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the weapon is banned by more than a hundred countries for their record of killing civilians. the dutch prime minister, meets the country's king to discuss the formation of a caretaker administration after the collapse of his coalition government. he will lead a caretaker administration until elections in november. the sun newspaper says a bbc presenter has been accused of paying a teenager tens of thousands of pounds for sexually explicit photographs, beginning when they were 17. it's understood that the bbc is looking into the allegations. and could pasta made from ground crickets be coming to a menu near you? following eu approval of the sale of insects for human consumption, a farm in northern italy hopes the superfood will prove popular. now on bbc news...
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let's catch up with our first guest on today's episode.— let's catch up with our first guest on today's episode. what takes you to sussex? — on today's episode. what takes you to sussex? well, _ on today's episode. what takes you to sussex? well, why _ on today's episode. what takes you to sussex? well, why not. - on today's episode. what takes you to sussex? well, why not. i - on today's episode. what takes you to sussex? well, why not. i like - on today's episode. what takes you to sussex? well, why not. i like to| to sussex? well, why not. i like to get up and down the uk. it is beautiful to go on our train line services these days. guessing that is a joke. guessing that is a joke. so, chris, you went to this keir starmer speech in kent today. yes. how do you match that with the opportunities to ensure that their
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dreams can be met? the bigger context here is that here at starmer has been talking about his missions. five missions around big policy areas like crime in the nhs and energy. today came numberfive, education and opportunities. and as he put it, kind of removing barriers to opportunity and removing what he described as the class ceiling. fine described as the class ceiling. one ofthe described as the class ceiling. one of the big policy announcements is this idea that alongside literacy and numeracy, you teach school pupils in england kind of how to express themselves better. to be a bit more confident. how do you feel about that and how are you going to do it? i about that and how are you going to do it? ~ , ., ., ., do it? i think it is a great idea and the debate _ do it? i think it is a great idea and the debate we _ do it? i think it is a great idea and the debate we have - do it? i think it is a great idea and the debate we have had l do it? i think it is a great idea - and the debate we have had around how people speak but actually it is about _ how people speak but actually it is about the — how people speak but actually it is about the confidence and i see that is incredibly important. i think often, — is incredibly important. i think often, it— is incredibly important. i think often, it is_ is incredibly important. i think often, it is something that is implied _ often, it is something that is implied when you are working class
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that, _ implied when you are working class that, you _ implied when you are working class that, you know, doctors, teachers, police, _ that, you know, doctors, teachers, police, those — that, you know, doctors, teachers, police, those are people who do things— police, those are people who do things to — police, those are people who do things to you rather than the people you can _ things to you rather than the people you can be — things to you rather than the people you can be. and it is the same in terms _ you can be. and it is the same in terms of— you can be. and it is the same in terms of how you express yourself in the confidence to go for those jobs. it is the confidence to go for those jobs. it is not _ the confidence to go for those jobs. it is not about changing, you know, peoples _ it is not about changing, you know, peoples accents are where they are from, _ peoples accents are where they are from. it— peoples accents are where they are from. it is— peoples accents are where they are from, it is about embracing the peopie — from, it is about embracing the people are all different and that, you know. — people are all different and that, you know, you can have your talents and confidence to express yourself as the _ and confidence to express yourself as the person that you are and i am as the person that you are and i am a betiever— as the person that you are and i am a believer in — as the person that you are and i am a believer in latin that is why i have _ a believer in latin that is why i have never_ a believer in latin that is why i have never change the way i am despite — have never change the way i am despite the levels of abuse i get sometimesjust because i speak with a mancunian accent. i'm proud of my past, _ a mancunian accent. i'm proud of my past, you _ a mancunian accent. i'm proud of my past, you know, people will say she is fake. _ past, you know, people will say she is fake. she — past, you know, people will say she is fake, she can't speak properly but actually, i'm clearly not stupid because _ but actually, i'm clearly not stupid because i— but actually, i'm clearly not stupid because i wouldn't be in the position— because i wouldn't be in the position i— because i wouldn't be in the position i am today and, you know, i was a _ position i am today and, you know, i was a vocational learner and this education — was a vocational learner and this education announcement and opportunities is about recognising that hot— opportunities is about recognising that not all people are the same and that not all people are the same and that we _ that not all people are the same and that we are — that not all people are the same and that we are different. you can express— that we are different. you can express yourself and be confident in
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the skin— express yourself and be confident in the skin that you are rain. do express yourself and be confident in the skin that you are rain.— the skin that you are rain. do you think we are _ the skin that you are rain. do you think we are a _ the skin that you are rain. do you think we are a snobby _ the skin that you are rain. do you think we are a snobby country? i the skin that you are rain. do you - think we are a snobby country? know, i don't. think we are a snobby country? know, i don't- some — think we are a snobby country? know, i don't. some of _ think we are a snobby country? know, i don't. some of the _ think we are a snobby country? know, i don't. some of the negative - i don't. some of the negative headlines, shall we say, that i've had from — headlines, shall we say, that i've had from certain now that is, the backlash— had from certain now that is, the backlash to — had from certain now that is, the backlash to that has been, you know, humbling, _ backlash to that has been, you know, humbling, to— backlash to that has been, you know, humbling, to be honest. if you remember prime minister's questions, dominic— remember prime minister's questions, dominic rab— remember prime minister's questions, dominic rab once challenge me for going _ dominic rab once challenge me for going to _ dominic rab once challenge me for going to the opera. i think you are suggesting — going to the opera. i think you are suggesting that people like me from my background shouldn't be at the opera _ my background shouldn't be at the opera and — my background shouldn't be at the opera and overwhelming support i got from people in the opera and communities from working class, middle _ communities from working class, middle class, upper—class awards, you know. — middle class, upper—class awards, you know, really humbling. because peopie _ you know, really humbling. because people don't have that snobbery but institutions and people in power sometimes generally have that and they have _ sometimes generally have that and they have stereotypes. we have unconscious bias and, you know, if we can't _ unconscious bias and, you know, if we can't accelerate people coming from different backgrounds and peopie — from different backgrounds and people can't see people who look and sound _ people can't see people who look and sound like _ people can't see people who look and sound like them than it does narrow i’eople's _ sound like them than it does narrow people's opportunities for careers and that— people's opportunities for careers and that is — people's opportunities for careers and that is why keira starmer is
