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�*nothing inappropriate or unlawful took place'. and the claims published in the sun are rubbish. president biden touches down and look for when he offered today summit of nato leaders. hello, welcome to the daily global, where we ll bring you the top stories from around the world. we begin here in london. new information has emerged concerning allegations that a bbc presenter paid a teenager tens of thousands of pounds for sexually explicit images. the young person, now aged 20, is claiming via a lawyer nothing the lawyer has issued a statement. for the amount the lawyer has issued a statement. for the amount of the lawyer has issued a statement. for the amount of doubt the lawyer has issued a statement. for the amount of doubt nothing inappropriate or ticket place between our client and the bbc personality for that the allegations reported in the sun newspaper are
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rubbish. a short time ago the sun issued a statement it said... we have reported a story about two very concerned parents who made a complaint to the bbc about the behaviour of a presenter and the welfare of their child. meanwhile the police say that they are making further inquiries to establish whether a criminal offence has been committed. there is currently no investigation underway. the male presenter who has been suspended has not yet been named. let's get the very latest. our correspondent helen wilkinson is in the newsroom. just outlined for us the newsroom. just outlined for us the most recent available developments in detail. i the most recent available developments in detail. the most recent available develoments in detail. ~ developments in detail. i think when the various first _ developments in detail. i think when the various first emerged _ developments in detail. i think when the various first emerged in - developments in detail. i think when the various first emerged in the - developments in detail. i think when the various first emerged in the sun | the various first emerged in the sun newspaper there were many many questions. it feels like there are
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even more questions now following this latest development. the bbc he received a letter as you've been mentioning from the lawyer representing a young person who is at the centre of the bbc presenter allegations. and has disputed their mothers account of events. now, if the lawyer claims is true it could potentially throw some doubt on the claims that have been made in the attitude newspaper and have dominated the headlines over the weekend going into today. and will no doubt continue for many days, perhaps weeks to come. in the letter from the lawyer representing the young person it says that the young person sent a denial to the sun newspaper on friday evening. this is before the paper published the article via whatsapp saying the statement their mother made it to the newspaper was and i quote"
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totally wrong and there was no truth totally wrong and there was no truth to it. "nonetheless the lawyer said the sun newspaper continued and went ahead and published what the lawyer describes as their inappropriate article. let me read you a bit more from the letter from the lawyer, it continues for the avoidance of doubt it says, nothing inappropriate or unlawful has taken place between our clients and the bbc personality and the allegations reported in the sun newspaper are rubbish. bbc news does not know the identity of the young person and has not spoken to them directly. very soon after we reported that letter the sun newspaper who has been the paper who has been publishing these stories, these allegations from the mother has said in a statement, we have reported a story about two very concerned parents who made a complaint to the bbc about the behaviour of a presenter and the
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welfare of their child. there complaint the song says it was not acted upon by the bbc and they go on to state —— the sun say with that we have gone to see evidence that supports the concerns itself with the bbc to properly investigate. here we're starting off with very serious allegations, very serious claims to now counterclaims this evening but that supports the concerns itself with the bbc to properly investigate. here we're starting off with very serious allegations, very serious claims to now counterclaims this evening but as dominic mentioned and you mentioned in your introduction the metropolitan police met with representatives from the bbc earlier on today. the metropolitan police put out a statement and there was not in immediate start of any criminal investigation they said at that stage that they would go away and look at what was discussed between detectives and bbc representatives. and also carry out their own reviews. quite an extraordinary situation here this evening where the counterclaim from
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a lawyer representing the young person at the centre of the allegations of the bbc presenter allegations of the bbc presenter allegations who is this evening disputing their mothers account of events. , . , ., , ., �* events. great summary of where we're so far. events. great summary of where we're so far- thank — events. great summary of where we're so far- thank you _ events. great summary of where we're so far. thank you very _ events. great summary of where we're so far. thank you very much. - events. great summary of where we're so far. thank you very much. helena i so far. thank you very much. helena wilkinsonjoining us from so far. thank you very much. helena wilkinson joining us from the newsroom. joining me now our legal corresponded. this does throw up so many complex legal questions, doesn't it?— many complex legal questions, doesn't it? �* ., ., ., doesn't it? and editorial ones as well. we doesn't it? and editorial ones as well- we as _ doesn't it? and editorial ones as well. we as journalist, _ doesn't it? and editorial ones as well. we as journalist, we - doesn't it? and editorial ones as well. we as journalist, we wantl doesn't it? and editorial ones as. well. we as journalist, we want to report facts, it's our bread and butter in our daily lives and the newsroom. we try to go with things we know to be true or things we can clearly explain to the audience and also explain the doubts where we have them. we have a situation here which is quite extraordinary for the reputations, careers, futures all on the line. none of the principles in this case have spoken to us directly. there is on speaking to
