hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. you're watching the context on bbc news. this is about sending a very powerful message that, despite everything that has happened, they are not beaten. they are still here. in fact, their belief, they are victorious. translation: we were sitting here peacefully. l it's collective punishment. why do they have to destroy the street and cut the water, the internet? what did we do? this is just the first step. it's by no means the last action that we will take. | we will do what we can, fight the terrorists. - they shall have no safe haven. welcome to the programme.

thousands of people have attended funerals after two days of clashes between palestinian fighters and israeli troops in thejenin refugee camp. joining me on the panel tonight is the former conservative cabinet minister justine the former conservative cabinet ministerjustine greening and hagar chemali, former us government adviser and now most of the political satire series 0h adviser and now most of the political satire series oh my world. we will say hello properly to both in a little bit. also tonight: in the uk, the ministry of defence has confirmed for the first time that special forces are at the centre of a war crimes inquiry. king charles has been presented with the scottish crown jewels, marking his coronation as part of national service of thanksgiving in st giles�* cathedral in edinburgh. and should governments be able to read people's messages? meta's mark zuckerberg is on a collision course with the uk government over that very question, as he continues plans to build super secure messaging into all his apps. but we start tonight

in the middle east, where thousands of people injenin in the occupied west bank have attended a funeral procession for 12 palestinians killed since monday during an israeli military operation. that operation has now finished. you can see the damage left behind. thousands of palestinians who left their homes started to go back. our international editor jeremy bowen sent this special report from inside thejenin refugee camp. and a warning, you might find some of the images in his piece distressing. with the israelis gone, the palestinians ofjenin were able to bury their dead. they processed out of the refugee camp and, on a finaljourney, passed the homes of the dead men and around their town. israel says it has closed thejenin terrorism factory. but armed men from the militias that control the camp were everywhere. in 48 hours, israeli forces did a lot of damage in what they call

a successful operation to find and destroy weapons. but someone's livelihood will have disappeared along with that van. and smashing the refugee camp's infrastructure, electricity, as well as water, alarmed the un. it looks more like collective punishment. "there's no solution," said aymen al saadi. "not until we get back what we lost in 1948. "we are refugees here. "our lands are there." he means in israel. in the camps are descendants of palestinians who fled or were forced out of what became israel in 1948. mourners brought the bodies back to the camp to be buried. palestinian leaders say their people have a right to defend themselves.

israel says the palestinian armed men here firing into the air to salute their dead are cowards, terrorists and the tools of iran. this is about sending a very powerful message that, despite everything that has happened, they are not beaten. they are still here. in fact, their belief, they are victorious. the conflict sucks in the generations and suffocates hope. at the cemetery, men got into the graves to lay them to rest. israel says this is no longer a protected place for terrorists. palestinian leaders say there are no terrorists here. the poor and angry injenin camp have a deeply rooted culture of resistance to israeli occupation of land palestinians want for a state.

israel's military hails its two days injenin as a professional, highly effective operation, but the key to a better future lies in politics and diplomacy, not anyone's bombs and bullets. jeremy bowen, bbc news, jenin. in the last hour or so, we have heard from the white house on this, the white house spokesperson saying it is critical to restore infrastructure to civilians. that is one of their messages coming out in the last hour or so. let's get the thoughts of our panel, justine greening and hagar chemali. hagar, should we start with you since we have had that us response? what is your response over the last two days? your response over the last two da 5? , your response over the last two da s? , ., ., ., ., days? listen, i have a lot of experience _ days? listen, i have a lot of experience in _ days? listen, i have a lot of experience in overseeing i days? listen, i have a lot of.

