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in a tweet, lucy frazer said she had been assured by tim davie that the bbc was investigating the claims swiftly and sensitively. president biden will arrive in the uk this evening, ahead of a meeting with the prime minister, rishi sunak. the two allies have disagreed in public over the us decision to send controversial cluster bombs to ukraine. the issue has dominated the buildup to the visit. the us treasury secretary has ended a trip to beijing with an upbeat assessment of the state of ties with china. janet yellen told reporters they were moving towards a surer footing and a more healthy relationship. she described her talks with the chinese vice premier as candid and constructive. now on bbc news, click.
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la ra lara is creating something from nothing. looks like powder but it disappears. we are seeing how people can disappear into thin air. i want to meke— disappear into thin air. i want to make it— disappear into thin air. i want to make it look like people disappear. the lights _ make it look like people disappear. the lights are all changing and you are instantly moving into sunset. first up, it's movie quiz time. now, what dojames bond, star wars and the latest indiana jones film all have in common? correct — they were all filmed in part at pinewood studios, which is a brilliant place, totally iconic, with loads of stages and sets which have doubled for some of the most famous worlds in the world. and now, the studios in buckinghamshire
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have moved into the virtual world. in collaboration with sony, they've created a whole new filmmaking space, and paul carter has been to find out more. paul: at the world—famous pinewood, sony have created a space to show off the potential of a new kind of studio known as virtual production. it utilises a high—resolution crystal led screen to display the sets and environments actors will work in in real time. it combines the screen and lights with a cinema camera, but also, a virtual one. cool and the lights are all changing and we've instantly moved to sunset. it's an evolution of traditional green screens — a well—established method in modern filmmaking — but also one that brings particular technical challenges. anything that's reflective or transparent on a green screen environment is counterintuitive.
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it's a composition nightmare in postproduction. this is where the led technology complements. you can simply see through the glass, you'll see the reflections of what is happening. the difference it makes in perception and how it affects your kind of view of reality in terms of what is being shot, it's actually pretty dramatic, isn't it? the studio lights adapt with light from the screen and the virtual objects on it can change with the click of a button, all designed and rendered on the game platform unreal engine. the backdrops are not photos. filmmakers are already using virtual production to make their environments more immersive for those on set. from cinematographer�*s perspective, virtual production offers us a completely new approach to what would traditionally have been green screen. the key difference, of course, is we can actually see on set in real time the environment that's being comped in, and famously, that is what filmmakers have always tried to do, is to try and shoot as much in camera possible. it always seems to be
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the best result. but the coolest trick is that the angles shift dynamically, an effect known as parallax. we can get an understanding of how the parallax works as the camera moves. oh, yeah. and you can see background moving with the camera. yeah, to try and maintain the realism of us being in a 3d environment. at the heart of the space is one of sony's cinema venice cameras shooting in resolutions up to 8k. it is important to know what the virtual camera needs to do in order to make the real camera as believable as possible. to achieve this, a tiny camera sits on top of the big camera, tracking a smattering of infrared dots around the room. because there is a pattern, it will know exactly where the camera is. and as for the virtual side of things... so, the virtual camera and real camera is working together in harmony. we know where the camera is moving, is the focus changing,
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and that will tell the screen how to look. the white rectangle shows where in the scene the virtual camera is pointed and marks the area displayed on the big screen. all of this coming together is what makes it look believable when you're using a real camera to record anything. behind the screen is where the processing power takes place. it's also where you can see how these high—res screens are put together. so, here we are in a little dark room here, and it's not quite what i was expecting because there's lots of smaller panels joined together here rather than being one big screen, as you could see from the front. yes, you can modulise it. the more screens you add, the more pixels, the higher resolution of a screen you'll get. that modular design enables quick repairs to be done on the fly. i'll show you how we put everything together. i can simplyjust pull... no way... oh, wow! ..and then everything's connected by a single connector. so if anybody has an accident, it might hit something on a wall, then you might destroy or break one of the panels, we can replace a panel
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very elegantly, very quickly. i thought the whole screen would go off. no. that's amazing. the expandable resolution of these screens means vast virtual worlds can be replicated in a relatively small studio like this one. now, this space is currently only being used to demonstrate the potential of the technology to filmmakers and others in the industry. but sony has a full—size vp studio already up and running in paris, the first of its kind in europe, and on a considerably larger scale than the one at pinewood. but with new technology also comes new challenges. the main skill set you need to have in this industry is problem—solving. you know, you can't search on the internet — "why this does not work?" because you might very well be the first person doing it. what do you think the future is for technologies like this? it could be used to preview visual effects on set without the led, it could be if you've got a virtual creature, for example, a monster, and you need to see where your eyeline is. so it's really a whole family
