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and some disagreement — in nato. when it comes to cluster ammunition, there's a between allies. a man who shot dead 26—year—old elle edwards at a pub on christmas eve — is jailed for 48 years. and — as tens of millions of users sign up for meta's new �*threads�* app, twitter considers legal action — claiming the company stole its trade secrets hello, i'm matthew amroliwala, welcome to verified live, three hours of breaking stories, and checking out the truth behind them.
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let's start with the war in ukraine — and nato�*s secretary general has admitted �*there is a difference between allies�* on whether to use cluster weapons in ukraine. it follows reports that washington, is expected to announce a new weapons package for kyiv — which will include cluster munitions. ukraine has been asking for them for months to boost its counter—offensive against russia but many countries around the world, ban the use of such weapons, because of the danger they pose to civilians. here's whatjens stoltenberg had to sayjust a few hours ago. it is for individual allies to make decisions on what type of weapons. all allies agree on the delivery of weapons and ammunition to ukraine and allies are delivering an unprecedented level of weapons to support ukraine. germany and many other allies are delivering different types of ammunition, weapons to ukraine. but when it comes to cluster ammunition, there is a difference between allies because some allies have signed the convention
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on cluster munitions and they don't have cluster munitions so of course there is no cluster munitions to provide to ukraine. other allies have not signed the convention and many of them or some of them have cluster munitions. so what are cluster munitions — and why are they so controversial? cluster munitions normally release large numbers of smaller bomblets, that can kill over a wide area, increasing the risk to civilians. bomblets that fail to explode, can pose a dangerfor years after a conflict ends. for that reason, they're banned by 120 countries. germany's foreign minister has already said, her country opposes the use of cluster munitions in ukraine. human rights watch says, both russian and ukrainian forces have used cluster munitions — killing civilians as well as opposing troops.
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i spoke to our washington correspondent, nomia iqbal, who told us more about a potential announcement. we are expecting that announcement at some point this afternoon by the us that it will be sending these cluster munitions as part of this latest package to ukraine. as you outlined there, it's incredibly controversial. more than 120 countries, including nato members, are against these munitions being sent. what's interesting, matthew, is that the us last use them in iraq from 2003—2006, and actually phase them out in 2016, so they've got this whole supply of these munitions ready to send it to ukraine. now, we understand that that rule was reversed under donald trump because there was also an agreement that these munitions would only be sent out if they have a low failure rate — also known as a dud rate.
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so, at one point, the failure rate was about 20%, then it was 6%, but we understand now it's, according to the us, 2%. we don't know the evidence for that. so, it's on that basis that they clearly feel that it's fine to send them, but as we've been hearing, it is controversial. you've got germany, as you mentioned there, that's condemned it, and that's probably that there are some cracks in the coalition on this one. tensions within the wider coalition but tell me about the domestic tensions, because they are democrats opposed to the use of cluster weapons, where do republican stands? there was because human rights watch, and say these pose a significant risk to civilians. an activist group trying to get the weapons band everywhere, they are
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still dormant in places like vietnam, so you have members of the democratic party against them as well. republicans, generally, have more or less backed president biden so far, a rare moment of bipartisanship in washington in providing ukraine what it needs. there are concerns about sending these admonitions in the same way, others are voicing concerns. we are still looking for communication. it is widely reported in the us that it is widely reported in the us that it is going to happen but we are with and on the pentagon to confirm they are going to send these cluster munitions to ukraine, ukraine have been asking for them since last year. been asking for them since last ear. . , been asking for them since last ear, ., , ., year. that is part of the wider acka . e year. that is part of the wider package the _ year. that is part of the wider package the americans - year. that is part of the wider package the americans are i year. that is part of the wider- package the americans are sending so as soon as that and is made in washington we will return to that story will stop.
