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yeah, it doesn't feel good. disappointment then for andy murray on what was a disappointing day here for the home fans. it began with three british men left in the singles — it's ended with none. cameron norrie reached the semifinals last year, but 67" chris eubanks proved too much for him, while liam broady was unable to spring another upset, losing to denis shapovalov. for the british trio, a day without triumph. andy swiss, bbc news, wimbledon. a lovely sunny day. here's louise lear. it is starting to get a bit tricky. we like to say three fine days and a thunderstorm. we have only really had one this week. the thunderstorms are on their way. it was a hot day to temperature is widely mid to high
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20s but we saw 30 degrees in chertsey. i think we saw 30 as well in central london. that is going to lead to a pretty humid night to come. in fact, lead to a pretty humid night to come. infact, lows lead to a pretty humid night to come. in fact, lows for some into the high teens, perhaps 20 degrees in london first thing tomorrow morning. there will be a beautiful sunrise, some early morning sunshine but it won't last because a weather front will move in from the south—west and this could quite literally raining on our parade for tomorrow. some heavy, thundery downpours are expected. it is not a guarantee and very hit and miss some of these showers but if you catch them, they could be quite intense. look at the bright greens and yellows, that is the intensity of the rainfall. a of rain, large hail and thunder as they quickly sweep north and east. into the afternoon, a bit fresher to the west, still the risk of some showers, still some heat potentially into east anglia with 29 degrees here. some of the shower is moving out of the wimbledon area up towards the
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cricket at headingley, so there could be some interruption here. it will probably stay dry for most of the afternoon, so the far north—east of scotland, but rain is on its way. that frontal system will sweep its way steadily eastwards. there is the risk of some sharp showers into the far south—east corner first thing on sunday morning. we will have to keep a close eye on that as they potentially ease away, plenty of showers out towards wales, some heavy thundery into northern ireland as well. but on sunday, a little fresher and if you don't have no showers, it should be quite a pleasant day. that is it, have a weekend. thanks, louise. and that's bbc news at ten. there's more analysis of the day's main stories on newsnight with victoria which is just getting underway on bbc two. the news continues here on bbc one, as now it's time to join our colleagues across the nations and regions for the news where you are.
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just six for the match, but, boy, he loved seeing that one. trying to get this to a tie—break. the most energy he has got right now, wawrinka.
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he has missed it. a tie—break it is. in their previous matches they played eight. wawrinka has wonjust one. there are a lot of people in here who want him to win another one.
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i'm here with the catch up. tonight, potential changes to scottish at me and the swedish city hosting your vision 202a. first, dangerous muscle building drugs are being sold illegally, bbc investigation found. doctors were hearing problems of liver problems, secret family found they were in shops that sell body—building supplements. around the uk and online.
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the food standards agency says unauthorised foods being sold as a criminal offence. the bbc approached all the shops involved in the investigation, they came back and expressed confusion about the regulations. some other stories now... the man who killed 26—year—old harry edwards outside a pub on christmas eve has been jailed for life and will serve a minimum of 48 years in prison. connor chapman killed her when he opened fired with the machine gun. she was an innocent bystander. the scottish government wants to decriminalise all drugs for personal use. drugs such as heroin and cocaine wouldn't become legal, but users will be offered support and treatment rather than being prosecuted. time now to leave you with ten seconds of getting her groove on, because the for the swedish city, they are to host next year's derivation. they did it
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before in 1992 and 2013. you are all caught up. goodbye for now.
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could scraping the deepest part of the ocean help to save the planet — or could the environmental costs be too great? a un body is facing a deadline to decide rules around mining the seabed to extract materials said to be crucial for transitioning to green energy. but conversationists say it could risk an ecological disaster. we'll talk to a marine biologist and a man who wants to mine the ocean for electric car battery metals.
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in italy, parents in same—sex relationships are being told their names will be taken off their baby's birth certificates. why? plus banks, supermarkets, water, trains, energy. are regulators letting down consumers by failing to protect them from alleged profiteering 7 this woman has worked for the big three regulators. how does she explain it? we're going to open with a story which has had very little coverage in the uk, and we reckon you will want to know about it. that's because a deadline is looming for regulations on mining our deep oceans. companies are eager to scrape the sea bed for metals crucial to our transition to clean energy. take nickel — it's used in batteries in phones, laptops and electric vehicles. the international energy agency reckons 80m tonnes of it must be mined between now and 2040 if the world is to hit its climate targets.