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of technologies which is combining the virtual and real worlds to aid filmmakers in the creative process, and also reopen that collaboration that may be lost in a green screen environment. in a few years, i'm sure we won't even have the led wall anymore because we'll be taken out automatically. laughs we'll all be in vr or something. exactly, yes! this has only been a small—scale example of what virtual production can do. it's unlikely we'll be seeing the end of green screen or cgi in movies any time soon, but it does provide another tool for directors and cinematographers to achieve their vision. lots of people working in the artistic space turn to software from adobe to edit videos, or to enhance sound. the company, like many others at artificial intelligence features to its products, and in this case,
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photo shop to let designers make changes injust a photo shop to let designers make changes in just a few clicks. it’s changes in “ust a few clicks. it's auoin to changes in just a few clicks. it's going to be _ changes in just a few clicks. it�*s going to be super helpful for photographers. going to be super helpful for photographers-_ going to be super helpful for photographers. speeding up the rocess. photographers. speeding up the process- it _ photographers. speeding up the process- it is — photographers. speeding up the process. it is really, _ photographers. speeding up the process. it is really, really - process. it is really, really impressive _ process. it is really, really impressive.— process. it is really, really impressive. process. it is really, really imressive. , , , ., impressive. these designers and photographers — impressive. these designers and photographers are _ impressive. these designers and photographers are trying - impressive. these designers and photographers are trying out - impressive. these designers and| photographers are trying out new features in the photoshop software. one of the pictures are to vote it was just one of the pictures are to vote it wasjust adding a one of the pictures are to vote it was just adding a little one of the pictures are to vote it wasjust adding a little bit one of the pictures are to vote it was just adding a little bit extra to the edge because i had not quite cropped the image exactly how i wanted to, so ijust added some additional campus on the side and it also killed in the bottom of the woman stress. == also killed in the bottom of the woman stress.— also killed in the bottom of the woman stress. -- filled in. it uses artificial intelligence _ woman stress. -- filled in. it uses artificial intelligence to _ woman stress. -- filled in. it uses artificial intelligence to change - artificial intelligence to change how the picture looks, adding bits, taking stuff away, or even creating whole new parts to the background. it is the latest software putting ai into peoples hands. we it is the latest software putting ai into peoples hands.— into peoples hands. we are accelerating _ into peoples hands. we are accelerating faster - into peoples hands. we are accelerating faster than - into peoples hands. we are accelerating faster than we | into peoples hands. we are - accelerating faster than we thought. the project firefly, our foundational model for imaging is
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the fastest data we have got and we have intimated that as a with a feature — have intimated that as a with a feature and the adoption has been inspiring _ feature and the adoption has been inspiring for us. and you're going to see _ inspiring for us. and you're going to see as— inspiring for us. and you're going to see as we keep introducing it, i thihi
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want to make it look like i am the only one here at this historic site. i'm only one here at this historic site. i'm going — only one here at this historic site. i'm going to— only one here at this historic site. i'm going to use generative fill. i'm going to use generative fill. i'm not— i'm going to use generative fill. i'm not going to put anything in there _ i'm not going to put anything in there because ijust want to remove it. generate, and this uses this technology, the magic happens on the back end. _ technology, the magic happens on the back end, to remove these people. with a _ back end, to remove these people. with a good internet connection, it takes just 20 seconds for paul �*s changes to take effect. not only is he able to take away from his photo, he able to take away from his photo, he can totally change the appearance, and in the adobe express app appearance, and in the adobe express app he can even create unique images and graphics, like this cake, from just words. you've been a designerfor years. how long would it have taken you previously to put together something like this? it previously to put together something like this? ., , ., , , previously to put together something like this? ., , ., , .,~ like this? it would probably take all da . like this? it would probably take all day- again. _ like this? it would probably take all day. again, i've _ like this? it would probably take all day. again, i've been - like this? it would probably take all day. again, i've been doing l like this? it would probably take i all day. again, i've been doing this 20 years — all day. again, i've been doing this 20 years. where we are at now, generating — 20 years. where we are at now, generating this type of content, i have _ generating this type of content, i have not— generating this type of content, i have not seen in 20 years. do you not worry — have not seen in 20 years. do you not worry then — have not seen in 20 years. do you not worry then that _ have not seen in 20 years. do you not worry then that it _ have not seen in 20 years. do you not worry then that it de-skilled l not worry then that it de—skilled people? i