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absolutely right to say we want to smash _ absolutely right to say we want to smash that class ceiling because i actually— smash that class ceiling because i actually think one of the biggest challenges i face is my class a accent — challenges i face is my class a accent and where i come from and may accident~ _ accent and where i come from and may accident i_ accent and where i come from and may accident~ ido— accent and where i come from and may accident. i do think that has an impact — accident. i do think that has an impact on _ accident. i do think that has an impact on me pretty much daily in my role. impact on me pretty much daily in my role it— impact on me pretty much daily in my role. , ., .,, ., impact on me pretty much daily in my role. , ., ., ., , role. it is the outdoor opera house. are ou role. it is the outdoor opera house. are you going _ role. it is the outdoor opera house. are you going this _ role. it is the outdoor opera house. are you going this summer. - role. it is the outdoor opera house. are you going this summer. i - role. it is the outdoor opera house. are you going this summer. i am i role. it is the outdoor opera house. i are you going this summer. i am not, no. oera are you going this summer. i am not, no- opera lasts _ are you going this summer. i am not, no. opera lasts way _ are you going this summer. i am not, no. opera lasts way too _ are you going this summer. i am not, no. opera lasts way too long - are you going this summer. i am not, no. opera lasts way too long for - are you going this summer. i am not, no. opera lasts way too long for me. | no. opera lasts way too long for me. you went— no. opera lasts way too long for me. you went and — no. opera lasts way too long for me. you went and didn't enjoy it? it no. opera lasts way too long for me. you went and didn't enjoy it?- you went and didn't en'oy it? it was treat to you went and didn't en'oy it? it was great to try — you went and didn't en'oy it? it was great to try it. h you went and didn't en'oy it? it was great to try t. t h you went and didn't en'oy it? it was great to try it. i loved _ you went and didn't enjoy it? it was great to try it. i loved it, _ you went and didn't enjoy it? it was great to try it. i loved it, it - you went and didn't enjoy it? it was great to try it. i loved it, it was - great to try it. i loved it, it was really— great to try it. i loved it, it was really good. i think everybody should — really good. i think everybody should go at this once but it is not my favourite genre. did should go at this once but it is not my favourite genre.— should go at this once but it is not my favourite genre. did you get an access code _ my favourite genre. did you get an access code to _ my favourite genre. did you get an access code to get _ my favourite genre. did you get an access code to get taylor - my favourite genre. did you get an access code to get taylor swift - access code to get taylor swift tickets are one of the millions who have been disappointed in the last 24 have been disappointed in the last 2a hours. i have been disappointed in the last 24 hours. ., �* �* have been disappointed in the last 24hours. ., �* �* , , 24 hours. i haven't. i'm pretty tutted 24 hours. i haven't. i'm pretty gutted and — 24 hours. i haven't. i'm pretty gutted and my _ 24 hours. i haven't. i'm pretty gutted and my teenage - 24 hours. i haven't. i'm pretty gutted and my teenage years| 24 hours. i haven't. i'm pretty. gutted and my teenage years are probably— gutted and my teenage years are probably more gutted than i am about that but. _ probably more gutted than i am about that but, you know, ticket prices these _ that but, you know, ticket prices these days, talking about class, most _
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these days, talking about class, most people from working—class backgrounds can't avoid ticket prices — backgrounds can't avoid ticket prices these days. they go for crazy prices _ prices these days. they go for crazy prices is _ prices these days. they go for crazy trices. , ., ,., prices. is that something the government _ prices. is that something the government should - prices. is that something the government should be - prices. is that something the government should be doing| prices. is that something the _ government should be doing something about? would a labour government top ticket prices? the about? would a labour government top ticket prices?— ticket prices? the artists themselves _ ticket prices? the artists themselves are - ticket prices? the artists themselves are bitterly i ticket prices? the artists - themselves are bitterly frustrated about _ themselves are bitterly frustrated about trying to keep the ticket price _ about trying to keep the ticket price is— about trying to keep the ticket price is fair and then obviously, they— price is fair and then obviously, they are — price is fair and then obviously, they are bought up by, you know, these _ they are bought up by, you know, these companies and to get people that buy— these companies and to get people that buy them and then they sell them _ that buy them and then they sell them again for two, three, four times— them again for two, three, four times the — them again for two, three, four times the price of the take it that the artist — times the price of the take it that the artist was asking for sol times the price of the take it that the artist was asking for so i do think. _ the artist was asking for so i do think. to — the artist was asking for so i do think, to be fair, the artist try their— think, to be fair, the artist try their best _ think, to be fair, the artist try their best to make the price is fair and reasonable but unfortunately, when _ and reasonable but unfortunately, when they are all sold out within an hour and _ when they are all sold out within an hour and then you see them and now that's— hour and then you see them and now that's 43. _ hour and then you see them and now that's 43, four times the price, it prices _ that's 43, four times the price, it prices out — that's 43, four times the price, it prices out most people from being able to— prices out most people from being able to go — prices out most people from being able to go. i prices out most people from being able to to. ., �* ,, ., prices out most people from being able to to. ., �* ~' ., ,, able to go. i don't know if you remember — able to go. i don't know if you remember the _ able to go. i don't know if you remember the last _ able to go. i don't know if you remember the last time - able to go. i don't know if you remember the last time you l able to go. i don't know if you - remember the last time you were here but you are waiting to get a train and we managed to now be just
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but you are waiting to get a train and we managed to now bejust in time. i and we managed to now be 'ust in time. ., and we managed to now be 'ust in time. ~ ., , and we managed to now be 'ust in time. ~ .,, ,, ., �*, time. i think it was simon's by-election- _ time. i think it was simon's by-election. i— time. i think it was simon's by-election. i got - time. i think it was simon's by-election. i got the - time. i think it was simon's| by-election. i got the train, time. i think it was simon's i by-election. i got the train, by time. i think it was simon's - by-election. i got the train, by the by—election. i got the train, by the way, _ by—election. i got the train, by the way, thank— by—election. i got the train, by the way, thank you. by-election. i got the train, by the way. thank you-— by-election. i got the train, by the way, thank you. glad within the view standint way, thank you. glad within the view standing on — way, thank you. glad within the view standing on the _ way, thank you. glad within the view standing on the train _ way, thank you. glad within the view standing on the train platform. - standing on the train platform. anyway, one of the clips from that show went a little bit viable and it was you with this bit of advice for kier starmer. i was you with this bit of advice for kier starmer.— was you with this bit of advice for kier starmer. i do think that some of his conditioning _ kier starmer. i do think that some of his conditioning as, _ kier starmer. i do think that some of his conditioning as, you - kier starmer. i do think that some of his conditioning as, you know, l of his conditioning as, you know, when _ of his conditioning as, you know, when he — of his conditioning as, you know, when he was a lawyer and things like thatjust _ when he was a lawyer and things like thatjust makes him like sometimes he takes _ thatjust makes him like sometimes he takes the emotion out of it and he takes the emotion out of it and he puts— he takes the emotion out of it and he puts the — he takes the emotion out of it and he puts the sort of strategic staff then and — he puts the sort of strategic staff then and i— he puts the sort of strategic staff then and i think no, put some more welly— then and i think no, put some more welly into _ then and i think no, put some more welly into it — then and i think no, put some more welly into it. i'd might as he found his welly, — welly into it. i'd might as he found his welly, do you think? i think so. you know. — his welly, do you think? i think so. you know. i— his welly, do you think? i think so. you know, i have reflected on that and there — you know, i have reflected on that and there are so many people who try to change _ and there are so many people who try to change the way i am and a little bit like _ to change the way i am and a little bit like theirs or if you just did that, — bit like theirs or if you just did that, and _ bit like theirs or if you just did that, and i_ bit like theirs or if you just did that, and i am who i am and i e>
