million people on waiting list, junior— million people on waiting list, junior doctors go for strikes on five days, _ junior doctors go for strikes on five days, and also consultants. you spent _ five days, and also consultants. you spent last _ five days, and also consultants. you spent last year saying we will go with whatever the independent pay review _ with whatever the independent pay review body says, but now you can't guarantee _ review body says, but now you can't guarantee if— review body says, but now you can't guarantee if you will do it. our yukon— guarantee if you will do it. our yukon you _ guarantee if you will do it. our yukon you can deliver on this priority. _ yukon you can deliver on this priority, and all of your five priorities— priority, and all of your five priorities in a significant way —— are you — priorities in a significant way -- are ou. ,, , priorities in a significant way -- are ou. , , ., , , priorities in a significant way -- are you. simple answer is, yes, i am. i are you. simple answer is, yes, i am- i set— are you. simple answer is, yes, i am- i set out— are you. simple answer is, yes, i am. i set out clearly. _ are you. simple answer is, yes, i am. i set out clearly. it - are you. simple answer is, yes, i am. i set out clearly. it is - are you. simple answer is, yes, i am. i set out clearly. it is great l am. i set out clearly. it is great everyone is talking about them, because it is right leaders and politicians set clear objectives to make a crystal—clear what we are trying to achieve so we can be held accountable. it is good they are transparent and everyone can understand it. we are making progress, in spite of the challenges we face. we are doing things that are improving patient care right

now. amanda and steve have do see me all the time and we go through it. let's talk about urgent and emergency care, everyone remembers how challenging it was overwinter. we have a recovery plan with more doctors, nurses and ambulances and more use of faster discharge, virtual warts. all of those things are helping us improve our care performance. ambulance waiting times, one and a half hours down to rounds about half an hour. a&e waiting times were 65%, four hours at the worst, now are 75%. virtual wards, steve is doing a good job. it stops people from coming into hospital in the first place and gets them home quicker. the money we put into social care, helping to

discharge people quicker because they should be at home. the money with put in, that the chancellor put in weeks after i took office, is making a difference, real difference now to people. industrial action is challenging but we are still making progress. in terms of the backlog, we always knew it would grow, the bounce back from covid, but in spite of it, we are eliminating the people waiting a very long time. we made a significant announcement recently to give people choice about where they get their treatment. from now on when you get referred for further treatment, you can use the website or your app to select from different providers. in doing so you can cut your waiting times, because the research is clear that once you give the choice to people and they have

the choice to people and they have the choice, it can cut waiting list. it will be extended to people already on waiting lists and help us bring them down further. those are examples we are doing right now that will make a big difference to people. i am confident we will make progress and people will see the improvement of the nhs at all levels. elective, all primary care will improve. that is what we are dedicated to deliver, and i am confident we will. the telegraph... many people find it hard to get an nhs dentist. do you think more dentists — nhs dentist. do you think more dentists should work in the nhs, and is there _ dentists should work in the nhs, and is there anything in the plan to achieve — is there anything in the plan to achieve it?— is there anything in the plan to achieve it? , , . , , , , achieve it? the simple answer is yes and es. achieve it? the simple answer is yes and yes- it — achieve it? the simple answer is yes and yes- it has _ achieve it? the simple answer is yes and yes. it has an _ achieve it? the simple answer is yes and yes. it has an increase - achieve it? the simple answer is yes and yes. it has an increase in - and yes. it has an increase in dentistry training. that is in the plan. we are aware of the

challengers in nhs dentistry. we reform the dentistry contracts, we are allowing some high performing dentist to do more than 10% of their contract allowances. there are more dentists than previously and for more children are being seen than a year ago. there are challenges, the long—term workforce will help us fix them. the other thing we are exploring is the possibility of introducing a tiein for dentistry, around about two thirds of dentists after they finish their training and up after they finish their training and up not doing work in the nhs. that is something we want to look at, and it may be that we introduce eightl so people are performing more nhs work after they qualify. they have benefited from it, but we are

