tv The Context BBC News June 29, 2023 8:00pm-8:30pm BST
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the judgment very, very swiftly. welcome to the programme. the uk court of appeal has struck down the government's plan to deport some asylum—seekers to rwanda, calling it unlawful. rishi sunak has vowed to appeal the decision that has put a pause on a key pillar of his government's immigration policy. also on the programme tonight, we will be live in paris, where there has been a third straight day of protests after a 17—year—old boy was shot dead by french police on tuesday. a huge police presence has been deployed across the capital. we will have the story of maria cahill, one of the children that survived a scheme which repatriated unmarried irish mothers and their children from britain to ireland
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until the 19705. she and others are now calling for an official apology. and inflation is hitting the british family holiday this summer. prices have soared in the past year, especially on package trips, forcing some parents to choose between school uniforms or taking a short break. but first to that decision in the court of appeal. three seniorjudges ruled, by a majority, that the british government's plan to deport asylum—seekers to rwanda is unlawful, stating that rwanda could not be treated as a safe third country. thejudgment is being seen as a major setback to prime minister rishi sunak and home secretary suella braverman, who have vowed to appeal the decision. here's our home editor mark easton. the government's controversial rwanda policy and asylum strategy have been dealt a significant blow today with the appeal court concluding the east african country is not safe enough for the uk
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to send asylum—seekers there. but the lord chiefjustice, lord burnett, announced it had been a split decision. he thought rwanda was safe, but his two colleagues did not. the deficiencies in the asylum system in rwanda are such that there are substantial grounds for believing that there is a real risk that persons sent to rwanda will be returned to their home countries where they face persecution or other inhumane treatment, when in fact they have a good claim for asylum. in that sense, rwanda is not a safe third country. the government will be disappointed by today's majorityjudgment. a blow for the home secretary, who's expressed her personal enthusiasm for getting flights to rwanda started as soon as possible. but that's not the end of the legal journey. the matter will almost certainly now move to the supreme court for a final hearing later this year. the prime minister could barely contain his anger, issuing a statement saying he fundamentally
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disagreed with the court's conclusion, insisting rwanda was safe and that it was britain and its government who should decide who comes here, not criminal gangs. the home secretary, who recently visited migrant accommodation in rwanda, has confirmed the government does intend to appeal. but government lawyers will also be working out whether having no safe country they can lawfully send migrants to means the controversial illegal migration bill is now fatally flawed. well, the system is rigged against the british people. it's as simple as that. that's why we're changing the laws through our illegal migration bill. that's why we are rolling out a ground—breaking partnership with rwanda, which we believe is lawful, with a country that we believe is safe. so we need to change the system, we need to change our laws. that's how we're going to stop the boats. the government believes the threat of being forcibly removed to east africa will deter people from crossing the channel and entering the uk illegally. however, the home office's own impact assessment says
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there's little or no evidence that it will work. and refugee agencies argue today's ruling demonstrates why the whole illegal migration policy should bejunked. the government needs to seriously reconsider its policy. _ the court has said, look, it's not safe to send - asylum—seekers to rwanda. you need to make sure it is safe - before you try to send anyone there. it's a year since a plane loaded with migrants and bound for rwanda sat on the runway of an raf base, unable to leave after judges intervened. today's ruling means it will be months, if ever, before any similar flight is cleared for take—off. mark easton, bbc news. let's welcome our guest, kolbassia haoussou. he is the director of survivor empowerment at freedom from torture, which is one of the groups involved in this court case. he is also a survivor of torture. thank you very much forjoining us. start by telling us how important do you feel that this decision today is