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not worry then that it de-skilled eo - le? . not worry then that it de-skilled eo . le? ., , , not worry then that it de-skilled ..eole? ., , , not worry then that it de-skilled n-eole? ., , , ., people? i mean, yes, it could also at the end — people? i mean, yes, it could also at the end of— people? i mean, yes, it could also at the end of the _ people? i mean, yes, it could also at the end of the day, _ people? i mean, yes, it could also at the end of the day, i'm - people? i mean, yes, it could also at the end of the day, i'm a - at the end of the day, i'm a designer~ _ at the end of the day, i'm a designer. i feel like at the end of the day, i'm a designer. ifeel like i know which choices— designer. ifeel like i know which choices to — designer. ifeel like i know which choices to make. personally, i feel like i_ choices to make. personally, i feel like i have — choices to make. personally, i feel like i have spent less time pushing around _ like i have spent less time pushing around pixels and more time making creative _ around pixels and more time making creative decisions. i�*ve around pixels and more time making creative decisions.— creative decisions. i've never met an one, creative decisions. i've never met anyone. whether _ creative decisions. i've never met anyone, whether they _ creative decisions. i've never met anyone, whether they be - creative decisions. i've never met anyone, whether they be a - creative decisions. i've never met - anyone, whether they be a knowledge worker or a creative professional who has told me they would like to take an hour to do something they can do in five minutes, and i am a firm believer in human ingenuity and this is going to augment human creativity stop it is a co—pilot. that's the appropriate expression for this kind of technology. i think it is going to allow millions, if not billions of people, to engage in the field. but not billions of people, to engage in the field. �* ., , , not billions of people, to engage in the field. �* .,, , , the field. but opening up this level of photomanipulation _ the field. but opening up this level of photomanipulation trillions - the field. but opening up this level of photomanipulation trillions of i of photomanipulation trillions of people comes with concerns about disinformation. fake and altered pictures being used to trick people and cause harm. there has been a huge acceleration in this and it will keep accelerating. are you worried about where it is going, or
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are you confident that you have got the right safeguards in place a question mark in all of our products, we have content credentials, so when you create a piece of content you can digitally sign it. i piece of content you can digitally sin it. ~' ., , piece of content you can digitally siunit. ~' , , sign it. i think the last step in that process, _ sign it. i think the last step in that process, which _ sign it. i think the last step in that process, which we - sign it. i think the last step in that process, which we still . sign it. i think the last step in i that process, which we still need sign it. i think the last step in - that process, which we still need to do, is engage with the customer. the consumer who is actually consuming that content. training them to look for that content credential. they need to understand who created the content and where it might have been altered. the consumer needs to verify and then trust. i think that is still education that is ahead of us, but the good news is the building blocks are in place. for the photographers and designers that we have been speaking to, there is a nervous excitement about what we can do with this tech. it’s nervous excitement about what we can do with this tech.— do with this tech. it's going to be interesting _ do with this tech. it's going to be interesting to _ do with this tech. it's going to be interesting to see _ do with this tech. it's going to be interesting to see where - do with this tech. it's going to be interesting to see where it - do with this tech. it's going to be interesting to see where it goes. interesting to see where it goes from here. istill think interesting to see where it goes from here. i still think that there will be a need and a want for people
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to have natural —looking images, though. i don't think, like family photography is going to go away entirely because we are documenting memories and people want those genuine emotions. and maybe even more so now. they could become a trend where you have these anti—ai photographers, where everything is more documentary style, and that's what people are looking for. it's going to be fun. sticking with adobe, the uk �*s competition watchdog says its initial probe into the company �*s purchase of the design firm sigma has found it may reduce innovation. adobe says it has no meaningful plans to compete in the project and design world. meta has revealed threads. it lets users connect with instagram
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followers and friends, post text and video updates, and may be interoperable with social networks interoperable with social networks in future. it interoperable with social networks in future. , , , ., interoperable with social networks in future. , , , . . in future. it is very similar and operates _ in future. it is very similar and operates very _ in future. it is very similar and operates very similar - in future. it is very similar and operates very similar to - in future. it is very similar and | operates very similar to twitter in future. it is very similar and - operates very similar to twitter and i think that's clearly strategic because it wants people who are coming away from twitter and are fed up coming away from twitter and are fed up with elon musk to find something familiar and up with elon musk to find something familiarand take on up with elon musk to find something familiar and take on what they have already started elsewhere. the chinese government is tightening controls over expos of two key materials. they are used to make computer chips. it comes after us efforts to curb chinese access to some advanced microprocessors. and finally, a robot conductor took to the stage in south korea to lead the country's national orchestra. it's 60 plus musicians had a sell—out performance.
