coming up, should we be reconsidering our attitudes towards artificial intelligence and could we, in fact, benefit from it? we have been discussing tonight artificial intelligence, where it goes, how it should be regulated and whether after all the alarming headlines you will have read in recent months we should be reassessing the opportunities it offers. the times newspaper has an interview today with demis hassabis. he is the chief executive of google�*s deepmind. he has control of one of the most powerful ai units in the world within the company's offices in kings cross, central london. he says he can envisage a future where ai delivers breakthroughs in all sorts of areas — in energy storage, drug research, delivering solutions to diseases

we are still a long way from curing. we have been getting some reaction to all that from sir nigel shadbolt, researcher in al, professor at oxford university. he is the executive chair of the open data institute. health's a good example. drug discovery, prediction of disease, it's already performing at levels to analyse images from ct scans to x—rays. there's a whole range of ways in which ai, which is great at finding patterns, great at producing outcomes, great at finding and applying the rules that might help us build better solutions, can operate to our benefit. health's a good example, but so is climate change, another existential threat.

it will be the ai—driven models that help us understand how the climate is changing and what we can do to ameliorate those effects. they will be hugely consequential. and one could really reel off a whole range of area where the benefits really are there to see. they've been there for decades. we're seeing them more dramatically revealed with increases in computing power and advances in al. the tony blair institute wrote in a report last month of the uk's enterprise in this field is overly dependent on one single us—owned and funded entity, talking about google deepmind, which demis hassabis runs. there's quite clearly an incredible talent base here in the uk. how do we harness that? how do we ensure that other companies from other parts of the world come here to use that talent base? i think it's a broader ecosystem. i think the tradition of ai research in the uk goes back decades. all the way back, you can argue, to the founding, literally the founding father of computing which is alan turing, writing papers on the potential for machine intelligence back in the 19505.

you can see work in the �*60s, �*70s, �*80s, �*90s, into the 2000s where uk researchers from our universities and research labs and industrial companies have developed ai, much of which is right there, right now unremarked on on our systems, mobile phones, and logistics supply software that runs our retail, just—in—time systems, planning systems. there is many fruits of ai already there, and i think the uk is well positioned with its brilliant higher education system, with its pool of talent coming through. one of the challenges is to retain some of those companies, some of those start—ups we're seeing, some of those great new ideas within the uk, and i think that will be a challenge going forward to how we capitalise and maintain. but also working in the wider international context is a win also because we get access to a wider talent pool to think about goods. it's not all about sovereign power, it's also about working collaboratively together.

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that according to mark zuckerberg, the company's she. the app went live on apple and android app stores in 100 countries at midnight, though its release in europe has been delayed over data privacy concerns. threads is the biggest challenger yet to elon musk�*s, which has seen a series of potential competitors emerge, although this might be of a different magnitude altogether. note to bruce days late, an author and vice president formally at twitter and we ask and have a good if he thinks it is.

think the ongoing chaos at twitter, twitter users mad that they could not see tweets at the weekend because they were to use the phrase rate—limited. and so it's been rumoured that he's been mooting launching the product for a while. finally i think he just thought this is my moment and he pressed go on it today. do you think threads would have done this if life at twitter had not appeared so chaotic? anyone who played with the product today knows that it's definitely not the finished article. it's still a work in progress, but i suspect one of the things that he told his teams is that we've got a record of copying other ideas and making them better. instagram stories was inspired by snapchat stories. reels was inspired by tiktok, and i suspect he thinks we might be the best inventors in town but when it comes