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ukraine said if retained some territory since the start of the cons are attentive. lets get more from our correspondent andrew harding. explosion. ukrainian troops barely flinch as another russian shell hits the front lines close to bakhmut. for a month now, the counteroffensive has raged here. davai, davai! "come on, come on," the commander urges his men forwards. and they are making progress, but its slow work. too slow for some. i step on the russian mine. this soldier lost his foot to a mine a while back and has now recovered and is fighting again. but he's worried. yes, we need help. we need more artillery systems. we need more, more, more weapons. and without that? without that i think probably, we have. we will lose this game.
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you're going to lose? yes. the counteroffensive is certainly proving costly for ukraine. another casualty arrives at a field hospital on the southern front. oleh is just 19 years old. he was wounded in the back this morning by shrapnel from a mortar. despite the rising ukrainian casualty rate, despite scenes like this, it is important to remember that ukraine's counteroffensive is still in its very early stages. it's not appropriate yet to judge whether it's been a failure or a success. drone footage of russian forces near the southern city of kherson. ukraine has launched a surprise attack here, forcing these troops to retreat, probing russia's defences, as you might in a long game of chess.
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because this is a slow process, notjust on the front lines. here, a huge russian ammunition store near donetsk is targeted. it's part of ukraine's plan to weaken the enemy before the counteroffensive moves up another gear. "everyone is waiting for that," says army doctor yevgen. "we wait and we believe that everything will be fine. "we just need to be patient. " but that patience comes at a high price. 19—year—old oleh is taken away in a british ambulance, funded by private donors. he's stable, but his spine is damaged. he may never walk again. andrew harding, bbc news, ukraine.
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we will have more from the front lines in about 20 minutes here on our programme. some breaking news now — about the tragic death of an eight—year—old girl when a car crashed into a school in south—west london yesterday. the metropolitan police say the 46—year—old woman arrested at the scene on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving — has been bailed. the land rover defender involved in the crash in wimbledon has now been removed from the scene. two of those injured remain in a critical condition. police say they're not treating the incident as terror—related. our correspondent mark lobel is at the scene — and gave us this update on the latest police statement. first piece of news is that an eight —year—old girl remains in a life threatening condition and that her family has been informed and are being supported. that's another pupil at the school, another eight—year—old at the school now in a life threatening condition. separate to that, there is a woman in her forties who also remains
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in a critical condition. and we believe that that woman was either a parent or a carer of a child at this school celebrating the end of term yesterday, just over my shoulder on that grass over there yesterday. so that's an eight year old remaining in a life threatening condition and a woman in herforties in a critical condition. there was also speculation that a baby had been caught up in this crash through that part of the missing fence there when a land rover drove over itjust five to 10 on thursday morning. we now know that a seven month old girl is in hospital, but her condition is not said to be life threatening, and nor is the condition of any of the other pupils or people who have been taken to hospital as a result of that crash. but a seven—month——old girl, part of the group that are in hospital, though her condition is not life threatening. and of course, the eight year old girl who sadly died at the scene, we're told by the police yesterday, we're informed that her parents are being supported by family
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liaison officers, as you would expect, after such a devastating occurrence there. and then on the police investigation itself, we already knew that a woman in herforties had been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. we now know that woman to be 46 year old, a 46 year old woman, from wimbledon. and we're told that she was initially taken to hospital, though her injuries were not life threatening and she has now been bailed until late july. mark lobel in women than for us. now, the killing of 26—year—old elle edwards, as she celebrated outside a wirral pub on christmas eve, shocked millions of people up and down the uk, and it prompted a wave of sympathy for her bereaved family and friends. elle was an innocent bystander, caught in an attack by a gunman on a rival gang. today — he has been sentenced to life in prison — with a minimum term of 48 years. connor chapman, who's 23, was found guilty following a trial