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wants _ involved in politics and what he wants to — involved in politics and what he wants to be the prime minister. and ithink— wants to be the prime minister. and i think that — wants to be the prime minister. and i think that is a good thing. but we do have _ i think that is a good thing. but we do have different ways of telling the same sort of, you know, values and what _ the same sort of, you know, values and what we — the same sort of, you know, values and what we want to see the country into the _ and what we want to see the country into the future and what drives our politics~ _ into the future and what drives our politics~ l — into the future and what drives our tolitics. ., ., _, ,, ,., into the future and what drives our tolitics. ., ., ,, ,, ., politics. i have to confess you know eve one politics. i have to confess you know everyone has _ politics. i have to confess you know everyone has catchphrases - politics. i have to confess you know everyone has catchphrases that - politics. i have to confess you know| everyone has catchphrases that they use all the time, one of mine is actually from you saying that and when somebody is not doing enough say come on, put some welly in it, channelling you. sounds ago should stop saying that. just channelling you. sounds ago should stop saying that-— stop saying that. just put some well in stop saying that. just put some welly in yourself. _ stop saying that. just put some welly in yourself. so _ stop saying that. just put some welly in yourself. so i - stop saying that. just put some welly in yourself. so i can - stop saying that. just put some welly in yourself. so i can say l stop saying that. just put some | welly in yourself. so i can say to m self welly in yourself. so i can say to myself like _ welly in yourself. so i can say to myself like an _ welly in yourself. so i can say to myself like an internal— welly in yourself. so i can say to myself like an internal mantra. l myself like an internal mantra. somebody who puts a lot of welly entertains as the snp's deputy leader at westminster was the youngest mp elected a years ago got a lot of attention and her maiden speech went viral around the world and she announced on another podcast which we also love, that she's going to resign from parliament and not stand again in one of the things she said which is the level of abuse and
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grief that she got and she said that actually, the labour party were the ones who gave the most grief. what say to that? i ones who gave the most grief. what say to that?— say to that? i find it apparent that there is abuse _ say to that? i find it apparent that there is abuse that _ say to that? i find it apparent that there is abuse that is _ say to that? i find it apparent that there is abuse that is thrown - say to that? i find it apparent that l there is abuse that is thrown around to politicians. and i've said quite openly— to politicians. and i've said quite openly on— to politicians. and i've said quite openly on many occasions that of all political— openly on many occasions that of all political parties, women get the most _ political parties, women get the most abuse. and i say that time and time again— most abuse. and i say that time and time again because i don't like to single _ time again because i don't like to single out, — time again because i don't like to single out, you know, people. it is well documented the abuse that i have received as well and i don't doubt _ have received as well and i don't doubt for— have received as well and i don't doubt for one minute what that puts her through and i think it is disgusting that politicians have two tolerate _ disgusting that politicians have two tolerate that. myra is elected to her constituents so when they tried to silence _ her constituents so when they tried to silence out there trying to silence — to silence out there trying to silence her democratic right to represent her constituents and i respect — represent her constituents and i respect that and i respect all politicians to be able to do that. and i_ politicians to be able to do that. and i think— politicians to be able to do that. and i think it is a sad case that in this day— and i think it is a sad case that in this day and _ and i think it is a sad case that in this day and age, far too many politicians, especially female, have
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beenr _ politicians, especially female, have been. you — politicians, especially female, have been, you know, making decisions that have — been, you know, making decisions that have been around, you know, not carrying _ that have been around, you know, not carrying on _ that have been around, you know, not carrying on. we saw that at the last general— carrying on. we saw that at the last general election. female politicians from different political parties that decided not to stand again because — that decided not to stand again because of the level of abuse that they have — because of the level of abuse that they have received and think it damages — they have received and think it damages our democracy when people don't feel— damages our democracy when people don't feel that they can express their— don't feel that they can express their constituencies. yell out everything else being equal women journalists get more abuse than blokes — journalists get more abuse than blokes who are journalists. and that is toxic— blokes who are journalists. and that is toxic again. i absolutely agree. women _ is toxic again. i absolutely agree. womenjournalists. i've seen the abuse _ womenjournalists. i've seen the abuse they— womenjournalists. i've seen the abuse they get tanned, you know, again. _ abuse they get tanned, you know, again. it _ abuse they get tanned, you know, again. it is — abuse they get tanned, you know, again, it is challenging that that exists _ again, it is challenging that that exists at — again, it is challenging that that exists at the moment that camino, somehow— exists at the moment that camino, somehow i — exists at the moment that camino, somehow i am a working class woman from the _ somehow i am a working class woman from the north of england and for somer _ from the north of england and for some. how— from the north of england and for some, how dare i have the audacity to speak— some, how dare i have the audacity to speak out — some, how dare i have the audacity to speak out and speak up and judged differently _ to speak out and speak up and judged differently and i think many women whether— differently and i think many women whetherjournalism, the boardroom politics _ whetherjournalism, the boardroom politics get the same treatment and ithink—
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politics get the same treatment and i think we _ politics get the same treatment and i think we have to keep challenging it. ,, ., i think we have to keep challenging it. kier starmer was asked about 'ust boil it. kier starmer was asked about just boil and _ it. kier starmer was asked about just boil and describe _ it. kier starmer was asked about just boil and describe them - it. kier starmer was asked about just boil and describe them as i just boil and describe them as hugely arrogant. is he right? i hugely arrogant. is he right? i think, to be honest, ifjust stop oil want — think, to be honest, ifjust stop oil want people to get on board with their cars _ oil want people to get on board with their cars then causing maximum destruction people that are trying to go— destruction people that are trying to go about their lives is probably not going — to go about their lives is probably not going to win them friends and influence — not going to win them friends and influence people in terms of the way that they— influence people in terms of the way that they want to. i think there's more _ that they want to. i think there's more than — that they want to. i think there's more than one way of... you know, the right— more than one way of... you know, the right to — more than one way of... you know, the right to protest in this country is an— the right to protest in this country is an important right but some of the way— is an important right but some of the way in — is an important right but some of the way in which they are going about— the way in which they are going about it — the way in which they are going about it i — the way in which they are going about it i think actually is doing a disadvantage to the cause that there trying _ disadvantage to the cause that there trying to— disadvantage to the cause that there trying to highlight as opposed to dealing — trying to highlight as opposed to dealing with the issues that i think the vast _ dealing with the issues that i think the vast majority of this country want _ the vast majority of this country want to— the vast majority of this country want to see us move to a net zero, want _ want to see us move to a net zero, want to— want to see us move to a net zero, want to see _ want to see us move to a net zero, want to see has moved to a carbon neutral— want to see has moved to a carbon neutral society and we are moving in that direction but i think it takes is backwards with some of the antics used and _ is backwards with some of the antics used and i_ is backwards with some of the antics used and i don't think it helps
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their— used and i don't think it helps their cause to be in the public with them _ their cause to be in the public with them. ,, ., their cause to be in the public with them, ., their cause to be in the public with them. ., ., , ., . , their cause to be in the public with them. ., ., , ., ., them. some of the latest antics was at wimbledon _ them. some of the latest antics was at wimbledon when _ them. some of the latest antics was at wimbledon when some _ them. some of the latest antics was| at wimbledon when some protesters invaded one of the courts and threw some confetti which was mixed with the jig some confetti which was mixed with thejig is some confetti which was mixed with the jig is also some confetti which was mixed with thejig is also part some confetti which was mixed with the jig is also part of some confetti which was mixed with thejig is also part of me some confetti which was mixed with the jig is also part of me when he wants to know what the picture was. are going to do it on the court. . are going to do it on the court. , to advance my house. so make you can imagine how scary that is. i took my children to edinburgh festival last year and bearing children to edinburgh festival last yearand bearing in mind the children to edinburgh festival last year and bearing in mind the panic buttons we have at our house, in the audience, some people, i don't know which group they were involved in, decided tojump up and do a protest. some people might think, well, that's not too bad. but it absolutely petrified by children because they thought something serious was going to happen at the time and throwing staff and you don't know what that contains. i don't know what that contains. i just don't think it is a way of getting _ just don't think it is a way of getting your message across, if i am honest~ _ getting your message across, if i am honest i_ getting your message across, if i am honest. i don't think it helps bring the honest. idon't think it helps bring the public— honest. i don't think it helps bring the public with you. i think it is disruptive _