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because we have heard from human rights groups, including a colleague in your organisation, saying this is a victory for reason and compassion but thejudges did a victory for reason and compassion but the judges did stress that their decision implies no view whatever about the political merits or otherwise of the rwanda policy? so how important is this ruling today for you? how important is this ruling today for ou? . ~ how important is this ruling today for ou? . ., . for you? thank you for having me. it's really. — for you? thank you for having me. it's really, really _ for you? thank you for having me. it's really, really important, - for you? thank you for having me. it's really, really important, and i it's really, really important, and also for somebody who, you know, came through a route which is now deemed illegal entering this country, who was also put an end in immigration detention centre and about to be deported, you know, this kind of ruling allows us to highlight really the most important part of everything is people are fleeing persecution, people are fleeing persecution, people are fleeing torture and they are coming in and seeking protection. it also our responsibility as, you know, one
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of the countries that is a signatory of the countries that is a signatory of the countries that is a signatory of the refugee convention to abide by the refugee convention and not to put our duty onto another third country in taking that responsibility away from us. and since the date one, we felt that thatis since the date one, we felt that that is not humane treatment, that is inhumane treatment and this policy would not work in this policy is not lawful. qm. policy would not work in this policy is not lawful-— is not lawful. ok, the government sa s the is not lawful. ok, the government says they are _ is not lawful. ok, the government says they are going _ is not lawful. ok, the government says they are going to _ is not lawful. ok, the government says they are going to go - is not lawful. ok, the government says they are going to go to - is not lawful. ok, the government says they are going to go to the i says they are going to go to the supreme court now, so in a sense your battle is not yet over? absolutely. i think the battle is not over. but still it's really important that, you know, we got that when right now, and it's really important that the rule of law kind of has spoken, saying that what the government is doing is unlawful. i think that's the most important. and when it comes tomorrow we will deal
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with tomorrow, but today it is really a strong message for the majority of people from this country, which stands up for torture survivors and for people who are coming and seeking protection and stands up for our compassion and our welcoming tradition. so stands up for our compassion and our welcoming tradition.— welcoming tradition. so we heard from labour's _ welcoming tradition. so we heard from labour's shadow— welcoming tradition. so we heard from labour's shadow home - welcoming tradition. so we heard - from labour's shadow home secretary yvette cooper today saying there is actually no guidebook for asylum and information on how you are supposed to apply for not easily accessible. you came through as you said the route that many other people who are facing being deported to rwanda did come in through. what are the safe, legal routes available for people wanting to seek asylum in the uk at the moment? at wanting to seek asylum in the uk at the moment?— wanting to seek asylum in the uk at the moment? �* ., , ., the moment? at the moment, is zero. i think the the moment? at the moment, is zero. i think the true — the moment? at the moment, is zero. i think the true root _ the moment? at the moment, is zero. i think the true root that _ the moment? at the moment, is zero. i think the true root that we _ the moment? at the moment, is zero. i think the true root that we know, - i think the true root that we know, one is for ukraine and the other one is for hong kong. i think that is
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the one that is the only one. and i think, you know, we heard about the afghans but nothing happened with that. you know, there is no rule —— route that is available for people. that's why people used the means available to them and try to take the risk and tried to cross. and thatis the risk and tried to cross. and that is a big part of the problem, that is a big part of the problem, that because there is no route people, legally or safely, to get in the united kingdom to have protection come up people take those kind of dangerous routes that they are taking. find kind of dangerous routes that they are takina. �* . ., i. . ~ ., are taking. and what do you make of the resnonse — are taking. and what do you make of the response from _ are taking. and what do you make of the response from the _ are taking. and what do you make of the response from the government | are taking. and what do you make of| the response from the government of rwanda, pushing back against that narrative that this is not a safe asylum for people who are seeking safe haven? i asylum for people who are seeking safe haven?— asylum for people who are seeking safe haven? i really understand the osition of safe haven? i really understand the position of rwanda. _ safe haven? i really understand the position of rwanda. i _ safe haven? i really understand the position of rwanda. i think- safe haven? i really understand the position of rwanda. i think for- safe haven? i really understand the position of rwanda. i think for me i position of rwanda. i think for me personally, it's not about rwanda.
