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life from london, this is bbc news. the us has confirmed it will send controversial cluster weapons to ukraine. we controversial cluster weapons to ukraine. ~ ,, controversial cluster weapons to ukraine. ~ ., . , ., controversial cluster weapons to ukraine. ., ., ukraine. we based our decision on ukraine's needs _ ukraine. we based our decision on ukraine's needs on _ ukraine. we based our decision on ukraine's needs on the _ ukraine. we based our decision on ukraine's needs on the round, - ukraine. we based our decision on ukraine's needs on the round, and ukraine. we based our decision on l ukraine's needs on the round, and it needs all artillery to sustain its operations. here, a man who shot dead 26—year—old elle edwards on christmas eve is jailed for 48 years. us police say no charges will be brought after britney spears alleged she was backhanded in the face by a security guard on wednesday. and andy murray's knocked out of wimbledon by a second—round defeat to stefan tsitsipas. as we were saying, it has now been confirmed by white house that america will send cluster bombs to
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ukraine. the white house news conference is still ongoing, but less prostrate to washington and speak to our correspondent nomia iqbal. —— let's cross straight. take us through what jake sullivan said. cross straight. take us through what jake sullivan said.— jake sullivan said. more or less concerned _ jake sullivan said. more or less concerned that _ jake sullivan said. more or less concerned that the _ jake sullivan said. more or less concerned that the us - jake sullivan said. more or less concerned that the us would i jake sullivan said. more or less i concerned that the us would send cluster munitions to ukraine, all of the pentagon get to confirm that. but you made the point that ukraine needs artillery and that's the core of the conflict, and it was critical for the us to supply ukraine with the supplies. the us always makes the supplies. the us always makes the point that they will not leave ukraine uncovered, they will not leave ukraine vulnerable. so, what was interesting was that essentially, his argument was that russia has been using these munitions already, and that's true. some of the ukrainians have been using turkish provided munitions, but they want the us ones to provide
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more munitions. in the point was the russians have been using them, and so the ukrainians therefore are justified in using them, and on the point of this will pose a risk to civilian harm because that's the fear, that's why human rights watch are against it, why more than 120 countries or get that. you made the point that ukraine would be using them to defend their territory, so therefore it would be in their interest to reduce the billion harm. the other point he made that was interesting, he talks about how they've been communicated with allies including those signatories to that treaty —— reducing civilian harm. it bans the use of these munitions. he said that even those people were on board, those countries allies who were against it, are on board, and he can't help but think that's perhaps how long the us is taken. they have made sure to swear everything with all the
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allies in order to get this over the line. . , . ., ., line. thanks very much for “oining us with the — line. thanks very much for “oining us with the latest, * line. thanks very much for “oining us with the latest, and _ line. thanks very much for “oining us with the latest, and we _ line. thanks very much forjoining us with the latest, and we will. us with the latest, and we will bring you that pentagon briefing we are expecting any time now. on the latest and secure more weapons from allies. we were with the atlantic council in turkey earlier. thanks for being patient and stay with us. we heard some interesting points in that news conference from the white house from jake sullivan. talking first of all about how the issue of ukraine's membership of nato will be discussed next week, but it's unlikely that it's a sign and seal deal. what did you make of that? first coming back to the point on
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the cluster munitions, i'm now sitting in 0desa, so in any moment, any missile could come and hit my house. ijust want any missile could come and hit my house. i just want to make any missile could come and hit my house. ijust want to make clear that it's not because ukraine wants to use cluster munitions, but because we don't have any other option than just defending our territory. coming to the need to membership, that's important because staying in this zone is absolutely for russia to attack ukraine. 0f for russia to attack ukraine. of course ukraine being... guarantees arrangement from this summit, we expect very clear road map on what will be the next steps and how ukraine can make it to nato. first of all, ukraine can make it to nato. first of all. please _ ukraine can make it to nato. first of all, please stay _ ukraine can make it to nato. first of all, please stay safe. _ ukraine can make it to nato. first of all, please stay safe. use to advise the ukrainian prime minister on foreign policy. if you are advising mr zelensky i have that