funding an expansion of dentists training places. i don't know if amanda or steve want to add. in training places. i don't know if amanda or steve want to add. in the ian there amanda or steve want to add. in the plan there is — amanda or steve want to add. in the plan there is a _ amanda or steve want to add. in the plan there is a plan _ amanda or steve want to add. in the plan there is a plan to _ amanda or steve want to add. in the plan there is a plan to expand - plan there is a plan to expand dentistry— plan there is a plan to expand dentistry places. _ plan there is a plan to expand dentistry places. that - plan there is a plan to expand dentistry places. that will- plan there is a plan to expand dentistry places. that will putj plan there is a plan to expand - dentistry places. that will put more capacity— dentistry places. that will put more capacity and — dentistry places. that will put more capacity and more _ dentistry places. that will put more capacity and more dentists - dentistry places. that will put more capacity and more dentists into - dentistry places. that will put more capacity and more dentists into the| capacity and more dentists into the system _ capacity and more dentists into the system the — capacity and more dentists into the systenm the tie _ capacity and more dentists into the system. the tie in, _ capacity and more dentists into the system. the tie in, that _ capacity and more dentists into the system. the tie in, that is - system. the tie in, that is something _ system. the tie in, that is something we _ system. the tie in, that is something we are - system. the tie in, that is - something we are considering. system. the tie in, that is _ something we are considering. there are wider— something we are considering. there are wider issues _ something we are considering. there are wider issues around _ something we are considering. there are wider issues around access - something we are considering. there are wider issues around access to - are wider issues around access to dentistry. — are wider issues around access to dentistry. so— are wider issues around access to dentistry. so we _ are wider issues around access to dentistry, so we are _ are wider issues around access to dentistry, so we are working - dentistry, so we are working cottectivety _ dentistry, so we are working collectively with _ dentistry, so we are working collectively with the - dentistry, so we are working i collectively with the secretary dentistry, so we are working - collectively with the secretary of state _ collectively with the secretary of state and — collectively with the secretary of state and others _ collectively with the secretary of state and others around - collectively with the secretary of state and others around dental. state and others around dental recovery— state and others around dental recovery plans _ state and others around dental recovery plans. i— state and others around dental recovery plans-— state and others around dental recovery plans. i guess more to come. recovery plans. i guess more to come- we — recovery plans. i guess more to come. we talked _ recovery plans. i guess more to come. we talked about - recovery plans. i guess more to come. we talked about this - recovery plans. i guess more to . come. we talked about this reform please, but one of the examples of reform is in dentistry, where we can have people who are not dentists but are in other allied nationals, they are in other allied nationals, they are called therapists, whether we expect them to do more dental work donein expect them to do more dental work done in the past. that is one of the changes we are looking to make. it

is an example of those modernising, doing things differently. taste is an example of those modernising, doing things differently.— doing things differently. we want --eole to doing things differently. we want peeple to be _ doing things differently. we want people to be operating _ doing things differently. we want people to be operating at - doing things differently. we want people to be operating at the - doing things differently. we want people to be operating at the top doing things differently. we want i people to be operating at the top of their licence, so the people who have their degrees should focus on what they can do, and where we can find new roles to allow people to perform other tasks. that find new roles to allow people to perform other tasks.— perform other tasks. that will im - rove perform other tasks. that will improve health _ perform other tasks. that will improve health care _ perform other tasks. that will improve health care for- perform other tasks. that will improve health care for all. perform other tasks. that will improve health care for all of| perform other tasks. that will. improve health care for all of us, and we are doing it in dentistry. 0k, next, the daily mail. {line and we are doing it in dentistry. 0k, next, the daily mail. one for the medics- _ ok, next, the daily mail. one for the medics. you've _ ok, next, the daily mail. one for the medics. you've got _ ok, next, the daily mail. one for the medics. you've got patient . the medics. you've got patient satisfaction at a record low. this is a tong — satisfaction at a record low. this is a long term plan. realistically, will people start to notice any difference within the next 12 months? 0r giving you got strikes going _ months? 0r giving you got strikes going on. — months? 0r giving you got strikes going on, might people have to accept — going on, might people have to accept things will get worse before they get— accept things will get worse before they get better? can i ask you about

yesterday's — they get better? can i ask you about yesterday'sjudgment. you confident yesterday's judgment. you confident you yesterday'sjudgment. you confident you can _ yesterday'sjudgment. you confident you can win— yesterday'sjudgment. you confident you can win in the supreme court? are you _ you can win in the supreme court? are you surprised to find them arguing — are you surprised to find them arguing against you? will we finally -et arguing against you? will we finally get the _ arguing against you? will we finally get the first flight in the air this year? _ get the first flight in the air this year? do — get the first flight in the air this ear? , ., get the first flight in the air this ear? ,., ,, . get the first flight in the air this ear? i. . ., . ,, , year? do you want to take the first one? thank— year? do you want to take the first one? thank you. _ year? do you want to take the first one? thank you. your _ year? do you want to take the first one? thank you. your question - year? do you want to take the first i one? thank you. your question about will patients — one? thank you. your question about will patients notice _ one? thank you. your question about will patients notice a _ one? thank you. your question about will patients notice a difference. - will patients notice a difference. everything — will patients notice a difference. everything we _ will patients notice a difference. everything we are _ will patients notice a difference. everything we are doing - will patients notice a difference. everything we are doing is - will patients notice a difference. everything we are doing is of- will patients notice a difference. - everything we are doing is of course geared _ everything we are doing is of course geared towards _ everything we are doing is of course geared towards making _ everything we are doing is of course geared towards making things - everything we are doing is of course i geared towards making things better for patients. — geared towards making things better for patients. as — geared towards making things better for patients, as well _ geared towards making things better for patients, as well as _ geared towards making things better for patients, as well as making - geared towards making things better for patients, as well as making surei for patients, as well as making sure our staff— for patients, as well as making sure our staff have — for patients, as well as making sure our staff have rewarding _ for patients, as well as making sure our staff have rewarding careers - for patients, as well as making sure| our staff have rewarding careers and have enough — our staff have rewarding careers and have enough people _ our staff have rewarding careers and have enough people with— our staff have rewarding careers and have enough people with the - our staff have rewarding careers and have enough people with the right . have enough people with the right skills— have enough people with the right skills to _ have enough people with the right skills to enable _ have enough people with the right skills to enable them _ have enough people with the right skills to enable them to _ have enough people with the right skills to enable them to look- have enough people with the right skills to enable them to look afterj skills to enable them to look after the patient — skills to enable them to look after the patient is _ skills to enable them to look after the patient is the _ skills to enable them to look after the patient is the way _ skills to enable them to look after the patient is the way they- skills to enable them to look after the patient is the way they want . skills to enable them to look after. the patient is the way they want to. the things— the patient is the way they want to. the things that _ the patient is the way they want to. the things that will _ the patient is the way they want to. the things that will make _ the patient is the way they want to. the things that will make an - the things that will make an immediate _ the things that will make an immediate difference, - the things that will make an immediate difference, we i the things that will make an - immediate difference, we talked about— immediate difference, we talked about retention. _ immediate difference, we talked about retention. some _ immediate difference, we talked about retention. some of- immediate difference, we talked about retention. some of the - immediate difference, we talked. about retention. some of the new roles— about retention. some of the new roles we've — about retention. some of the new roles we've talked _ about retention. some of the new roles we've talked about, - about retention. some of the new roles we've talked about, some . about retention. some of the new| roles we've talked about, some of the new _ roles we've talked about, some of the new roles _ roles we've talked about, some of the new roles and _ roles we've talked about, some of the new roles and increases - roles we've talked about, some of the new roles and increases in - roles we've talked about, some of l the new roles and increases in them will come _ the new roles and increases in them will come in — the new roles and increases in them will come in quickly— the new roles and increases in them will come in quickly because - the new roles and increases in them will come in quickly because the - will come in quickly because the training — will come in quickly because the training periods— will come in quickly because the training periods are _ will come in quickly because the training periods are reduced. i. training periods are reduced. i think— training periods are reduced. i think there _ training periods are reduced. i think there is _ training periods are reduced. i think there is a _ training periods are reduced. i think there is a lot _ training periods are reduced. i think there is a lot in- training periods are reduced. i think there is a lot in this - training periods are reduced. i think there is a lot in this planj think there is a lot in this plan that— think there is a lot in this plan that speaks—