to execution, we are pretty much the best around. there are lots of newcomers in this field. the difference here though of course is that instagram has 2 billion users already, they already have regulations and controls across instagram. so in scale and in type, this is an entirely different proposition. very much so. i worked for a long time at twitter, and one of the challenges we had was persuading new people to open accounts and then showing them that there was a been good for them. now with instagram having two billion users, to try and encourage 10 percent of those people to slide across and have a look gives him a business and if he can persuade 20 or 30%, then arguably he's bigger than twitter. so while it might seem like a gamble and some people have said that maybe it's an attempt to have a success after the relative failure of the metaverse, i suspect from the perspective they think this is what we do best. this decentralisation within social media and particularly around text conversational apps, how do you think that's going to change the social media landscape? that's one of the critical elements of this. he has built it in conjunction with a mastodon platform so people can use it, and one that's been said today is that people will be able

to bring the account and follows other platforms if they so choose. i think the critical thing is actually the consideration about do we want all of our social apps to be owned by the same companies? and i think that's a conversation that is just starting to be had in the us. the ftc is looking at that. raising questions about competition. i think that's more broad position. if found that whatsapp, instagram, threads as well are owned by one company, we might ask the question is it good to have all the eggs in one basket? the final critical question, bruce, do you tweet or do you thread? i been playing around with both today and am a big user of twitter, and like many i use it to connect with my passions or to follow breaking news. threads has not necessarily lived up to that, but it has felt like you

were in a bar when the door kept opening and more keep surging in. and so during the course of the day today, there were a whole lot of the people arriving and that i suspect it's a bit like a nightclub having a long line. having lots people arriving gives you that sense of excitement that potentially could propel you and give you some momentum to make this happen into a success. brian i have to ask you what is your thread count. i'm quite excited about all this because when i go on to threads but the same level as everybody else for us on twitter are miles behind in terms of followers. 0n miles behind in terms of followers. on a serious note, do you have any concern? let's suppose because instagram has followers, let's suppose that threads can becomes the so—called prominent app and takes pre—eminence. do you have any concerns about mark zuckerberg

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have in having conversations with the social media companies. wel have in having conversations with i the social media companies. we are still getting — the social media companies. we are still getting a — the social media companies. we are still getting a handle _ the social media companies. we are still getting a handle on— the social media companies. we are still getting a handle on technologyl still getting a handle on technology and how— still getting a handle on technology and how much— still getting a handle on technology and how much information - still getting a handle on technology and how much information we - still getting a handle on technology and how much information we are i and how much information we are putting _ and how much information we are putting out— and how much information we are putting out there _ and how much information we are putting out there for _ and how much information we are putting out there for the - and how much information we are putting out there for the whole i putting out there for the whole world, — putting out there for the whole world, but again _ putting out there for the whole world, but again as _ putting out there for the whole world, but again as we - putting out there for the whole world, but again as we talk- putting out there for the whole . world, but again as we talk about the al _ world, but again as we talk about the ai situation, _ world, but again as we talk about the ai situation, it _ world, but again as we talk about the ai situation, it really- world, but again as we talk about the ai situation, it really comes. the ai situation, it really comes down _ the ai situation, it really comes down to— the ai situation, it really comes down to these _ the ai situation, it really comes down to these bad _ the ai situation, it really comes down to these bad actors - the ai situation, it really comes down to these bad actors and l the ai situation, it really comes. down to these bad actors and how they use _ down to these bad actors and how they use it— down to these bad actors and how they use it and _ down to these bad actors and how they use it and that _ down to these bad actors and how they use it and that consolidationl they use it and that consolidation of power — they use it and that consolidation of power that _ they use it and that consolidation of power that we _ they use it and that consolidation of power that we are _ they use it and that consolidation of power that we are not - 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fail will be our threads because if it does succeed they want to be in it at the outset. irate it does succeed they want to be in it at the outset.— it does succeed they want to be in it at the outset. we also had some fairly bogus _ it at the outset. we also had some fairly bogus dumping _ it at the outset. we also had some fairly bogus dumping today - it at the outset. we also had some. fairly bogus dumping today between mr zuckerberg and elon musk and rather— mr zuckerberg and elon musk and rather than indulging in this rhetorical dialogue, rhetorical arm wrestling, — rhetorical dialogue, rhetorical arm wrestling, and under they took steps to tackle _ wrestling, and under they took steps to tackle abuse on social media, which _ to tackle abuse on social media, which is — to tackle abuse on social media, which is being widely blamed. we had an mp _ which is being widely blamed. we had an mp stand down for is empty and partly— an mp stand down for is empty and partly blame abuse on so many if that decision and also a prefer set of the _ that decision and also a prefer set of the arm — that decision and also a prefer set of the arm wrestling, they take action— of the arm wrestling, they take action on— of the arm wrestling, they take action on that a prophecy that we had describe there and i think they should _ had describe there and i think they should beat rather than harvesting data, _ should beat rather than harvesting data. try _ should beat rather than harvesting data, try to provide some degree of protection — data, try to provide some degree of protection. i see this fact they had today— protection. i see this fact they had today and i— protection. i see this fact they had today and i think is entirely bogus and contrived and entirely decide frankly— and contrived and entirely decide frankly by— and contrived and entirely decide frankly by both to attract attention. it did not attract mine. amen— attention. it did not attract mine. amen to — attention. it did not attract mine. amen to all— attention. it did not attract mine. amen to all of that. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today.