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meeting with president erdogan and out of that summit, what would you say is the although i would totally echo his main argument that the first priority for ukraine is to defend its territory to first priority for ukraine is to defend its territory to defend its lands in deoccupy _ defend its territory to defend its lands in deoccupy those - defend its territory to defend its i lands in deoccupy those territories were people are being killed by the russian forces. for that reason, starting from military and any other corporation with our closest partners, with the united states, the uk and turkey. i think it's important symbolically, showing that we have all nato members on board helping ukraine to stand against russian aggression. what helping ukraine to stand against russian aggression.— helping ukraine to stand against russian aggression. what might we exect russian aggression. what might we expect from — russian aggression. what might we expect from this _ russian aggression. what might we expect from this meeting _ russian aggression. what might we expect from this meeting between l russian aggression. what might we l expect from this meeting between mr the lansky and mr erdogan? we
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expect from this meeting between mr the lansky and mr erdogan?— the lansky and mr erdogan? we -- zelens . the lansky and mr erdogan? we -- zelensky- we _ the lansky and mr erdogan? we -- zelensky. we expect _ the lansky and mr erdogan? we -- zelensky. we expect the _ the lansky and mr erdogan? we -- zelensky. we expect the steps - the lansky and mr erdogan? we -- zelensky. we expect the steps that have been taken from the turkish republic, including the turkey streets for the passage of russian warships, military aid and supplies to ukraine, but also its important in providing help forfood to ukraine, but also its important in providing help for food security and for keeping the green deal alive. we know mid july it's going to expire, so it's crucially important not only for ukraine and turkey, but for the global south, that this goes on. find turkey, but for the global south, that this goes on.— turkey, but for the global south, that this goes on. and how crucial is turkey in _ that this goes on. and how crucial is turkey in terms _ that this goes on. and how crucial is turkey in terms of _ that this goes on. and how crucial is turkey in terms of trying to - is turkey in terms of trying to broker some kind of understanding? i hate to use the word peace deal. but something like that. to end the conflict. turkey has been a nation that sort of sat on the fence. it
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has ties with russia is now meeting president zelensky.— president zelensky. well, i would not use the _ president zelensky. well, i would not use the term _ president zelensky. well, i would not use the term peace _ president zelensky. well, i would not use the term peace deal- president zelensky. well, i would i not use the term peace deal because we are still not there. first, we have to make sure that this is a sustainable and just peace, but in terms of support to president the lansky�*s peace formula, we do have support from any issues, starting from prisoners and getting aborted children back like i mentioned before. more encouraging messages from turkey and russia is mainly in the economic energy spheres. i think these arejust not the economic energy spheres. i think these are just not exclude each other. these are 'ust not exclude each other. , ., , ._ these are 'ust not exclude each other. , ., , ., other. yevgeny, do stay safe, and thanks so much _ other. yevgeny, do stay safe, and thanks so much for— other. yevgeny, do stay safe, and thanks so much for your _ other. yevgeny, do stay safe, and
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thanks so much for your patience. other. yevgeny, do stay safe, and - thanks so much for your patience. we are expecting a statement on camera from the pentagon at the moment. it looks like an empty podium. we will bring you everything, which is expected on the cluster munitions that the us has confirmed. the white house has confirmed they will be sent to ukraine. we will go live to that as soon as it comes in, but right now, we can bring in darrell campbell of the arms control association. it's an american based, nonpartisan organisation. good to have you with us. what do you make of what we heard from the white house? we of what we heard from the white house? ~ , , ., house? we listen with interest to the rationale _ house? we listen with interest to the rationale expressed _ house? we listen with interest to the rationale expressed by - house? we listen with interest to i the rationale expressed by national security about transferring these controversial and nasty weapons to ukraine. i have to say the us campaign to ban cluster munitions and the armed forces are very disappointed with the decision. this is clearly whatever the rationale
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escalation of the carnage in ukraine, cluster munitions have been banned by the vast majority of the world's countries. 123 countries including the uk. most us and european allies are banning these weapons, even the us sought to avoid transferring or using cluster munitions with a failure rate of greater than 1%. wejust munitions with a failure rate of greater than 1%. we just heard jake sullivan say that some if not most of these weapons being transferred will exceed that target that the us set for itself in 2008. so, this is clearly going to increase the risk of civilian harm, more innocent ukrainians will be maimed and injured in the weeks and months and years ahead. there is already a lot of unexploded ordinance in the battlefield, but whatever we hear from the pentagon of the white house, this will increase the amount of unexploded ordinance.—