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the public with you. i think it is disruptive. it is, you know, it is scary— disruptive. it is, you know, it is scary for— disruptive. it is, you know, it is scary for people and it doesn't get your message across that you want to get across. — your message across that you want to get across. i_ your message across that you want to get across. i think there are other ways— get across. i think there are other ways of— get across. i think there are other ways of doing that and peaceful protest — ways of doing that and peaceful protest in this country is a right and there — protest in this country is a right and there are ways to do that and if you do— and there are ways to do that and if you do it _ and there are ways to do that and if you do it in — and there are ways to do that and if you do it in a — and there are ways to do that and if you do it in a proper manner, and there's— you do it in a proper manner, and there's lots — you do it in a proper manner, and there's lots of ways to protest. i silently— there's lots of ways to protest. i silently protest a town hall once years _ silently protest a town hall once years ago — silently protest a town hall once years ago as the trade union rabbit was quite — years ago as the trade union rabbit was quite surreal. 500 people understand the silent and we had our banners— understand the silent and we had our banners and — understand the silent and we had our banners and defeats everybody out there _ banners and defeats everybody out there we _ banners and defeats everybody out there we were so quiet but i think there _ there we were so quiet but i think there are — there we were so quiet but i think there are ways of getting your message across they can take their public— message across they can take their public with— message across they can take their public with you as opposed to disruption. public with you as opposed to disruption-— public with you as opposed to disru ttion. ,, ~ ., ., , disruption. seeing angela rayner beint disruption. seeing angela rayner being silent _ disruption. seeing angela rayner being silent would _ disruption. seeing angela rayner being silent would be _ disruption. seeing angela rayner being silent would be much - disruption. seeing angela rayner being silent would be much more scary to me than someone throwing confetti, to be honest. but i'm sorry to hear about how your family felt when those protesters turned up. is the stuff that you don't do as a family because you're worried about their safety because of your job? things that used to do that you just don't do any more? i job? things that used to do that you just don't do any more?— just don't do any more? i don't go out with my _ just don't do any more? i don't go out with my friends _ just don't do any more? i don't go out with my friends on _ just don't do any more? i don't go out with my friends on a - just don't do any more? i don't go out with my friends on a night - just don't do any more? i don't go| out with my friends on a night out. i out with my friends on a night out. i don't _ out with my friends on a night out. i don't publicise if i'm going
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somewhere before going there, often. it somewhere before going there, often. it has _ somewhere before going there, often. it has to— somewhere before going there, often. it has to be _ somewhere before going there, often. it has to be risk assessed and, yeah. — it has to be risk assessed and, yeah. does— it has to be risk assessed and, yeah, does have an impact and, you know _ yeah, does have an impact and, you know. it _ yeah, does have an impact and, you know. it is _ yeah, does have an impact and, you know, it is sad. i got death threats to my— know, it is sad. i got death threats to my children as well. they need a scorching _ to my children as well. they need a scorching turn from school now. we don't _ scorching turn from school now. we don't bite _ scorching turn from school now. we don't bite them... they are teenagers, 14 or 15 and we don't let them _ teenagers, 14 or 15 and we don't let them walk— teenagers, 14 or 15 and we don't let them walk home from school like any child were _ them walk home from school like any child were because they're worried about— child were because they're worried about them, you know, it does affect things. _ about them, you know, it does affect things. you _ about them, you know, it does affect things, you know. often, the people that have _ things, you know. often, the people that have been, you know, the police have been— that have been, you know, the police have been involved in the spokespeople are sent first to me in past _ spokespeople are sent first to me in past, they— spokespeople are sent first to me in past, they didn't realise the consequence of doing that. they didn't— consequence of doing that. they didn't see — consequence of doing that. they didn't see it as... theyjust thought. _ didn't see it as... theyjust thought, you know, iwas drunk didn't see it as... theyjust thought, you know, i was drunk or did really— thought, you know, i was drunk or did really mean it but it has an effect — did really mean it but it has an effect on — did really mean it but it has an effect on people. find did really mean it but it has an effect on people.— effect on people. and you're trobabl effect on people. and you're probably rrot _ effect on people. and you're probably not allowed - effect on people. and you're probably not allowed to - effect on people. and you're probably not allowed to say | effect on people. and you're i probably not allowed to say but effect on people. and you're - probably not allowed to say but have you had a discussion she had with the police in this books about if you become deputy prime minister in a year, whether you might need more security as a result than any other
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previous deputy prime minister? haven't had those discussions but the one _ haven't had those discussions but the one thing i decided and i think the one thing i decided and i think the one _ the one thing i decided and i think the one thing i decided and i think the one thing that i know is that it is a tiny— the one thing that i know is that it is a tiny minority and of the people the police — is a tiny minority and of the people the police have dealt with the majority — the police have dealt with the majority of them have had absolute genuine _ majority of them have had absolute genuine remorse for what they have done and _ genuine remorse for what they have done and they didn't realise the impact — done and they didn't realise the impact on — done and they didn't realise the impact on sending those messages that are _ impact on sending those messages that are hard on me and my family. so, that are hard on me and my family. so. you _ that are hard on me and my family. so, you know, i don't think, i don't so, you know, idon't think, i don't think— so, you know, i don't think, i don't think the _ so, you know, i don't think, i don't think the majority of people and i don't _ think the majority of people and i don't think the that high but when you have — don't think the that high but when you have had two politicians assassinated since i've been a member— assassinated since i've been a member of parliament since 2015, two of my— member of parliament since 2015, two of my colleagues have been murdered at work. _ of my colleagues have been murdered at work, does have an impact on peoples — at work, does have an impact on peoples family and friends when people _ peoples family and friends when people send you those type of messages. people send you those type of messages-— people send you those type of messates. �* y a ., messages. blimey. when we are listenint messages. blimey. when we are listening to _ messages. blimey. when we are listening to this _ messages. blimey. when we are listening to this it's _ messages. blimey. when we are listening to this it's not - messages. blimey. when we are listening to this it's notjust - messages. blimey. when we are listening to this it's notjust for. listening to this it's notjust for you but for your own children day—to—day, we might wonder if it ever crosses your mind to ever walk away from all of their sin that is one heck of an implication notjust