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it's about us. it's about our moral ground. it's about our responsibility toward the refugee conference, and we are a signatory to that refugee conference. it is in our duty to protect people when they come to us. it is not for us to kind of pay and we are signatories that refugee conference. it is in our duty to protect people when they come to us. it is not for us to kind of pay another country to take that responsibility away from us. otherwise how can we contribute globally in addressing the issue of migration if we try to remove ourselves from the global help that we need to support? i think that's the most important thing that we need to see and we need to understand. we have an obligation to what the refugee convention, and we need to abide by that. we should not put that in the hands of another third country. put that in the hands of another third country-— put that in the hands of another third country. 0k, thank you very much forjoining _ third country. 0k, thank you very much forjoining us _ third country. 0k, thank you very much forjoining us today - third country. 0k, thank you very much forjoining us today and - much forjoining us today and sharing your very personal perspective and connection to this story. thank you.— let's turn now to paris, where a policeman has been charged
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and remanded in custody following the killing of a 17—year—old boy named as nahel who was shot dead by an officer on tuesday. thousands of people have been marching through the streets of the paris suburb of nanterre to remember the teenager. chanting. the march was led by nahel�*s mother, mounia. she saluted the crowds from an open—top truck. the boy's killing during a traffic stop provoked riots in paris and other cities across france. this was the scene in the french capital last night. rioters there clashed with police as cars were overturned and set alight. on tuesday, a video captured the police officer pointing his gun at the driver before pulling the trigger at point—blank range. he died shortly afterwards. the french government has announced that 40,000 police officers are being deployed across the country tonight. at a crisis meeting with senior ministers, president emmanuel macron described the violence of the past
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two nights as "unjustifiable". translation: the last few hours have been marked by scenes of violence - against police stations, schools, town halls and therefore basically against all institutions and the republic. and this is absolutely unjustifiable. and i want to thank all those who work to protect these institutions and restore calm. so, for me, the next few hours must be a time for recollection and respect. one of the people who attended today's march was mohamed jakoubi, a neighbour of nahel�*s family. he spoke about his memories of the 17—year—old. translation: he is a young man. he's very kind. he's not evil or a hooligan. what the media are saying is not true. his mum raised him well. his grandmother we know here around the neighbourhood. she's kind and helpful. she loves everyone. a young man left us for nothing.
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my colleague rajini vaidyanathan is in paris for us. she sent this update on the situation in a short time ago. this afternoon. _ situation in a short time ago. this afternoon, there _ situation in a short time ago. this afternoon, there was some violence here in_ afternoon, there was some violence herein nanterre _ afternoon, there was some violence here in nanterre. this— afternoon, there was some violence here in nanterre. this we _ afternoon, there was some violence here in nanterre. this we think- afternoon, there was some violence here in nanterre. this we think is i here in nanterre. this we think is an office — here in nanterre. this we think is an office building, _ here in nanterre. this we think is an office building, and _ here in nanterre. this we think is an office building, and you - here in nanterre. this we think is an office building, and you can. here in nanterre. this we think is. an office building, and you can see here the _ an office building, and you can see here the glass _ an office building, and you can see here the glass smashed _ an office building, and you can see here the glass smashed out, - an office building, and you can see here the glass smashed out, the l here the glass smashed out, the windows. — here the glass smashed out, the windows, some _ here the glass smashed out, the windows, some graffiti - here the glass smashed out, the windows, some graffiti there. i here the glass smashed out, the . windows, some graffiti there. now this all_ windows, some graffiti there. now this all happened _ windows, some graffiti there. now this all happened after _ windows, some graffiti there. now this all happened after a _ windows, some graffiti there. now this all happened after a march, i windows, some graffiti there. now this all happened after a march, a i this all happened after a march, a largeiy— this all happened after a march, a largely peaceful _ this all happened after a march, a largely peaceful march, _ this all happened after a march, a largely peaceful march, took- this all happened after a march, a | largely peaceful march, took place here today — largely peaceful march, took place here today. more _ largely peaceful march, took place here today. more than _ largely peaceful march, took place here today. more than 6000 - largely peaceful march, took place i here today. more than 6000 people attended _ here today. more than 6000 people attended. people _ here today. more than 6000 people attended. people calling _ here today. more than 6000 people attended. people calling for- here today. more than 6000 people attended. people calling forjusticel attended. people calling forjustice for nahel, — attended. people calling forjustice for nahel, the _ attended. people calling forjustice for nahel, the 