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house, this will increase the amount of unexploded ordinance. daryl, what we've been hearing _ of unexploded ordinance. daryl, what we've been hearing from _ of unexploded ordinance. daryl, what we've been hearing from jake - we've been hearing from jake sullivan is that these cluster bombs are already being used by russia. some human rights groups claim ukraine is using them. 0ut some human rights groups claim ukraine is using them. out of those arguments make a difference? there already being used. we arguments make a difference? there already being used.— already being used. we have condemned _ already being used. we have condemned russian - already being used. we have condemned russian use - already being used. we have condemned russian use of i already being used. we have - condemned russian use of cluster munitions in the war. united states have condemned russian use, ukraine has use cluster munitions in the war to a limited extent. two wrongs don't make a right. we are clearly going to be adding to the amount of unexploded ordinance in ukrainian territory. the main rationale of the white house is that the unitary munitions the us have supplied is running low. therefore we have to resort to using a weapon we have not used since 2003. so, i think this speaks to the fact that either
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washington and its allies did not anticipate this moment and it was a strategic mistake not to ramp up production of the munitions that ukraine has been supplied with. but we're disappointed with this decision and we're going to look to hear more about how the us will try to work with ukraine to restrict, reduce the amount of civilian harm that will occur. find reduce the amount of civilian harm that will occur.— that will occur. and we did hear from the white _ that will occur. and we did hear from the white house - that will occur. and we did hear from the white house that - that will occur. and we did hear from the white house that they that will occur. and we did hear - from the white house that they would do everything they could to minimise the risk to civilians. but what are your concerns around that? tiara your concerns around that? two thins. your concerns around that? two things. number _ your concerns around that? twr things. number one, it your concerns around that? twr things. numberone, it is your concerns around that? twr things. number one, it is going to be extremely, extremely difficult to abide by what you heard sullivan say ukraine is going to try to do, not to use these dangerous munitions in populated areas. the conflict has been flagged in highly populated areas. that is going to be very
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difficult to achieve. number two, sullivan says that the russian cluster munitions have a higher failure rate than the us. that may be true, but it is all relative. the rates we're going to be hearing about, many believe our lowball the failure rate in the field. the situation is different from testing that manufacturers might use to provide information that suggests a low failure rate. in reality, there will be higher amounts of unexploded ordinance on an arm and already dangerous situation.— ordinance on an arm and already dangerous situation. daryl kimball, thank ou dangerous situation. daryl kimball, thank you for showing _ dangerous situation. daryl kimball, thank you for showing us. - dangerous situation. daryl kimball, thank you for showing us. we - dangerous situation. daryl kimball, thank you for showing us. we are i thank you for showing us. we are expecting a briefing from the pentagon anytime now. shedding a bit more information about that white house announcement that the us is going to the sending cluster bombs
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ukraine. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. 1400 feet above sea level, the fish are being hunted to be counted. this stream had everything a young fish could want. it really is the lungs of the river. mark walker started fishing for salmon here on the x at the age of six. you can't guarantee to see a salmon on the axe any more. it's happening everywhere, in every major river in the country. salmon numbers are in catastrophic decline. he blames global warming and exploitation at sea, but at a local level, water quality, deteriorating weirs
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and fish passes and bad planning. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you're live with bbc news. here, the man convicted of murdering a young woman outside a pub on christmas eve has been sentenced to life in prison. elle edwards was an innocent bystander caught up in a gangland shooting on the wirral in merseyside last december. jayne mccubbin reports. she was young and beautiful with a whole life ahead. her 23—year—old killer, connor chapman, will be 71 before being considered for parole. thanks a lot, mate. thank you. there were hugs outside court for ellie's father, tim, as chapman was jailed. he crept up to the door of a busy pub on christmas eve and opened fire. gunfire elle was hit twice in the head. she was not his intended target.