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for you but for yourfamily, for for you but for your family, for your children.— for you but for your family, for your children. for you but for your family, for our children. ., i. ,, ., , your children. yeah, you know, it is hard on family _ your children. yeah, you know, it is hard on family and _ your children. yeah, you know, it is hard on family and friends - your children. yeah, you know, it is hard on family and friends and, - your children. yeah, you know, it is hard on family and friends and, you j hard on family and friends and, you know _ hard on family and friends and, you know. my— hard on family and friends and, you know, my eldest lad once said to me, mumr _ know, my eldest lad once said to me, mum. is _ know, my eldest lad once said to me, mum. is it— know, my eldest lad once said to me, mum, is it worth it and i think democracy— mum, is it worth it and i think democracy is worth it. i think if we let people — democracy is worth it. i think if we let people silence people out of politics — let people silence people out of politics i— let people silence people out of politics i think it is absolutely devastated that my rare black thinks that she _ devastated that my rare black thinks that she cannot carry on. she has an absolute _ that she cannot carry on. she has an absolute right to be elected by her constituents.— constituents. that is an incredibly serious note _ constituents. that is an incredibly serious note to _ constituents. that is an incredibly serious note to end _ constituents. that is an incredibly serious note to end on. _ constituents. that is an incredibly serious note to end on. really - serious note to end on. really serious note to end on. really serious for all those tv show of the season so that sender trivia thing. it is barbecue whether at the moment. have you ever been to a barbecue at keir starmer�*s how somebody like on the grill? he hasn't invited me out. he is more than _ hasn't invited me out. he is more than welcome to come to one in manchester. i'm not sure that we have _ manchester. i'm not sure that we have what — manchester. i'm not sure that we have what we would call barbecue whether— have what we would call barbecue whether manchester but we have gazebos — whether manchester but we have
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gazebos. if whether manchester but we have tazebos. ., ., ., , . , ., gazebos. if we managed to secure you a sausate, gazebos. if we managed to secure you a sausage. we — gazebos. if we managed to secure you a sausage, we will— gazebos. if we managed to secure you a sausage, we will have _ gazebos. if we managed to secure you a sausage, we will have done - gazebos. if we managed to secure you a sausage, we will have done our - a sausage, we will have done our job. but essentially dodgy. thank ou. job. but essentially dodgy. thank you- angela _ job. but essentially dodgy. thank you. angela rayner's _ job. but essentially dodgy. thank you. angela rayner's comments | you. angela rayner's comments leaders on — you. angela rayner's comments leaders on next _ you. angela rayner's comments leaders on next conversation. i you. angela rayner's comments i leaders on next conversation. have you joined the new social network? i you joined the new social network? i have said not yet but i don't know if i will. ii have said not yet but i don't know if i will. ., , ., ., if i will. if tonight you will have 30,000,001. _ if i will. if tonight you will have 30,000,001. anyway - if i will. if tonight you will have 30,000,001. anyway a - if i will. if tonight you will have 30,000,001. anyway a whole | if i will. if tonight you will have - 30,000,001. anyway a whole other thing for westminster to check on their phones and to people who will doing that lucy fisher the whitehall editor for financial times and ava santino who is the correspondent for politics joe. santino who is the correspondent for politicsjoe. have you both joined threads? politicsjoe. have you bothjoined threads? i politics joe. have you both “oined threads? ., , , , politics joe. have you both “oined threads? , , ., ., threads? i was buying on it at midnight- _ threads? i was buying on it at midnight- l — threads? i was buying on it at midnight. i was _ threads? i was buying on it at midnight. i was up _ threads? i was buying on it at midnight. i was up for- threads? i was buying on it at midnight. i was up for the - midnight. i was up for the announcement. i wanted to be first, you know. _ announcement. i wanted to be first, you know. i— announcement. i wanted to be first, you know, iwanted announcement. i wanted to be first, you know, i wanted to carve out the space _ you know, i wanted to carve out the stace. ~ ., you know, i wanted to carve out the
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stace. . ., ., , you know, i wanted to carve out the stace. ~ . .,, ,, you know, i wanted to carve out the stace. . ., , you know, i wanted to carve out the stace.~ ., , you know, i wanted to carve out the stace. . ., , had space. what was your first post? had to do a little — space. what was your first post? had to do a little make _ space. what was your first post? had to do a little make lynch. _ space. what was your first post? had to do a little make lynch. it - space. what was your first post? had to do a little make lynch. it was - to do a little make lynch. it was him trashing the prime minister. what _ him trashing the prime minister. what you — him trashing the prime minister. what you get on threads, haven't fully checked it out properly? you do tet fully checked it out properly? you do get likes _ fully checked it out properly? you do get likes but it is really lonely~ _ do get likes but it is really lonely~ i— do get likes but it is really lonely. i wasjust kind of shouting to an _ lonely. i wasjust kind of shouting to an empty room.— lonely. i wasjust kind of shouting to an empty room. when sports clubs describe themselves _ to an empty room. when sports clubs describe themselves as _ to an empty room. when sports clubs describe themselves as the _ to an empty room. when sports clubs describe themselves as the first - describe themselves as the first football club you think or did you play in the first weekend? you were quicklyjoined by 7 million other people in the first hour. i quickly joined by 7 million other people in the first hour.- quickly joined by 7 million other people in the first hour. i took a sort of deep _ people in the first hour. i took a sort of deep breath _ people in the first hour. i took a sort of deep breath before - people in the first hour. i took a | sort of deep breath before diving people in the first hour. i took a i sort of deep breath before diving in because _ sort of deep breath before diving in because i_ sort of deep breath before diving in because i slide _ sort of deep breath before diving in because i slide the _ sort of deep breath before diving in because i slide the sort— sort of deep breath before diving in because i slide the sort of- sort of deep breath before diving in because i slide the sort of want- sort of deep breath before diving in because i slide the sort of want to. because i slide the sort of want to of the _ because i slide the sort of want to of the sort — because i slide the sort of want to of the sort of— because i slide the sort of want to of the sort of message _ because i slide the sort of want to of the sort of message board i because i slide the sort of want toi of the sort of message board social media _ of the sort of message board social media which— of the sort of message board social media which i— of the sort of message board social media which i am _ of the sort of message board social media which i am as _ of the sort of message board social media which i am as addicted i of the sort of message board social media which i am as addicted to i of the sort of message board social media which i am as addicted to as| media which i am as addicted to as everyone _ media which i am as addicted to as everyone but— media which i am as addicted to as everyone but i_ media which i am as addicted to as everyone but i do— media which i am as addicted to as everyone but i do think— media which i am as addicted to as everyone but i do think it- media which i am as addicted to as everyone but i do think it has- everyone but i do think it has slightly— everyone but i do think it has slightly corrosive _ everyone but i do think it has slightly corrosive effect i everyone but i do think it has slightly corrosive effect on i slightly corrosive effect on newsgathering _ slightly corrosive effect on newsgathering which i slightly corrosive effect on newsgathering which is i slightly corrosive effect on| newsgathering which is my slightly corrosive effect on - newsgathering which is my business because _ newsgathering which is my business because i'm —
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newsgathering which is my business because i'm looking _ newsgathering which is my business because i'm looking at— newsgathering which is my business because i'm looking at what - newsgathering which is my business because i'm looking at what other . because i'm looking at what other reporters— because i'm looking at what other reporters are _ because i'm looking at what other reporters are doing _ because i'm looking at what other reporters are doing and _ because i'm looking at what other reporters are doing and i- because i'm looking at what other reporters are doing and i am i reporters are doing and i am inspired _ reporters are doing and i am inspired to _ reporters are doing and i am inspired to go _ reporters are doing and i am inspired to go the _ reporters are doing and i am inspired to go the same i reporters are doing and i am i inspired to go the same direction and hopefully— inspired to go the same direction and hopefully someone - inspired to go the same direction i and hopefully someone somewhere inspired to go the same direction - 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is not on the ground, even worse, at what rival organisations are doing i what rival organisations are doing and i_ what rival organisations are doing and i think— what rival organisations are doing and i think it— what rival organisations are doing and i think it encourages- what rival organisations are doing and i think it encourages a - what rival organisations are doing and i think it encourages a herd l and i think it