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being welcomed at windsor castle by king charles. earlier, mr biden met prime minister rishi sunak in downing street, describing the us—uk relationship as "rock solid". the un's weather agency says it is extremely worried about record high temperatures recorded recently around the planet after the hottestjune ever. and the kremlin says the wagner boss, yevgeny prigozhin, met vladimir putin five days after he led a failed mutiny. hello, welcome to verified live, three hours of breaking stories, and checking out the truth behind them. we start here in the uk where — us presidentjoe biden has held the us presidentjoe biden has held metropolitan polic making the metropolitan police say they making further inquiries are whether a bbc presenter allegedly paid a teenager physically explicit photos committed a criminal offense.
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discussing today but they said there is no investigation at this time. we can go straight to scotland yard and speak to our correspondent who was there for us now. what more can you tell us? i there for us now. what more can you tell us? ~ �* , there for us now. what more can you tellus? ~ �*, ., tell us? i think it's probably worth remindin: tell us? i think it's probably worth reminding our— tell us? i think it's probably worth reminding our viewers _ tell us? i think it's probably worth reminding our viewers as - tell us? i think it's probably worth reminding our viewers as you - reminding our viewers as you mentioned, the allegation against the bbc presenter is that he paid a teenagerfrom the bbc presenter is that he paid a teenager from the the bbc presenter is that he paid a teenagerfrom the age the bbc presenter is that he paid a teenager from the age of 17 years old tens of thousands of pounds in exchange for explicit photographs. under the protection of children act, 1978 it is a crime to take, make, share or possess indecent images of people under 18. and the mother of this individual in an interview with these sun newspaper said that her child was 17 years old at the time the payments began to be made by the television presenter.
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the met plea statement, which we heard in last hour as you mentioned there, we knew that the met and representatives from the bbc would be meeting at some stage today but we have had confirmation now that they met this morning i'll be at virtually. and they met detectives who were from the met specialist crime command met with representatives from the bbc, we don't know who those representatives were but clearly discussions took place between the met and the bbc. it would have been an opportunity for the corporation if they felt they had any information that they thought might be relevant to the police, that would've been the time during those discussions for them to hand that information over. but that statement from the metropolitan police of the last hour and half or so is that firstly, is no
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investigation at this stage following that meeting. secondly, what detectives are now going to do is take away that information that was discussed during the meeting, there are going to assess that information. they will go away and take time to do that. they will also say that they will carry out further inquiries to establish whether there is evidence of a criminal offence been committed. no investigation announced by the metropolitan police at this stage. but that could change. it depends of course where they get to assessing the information they received today and further inquiries that they carry out. it is important to stress that these are just allegations against these are just allegations against the bbc presenter at this stage. he might be entirely innocent of the claims being made against him. but
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no investigation at the stage with what we don't know when we will next here from the metropolitan police for that we could potentially hair from the bbc in terms of how that meeting took place from their point of view for that we're not sure whether they will be putting out a statement later on today.- whether they will be putting out a statement later on today. thank you ve much statement later on today. thank you very much for— statement later on today. thank you very much for that _ statement later on today. thank you very much for that update. - statement later on today. thank you very much for that update. no - very much for that update. no investigation when it comes to the allegations around the bbc presenter. but police are investigating at least one complaint about unfounded allegations circulating on social media. mark stevens is a media lawyer given us his assessment of the possible legal action that may follow on that. the law really falls _ action that may follow on that. tue law really falls into action that may follow on that. tte law really falls into two action that may follow on that. ttj: law really falls into two parts. firstly, we have a thing called twitter libel that means any communication which is defamatory on social media can be sued on. and of course there was a long speculation that they don't have to say is that