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billions of people around the world are using apps to send secure messages every day. whatsapp, eye messa . es, messages every day. whatsapp, eye messages, android, _ messages every day. whatsapp, eye messages, android, it'll— messages every day. whatsapp, eye messages, android, it'll uses- messages, android, it'll uses end—to—end encryption. other popular apps like telegram and messenger also offer the feature. by the end of 2023, mehta says messenger will switch over to full end—to—end encryption as standard, so all text, media and calls will be end—to—end. if privacy focused messaging platform has to be encrypted. m50 platform has to be encrypted. also lans to platform has to be encrypted. also plans to roll— platform has to be encrypted. also plans to roll it _ platform has to be encrypted. also plans to roll it out _ platform has to be encrypted. also plans to roll it out for _ platform has to be encrypted. i"r plans to roll it out for instagram direct messages and 20 is also building end—to—end in whatsapp —— twitter. governments are increasingly worried. it is because of how clever the secure technology is. let's say that i am the server of an internet company. these people are trying to send messages. sending readable information over the internet is a
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pretty bad idea. anyone that intercepts messages could read them. these days, nearly all the information we share over the internet is encrypted, which means it is scrambled, and therefore protected from prying eyes. a bit like putting a note in a locked box. the messages are protected when they leave us, processed by the app server, and then sent on to the recipient. but, with most forms of encryption, the company can unscramble this data. they have the keys to read our messages. at any point, the company can open up our chat history and share them with others. for example, the police. criminals are routinely caught and prosecuted because police are able to access messages in this way. hackers are sometimes able to access our unsecured data. end—to—end encryption goes a step further. messages are encrypted, but only the sender and the receiver have access
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to the keys. it is like sending a box that only you have the key to open. this messages are protected, even from the app company, which means that end—to—end encryption protects your texts, media and calls from everyone, internet companies, hackers, even police. this from everyone, internet companies, hackers, even police.— hackers, even police. this means that people _ hackers, even police. this means that people can — hackers, even police. this means that people can truly _ hackers, even police. this means that people can truly exercise - hackers, even police. this means. that people can truly exercise their i’ilht that people can truly exercise their right to _ that people can truly exercise their right to freedom of expression, right— right to freedom of expression, right to — right to freedom of expression, right to privacy, without fear of unwarranted surveillance, whether by the private _ unwarranted surveillance, whether by the private sector or the public sector~ — the private sector or the public sector~ at— the private sector or the public sector. at the moment, we allow any kind of— sector. at the moment, we allow any kind of access to end—to—end communications. there is no way to ensure _ communications. there is no way to ensure that — communications. there is no way to ensure that only the people that we want to— ensure that only the people that we want to be — ensure that only the people that we want to be accessing these communications will do so because it is effectively a security vulnerability that could be misused by a range — vulnerability that could be misused by a range of malicious actors, with an sunni _ by a range of malicious actors, with an sunni state or non—state, so it's important — an sunni state or non—state, so it's important not to enable any kind of access— important not to enable any kind of access at— important not to enable any kind of access at all. but important not to enable any kind of access at all-— access at all. but as ever with technology. — access at all. but as ever with technology, privacy _ access at all. but as ever with technology, privacy and - access at all. but as ever with i technology, privacy and security
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collide. the so—called five eyes countries are all against the technology. japan, india, turkey, bangladesh, braziland technology. japan, india, turkey, bangladesh, brazil and the european union have all expressed concerns, too, with some exploring laws to control the apps. in countries with strict internet rules like china, many end—to—end encryption products are already banned. what many end-to-end encryption products are already banned.