encourages a herd mentality— and i think it encourages a herd mentality and _ and i think it encourages a herd mentality and group _ and i think it encourages a herd mentality and group thinking. l and i think it encourages a herd i mentality and group thinking. all that said. — mentality and group thinking. all that said. i— mentality and group thinking. all that said, i did— mentality and group thinking. all that said, i did join. _ mentality and group thinking. all that said, i didjoin. i— mentality and group thinking. all that said, i did join. i have - mentality and group thinking. all that said, i didjoin. i havejoined threads _ that said, i didjoin. i havejoined threads and _ that said, i didjoin. i havejoined threads and i_ that said, i didjoin. i havejoined threads and i think— that said, i didjoin. i havejoined threads and i think they - that said, i didjoin. i havejoined threads and i think they have i that said, i did join. i have joined. threads and i think they have tried to fix— threads and i think they have tried to fix the — threads and i think they have tried to fix the whitespace _ threads and i think they have tried to fix the whitespace thing. - threads and i think they have tried to fix the whitespace thing. so i threads and i think they have tried to fix the whitespace thing. so much whitespace- — to fix the whitespace thing. so much whitespace- l _ to fix the whitespace thing. so much whitespace. i was _ to fix the whitespace thing. so much whitespace. i was being _ to fix the whitespace thing. so much whitespace. i was being served i to fix the whitespace thing. so much whitespace. i was being served up i whitespace. i was being served up paris hilton. _ whitespace. i was being served up paris hilton, leeds _ whitespace. i was being served up paris hilton, leeds fc, _ whitespace. i was being served up paris hilton, leeds fc, an - 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as well. do you think we will catch on for politics? instagram hasn't really caught on in the political world. we'll use it for a mates in politics but not for ourjobs, do we? i politics but not for our “obs, do we? ., ., politics but not for our “obs, do we? ,, ~' ., politics but not for our “obs, do we? , ., ., , , politics but not for our “obs, do we? ~' ~' ., , , . we? i think it kind of depends. we are an online _ we? i think it kind of depends. we are an online outlet _ we? i think it kind of depends. we are an online outlet solely - we? i think it kind of depends. we are an online outlet solely based l we? i think it kind of depends. we. are an online outlet solely based on and aimed _ are an online outlet solely based on and aimed at— are an online outlet solely based on and aimed at under— are an online outlet solely based on and aimed at under 35— are an online outlet solely based on and aimed at under 35 so _ are an online outlet solely based on and aimed at under 35 so instagram is one— and aimed at under 35 so instagram is one of— and aimed at under 35 so instagram is one of our, — and aimed at under 35 so instagram is one of our, you _ and aimed at under 35 so instagram is one of our, you know, _ and aimed at under 35 so instagram is one of our, you know, that - and aimed at under 35 so instagram is one of our, you know, that is i is one of our, you know, that is where — is one of our, you know, that is where we — is one of our, you know, that is where we build _ is one of our, you know, that is where we build from _ is one of our, you know, that is where we build from and - is one of our, you know, that is i where we build from and actually we have a _ where we build from and actually we have a huge — where we build from and actually we have a huge following _ where we build from and actually we have a huge following on _ where we build from and actually we have a huge following on there i where we build from and actually we have a huge following on there and i have a huge following on there and we put _ have a huge following on there and we put breaking _ have a huge following on there and we put breaking news— have a huge following on there and we put breaking news on— have a huge following on there and we put breaking news on there. i have a huge following on there and l we put breaking news on there. over the years— we put breaking news on there. over the years that — we put breaking news on there. over the years that the _ we put breaking news on there. over the years that the past _ we put breaking news on there. over the years that the past year. - the years that the past year. millions _ the years that the past year. millions of— the years that the past year. millions of people _ the years that the past year. millions of people engage i the years that the past year. . millions of people engage with the years that the past year. - millions of people engage with it every— millions of people engage with it every month— millions of people engage with it every month which _ millions of people engage with it every month which is _ millions of people engage with it. every month which is extraordinary. so every month which is extraordinary. 50 threads — every month which is extraordinary. so threads will— every month which is extraordinary. so threads will be _ every month which is extraordinary. so threads will be huge _ every month which is extraordinary. so threads will be huge for - every month which is extraordinary. so threads will be huge for you. - every month which is extraordinary. | so threads will be huge for you. the 50 threads will be huge for you. the bi test so threads will be huge for you. the big test will be when there is a breaking — big test will be when there is a breaking news— big test will be when there is a breaking news day. _ big test will be when there is a breaking news day. god - big test will be when there is a breaking news day. god forbid | breaking news day. god forbid something _ breaking news day. god forbid something terrible _ breaking news day. god forbid something terrible happens i breaking news day. god forbid something terrible happens or resignation, _ something terrible happens or resignation, if— something terrible happens or resignation, if twitter- something terrible happens or resignation, if twitter can - something terrible happens or- resignation, if twitter can platform all the _ resignation, if twitter can platform all the journalist _ resignation, if twitter can platform all the journalist and _ resignation, if twitter can platform all the journalist and you _ resignation, if twitter can platform all the journalist and you can - resignation, if twitter can platform all the journalist and you can see l all the journalist and you can see across_ all the journalist and you can see across that — all the journalist and you can see across that there _ all the journalist and you can see across that there maybe - all the journalist and you can see across that there maybe it's - all the journalist and you can see across that there maybe it's goti across that there maybe it's got potential— across that there maybe it's got potential but _ across that there maybe it's got potential but at _ across that there maybe it's got potential but at the _ across that there maybe it's got potential but at the moment. across that there maybe it's got potential but at the moment it. across that there maybe it's got - potential but at the moment it kind of feets _ potential but at the moment it kind of feels a _ potential but at the moment it kind of feels a little _ potential but at the moment it kind of feels a little bit _ potential but at the moment it kind of feels a little bit like _ potential but at the moment it kind of feels a little bit like a _ potential but at the moment it kind of feels a little bit like a bloke - of feels a little bit like a bloke inside — of feels a little bit like a bloke inside i— of feels a little bit like a bloke inside. ., �* ~ ., of feels a little bit like a bloke inside. ., �* ~' ., ., of feels a little bit like a bloke inside. ., �* ~ ., ., ., inside. i don't know how long the messaues inside. i don't know how long the messages are. _ inside. i don't know how long the messages are. is _ inside. i don't know how long the messages are. is at _ inside. i don't know how long the messages are. is at 500? -
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inside. i don't know how long the i messages are. is at 500? conscious that someone — messages are. is at 500? conscious that someone might _ messages are. is at 500? conscious that someone might be _ messages are. is at 500? conscious that someone might be listening - messages are. is at 500? conscious| that someone might be listening and thinking i don't know many social media sites at all. and therefore the extent to which this might sound... it) the extent to which this might sound... as ., , , sound... 30 million did sign up around the _ sound... 30 million did sign up around the world _ sound... 30 million did sign up around the world on _ sound... 30 million did sign up around the world on day - sound... 30 million did sign up around the world on day one. | sound... 30 million did sign up- around the world on day one. appear in the eu we can apply the new digital services act and matter, the facebook parent company say they are waiting to see how that pans out. the two thoughts i have are to what extent does it build some momentum or are these 30 million people who are curious and don't use it very much aware the tone of the conversation ends up? it end up as, well, frankly, angry and sometimes horrible as twitter occasionally may be more than occasionally can. i