17—year—old - attended. people calling forjustice for nahel, the 17—year—old who - attended. people calling forjustice| for nahel, the 17—year—old who was shot by— for nahel, the 17—year—old who was shot by a _ for nahel, the 17—year—old who was shot by a police _ for nahel, the 17—year—old who was shot by a police officer. _ for nahel, the 17—year—old who was shot by a police officer. now- for nahel, the 17—year—old who was shot by a police officer. now we - for nahel, the 17—year—old who wasj shot by a police officer. now we are expecting. — shot by a police officer. now we are exrtecting. many— shot by a police officer. now we are expecting, many people _ shot by a police officer. now we are expecting, many people up- shot by a police officer. now we are expecting, many people up more i expecting, many people up more violence — expecting, many people up more violence here _ expecting, many people up more violence here tonight, _ expecting, many people up more violence here tonight, so - expecting, many people up more violence here tonight, so that. expecting, many people up more| violence here tonight, so that will be a third — violence here tonight, so that will be a third night— violence here tonight, so that will be a third night of— violence here tonight, so that will be a third night of violence. - violence here tonight, so that will be a third night of violence. now, j be a third night of violence. now, the authorities— be a third night of violence. now, the authorities say— be a third night of violence. now, the authorities say they _ be a third night of violence. now, the authorities say they have - the authorities say they have deployed _ the authorities say they have deployed around _ the authorities say they have deployed around 40,000 - the authorities say they have - deployed around 40,000 officers here in paris _ deployed around 40,000 officers here in paris public— deployed around 40,000 officers here in paris. public transport _ deployed around 40,000 officers here in paris. public transport has - deployed around 40,000 officers here in paris. public transport has been - in paris. public transport has been shut down— in paris. public transport has been
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shutdown as _ in paris. public transport has been shut down as well. _ in paris. public transport has been shut down as well. people - in paris. public transport has been shut down as well. people are - shut down as well. people are bracing — shut down as well. people are bracing themselves— shut down as well. people are bracing themselves for- shut down as well. people are bracing themselves for more i shut down as well. people are - bracing themselves for more unrest. now, _ bracing themselves for more unrest. now. people — bracing themselves for more unrest. now. people who— bracing themselves for more unrest. now, people who were _ bracing themselves for more unrest. now, people who were at _ bracing themselves for more unrest. now, people who were at the - bracing themselves for more unrest. now, people who were at the march| now, people who were at the march that we _ now, people who were at the march that we spoke — now, people who were at the march that we spoke to _ now, people who were at the march that we spoke to said _ now, people who were at the march that we spoke to said that _ now, people who were at the march that we spoke to said that the - that we spoke to said that the deep-rooted _ that we spoke to said that the deep—rooted problem - that we spoke to said that the deep—rooted problem and - that we spoke to said that the i deep—rooted problem and issue that we spoke to said that the - deep—rooted problem and issue here is the _ deep—rooted problem and issue here is the relationship _ deep—rooted problem and issue here is the relationship between - deep—rooted problem and issue here is the relationship between the - is the relationship between the police — is the relationship between the police and _ is the relationship between the police and people _ is the relationship between the police and people in— is the relationship between the police and people in these - police and people in these neighbourhoods. - police and people in these neighbourhoods. many- police and people in these| neighbourhoods. many say police and people in these - neighbourhoods. many say that the police _ neighbourhoods. many say that the police officers — neighbourhoods. many say that the police officers who _ neighbourhoods. many say that the police officers who were _ neighbourhoods. many say that the police officers who were there - neighbourhoods. many say that the police officers who were there to i police officers who were there to protect _ police officers who were there to protect them _ police officers who were there to protect them simply— police officers who were there to protect them simply are - police officers who were there to protect them simply are not - police officers who were there to. protect them simply are not doing that _ protect them simply are not doing that and — protect them simply are not doing that and that _ protect them simply are not doing that. and that is _ protect them simply are not doing that. and that is why— protect them simply are not doing that. and that is why some - protect them simply are not doing| that. and that is why some people took to— that. and that is why some people took to the — that. and that is why some people took to the streets _ that. and that is why some people took to the streets for— that. and that is why some people took to the streets for that - took to the streets for that protest. _ took to the streets for that protest, which _ took to the streets for that protest, which i _ took to the streets for that protest, which i say- took to the streets for that protest, which i say was i took to the streets for that - protest, which i say was largely peaceful — protest, which i say was largely peaceful it _ protest, which i say was largely peaceful it is _ protest, which i say was largely peaceful. it