think there is a lot in this plan that speaks to _ think there is a lot in this plan that speaks to today, - think there is a lot in this plan that speaks to today, as - think there is a lot in this plan that speaks to today, as welli think there is a lot in this plan i that speaks to today, as well as think there is a lot in this plan - that speaks to today, as well as the confidence — that speaks to today, as well as the confidence it— that speaks to today, as well as the confidence it can _ that speaks to today, as well as the confidence it can give _ that speaks to today, as well as the confidence it can give our— that speaks to today, as well as the confidence it can give our current i confidence it can give our current staff— confidence it can give our current staff about — confidence it can give our current staff about the _ confidence it can give our current staff about the fact _ confidence it can give our current staff about the fact we _ confidence it can give our current staff about the fact we will- confidence it can give our current staff about the fact we will get i confidence it can give our currentj staff about the fact we will get to a place _ staff about the fact we will get to a place where _ staff about the fact we will get to a place where we _ staff about the fact we will get to a place where we have _ staff about the fact we will get to a place where we have a - staff about the fact we will get to i a place where we have a sustainable staffing _ a place where we have a sustainable staffing modet~ _ a place where we have a sustainable staffing model. on _ a place where we have a sustainable staffing model. on the _ a place where we have a sustainable staffing model. on the range - a place where we have a sustainable staffing model. on the range of- staffing model. on the range of things— staffing model. on the range of things outside _ staffing model. on the range of things outside the _ staffing model. on the range of things outside the workforce i staffing model. on the range of. things outside the workforce plan, the prime — things outside the workforce plan, the prime minister— things outside the workforce plan, the prime minister has _ things outside the workforce plan, the prime minister has given- things outside the workforce plan, the prime minister has given a - the prime minister has given a pretty— the prime minister has given a pretty comprehensive - the prime minister has given a - pretty comprehensive run—through of many— pretty comprehensive run—through of many of— pretty comprehensive run—through of many of the — pretty comprehensive run—through of many of the things _ pretty comprehensive run—through of many of the things we _ pretty comprehensive run—through of many of the things we are _ pretty comprehensive run—through of many of the things we are doing, - many of the things we are doing, which _ many of the things we are doing, which is — many of the things we are doing, which is att— many of the things we are doing, which is all about _ many of the things we are doing, which is all about making - many of the things we are doing, which is all about making sure i many of the things we are doing, j which is all about making sure we are making — which is all about making sure we are making an— which is all about making sure we are making an impact, _ which is all about making sure we are making an impact, as - which is all about making sure we are making an impact, as we - which is all about making sure we i are making an impact, as we already are, are making an impact, as we already are. tre— are making an impact, as we already are. be it— are making an impact, as we already are. be it on— are making an impact, as we already are, be it on reducing _ are making an impact, as we already are, be it on reducing the _ are making an impact, as we already are, be it on reducing the number. are making an impact, as we already are, be it on reducing the number ofj are, be it on reducing the number of people _ are, be it on reducing the number of people waiting. _ are, be it on reducing the number of people waiting, eliminating - are, be it on reducing the number of| people waiting, eliminating two—year weights~ _ people waiting, eliminating two—year weights~ we — people waiting, eliminating two—year weights~ we are _ people waiting, eliminating two—year weights. we are on _ people waiting, eliminating two—year weights. we are on 65— people waiting, eliminating two—year weights. we are on 65 weeks- people waiting, eliminating two—year weights. we are on 65 weeks as - people waiting, eliminating two—year weights. we are on 65 weeks as the i weights. we are on 65 weeks as the next target — weights. we are on 65 weeks as the next target on — weights. we are on 65 weeks as the next target on that. _ weights. we are on 65 weeks as the next target on that. or— weights. we are on 65 weeks as the next target on that. or it _ weights. we are on 65 weeks as the next target on that. or it is - weights. we are on 65 weeks as the next target on that. or it is about i next target on that. or it is about the work— next target on that. or it is about the work to— next target on that. or it is about the work to improve _ next target on that. or it is about the work to improve ambulance l the work to improve ambulance response — the work to improve ambulance response times. _ the work to improve ambulance response times, a&e _ the work to improve ambulance response times, a&e response| the work to improve ambulance - response times, a&e response times, which _ response times, a&e response times, which have _ response times, a&e response times, which have improved _ response times, a&e response times, which have improved since _ response times, a&e response times, which have improved since winter. - which have improved since winter. and the _ which have improved since winter. and the work— which have improved since winter. and the work on _ which have improved since winter. and the work on increasing - which have improved since winter. and the work on increasing the - and the work on increasing the number— and the work on increasing the number of— and the work on increasing the number of people _ and the work on increasing the number of people getting - and the work on increasing the i number of people getting cancer checks. — number of people getting cancer checks, record _ number of people getting cancer checks, record levels, _ number of people getting cancer checks, record levels, leading i number of people getting cancerj checks, record levels, leading to record _ checks, record levels, leading to record numbers _ checks, record levels, leading to record numbers of _ checks, record levels, leading to record numbers of people - checks, record levels, leading to record numbers of people being i