experience in overseeing these issues, working at the white house, and what is heart breaking to see if this is similar behaviour that we are seeing over and over and over again over the last 75 years. when you talk about refugees being in a camp nearly 75 years, or over 75 years, it shows you that something in the system is completely and utterly broken. the way the israeli government is responding, and this government is responding, and this government under db netanyahu, is especially harsh. in their history the is really government have responded to anything of militant action, weapons depots, terrorism or terrorist groups come in a very harsh crackdown. that is standard for them. and it used to work in the past. it is not working so well any more for on the palestinian side, we know for a fact that armed resistance does not work, we know this, and their example of this over and overagain, and this, and their example of this over and over again, and the fact is we also the terrorist groups like hamas and islamichhad and others have

taken residence in that refugee camp specifically. i am taken residence in that refugee camp specifically. iam not taken residence in that refugee camp specifically. i am not trained to justify the way the israeli government responded, when i saw the white house response, and the white house response did not talk very much about palestinian civilians at all, they focused on the right to israel's defence and that not to deprive me having been in government. —— i did not surprise me. it means the united states there were terrorist elements in his operations that the up israelis were... as part of these early operations. i were. .. as part of these early operations-— were... as part of these early operations.- you - were... as part of these early operations.- you have i were... as part of these early i operations.- you have the operations. i see. you have the ruthless israeli _ operations. i see. you have the ruthless israeli government, i operations. i see. you have the. ruthless israeli government, you have a palestinian authority... this will continue until there is a two state solution.— state solution. what is your reaction. — state solution. what is your reaction, justine _ state solution. what is your reaction, justine greening? j state solution. what is your l reaction, justine greening? it state solution. what is your - reaction, justine greening? it is tra . ic for reaction, justine greening? it is tragic for ordinary _ reaction, justine greening? it is tragic for ordinary palestinians, isn't _ tragic for ordinary palestinians, isn't it. — tragic for ordinary palestinians, isn't it, who are losing their livelihoods? we need a two state solution, — livelihoods? we need a two state solution, but the reality is we are going _ solution, but the reality is we are going nowhere on that at the moment,

either_ going nowhere on that at the moment, either diplomatically or politically. we have not been for years _ politically. we have not been for years. palestinian people are restricted with their own palestinian authority —— frustrated with _ palestinian authority —— frustrated with we _ palestinian authority —— frustrated with. we have a government in israel people _ with. we have a government in israel people think is the most extreme we have seen— people think is the most extreme we have seen in a long time, and day to day, it_ have seen in a long time, and day to day, it is_ have seen in a long time, and day to day, it is the — have seen in a long time, and day to day, it is the palestinian authority grappling — day, it is the palestinian authority grappling with the territory that essentially is dependent on the men —— humanitarian aid because there's so many— —— humanitarian aid because there's so many restrictions on people moving — so many restrictions on people moving in— so many restrictions on people moving in and out, products moving in and _ moving in and out, products moving in and out, — moving in and out, products moving in and out, there's really no way for them — in and out, there's really no way for them to— in and out, there's really no way for them to support themselves, and therefore there is is a dependence on the _ therefore there is is a dependence on the wider world. with covid, we have _ on the wider world. with covid, we have seen— on the wider world. with covid, we have seen the levels of humanitarian support _ have seen the levels of humanitarian support for— have seen the levels of humanitarian support for gaza, for the west bank, realty— support for gaza, for the west bank, really significant leaf fall, so you're — really significant leaf fall, so you're seeing general strife in a part of— you're seeing general strife in a part of the _ you're seeing general strife in a part of the world that was very much under— part of the world that was very much under pressure, just rising higher and higher~ — under pressure, just rising higher and higher. ivery under pressure, just rising higher and higher. i very much doubt that the actions — and higher. i very much doubt that the actions the israelis are taking now, _ the actions the israelis are taking now, howeverjustified they may feel it is, are _