is also _ protest, which i say was largely peaceful. it is also why- protest, which i say was largely peaceful. it is also why people i protest, which i say was largely- peaceful. it is also why people have been taking — peaceful. it is also why people have been taking to _ peaceful. it is also why people have been taking to the _ peaceful. it is also why people have been taking to the streets - peaceful. it is also why people have been taking to the streets in - been taking to the streets in violence _ been taking to the streets in violence. and _ been taking to the streets in violence. and so _ been taking to the streets in violence. and so we - been taking to the streets in violence. and so we will- been taking to the streets in violence. and so we will see| been taking to the streets in - violence. and so we will see what happens — violence. and so we will see what happens through _ violence. and so we will see what happens through the _ violence. and so we will see what happens through the course - violence. and so we will see what happens through the course of. violence. and so we will see whati happens through the course of the evening, _ happens through the course of the evening, but— happens through the course of the evening, but there _ happens through the course of the evening, but there is _ happens through the course of the evening, but there is a _ happens through the course of the evening, but there is a huge - happens through the course of the| evening, but there is a huge police presence _ evening, but there is a huge police presence here _ evening, but there is a huge police presence here. things— evening, but there is a huge police presence here. things have - evening, but there is a huge police presence here. things have been l presence here. things have been beefed _ presence here. things have been beefed up — presence here. things have been beefed up in _ presence here. things have been beefed up in anticipation - presence here. things have been beefed up in anticipation of- presence here. things have been beefed up in anticipation of more unrest _ we will keep an eye on that situation in paris. investigators are examing parts of the wreckage of the submersible which imploded on its way down to the titanic wreck,
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killing all five people on board. the us coast guard has revealed that what's thought to be human remains have also been recovered. our science editor rebecca morelle explains. investigators will be carefully examining the wreckage. so what do we know about what's been found? this is a full—sized model of the titan. a significant fragment that's been retrieved is the front end—cap of the sub. it's made from titanium. here you can see the viewport. but from the footage, we can see the window is missing. we don't know if it's been recovered. concerns had been raised about whether this viewport could cope with the pressure 3800 metres down. at each end of the sub, there's a titanium ring. they attach the end—sections to the hull in the middle. both have been found. these could provide vital clues. they're potentially weak points in the structure. this central area, the hull, where the passengers were, is made from carbon fibre. we don't know if any fragments
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of this section have been found. there are serious questions about the reliability of this material. it's not used by any other deep sea sub. this cladding that covers the carbon fibre though has been found. as has part of the landing frame from underneath the sub. another substantial piece is the equipment bay, which would've been covered by this tail cone. it contains the subs electronics and has suffered extensive damage. no—one knows why the titan imploded, but it's hoped that this wreckage could?establish what went wrong. a secret police unit in the uk, which spied on more than 1000 political groups and trade union activists over 40 years, should have been disbanded as far back as the 19705 had the public known about its activities. that's the conclusion of a seniorjudge heading the undercover policing inquiry. in his first interim report, sirjohn mitting says most of those spied on didn't threaten state security or pose a risk of serious
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crime, as our home affairs correspondentjune kelly reports. the vietnam war — one of the defining episodes of the 19605. protests outside the american embassy in london led scotland yard to set up an undercover police unit, the special demonstration squad, to gather information on anti—war activi5t5. soon, the sds had infiltrated scores of campaign groups. none of it was justified and the sds should have been disbanded early on, says the chair of the undercover policing inquiry. today, his words were quoted by those targeted. the question is whether or not the end justifies the means. i have come to the firm conclusion that, for a unit of a police force, it did not. amongst those spied on in the �*705 were the women's
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liberation movement, anti—apartheid campaigners, including key figures like peter, now lord hain, who went on to become a labour cabinet minister. and trade unionists who ended up blacklisted and on the breadline. this is a national scandal. this report that's come out today should be the final nail in the coffin of the metropolitan police — today, the force said the sds was set up at a time of political and social change, but it acknowledged that officers should not have used the identities of dead children as part of their cover stories or had sexual relationships with activists. with the benefit of hindsight, i there should've been more work in relation to reviewing - the information that was being gathered and more care taken in relation to the groups that. were being infiltrated. the undercover policing inquiry will now examine the activities of the spy cops who infiltrated groups in the decades since the �*605 and �*705.