record numbers of people being diagnosed — record numbers of people being diagnosed at _ record numbers of people being diagnosed at stage _ record numbers of people being diagnosed at stage one. - record numbers of people being i diagnosed at stage one. whether record numbers of people being - diagnosed at stage one. whether you are looking _ diagnosed at stage one. whether you are looking at — diagnosed at stage one. whether you are looking at those, _ diagnosed at stage one. whether you are looking at those, and _ diagnosed at stage one. whether you are looking at those, and in - diagnosed at stage one. whether you are looking at those, and in primary. are looking at those, and in primary care where — are looking at those, and in primary care where we've _ are looking at those, and in primary care where we've launched - are looking at those, and in primary care where we've launched access l care where we've launched access recovery— care where we've launched access recovery ptans. _ care where we've launched access recovery plans, which _ care where we've launched access recovery plans, which has - care where we've launched access recovery plans, which has a - care where we've launched access recovery plans, which has a rangej care where we've launched access . recovery plans, which has a range of things— recovery plans, which has a range of things to _ recovery plans, which has a range of things to support _ recovery plans, which has a range of things to support hard—working - things to support hard—working cotteagues _ things to support hard—working colleagues in _ things to support hard—working colleagues in primary- things to support hard—working colleagues in primary care. - things to support hard—workingj colleagues in primary care. the secretary — colleagues in primary care. the secretary of _ colleagues in primary care. the secretary of state _ colleagues in primary care. the secretary of state has - colleagues in primary care. the secretary of state has been - colleagues in primary care. the - secretary of state has been working closely _ secretary of state has been working closely with — secretary of state has been working closely with us. _ secretary of state has been working closely with us, looking _ secretary of state has been working closely with us, looking at - secretary of state has been working closely with us, looking at where i secretary of state has been working| closely with us, looking at where we can use _ closely with us, looking at where we can use technology— closely with us, looking at where we can use technology to _ closely with us, looking at where we can use technology to make - closely with us, looking at where we can use technology to make things i can use technology to make things better. _ can use technology to make things better. not — can use technology to make things better. notjust _ can use technology to make things better, notjust for— can use technology to make things better, not just for patients, - can use technology to make things better, not just for patients, but . better, notjust for patients, but better— better, notjust for patients, but better and — better, notjust for patients, but better and easier— better, notjust for patients, but better and easier for— better, notjust for patients, but better and easier for our- better, notjust for patients, but better and easier for our staff. l better, notjust for patients, but better and easier for our staff. i| better and easier for our staff. i would _ better and easier for our staff. i would very— better and easier for our staff. i would very much _ better and easier for our staff. i would very much hope - better and easier for our staff. i would very much hope that - better and easier for our staff. i- would very much hope that patients will already — would very much hope that patients will already see _ would very much hope that patients will already see the _ would very much hope that patients will already see the benefit - would very much hope that patients will already see the benefit of - would very much hope that patients will already see the benefit of the l will already see the benefit of the work we've — will already see the benefit of the work we've been _ will already see the benefit of the work we've been doing, _ will already see the benefit of the work we've been doing, but - will already see the benefit of the i work we've been doing, but certainly a lot work we've been doing, but certainly a tot more _ work we've been doing, but certainly a tot more to — work we've been doing, but certainly a lot more to come. _ work we've been doing, but certainly a lot more to come.— a lot more to come. can i 'ust emphasise i a lot more to come. can i 'ust emphasise something? 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or community centres, all the new ways, the nhs is doing more than it ever has done. of course we have a challenge that people are waiting longer than we'd like. we know why it is, we have a massive backlog over two years of covid. we always knew it would be the case. people should be reassured that because of the investment and hard work, and thousands of people every day are being seen he would not have otherwise been seen, and that is because of the extra funding, resources and innovations. that is why i'm good we will get there, and the trajectory is odd for those things. we have plans to keep the amount of activity the nhs and do. you mention surveys, and when we hear— you mention surveys, and when we hear what _ you mention surveys, and when we hear what peopte _ you mention surveys, and when we hear what people tell— you mention surveys, and when we hear what people tell us, _ you mention surveys, and when we hear what people tell us, they- you mention surveys, and when we hear what people tell us, they say. hear what people tell us, they say they firmty — hear what people tell us, they say they firmly believe _ hear what people tell us, they say they firmly believe in _ hear what people tell us, they say they firmly believe in the - they firmly believe in the principles— they firmly believe in the principles of—