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individual. you can say, i think it might be this individual. if you say it might be this individual and you are wrong as most of them are then in those circumstances what you are doing is inferring that that is the sort of individual that would do this kind of thing. so it's obviously defamatory. in the more serious cases you do get malicious communication. one of the issues is been that a number of the well—known individuals and indeed some of the lesser—known individuals who were in this at the beginning denied it. and people on social media continue to troll them. they continue to make the allegation and repeat the allegation in the teeth of that denial. that starts to get to a criminal offence that's obviously what the police are looking at, malicious communications because you are not accepting the denial. in those circumstances i think there will be complaints from all of the
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individuals who are at the epicentre of this now. i've seen examples on social media of people not accepting them and continuing to troll them. so nikki campbell appears to have made a complaint but i think it won't be long before all of the other individuals who are named and abused on the basis that there was speculation, unfounded speculation that it was them, i think there will be police investigations into that too. essentially, we can't confuse the two things. you've got a group of innocent people who are entitled to take twitter libel, defamation cases and also to report most egregious ones to the police for criminal investigation for malicious communication. on the other side you've got a complaint that was made by this individuals family and of course you've got the privacy concerns, which both of them are
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entitled to, both the gentleman involved and also the person about whom the complaint is made. they are entitled to privacy, they have a reasonable expectation that this would not be conducted and it would not be speculation in the public demand for stop does a very good reason for that. the good reason is that you don't want people trampling through the evidence of this. you want that to be pristine or as pristine as it can be so that when the investigation takes place it can be fair to all parties.— be fair to all parties. around the world and _ be fair to all parties. around the world and across _ be fair to all parties. around the world and across the _ be fair to all parties. around the world and across the uk - be fair to all parties. around the world and across the uk this - be fair to all parties. around the i world and across the uk this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines here in the uk. a second eight—year—old girl has died from her injuries after a car crash in southwest london. the incident happened on thursday, the met please name the second fatality, the family described her as a light of our lives. a review into failing
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to maternity care in nottingham is set to become the largest in the uk. the chair of the inquiry is expected to announce that 1700 families will have their cases examined, dozens of babies are known to have died or suffered lifelong injuries as a result of poor maternity care in the maternity dating back more than a decade. easyjets counsel the act cancelled 1700 flights during the july, august and september. the company blamed constraint airspace of europe and ongoing air traffic control difficulties it's at 95% of affected passengers had been rebooked on other flights. affected passengers had been rebooked on otherflights. those affected passengers had been rebooked on other flights. those are your headlines. you are alive with bbc news. staying in the uk. king charles is held talk with presidentjoe biden. the main topic was climate change amongst pop and ceremony earlier
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rishi sunak with ukraine on the agenda. the president described the us, uk relationship is rock—solid with mr sunak us, uk relationship is rock—solid with mrsunak adding us, uk relationship is rock—solid with mr sunak adding that the two countries were the furthest allies. mr barton's visit came out of a nato summit which gets under way in lithuania tomorrow. both mr biden and mr sunak lithuania tomorrow. both mr biden and mrsunak will lithuania tomorrow. both mr biden and mr sunak will be there. my colleague sentences update from windsor on the substance of the talks they are in the mood surrounding them. it's been a very warm and sunny day here in windsor. warm is very much the feeling that you got when you watched these two men greet each other in the quadrangle on the grounds of windsor castle. a very warm handshake between presidentjoe biden and king charles iii. this is the first attempted to have met since the coronation in may. joe biden of course did attend the funeral of queen elizabeth ii but he did not attend the coronation in may for the his wife jill attend the coronation in may for the his wifejill biden was on instead.
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the two men had a lot to talk about and they have a lot in common. climate finance and the battle to save the climate and the environment very much the focal point for these two men. when they walked into windsor castle they were met and greeted by a group of philanthropic and finance leaders, climate finance leaders to talk through ways in which they could try to combat the problems issued by climate change. a little bit earlier we were standing around here in the immediate area and the climate envoy, the special climate envoy for the us john climate envoy for the usjohn kerry came on a walkabout and started talking to a few police officers on mounted horses. we stopped him and asked him a little bit about how things today went. have a listen. finally maybe people are realising, this is real. and it's going to get worse. unless we move rapidly to be able to accelerate the transition. you know, it's a very simple problem.