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june kelly, bbc news. madonna has been discharged from hospital after spending a number of daysin hospital after spending a number of days in intensive care. the pop star's manager said she spent a number of days suffering from a bacterial infection, but it is understood that they —— she is recovering well at home. the 64—year—old material girl singer has postponed her world tour after a stay in intensive care. the celebration tour was due to begin in canada in two weeks' time before visiting 45 cities across the world. it was due to be her 12th tour, marking 40 years of involvement in the music industry. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's take a look at some other stories making news in the uk. billpayers dipped into bank and savings accounts at a record level in may, prompting warnings from charities about the ongoing high cost of living. there was £4.6 billion more withdrawn than paid into bank and building society accounts, the bank of england said. that was the highest level seen since comparable
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records began 26 years ago. nicola sturgeon says she still worries that scotland lacks resources to deal with the covid—19 pandemic like ppe. she was giving evidence to the uk'5 covid—19 inquiry and highlighted what she said were key differences between the scottish and uk governments, same her government try to suppress the virus as much as possible rather than deciding to live with it. ministers say thames water customers won't see any impact on bills or access to water if the company collapses. the uk'5 largest water firm, which supplies around a quarter of the population, is in talks to secure extra funding as it struggles to pay debts of around £14 billion. you're live with bbc news. a house of commons committee has accused some of borisjohnson's allies of waging a coordinated campaign to undermine its inquiry into the former prime minister. the privileges committee highlighted comments by former ministers,
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including jacob rees—mogg, nadine dorries and priti patel. some of borisjohnson's supporters had attacked the committee as a witch hunt and kangaroo court when they investigated whether borisjohnson misled parliament over lockdown parties in downing street. here's our correspondent ben wright with more. let's talk now with dr sam power, senior lecturer in politics at the university of sussex. thank you forjoining u5. thank you forjoining us. so another report after the report into partygate him this time pointing an accusing finger at borisjohnson's ally. how clear is that this is contempt of parliament or is that something that mp5 will have to decide when they vote on this? something that mps will have to decide when they vote on this? yeah, ou are decide when they vote on this? yeah, you are precisely _ decide when they vote on this? yeah, you are precisely right, _ decide when they vote on this? yeah, you are precisely right, and _ decide when they vote on this? yeah, you are precisely right, and the - you are precisely right, and the report does say that some of these actions could be considered to be a good contempt of parliament, and some of the actions of the mp5 that they outlined, particularly language
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such as kangaroo court and a but they don't go as far as saying this is their decision, that it was contempt. what they say in the conclusion is it is up to parliament to make any decisions on any further action that should be taken but they would like parliament to note the report they have written today, so expect the findings and then decide what to do with many of the mp5 and lords named in it. {lila what to do with many of the mps and lords named in it.— lords named in it. ok, and what you make of the — lords named in it. ok, and what you make of the defence _ lords named in it. ok, and what you make of the defence that _ lords named in it. ok, and what you make of the defence that those - lords named in it. ok, and what you make of the defence that those who j make of the defence that those who have been accused have put up? some we have heard from, jacob rees—mogg, who has previously defended his action saying it was perfectly reasonable for mp5 to challenge the findings of the committee. mr clark smith says he was shocked and disappointed to be named and that it raised serious concerns and questions about free speech. is this about free speech? i5 questions about free speech. is this about free speech?— about free speech? is not so much about free speech? is not so much about free — about free speech? is not so much about free speech. _ about free speech? is not so much about free speech. in _ about free speech? is not so much about free speech. in the - about free speech? is not so much about free speech. in the report i about free speech. in the report itself, the report suggests a number of avenues that you can go down if
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you want to make legitimate criticisms of an inquiry or of a committee. and there is a real difference here between legitimate critiques and the avenues to go down, putting evidence into an inquiry for example, and actually impugning the actions of the inquiry. a language like witchhunt and kangaroo court is very much in the latter. if we used an analogy from football, what we're looking at here is the difference between playing the ball and play the player. and the argument is that of course tactics are perfectly fine and if a ball course tactics are perfectly fine and ifa ball game, but we course tactics are perfectly fine and if a ball game, but we cannot go into footed above the knee and many of the actions of the mp5 certainly fall into the latter camp of playing the player, not the ball in this instance. ., the player, not the ball in this instance. . ., the player, not the ball in this instance. . . ., the player, not the ball in this instance. . . . ., instance. 0k, and we have heard from the prime minister's _ instance. 0k, and we have heard from the prime minister's spokesman - instance. 0k, and we have heard from the prime minister's spokesman but i the prime minister's spokesman but he is not as whether we can expect the vote from the prime minister this time. it is safe it will be a free vote in the party won't tell mp5 how to vote. how important this