they firmly believe in the principles of the - they firmly believe in the principles of the nhs - they firmly believe in the j principles of the nhs and they firmly believe in the - principles of the nhs and the nhs they firmly believe in the _ principles of the nhs and the nhs as it is set— principles of the nhs and the nhs as it is set up— principles of the nhs and the nhs as it is set up as — principles of the nhs and the nhs as it is set up as a — principles of the nhs and the nhs as it is set up as a delivery— principles of the nhs and the nhs as it is set up as a delivery model- principles of the nhs and the nhs as it is set up as a delivery model for. it is set up as a delivery model for health— it is set up as a delivery model for health care — it is set up as a delivery model for health care. they _ it is set up as a delivery model for health care. they tell— it is set up as a delivery model for health care. they tell us - it is set up as a delivery model for health care. they tell us when - it is set up as a delivery model fori health care. they tell us when they -et health care. they tell us when they get care _ health care. they tell us when they get care they — health care. they tell us when they get care they are _ health care. they tell us when they get care they are satisfied, - health care. they tell us when they get care they are satisfied, but - get care they are satisfied, but they— get care they are satisfied, but they are — get care they are satisfied, but they are frustrated _ get care they are satisfied, but they are frustrated at - get care they are satisfied, but they are frustrated at access i get care they are satisfied, butj they are frustrated at access of care. _ they are frustrated at access of care, whether— they are frustrated at access of care, whether in _ they are frustrated at access of care, whether in general- they are frustrated at access of i care, whether in general practice, dentistry. — care, whether in general practice, dentistry. and _ care, whether in general practice, dentistry, and getting _ care, whether in general practice, dentistry, and getting people - care, whether in general practice, dentistry, and getting people to. dentistry, and getting people to urgent — dentistry, and getting people to urgent emergency— dentistry, and getting people to urgent emergency care. - dentistry, and getting people to urgent emergency care. that. dentistry, and getting people to urgent emergency care. that is| dentistry, and getting people to- urgent emergency care. that is why that has— urgent emergency care. that is why that has been— urgent emergency care. that is why that has been the _ urgent emergency care. that is why that has been the focus _ urgent emergency care. that is why that has been the focus of- urgent emergency care. that is why that has been the focus of the - urgent emergency care. that is why| that has been the focus of the plans we have _ that has been the focus of the plans we have published _ that has been the focus of the plans we have published with _ that has been the focus of the plans we have published with the - we have published with the government— we have published with the government this _ we have published with the government this year. - we have published with the government this year. a i we have published with the - government this year. a specific example — government this year. a specific e>

surgery where they have implemented it, you see a practice _ surgery where they have implemented it, you see a practice that— surgery where they have implemented it, you see a practice that is— it, you see a practice that is giving — it, you see a practice that is giving access _ it, you see a practice that is giving access to _ it, you see a practice that is giving access to people - it, you see a practice that is giving access to people on i it, you see a practice that is. giving access to people on the it, you see a practice that is- giving access to people on the day, sorting _ giving access to people on the day, sorting the — giving access to people on the day, sorting the problems, _ giving access to people on the day, sorting the problems, able - giving access to people on the day, sorting the problems, able to- giving access to people on the day, sorting the problems, able to call. sorting the problems, able to call back automatically, _ sorting the problems, able to call back automatically, rather- sorting the problems, able to call back automatically, rather than . back automatically, rather than hanging — back automatically, rather than hanging on. _ back automatically, rather than hanging on, knowing _ back automatically, rather than hanging on, knowing how- back automatically, ratherthanj hanging on, knowing how many back automatically, rather than - hanging on, knowing how many people are waiting. _ hanging on, knowing how many people are waiting. so— hanging on, knowing how many people are waiting, so divert _ hanging on, knowing how many people are waiting, so divert staff— hanging on, knowing how many people are waiting, so divert staff to - hanging on, knowing how many people are waiting, so divert staff to deal - are waiting, so divert staff to deal with the _ are waiting, so divert staff to deal with the pressures. _ are waiting, so divert staff to deal with the pressures. they - are waiting, so divert staff to deal with the pressures. they have - are waiting, so divert staff to deal. with the pressures. they have their processes— with the pressures. they have their processes sorted _ with the pressures. they have their processes sorted out _ processes sorted out behind—the—scenes i processes sorted outi behind—the—scenes to processes sorted out - behind—the—scenes to ensure processes sorted out _ behind—the—scenes to ensure the patient _ behind—the—scenes to ensure the patient gets _ behind—the—scenes to ensure the patient gets the _ behind—the—scenes to ensure the patient gets the right _ behind—the—scenes to ensure the patient gets the right clinician, . patient gets the right clinician, maybe — patient gets the right clinician, maybe a — patient gets the right clinician, maybe a phone _ patient gets the right clinician, maybe a phone call, _ patient gets the right clinician, maybe a phone call, maybe . patient gets the right clinician, maybe a phone call, maybe a i maybe a phone call, maybe a face—to—face _ maybe a phone call, maybe a face—to—face appointment. maybe a phone call, maybe a face—to—face appointment at | maybe a phone call, maybe ai face—to—face appointment at a maybe a phone call, maybe a - 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to do. just on steve's point on primary care, which is exactly right, what are we doing? providing grants were thousands of gp