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the sun, one who is employed by the bbc but the bbc has a corporate duty of confidentiality to protect them and not reveal who they are. and the third, the young person or the child as the sun newspaper describes them in his instructed lawyers to put their version of events out there. except everything just feels a little bit ambiguous because simply we haven't seen the full facts. we don't know what the sun has got for that they are saying is now for the bbc to investigate. we don't know the nature of the relationship is between this young person and the mother who has spoken to the sun, clearly from this letter the young person is pushing back and saying what has been said is rubbish. what's really telling is the statement from the metropolitan police which came this afternoon, so this morning bbc management met the police, they passed on information for that we don't know exactly what they passed on, whether it was a
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dossier or literally effectively a trail of e—mails about complaints, we simply don't know what that amounts to. what scotland yard said after that was really interesting, it was they are assessing the information and establishing whether there is evidence of a criminal offence being committed. what that means is one of two things, it could means is one of two things, it could mean that this is very serious and trying to work out the best next steps in terms of how to approach that so as to best preserve the evidence. and to make the best possible evidence gathering exercise they can with a view to seeking criminal charges at some future point. for it could mean they are not quite sure what they have been told and what it amounts to. this often happens when the police and total things and they are thinking, home, is this really a crime here is this really a crime here? exactly what has gone on? were stuck between the two positions at the moment. it's making it very difficult. just
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for clarity, now this matter is in the hands of the police. is that correct? what are the possible options from here so they could police conducting their investigation?- police conducting their investigation? police conducting their investiuation? , ., ., investigation? just is a matter of riva investigation? just is a matter of privacy law. _ investigation? just is a matter of privacy law. i— investigation? just is a matter of privacy law, i think _ investigation? just is a matter of privacy law, i think this - investigation? just is a matter of privacy law, i think this is - investigation? just is a matter of privacy law, i think this is reallyl privacy law, i think this is really important, once a situation is in the hands of the police and individuals rights to privacy under uk law and the law in england and wales rather is pretty strong for them because what are courts have said is that if the police are investigating something then an individual has a right to privacy because the damage that can be done from that person being named could last a lifetime. they have that right to privacy and it's very difficult for newsrooms to report for that that's the first thing. within the police, what we know on the face of it, from what the sun is reporting we got no independent corroboration from this. if this young person was under the age of 18 when they shared or made actually
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explicit images and pass them to the bbc personality, that's on the face of it is a crime under law. it’s bbc personality, that's on the face of it is a crime under law.— of it is a crime under law. it's a crime- -- it _ of it is a crime under law. it's a crime... it wouldn't matter - of it is a crime under law. it's a. crime... it wouldn't matter what of it is a crime under law. it's a - crime... it wouldn't matter what he said about it what it? the bbc personality? know, the young person. what it it matter of his account of the facts proved... me what it it matter of his account of the facts proved. . ._ the facts proved... i've seen this come op. _ the facts proved... i've seen this come up. you — the facts proved... i've seen this come up. you can _ the facts proved... i've seen this come up, you can read _ the facts proved... i've seen this come up, you can read case - the facts proved... i've seen this come up, you can read case [awl the facts proved... i've seen this l come up, you can read case law on this, it doesn't matter if the person under 18 thinks they gave consent because they are under 18 in legal terms they are a child rather than an adult therefore they cannot give consent for those images to be made. effectively with the courts and said that is because you are perhaps creating an image of abuse or a pornographic image which could have long—lasting consequences for somebody who is not yet an adult. the law is pretty clear there. the key question of course for the police is, this is the allegation but what is the actual evidence? i
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think what they do or if you thing about how a detective would work those of the first questions. what were the first images if images were indeed exchange went with a exchange of what was the age of the individual? that's why it's very difficult for us to report for the i think many members of our audience will be feeling pretty frustrated at night to where we've got on the story. it's a legally complicated, as simple as that.— as simple as that. we're glad to have ou as simple as that. we're glad to have you here — as simple as that. we're glad to have you here to _ as simple as that. we're glad to have you here to explain - as simple as that. we're glad to have you here to explain it - as simple as that. we're glad to have you here to explain it to i as simple as that. we're glad to l have you here to explain it to us. our legal corresponded on that very complex case. thank you, dominic. stuart purvis is a former chief executive and gave us his reaction to the latest statement. it executive and gave us his reaction to the latest statement.— to the latest statement. it clearly is an extraordinary _ to the latest statement. it clearly is an extraordinary development. | to the latest statement. it clearly | is an extraordinary development. i think the one thing we can take away from all of the events of the day is that the police are going to bake further inquiries as to whether a criminal offence has occurred. they noticeably did not use the word