now, howeverjustified they may feel it is, are going to anything that perhaps— it is, are going to anything that perhaps in— it is, are going to anything that perhaps in the longer—term just feed this resentment, that is already feeding — this resentment, that is already feeding what it sees as terrorism but obviously the palestinians, they feel they— but obviously the palestinians, they feel they have no other hope than to fight back _ feel they have no other hope than to fiuht back. , , . ., , ., fight back. very difficult to see a solution in _ fight back. very difficult to see a solution in the _ fight back. very difficult to see a solution in the near _ fight back. very difficult to see a solution in the near term. - fight back. very difficult to see a| solution in the near term. justin, hagar, thank you very much. standby. we will be back with you in a moment. here in the uk, the defence secretary ben wallace has confirmed for the first time that uk special forces are at the centre of an inquiry into alleged unlawful killings in afghanistan between 2010 and 2013. the ministry of defence had tried to restrict any mention of their suspected involvement but were challenged by bereaved family members and several media outlets, including the bbc. a long running investigation by the bbc had uncovered evidence indicating that an sas unit killed 5a people in suspicious circumstance between 2010 and 2011.

let's bring back our panel. justine greening, former conservative cabinet minister and hagar chemali, former us adviser and now host of the series 0h former us adviser and now host of the series oh my world. this is a really complicated but important issue. hagar, if we start with you, this idea that special forces in the uk, but many countries of course, had these elite units that operate in huge secrecy, for their own security and for the security of the countries that they are working for, but that does run up, then, against legal processes and you have to have some level of transparency when that happens. some level of transparency when that ha ens. . some level of transparency when that ha ens. , ., some level of transparency when that ha ens. . . ., some level of transparency when that ha ens. , ., ., ., some level of transparency when that hauens. , ., ., ., happens. yes, we are not a stranger here in the _ happens. yes, we are not a stranger here in the united _ happens. yes, we are not a stranger here in the united states _ happens. yes, we are not a stranger here in the united states to - happens. yes, we are not a stranger here in the united states to these i here in the united states to these issues as well for in 2016, the international criminal court had also tried to accuse us army officers of being complicit in war crimes in afghanistan, and the response from the united states was that such investigations were

unwarranted and unnecessary and that the reason for that is that inside the reason for that is that inside the united states, we have our own high standards and systems to investigate crimes, or inappropriate behaviour or terminal behaviour, by the military, and they go through a military court process, and so when i was looking at what is happening here with the uk of it reminded me a little bit of that. and to be fair what happens in the united states is that that story has somewhat died down a little bit. you have had officially reprimanded and then taken off the military service, and reprimanded in other ways, international, the court did not pursue the case further. —— and then the international, court did not. justine? . . . the international, court did not. justine? , , ., ., , justine? this is an important wiry. it is not normal _ justine? this is an important wiry. it is not normal for _ justine? this is an important wiry. it is not normal for the _ justine? this is an important wiry. it is not normal for the uk - it is not normal for the uk government to confirm the investigation. what will happen now

is this— investigation. what will happen now is this inquiry will happen in publio _ is this inquiry will happen in public. we will hear more details of the allegations against special forces. — the allegations against special forces, not specific battalions and specific _ forces, not specific battalions and specific soldiers, but clearly this is going — specific soldiers, but clearly this is going to be a very difficult inquiry. _ is going to be a very difficult inquiry. i_ is going to be a very difficult inquiry, i think, is going to be a very difficult inquiry, ithink, forthe uk to confront. _ inquiry, ithink, forthe uk to confront, and it is on the back of other— confront, and it is on the back of other similar processes that have happened, as we have heard, in the us, happened, as we have heard, in the us. in— happened, as we have heard, in the us. in places — happened, as we have heard, in the us, in places like australia more recently. — us, in places like australia more recently, but it is important to be -et recently, but it is important to be get to— recently, but it is important to be get to the — recently, but it is important to be get to the bottom of what really happened. and there is no way you canjustify— happened. and there is no way you canjustify unlawful happened. and there is no way you can justify unlawful killing of unarmed civilians, and we need to find out _ unarmed civilians, and we need to find out what actually happened. yeah. _ find out what actually happened. yeah. and — find out what actually happened. yeah, and as you rightly say, these are allegations at the moment. thank you, both, very much. back with you a little later. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines across the uk. a court has heard a man who arrived at windsor castle armed with a crossbow "to kill" the late queen was partly inspired by the star wars films.