practices so they can switch to the system steve described which is so much betterfor system steve described which is so much better for patients. system steve described which is so much betterfor patients. we are saying sign up, we will give you a grant so you can install the cloud —based telephony system, give the staff training. we think it will make a difference to people's experience. the other things is we are changing how pharmacies are working, a pharmacy first model work this winter you can go to your pharmacist and for seven common ailments like sore throats and other things, the pharmacist can give you the medicines you need. that is an example of those doing something differently, as well as expanding more blood pressure checks. people can get access to health care quicker. these other things make a difference here and now on your

other question, i respect the court, but i fundamentally disagree with their conclusions. i believe, and their conclusions. i believe, and the lord chiefjustice made he agrees, the people of thema moscow have showed us that is no risk. rwanda is a safe country —— the people of rwanda. we will go to the supreme court. the policy of this government is simple. it is your government is simple. it is your government and it is not criminal gangs who should decide who comes here. it is a simple point of view, it is our country who should decide, not criminal gangs. i will do what

is necessary to make sure it happens. that is a matter for the courts. i know we are brimming out of time. the sun... taste courts. i know we are brimming out of time. the sun. . ._ of time. the sun... we know thousands — of time. the sun... we know thousands of _ of time. the sun... we know thousands of doctors - of time. the sun... we know| thousands of doctors offering of time. the sun... we know i thousands of doctors offering to australia — thousands of doctors offering to australia to take advantage of the lucrative — australia to take advantage of the lucrative system and good pay and conditions — lucrative system and good pay and conditions. after trading in the nhs for many— conditions. after trading in the nhs for many years, at the taxpayer's expense. — for many years, at the taxpayer's expense, do think there should be some _ expense, do think there should be some mandatory training to keep those _ some mandatory training to keep those doctors in the nhs for longer. 0n rwanda, what is your plan b for mps who— 0n rwanda, what is your plan b for mps who say the plan might not work question— mps who say the plan might not work question how those talks going with other countries if the plan doesn't come _ other countries if the plan doesn't come through? i other countries if the plan doesn't come through?— other countries if the plan doesn't come through? i will quickly do both of those. come through? i will quickly do both of those- on — come through? i will quickly do both of those. on your _ come through? i will quickly do both of those. on your first _ come through? i will quickly do both of those. on your first point, - come through? i will quickly do both of those. on your first point, i - of those. on your first point, i read those report and i was concerned. the health secretary was concerned. the health secretary was concerned. we went through it together and looked at the data, and it shows it is not as widespread

practice as i think people assume it is. if it was, we would look to do something, that is why with dentistry, where we think it is a potential issue, we are exploring the possibility of introducing a dental tie—in. when it comes to doctors, and steve may have better numbers, it was around 95% of people who after completing their training were still in the nhs. i think the scale of what is happening is not at the level people commonly assume it is, and for that reason we didn't think it was a right approach. if we think it was a right approach. if we think there is an issue, we are ready to take action, as you have seen with dentistry. on rwanda, i will repeat what i said, we are confident in our case. the high court agreed with us, the lord chief justice agreed. rwanda doesn't have

a returns agreement with other countries, and they have provided a set of safeguards to us about the treatment of refugees sent the, that we believe are strong. the high court and lord chiefjustice agreed, so we will seek permission to appeal to the supreme court, and we remain competent what we are doing is right and fair. there is nothing moral or compassion by allowing the current system to continue. people are needlessly dying as a make these crossings, exploited by criminal gangs. if you spend time with the people in the channel, picking people in the channel, picking people up, seeing the conditions, seeing what children are subjected to, would find it hard to maintain the system. this will be a compassionate country, we have welcomed five and a thousand people from all parts of the world over the last year —— 500,000. we will make

sure our generosity is not exploited by gangs. you talk about other deals, you can see some signs of progress with the cooperation with the french, but albania as well with our new approach to illegal immigrants means we have reduced numbers by 90% since the deal was signed. we have returned to thousand illegal migrants to albania, start to me shows deterrence work. they won't be allowed to stay if they come here illegally, and that is the policy we want to roll out. last one from the times... policy we want to roll out. last one from the times. . ._ policy we want to roll out. last one from the times... there we are, that is the prime — from the times... there we are, that is the prime minister _ from the times... there we are, that is the prime minister at _ from the times... there we are, that is the prime minister at the - from the times... there we are, that is the prime minister at the press . is the prime minister at the press conference. on the nhs 15 year plan, the prime minister called it the most ambitious transformation for the editors in its history. he said