the governor of the bank of england has told the bbc that there is evidence some retailers are overcharging customers. andrew bailey says regulators must take measures to prevent retailers taking advantage of high inflation and pushing through unfair price hikes, adding to the cost of living crisis. the government has suffered another series of defeats in the house of lords over its plans to deport asylum seekers who arrive in the uk on small boats. peers backed five new amendments to the illegal migration bill. in total, the government was defeated 20 times during three days of debate. the bill will now go back to the commons. bosses of the four biggest banks have been meeting the financial watchdog today to discuss concerns that interest rates on savings accounts are too low and aren't increasing as quickly as those on mortgages. the bosses of lloyds, hsbc, natwest and barclays have denied accusations from mps that they've been profiteering.

you're live with bbc news. now it's time for the panel. we are squeezed for time and only couple of minutes but go first because it's 100 days couple of minutes but go first because it's100 days of hamza yousaf, successor not? it’s because it's100 days of hamza yousaf, successor not? it's been a lad, yousaf, successor not? it's been a glad. confident — yousaf, successor not? it's been a glad, confident morning _ yousaf, successor not? it's been a glad, confident morning but - yousaf, successor not? it's been a glad, confident morning but not i glad, confident morning but not quite. citing some gains, his supporters, citing re—engagement with business, resetting the independent strategy but he has had to dump some previous policies. for example shelving or deferring a new care system for scotland and above all he is got hanging over his head the continuing investigation and long—running investigation by the police into snp finances and during that will hundred days he had the site which he described as a difficult day of his predecessor

being arrested and questioned by police and of course released without charge later. that police and of course released without charge later.- police and of course released without charge later. that is some honeymoon- _ without charge later. that is some honeymoon- why _ without charge later. that is some honeymoon. why has _ without charge later. that is some honeymoon. why has koke - without charge later. that is some honeymoon. why has koke been l without charge later. that is some - honeymoon. why has koke been found in the white house? the honeymoon. why has koke been found in the white house?— in the white house? the rest of the american people — in the white house? the rest of the american people across _ in the white house? the rest of the american people across the - in the white house? the rest of the american people across the countryj american people across the country were celebrating our independence, no offence. — were celebrating our independence, no offence, somebody decided to go to the _ no offence, somebody decided to go to the white house and have the privilege — to the white house and have the privilege of doing so and they brought— privilege of doing so and they brought cocaine into the white house and the _ brought cocaine into the white house and the secret service cannot identify— and the secret service cannot identify that person. it's about you to submit— identify that person. it's about you to submit your social security number. _ to submit your social security number, have to hand over everything into a _ number, have to hand over everything into a cubby— number, have to hand over everything into a cubby that you are assigned to that _ into a cubby that you are assigned to that number, so i don't really understand _ to that number, so i don't really understand why someone would have the incredible disrespect to bring them _ the incredible disrespect to bring them into— the incredible disrespect to bring them into the white house for a tour but we _ them into the white house for a tour but we cannot figure out who it was. yes. _ but we cannot figure out who it was. yes. well. _ but we cannot figure out who it was. yes, well, clearly somebody was not where they will be served on the way in and i think we can well imagine they got rid of it before they were searched. at of time, thank you very much for your company this evening and we will of course the back same time tomorrow, thanks very much for watching, good night.