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at liverpool crown court. his co—accused thomas waring was also sentenced today to nine years in prison for possession of a prohibited weapon and assisting an offender. well, here's how thejudge, mrjustice goose, summed up chapman's actions — in his sentencing remarks: what you did, connor chapman, to those six victims was as wicked as it was shocking. you murdered elle edwards, bringing an end to her young life. you attempted to murder jake duffy and kieran salkeld, causing them very serious injuries. you wounded both harry loughran and liam carr and you caused injury to nicholas speed. how did you do that? you obtained a submachine gun loaded with 12 bullets and prepared yourself to fire all of them at close range at six of them. your intention was to murder jake duffy and kieran salkeld, but you didn't care who else
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would be killed. that's why you fired all of the bullets at the group. i'm satisfied that you are a highly dangerous man. elle edwards father spoke after the sentencing and thanked the police. the amount of people involved in this investigation from day one has been remarkable, they did not give up. they were relentless in achieving the goal, which was to get justice for elle edwards and catch the killer. and fully, now, he has 48 years, and hopefully never sees christmas again. if i'm lucky enough to still be around for a long time, i will do my best to make sure he never comes out. i know there's a lot of people affected by this like
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the whole family behind me, things need to change. we've made a start with that and i think 48 years, if you think about picking up a gun now, you should think twice about it. again, iwould now, you should think twice about it. again, i would like to thank everyone, the whole family behind me, we have sat here for four weeks and had to go through this, something we will never forget. but it was all done for elle edwards and we achieve that today, thank you. that was tim edwards speaking eloquently after today's sentencing
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stop the amazon rain forest also known as the lungs of the planet is the largest in the world. the known as the lungs of the planet is the largest in the world.— the largest in the world. the new averment satellites _ the largest in the world. the new averment satellites data - the largest in the world. the new averment satellites data suggest | averment satellites data suggest that the first deforestation has fallen by 33.6% to this figure, 2649 m , that compares with the same period last year when president montanaro was in charge, 3988 km , the environment minister has welcomed the decline. translation: welcomed the decline. tuna/mom- welcomed the decline. translation: ~ ., ., , ., translation: we have a result that as i understand _ translation: we have a result that as i understand it _ translation: we have a result that as i understand it deserves _ translation: we have a result that as i understand it deserves to - translation: we have a result that as i understand it deserves to be - as i understand it deserves to be celebrated, there has been a 33 c
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percent reduction over a six—month period, it's encouraging for us because there is a declining trend that follows the goals set by the government. that follows the goals set by the government-— government. president lula has ledaed government. president lula has pledged that — government. president lula has pledged that and _ government. president lula has pledged that and deforestation | government. president lula has l pledged that and deforestation by 2030, bowing to reverse the policies of his predecessor, who promoted mining in the indigenous lands in the amazon. he faces a huge challenge. the area of rain forests still reported to be lost under his rule is around three times the size of new york city. while amazon deforestation has all in, it's not the case when it comes to fires which produce vast amount of fires. injune, socialise predicted 3075, the highest number since 2007. worldwide forest clearance is surgeon, globalforest worldwide forest clearance is surgeon, global forest watch estimates that 11 foot wide pictures of forests were lost every single minute in 2022, with brazil dominating that destruction. that was nicky shiller. lets stay with
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the claimant. let's stay with climate — and the world's average temperature has reached a new record high for the third time in a week. data analysed by a group of us scientists shows the global average temperature on thursday was 17.23 degrees c. that breaks the 17.01 degrees c record set on monday, which was then surpassed just a day later. scientists said the rising temperatures are being driven by human—induced climate change and the naturally—occurring weather pattern known as el nino. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news let's look at some of the other stories making headlines across the uk the deaths of four boys, who fell into a frozen lake near solihull were accidental and "a devastating tragedy", a coroner has concluded. eight—year—old finlay butler, and his six—year—old brother samuel — died, with their cousin 11—year—old thomas —
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and another 10—year—old boy, jackjohnson. they went on to the ice, after they fed ducks and skimmed stones. house prices fell for the third month in a row injune according to the mortgage lender, the halifax, while mortgage rates continue to rise. it said the annual fall of 2.6% was equal to around £7,500 being wiped off the average uk house price. and it's the end of the road for the humble ford fiesta. after nearly half a century, the final car is rolling off the manufacturing line in germany — marking an end of an era. the fiesta has been the most popular car ever sold in the uk. you're live with bbc news a man who killed a mother and her young children by setting their flat on fire has been jailed for life. jamie barrow will serve a minimum of 44 years behind bars. he poured petrol through the letterbox of the flat live now to jeremy ball,