the editors in its history. he said the proposals were about protecting the proposals were about protecting the institution and they would do it through training, retention and reform. he said the proposals would lead to more doctors, nurses and better care, but he admitted it would be quick or easy. the chief executive amanda prichard called it ambitious and bold, say doing nothing is not an option. she called and the boldest set of changes for the workforce ever, and the biggest expansion in history, with new routes into the profession. the medical director steven powis called it an historic day for the nhs, both for staff and patients. let's get some reaction, first from our health correspondent, he was listening. three words, train, retain and reform, but not a massive amount of detail. . . �* reform, but not a massive amount of detail. . , �* ., reform, but not a massive amount of detail. . , �* . . ., detail. there wasn't a huge amount, and --eole detail. there wasn't a huge amount, and people will— detail. there wasn't a huge amount, and people will be _ detail. there wasn't a huge amount, and people will be looking _ detail. there wasn't a huge amount, and people will be looking for - detail. there wasn't a huge amount, and people will be looking for more | and people will be looking for more details. i've had a quick skim of

the plan, available online, and found some more details. 15,000 more training places for doctors a year, more doctors training in mental health, primary health and in cancer. there will be more associative roles for doctor associates and nursing associates. the idea is they will free up some doctors and nurses to do the job they are most qualified to do. there are questions around regulation and how they will be regulated. they talked about international reliance on international staff. there is 25% of the staff in nhs coming from other countries, and that through this plan they want to reduce it to 10%. internationalstaff this plan they want to reduce it to 10%. international staff will always be welcome, they said. they talked about a pilot scheme, where doctors in training will do one year less of training, so we may see people on

the wards who had one less year of training, and this will be monitored by the general medical council. and the number of dentists are going up. let's move onto retention. they the over all ambition is to retain staff. they haven't given detail on how they will do it, but they say one of the ways is to improve the pension scheme so that retired people can come back easier part—time. there was nothing really on pay, and of course we've seen a lot of strikes in the nhs over the last year and doctor strikes are still ongoing. people will be asking about current pay conditions, and this was not mentioned. reform, the other area, and they talked about artificial intelligence, more virtual wards, ai in cancer screening. and ai doing more admin

tasks in gp practices. there will be lots of questions. how will it happen? loads of other things to look at, social care, how current conditions will improve. this plan is long—term. does it really look at the current problems within the nhs? that will be a big question. let’s that will be a big question. let's aet more that will be a big question. let's get more reaction _ that will be a big question. let's get more reaction from - that will be a big question. let's get more reaction from matthew taylor, the managing director of the nhs confederation, and his body represents the nhs trust. i wondered if i could get your initial reaction to this plan? it if i could get your initial reaction to this plan?— if i could get your initial reaction to this plan? it is a plan we been waitin: to this plan? it is a plan we been waiting for— to this plan? it is a plan we been waiting for for _ to this plan? it is a plan we been waiting for for many _ to this plan? it is a plan we been waiting for for many years, - to this plan? it is a plan we been waiting for for many years, my . waiting for for many years, my organisation has been calling for it for decades. it is a big day, an important day, and the plan has the level of ambition we would like to see. it is about numbers, big numbers that we are aiming for. we needed because we know the health

demands are going to grow, partly as a consequence of an ageing population. there is innovation, more attention should route into madison. opening up the number of pathways intojobs —— into madison. 50 we are using stuff more so we are using stuff more effectively. it is welcome, my members will be delighted. there are challenges. the plan is premised on improvements of 2% a year. that is double what we've achieved in the last 30 years. productivity is falling at the moment, connected to staff burn—out and the complexity of illnesses. also, as your correspondent said, this is a plan for 15 years, and we commend matt, but there are some typical short—term issues. this year will see a further reduction in the real

pay of nhs staff. you compare the pay of nhs staff. you compare the pay settlement with the rate of inflation. we have those ongoing disputes. abs. inflation. we have those ongoing disutes. �* . inflation. we have those ongoing disutes. . , ,, ., inflation. we have those ongoing disutes. . , ,, . ., disputes. a big issue, and part of the -a , disputes. a big issue, and part of the pay. is _ disputes. a big issue, and part of the pay, is retaining _ disputes. a big issue, and part of the pay, is retaining the - disputes. a big issue, and part of the pay, is retaining the star. - disputes. a big issue, and part of the pay, is retaining the star. do | the pay, is retaining the star. do you think this plan copes with the issue of people leaving to go to australia because they are getting better pay? it is australia because they are getting better -a ? , . . better pay? it is important that as an emphasis _ better pay? it is important that as an emphasis on _ better pay? it is important that as an emphasis on retention - better pay? it is important that as an emphasis on retention for- better pay? it is important that as an emphasis on retention for it. better pay? it is important that as an emphasis on retention for it is| an emphasis on retention for it is more effective for retaining them, they are already skilled. there are important things about flexible working, the quality of leadership around pensions. those will be important media term —— medium—term solutions. we have concerns about pat’- solutions. we have concerns about pay. i think it is important for