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a number of countries have sponsored exploration licenses, including the uk. but some scientists and activists are warning the environmental impact of deep—sea mining could be catastrophic. back in 2021, a united nations body was given two years to finish drafting regulations for this deep sea mining. after that, theoretically, it could start without environmental regulation in place. the deadline is this sunday. the regulations aren't finished. so what happens now? in a moment we'll speak to a man who wants the mine the pacific ocean sea bed and a marine bioligst who defintely doesn't want that to happen. first, here's kate. deep in the ocean, there's treasure to be found. 4,000—6,000 metres down, beyond the reach of sunlight, on the flat, sediment—covered ocean floor, there are polymetallic modules
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formed over millions of years. these largely potato—sized rocks contain metals like cobalt, nickel, copper and manganese, all of which can be used to build batteries. and batteries, whether they're in electric cars or storing energy for when the wind doesn't blow, are a crucial part of plans to reach our emissions targets. there are thought to be billions of tonnes of polymetallic nodules in the sea, the largest deposit around what's known as the clarion—clipperton zone in the north pacific. the us geological survey estimated if we mined the ocean for metals in the same way we've extracted petroleum, 35—45% of demand could come from deep ocean mines by 2065. but what some have suggested could be a new gold rush has so far only ever seen exploratory projects. in the 19805 it was decided anything beyond the exclusive economic zone of individual nations, more than half the sea bed, should be the common heritage of mankind. the international seabed authority was created to set regulations
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governing how those resources could be exploited but it requires consensus across the member nations. more than two decades have passed without a final agreement on commercial mining. there is good reason for that. marine scientists have highlighted that dredging up these nodules, creating plumes of sediment, poses risks to a little understood habitat. there are animals thatjust couldn't exist anywhere else on earth, they are really special, really unusual. it's also the case that we are still discovering that environment because it's so hard to get to. so, you know, those animals down there, and the algae, may well be producing chemicals that we produce for medicine, for example. and if we destroy them before we even know what they are, then you lose all of that potential benefit. in an environment which changes very slowly, helen says any disturbance could take hundreds if not thousands of years to recover from. mining these metals on landward of course also cause environmental
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disturbance but countries including germany, france, spain and chile have all called for a pause or ban on deep sea mining. campaigners have released videos of exploratory mining spelling waste water full of sediment onto the ocean surface, alleging it has the potential to smother ocean life. the upcoming deadline for a decision was set by the tiny pacific islanders of nauru. in 2021, nauru gave notice that a company under their sponsorship intended to apply for mining approval and it triggered a clause giving authorities two years to set regulations for the practise, a deadline which expires on sunday. clearly we won't be able to have an agreement on a final tax for exploitation until sunday, now. so from monday onwards and for two weeks we are going to have the next council meeting at the international seabed authority where these member states will get together and among other topics also discuss what is going
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to happen in case an applicant submits a submission for an exploitation. decades of disagreement make the next steps are unclear but if no agreement is made, no rules formally set, authorities are required to start considering and provisionally approving mining work anyway. let's speak to marine biologist and conservationist tom "the blowfish" hird and gerard barrons, ceo and chairman of the metals company. tom, what worries you about this? i think it's been made fairly clear already in that report, we are talking about an environment that is more alien to us than the surface of the moon. and we arejust more alien to us than the surface of the moon. and we are just going more alien to us than the surface of the moon. and we arejust going down there with a litter picker and getting the occasional nodule here and there. we're about putting down mining equipment the size of combine harvesters if not larger that are
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indiscriminately chewing up the sea bed. i can't imagine in anyway that makes good sense in an environment thatis makes good sense in an environment that is poorly understood, poorly explored. but the one thing we do know about it is that it works on a timescale that we died. it works on thousands of years, if not tens of thousands of years, if not tens of thousands of years, if not tens of thousands of years. so trying to have that kind of impact in such a short period of time and expecting it to be forgotten and to have no major long—term effect, it's ridiculous. major long-term effect, it's ridiculous.— ridiculous. gerrard, it's ridiculous, _ ridiculous. gerrard, it's ridiculous, what - ridiculous. gerrard, it's ridiculous, what would | ridiculous. gerrard, it's. ridiculous, what would you ridiculous. gerrard, it's- ridiculous, what would you say to tom? ~ �* ., ., , .,, ridiculous, what would you say to tom? ~ �* ., . , .,, ., tom? well, we've got a problem on our hands. — tom? well, we've got a problem on our hands, right? _ tom? well, we've got a problem on our hands, right? we _ tom? well, we've got a problem on our hands, right? we all— tom? well, we've got a problem on our hands, right? we all decided . our hands, right? we all decided that we — our hands, right? we all decided that we need to transition away from petroleum _ that we need to transition away from petroleum products. we need to decarbonise. the biggest impact on our ocean— decarbonise. the biggest impact on our ocean is— decarbonise. the biggest impact on our ocean is going on already and