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in this trial, we have all watched the cctv and sound recording of that shooting. it's utterly shocking. you carefully planned a revenge attack in gang rivalry. you had no thought at all for anyone else, least of all to innocent people. when me and the girls came here, i took a photograph of the two of them sitting on this wall. it's a beautiful photograph. well, for four months, we followed tim as he prepares for the trial. the picture of the year. and ali was my sister. he was right there with me. coming here to greece to retrace their steps has helped him focus on the joy they shared, not the rage he's now left with.
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you've not have any counselling. how do you come back to a place like this? i suppose this is like therapy. it'd be easierjust to lose yourself in the bottom of a bottle of whisky, i guess. i don't know. ..bottle of whisky every day. and that has its own problems. two weeks before the trial, tim revisits the places they went to, the restaurants they ate in — a reminder of life as it was. give me a minute. and as we float in the med, a text arrives from merseyside police. that text message from the police. that was to ask you to watch the cctv footage of ellie's murder. should never have to do that. you want to watch the video
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of your daughter getting murdered? once you've seen it, you're never going to unsee. how do you deal with her grieving process? well, i'm learning is that it comes in waves, and it'sjust. yeah, it can become to the point where it will break most people. you won't believe me. today, tim told the court they all now faced a life sentence — their only crime loving an amazing person. you give a little bit of your love mate and you got to three mate and you got two, three times back offer. and omas that. jay mccubbin, bbc news. the white house announced its sending cluster munitions. we can now cross over to the pentagon and a news briefing. over to the pentagon and a news briefinu. ~ ., ., . ., briefing. with the announcement of this 42nd presidential— briefing. with the announcement of this 42nd presidential draw - briefing. with the announcement of this 42nd presidential draw it - briefing. with the announcement of this 42nd presidential draw it out i this 42nd presidential draw it out package, the united states has committed more than $41.3 billion in
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military assistance since russia launched its brutal war against ukraine. more than 44.1 billion in military assistance since russia's initial invasion of ukraine back in 2014. some of the capability and today's $800 million package include - 155 today's $800 million package include — 155 mm rounds including dual—purpose improved conventional munitions or to victims, and 105 mm artillery rounds. an additional pair defence systems and high mobility rocket systems or himars. 0f rocket systems or himars. of additional bradley fighting decibels, personal theatres, aerial munitions, demolition munitions and systems for optical clearing, and various spare parks and operational equipment. with this announcement, we will be able to provide ukraine with hundreds of thousands of you additional ammunition immediately. this will ensure we can sustain our
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support for ukraine by bridging us to a point where we are producing sufficient are still munition on a monthly basis across the coalition. they recognise the complexities here, which is why want to quickly provide a few additional pieces of information on dp icm. first, russia has been using cluster munitions indiscriminately since the start of the war. by contrast, you create —— ukraine is seeking dpicm rounds in order to defend its territories. compared to reston munitions, the dpicm rounds will have an extremely low failure or double rate. the dpicm ammunition we are delivering to ukraine will consist only of those with a dud rate less than two points required for sent. —— 2.35%. during first year of the conflict alone, russia fired cluster munitions deployed from a range of
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weapon systems, likely spent tens of millions of submunitions or bomblets across ukraine. we are working to ukraine to run enema —— minimise the risk. ukraine government has offered us use of dpicm, including they will not use the rounds in civilian populated urban environments and they will record where they use these rounds. ukraine also has committed to post—conflict de—mining efforts to mitigate any potential harm to civilians. the united states has already invested more than $95 million and we will provide more support to help ukraine mitigate the impacts of cluster munition used by both sides in the conflict. this is critical, by providing dpicm ammunition, we will ensure the ukrainian military has sufficient ammunition for many months to come. in this period, the us, our allies and partners will continue to wrap up and partners will continue to wrap