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investigation, which to them is a higher level, a further step down in investigative route making inquiries as to whether a criminal event has been occurred. in the light of what we've just heard in the last few minutes, that would seem to be the crucial issue. we clearly have now competing claims from the young person involved and their mother via the sun. we have the sun saying that they were shown evidence of the concerns about what had happened —— sun saying for that we never heard from the presenter himself in any form so far. it's quite difficult this early stage to draw conclusions other than this is not actually the end of the story. there may be other issues and matters arising from this. and the police are now really in the crucial days of deciding whether a crime has been committed
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or not. because of a crime has not been committed then perhaps this might be the end of the stage of the investigation of inquiry. if on the other hand it throws up some new element it may not be the end of the story. element it may not be the end of the sto . ., element it may not be the end of the sto . . ., ., , story. that we will have to see. of course this — story. that we will have to see. of course this is _ story. that we will have to see. of course this is quite _ story. that we will have to see. of course this is quite a _ story. that we will have to see. of course this is quite a difficult - course this is quite a difficult position for the bbc to bn. the bbc does not know the identity of the young person, has not spoken directly to them, they've just received this letter. the bbc has not seen any of the sun body of evidence of the dossier that the sergeant reported was headed to the corporation by the family over the weekend. bbc has not seen that. in light of this, how do you feel that the bbc has handled all this? i think it's in truth too early to make thatjudgment. i've been asset during the day and i've criticised for instance the first statement that was issued. as to whether the
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bbc has mishandled its own inquiry, i don't think anyone is in a position to know that because we don't yet know what the original complaint was. we know what the mother told the sun her side of the story was. but we do not actually seen any evidence. we're told there was information passed by the bbc to the police this afternoon and that you may be crucial. i have to say, i believed that this would be a crucial day because i had assumed that the bbc documentation would, if the mother had access to the young persons bank account reveal whether the payments had in fact been made ijy the payments had in fact been made by the presenter. i saw a fork in the road. either they have been made ijy the road. either they have been made by the presenter to the young person or they haven't. but actually, this further confuses the story, makes it more complex because we have to wonder who to believe between the young person and their mother. and young person and their mother. and of course we —
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young person and their mother. and of course we don't even have the full details of these allegations. just in terms of what happens next, obviously we must wait to hear what the police say and what the bbc inquiry says but looking at the way of course it's been decided that the presenter should not be named. your thoughts on that. i've always said that's been the right position and that's been the right position and that he was reinforced by whatjust happened. that he was reinforced by what 'ust ha ened. �* , that he was reinforced by what 'ust hauened. �* , ., ,, happened. because the whole issue must be now. _ happened. because the whole issue must be now, all— happened. because the whole issue must be now, all the _ happened. because the whole issue must be now, all the issues - happened. because the whole issue must be now, all the issues arising | must be now, all the issues arising as reported by the sun must be in a sense up in the air awaiting the police clarification if they can get to the bottom of it of whether there's been a crime or not. questions for the sun are, if for instance you were made aware of evidence by the mother, why did you not actually show it in any of your
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reporting? there has been sort of different views as to why that might be a part from why did they not actually name the presenter if they believed in a case is much as they said they did. because let's be honest, it was eight of two tradition to name names. they've not done that on this occasion. i was always slightly curious as to whether they had seen for instance bank statements, why did it not include that? some people believe they didn't wish to be, overly sensational in their coverage but clearly the sun has questions to answer arising from this statement which has been made on behalf of its as of the young person whilst in a sense the mother has given them what she says is evidence.— she says is evidence. stuart purvis former chief _ she says is evidence. stuart purvis former chief executive _ she says is evidence. stuart purvis former chief executive of - she says is evidence. stuart purvis former chief executive of itm. - she says is evidence. stuart purvis| former chief executive of itm. also spoke to a former bbc news executive, he says there are still many unanswered questions. this sto has many unanswered questions. this story has been — many unanswered questions. try 3