jaswant singh chail, from hampshire, was arrested on christmas day 2021. he's admitted a charge under the treason act and is expected to be sentenced on thursday. a london court has heard evidence from one of the men claiming to have been sexually assaulted by kevin spacey. the alleged victim, who can't be named for legal reasons, said the hollywood actor grabbed him "like a cobra". the american actor is facing 12 charges, all of which he denies. fiona phillips has said she has been diagnosed with alzheimer's at the age of 62. the journalist and broadcaster discovered she had the disease a year ago after suffering months of brain fog and anxiety, she told the daily mirror. phillips, former host of itv breakfast show gmtv, said dementia had "decimated" her family after her mother, father and uncle also had the disease. you're live with bbc news.

here in the uk, king charles has been presented with the scottish crown jewels as part of a ceremony to celebrate his coronation. let's quickly run through what happened. the afternoon began with a people's procession which left edinburgh castle and made its way along the royal mile. a number of military units led the way and it aimed to represent all aspects of scottish life. chanting many people gathered ahead of the service to show their support for the king, but there was also a sizeable anti—monarchy protest and a number of people were arrested. a demonstration also took place outside the scottish parliament. king charles and queen camilla then arrived at st giles' cathedral for the service of thanksgiving and dedication. it was then onto the presentation of the honours of scotland — the sword of state, the sceptre and the crown, the oldest crown jewels in britain.

by the symbol of this crown, we pledge our loyalty in trusting that you reign as our king in the service of all your people. in receiving this crown, i so promise by god's help. there was then a prayer for the king before he made his way out of the cathedral, as a 21—gun salute was fired from edinburgh castle. and the day's events ended with an impressive fly—past by the raf�*s red arrows. nine jets were involved. the king and queen were watching from the palace of holyrood house. let's bring back our panel. justine, let's start with you. it is a complicated relationship between scotland and the monarchy, isn't it? somewhat, although i think that ceremony underlines literally the united _ ceremony underlines literally the united kingdom that we all live in, and i_ united kingdom that we all live in, and i think— united kingdom that we all live in, and i think it also reminds us that balmoral is — and i think it also reminds us that balmoral is really the home, in many

respects— balmoral is really the home, in many respects of— balmoral is really the home, in many respects of the royal family. the queen— respects of the royal family. the queen spent a huge amount of time there. _ queen spent a huge amount of time there. of— queen spent a huge amount of time there, of course she was there when she passed — there, of course she was there when she passed away, and we remember seeing _ she passed away, and we remember seeing her— she passed away, and we remember seeing her body being carried through— seeing her body being carried through the streets and brought down to london— through the streets and brought down to london for that state funeral, and so _ to london for that state funeral, and so there's a huge bond, actually. _ and so there's a huge bond, actually, for the royal family with scotland. — actually, for the royal family with scotland, and i think today's ceremony shows that, although as we saw at _ ceremony shows that, although as we saw at our— ceremony shows that, although as we saw at our own coronation, there will be _ saw at our own coronation, there will be those people who stand against — will be those people who stand against the monarchy.- will be those people who stand against the monarchy. hagar, from a slightly different _ against the monarchy. hagar, from a slightly different perspective, - against the monarchy. hagar, from a slightly different perspective, what l slightly different perspective, what do you make of it all?— do you make of it all? listen, it is so fascinating _ do you make of it all? listen, it is so fascinating from _ do you make of it all? listen, it is so fascinating from the _ do you make of it all? listen, it is so fascinating from the united - so fascinating from the united states watching, because on one hand, we are not used to these types of traditions at all, and a lot of americans have difficulty understanding or appreciating the role of the monarchy, and yet at the same time we have a fascia nation with it. we are possessed with the