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up our defence to support ukraine. for the past year and a half, president biden has been clear that we will support ukraine for as long as it takes. i want to commend the tireless efforts of the department, our allies and partners in delivering this level of assistance. throughout the kremlin's vicious war of choice, the ukrainian forces have leverage assistance and shown outstanding bravery and skill. ukraine's fight is a marathon, not a sprint. we will continue to provide ukraine with the urgent capabilities we need to meet the moment, as well that needs to keep itself secure for the long—term. 0n that needs to keep itself secure for the long—term. on a personal note, as i enter my last week as of defence for policy, i want to thank the hundreds of patriots and professionals across 0st policy. i believe they are the finest national security organisation in the business. forall that security organisation in the business. for all that they have done to support ukraine, strengthen our alliances and partnerships around the world and work tirelessly every day alongside her military and
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colleagues to keep america safe. i passed the mic back to dave and look forward to your questions. thank ou. a forward to your questions. thank yom a counle — forward to your questions. thank you. a couple of— forward to your questions. thank you. a couple of questions. - forward to your questions. thank you. a couple of questions. if. forward to your questions. thank| you. a couple of questions. if you could talk— you. a couple of questions. if you could talk about _ you. a couple of questions. if you could talk about the dud - you. a couple of questions. if you could talk about the dud rate, - you. a couple of questions. if you i could talk about the dud rate, there seems _ could talk about the dud rate, there seems to— could talk about the dud rate, there seems to 's— could talk about the dud rate, there seems to 's be _ could talk about the dud rate, there seems to 's be some _ could talk about the dud rate, there seems to 's be some questions - could talk about the dud rate, there seems to 's be some questions of. could talk about the dud rate, there . seems to 's be some questions of how the us— seems to 's be some questions of how the us knows— seems to 's be some questions of how the us knows these _ seems to 's be some questions of how the us knows these will— seems to 's be some questions of how the us knows these will have - seems to 's be some questions of how the us knows these will have such - seems to 's be some questions of how the us knows these will have such a i the us knows these will have such a low dud _ the us knows these will have such a low dud rate. — the us knows these will have such a low dud rate, and _ the us knows these will have such a low dud rate, and how— the us knows these will have such a low dud rate, and how you - the us knows these will have such a. low dud rate, and how you have been able to ensure — low dud rate, and how you have been able to ensure allies _ low dud rate, and how you have been able to ensure allies these _ low dud rate, and how you have been able to ensure allies these won't - able to ensure allies these won't cause _ able to ensure allies these won't cause excessive _ able to ensure allies these won't cause excessive civilian- able to ensure allies these won't cause excessive civilian harm. i cause excessive civilian harm. secondly, _ cause excessive civilian harm. secondly, as— cause excessive civilian harm. secondly, as the _ cause excessive civilian harm. secondly, as the primary - cause excessive civilian harm. i secondly, as the primary reason cause excessive civilian harm. - secondly, as the primary reason that the cluster— secondly, as the primary reason that the cluster munitions _ secondly, as the primary reason that the cluster munitions are _ secondly, as the primary reason that the cluster munitions are being - secondly, as the primary reason that the cluster munitions are being usedj the cluster munitions are being used now because — the cluster munitions are being used now because there _ the cluster munitions are being used now because there is _ the cluster munitions are being used now because there is so _ the cluster munitions are being used now because there is so much- the cluster munitions are being used now because there is so much strain| now because there is so much strain on the _ now because there is so much strain on the 155_ now because there is so much strain on the 155 mm — now because there is so much strain on the 155 mm pile? _ now because there is so much strain on the 155 mm pile?— on the 155 mm pile? those are important _ on the 155 mm pile? those are important questions. - on the 155 mm pile? those are important questions. we're i on the 155 mm pile? those are i important questions. we're aware on the 155 mm pile? those are - important questions. we're aware of reporting and i've seen some things in the press over the last 24 hours. it references various dod studies, which analyse the dud rates of older versions of dpicms. there are lots of different variants. the russians are... there are big differences.