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emissions from the burning of fossilfuel is creating the climate crisis. and so you have two choices. you either capture those emissions and put them away so they can't harm anybody, or you don't put them up there in the first place. that's the choice governments all around the world face now, that's what we discussed earlier today and then passed on to the president. we have several trillions of dollars of assets that are managed and deployed represented in the group that met today. all people who are deeply committed to dealing with the climate crisis, who are being responsible. and who are funding new technologies, new ways of doing things. climate change and helping the environment is something close to both men's hearts. really brought them together today. for decades and decades playing such an important role in exerting the uk soft power
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but also in making sure that that special relationship as is often called between the us and the uk keeps bubbling over. i think many people who you would speak to about today's events would agree with me when i say that it felt very much like a success. president biden in the afternoon after his meeting boarded air force one and flew over to lithuania where he will attend the nato summit which begins tomorrow. from here in back to you in the studio. we can cross to washington, dc and speak to our correspondentjessica parker. what correspondent jessica parker. what is correspondentjessica parker. what is the view from washington on today's events? t is the view from washington on today's events?— is the view from washington on today's events? i think the special relationship _ today's events? i think the special relationship which _ today's events? i think the special relationship which we _ today's events? i think the special relationship which we talk - today's events? i think the special relationship which we talk about i relationship which we talk about time and time again whenever president needs prime minister. i think that phrase, that term is agonised over a little bit more in the uk than it is here in the us. i think for president biden who obviously didn't go to king charles
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is coronation, it's been an important moment for him to meet the king at windsor. of course something of a photo opportunity, a bit of context of course is that next year as many people will know there's going to be a presidential election and joe biden very much plans on being the democratic nominee. in most republican candidates here who want the republican nomination slug it out, it's a known tactic of the incumbent president who want to appear statesman—like so doing things like meeting them monarch and some fascination here in the us with the british royal family some fascination here in the us with the british royalfamily and go around meeting world leaders, showing they're getting the business done for example in trying to keep drumming up support for ukraine as the counteroffensive of the uk and is carrying out grinds on. haifa is carrying out grinds on. how is this being _ is carrying out grinds on. how is this being covered _ is carrying out grinds on. how is this being covered in _ is carrying out grinds on. how is this being covered in the - is carrying out grinds on. how is this being covered in the us? is| this being covered in the us? is there more focus on the royal meeting rather than the prime ministerial one? t
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meeting rather than the prime ministerial one?— meeting rather than the prime ministerial one? i think a lot of the focus _ ministerial one? i think a lot of the focus is _ ministerial one? i think a lot of the focus is looking _ ministerial one? i think a lot of the focus is looking ahead - ministerial one? i think a lot of- the focus is looking ahead to nato. because it's an important stop off obviously for president biden to meet prime minister rishi sunak and to meet king charles. but it is a stop off on the way to what is being seen as a crucial summit where there have been lots of discussions here about what support they will be for ukraine, obviously over the weekend we had the announcement the us will be sending cluster bombs, controversially to ukraine to aid in its effort as they run low on ammunition. but also the question of future ukrainian membership of nato. and speaking to cnn in the last few days president biden said he didn't think that ukraine was ready but it needs to be some sort of rational path. some members of nato will agree with him, like germany. there is hesitation about trying to do any kind of fast track membership, particularly while a country is
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actively at war. we know there are particularly eastern states in europe who really want to give ukraine encouragement, a morale boost and look at how the sorts of processes can be speeded up. we saw the same pattern with european union when ukraine was given candidate status with some countries were hesitant, didn't want to create a sense of false hope in a way and others were much keener tojust really try and push that process on as quickly as possible. do really try and push that process on as quickly as possible.— really try and push that process on as quickly as possible. do stay with us. we're looking _ as quickly as possible. do stay with us. we're looking at _ as quickly as possible. do stay with us. we're looking at pictures - as quickly as possible. do stay with us. we're looking at pictures now l as quickly as possible. do stay with | us. we're looking at pictures now of air force one as it touches down in villainy is. we may soon see president biden disembarked from the aircraft at the moment we could see... there is the stairs and the red carpet. while we watch those picture let's carry on with our discussions. we talked a lot about ukraine but there are other issues that you work in west minister as