— are already banned. what is concerning _ are already banned. what is concerning is _ are already banned. what is concerning is that _ are already banned. what is concerning is that if - are already banned. what is l concerning is that if platforms are already banned. what is - concerning is that if platforms make the design choice to roll out end—to—end encryption, we risk losing the vast majority of that data that is used to find the perpetrators and protect children. it is a debate that has now raged for years, with neither side wanting to budge. for years, with neither side wanting to budue. ., .., . for years, with neither side wanting to budue. ., . ., , to budge. you concede that there is harm, to budge. you concede that there is harm. correct? _ to budge. you concede that there is harm, correct? i— to budge. you concede that there is harm, correct? i concede _ to budge. you concede that there is harm, correct? i concede that - to budge. you concede that there is harm, correct? i concede that there are trade-offs _ harm, correct? i concede that there are trade-offs and _ harm, correct? i concede that there are trade-offs and that _ harm, correct? i concede that there are trade-offs and that there - harm, correct? i concede that there are trade-offs and that there are i are trade—offs and that there are challenges to law enforcement. of course my heart goes out to the victims... course my heart goes out to the victims- - -_ course my heart goes out to the victims... �* ., ,., , victims... i'm not so interested in our victims... i'm not so interested in your heart. _ victims... i'm not so interested in your heart, actually. _ victims... i'm not so interested in your heart, actually. many - victims... i'm not so interested in| your heart, actually. many security forces and politicians _ your heart, actually. many security forces and politicians around - your heart, actually. many security forces and politicians around the i forces and politicians around the world are calling on tech companies to introduce some sort of technical back door end—to—end encrypted apps.
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a way for police to gain access to messages if they suspect criminal activity. another solution is client side scanning. it doesn't videos are scanned by an app whilst on the sender �*s device to check the content against a database of illegal material, for example child abuse imagery. client side scanning was famously suggested by apple on its devices to combat the spread and storage of child abuse material. but the idea was dropped after a huge backlash from privacy campaigners, worried about the misuse of potentially invasive technology by criminals, or even oppressive governments. in spite of the concerns, more and more companies are turning to the tech, saying it is crucial to protect customer data. and one thing that is true but never really talked about by the technology companies, is that end—to—end encryption takes away a big chunk of the thorny and costly issue of content moderation. if they can't see what are sending to each other, they can't moderated.
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now, no matter how well—intentioned our reuse and recycling programmes are, we are still creating hundreds of millions of tons of new plastic every year. so we're clearly quite a long way from solving our plastic problem. there's definitely no simple solution, but what some companies are doing with a spot of science can be pretty mind—blowing. we are a generation demanding change. whether we like it or not, we're going to have a lot of plastic for the foreseeable. whilst it definitely has its negative side—effects, it's also important to recognise that it's a pretty amazing material that has enabled so much. lara: a major issue is that all of the plastic that's ever been created still exists in some form somewhere. one of the companies that's revolutionising plastic has been creating products that will biodegrade in certain conditions. like in heat, air,
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moisture or sunlight. the aim is to return the material back into nature — well, as much as they possibly can, anyway. polymateria's plastic alternative has been around for a few years now. it's used for food packaging and some cups. but now, the company is moving into a slightly different type of material. in fact, replacing what's used in some products that you might not even know was plastic in the first place. think face masks, women's hygiene products or wipes. what we're doing for wipes, diapers, teabags, they all have their unique use case, if you want, and also, time frame within which we would want biodegradation to happen. how does the transformation process actually work? there's three core things. the time control piece, that's the self—destructing part, so that's something that at point of manufacture, we can dial that up or dial that down. so literally within a couple of weeks, it's taking it from its plastic—like state into its wax—like state. but that's not where it stops. the third thing we are doing as we make that wax
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draw in microbes and fungi and bacteria, and that is the way we are able to get those materials fully back to nature in less than a year. well, they seem just the same as the plastic version. they feel the same, they look the same — but once they start to transform, that's when things are very different. beeping and this is what it looks like. it's very, very soft and, apparently, is completely harmless. it looks like powder, but sort of disappears. i wanted to show you how a biotransformed wax looked like and felt like versus a microplastic. and that's what you've touched a bit before, and we've put that in this vial to show you how it behaves when you heat it slightly. now, it's completely melting and you can see that the other bit of plastic is completely the same. as i would expect — it stays just the same.