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acidification is the biggest risk to our oceans. so we have to rethink where _ our oceans. so we have to rethink where we — our oceans. so we have to rethink where we are going to find these metals _ where we are going to find these metals form. if you look at the international energy agency report, the world _ international energy agency report, the world bank's reports, they say that mining will increase up to 600% per ahhum _ that mining will increase up to 600% perannum until that mining will increase up to 600% per annum until 2040 and the problem is, where _ per annum until 2040 and the problem is, where are— per annum until 2040 and the problem is, where are we going to get these metals _ is, where are we going to get these metals from and what will be the impact _ metals from and what will be the impact of— metals from and what will be the impact of them? what we've said is that there _ impact of them? what we've said is that there is — impact of them? what we've said is that there is a lot that is known about— that there is a lot that is known about this — that there is a lot that is known about this part of the ocean. 0ur compahy— about this part of the ocean. our company has been very active for the last 12 _ company has been very active for the last 12 years — company has been very active for the last 12 years and other contractors have _ last 12 years and other contractors have ireeh— last 12 years and other contractors have been busy for the last 50 years understanding this ecosystem. the irasic— understanding this ecosystem. the basic premise is that surely we should — basic premise is that surely we should be _ basic premise is that surely we should be extracting metal from parts _ should be extracting metal from parts of— should be extracting metal from parts of the planet with the least amount — parts of the planet with the least amount of life, not the most life. let me _ amount of life, not the most life. let me go— amount of life, not the most life. let me go back to tom, sorry to read tirop. i want to hearfrom both of you. if not mining from the ocean
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sea bed, then where are we going to get this supply from? we need a massive supply. the get this supply from? we need a massive sopply-_ massive supply. the massive supply of rare earth — massive supply. the massive supply of rare earth metals, _ massive supply. the massive supply of rare earth metals, there - massive supply. the massive supply of rare earth metals, there is - massive supply. the massive supply of rare earth metals, there is a - massive supply. the massive supply of rare earth metals, there is a big i of rare earth metals, there is a big chat here about putting them in electric cars but i think anyone who's going for a commercial mining licence will happily take the money from people like samsung, apple, any other laptop or smartphone provider. we should be looking at the way those products are being used now and we should be considering how we can recycle, properly recycle the generations of smartphones, computers and batteries that currently are ending up in landfill. take to restore? studies have shown that after 30 i batteries _ take to restore? studies have shown that after 30 i batteries that - computers and batteries that currently are ending up in going to the deep ocean for these computers and batteries that currently the ending up in computers and batteries that currently the deep |g up in metals is scraping the bottom of the computers and batteries that currently the deep ocean 1 computers and batteries that currently the deep ocean for these going to the deep ocean for these metals is barrel literally and figuratively. have you got one of these nodules, the so—called seed potatoes? it looks like a lump of coal but that
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has taken a potentially millions of years to develop.— has taken a potentially millions of years to develop. yes. if you write, we don't know _ years to develop. yes. if you write, we don't know what _ years to develop. yes. if you write, we don't know what the environmental impact could be. —— if you wreck that. it could take thousands and thousands of years to restore it. let's take a step back. we do know a lot about _ let's take a step back. we do know a lot about the — let's take a step back. we do know a lot about the impacts and that's why we've _ lot about the impacts and that's why we've been— lot about the impacts and that's why we've been spending hundreds of millions— we've been spending hundreds of millions of dollars with the leading research _ millions of dollars with the leading research institutions around the world, — research institutions around the world, to — research institutions around the world, to baseline the environment. last year— world, to baseline the environment. last year for — world, to baseline the environment. last year for six months we were cotiectihg — last year for six months we were collecting nodules on a commercial scale _ collecting nodules on a commercial scale with— collecting nodules on a commercial scale with another boat full of scientists monitoring every impact. so we _ scientists monitoring every impact. so we know— scientists monitoring every impact. so we know what will happen to that environment. we don't go out there and tear— environment. we don't go out there and tear up— environment. we don't go out there and tear up the seafloor. 0ur robots — and tear up the seafloor. 0ur robots glide along picking up these rocks _ robots glide along picking up these rocks so _ robots glide along picking up these rocks so we can minimise the impact we can— rocks so we can minimise the impact we can have — rocks so we can minimise the impact we can have in this area. it starts to reorganise itself as soon as we've — to reorganise itself as soon as we've been there.— to reorganise itself as soon as we've been there. how long does it take to restore? _
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we've been there. how long does it take to restore? studies _ we've been there. how long does it take to restore? studies have - we've been there. how long does it. take to restore? studies have shown that after 30 — tom is laughing his head off. why? it is more classic human greed. i would take the idea of mining deep

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