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well. that dominates the conversation between the us and the uk. a couple of years ago after brexit there was a lot of talk about the us being a real target for a us - uk the us being a real target for a us — uk trade deal. that has sort of got away now, hasn't it? you - uk trade deal. that has sort of got away now, hasn't it? you don't hear that mention _ got away now, hasn't it? you don't hear that mention much _ got away now, hasn't it? you don't hear that mention much anymore. | got away now, hasn't it? you don't - hear that mention much anymore. you are right absolutely. one of the big prizes post—brexit some people talked about was the idea of eight mega trade deal with the united states. it's never been something that president biden appears to be particularly enthusiastic or rushing towards as an idea. when rishi sunak came here quite recently for a visit in the white house and there were more red carpets but all that kind of pomp and ceremony they did announce a kind of more narrow sectoral working together, collaboration r&d type of deals with them i think rishi sunak wanted to sell for that rishi sunak was a brexit supporter of course. wanted
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to sell a deepening of the economic relationship. the individuals have met quite a lot of the past six months. there are various occasions and summits. i think it's quite likely they have now built up something of a report. but that trade deal as you say, notjust elusive but increasinglyjust barely even acknowledge or talked about as any kind or realistic possibility for the time being.— any kind or realistic possibility for the time being. during that visit mr sunak _ for the time being. during that visit mr sunak was _ for the time being. during that visit mr sunak was in _ for the time being. during that i visit mr sunak was in washington for the time being. during that - visit mr sunak was in washington a few weeks ago, there was in atlantic partnership announced and lot of talk about collaboration between the us in the uk when it comes to artificial intelligence. any more on that from today? t artificial intelligence. any more on that from today?— that from today? i haven't heard an hint that from today? i haven't heard anything specifically _ that from today? i haven't heard anything specifically on - that from today? i haven't heard anything specifically on al - that from today? i haven't heard i anything specifically on al between joe biden and rishi sunak today. it doesn't appear to have been the focus was a particularly ahead of the nato summit they will want to really get in step and in line for
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making sure they are on the same page with things. there's been there's, i don't think tension is there's, i don't think tension is the right word but difference between the us. i mentioned before and the uk on the cluster bomb issue. sending bombs to ukraine, the us, which they distribute multiple bomblets, they can linger on the ground a threat to civilians, essentially banned in over a hundred countries including the united kingdom. that's proved a slightly awkward moment. the us has said well, ukraine is running low on ammunition, where trying to along with other allies wrap up production of the standard ammunition they are using. during this transition or repair it we're going to have to give them these more controversial weapons, the us claims there cluster have a lower dud rate as it is known. clearly the focus is going to be trying to present a unified
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front. there are differences within the alliance, whether it is on that issue, on the fact that a minority of nato members are meeting that 2% spending target on defence or indeed trying to get sweden approved as a member of the alliance.— member of the alliance. jessica parker in washington, - member of the alliance. jessica parker in washington, thank. member of the alliance. jessica l parker in washington, thank you member of the alliance. jessica - parker in washington, thank you very much for bringing us up to date on the view from there. we could see the view from there. we could see the pictures they are of air force one in vilnius. you can see the red carpet and it looks like some sort of ceremony which means quite possibly... the red carpet coming out a bit more. we might see president biden coming off that plane shortly. one person who is most definitely in vilnius is my colleague james most definitely in vilnius is my colleaguejames landau. not as glamourous as where you are now, unfortunately for them tell us what we might expect in the next day or so. this is a really important summit, notjust for nato but also
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for the future of european security simply because this is one moment went nato allies want to try and demonstrate their unity and resolve to moscow, that they are going to support ukraine for the long—term. at the moment there's a battle of wills going on. the kremlin, vladimir putin he can outlast, he can out weight the west that he has more strategic patients. and that all he has to do is wait and then western support for ukraine will fracture, countries will get war fatigue, elections in countries and that will change the positions for that will change the positions for that what nato wants to do over the next couple of days here in lithuania is demonstrate to moscow, know that is not true, it is going to give ukraine long—term military support. they are going to be promises and new security guarantees, more military equipment, promises of deeper institutional integration within nato and crucially there will be some new language giving some new indications