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itjust looks the same. and now, if i take this one, and i tilt it, it flows like a candle. what you will have in nature is that you will have a bottle, biotransforming and becoming a wax, and that wax will then be fully biodegraded, like a banana peel or apple core, by nature. we've looked at other companies before who are trying to solve the plastic problem. what is it about your products that means they can actually do the job? we've published more papers in the space than anyone else, so we put our data out there to be rigorously reviewed by other experts in the field. but what we're trying to do is create something that is capable of moving the needle on a 100 million ton per annum problem. they are continuing to develop the technology, and while there's no silver bullet, there are alternatives being worked on. founded by 22—year—old jacob nathan, epoch biodesign is looking to change the way plastic is broken down. we design enzymes that break down plastic waste. and the resulting chemicals that we make from that,
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we can manufacture into all sorts of new products like paints, coatings, fertilisers, cleaning products and, ultimately, new plastic. the beauty of biology is that it enables us to carry out chemical reactions at very, very low temperatures, and so we can use enzymes that enable these sorts of chemical reactions to happen at very low temperatures and pressures to break down those plastics into those building blocks to make those new plastics again. there are two sides to this equation — one is we make way too much of the stuff, but the other is we don't actually know what to do with most of it once we're done using it, right. even if we stopped making plastics tomorrow, we still have 10 billion tons that are just sort of sitting around, taking up space, and we might want to do something with that. wow, that's pretty impressive to see bits of that cup turn to wax like that. i know — when it was still in cup form, i kept tapping it to check it was properly solid, and it was! laughs well, listen, that's it for the shortcut of click
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for this week. thanks for watching. we'll see you soon. bye! hello. storm clouds bubbling up. not as many as we saw through yesterday. and still pleasant enough in the sunshine. but through the week ahead, even in the sunny moments, it will start to feel a bit cooler out there. all of us will still see some rain at times, some more than others, admittedly, and it will be a little bit breezier. and that's because we've got low pressure out towards the west at the moment. circulation of cloud here, which will transfer its way northwards and eastwards. this band of cloud is what brought the rain early in the day across east anglia southeast and will linger across orkney into the evening. elsewhere, as i said, more sunshine this evening. a few showers particularly through wales, northern england,
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northern ireland, some of those heavy and thundery. but even this evening, temperatures still in the low twenties. showers for a time through tonight, but they will gradually fade away. heavy rain in shetland clearing too, and tonight will be a little bit fresher again compared with last night. some rural spots down into single figures, but most places still in double figures as we start the monday morning commute. and it will be a sunny one for the vast majority, but quickly clouding over south west england and wales, outbreaks of heavy and potentially thundery rain pushing in here as we go through the morning. a few showers breaking out through scotland, northern ireland. again, some of those thundery, especially to the northeast of scotland. but longer spells of rain that's in wales will gradually transfer north west midlands and in the afternoon into parts of northern england and it could have a big impact. of course, if a cricket is still going. certainly winds freshening up a little bit. but whilst you've got the sunshine out and fewer showers, east anglia south east could see temperatures higher than today. elsewhere, roughly on paths, we're feeling cooler
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where that rain is falling. the rain fizzles into more showery conditions through monday night to the north. but in the south, more persistent rain returns wales and across central and southern england to take us into tuesday. that may be slow to clear the south east corner on tuesday. other than that, it's back to sunshine, heavy and thundery showers, most frequent during the afternoon in scotland, northern ireland and the north of england. bit of sunshine in between, but temperatures starting to drop, winds going more west to north westerly and that temperature drop will continue further through the second half of the week as our low pressure pushes its way off towards norway. winds going to a more north or north westerly direction, especially for scotland for a time. so temperatures will drop here. further north you are, showers most frequent, heaviest for the south, you are fewer showers at times. temperatures still in the low 20s here and temperatures in the north of scotland, only the mid—teens at highest.
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will be investigated live from london. live from london. this is bbc news. crisis at the corporation — crisis at the corporation — the director general talks the director general talks to the culture secretary over claims to the culture secretary over claims a presenter paid a teenager for sexually explicit images. a presenter paid a teenager
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