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be more than occasionally can. i wonder too. be more than occasionally can. i wondertoo. i be more than occasionally can. i wonder too. i think it will develop its own— wonder too. i think it will develop its own personality that is separate from twitter but right now i sorta think— from twitter but right now i sorta think a _ from twitter but right now i sorta think a tot — from twitter but right now i sorta think a lot of people have joined it are people — think a lot of people have joined it are people who have probably come from twitter and one of my questions is, are _ from twitter and one of my questions is, are people going to post on both sides _ is, are people going to post on both sides if— is, are people going to post on both sides if you — is, are people going to post on both sides. if you got a profound or less profound _ sides. if you got a profound or less profound thought, for me it is egotistical enough to sort of, you know, _ egotistical enough to sort of, you know, broadcast on one but i'm not sure how— know, broadcast on one but i'm not sure how that will work either. distributed do you think matters much now as it used to? i distributed do you think matters much now as it used to?- distributed do you think matters much now as it used to? i think it has lost influence. _ much now as it used to? i think it has lost influence. we _ much now as it used to? i think it has lost influence. we might - much now as it used to? i think it has lost influence. we might rise | much now as it used to? i think it. has lost influence. we might rise it is most _ has lost influence. we might rise it is most important thing going because — is most important thing going because it directs traffic to our youtube — because it directs traffic to our youtube server without it we actually _ youtube server without it we actually don't exist so threads coming — actually don't exist so threads coming along as of a benefit for us but it— coming along as of a benefit for us but it does— coming along as of a benefit for us but it does make me wonder why there hasn't _ but it does make me wonder why there hasn't been _ but it does make me wonder why there hasn't been a _ but it does make me wonder why there hasn't been a select committee. i know— hasn't been a select committee. i know that — hasn't been a select committee. i know that was signed with the extreme — know that was signed with the extreme always feel like dcms over the behind the rest of the world. the culture department? 30
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the behind the rest of the world. the culture department? so behind the rest of the _ the culture department? so behind the rest of the world _ the culture department? so behind the rest of the world in _ the culture department? so behind the rest of the world in any - the rest of the world in any scrutinising after the fight and you think— scrutinising after the fight and you think at— scrutinising after the fight and you think at the moment most young people _ think at the moment most young people are getting their news online, — people are getting their news online, getting it on social media. there _ online, getting it on social media. there are — online, getting it on social media. there are no — online, getting it on social media. there are no checks and balances making _ there are no checks and balances making sure that is correct or dangerous and nobody is talking about _ dangerous and nobody is talking about it — dangerous and nobody is talking about it in — dangerous and nobody is talking about it in parliament. | dangerous and nobody is talking about it in parliament.— about it in parliament. i was readin: about it in parliament. i was reading the _ about it in parliament. i was reading the reuters - about it in parliament. i was reading the reuters news i about it in parliament. i was - reading the reuters news report which came out the other day and had some very good detailed data about the podcast performance of various political podcasts. top three. just saying. footnote there. we are very magnanimous and modest here. but one of the things when i was reading the small print, people use the apps on the websites and legacy media brands of the bbc and bbc, using aggregators and social media as a side door into the content and then people are a little bit sceptical of algorithms taking their news but
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they got the same appreciation for algorithms as they do for professional news editors so you suddenly realise there are a lot of things going on there very quickly they could be changing our business that we've grown up doing, like, massively, when it comes to doing it online. �* �* . ' online. and i'm sure different where ou are online. and i'm sure different where you are but — online. and i'm sure different where you are but i've _ online. and i'm sure different where you are but i've worked _ online. and i'm sure different where you are but i've worked in _ online. and i'm sure different where you are but i've worked in places - you are but i've worked in places before _ you are but i've worked in places before we — you are but i've worked in places before we have _ you are but i've worked in places before we have a _ you are but i've worked in places before we have a leaderboard i you are but i've worked in places before we have a leaderboard soj you are but i've worked in places - before we have a leaderboard so you will post _ before we have a leaderboard so you will post an — before we have a leaderboard so you will post an article _ before we have a leaderboard so you will post an article and _ before we have a leaderboard so you will post an article and it _ before we have a leaderboard so you will post an article and it will- will post an article and it will come — will post an article and it will come up _ will post an article and it will come up on _ will post an article and it will come up on a _ will post an article and it will come up on a leaderboard i will post an article and it will. come up on a leaderboard and will post an article and it will- come up on a leaderboard and you're expected _ come up on a leaderboard and you're expected to — come up on a leaderboard and you're expected to hit — come up on a leaderboard and you're expected to hit a _ come up on a leaderboard and you're expected to hit a target _ come up on a leaderboard and you're expected to hit a target for _ come up on a leaderboard and you're expected to hit a target for howeveri expected to hit a target for however many _ expected to hit a target for however many people — expected to hit a target for however many peopte can _ expected to hit a target for however many people can read _ expected to hit a target for however many people can read it— expected to hit a target for however many people can read it everyday. i many people can read it everyday. how does — many people can read it everyday. how does that _ many people can read it everyday. how does that duty _ many people can read it everyday. how does that duty as _ many people can read it everyday. how does that duty as a _ many people can read it everyday. | how does that duty as a journalist? do you find yourself going down a different path to where your brain wants to go? i different path to where your brain wants to go?— wants to go? i think it kind of makes you — wants to go? i think it kind of makes you put _ wants to go? i think it kind of makes you put out _ wants to go? i think it kind of makes you put out a - wants to go? i think it kind of makes you put out a bit - wants to go? i think it kind of makes you put out a bit of. wants to go? i think it kind of. makes you put out a bit of trash because — makes you put out a bit of trash because you _ makes you put out a bit of trash because you kind _ makes you put out a bit of trash because you kind of— makes you put out a bit of trash because you kind of go, - makes you put out a bit of trash because you kind of go, well, ii because you kind of go, well, i would — because you kind of go, well, i would like _ because you kind of go, well, i would like to _ because you kind of go, well, i would like to put _ because you kind of go, well, i would like to put up _ because you kind of go, well, i would like to put up this - because you kind of go, well, i would like to put up this with l because you kind of go, well, i. would like to put up this with the important — would like to put up this with the important story— would like to put up this with the important story that _ would like to put up this with the important story that i've - would like to put up this with the important story that i've writteni important story that i've written about _ important story that i've written about years _ important story that i've written about years harassment - important story that i've written about years harassment in - about years harassment in westminster, _ about years harassment in westminster, for- about years harassment inl westminster, for example, about years harassment in - westminster, for example, but i about years harassment in _ westminster, for example, but i know i westminster, for example, but i know icoutd _ westminster, for example, but i know icoutd do— westminster, for example, but i know icoutd do the — westminster, for example, but i know icoutd do the by— westminster, for example, but i know i could do the by factor— westminster, for example, but i know i could do the by factor and _ westminster, for example, but i know i could do the by factor and i- westminster, for example, but i know i could do the by factor and i know- i could do the by factor and i know i could do the by factor and i know iwitt— i could do the by factor and i know iwitt hit _ i could do the by factor and i know iwitt hit my— i could do the by factor and i know i will hit my target _ i could do the by factor and i know i will hit my target with _ i could do the by factor and i know i will hit my target with that. - i could do the by factor and i know i will hit my target with that. the i i will hit my target with that. the other— i will hit my target with that. the other make —