crown on netflix. we... we viewed more with a lot of pomp and circumstance, and... but the thing that struck me personally was when we had the shift from queen elizabeth to king charles, many of us in the united statesjust elizabeth to king charles, many of us in the united states just kept wondering, what does this mean? we werejust as wondering, what does this mean? we were just as used to the stability as you all were, and to us it looks like a continuation of that stability, to be honest with you. interesting. hagar, justine, thank you very much for that. staying here in the uk, a service has been held at westminster abbey to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the national health service. the nhs is unique because of the way it's funded, paid for through general taxation, free of charge for all users, regardless of treatment. today's event is one of a series marking the milestone. 1,500 health workers were there. the ceremony included readings from the prime minister rishi sunak and the labour leader, sir keir starmer. but 75 years on, there are questions about its ability to survive

in its current form into the future. three leading think tanks say the nhs won't reach 100 years old unless there is significant investment. let's go back to the panel. justine, we will start with you. this is a huge question, we are talking about national institutions, and funding it, and its future. where do you think we are? ~ . ., , , ,, are? we will certainly see the nhs continue to — are? we will certainly see the nhs continue to perform. _ are? we will certainly see the nhs continue to perform. it _ are? we will certainly see the nhs continue to perform. it is - continue to perform. it is fundamentally part of the british life. fundamentally part of the british life if— fundamentally part of the british life. if you think back to the london _ life. if you think back to the london 2012 olympics opening ceremony, part of it was celebrating the creation of the nhs, so it is unique. — the creation of the nhs, so it is unique, and we all rely on it, but we have — unique, and we all rely on it, but we have to — unique, and we all rely on it, but we have to get to grips with is simple — we have to get to grips with is simple maths, that people are living

older. _ simple maths, that people are living older. they— simple maths, that people are living older, they are more likely to live longer. _ older, they are more likely to live longer. not — older, they are more likely to live longer, not more healthily necessarily, but with chronic disease. _ necessarily, but with chronic disease, whether it is heart disease. _ disease, whether it is heart disease, dementia, things that we cannot— disease, dementia, things that we cannot treat but we do need to take care of _ cannot treat but we do need to take care of i_ cannot treat but we do need to take care of. i naturally feel at seven out of _ care of. i naturally feel at seven out of every £10 the nhs spends —— if you _ out of every £10 the nhs spends —— if you look— out of every £10 the nhs spends —— if you look at... it tells you the challenge — if you look at... it tells you the challenge we have got on getting a -rip, challenge we have got on getting a grip. if— challenge we have got on getting a grip, if you like, on that growing nhs budget but is actually those are demographic changes all countries are grappling with. it is not so simple — are grappling with. it is not so simple if— are grappling with. it is not so simple if we move to a different system — simple if we move to a different system somehow, that taking care of those _ system somehow, that taking care of those horrible people get cheaper, and i_ those horrible people get cheaper, and i do _ those horrible people get cheaper, and i do think the answer lies in, no doubt. — and i do think the answer lies in, no doubt. a— and i do think the answer lies in, no doubt, a greater focus on public health— no doubt, a greater focus on public health and keeping people healthy, rather— health and keeping people healthy, rather than waiting for them, in a sense. _ rather than waiting for them, in a sense. to — rather than waiting for them, in a sense, to get ill and trying fix those problems. the final point to make _ those problems. the final point to make it _ those problems. the final point to make it probably is, i do a lot of work— make it probably is, i do a lot of work on — make it probably is, i do a lot of work on social mobility. we know that the _ work on social mobility. we know that the link between socioeconomic background, those social

determinants, the drive health outcomes. they are inextricably linked. — outcomes. they are inextricably linked, and therefore i think we have _ linked, and therefore i think we have to — linked, and therefore i think we have to understand is getting lives on track— have to understand is getting lives on track with good education, good housing. _ on track with good education, good housing, employment, is probably almost— housing, employment, is probably almost certainly one of the ways that we — almost certainly one of the ways that we can have a broadly healthier population, and that then also should — population, and that then also should enable us to have more cost effective _ should enable us to have more cost effective and hs.— effective and hs. justine, i will ask ou effective and hs. justine, i will ask you a _ effective and hs. justine, i will ask you a slighty _ effective and hs. justine, i will ask you a slighty more - effective and hs. justine, i will| ask you a slighty more personal question, your career, your time in government. you can totally ignore me and not answer if you want, but take us inside a cabinet meeting when issues about funding the nhs come up with. what was the tone of the conversation? were there big radical ideas? was there talk of ditching the model altogether or just keeping the model but massively trying something different? give us a flavour. i trying something different? give us a flavour. ~' ,, trying something different? give us a flavour. ,, ,, a, ,, , a flavour. i think steve barkley said it very _ a flavour. i think steve barkley said it very clearly _ a flavour. i think steve barkley said it very clearly today. - a flavour. i think steve barkley said it very clearly today. the i said it very clearly today. the discussion _ said it very clearly today. the discussion was much more about evolution— discussion was much more about evolution than revolution. there was