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story has been locked from the very beginning by a dangerous absence of fact for them at every stage that has been more questions than answers. that remains the case tonight. yes, the emphasis has shifted put up now it seems the parents may have raised with the sun —— with the sun concerns which died not directly reflect the concerns of their child. that's simply to interpret what's been asserted. at no stage in this story have we seen the full details that the sun purports to have. a former director of the sun appeared on bbc�*s world at one this afternoon and made the case that when he was editor he would expect to produce pictures, identify the accused and take the story all the way to the facts from the very beginning. he suggested that the reason the sun had not done this on this occasion is at the audience has changed its appetite and advertisers have change their
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appetite. i'm beginning to suspect the facts are not entirely clear to the facts are not entirely clear to the sun. they're not clear to the bbc either. it looks at one point for be clear once i do not be other. at the moment it's not clear to anybody. in that situation where the facts really aren't clear, a bbc news executive, how would you have handled this? i news executive, how would you have handled this?— handled this? i would have handled it with a sort _ handled this? i would have handled it with a sort of _ handled this? i would have handled it with a sort of care _ handled this? i would have handled it with a sort of care and _ handled this? i would have handled it with a sort of care and caution - it with a sort of care and caution that the bbc appears to have exercised on this occasion. when you receive a very serious allegation about a colleague you have an absolute duty to investigate that allegation you can only investigator on the basis of evidence. and the bbc appears to me to have been handicapped since may by the problem that the mother in this case have been raised concerns with the bbc was not prepared to share any further evidence with the bbc though she appears to have shared further
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evidence with the sun. in exercising its duty to its employee the bbc has faced a challenge for that in exercising its duty towards the young person who appears to have been the victim of photographs or thatis been the victim of photographs or that is at least the allegation being made, the bbc wasn't really able to execute duty fully either because as much it would've liked to investigate the investigate the facts the facts were not being made available to it. i think the bbc has been placed in a very difficult position. i think the bbc has tried to exercise its responsibilities diligently. i know the presenter has been suspended from duty. at that suspension may turn out not to be necessary, we shall see. nevertheless there is an intense amount of scrutiny into the way that the bbc is handling this. how damaging could this be? the bbc faces intense _ damaging could this be? the bbc faces intense scrutiny _ damaging could this be? the bbc faces intense scrutiny because i damaging could this be? the bbc faces intense scrutiny because it| damaging could this be? the bbc. faces intense scrutiny because it is a national broadcast funded by a licence fee which most licence
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payers are really very pleased to pat’- payers are really very pleased to pay. the bbc as a national institution depends for its survival on a reputation for integrity, reputation for excellence and a reputation for excellence and a reputation for excellence and a reputation for fair mindedness. i think it is therefore almost in the nature of british society that the bbc comes under greater scrutiny than commercial broadcasters or newspapers. that is perhaps appropriate because the bbc is after all our broadcaster. as our broadcaster i think the bbc has behaved as it should have behaved in these circumstances. it is sought to establish the facts, it has asked for detail at every point, it is taken internal steps to investigate to the best of it's ability, it is collaborated with the police in meeting today for the whilst the bbc remains under scrutiny i can see no evidence at the bbc has done wrong with him and a growing suggestion that in fact the bbc may have been the victim of an accusation which
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perhaps is not been levelled entirely fairly.— perhaps is not been levelled entirel fairl . ., �* �* , entirely fairly. former bbc news executive- _ entirely fairly. former bbc news executive. around _ entirely fairly. former bbc news executive. around the _ entirely fairly. former bbc news executive. around the world - entirely fairly. former bbc news executive. around the world and j executive. around the world and across the uk this is bbc news. we will take a look now at some of the officer is making the headlines in the uk. a second eight—year—old girl has died from injuries after a car crashed into a school in southwest london. the incident happened on thursday. the metropolitan police named it the second fatality. herfamily second fatality. her family described second fatality. herfamily described her as the light of our lives. a116 woman has been bailed until latejuly lives. a116 woman has been bailed until late july having lives. a116 woman has been bailed until latejuly having been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. every reviewing the failings of maternity care and hospitals in nottingham and set to become the largest in the uk. the chair of the inquiry is expected to announce that 1700 families will have their cases examined. dozens of babies are known to have died or suffered lifelong injuries as a
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result of poor maternity care in the city. some of it dating back more than a decade. in easyjet has cancelled 1700 flights from gatwick airport during july, august and september, the company blamed constraint airspace over europe and air traffic control difficulties. you are live with bbc news without this is the daily global. nato leaders are gathering for a two—day summit. the meeting is due to begin on tuesday. the meeting in vilnius is due to begin on tuesday, and will tackle a wide range of issues, from divisions over ukraine's possible membership of the alliance, to sweden's accession — which is currently being held up by turkey. president biden arrived in vilnius to take part a short time ago. we'll be looking at what lies ahead. the sum of proper kicks off tomorrow but today it's been characterised by frankly repertory urdu are raising the stakes. one of the key issues is sweden joining.