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bbc east midlands social affairs correspondent. jeremy tell us more. usually emotional. _ jeremy tell us more. usually emotional, matthew, - jeremy tell us more. usually emotional, matthew, a - jeremy tell us more. usually emotional, matthew, a chill| jeremy tell us more. usually i emotional, matthew, a chill in jeremy tell us more. usually - emotional, matthew, a chill in trial with lots of tears in the public gallery as jamie barrow. tears for a young mother and her young daughters, were all overcome by smoke in theirfirst daughters, were all overcome by smoke in their first floor flat afterjamie barrow poured petros through the letterbox and set it to light in the middle of the night. he had been drinking heavily we heard, and we heard these three people didn't stand a chance. in and we heard these three people didn't stand a chance.— and we heard these three people didn't stand a chance. in terms of reaction after _ didn't stand a chance. in terms of reaction after that _ didn't stand a chance. in terms of reaction after that sentencing, i didn't stand a chance. in terms of. reaction after that sentencing, take us through it. reaction after that sentencing, take us through it— us through it. lots of action on the court steps. _ us through it. lots of action on the court steps. we — us through it. lots of action on the court steps, we had _ us through it. lots of action on the court steps, we had a _ us through it. lots of action on the court steps, we had a statement l us through it. lots of action on the . court steps, we had a statement from her husband who said he didn't hold any hatred forjamie barrow himself but hatred for the crime he
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committed and strong words from the judge as well who basically did not accept judge as well who basically did not accethamie barrow�*s judge as well who basically did not accept jamie barrow�*s account, judge as well who basically did not accethamie barrow�*s account, he always said he admitted starting the fire, he always thought it wasn't murder because he thought the family was away at a time. the judge thought it was a lie, he knew they were there and i sleep, he would've heard far too screaming after the fire started, he stood there and watch the fire burn and didn't do anything to help them.— watch the fire burn and didn't do anything to help them. thanks very much. a reporter _ anything to help them. thanks very much. a reporter at _ anything to help them. thanks very much. a reporter at the _ anything to help them. thanks very much. a reporter at the scene - anything to help them. thanks very much. a reporter at the scene in i much. a reporter at the scene in nottingham. both police say they have arrested a 17—year—old with a mass shooting that occurred, 28 people were injured at the block party in the city, the unnamed suspect is being charge on weapons offences.
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now, it's become the fastest growing app of all time. threads — the social media platform, launched by meta — to rival twitter yesterday — has already signed up tens of millions of users. many users say, threads is similar to twitter, and now twitter is threatening legal action — accusing meta, of stealing its trade secrets and intellectual property. so i just saw a statistic this morning that they've crossed 50 million downloads in a little over 24 hours, and some are calling it the fastest growing app in history, right, as sort of people are adopting and trying it out. the real question, though, is going to be, will it show any staying power? it's great that it's off to such a roaring start. in the coming days, weeks, months and quarters, will they be able to sustain that progress? i think that's what everybody�*s really trying to figure out. and the move from elon musk, i mean, how difficult is it going to be
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to prove that basic copying charge? i think very difficult, and good rule of thumb is, if you have a really strong legal case, you file a lawsuit, you don't send an angry letter. i think it's coming from a position of weakness. and i don't know too many people who put a lot of stock in that, in the angry letter that he sent out and then tweeted. so you don't think it's particularly serious? i do not think it's particularly serious. it's interesting, actually, when you get into the realm of intellectual property, there's a little known fact that facebook bought a whole bunch of us patents from aol back a number of years ago. and there's actually some consideration there that actually facebook could have a patent claim against twitter. i don't think there would be any normal situation where they would pursue that. but if elon musk pursues this and files, you know, you might actually see a counterclaim saying, no, wait a minute, facebook will say twitter, you're infringing my patents. and you're into years—long legal debate and generally the people who win in those are the lawyers, right? and it's a fascinating position to be in because for years people have had concerns about zuckerberg, many concerns recently about elon musk.