a genuine _ evolution than revolution. there was a genuine consciousness that the nhs is hugely— a genuine consciousness that the nhs is hugely important in peoples lives and therefore significant changes had to— and therefore significant changes had to be — and therefore significant changes had to be undertaken with real care. ithink— had to be undertaken with real care. i think as _ had to be undertaken with real care. i think as education secretary, sometimes i looked on with some envy even at _ sometimes i looked on with some envy even at the _ sometimes i looked on with some envy even at the way in which we prepared to always _ even at the way in which we prepared to always find the extra funding for the nhs. _ to always find the extra funding for the nhs, whereas we found it a lot harder in— the nhs, whereas we found it a lot harder in many respects for education, but i think the challenge for any— education, but i think the challenge for any government is a perspective on nhs _ for any government is a perspective on nhs funding that tends to be too short—term and a real, i think, a need _ short—term and a real, i think, a need for— short—term and a real, i think, a need for cross party working to get a longer—term funding settlement to id a longer—term funding settlement to go alongside that long—term workforce plan that was issued earlier— workforce plan that was issued earlier this week.— earlier this week. fascinating. thank you _ earlier this week. fascinating. thank you very _ earlier this week. fascinating. thank you very much - earlier this week. fascinating. thank you very much for - earlier this week. fascinating. | thank you very much for taking earlier this week. fascinating. - thank you very much for taking us inside the workings of government a little! hagar, just very, very briefly, what does the nhs, from the external point of view, mean to you? ijust want to external point of view, mean to you? i just want to say, i agree with a

lot of whatjustine said, and i was nodding because we deal with a lot of the same issues in the united states even though our health care system is complete different. i am not saying it is better, it is complete lead different. we are dealing with major deficit issues as you may know and the mass majority of our spending is on medicare, medicaid, our health, government health insurance, if you will, and health insurance, if you will, and health care system and social security or pension, and we are facing a crisis that most of our political eaters ignore because they are on a two—year system of being elected, and so that is not something they feel they need to fix —— political leaders. the problem is going to probably collapse in 90 years, is what is expected. we are likely here to face... our leaders have to get together to fix this, but we are likely going to face a massive cut to the three programmes ijust mentioned it.— ijust mentioned it. interesting. thanks very _ ijust mentioned it. interesting. thanks very much. _ ijust mentioned it. interesting. thanks very much. want - ijust mentioned it. interesting. thanks very much. want to - ijust mentioned it. interesting. | thanks very much. want to bring ijust mentioned it. interesting. - thanks very much. want to bring you this news.

the us secret service has confirmed a white substance that sparked a security alert at the white house was cocaine. the discovery in the west wing, which contains the oval office and other working areas for presidential aides and staff, led to a brief evacuation on sunday night. an investigation into how the illegal drug got into the building is now under way with secret service agents examining cctv footage and entrance logs. white house press secretary karinejean—pierre was asked about it during a briefing a short time ago. as you know, this is something that is the purview of the secret service. they are currently investigating what happened over the weekend, so i would have to refer you to the secret service on all of this but one thing that i can share that i will share a little bit more information, as you know, the president and their first lady and theirfamily were not president and their first lady and their family were not here this weekend and as you all reported on this and an also know they left on friday and and return just yesterday. where this was discovered is a heavily travelled area where many white house, west wing, i