hello from the bbc sport centre. i'm hugh ferris. andy murray is locked in a late—night battle in the second round at wimbledon. and he's just won the second set to level at one—all. the first set went to a tie—break, won by the greek player by seven points to three. that set took almost an hour. the second even longer. this time though it went the two—time champion's way. 7—2 to murray. there is a cut off point when you can watch on bbc one but the cutoff point is at 11pm and watch it as far as it goes on this evening. if murray makes a third round he is the

third to do so so far and we have two notable successes today for two notable successes. choices, choices and with such a bumper schedule after recent weather delays, for the fans it was a case of where do you start? ~ ., . ., ., start? we here watch court three and down. how about _ start? we here watch court three and down. how about a _ start? we here watch court three and down. how about a great _ start? we here watch court three and down. how about a great british - down. how about a great british underdo: down. how about a great british underdog story. _ down. how about a great british underdog story. stockport's - down. how about a great british underdog story. stockport's leo j underdog story. stockport's leo brody against the fourth seed with no paper no contest but on a grass, guess what?— no paper no contest but on a grass, l guess what?— the guess what? game and first set! the world number— guess what? game and first set! the world number 142 _ guess what? game and first set! the world number 142 sees _ guess what? game and first set! the world number 142 sees the _ guess what? game and first set! the world number 142 sees the first - guess what? game and first set! the world number 142 sees the first set | world number 142 sees the first set but then the ruud awakening as a norwegian took the next two. but from there broady brilliantly came roaring back with inspired display. cheered on by his sister, former player naomi, it was quite simply the wind of his life.—

the wind of his life. game, set, match, broady! _ the wind of his life. game, set, match, broady! and _ the wind of his life. game, set, match, broady! and how- the wind of his life. game, set, match, broady! and how is - the wind of his life. game, set, j match, broady! and how is that the wind of his life. game, set, - match, broady! and how is that for a celebration? — match, broady! and how is that for a celebration? the _ match, broady! and how is that for a celebration? the 29-year-old - match, broady! and how is that for a celebration? the 29-year-old is - match, broady! and how is that for a l celebration? the 29-year-old is when celebration? the 29—year—old is when the stalwart british tennis and this victory almost priceless. i the stalwart british tennis and this victory almost priceless.— victory almost priceless. i said to m mum victory almost priceless. i said to my mum i've _ victory almost priceless. i said to my mum i've already _ victory almost priceless. i said to my mum i've already won - victory almost priceless. i said to | my mum i've already won 80,000 victory almost priceless. i said to - my mum i've already won 80,000 this week's— my mum i've already won 80,000 this weeks out _ my mum i've already won 80,000 this week's out. �* . week's out. laughter. there was _ week's out. laughter. there was also - week's out. laughter. there was also success | week's out. laughter. i there was also success for week's out. laughter. - there was also success for katie bolter. in her opening match him if a 20 hour rain delay and then a protester so how would she deal with victoria. . . protester so how would she deal with victoria._ rather - protester so how would she deal with victoria._ rather well, . victoria. outstanding! rather well, takin: a victoria. outstanding! rather well, taking a first _ victoria. outstanding! rather well, taking a first set _ victoria. outstanding! rather well, taking a first set 670 _ victoria. outstanding! rather well, taking a first set 670 and _ victoria. outstanding! rather well, taking a first set 670 and although | taking a first set 670 and although she lost a second, come the decider, she lost a second, come the decider, she held her nerve. through the third round for the second year running on a day of british delight. england will start day two of the third ashes test 195 runs behind after mark wood