your viewers to understand that whilst this is a plan we welcome, that does set a good course for the way forward, we won't see much change in the next year also. the challenges of that ks, those staffing shortages, burnt out staff, thatis staffing shortages, burnt out staff, that is something we will have to work out. my leaders face the challenge of motivating staff and looking after staff today and tomorrow and the next day. matthew ta lor, tomorrow and the next day. matthew taylor. thank — tomorrow and the next day. matthew taylor. thank you _ tomorrow and the next day. matthew taylor, thank you very _ tomorrow and the next day. matthew taylor, thank you very much - tomorrow and the next day. matthew taylor, thank you very much for - taylor, thank you very much for joining us. we want to get some political reaction. daisy cooper is the mp percent olden is. your initial reaction? i the mp percent olden is. your initial reaction?— initial reaction? i think the country knows _ initial reaction? i think the country knows aconso - initial reaction? i think the | country knows aconso does initial reaction? i think the - country knows aconso does have initial reaction? i think the _ country knows aconso does have been driving the nhs into the ground for a long time. we could have had a long time ago if borisjohnson

wasn't against it. i hope it is a plan that goes on the right direction. after so many broken promises, we will have two c. the prime minister _ promises, we will have two c. the prime minister on the question, about how long it had taken, he said it was better to get it right than rush it. . �* . it was better to get it right than rush it. . �*, , , . rush it. that's because about the dela , rush it. that's because about the delay. there _ rush it. that's because about the delay, there was _ rush it. that's because about the delay, there was a _ rush it. that's because about the delay, there was a cross-party . delay, there was a cross—party movement that tried to get it into law so the government would review it in law every few years. boris johnson spent eight months whipping his mps against it, and we had the resignations and the infighting that then followed. that delay wasn't about consulting people, it was about consulting people, it was about the chaos and internal politics. about the chaos and internal olitics. �* , ., about the chaos and internal olitics. �* ,, . , _ politics. are you happy with the lan politics. are you happy with the plan now? _ politics. are you happy with the plan now? it — politics. are you happy with the plan now? it is— politics. are you happy with the plan now? it is a _ politics. are you happy with the plan now? it is a long _ politics. are you happy with the plan now? it is a long plan, - politics. are you happy with the plan now? it is a long plan, i've started to _ plan now? it is a long plan, i've started to go — plan now? it is a long plan, i've started to go through _ plan now? it is a long plan, i've started to go through it, - plan now? it is a long plan, i've started to go through it, but. plan now? it is a long plan, i've started to go through it, but it. plan now? it is a long plan, i've| started to go through it, but it is 150 pages. i started to go through it, but it is 150 pages. lam relieved started to go through it, but it is 150 pages. i am relieved the government has at least published something, but we need to go through the detail with a fine tooth comb.

there has to be recruitment, retention. the government has produced plans before, promised to recruit 6000 gps. they promise more hospitals, but in many places that won't happen. it is all well having a plan, but we need to see if it does stack up and whether it is the kind of thing which will turn the nhs around. kind of thing which will turn the nhs around-— kind of thing which will turn the nhs around. _ ., .,, nhs around. daisy cooper, we will let ou nhs around. daisy cooper, we will let you read _ nhs around. daisy cooper, we will let you read it. _ nhs around. daisy cooper, we will let you read it. i _ nhs around. daisy cooper, we will let you read it. i want _ nhs around. daisy cooper, we will let you read it. i want one - nhs around. daisy cooper, we will let you read it. i want one brief- let you read it. i want one brief word from one of our guests, alison your reaction now you've heard everything. your reaction now you've heard everything-— your reaction now you've heard eve hina. _, , , . everything. the plan is optimistic. the numbers _ everything. the plan is optimistic. the numbers will— everything. the plan is optimistic. the numbers will be _ everything. the plan is optimistic. the numbers will be challenging. l the numbers will be challenging. there isn't enough focus on retention. some of the assumptions in the plan, for example die looting skills mixed, are risky thank you

forjoining us, and thank you for joining us on this coverage of the 15 year plan for the nhs in england. i should mention, 15 year plan for the nhs in england. ishould mention, it 15 year plan for the nhs in england. i should mention, it is only england. there are other plans and proposals in scotland, wales and northern ireland, which you can find out about on the bbc news website. the prime minister called the plan the most ambitious transformation for nhs staffing innot history. he said the proposals were about protecting the national institution, and he said they would do it through the three words we heard him say a lot, training, retention and reform. he said the proposals would lead to more doctors, nurses and better care for all, more doctors, nurses and better care forall, but more doctors, nurses and better care for all, but he also admitted it would be quick or easy. the chief executive nhs england amanda pritchard called the plan ambitious and bold, saying doing nothing is an

option. she called and the boldest set of changes for the nhs workforce ever, and the biggest expansion in history with new routes into the profession. thank you joining us for �* routes into the history with new routes into the profession. thank you joining us for other coverage. we are going to join other coverage. we are going to join the bbc was margaret news at one the bbc was margaret news at one o'clock. you can get more reaction o'clock. you can get more reaction on the. on the. it aims to give the health service it aims to give the health service more than 300,000 more doctors, more than 300,000 more doctors, nurses and other key staff over the next few years. training, retention and reform, that is our plan to build the health care workforce of the future and secure the nhs for the long term. labour says the government has simply taken its ideas on dealing with the nhs staffing crisis. also this lunchtime:

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