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many of those studies that have been referenced, at least the ones i've seenin referenced, at least the ones i've seen in the press, were best on stage —— based on dpicms to demilitarised. we'll be providing our most modern dpicms with that rates under 2.35%. between 1998—2022 any. we're confident in those numbers. —— 2022. how they are used matters. that's one reason why as we deliberated, and look — this was a decision that took a while to come to — and all the concerns people have raised, what the reaction of allies and partners would be, what the reaction would be on the hill — all of these things were debated in the agency.
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but one thing in addition to the fact that we weren't providing cluster munitions above the dud rate i talked about was the assurances that we got from the ukrainian side. we got these assurances in writing. the secretary had an opportunity to discuss this with a minister yesterday, and he reiterated those assurances. as i said in my opening, those assurances are essentially that they would not use dpicms in urban areas populated by a civilian. —— civilians. there would be a careful accounting of where they use these weapons. that's going to matter for future de—mining efforts. i should also say while none of us should minimise this issue, this is an issue ukrainians have to grapple with regardless. if we had never made a decision on dpicm, the ukrainians would be de—mining... is going to be a generational effort because of the amount of personnel.
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this is an issue we have to tackle regardless. we're committed to helping the ukrainians do that. i would really point to two primary reasons. one is the urgency of the moment, which is the ukrainians are in the midst of their counteroffensive. it's been hard sledding because the russians had six months to dig in. those defensive bells that the russians have put in place in the east in the south are hard. they'd be hard for any military. south are hard. they'd be hard for any military-— any military. studio: you've _ any military. studio: you've been - any military. studio: you've been watching any military. studio: i you've been watching a any military. studio: _ you've been watching a pentagon briefing. there's going to be plenty of reaction to that. we will bring you some reaction in the next hour. do stay with us. you are watching bbc news. , , do stay with us. you are watching bbc news-— do stay with us. you are watching bbc news. , , ., ., ,, , bbc news. this is to make sure the ukrainians have the _ bbc news. this is to make sure the ukrainians have the confidence - bbc news. this is to make sure the| ukrainians have the confidence they have what they need, but frankly, that the russians... hello there. we had quite a mixed weather picture for friday,
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certainly for scotland and northern ireland. we started the day with rather grey and cloudy skies, like these. and the rain that we had that started on thursday lasted into the first part of friday morning, bringing about a third of a month's worth of rain in places, so it was really quite a wet spell of weather. even as that cleared, there were just one or two showers that followed through through the afternoon, but generally, the weather at least did turn brighter. further south across england, wales, different story — lots of sunshine, both morning and afternoon, and blue sunny skies like these in eastbourne were really commonplace. it was also a hot day across parts of eastern england. that's where we had the highest temperatures, with highs hitting the 30—degree mark in london's st james's park, but 28 there for hull and for cambridge as well. 0vernight tonight, we'll keep those dry weather conditions going for the vast majority of the uk. it's a night where, well, it's going to be quite warm, really, with temperatures for northern ireland, england and wales, about 18—20 degrees for our towns and cities. a bit fresher and more comfortable in scotland. tomorrow, well, it should be a fine and sunny start to the day, but showers get going quickly for northern ireland, wales and western england.
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they'll turn thundery through the morning, and then into the afternoon, those storms start to leap northwards into northern england and scotland as well, with some really torrential downpours possible. now, in the heaviest of those downpours, we could see around 50 millimetres of rain in the space ofjust a few hours, and that could bring some communities flash flooding. but there'll be others at the same time, they completely dodge the rain and stay dry, with sunny weather all day. now, the highest temperature is probably again acrosss probably again across eastern england — upper 20s here — but 27 or so for northern scotland, where it's going to be a warmer day overall compared with friday. at the wimbledon tennis championships, yes, you might well see a rain delay. championships, yes, there could be some showers around, but they could turn up just about any time. now, saturday, night—time thunderstorms work across northern england and scotland. lots of thunder and lightning in these still with some hefty downpours, and those storms still around for the first part of sunday, clearing northwards out of the way. might also see some storms come up from france to clipper eastern england.
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