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well, it's a basic... it's quite a choice, isn't it now? it is. i mean, you've got two billionaires, right? and so now, you know, which billionaire do you want to support? and, you know, meta has had a really bad streak of pr. i mean, the news has not been good for meta for really a couple of years now. and so i'm sure they're delighted to get this real public success, you know, at the expense of twitter. and, of course, mark zuckerberg and elon musk are going back and forth about somehow they want to do a steel cage fighting match, which is kind of ridiculous in and of itself. so, you know, we find ourselves in really interesting territory. but one thing seems clear — it's very well timed. the launch of threads came at exactly the right time at a real weak spot for twitter and elon musk. a significant development in india in the last few hours, police they are arresting three real will workers over a deadly train crash that killed 292 people essman. it injured more than 1000, it was
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india's worse train crash in more than decades. the employees accused of culpable homicide, the police launch an investigation into criminal negligence. the accident happened when the passenger train hit a stationary friction what jumped off the tracks and hit another passenger train in the coming direction. many bodies claimed in the months after the accident took place, stored in a deepfreeze container. the train system carries around 25 million passengers a day. britney spears as she was been backhanded in the face by a security guard working for a well—known basket while player. she said she was trying to approach a player in a hotel and it was a traumatic experience. the sports start later spoke at the press conference about the incident. i didn't forget about it, but i
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thought was no big deal and this security person hit britney spears, i thought he was joking, it turns out it was britney spears, i didn't know because i didn't see herface. that reaction in a news conference they are a little earlier. news coming to us, breaking news that the former manchester united goalkeeper edwin vander sarr has had a lead around the brain, using hospital in the intensive care and is in a stable condition. once they say there's more information, his various team will present more details but were in use there concerning that former manchester united goalkeeper edwin vander sarr, having a bleed around the brain. we will keep an eye on that and bring you more in a moment or two.
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hello there. we had quite a mix where the picture for friday, certainly scotland and northern ireland. we started the day with rather grey and cloudy skies, like these. and the rain that we had that started on thursday lasted into the first part of friday morning, bringing about a third of a month's worth of rain in places. so it was really quite a wet spell of weather. even as that cleared, there were just one or two showers that followed through through the afternoon. but, generally, the weather at least did turn brighter. further south, across england, wales, different story. lots of sunshine, both morning and afternoon, and blue sunny skies like these in eastbourne were really common place. it was also a hot day across parts of eastern england. that's where we had the highest temperatures, with highs hitting the 30 degree mark in london's st james's park, but 28 there for hull and for cambridge as well. overnight tonight, we'll keep those dry weather conditions going for the vast majority of the uk. it's a night where it's going to be quite warm ,really, with temperatures for northern ireland, england and wales, about 18—20 degrees for our towns and cities. a bit fresher and more
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comfortable in scotland. tomorrow, well, it should be a fine and certainly start to the day, but showers get going quickly for northern ireland, wales and western england. they'll turn thundery through the morning and then into the afternoon those storms start to leap northwards into northern england and scotland as well, with some really torrential downpours possible. now, in the heaviest of those downpours, we could see around 50 millimetres of rain in the space ofjust a few hours. and that could bring some communities flash flooding, but there'll be others at the same time that completely dodge the rain and stay dry,with sunny weather all day. now, the highest temperature is probably again across eastern england, upper 20s here, but 27 or so for northern scotland, where it's going to be a warmer day overall compared with friday. at the wimbledon tennis championships, yes, you might well see a rain delay. there could be some showers around, but they could turn up just about any time. now, saturday, night—time thunderstorms work across northern england and scotland. lots of thunder and lightning
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in these still with some hefty downpours, and those storms still around for the first part of sunday clearing northwards out of the way. we might also see some storms come up from france to clipper eastern england. otherwise, a dry and sunny morning with showers developing from the south and west into the afternoon with a few thunderstorms around. overall, temperatures a little bit lower, generally low to mid 20s, and a fresher feel to the weather as well.
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