should be even more specific, visitors, come through, this particular area. visitors, come through, this particulararea. ijust visitors, come through, this particular area. ijust don't have anything more to share. this is still under the segur service purview. we will allow the investigation to continue and let the secret service get to the bottom of this. . briefing in the last couple of hours or so. you know this part of the world very well for the what do you make of it? i world very well for the what do you make of it?— make of it? i know it very well. i worked at the _ make of it? i know it very well. i worked at the white _ make of it? i know it very well. i worked at the white house - make of it? i know it very well. i worked at the white house for i make of it? i know it very well. i - worked at the white house for three years. i cannot come to a judgment call, and so it is hard for me to speculate as to where this came from, but when i first saw this story i thought it was really crazy, because it is not a location where somebody could just drop a bag of cocaine or maybe they had cocaine on their fingers and the powder was left somewhere. it is very hard to envisage this. i'm not saying it is not accurate, clearly it is. i am really having a hard time understanding how this could have happened if he were not for a tour.

we used to give tours when i was at the white house, if you worked there, on the weekend. except for there, on the weekend. except for the few people that are working, it is usually your bringing in friends, family and so on to do these tours, and they are leaving their items or leaving things where the alleged, not alleged i wore this cocaine was found, and so my guess is that it was some of the on the outside, and thatis was some of the on the outside, and that is because, and i may be naive to this, we had a very high standard of drug testing and no drug use in government, but times have changed and maybe i'm wrong on that, but it shocked me, that is for sure. great a . ain to shocked me, that is for sure. great again to get _ shocked me, that is for sure. great again to get the — shocked me, that is for sure. great again to get the view _ shocked me, that is for sure. great again to get the view from - shocked me, that is for sure. great again to get the view from the - again to get the view from the inside, from the people who have beenin inside, from the people who have been in the room in the last few years. thank you, both. we will be back with our panel in the, what, just a couple of minutes' time. do stay with us. for the moment, i am lewis vaughanjones. this is bbc news.

hello there. wednesday on the whole has been a quieter day with some sunny spells. there have been a few scattered showers. so from time to time looking up in the sky, some threatening—looking shower clouds, as you can see from this weather watcher picture sent in from luce in kent. but tuesday's heavy, persistent rain moved off into the near continent. today has been a quieter story, as you can see from that satellite picture. a few scattered showers which will gradually fade through the night. we'll have some clearing skies and temperatures falling away. so it'll be a comfortable night for getting a good night's sleep. 8—11 degrees to greet us first thing on thursday morning. on the whole, thursday will continue to be dry, settled and sunny for most. but we have got this area of low pressure pushing in from the west. winds will strengthen ahead of it, gusts perhaps in excess of a0 miles an hour. and there will be some wetter weather moving towards northern ireland,

and gradually by the end of the afternoon into western fringes of scotland. potentially clouding over with a few isolated showers into wales and south—west england. best of the sunshine in the south—east with highs of 22 degrees. so that bodes well for wimbledon. there's plenty of sport to look out for at the moment. thursday, dry, warm, and humid on friday. could trigger some thunderstorms on saturday. and we've got another test, starting this time in headingley in leeds. a beautiful start, but there could be some sharp showers into the weekend. let's take a look at those in more detail. on thursday, the rain will be moving out of northern ireland and into the early hours of friday morning it'll be pushing through scotland. so we start off on friday morning with some showery outbreaks of rain to the north and west, but further south we'll once again see some clearer skies. but this frontal system will tend to lingerfor a time. it's going to tap in to some very warm and humid air as we move into friday. hence the reason we'll see this northwest, southeast divide. so some showery outbreaks of rain into northern ireland and western scotland. eastern scotland, england, wales dry, settled, sunny and increasingly hot and humid, 28—29 degrees can't be ruled out by the middle of the afternoon.

that runs the risk of more thunderstorms as we move into the weekend. hence the reason for those showers for both wimbledon and for headingley. those fronts will push in and move steadily north and east. so into the weekend, sunny spells and scattered showers and a little bit fresher.