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i will hit my target with that. the other make this _ i will hit my target with that. the other make this paisley - i will hit my target with that. the other make this paisley very- i will hit my target with that. the - other make this paisley very tempted to pick— other make this paisley very tempted to pick up— other make this paisley very tempted to pick up a _ other make this paisley very tempted to pick up a physical— other make this paisley very tempted to pick up a physical newspaper- other make this paisley very tempted to pick up a physical newspaper and i to pick up a physical newspaper and put my— to pick up a physical newspaper and put my fingers _ to pick up a physical newspaper and put my fingers in— to pick up a physical newspaper and put my fingers in my— to pick up a physical newspaper and put my fingers in my ears. - to pick up a physical newspaper and put my fingers in my ears. i- to pick up a physical newspaper and put my fingers in my ears. i admit. put my fingers in my ears. i admit how we _ put my fingers in my ears. i admit how we hold — put my fingers in my ears. i admit how we hold the _ put my fingers in my ears. i admit how we hold the newspaper? - put my fingers in my ears. i admit how we hold the newspaper? findj how we hold the newspaper? and retreat to a _ how we hold the newspaper? retreat to a bygone era. a quick word about social media abuse. and your experience of it. i was suggesting to angela because she was reflecting how female politicians get a lot more abuse than male politicians. i think female journalists tend to get a lot more than male journalists come on the whole, everything else being equal. i wonder what your experiences are? off early scot—free but possibly assert — off early scot—free but possibly assert the modified my behaviour early— assert the modified my behaviour early on — assert the modified my behaviour early on in — assert the modified my behaviour earl on. . . . assert the modified my behaviour early on-_ i - assert the modified my behaviour early on._ i use . assert the modified my behaviour i early on._ i use many early on. in what sense? i use many to broadcast — early on. in what sense? i use many to broadcast and _ early on. in what sense? i use many to broadcast and also _ early on. in what sense? i use many to broadcast and also because - early on. in what sense? i use many to broadcast and also because i - to broadcast and also because i think— to broadcast and also because i think it — to broadcast and also because i think it can be such a drain of my time— think it can be such a drain of my time i_ think it can be such a drain of my time i don't — think it can be such a drain of my time i don't really get into conversations and i think phil is often _ conversations and i think phil is often is — conversations and i think phil is often is if— conversations and i think phil is often is if you don't really respond to things — often is if you don't really respond to things you can't be baited. i put that down— to things you can't be baited. i put that down to one reason abuse. | get that down to one reason abuse. i get tuite a that down to one reason abuse. i get quite a dramatic _ that down to one reason abuse. i get quite a dramatic difference. i actually— quite a dramatic difference. i actually reported _ quite a dramatic difference. i actually reported one - quite a dramatic difference. i actually reported one last - quite a dramatic difference. i. actually reported one last year because — actually reported one last year because it _ actually reported one last year because it was _ actually reported one last year because it was so _ actually reported one last year because it was so bad. - actually reported one last year because it was so bad. they. actually reported one last year. because it was so bad. they came actually reported one last year- because it was so bad. they came to instagram _ because it was so bad. they came to instagram so— because it was so bad. they came to instagram so someone _ because it was so bad. they came to instagram so someone saw- because it was so bad. they came to instagram so someone saw me - because it was so bad. they came to instagram so someone saw me on i instagram so someone saw me on twitter— instagram so someone saw me on twitter and _ instagram so someone saw me on twitter and they — instagram so someone saw me on twitter and they came _ instagram so someone saw me on twitter and they came and - instagram so someone saw me on twitter and they came and found i instagram so someone saw me on . twitter and they came and found me there _ twitter and they came and found me there and _ twitter and they came and found me there and i_ twitter and they came and found me there and i reported _ twitter and they came and found me there and i reported it— twitter and they came and found me there and i reported it because -
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twitter and they came and found me there and i reported it because it- there and i reported it because it was so _ there and i reported it because it was so violent _ there and i reported it because it was so violent and _ there and i reported it because it was so violent and he _ there and i reported it because it was so violent and he just - there and i reported it because it was so violent and he just got i was so violent and he just got convicted _ was so violent and he just got convicted for— was so violent and he just got convicted for it. _ was so violent and he just got convicted for it. malicious - convicted for it. malicious communications - convicted for it. malicious communications act. - convicted for it. malicious communications act. and | convicted for it. malicious - communications act. and has been sentenced — communications act. and has been sentenced. ., communications act. and has been sentenced-— sentenced. how did you find the olice sentenced. how did you find the police and _ sentenced. how did you find the police and their— sentenced. how did you find the police and their approach - sentenced. how did you find the police and their approach to - sentenced. how did you find the police and their approach to it? | sentenced. how did you find the i police and their approach to it? we make extraordinary. i can't believe they were so receptive to it. my sister push me to do it because it was that bad and they were incredible. staffordshire police and they were brilliant. despite that grim experience although a positive one with the police, you still sound like a social media evangelist. it is the nature of your work. thank you, you too. is the nature of your work. thank you. you too-— is the nature of your work. thank you, you too. i'm 'ust picking up my -h sical you, you too. i'm 'ust picking up my physical copy — you, you too. i'm 'ust picking up my physical copy of — you, you too. i'mjust picking up my physical copy of the _ you, you too. i'mjust picking up my physical copy of the newspaper - you, you too. i'mjust picking up my physical copy of the newspaper only j physical copy of the newspaper only i had it in front of me.— i had it in front of me. chris, thank you — i had it in front of me. chris, thank you very _ i had it in front of me. chris, thank you very much. - i had it in front of me. chris, thank you very much. and i i had it in front of me. chris, - thank you very much. and thank you very much for listening to others and watching us. this is the last tv show before parliament rises for a summer break and these lot are off to summer parties and we will be
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back, fairly soon. goodbye. goodbye. impactful showers and thunderstorms at the moment, especially for parts of scotland and england. through the rest of the weekend, still showers and thunderstorms, not quite as potent, the air is turning fresher from the west. that fresh air is out here just to the south and west of all this cloud, moving northwards and eastwards. this is the cold front from earlier which will eventually bring that big drop in temperature, back to the rest of the afternoon into the evening, across england and scotland you will see some showers and thunderstorms. still humid air in place, still mid 20s, high 205 across east anglia as we start this evening. tonight, showers and scotland and then for a
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while, pushing northwards, later across the channel islands and south—east of thing that we could see more storms return. in between those to most places become dry, partly clear skies, still warm, not as humid as the nightjust gone. sunday, south—east england, there could be heavy thundery rain in the morning, wet start for scotland, elsewhere, dry start, sunny spells, showers speaking out widely. there could be further interruptions at the ashes, rain close to silverstone, hopefully a lot of play at wimbledon. temperatures tomorrow, 21—24 c. sunday night into monday, the next developing area of pressure to the south—west will bring heavy rain across parts of ireland, wales, spreading through the midlands, northern england, southern scotland. some showers could still be on the thundery side. as at low pressure moves to the north—east through this coming week we start to have more of a westerly or north—westerly airflow, things will be much cooler through the week ahead. temperatures at or below average for the time of year, especially across the north of the country.
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