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ofjust when and how ukraine might join nato itself. there is not in agreement on that yet, there is still division but they hope to get some kind of language by the end of the summit. there is a bit of a divergence on the when and how as you say of ukraine becoming a nato member. , �* , ., , ., member. there is. it's not 'ust a ruestion member. there is. it's not 'ust a question «ti member. there is. it's not 'ust a question of a i member. there is. it's not 'ust a question of a little �* member. there is. it's not 'ust a question of a little bit h member. there is. it's not 'ust a question of a little bit ofh member. there is. it's notjust a. question of a little bit of language that can be finessed in some kind of communique at the end of summit. it's real definite tactical differences with dubuque at the polls in the baltic states and others in the ukrainian saying, look, we need to have the promise of nato membership clear and explicit. at the moment nato said many years ago in 2008 that we think ukraine should join but they didn't say when or how. that left them in a an uneasy waiting room where they had the promise of membership but none of the protection. that many people say led vladimir putin to think, and he can get away with invading
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ukraine. ukraine and others want to move away from that. other countries the americans, the germans in particular setting look, let's not go too far on this, there's a risk of escalating this conflicts with up there's a risk you give an incentive for russia to drag this war out for them if it's told ukraine will become a member when the war is over, russia will keep a low intensity war going as long as it possibly can. there are also concerns that a more tactical, some nato allies who want to keep nato membership as a key bargaining chip for the post or negotiations that may happen sometime in the future. lots of arguments swirling around. at the moment there is no definitive answer of how they will resolve it. ijust answer of how they will resolve it. i just been answer of how they will resolve it. ijust been reading an article that you've written on the bbc website, you've written on the bbc website, you talk about notjust you've written on the bbc website, you talk about not just about ukraine's membership but you talk about sweden and the discussions around sweden's membership of nato.
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sweden has applied to join around sweden's membership of nato. sweden has applied tojoin nato around sweden's membership of nato. sweden has applied to join nato over a year ago. most countries support it. at the moment you countries have not ratified the decision. what is hungry and wanted turkey. turkey is still playing hardball put up the turks have said we want sweden to do more to crack down on kurdish militants, turkey accuses of being terrorists. sweden has acted on that but the turks say we're still not happy with what they've done. the turks are also hoping to get more military deals with the united states, especially on f—16 fighter aircraft. this afternoon the president on his way here said by the way, if the eu paved the way for turkey to join well then turkey would allow state two sweetie to join nato. which i have to say left a few jaws join nato. which i have to say left a fewjaws dropping in brussels wasn't —— sweden. making it very clear he considers it to issues very separate. as we speak the turkish
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leader and the leader of the sweeting are meeting the nato secretary general yen stoltenberg to see if it's possible to hammer out some kind of a deal that nato would dearly hope to get results that they can demonstrate a bit more unity of the next couple of days. [30 can demonstrate a bit more unity of the next couple of days.— the next couple of days. do stay with us. the next couple of days. do stay with us- we _ the next couple of days. do stay with us. we can _ the next couple of days. do stay with us. we can see _ the next couple of days. do stay with us. we can see pictures - the next couple of days. do stay with us. we can see pictures ofl with us. we can see pictures of president biden coming down the steps of air force one wearing his trademark sunglasses as well. while we're watching these pictures how crucial is this for president biden? 0f crucial is this for president biden? of course remembering that he also has a message to send back home if he wants to win the democratic nomination again.— nomination again. ukraine is actually a — nomination again. ukraine is actually a really _ nomination again. ukraine is actually a really interesting i nomination again. ukraine is - actually a really interesting issue for the americans. on the one hand they are the biggest contributors of military support, they have overwhelmingly invested in supporting this country after its invasion by russia. at the same time president biden is subject to
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political pressures. there are some voices in the united states that does not want to give ukraine a blank check. there are others who say look, should we really be committing more american dollars to ensure europe security? should work not do more, should it not spend more? there are also others in washington who say actually, ukraine is a sideshow, the real focus washington who say actually, ukraine is a sideshow, the realfocus is washington who say actually, ukraine is a sideshow, the real focus is the threat from china. so the us should not be distracted from that. that is something that biden has is the context in any decisions he makes here over the next couple of days. james, do stay with us. you are watching bbc news. welcome back to our coverage here on bbc news. you are watching live pictures asjoe biden has arrived in lithuania in vilnius. he's landed