and mitchell marsh made impressive entrances to the series at headingley. wood's five wickets and marsh's century were highlights of the opening day, as our correspondent joe wilson reports. mark would like very few england bowlers before them can bolt quickly but he cannot do it very often. this body does not allow him so england had been rationing him to the series. today he was unleashed to bow consistently at around 95 mph. it was too good for five australian matters and will be too good for most matters around the world. his contribution a key factor for austria to be bold out four to 63, but they got to that score thanks to mitchell marsh who came into the austrian team and did what he did best, strong belligerent and hard—hitting and helps by pork etching from england. march dropped on 12 especially costly. pat cummins was booed consistently as were the australian team in general and a boisterous but i think control data

from the crowd. but cummins can take it out on the england bettors when it comes into bow and he did that come helping reduce england 68—3 after all that with another thrilling ashes date, austria may well feel they came out on top. scotland have failed to qualify for this years men's 50 over world cup after a 4 wicket defeat by the netherlands in bulawayo achieved in exactly the manner required to make the tournament in india instead. brandon mcmullen's century helped scotland set the dutch a target of 278, which they needed to reach in under 44 overs to overtake scotland in the standings. after taking 5 wickets, bas de leede then hit a century of his own to edge his side closer to victory and with seven balls to spare logan van beek scored the run that sent the netherlands to their first world cup since 2011. stage 6 of the tour de france saw the yellowjersey change hands for the second day in a row. the leader at the start of the stage, jye hindley, of the stage, jai hindley, is down to third after losing time on a mountain stage in the pyrenees

which turned into a battle of the two race favourites. defending championjonas vingegaard is now in yellow, but he didn't win the stage, finishing behind two—time winner tadej pogacar, who moved up to 2nd after riding away from vingegaard to leave the dane with a lead of 25 seconds. and that's all the sport for now. hello there. thursday was a better day for play at wimbledon and for the start of the test at headingley. there was quite a lot of cloud generally, but we did see temperatures peaking at 23 degrees. however, into friday, we're tapping into some heat and humidity, and temperatures may well peak as high as 29 celsius, 84 fahrenheit. there was some cloud and rain around, though, and you can see quite clearly where i'm talking about on the satellite picture. this is a frontal system bringing some wet weather, fairly showery first thing friday morning across scotland and northern ireland. slowly brightening up into the afternoon. but with that southerly wind direction dragging in that warm, humid air as we go through the day, producing clear skies across england and wales,

temperatures will respond. highs of 29 celsius in one or two areas by the middle of the afternoon. so that means for the tennis at wimbledon, we could see temperatures as high as 27. it has the potential to be the best or the hottest day of this season's championship. and it'll be similar story as well for the men's ashes. thunderstorms perhaps threatening as we go through the weekend. as we go into friday evening, it will be a relatively quiet one. during the early hours of saturday, we've got this front pushing in from the south—west, but temperatures not falling very far. it's going to be a humid night, an uncomfortable nght for getting a good night's sleep, particularly in the south—east, as temperatures only as low as 18—19 celsius. and with that front continuing to move in from the south—west, bumping into that humid air, that has the potential to spark off some sharp, thundery downpours. they will drift their way steadily north and east,

so saturday will not be a wash—out by any means. that there could be some interruptions with some sharp showers. top temperatures as we go through saturday still on the warm side at 20—24 degrees, maybe 27 across parts of east anglia and the south—east. need to keep a close eye on sunday. there's a risk of some really sharp, thundery downpours moving up from france, butjust where they will appear is still subject to question so keep abreast of the forecast for the second half of the weekend. just to summarise then, out weekend is going to start off on a humid note. there will be some decent sunny spells around from time to time, but also the risk of some sharp, thundery downpours. take care.

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