physical health, on their mental health. it results in social isolation, and loneliness, and all of that means that people are having an incredibly bleak time. but also if we want more people in the labour market, for instance. if people are cold and hungry and scared every day
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of how they are going to have the theirfamily, that of how they are going to have the their family, that does of how they are going to have the theirfamily, that does not of how they are going to have the their family, that does not set you “p their family, that does not set you up well to acquire skills to go out and get a job or to hold down a job. so we need to fix this if we want to ease the strain on the nhs, if we want ourfront ease the strain on the nhs, if we want our front economy to fire on all cylinders and if we want to live up all cylinders and if we want to live up to our promise as a country that we will protect each other from this kind of hardship. it is we will protect each other from this kind of hardship.— kind of hardship. it is a bleak situation for _ kind of hardship. it is a bleak situation for so _ kind of hardship. it is a bleak situation for so many, - kind of hardship. it is a bleak situation for so many, isn't i kind of hardship. it is a bleak. situation for so many, isn't it? thank you so much for taking us through that. just before we go, let's leave you with a bit of skateboarding because a 13—year—old girl from australia has become the first woman ever to land a rare skateboard trick during a competition. it's called a 720 — and it involves twisting round twice on the skateboard in mid air. arisa trew is hoping to represent her country at the olympics next year in paris. emma vardy reports. the reaction of the crowd says it all. a 720 pulled off by 13—year—old arisa trew make
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skateboarding history. and tony hawk, who originally coined the trick was there to give her some coaching. it really changes the game and it opens it up to what else might be able to be achieved by this level of women and girls who are competing at the top of their game at the moment. and her performance was already impressing the after—school crowd in northern ireland. landing a trick like that means it is inspiring other riders at skate parks all over the world. it was unbelievably amazing, i could never work up to that. it is very difficult to pull off, but a 720, it is unbelievable. since skateboarding became an olympic sport, it has become increasingly professionalised.
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at its heart it's still about learning from each other parks like this one. you get people down here all the time teaching each other and basically trying to help each other improve. i love the feeling of dropping. how do you psych yourself up for a really hard trick? standing there, am i going to do it, am i not going to do it, ok, let's go. - i would new role models like arisa trew, expect to see more young female riders pushing boundaries in future. emma vardy, bbc news. wow, wow, easy wow, easy pc, isn't it? now here's the weather with darre hello there. there has been a lot of cloud around today, cloudy skies at lord's for the test match. some parts of england, though, have seen some sunshine coming through. for example, here in hampshire, it's been very muggy and very warm across many parts of england. scotland and northern ireland will be turning cooler and fresher with some sunshine around, mind you.
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that sunshine followed the rain that we started the day with. and this band of rain has been quite heavy as it's pushed across scotland, had a few thunderstorms in northern england. the rain is becoming more fragmented. it's going to squeeze down through the midlands, head to the southeast of england and across east anglia later, and still a few heavy bursts of rain in there as well. clearer skies will continue to follow from the west. a few more showers along the west coast of scotland, but a chillier night for scotland and northern ireland. single figure temperatures here, much warmer and still quite humid across east anglia and the southeast because we've still got rain around first thing tomorrow on that weather front there. it does shuffle away, and then we'll introduce this westerly breeze that will bring cooler and fresher air for all of us tomorrow. but that rain will hang around into the morning across east anglia and the southeast, then it will clear away, and then it'll be sunny spells, a few showers for a while in northern ireland, pushing eastwards across scotland and the odd shower likely across england and wales, although many places here will probably be dry in the afternoon. temperature—wise not too impressive, despite the sunshine, it is cooler air.
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so 18—19 celsius quite widely, a bit below par, really, for this time of the year. weather�*s coming in from the atlantic, keeping this unsettled theme going. more weatherfronts bringing cloud and rain into friday, wrapped around that area of low pressure, that's going to hang around through the weekend. we'll look at that in a moment, but for the eastern areas of the uk, friday starts dry and bright with some sunshine. it does cloud over, though, from the west. a little bit of light rain or drizzle mainly over western hills and coast. the more persistent rain comes into scotland and northern ireland as the wind picks up, and look at the temperatures, only 16 celsius in glasgow, 21 celsius perhaps in london. that area of low pressure, i mentioned it, it's going to hang around to the north of scotland, and around that we're going to find some stronger winds, particularly for northern parts of the uk, touching gale force maybe in northern scotland. and that's where we're going to see most of the rain saturday and into sunday. some showers and a bit of sunshine for scotland and northern ireland, one or two showers for northern england. but further south, it should be dry.
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hello, i'm maryam moshiri. hello, i'm maryam moshiri. you're watching you're watching the context on bbc news. the context on bbc news. russia sent two big powerful russia sent two big powerful missiles crashing into the centre missiles crashing into the centre of a crowded city at a busy of a crowded city at a busy time of day. time of day. civilian casulaties civilian casulaties were almost inevitable. were almost inevitable. the restaurant was gone. the restaurant was gone. totally gone. and the baltic states. totally gone. people wounded on the street. people wounded on the street. rescue workers trying to help people rescue workers trying to help people underneath the rubble. underneath the rubble. so it was absolutely a disaster. there's some concern here in eastern europe about the prospect of the wagner group being reloacted to belarus right to the border
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