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is vote going to be, do you think i5 vote going to be, do you think i'm in terms of how parliament functions because the committees that one of the things they were worried about is this would discourage people from serving on this committee?— discourage people from serving on this committee? well, what needs to ha en and this committee? well, what needs to happen and the _ this committee? well, what needs to happen and the importance _ this committee? well, what needs to happen and the importance of - this committee? well, what needs to happen and the importance of this i happen and the importance of this vote is precisely in upholding the legitimacy of parliamentary processes. so as notjust the privileges committee itself or indeed any further inquiries by the privileges committee, but actually just the committee system more broadly. so to have a vote and have a free vote is really important mainly around the president that it will set that the actions of committee members will be respected, critiqued i5 committee members will be respected, critiqued is fine, but not to bring the whole process into disrepute. and that's where we might see some broader problems, so hopefully the vote will be around those actions and around just fleshing out that nuance. and around “ust fleshing out that nuance. �* , , , and around “ust fleshing out that nuance. ~ , , , ., ., and around “ust fleshing out that nuance. �* , , y ., ., nuance. and “ust briefly, how do you think the nuance. and just briefly, how do you think the vote _ nuance. and just briefly, how do you think the vote will _ nuance. and just briefly, how do you think the vote will actually _
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nuance. and just briefly, how do you think the vote will actually go? - think the vote will actually go? well, i think there's an extent to which as he suggested in your introduction here that a lot of people, and the prime minister probably at the top of the list, is sort of done with inquiries into partygate and done with frankly inquiries into the actions of boris johnson. so i imagine the vote will be, if there is one, will be not somewhat rushed through but i imagine as he saw with the privileges committee inquiry vote itself, many conservative mp5 will stay at home and abstain because this is more awkward for them than it is for members of the opposition parties. so in many ways, expect a rerun of the privileges committee inquiry vote. the prime minister perhaps will stay away and conservative mp5 will certainly stay away and for opposition mp5, inclusive largely of the labour party, to make hay while the sun shines. it party, to make hay while the sun shines. . . , , shines. it will certainly be interesting _ shines. it will certainly be interesting to _ shines. it will certainly be interesting to see - shines. it will certainly be interesting to see how- shines. it will certainly be l interesting to see how that shines. it will certainly be - interesting to see how that goes shines. it will certainly be _ interesting to see how that goes and which way everyone votes if they do indeed vote. doctor samp power,
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thank you very much for enjoying u5, thank you very much for enjoying us, a senior lecturer in politics at the university of sussex. stay with us here on the programme with much more ahead including all the latest developments in the war between russia and ukraine, so don't go away. this is the context of bbc news. hello there. it wasn't the most promising start to the day on thursday. a lot of cloud around for central and eastern areas with some rain, too. but that all cleared out of the way, and the air turned fresher through the day with these sunnier skies working in for most of us, so didn't end up being too bad. there's the weather front then that brought the early morning rain, and that was significant rain for some. for example, in parts of essex, in andrews field, we had 12 millimetres of rain, half an inch recorded in the space of six hours. this was actually more rain than we'd seen for the whole of the month ofjune. before this, there'd only been seven millimetres falling. it has been very dry
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for parts of eastern england. overnight tonight, well, initially we've got clear spells and a fresh feel to the weather, so not a bad start to the night, but it will be turning progressively damper and more humid from the west as we go through the second part of the night. so eventually, it'll start to turn out to be quite muggy. along with that more humid air that will be pushing in as we go through friday, we will have some low cloud, some mist and fog patches around some of our western coasts and hills, and spots of drizzle falling pretty much anywhere, but particularly so in the west. a bit of heavy rain for a time into western areas of scotland. so completely different day today, sunshine certainly in short supply and a muggy feel to the weather. temperatures for the most part between 18—21 celsius. the weekend weather prospects — we start to lose that muggy air as a cold front works its way in through the night. and then, saturday and sunday, we're in this basically west—northwesterly airflow. so a fresher feel to the weather returns as we go through saturday morning. there will be quite a brisk wind with us throughout the whole of the weekend, and close to an area of low pressure
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to the north of scotland. here, we'll see showers or some longer spells of rain across the northwest. a few showers getting into the north west of england and northern ireland, but moving through with time, there'll be some sunshine — the driest and brightest weather through the afternoon across more southern parts of england and wales. it'll still feel quite warm where the sunshine pops out. and it's a similar story, really, on sunday — again, there'll be some longer spells of rain across the north west of scotland, else a few showers across the northern half of the uk. the driest, sunniest weather further south. still quite windy, temperatures for the most part between 17—23 celsius, but turning a bit cooler in the northwest of scotland. into next week, low pressure stays close to the north of the uk. so it's a case of quite unsettled weather with showers, or some longer spells of rain in the north.
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