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the stakes. one of the key issues is swedenjoining. —— to mom. today saying he introduced a new factor into all of this, a new request saying that if the doors open to turkeyjoining the eu then the door will be open to sweden joining nato. this is because the way nato works, every country effectively has a veto about new members journey. so turkey has that power. interesting that it's been quite rapid dismissal of the saying that these are two completely different organisations to completely different processes. this is the eu and nato. i spoke to some us senators in the last hour or so, they both use the same word, disappointed. they said it was disappointing that the new variant was being introduced at the stage. we wait and see of the next couple days if there's any progress made on swedenjoining. president biden spent
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the earlier part of the day here in the uk. he was welcomed by king charles at windsor castle and took part in talks on climate change. he also met prime minister rishi sunak in downing street, with the war in ukraine high on the agenda. the president described the us—uk relationship as �*rock solid' — with rishi sunak adding that the two countries were the �*firmest allies�*. sir mark lyall grant is a former uk national security adviser. he says... well, i think it was a signal of a reaffirmation, if you like, of the transatlantic relationship in advance of the nato summit in vilnius, which both leaders are obviously on their way to this evening. it's true, they've had a lot of meetings, but this was the first meeting actually in downing street. and so it was the first chance for rishi sunak to host president biden in downing street. and therefore, it was symbolically important. but in terms of the substance, i'm sure the talks would
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have been dominated by the forthcoming nato's summit. ukraine. how much support can the west give to ukraine and tackling some of the tricky issues and divisions between nato's allies towards the conflict in ukraine. and you're quite right. we did hearfrom a spokesman for the prime minister who said that the prime minister and president biden discussed the decision by the us to supply controversial cluster bombs to ukraine. i mean, that is an instance in which the two countries find themselves diverging, perhaps in terms of approach. just explain to us why there are different views when it comes to providing ukraine with cluster bombs between the us and the uk. well, cluster bombs are ammunition which explodes in the air into lots of different bombs, if you like. and those little bombs spread out over quite a wide area on the ground and then explode.
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now, traditionally, the difficulty with this type of ordnance is that a lot of the little bombs don't explode so—called duds, and they remain on the ground. and so when the conflict is over, you get this ordnance that hasn't exploded, that can be picked up by children, by the civilian population and caused great damage. and it was that reason that britain and other countries, 123 now signed and implemented the convention on cluster munitions back in 2008, stay here with us on bbc news. more to come. we've had some sunshine today but equally wet weather, thunderstorms as well. it looks unsettled for the rest of the week with very few places escaping the showers. it's
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becoming quite windy out there at the moment. it will be windy at times. i think eventually it will feel fresher at the moment also because we've got a south—westerly breeze pushing this moister end. still muggy airfor the breeze pushing this moister end. still muggy air for the as a result of that mugging is there will be some further lively downpours from the rain in the north, and other area of heavy rain potentially thundery rain pushing and across southern areas during the night. to these all of that is where we have these all of that is where we have the most humid airfor them and uncomfortable night for sleeping here for them even further north temperatures will hold between 12 and 1a celsius with the rain settling across the far northeast of scotland in the northern isles in the morning, around that area of low pressure. it is moving or drifting northeastward. that will have been dragging its heels across southern and eastern areas, standing water, murky around the hills in morning before it clears out of the way for them even coastal fog potentially then a day is sunny spells but
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low—pressure overhead and the strength of the july sunshine we're going to get lively showers with downpours so a large amount of rain in a short space of time. gusty winds and some hail and thunder to go with it. temperatures a degree or two down so we're starting to lose the humidity a little. can't promise it dry at wimbledon on tuesday, the initial rain in the morning that could be a shower later in the day. i would like to rule it out because that low pressure so close by. still with us on wednesday. shifting a little bit further into the nazi so again drawing in more of a north or north wesley for most of the country. a fair breeze really so showers will blow through and they will be most frequent in the north and the west. i don't take anywhere will escape them for the temperature is on par with tuesday butjust losing humidity a little bit. feeling fresher but some strength and warmth in that sunshine when you see it. we should see a little bit more on thursday, pre—high—pressure moving in. it doesn't last for the next area of low pressure
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