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there from the uk where early he met king charles and he met prime minister rishi sunak. he is on his way for a nato summit and my colleague, a diplomatic correspondent james landau also colleague, a diplomatic correspondentjames landau also in vilnius covering the events. james, what can we expect from this summit? what is on the agenda over the next few days? what is on the agenda over the next few da s? ~ ., ., few days? whether or not ukraine should become _ few days? whether or not ukraine should become a _ few days? whether or not ukraine should become a member- few days? whether or not ukraine should become a member and - few days? whether or not ukraine i should become a member and what language they use is a big subject. lots of other things to discuss. nato is going to be agreeing a massive new strategy, perhaps a radical new strategy since the end of the cold war about how to deal with the long term threat from russia. in recent years they have had small pockets of western allied troops in different parts of eastern europe. acting as a kind of trip wire so that if russia were ever to invade that would trigger a military
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response. what they are now... in light of what happened in ukraine they realise they simply have to have more numbers on the ground. they are going to be beefing up their true presence, hopefully a brigade in each of the eight countries bordering russia on the eastern flank. it's going to be very specifically tasks given to individual countries for the for example here lithuania this is going to be where germany sends a large number of troops. they've been doing a lot of exercises of the last few days with the other countries are now under pressure to increase their own numbers. that's going to be a pretty big change for more internal for nato and the way reforms things it's essentially saying look, the way you detour and defend against future russian aggression is not just to say we might send troops there, we will have troops there, they will make it a very costly invasion if it happens. it means that russia will not win because they think that is the only way to deter that kind of action in the
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future. issues like that, they will agree a new beefed—up version of how much money they should spend on defense. at the moment there is a 2% figure. that's a promise to spend in ambition at least to spend to present their national wealth on defense. that is going to become not in ambition but actually a basic minimum, we think. it's going to be that every country has to meet for that every country has to meet for that at the moment there are large number of nato countries that do not meet that target. other issues, talking about how to approach china and things like that but that's the broad summary. the overwhelming idea is just to be as united and resolved as possible when it comes to the long—term military support of ukraine so that the kremlin gets the message. ukraine so that the kremlin gets the messaue. , . , ukraine so that the kremlin gets the messae. �* ., , ., ., ukraine so that the kremlin gets the messaue. �* ., , ., ., ., ukraine so that the kremlin gets the messae. , ., , ., ., ., , message. james landau who will be coverin: message. james landau who will be covering the — message. james landau who will be covering the nato _ message. james landau who will be covering the nato summary - message. james landau who will be covering the nato summary over - message. james landau who will be| covering the nato summary over the coming days thank you very much. the pictures you are looking at now are the crewman has confirmed the president putin met the head 0 are pictures you are looking at now are joe biden who is on the tarmac. he's joe biden who he will be landed into vilnius where he will be
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attending a nato summit. it's been landed into vilnius where he will be attending a nato summit. it's been quite a day for him. he started the landed into vilnius where he will be attending a nato su he it. it's been landed into vilnius where he will be attending a nato su he started een morning meeting british prime landed into vilnius where he will be attending a nato su he started the quite a day for him. he started the morning meeting british prime minister rishi sunak at downing minister over street. then he headed over to windsor castle where he met king charles. now he is here in vilnius windsor castle where he met king charles. now he is here in for a nato summit, which could it be interesting and tricky. the main for a nato summit, which could it be interesting and tricky. focus will of course be ukraine and for a nato summit, which could it be interesting and tric be ukraine and there have been some disagreements over resident bidens decision to there have been some disagreements over resident bidens decision send cluster bombs, cluster munitions to ukraine. also the there have been some disagreements subject of ukraine's desire to join over resident bidens talso >n the nato alliance and also of course there have been some disagreements will be very high on the agenda. in ove nato ient bidens talso >n the foreground of that chart you can will be very high on the agenda. in the foreground of that chart you also see the us secretary of state entity blinken who is also shaking hands and meeting people the crewman has confirmed the
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